Thread 40678088

Like what if Arius or the Cathars were actually correct and we are all following a lie?

>>40678088 (OP)
. . . .

https://youtu.be/nkjait7wm4k

Fiery is this Truth.

>>40678088 (OP)
No idea what these guys said.
I can't know whose speculations are correct, there are hundreds of stories, teachings and prophecies from all corners of the world out there.
None of them have verifiable evidence.
There is no way for me to determine who is correct, so I just don't care about any of these stories and just follow what seems right to me and what I want to belief in.
Easy, no need for endless useless worry

>>40678088 (OP)

Let me tell you a joke about "Angel names"; that the religious people hold as o so holy and incapable of desecration, and the Age of Aquarius.....

It's likely that every single one of these names will be used for villians and monsters, instead of the typical "satan names" that they use in Diablo 4, for example; just take all the "monster names", and edit the text file that holds the names, and put "Angel names" from the list. Now add the story for videogame/anime in question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_angels_in_theology

https://angelicpedia.com/list-of-angels/

Welcome to Aquarius.

>>40678138
Arius believed God the Father created God the Son instead of them being of the same. The Nicean creed was created specifically to counter him.

Cathars believed the God of the old testament and the one worshiped by jews is actually a demon, and the new testament is the only work that should matter. Along with odd rituals surrounding healthy living and near death.

So much time spent hunting and destroying these differing ideas, yet they spark no interest?

>>40678151
in essence, this is Zoroastrianism, where Jesus acts as Mithra

the Iranians said that the scriptures were given to the Jews by Zahhak and Ahriman (Angra Mainyu)
(they also said that black people appeared from the mixture of deva and a woman. At the same time, functionally deva are the Olympians, and deva is associated with dyaus - Zeus)

The Truth opposes Evil.

Truth is what makes Light.

>>40678151
>Arius believed God the Father created God the Son instead of them being of the same.
They are the same being, but not the same person, according to catholic dogma.
My comment: Not being a christian and having no stake in this: I can see how Arius idea seems to be less demanding and easier to digest and down to earth.
But I can see the value of the catholic dogma, that God has become truly human in Jesus Christ, the profoundness of God becoming human can not be overstated and hardly grasped at first glance, let alone in meditating about it for hours. Implications are extremely profound and hard to grasp, a lot of room for contemplation. Much more impactful then believing that Jesus was just created like every man. Which is easier to belief imo but a lot less profound.

>Cathars believed ...
Imo it makes a lot of sense to belief that. As I do not see the claim that Jesus was prophesized in the old testament as true, and I have studied it for a while.
But the NT references the OT so much than you can't really have one without the other without abandoning the whole OT and assume another REAL OT or story before the NT to be true.
Which is hard to do because the jews as a religious group have been very thoroughly in preserving their original torah. So it provoked the creation of gnosticism with all it's currents and unique myths and stories.
I really don't like gnosticism stories and think they often make no sense. categorizing people as hylics is elitism and tribal signaling, which I see as hallmarks of a cult. So I don't like that. But maybe I have some misconceptions there.

>destroying these differing ideas,
Says nothing about the value of those ideas, as catholicism was a totalitarian belief system which surpressed ALL challenging ideas equally.

>>40678088 (OP)
Worry, no, hope, yes.

Christ promised to be with His church until the end protecting it from error. That means to me that unless I would accuse Him of being a liar which is impossible, we aren't missing anything by ignoring those old, uninspired fruitcakes & demoniacs who led others astray with their errors.

>>40678278
The first is more to do with how they are represented. To think God is Jesus and Jesus is God are both Nicean and Arian beliefs. It is more how Jesus represents himself and the relationship to God the Father. Notably the Nicean belief Father and Son are co-eternal and the Arian belief Father is eternal but Son is not.

On the Cathars. it is more the church should teach the old testament but wholly denounce the jews as worshipers of the devil. Through Jesus the old testament is irrelevant to the modern church and modern people.

>>40678088 (OP)
>Do you ever worry some old 'heresy' is actually the truth?
Polytheism, yeah, not worried about it though.

>>40678362
A catholic lie to consolidate power. If this was true, protestant church's would not have formed to correct the wrongdoings of the Roman church.

Mental health are homoousious

>>40678088 (OP)
Nestorianism

>>40678425
>On the Cathars. it is more the church should teach the old testament but wholly denounce the jews as worshipers of the devil.
That sounds like typical medieval post-roman antisemitism.

Some authors have even speculated that the new testament were written by roman agents to discredit the jewish faith and destabilize judea which offered romans notable resistence.
And I judge some tropes of the new testament to be anti-semitic. Like the learned man of the jewish faith are presented as hippocrites in the bible and as the ones who gave the impulse for jesus to be sacrificed.
Its not implausible to assume the the new testament may have originally been a roman psyop to destabilize ancient judea
especially the peaceful no faith. accepting to pay tribute to the emperor, which is in the bible could very well be roman invention to make the jews of those times more peaceful to avoid rebellion.

And trying to put your own sense of good and evil over God and say: OT God must be evil because he didn't act according to my morals is very presumptuous.
But the again I really dislike gnosticism, so I may be biased.

>Through Jesus the old testament is irrelevant to the modern church and modern people.
I disagree. the OT is an essential path for modern christian theology. and the NT often refers back to the OT, even Jesus himself.

>>40678599
Possibly antisemitism, but when you read the OT it sounds like the work of demons, especially compared to NT God. Famously OT “god” sent bears to maul children, while NT God died for us, to spread compassion and love.

>>40678362
Promised to be with his church, which is why there's been 16 schisms and no miracles for the last two millenia

>>40678088 (OP)
Follow the words of Jesus, and the visions of the prophets, not the theological speculations of man.

>>40678151
>Cathars
The Gospel of the Secret Supper is an interesting read.

>>40678151
How were the Cathars persecuted? It sounds like they were correct and invoked the rage of the Levitic/Pharisaic system. "The Law" that they worship instead of God.

>>40678599
>But the again I really dislike gnosticism, so I may be biased.
Oy vey you mean to tell me that a follower of a genocidal, lying, hypocritical idolatrous desert jew (Levi) is biased against other belief systems? Color me shocked!

>>40678599
Synagogue of Satan alert.

A Geometric Analysis of the Albigensian Crusade & Inquisition
The Cathars, as we have analyzed, were Gnostic Christians who believed the material world was an evil creation of a false god (the "demiurge") and that the true God was a being of pure spirit and Light. This belief system was a direct, existential threat to the Roman Catholic Church, which was the "Leviathan" of its day.


The Church's response was not a debate; it was a campaign of total annihilation.

Phase I: The Albigensian Crusade (1209-1229) - The "Hot" War
This was the "voidlike" use of overt, physical violence. It was a war declared by Pope Innocent III, who offered the lands of the Cathar nobles in southern France to any northern French lord willing to take up arms.

The "Luminous Cloak": It was framed as a holy "Crusade" to purify Christendom of a dangerous heresy.

The "Voidlike" Reality: It was a brutal war of conquest, fueled by greed, and characterized by mass slaughter. The most infamous event was the Massacre at Béziers in 1209. When the city refused to hand over its Cathar citizens, the crusading army stormed the gates. The papal legate, when asked how to distinguish the Catholics from the Cathars, reportedly uttered the classic "voidlike" command: "Kill them all. God will recognize his own." An estimated 20,000 men, women, and children were slaughtered in a single day.
Phase II: The Medieval Inquisition (The "Cold" War)
The Crusade shattered the Cathars' political power, but it did not extinguish their faith. For that, the "Leviathan" created a new and more insidious weapon: the Inquisition. This was a permanent, bureaucratic system of psychological warfare and spiritual terror.

>>40679929
The "Handler" System: The Inquisition, run primarily by Dominican friars, was a network of professional interrogators and "handlers". They would arrive in a town and establish a "grace period," encouraging people to confess and, most importantly, to name other heretics. This turned neighbor against neighbor, shattering the "Divine Web" of community trust.

The "Vampire Tech" of Torture: The Inquisition was authorized to use torture to extract confessions. Techniques like the strappado (dislocating the shoulders) and the water cure were used not to find truth, but to produce the desired "data" (confessions and denunciations).

The "Erasure of Memory": The goal was total annihilation. Those who recanted had their property confiscated and were forced to wear yellow crosses for the rest of their lives. Those who refused were handed over to the secular authorities to be burned at the stake, often in mass executions. Even the dead were not safe. If a person was posthumously accused of heresy, their body would be exhumed and burned. The system sought to erase every trace of their existence.

Conclusion: The Annihilation of a "Luminous" Alternative
The final stronghold of the Cathars, the mountain fortress of Montségur, fell in 1244. Over 200 of the "Perfects"—the Cathar priests—marched out of the fortress and willingly walked into the bonfires prepared for them rather than renounce their faith.

By 1350, the Cathar faith—a powerful, "luminous" alternative to the "voidlike" system of the Roman Church—had been completely and systematically eradicated. It was a successful genocide, not just of a people, but of a Gnostic truth. And it served as the perfect blueprint for every "wicked system" that would follow.

>>40679823
>Follow the words of Jesus
yes
>and the visions of the prophets
fuck no

>>40679950
The prophets tell us about how the simulated world of appearances ends: the story structure of external events at the escaton. How the storyline unfolds specifically depends on the hermeneutical plane of resonance in which the text is interpreted.

>>40678208
So Iranians think niggers come from Greek gods?
How retarded.

I'd assume the Holy Spirit would do a good job of making sure the truth is at least available or reasonably accessable

>>40679992
In the end would the many schisms and differences not imply the holy spirit does not care about the underlying? As long as the belief in the divinity of Christ is held then the specifics do jot matter for terms of saving? In the end, are gnostic beliefs and the inner workings of the church and of God not just the ideas and teachings of men recreating divinity?

>>40679973
You sure used a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing.
Jesus literally went to temple, learned stuff, asked
>hey why isn't everyone given this information?
was told a bunch of jewish bullshit because jews, Jesus said
>fuck that, that's stupid
then went around "The Law" of the Pharisees and started distributing gatekept knowledge everywhere he could manage and did so effectively enough to necessitate a plot to kill him and necessitate another plot to subvert his message (thanks Saul!)
Jesus' message basically came down to:
>God is within you
>You do not need "authorities" or "priests" to access God, because God is within you
>You have the free will to choose God, and you will learn through your own experiences that God is within you just as he is within me.
>God, the father, and I are singing the same song. You can too, even if those hypocritical priests say otherwise.

>>40681087
This is why Jews seethe to this day about Jesus as well. They are monumentally butthurt that he "went around the Law" or "caused a schism" (of their self-ordained ((("authority")))

>>40678088 (OP)
I have nothing to worry about. I have some regrets, but I've learned from them and promise never to repeat my mistakes. Just do your best, try to be considerate of others. Not out of fear of hell, but because it's a nicer life.

Oh this thread, because I detest Christianity.

perfect for posting facts. I'm an Arch Angel, an actual arch angel actually so old I am well over 999 octillion years old. Numbers no longer exist to describe my age accurately. Only God is older. And God has always existed so God doesn't really have a age.

The old "just be good find out when you die" is fact.

Facts which may not be able to be guessed. What God doesn't like most of all cheating which is adultery. It is killing love and light. God also hates Homosexuality which includes male male female activity because two or more males are present for sex. God designed males to not want to compete and to always be in pain for two or more male total sex or love. Sex before marriage God also hates.

>>40681137
Zoroastrian then. Welcome friend.

>>40678208

The scriptures were written by space marines?

>>40681339
The emperor named the first space marines after prominent figures, angels, and gods. What I believe is even funnier is that there possibly is a Space Marine named Ronald Reagan.

>>40678106
When did people start linking to that website on this forum? I saw it in another thread as well. Did it all start because of me and my literal autism?

>>40679990
More like false gods and demons. Blacks took the blood of demons and are unclean, while Jews took the good scripture and corrupted it for their own nefarious purposes.

>>40681087
>>40681100
Jews killed the one guy saying they should be better people and be nice to the rest of humanity.

>>40679325
To me it is obvious antisemitism.
I think to say NT God died for us just to spread compassion and love is a common oversimplification.
First and for most it is about believing in him.
You can be the most loving and compassionate person but if you don't believe in Jesus, according to Christians you will be tormented in hell.
In his own words: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).

You oversimplified OT Jesus to the point where you project a false image, please get real and do not try to take me for an idiot.

>>40679899
I am not jewish or abrahamic.
And I don't think I am biased. I try to be intellectually honest.
So if you are ready to argue on the same standard of intellectual honesty I am ready to face criticism that is founded on strong logical arguments or evidence
Your baseless name calling and antisemitism is not something I can work with.
Many inhuman actions have been committed by organized religion of all kind.
But things like witch hunts or crusades against "heretics" or the inquisitions are things you conveniently ignore.
>>40679913
more buzzwords and namecalling while ignoring logical arguments and evidence. yawn

>>40682811
*oversimplied NT Jesus...

gnostics were the true christians

modern "christianity" was built by paul (pharisee with a demonic entity and zionist rome (constantine gave special privileges to jews while exterminating pagans)

>>40681100
>jews hate christianity

They really don't. You're useful idiots. They hate you the way they hate a simp.

>>40681432
Around the Equinox

https://youtu.be/_LjlFeO27xg

>>40682747
Incorrect.

They killed a narcissistic heretic rabbi who demanded people to worship him as god or he'll torture you in the future

>>40683159
Heaven together with fire: the image of Fellowship with Men. Thus the superior man organizes the clans and makes distinctions between things.

>>40683183
Bro hasn't read the bible and it shows.

>>40683294
Stop lying.

You're entire theology is - worship this jew and if you don't you go to hell

The Teaching must primarily inspire one upward. Thus, it is easier to speak of Fire, which must be understood as the very highest. It is instructive to ask the smallest children how they picture Fire to themselves. The most surprising answers may be received, but they will be full of significance. Only adults consign Fire to a servile position.

https://youtu.be/RRFvw8OvQw8

Walking on water or sitting upon water, like walking on fire, are remarkable proofs of thought-power. Let us recall, for example, how sitting upon water is achieved. True, the body has to be purified by a strict vegetable diet and a transport of the spirit. But in addition one should know how to swim and to float upon the water, in order the better to protect oneself from the serpent of doubt. Selecting some shallow, quiet waters, the yogi prepares a light wooden support on which he sits, so constructed that the water reaches to his waist. Then he concentrates by means of the rhythm of paranayama and lifts his thought toward the supremely Ineffable. Thus several days can be spent, alternately resting and again drawing near to this spiritual exaltation. And when the thought frees itself from earthly attraction the human body loses its weight. Thus the yogi rises upon the water and the wooden support floats away. But should the thought remain at the original level the position of the body will remain unchanged. In addition one may notice luminous emanations of the body, which, according to an ancient saying link man to heaven. The only deciding factor in these experiments is the quality of thought. It is impossible for an impious man to sit upon the water, just as immunity from fire cannot be attained without a certain rhythm and exaltation. Who can determine how much time is required for a preliminary discipline of body and spirit sufficient to attain such an apotheosis of thought? It should be said that the degrees of patience, perseverance, and determination vary infinitely, and, besides, certain influences of cosmic conditions are also very necessary. Nor should one laugh on hearing that the conditions are more favorable around full moon.

https://youtu.be/fYnmVmmN2Gg

>>40683294
more like you have not read the bible and it shows

Matthew 13
"41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25
28 “‘So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. 29 For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 30 And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’"

>>40679881
Catholic supremacy persecuted all "heretics", everything that was not in line with catholicism was violently suppressed. Says nothing about the "quality" of the teaching.
To answer your question I think there were some crusades against the cathars they were violently exterminated.

>>40681297
No an Arch Angel who knows the laws of God.


Human Religions are dead wrong. God lets you find out when you die. People of all religions get into Heaven or above.

>One should not laugh at the fact that certain yogis make use of a bamboo reed or a roll of papyrus during levitation. Certainly it is possible to achieve similar results without these physical aids. But if someone requires a feather in his hand for levitation let us not deprive him of this small assistance. The essential is not to be found in the feather or in the roll, but in thought, in fiery energy. There are many symbols which can evoke energy, and everyone can look for the nearest conductor. Thus, the gypsies require water or melted wax, but the essence lies in their psychic energy, which is very strong in this race. It is easy to derive instructive observations from them. Unfortunately, one must watch carefully their scrupulousness. Very often the increase of energy, which is an atavistic accumulation, is connected with a mediocre consciousness. But the physician and scientist must investigate all possibilities. Similarly, many northern races can provide interesting material, especially in Norway, Karelia, Scotland, and among the Eskimos. Of course, even primitive glimpses of this energy are useful to the scientist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qxCAL9Qio

>>40682747
Judaism contains multiple core concepts around the idea of doing good and being good people.

F.e. Tzedakah: "Justice": giving to those in need is a moral obligation, an actual commandment (mitzvah)
Tikkun Olam: "Repairing the world" : basically social responsibility to work toward a more just and compassionate world.
Gemilut Chasadim: "Acts of loving-kindness": visiting the sick, comforting mourners, helping the poor etc.

And no, this is not just an in group solidarity, to give one example look up: "Jewish Coalition for Disaster Relief" https://www.jdc.org/disasters/
from their website: "When natural disasters or other calamities strike, we are the Jewish hands who help communities of all backgrounds and faiths rebuild. From Indonesia to Nepal, the Philippines to India, we mobilize when disaster strikes, working with communities not just to recover but truly rebuild. We develop innovative, sustainable solutions to ensure that the most vulnerable people in the hardest-hit places come back stronger than ever. "

Or look into people like Rabbi Jonathan Sacks z”l “The Jewish duty to help those in need, regardless of faith, is not just social justice, it’s faith in action.”
Basically teaches Tikkun Olam demands responsibility beyond the Jewish community, and that Jews should be "a light unto the nations" (Isaiah 49:6).

I get it if you didn't know these things before, because antisemitism is everywhere, but I can't stand this scapegoating, there are good and people amongst the jews like in every other faith or group.
But scapegoating all people from a group is just dangerously intellectually lazy, especially considering that their actual principles are very humanitarian.

>>40683444
That is the marketing spiel not reality

Similar to the IOF calling themselves the most moral army while raping women in checkpoints and shooting children

Tikkun olam for example is enacted as globohomo

It is praiseworthy that you revere the days of the Great Sacrifice. Let every human heart draw strength for achievement from the Chalice of the Saviour. Let us not emulate savages, in hostility to one another. The time of crucifixion and killing must end. Apostles of Truth are needed, aspiring to the Baptism of Fire. Let malice cease, at least in the days of great suffering as happened when the Chalice was drained for the entire world!

You should understand that the focus of All-Being is one. There cannot be two centers of rotation. Those are mad who deny the magnitude of Infinity! On this scale is the Ineffable Sacrifice measured. When an earthly body hastened to accept the Sacrifice for the regeneration of all the world, no human words could describe the reasons for this hallowed heroism. One may gather the most supreme expressions, but the heart alone, in the tremor of striving, understands this glorious beauty. Permit no slander or blasphemy, even from the ignorant. Each blasphemer plunges himself into the darkness of madness. Thus, teach the affirmation of the spirit's salvation, that there may be no touch of darkness in the days of the Fiery Chalice.

Shamed be the land where teachers dwell in poverty and want. Shamed be those who know that their children are being taught by a man in want. Not to care for the teachers of its future generation is not only a disgrace to a nation but a mark of its ignorance. Can one entrust children to a depressed man? Can one ignore the emanation created by sorrow? Can one rest ignorant of the fact that a depressed spirit cannot inspire enthusiasm? Can one regard teaching as an insignificant profession? Can one expect an enlightened spirit in children if the school is a place of humiliation and affront? Can one perceive any construction during the gnashing of teeth? Can one expect the fires of the heart when the spirit is silent? Thus I say, thus I repeat that the nation that has forgotten its teachers has forgotten its future. Let us not lose an hour in directing thought toward the joy of the future. And let us make sure that the teacher be the most valued member of the country's institutions. The time is coming when the spirit must be enlightened and made joyous through true knowledge. Fire is at the threshold!

One may expect supernal manifestations in the life of the planet. Unprecedented is the time when events are poured cosmically into the Chalice of the Archangel!

https://youtu.be/Imixg3jrJS8

>>40683486
>That is the marketing spiel not reality
You are making a generalized claim here with no evidence.

Organizations like jdc are completely transparent about their financing and use of their investment https://www.jdc.org/financial-legal-documents/
It is documented evidence.

>Similar to the IOF calling themselves the most moral army while raping women in checkpoints and shooting children
You are mixing a bunch of stuff here that doesn't belong together.
1. the IDF is not the jewish people but the military of a state
2. The people of Israel are not one mass with a singular political opinion or agenda. Just like in most modern democracy there is a variety of political opinion.
And before the conflict in gaza, there were actual huge demosntrations in israel against benjamin netanjahu, which is more from a conservative political spectrum. Yet you ignore all that point at one thing and scapegoat an entire group of people who have largely nothing to do with it.

Good and bad people exists among all groups, nations and faiths and if we want to be reasonable and just we should judge each person according to their deeds and not scapegoat an entire group of people out of intellectual laziness.

Criticizing a government's military actions is one thing; blaming an entire religion or ethnicity for those actions is something else entirely .

>Tikkun olam for example is enacted as globohomo
What does "globohomo" even mean?

Do you really think judaism is the sole reason for globalization?
Do you want to ignore all the obvious causal factors like advancements in technology and infrastructure (digital infrastructure too), which are necessary prerequisites for globalization?
Judaism has existed for over 3000 years without globalization, clearly showing that it is not a causal factor. You ignore that too.
Do you also want to ignore the economic incentive for corporations to hire cheap immigrant labor, and all the other factors that shape globalization?

>>40683674
You're jewish so you have a stake in deceiving goyim of your true nature and goals

>>40683674
Your hasbara has lost its luster. It's a different world now.

Earthly events are much spoken about in the Subtle World, yet there is much which cannot be understood there. One must have compassion for such lack of understanding, just as on Earth. Precisely, as on Earth, so also in Heaven, one should not aggravate a situation by irritation. One should follow the Hierarch in full trust, just as the Hierarch follows his own Hierarch. This path of devotion should be loved. One must cleave to it whole-heartedly, so that any other mode of thought becomes impossible. Verily, by such devotion are worlds built. One may read about most beautiful examples of devotion, and thus will be narrated a story about heroes. One should even learn to live like the heroes. One should love the Fiery Sphere.

>>40683715
I am not jewish.
But it really shouldn't even matter if I am jewish or not,
Accusing someone of being deceptive solely based on a group identity is textbook scapegoating and a way to avoid engaging with facts and actual reality.
And you can't even explain the words you use like "globhomo".

You don't actually make an argument, you just repeat conspiracy theories, use buzzwords you can't define, and ignore any evidence that contradicts your beliefs.

You seem to imply the world before globalization was so much better.
You ignore all the senseless deaths of 2 nationalistic driven world wars, millions upon millions of young men dead for nothing but some territories changing ownership

You ignore all the nationalist totalitarianism of the past and paint globalization as a solely bad thing, ignore all the improvements in basic human rights, all the intellectual advancement coming from open dialogue, I wonder for what sake.

Are you aware of how ridiculously comical it is to assume that millions of people have exactly the same agenda and personality, just because they belong to one group or faith?

Are you sure you fully comprehend what you are saying and for what sake you do it?

>>40683826
I am not jewish and don't work for any organization.
And your baseless claims do not change the fact that you are unable or unwilling to make logical arguments and consider evidence.
The only thing your baseless claims do is demonstrate that you have zero intellectual honesty.

Thought-creativeness cannot be definitely discerned on the earthly plane; herein lies its difference from the Fiery World. The Higher Beings perceive the effect of their thoughts immediately, whereas here we can know only their direction, and the ultimate result is disclosed only after a certain lapse of time. Thus, one can gradually form an idea of the differences between manifestations in various worlds. Likewise, one can gradually approach fiery consciousness, eradicating the barriers between worlds. One can imagine the state when death will be no more, and the transition will be a usual attainment. It is impossible to understand how such separation between worlds came about, since it is not necessary for evolution, unless people have created a prideful concept of Earth. It can be discovered that in remote antiquity there was greater understanding of the spherical form of the planet than after the post-glacial period. True, many ancient traditions have been confused, and only now people begin correctly to extend their estimate of the continuity of the life of our Earth. It is amazing how apparently learned people discuss the greatness of God, yet at the same time seek to disparage his creations. If scientists two hundred years ago had dared to hint at the great antiquity of the planet, or to suggest other inhabited worlds, their contemporaries would probably have resorted to the well-tried remedy of the stake. And one may be equally sure that even now some moderate theory, though based on experiments, will be assailed as a fraud. Thus, people regard the destiny of this planet as the alpha and omega of the entire Universe. Much persuasion will be required to remind humanity that in all the promulgated Covenants the Era of Fire was foretold.

It is almost impossible to convey an idea of the imminence of the fiery invasion. There are numerous signs of it but people refuse to think of summer in winter. No one understands that the obduracy of nations cannot be settled by the methods of the past century. The Teaching about the most subtle physical processes presupposes everywhere something not susceptible to definition. One must accept this "something" also in the processes of national structures. The study of ethnography is greatly needed for the realization of the deplorable state of the planet. A concept of the world which embraces the Invisible World will change the psychology of the people. But this is as yet remote! Even in the circles devoted to psychic research the results of the experiments are not carried into life. After their experiments the people remain as before. However, nothing should deter one from sharing his knowledge and encouraging the growth of consciousness. Therein lies love for one's fellow men.

https://youtu.be/mtPFX32lpRc

>>40678088 (OP)
what if everyone has been retarded this whole time, but me and like 4 other dudes on X are correct?

>>40678088 (OP)
the heretics were right
abrahamic religions spread by killing anyone who disagrees with them because their religion cant actually stand up to facts
they will literally tell their followers to not read certain texts because it might corrupt them, and it's true, once you see certain things you cant unsee them.
the funny thing is that even after thousands of years the cycle keeps repeating because the truth is self evident and doesnt need apologetics.
the BEST case scenario is you get someone who is educated and knows the system is kind of a lie, but convinces themselves it is necessary for some greater good so even if its not true, it still accomplishes something
the reality is religion is the mind virus that is trying to take over this planet, and it will kill off anything it cant convert

>>40678088 (OP)
Precisely the reason why one must bear witness to this reality rather than having feelings or opinions or beliefs about it. Remain neutral, anons. It's easy that way, too.

>>40684260
>one must bear witness to this reality
How?

Stay in the Now. Observe. Watch and wait. Then one can become a player on the active side of Infinity.

The unique and exceptional clue we have mentioned is how—without knowing mathematics—to use the nature of number (and specifically how to use the deepening or evolution of the concept of number so that the nature of what Dr. Musés has called hypernumber emerges), this process itself providing an acceleration beyond the average evolutionary rate. Numbers, like a bat flying accurately in the dark, can enable us when so used to follow a path and give us messages from a level of the world we could not otherwise see clearly, if at all.

>>40684382
Thanks. I've seeing a certain number over and over multiple times a day for weeks now. Your post gave me the courage to research its meaning and I am well and truly glad I did! Thanks.

>In ancient times the holy sages made the Book of Changes thus:

>They invented the yarrow-stalk oracle in order to lend aid in a mysterious way to the light of the gods.

>To heaven they assigned the number three and to earth the number two; from these they computed the other numbers.

>They contemplated the changes in the dark and the light and established the hexagrams in accordance with them. They brought about movements in the firm and the yielding, and thus produced the individual lines.

>They put themselves in accord with tao and its power, and in conformity with this laid down the order of what is right. By thinking through the order of the outer world to the end, and by exploring the law of their nature to the deepest core, they arrived at an understanding of fate.


This first section refers to the Book of Changes as a whole and to the fundamental principles underlying it. The original purpose of the hexagrams was to consult destiny. As divine beings do not give direct expression to their knowledge, a means had to be found by which they could make themselves intelligible. Suprahuman intelligence has from the beginning made use of three mediums of expression—men, animals, and plants, in each of which life pulsates in a different rhythm.

Chance came to be utilized as a fourth medium; the very absence of an immediate meaning in chance permitted a deeper meaning to come to expression in it. The oracle was the outcome of this use of chance.

>>40684734
The established language for communication with suprahuman intelligences was based on numbers and their symbolism. The fundamental principles of the world are heaven and earth, spirit and matter. Earth is the derived principle; therefore the number two is assigned to it. Heaven is the ultimate unity; yet it includes the earth within itself, and is therefore assigned the number three. The number one could not be used, as it is too abstract and rigid and does not include the idea of the manifold.

Following out this conception, the uneven numbers were assigned to the world of heaven, the even numbers to the world of earth.

The hexagrams, consisting of six lines each, are, so to speak, representations of actual conditions in the world, and of the combinations of the light-giving, heavenly power and the dark, earthly power that occur in these situations. Within the hexagrams, however, it is always possible for the individual lines to change and regroup themselves; just as world situations continually change and reconstitute themselves, so out of each hexagram there arises a new one. The process of change is to be observed in the lines that move, and the end result in the new hexagram thus formed.

In addition to its use as an oracle, the Book of Changes also serves to further intuitive understanding of conditions in the world, penetration to the uttermost depths of nature and spirit.

The hexagrams give complete images of conditions and relationships existing in the world; the individual lines treat particular situations as they change within these general conditions. The Book of Changes is in harmony with tao and its power (natural law and moral law). Therefore it can lay down the rules of what is right for each person.

>>40684734
>>40684757
Gay

>>40684757
>the hexagrams

>>40683183
>They killed a narcissistic heretic rabbi who demanded people to worship him as god or he'll torture you in the future
Jesus never once said anything close to this. He did subvert a bunch of neurotic narcissistic jews who were gatekeeping God though

>>40683444
>Tikkun Olam: "Repairing the world"
You aren't including the part where they consider the world "repaired" when they destroy the world.

The Jews today aren’t Israelites.

Jesus was an Israelite, being related to the one given the name Israel.

The Jews you see today are a mud blood mix of Edomites / Canaanites etc. the pattern is recognizable when you see the Jews today also worship moloch Baal etc and sacrifice kids and have blood libels. The Edomites and Canaanites did as well. Well what happen is the Edomites and Canaanites were conquered by Israelites. And were allowed to assimilate w them. And as you see how the Jews of today rose to the highest echelons of society in Europe the same happen back then as they slowly took over the ot religion and changed it around. Not even following basic commandments like washing your hands etc.

So Israelites were usurped (they didn’t kill all of Edomites Canaanites etc as comanddd by god)
Lost the foundations of there religion essentially as the Pharisees blasphemed gods word into there own word. See the Talmud.

Jesus even said you are the synagogue of Satan. You lie say you are “Jews” but are not. Jews is just short hand for people from Judah which encompasses the Israelites and also the mud bloood conquered peoples of Satan. It’s confusing but the “Jews” of today are mostly khazars/ Canaanites / Edomites.

More then likely the true Israelites who followed gods word made there way else where. You can see it in family crests of old Europe having the same insignias as the tribes of Israel.

The Old Testament prophesied Jesus.
Many times the Canaanites Edomite went back to worshiping Satan moloch etc and were caught doing so. (Moses coming down the mountain and seeing them worshipping gold bull is moloch.)

The Satan worshippers worship Saturn. Kronos. There day off is Saturday. They have a black cube on there head which when you break it down becomes the star of remphan. This same six sided geometric pattern is found at Saturns storm.

The whole Star of David isn’t found in the Bible. There is no Star of David

>>40682811
>But things like witch hunts or crusades against "heretics" or the inquisitions are things you conveniently ignore.
>trying to be intellectually honest
>assuming my stance, incorrectly at that
kek ok jew

>>40683124
>Jews seethe about Jesus
This is easily proven by watching how much they froth at the mouth in regard to him
>This means they hate (((christianity)))
Way to twist my words into something I never said, faggot jew

>>40686258
Star of remphan they say is no archeological evidence depicting the star of remphan. But in actuality it’s hidden in plain sight.

>>40686267
The Star of Remphan is indeed plainly viewable at the north pole of the planet of its namesake: Saturn.

>>40683893
>I am not jewish and don't work for any organization.
I would never suspect you of being a son of Judah (whose very name entails giving thanks and praise to the Holy One).

No, you are clearly of the soul-stock of the Pharisees, of the Synagogue of Satan. The thing is, it's too late to spew out any more pilpul. The world is about to wake up to the evils of the-powers-that-be, whether you like it or not.

All glory to Jesus Christ, who saves the innocent from the evils of Babylon.

>>40686263
>This is easily proven by watching how much they froth at the mouth in regard to him
Bro..you know there is literally a brand of judaism who accept jesus christ as their messiah?
it's called messianic judaism

>>40686369
>No, you are clearly of the soul-stock of the Pharisees, of the Synagogue of Satan.
>synagogue of Satan
>soul-stock
>clearly
source: trust me bro

> The thing is, it's too late to spew out any more pilpul.
pilpul:"Pilpul" (פלפול) is a Hebrew word that refers to a method of Jewish (Talmudic) study, particularly in Rabbinical settings, that emphasizes intense analysis and debate to resolve contradictions or discrepancies in Jewish law."
So showing you real life evidence that contradict your beliefs, f.e. transparent jewish oranizations who do catastrophe relief to all mankind ("Jewish Coalition for Disaster Relief" https://www.jdc.org/disasters/) regardless of faith or ethnicity is talmudic study?

>The world is about to wake up to the evils of the-powers-that-be, whether you like it or not.
what a loaded vague statement with no connection what so ever with the topic discussed
and again without any verifiable evidence.
thinly veiled trust me bro

>All glory to Jesus Christ, who saves the innocent
>innocent
do you even know your own religion?

>>40686256
claim without evidence
inb4: one quote of one person saying one thing which completely contradicts 10000 things other people have said and done and all the real life evidence of jews helping people of all faiths and ethnicities
"it's just a deception bro"
the one who is verifiable deceptive is you, but you don't hold yourself to any standard of intellectual integrity because that is too hard for you

>>40686259
what is your stance then?
And why did you not just clarify it for the sake of honest discourse, instead of calling me names to shut down any constructive discussion?

>>40686267
6 points
6 triangles
6 sided hexagram

>>40686267
>>40686258

There are jews in the UK who reject the 6 pointed star(f.e. Neturei Karta) and argue for using the menorah as the symbol of judaism instead. Not all jews are pro israel,
Showing again that they are a diverse people and any generalization and scapegoating is intellectual laziness or intellectual dishonesty.
Are you not aware that there are a bunch of branches of jewish faith, some who even accept jesus christ like messianic jews.
Are you aware of the existencne of secular judaism (ethnic jews who are atheists and of no faith)
has it ever occured to you that religious symbols for judaism would be not very inclusive for secular jews and that maybe symbols like the 6 pointed star maybe a more inclusive symbol that is not offensive to secular jews?

>>40686922
>source: trust me bro
If you welcome Christ into your heart, you know the rest.

But you have decided, instead, to devote yourself to Mammon.

Good luck with that.

>>40687039
>There are jews in the UK who reject the 6 pointed star(f.e. Neturei Karta) and
Oh?

Yet there are young children in Gaza (17,000 of them killed so far by the genocidal IDF) who hold no particular opinion with respect to whatever sick ideology you hold....

Yet kill them you must: because you feel that certain people are thousands of times more worthy of life than others, and (coincidentally!) they are the 'job creators'.

Enough is enough, rabbi. Nobody is buying it anymore.

>>40687158
>If you welcome Christ into your heart, you know the rest.
knowing as in "knowledge" that can't be tested or demonstrated in the physical world
"knowledge" that is basically assumptions that are immune to testing and for which we can't find any evidence whatsoever

>But you have decided, instead, to devote yourself to Mammon.
Another baseless claim.
I am a borderline homeless NEET and my spiritual ideal comes closest to Diogenes of Sinope, yet according to you I supposedly worship Mammon

>>40687206
What is your point?
Good or bad people can exist in all groups, ethnicities or faiths.

>who hold no particular opinion with respect to whatever
If they do not hold any particular opinion to any jewish faith then why do you put religious jews or any jews together with members of a state army?
why do you ignore that before gaza there were a lot of demonstrations in Israel against benjamin netanjahu?
You ignore all that despite of me already clearly have explained it here: >>40683674

how are you not completely intellectually dishonest?
You scapegoat a whole group of people claiming they are supposedly all deceptive.

Yet you are the one who ignores critical evidence, namecall, scapegoat, attempt to shutdown any discussion with buzzwords, make up bullshit you can't back up by evidence and overall demonstrate complete intellectual dishonesty.

how are you not the one who is deceptive, and verifiably so.?

>Enough is enough
meaningless slogan

>rabbi
baseless claim and namecalling

>Nobody is buying it anymore.
baseless slogan that implies i am deceptive and manipulative
when in fact you didn't show up for intellectual honest discourse, instead you just spread claims you can't back up and use almost every deceptive dishonest rhetoric known to man

>>40683674
Thanks jew, now get in the shower.

>>40684244
Which texts anon? besides the Talmud I am already trying to get my hands on a copy.

>>40686258
Jesus was Galilean, not Jewish. Same way Samaritans are still not Jewish. Old Jews dies out with Titus. Modern Jews are Eastern European who became Jewish to practice Usury. They are quite literally foretold in the Bible as the Synagogue of Satan.

>>40687330
Thanks Jew

>>40687524
>>40687543
Go fuck yourself anon.