Thread 40762481

Welcome. The purpose of this general is to show you how to use your own wonderful human imagination to achieve your every desire.

The world and all within it is man’s conditioned consciousness objectified. Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world. So it is to consciousness that we must turn if we would discover the secret of creation. Knowledge of the law of consciousness and the method of operating this law will enable you to accomplish all you desire in life.

Your assumptions right now decide how long that will take for you.

The Main Concepts:
> Imagination creates Reality
> Assumptions harden into fact
> Consciousness is the only Reality
> Feeling is the Secret
> Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
> You are the Operant Power
> There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
> Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (Time is an Illusion)

> Can I manifest ___?
Yes! Creation is finished.

> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
pastebin.com/yXqanLu6

> The Simple Technique
https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms

> Who is Neville Goddard?
Neville was a mystic who taught the Bible as a parable of the human psyche — a great psychological drama — and not a record of historical events.

Recommendations for beginners:
> How to manifest your desires (Core 5 Lessons & Radio Talks)
mega.nz/folder/V8ESkKzC#bHIFV4BxgHk7ksf6Pwq_-Q

> Neville's Feeling is the Secret
files.catbox.moe/rrsh2g.pdf
files.catbox.moe/wwq24r.epub
>> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM [Embed]

>> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/_UoGV6LBwds [Embed]

—/ Extra resources /—
>Master Index
pastebin.com/Ne1Tms8S

> Universal Line
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGq
https://files.catbox.moe/fxv61u.pdf

> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg

>Last Thread
>>40725402

>>40762481 (OP)
I am having a worse depression episode than the typical today but i still try to remain optimistic regarding my future, financially speaking, as it's my biggest worry in life

>>40762481 (OP)
The woman's cat hasn't returned yet, and we have no clue where he is. But I feel like we're close to finding him somehow. I have faith he's okay and will return to his owner! If anyone has any success stories about this kind of situation with LoA, or any advice, I'd be happy to hear it.

i manifested having sex with this girl i like, i mean we already had something going on but after visualizing her having sex with me, men her mood changed a lot, she was a freak, she took me to this motel near her house, gave me a bj, she was on fire, and that never happened before

I dunno if I believe this stuff anymore. All my thoughts are positive about something.

>>40762632
the cat's dead.
>>40762595
depression makes you only manifest horrors that destroy you more
>>40763053
sure, bro
>>40763211
why would you not believe thinking of something makes it real? maybe add "sex magick" and eat your own cum.

>>40763318
Doing semen retention.

I am making a new fansly and only fans account and purchasing dozens of custom videos on these websites all from real non AI women.
I am spending tens of thousands of USA dollars on only fans.
I am spending tens of thousands of USA dollars on fansly.

I am having multiple real non AI women on only fans each send me dozens of custom videos in my dms. I am paying each real non AI woman thousands of USA dollars each.

I am having multiple real and non AI women on fansly each send me dozens of custom videos in my dms. I am paying each real and non AI woman thousands of USA usa dollars each.

All of this is happening after today and within the next year. All of this is happening in real life while I am awake in this universe timeline and worldline.

>>40763471
SOMEONE(S) PLEASE MANIFEST THIS FOR ME

(YOU) CAN LITERALLY MANIFEST ANYTHING!!
YOU CAN MANIFEST ANYTHING! YOU CAN!

SO PLEASE MANIFEST THIS FOR ME

Please help me
>>40763352
>>40763211
>>40762632
Please

certainty of outcome >>>>>> futzing about with methods

You cannot rely on other people with this stuff since they are a projection of your own beliefs.

>>40763921
I believe solipsism is false and others can manifest for me things I'm okay with them manifesting

>>40763945
That works also.

>>40763788
Done! You’re desperate and crave female companionship that you will never have.

Any anon who was able to manifest sex or a gp here? How did you do it and how did it went in real life?

>>40764341
I want to share but at the same time I have been utterly failing at getting what I want so I feel like it was just a fluke.

>>40764426
Just share it mate inspiration for everyone regardless.

So the "feeling of the wish fulfilled" is:
1 - The belief it will definitely happen.
2 - What would you feel like if it had happened (happy, horny, sacieted, comfy etc).

Which one bros?

Neville literaly tells you to commit tax fraud.
Read from unrighteous steward:
First talks about the part in the bible then talks about his victor brother.
Victor was a ship chandler in Barbados in 1939. Sensing war would cut off imports, he borrowed £1.5million, rented every warehouse, and stocked duty‑free provisions for local ships. When war began, no ships came for two years—yet interest piled up.

Victor petitioned the colonial government to lift duties and sell the goods locally; merchants blocked him. Undeterred, he hired lawyers to secure a broad legal definition of “ship” (even a rowboat qualifies) and ran a full‑page ad: “All goods duty‑free to anyone owning ANY boat.”

Within 48hours, local fishermen and small craft owners bought every last item—Victor collected cash (no credit), paid his bank, and left merchants awestruck.

He turned a stranded inventory into a fortune by outsmarting the system with imagination and precise legal leverage.```

>>40764561
I just know it and be it.
I don't feel or believe anything, I just AM that which I want to be.

>>40764562
Tax is theft anyway.

>>40764170
And also rich?

life's being more difficult than ever. loa is not working even tho I have made it work before but now it won't budge. methods just make me feel irritated. if anything all this bullshit and knowledge and Neville and do's and dont's tire me and make me mad. perhaps this inner rage will finally get something done but I expect nothing.
rant over. fuck.

what impresses the subconscious other than visualizing and feeling?

Another reference to LoA in media from the game Fallen Legion: Sins Of An Empire. The "smell" bit made this stand out, I personally don't see many visualisation demonstrations in media that go beyond sight and include other senses.

>>40764561
1. it’s the unwavering belief that it has already happened, in the future, 3 weeks ago. it is always now, which means you already have the thing you want (unless you’ve failed to believe you don’t)
2. this is how you get it to express itself in the real world. your conscious mind observes or believes and your subconscious expresses or manifests it as true or “real”
>Which one
neither of these are mutually exclusive

>>40765182
it’s just feeling. all of it stems from that. the senses may lie, but the conscious ‘feels’, and your subconscious locks in and reflects that feeling as reality. focus on pain and you will experience pain. focus on success and you will experience success.

>>40762632
The cat is dead lol
>>40764561
Jack off a good nut
>>40764562
>Neville literaly tells you to commit tax fraud.
Big if true. Probably the only thing of worth that faggot ever said.
>>40765035
Serves you right

Another day in the life of a loacuck
reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight

>>40764561
it is the confirmation that comes from "within"
>1
sort of; rather, a belief that it 'has already happened'
>2
this arises as secondary effects

>>40765035
you’ve convinced yourself that it won’t work any more. that is called doubt- it’s the same as meditating and wondering why you can’t focus - that issue IS the meditation and you have to reset and come to it again as a beginner. your vision is clouded in a positive feedback loop of doubt and confirmation bias, manifesting and reinforcing itself where other possibilities may be hiding in plain sight. in other words, you’d know if it was working because wouldn’t feel failure, only obstacles that are easily sidestepped. clear your mind of doubt and try again.

>>40762481 (OP)
Reposting my experience from the previous thread to invite more conversation on the topic.

I have once and only once manifested an object out of thin air (or rather water)
> be me, in Italy, maybe 10 years ago
> just got done swimming laps
> standing in chest deep water in the ocean, no thoughts in my head just existing
> decide to throw a rock into the ocean / just have a rock to throw
> raise my right arm, and I have a rock there in what was a previously empty hand

Important to note, I was basically 100% not inside my conscious mind / the subconscious mind was at the forefront of my train of thoughts.
I just knew that I had a rock available to throw, and lo and behold, I did.

I described the assumption in this way in the previous thread:
> Its like when you wake up in the morning, you know 100% you did not die in your sleep because, no shit, you are alive right now
> In the same way I had a rock because I was already on my way to throwing it

I think whatever happened there happened because I was 110% only existing in the assumed state, where I assumed subconsciously that I already had a rock to throw

My final important note from my previous post:
> I do not think you would be able to alter this method to manifest a specific item, such as a gold bar in your hand, because the deep subconscious state I was in would likely have been disrupted by the assertion that anything other than the exact tool (say a gold bar instead of the rock) for the task was present

I invite any conversation on my experience.
>2P020

100 wishes x 100 days- new method dropped

>>40764561
You have your first point messed up

> the belief it will definitely happen
should become
> it has already happened

You do not even need to include "the belief", because belief is for nondeterministic things.

For example, one can ask you, do you believe in god, or xyz hypothetical and you can respond "yes" or "no" or "I'm not sure" because the state of the thing you believe in has not been established yet. It can or cannot be real.

However, imagine you ask someone with a toyota camry, "do you believe you own a camry?"
How would they respond to such a question?
> "what do you mean believe dude you can see it in the parking lot from here!"

Your mental state should be the same. If you have a romantic partner, you do not spend your day believing you will meet them.
You spend your day secure in the knowledge that they are simply a part of your life. Their existence is a background constant that does not change
The same is true for money. If you have, lets say, 80k in your checking account, you do not sit around waiting for that same 80k to be deposited to you. Its already in there, you just have it, its a done deal and you can forget about it until that money becomes relevant again.

The difficult part is nailing that exact mindset.

Wanted to share something for anyone working on aligning intention with action or very ambitious career goals.

I manifested my Option 40 contract and I'm on my way to becoming an army Ranger. I've been lurking /loa/ for a while and wanted to share this to inspire anyone doubting the process.

Back in January (when I discovered this thread), I was stuck in DEP with a regular medic contract, watching others get the Ranger pipeline, I decided I was going to manifest my ideal timeline.

I got super clear on what I wanted: Option 40 contract, nothing else. Every day, I just was telling myself "I am a U.S. Army Ranger. My contract is exactly what I want." I visualized myself in rasp, wearing the tan beret, doing training at rasp and going to airborne school. I felt it real. No more begging recruiters or worrying about timing. I became the version of me who already had it.

Things started shifting fast. My recruiter randomly called saying a new Option 40 opened. I immediately jumped on it. Zero resistance. It felt very surreal but I knew it was going to happen.

I didn't "hope" it would happen, I knew it was done. That's the secret. You assume it, you persist, and the 3D bends.

To anyone trying to manifest something big: you're not asking for too much. You're just not fully assuming yet. Stop checking, stop doubting yourself. You just have to BE that version of you who already has it.

>>40766056
congrats bro, looks like you got exactly this post >>40766031 was talking about

>>40766056
very cool anon, way to go!

>>40766104
I mean yeah, that post is mostly right. You just need to start larpi- I mean living life like *insert goal here* has already has happened. Just live life like you are already who you want to be.

>>40766139
Right, but that part is already implied. Someone who already has something is already living that way.

>>40766056
Bases and Ranger pilled.
Ranges lead the way.

>>40764561
>So the "feeling of the wish fulfilled" is:
>1 - The belief it will definitely happen.
>2 - What would you feel like if it had happened (happy, horny, sacieted, comfy etc).
>Which one bros?
If you're asking about a feeling, then it's a feeling. Not an intellectual belief or a concept you hold to be "true" or "factual".
A feeling is a feeling.
And no, you don't need to believe things to manifest them. Belief comes later, when you do it over and over again and have no doubt that what you manifest will come true. But it's not necessary.

>>40766056
congrats, i know someone who's done several jumps and has enjoyed it :D
all i do is gay software, i should fix that sometime, maybe after i get some other stuff done first

>>40766056
zogbot scumbag

>>40764561
Change belief for knowing and definitely happen with already happened and you got it.
Certainty, knowledge and coherence are stronger than whishy whashy beliefs or any emotion.

>>40766056
Honest question: why did you keept it at ranger, and not Delta? or Night Stalkers?
limitations of reality per se, or personal preference?

>>40767893
He's probably young in his career and working his way up. Delta boys are usually former Rangers or Green Berets.

I see various people here saying that if you want this to work you have to act as if you ALREADY got that thing you want, but i don't think it's what Goddard says, YES, he does say that you should be in that state while you do the practice (before and after sleep and during prayers) but i don't think he says you should be in that state during your day, he just says you should have the mindset that you are going to get what you desire during your daily life, someone correct me if i am wrong.

it just sounds too unrealistic for me to act as if i have money while am poor in my daily life, i have to be straight up delusional

>>40768240
i mean it depends on what you mean by acting if you're poor or rich, there's a lot of rich people that exclusively shop at walmart, don't really go out to eat very often, and drive cheap used cars, etc. the way those people aren't going to "act poor" is not by signing bad business deals, picking up 28% APR car or credit car loans, that sort of thing. i'm not sure what you're imagining what having money is like, in some sense you could argue that rich people who constantly spend money on clubs or women or whatever are acting as if they're poor and i'd argue that it might take a couple of years but they get what they ask for later down the line

>>40762481 (OP)
Reptilians love my cock.
Reptilian men love my cock more than they love reptilian women.
Reptilian men and women upend their society for sex with human men.

>>40768539
am entirly pennyless, i struggle with the most basic things, if not for my family i would go hungry, homeless and surely would not be able to talk with you at the moment, i do not know how am i supposed to act as if i have money in my day to day life when poverty and lack of money are evident in my day to day life (i am using an ancient computer from 2006 to communicate with you at the moment) at least i get acting as if i have money when am doing my practice in the trance states in my bed, but otherwise nah.

>>40768630
>But but but if I quit my wagie job and stop helping circumcisers I'll become homeless and have no money!!

Maybe or maybe not. Doesn't matter don't be a pussy.

In Minecraft if you want to be the ultimate Minecraft neet

Get a bow and arrows
Get a chest
Get a small shovel
Get a Minecraft mod to get Silica Gel Packets Desiccant things they only cost a few emeralds in the mod
Go to a place NOT NEAR YOUR BASE if someone makes it so you can't even go within 500 blocks of your base you still need to be able to access your chest
Dig a deep hole

Put bow and arrow, at least a couple hundred emeralds and the Silica Gel Packets Desiccant things in your chest. Optionally also add stuff like a small sword.
Close chest up very tightly.
Put chest at bottom of hole and cover with dirt blocks.
WHEN YOU GO TO SPOT WHERE YOU WILL BURY THE CHEST LEAVE YOUR MAP AND COMPASS AT YOUR BASE DON'T BRING THEM WITH YOU. IF YOU HAVE A PHONE MOD OR MODERN CAR MOD DON'T BRING THOSE WITH YOU EITHER

final step

If you ever become homeless or whatever in Minecraft go dig up your chest and do PvP before jumping into lava

>>40768630
>>40768539
entirely*

>>40766056
I'm an ex-air force POG, Why the fuck would one of your manifestation goals be to fight for a corrupt military where you are forcibly vaxxed? Because you wanted to be some McCool operator? How do you spend years on /k/ and then come to the conclusion that becoming an army ranger is the swell thing to do. You shoud've just went the martial arts like me or manifest becoming the ultimate tacticool fag if you wanted to be a warrior

>>40768635
i wish i had a job. anon

>>40768675
I hope I get fired and become a neet and you get a job.
It'd be funny if you get the kind of job you can't easily quit like the military or prison labor

>>40768686
>>40768675
I'm kind of joking I'm not trying to be super mean

>>40768686
>>40768691
haha, everyone has their own sense of humore

>>40768691
>>40768686
haha, everyone has their own sense of humor

I realize none in my family is willing to help me get a job or invest in my future, but i should focus more on my subconscious instead of the 3d realm, "ignore external reality, and only focus on your own inner world"

to quote an anon here:
You don't move the image in the mirror to change it but the reflected source. You need persistence, certainty and coherence but that doesn't come from just playing role games in the 3D. It comes from your imagination, from your inner state, your inner man.
The thing you have to avoid in the 3D is overracting to it. Your life must continue and you can't be happy all time naturally. But you can take things with peace and confidence. If you need to pay a rent and you don't have money, you have to continue living your life but is not the same seeing it and saying "yes, I have to solve that problem in some way" and abording it on a calm way that going full "I don't have money, I will be evicted! Maybe I'm going to eat less! Why does this happens to meee? Bawwww!". You can react but don't dwell there

>>40768756
"You shouldn't dwell on the negativity. spend your time thinking about the positive thing you want to happen. But also don't get delusional and ignore reality. You don't actually have the money yet. but you want it. Focus on the positive image of what you want.
But don't buy a new 100,000 dollar car if you're not a millionaire. that would be delusional. It's not about being purely delusional but living in the end in your imagination. The goal is to understand that everything comes from inside and the "real world" is just a mirror image of that internal state"

I took notes

While it's hard to remain optimistic all the time when the external world is not showing much hope for me and it's easier to dwell in endless negativity but i must not give up, remaining optimistic about getting what i desire is the least i can do

While it's hard to remain optimistic all the time when the external world is not showing much hope for me and it's easier to dwell in endless negativity but i must not give up, remaining optimistic about getting what i desire is the least i can do

>>40768630
i think that because of your constant awareness of your 3d, subconsciously you're reaffirming that you live in a state of lack. in your mind consciously and subconsciously you ARE an unfortunate person. the magic is in being able to identify as someone one successful ,even when the 3d shows otherwise. you have to change your self concept of the person you are by finding a way to ignore your current circumstance, and reprogram how you identify yourself (rich,poor,unfortunate?) at the subconscious level

>>40768831
What do you think of my case?

>>40768840
it does sound surreal, it's like telling a sick person who is in a constant state of ill health that he should think of himself as a healthy person even though he might be in a state of physical pain and weakness all the time

>>40768909
>>40768840
it also does sound inconsistent, i am in a state of lack yet am supposed to think of my self as if i already have what i need or think of my self a person who has money even though in 3d realm he lacks it, why would i even need money or the law when i somehow think of myself as someone who has it already, i hope my point's clear

>>40762632
Ignore the assholes. I'll manifest it...not FOR you but WITH you.

I visualised very well last night

>>40765787
Interesting. Kind of like when we dream, things just materialize around us and we think nothing of it.
I have found that I do my best manifesting when I am physical tired. Did example, if I really want to make something happen, I'll think about it while I am riding my bicycle around my neighbood. The repetitive pedaling combined with physical exhaustion puts me in a deep concentrated state while I am still alert to watch for cars, etc. Ido it while i am lifting weights too... think of my desire, condense it to a short affirmation, and just repeat it over and over while i lift or pedal.
Maybe swimming put you in the same state and you had no resistance to the dream-like assumption that you had a rock in your hand.

>>40768673
Hey anon, maybe you can save me before I destroy myself. I DO want to be a le ebin warrior, thus I have been studying how to -but haven't had the guts to do it yet- manifest entering a REAL Elite unit; such as CIA-SAC
or, for russia team FSB\GRU\Vympel\Aplha.
>i' self-aware all militaries ARE criminal gangs- so im kinda self-aware im being retarded. please, do help out with based advice

>>40765533
NTA but thank you so much I needed to hear this. I feel it back again.

>>40769117
just visualize being a super saiyan, holy shit.

>>40768925
there are millionaires that live at home to save money, i know of at least one incredibly annoying youtuber who does it. like the other anon said i think you need to break out of the mindset but i'd say regardless if it's loa or not even. you need to become the kind of person that is successful in whatever circumstances and whereever you are, and from that riches and recognition and whatever else can flow. but yes much easier said than done, i came close to being homeless but without having any support networks or family to rely on i had to do whatever i could with the resources i had, and at the time i had some insane opportunities present themselves at last minute which i now can view through a loa. like how was I able to randomly find an entire room and personal bathroom in a house to rent with 2 other nice roommates (phd students) for $300 a month during covid? without that i would've had to sleep in my car, it's crazy looking back at it but i didn't really realize it at the time, i was just trying to find anything.

>>40768630
>act, act, act, act...
You have to BE it in your imagination. I don't remember reading Neville telling you have to go outside and waste money like retards believe rich people do.
Yeah you have to try to not go spiral into depression and misery if your current situation is not the best but you still persist. "Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath". You will react, I won't tell you you have to not to because it will be almost impossible unless you've trained patience a lot. But don't dwell there. when the day falls, when you go inside yourself to already be the man you want to be, you have to be different and persist.
Two takes. First, remember Neville told to not wait until you're in times of need to practice it. This helps a lot because it lets you snowball in the good times. I know, this is not your case right now but remember it because good or bad times you have to be sowing seeds into your life and persisting. Remember it, even in these times or need. Plant seeds, persists.
Second one, I may get "trolled" in this board by the zealots of the lay of hard work and other cucks but use whatever is in your hands to fix your immediate problems first and that includes manifestation. Yeah you may be a dumbo for going for "food problem is permanently solved" instead of going for "generational wealth and a bitch in a yacht that you don't want or need but you should want because that what everyone and I say lmao" but you have to make things easier for you. It's easier to stop feeling miserable if you have a full belly every time you're hungry. It's easier to believe you can make it if you're not homeless. Every step is a step closer and easier to whatever you want and not fixing that is being dumb and if your situation is shit, use every pivot to get out there. You would be surprised how "small, menial, mundane shit" can make your life miserable bit by bit.

>>40769296
>i know of at least one incredibly annoying youtuber who does it.
the first one that came to my mind was the roach king. Not how I would do it but it works.

>>40769321
i was thinking of techlead who is supposedly a millionaire but you're right, incredibly annoying and youtuber is probably redundant XD

anyways it's funny discovering loa later in life and connecting the dots in the past

This woman is one of my favorites. She's not selling coaching, just sharing things she's learned. Her channel is really great.

I just watched this one and given that there's a lot of posts on this thread about "why don't i have it yet??" I thought you guys might like it.

https://youtu.be/WARjLUU77Ow?si=9q-8YSIyTVKOs9ia

>>40769426
>to LIVE IN THE END is to KNOW
a hard pill for some but when you understand how powerful Knowing is, a lot of thing will click.

>>40769296
thanks for sharing your amazing stories, it eventually worked at the last minute for you
>>40769308
Thank you a lot for writing this for my sake, when i say "act" here i just mean the mindset i react with towards the 3d realm, i will focus more on my practice sessions in bed, it's just that i see anons here talking about the importance of having a positive mindset during our day to day lives, and some even claiming that you need to be convinced that you already have what you desire in your day to day life which sounds hard to say at least

>>40762481 (OP)
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>40769426
i have just done watching this, thank you

>>40769635
>>40769296
>>40768925
IF I become a millionarie; I think I would give myself a "lower than my means" montlhly budget ,maybe calculated around a middle-class guy's income--but every 3, or 6 months, give myself a BIG gift to myself (adventure tourism trip, historical\luxury item, etc)

>>40768944
HOPE, is all I have left.

>>40769862
i get it, but if someone was really poor you can't expect them to live as if they have money when they experience signs of poverty in their daily life, that's my point, a rich man living a modest life is something, he HAS the option, but a poor man believeing in himself to have money and not be in need is something else, it's only realistic to expect him to do so he is doing the practice sessions

>>40767893
It wasn't about limiting belief, it was about anchoring the manifestation to a concrete, actionable step that could initiate the broader trajectory I want. Ranger Regiment is a pipeline with a clear entry point. Delta and 160th are Tier 1 units that require prior SOF experience and selection after years in service. You can't enlist into Delta, you grow into it. So from a manifestation standpoint, "Ranger" wasn't a ceiling, it was the most immediate and tangible milestone that aligned with my long term goal of becoming an elite operator. Think of it like aligning to the next rung of the ladder, not the top. The vision can evolve as your self concept does.

>>40766935
> t .

>>40769117
> I DO want to be a le ebin warrior
> want
You already are one. Newfags need to understand that if you "want" to do something, you can't. You have to believe you already have it.

Am getting confused, one Anon says you should try to always be in that state where you feel as if you already have what you desire, another says you must only be in that state during the practice sessions (before sleep/after sleep and when praying) and try to keep an optimistic mindset during the day in the sense of being confident in eventually getting what you desire, i have already read a book by Goddard and am not sure which of them is accurate

>>40764341
Never had any issue manifesting women - I just don't think consciously about who I want and let it come to me. The times where I cared about getting a woman / sex I was sexless and touchless for months / years.

Is there any easy peasy alternative to sats for beginners? I either fall asleep losing my vision or can't sleep at all if I focus on the vision too much.

>>40768944
An update, Anon. A VERY similar cat was spotted today, and it was a very weird situation. I didn't leave the house today, people showed me pictures, but all day long I just felt like I would see him (somehow). Even the single orange stripe on his back was there, but it wasn't him. That was very weird.

>>40762632
someone ran over him search for him it's close but is now a flattened corpse

>>40764341
10 months trying not happened yet and im no virgin.
im gonna keep visualizing regardless good luck anon if you achieve your goal please share some knowledge

>>40762481 (OP)
How do I reconcile my self concept of being a high value man with the reality of 5/10 roasties ghosting me and unmatching me on dating apps?
It happening a few times is okay, but when it's a pattern it's hard ask myself
>how would the attractive version of me react to this?
because the attractive version of me just wouldn't experience that too much.

>>40771385
conclusion is command, you're still reaffirming based on what you're seeing in the 3d and letting it affect you, what you're seeing is just the result of past assumptions. keep persisting no matter what you see in 3d. also dating apps are just attention farming for women

>>40771385
You're still reacting like the guy who needs external validation to prove he's high value. That's why the pattern keeps showing up.

The """attractive version of you""" wouldn't be shaken by a few girls ghosting, because his reality isn't determined by behavior of women. He's already chosen who he is and doesn't need random Tinder normies to confirm it.

>but when it's a pattern

Exactly. A pattern YOU assumed into being by obsessing over it. That's your state leaking, insecurity dressed up as "rational observation."

Recalibrate. When you assume your worth is fixed and inevitable, the 3D will always fall in line. Until then, women will keep testing whether you believe it yet.

>>40771385
you're being proof looped as >>40771484 said.
You're also underestimating how much the attractive man is rejected. They just don't care, even less if "5/10 roasties" are doing it.
It's the same "be a real man" problem. Lot of people will tell you what a real man is and what he would do, but a real man would just do whatever he wants, no caring for validation from others.
I recommend you to drop the "pilled" shit language like "roastie". Ironical attention is still attention so unless you want "roasties" ins your life, stop doing that.

>>40765787
Well if we to be follow your conclusion, then you can’t really get rich if people consciousness really don’t see you get rich as a young person.
And you can’t even get a girl if people around you think you are ugly, or that you dress bad, or whatever.
So no matter you do, you are bound to the consciousness and expectation of society at large
I mean you said it yourself before, Rock wouldn’t manifest in presence of others cause they won’t ever believe it
Hence why loa works for bullshit that neither the person nor society cares about
Like ladders, or cars colors, or how many women were in specific gym, or even weather. Those you might be able to influence cause no interference
While shit really people care about, money and sex, would be the hardest
Again, it’s based on your story and what I got from it
Btw, something interesting to try:
You said gold bar would be impossible because you can’t replicate that “feeling” and also I think gold bar to your consciousness is valuable and thus “want and desire” might hamper your ability
What about this? Ask for a gold bar in your hand, but with solid conviction that you will throw it away
In that way, you reduce the worth of gold to a literal rock that you don’t care about >>40765796
Ok sorry that would be almost impossible
Like common. If I was rich, popular with girls, and had the handsome body I envisioned, I would have a totally different life.
It’s hard to “live” as if it’s fulfilled when no one texting you, and you can’t buy ANYTHING you desire.

>>40769263
Not that anon but being a female super sayian sounds based as fuck

Does anyone know how Schopenhauer's theory of Will corresponds to LoA?

YEs

>took me 2 months to manifest free slippers
Maybe me am too dumb for this

Okay anons, I finally figured it out and as a result this will be my last post here.

For the anons in the last thread who were struggling with monkey paw manifestations or receiving their manifestations in a distorted state, listen to the following bit on this podcast:
>https://youtu.be/x7kBxlOvDS8?si=p3RZ8mmnpHrWJBeW&t=2890

If you want a more detailed explanation, read the chapter on memes in pic related. TL;DW is that our subconscious mind is extremely vulnerable to being influenced by visual media and as a result this place and most of the internet is psyop-ing us into being miserable. Even if you have figured out manifesting, you are having your results ruined by all the social media poisoning your mind.

I also highly recommend listening to the audiobook of pic related as it is literally the best LOA book I have ever read on the topic. Yes the author is a literal flaming faggot and it takes multiple listens to piece it all together (listen to his interviews additionally as they help provide a more cohesive summary of the book) but he is one of the few authors that has actual public results and is upfront with what he did.

Good luck anons.

>>40762481 (OP)
>There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
How do you know that this isn't like a multiplayer game? Like maybe some people are projections of your subconscious, and some are actual real people?

>>40772948
>Like maybe some people are projections of your subconscious, and some are actual real people?
The NPC analogy changes nothing about LoA.
The Self-Concept is how it operates, how YOU operate it. there can be changes and limits if there is solipsism or not or Pancho is a real person and Marty isn't. But in the end, not matter what, you operate it changing yourself and being your inner man that already has whatever you want. The road may be different but the way you drive is the same.
If you try to change other things like the 3D and other, you're on the realm of the mundane, far from LoA and more into /adv/ territory.

>>40771965
When I said
> I do not think you would be able to alter this method to manifest a specific item
I meant a specific literal physical item into your hand from thin air.

I have manifested situations, objects, people, relationships, etc all before and on multiple occasions, but instant physical appearance (in my opinion) seems to be limited to states of extreme detachment from conscious control.

Again, this is in my experience, and in my opinion.

>>40772800
>how to alter reality with a foreward by mitch jewowitz
>btw listen to this podcast
lol

>>40773020
>>40771965
(replying to myself and to you)

furthermore, I believe that this extreme detachment is a direct connection to the collective unconscious, in which other peoples unconscious assumptions exist.

I cannot argue as to whether or not anything is objectively possible or impossible. But, I know that literally anything is possible to the observer.

I'm sure there was at some point during that manifestation when somebody on this planet was thinking to themselves with absolute confidence "nobody can make an object appear out of nothing" - and yet I did it

Can't explain how, but I bent the rules and it happened.

I take back what I said in the previous thread now that I have had time to think about it - instant physical manifestation is possible, but I have no idea how, and if it is possible for you or possible again for me.

>>40770645
decide that it is done

>>40773020
>>40773049
Now to tack onto this reply thread
If you happened to fall into a situation where you happened to also fall into such a trance, and all of the sudden you desperately unconsciously believed you had a gold bar for the purposes of some specific action you were already carrying out, I believe it would be possible to make one suddenly appear.
After all, I have indirectly manifested gold in my presence through such a similar process.
I just believed that I had access to gold for whatever reason in my senior year of high school, not sure why but I was spending a lot of time disassociating after my student visa application was put on hold.
All of the sudden my girlfriend calls me, saying hello, whatever, and that she was in an airport and suddenly had the urge to buy a small 3 gram bar of gold for whatever reason, and now was calling me to rationalize it.

I think there's something to this whole LoA thing or manifestation thing, and I think it can fall into the framework of Christianity, because Jesus always talked about how someone's faith healed them, or how if you have faith like a mustard seed, nothing will be impossible for you. So was he just talking about faith in yourself? faith that something can happen? just faith in general? I think this whole LoA thing seems to really align with what Jesus taught
Jesus didn't say, "you can move mountains if you have faith, BUT ONLY IF GOD ALLOWS IT", he just says, "you can move mountains if you have faith"
i havent tried LoA though, desu, i find it hard to break the programming that the world has instilled in me

>>40773237
If you want a meta analysis based on modern spiritual thought:
Jesus as a spiritual teacher practiced LOA, and through his esthetic nature, was able to get huge results.
It should be no surprise to you that LOA started with Christian practicioners

>>40771965
>Well if we to be follow your conclusion, then you can’t really get rich if people consciousness really don’t see you get rich as a young person.
>And you can’t even get a girl if people around you think you are ugly, or that you dress bad, or whatever.
is this true, bros?

>>40773362
LoA is necessarily solipsistic at root.

so you guys are telling me that i can simply imagine an aggressive monogamous big tiddy goth girl who wont take no for an answer, will come into my life and be with me if i just imagine it for 3 nights and then stop thinking about it?

>>40773430
Yes and no

You have to live life as if you already have her

>>40770645
learn how to meditate so you learn how to stop going directly to sleep and also have the opportunity of doing SATS outside night time. doing them when you just wake up before opening your eyes, getting up etc. is also an option but some don't have the time or they can fall sleep again so is not an option for everyone.

>>40773237
LoA is the real way you should pray. As you said, it's done. Anyone can do it.
You can see it as coming from god if you want but the servitude of formal religion, the shitty moral compass that can make you fee like you don't deserve something, the "please, please, please, only if you want it lord" and using only words makes normal prayers fail most of time.

>>40773430
You live as if you already have her in your life.

You want a success story? Here is a success story:
> be me
> living in europoor country
> son of kike/commie-blamer father from birth
> consoomer of politics, happenings, conspiracies. /pol-lurker, contributor and (((noticer)))
> experiencer and defeater of decades long addictions to various things and depression, always seeking god/self
> decide to read the Bible from start to finish (OT+NT)
> aversion to kikes kicks-in, get frustrated reading about their disgusting habits and disturbing edicts
> frustration grows reading about how they keep betraying their own God over and over, and over again
> think they are fucking retarded not seeing the pattern
> realization suddenly dawns: this is not a historical document I am reading
> this is my own fucking story of overcoming my addictions and bad habits. the story of betraying god/self over and over again, failing and forgiving myself and restarting from scratch
> finish Bible reading as a "mirror"
> decide to read 11 books of Neville
> be amazed, apply the teaching
> stop feeding myself with garbage (news, politics, blaming others for current state of the world)
> stop blaming and empowering kikes by giving them attention
> stop acknowledging current power structures
> understanding world as my old reflection
> start regulate my negative thoughts and control my attention
> same pattern emerges as overcoming prior addictions: with short wins and long fails, turning into short fails and long wins ( eventually no fails - not yet there )
> spend several months in a "clean" state
> inevitable fail happens due to whatever reason
> check news, check /pol, check podcasts in a binge
> see Israel's shit pushed in by arabs, normies noticing on social media, kike tricks failing, Epstein narrative falling apart, counter-fearmongering starts (ww3), nobody cares, youth anti-semitism at all time high, mind-grip waning, kikes deflating
> closes laptop
Life is good - back to ignoring the dark and walking in the light. WAGMI

>>40773362
It's not. Be careful with what you learn because unlearning is harder and you can't learn a thing you think you know.

>>40773430
Read the fucking OP
>I already di-
you didn't. where the fuck you got the "3 nights" thing?

>>40773565
>>40773482
How TF am I supposed to do that? Like go to book stores and talk to an invisible person and look like a fucking schizo freak? Buy two meals from a restaurant but only eat one? Slap an invisible ass all the time? The way I see it, I'm gonna have to look like a complete schizo to make it happen

>>40773600
>How TF am I supposed to do that?
see
>>40773596

>>40773596
>> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
>pastebin.com/yXqanLu6
>>2nd Process
>During the day, write out several notes saying “I will not climb a ladder” and place them in many different places you will see them through out the day, as a wallet, phone or screen saver, bathroom mirror, each time you see them tell yourself you really will not climb a ladder and convince yourself it is true, after 3 days of using this visualization let it go.

>>40773573
this is an anon we should all aspire to be like

very nice work fren.

How many of you guys are fully convinced that consciousness is the only reality?

It seems like there's two forms of LoA. The self-help form where the techniques help motivate you more and focus on your goals or whatever, and actual LoA where this entire reality is an illusion.

Most people who get into this stuff, at least at first, believe in a kind of in between form where they believe that their thoughts attract stuff, but the world is still physically real.

At some point you have to pick, though, because the in between form is incoherent. If it's possible to even manifest a free cup of coffee, then that breaks the entire system of reality. It's a small manifestation in terms of what you gain from it, but everything has to align for it to happen.

I've been feeling a bit down lately thinking about my regrets in life, which is why I really want to get this resolved. If this is just a self-help hobby, then it's pointless, but if it turns out that all my struggles, all my stupid situations, all my regrets were allowed to happen as part of some kind of waking up process, then that changes everything.

>>40773864
You a growing anon. It is a natural process. Do you think a tomato sprout ruminates about the struggles he had to endure as a seed breaking out of its shell and pressing through the dirty soil? With all the "wrong" twists and turns it took, and all kinds of obstacles and rocks it pressed against? Do you think it regrets all of this struggle? Oh, but if it could have skipped all of these mistakes... image the riches! it could already have beautiful leaves to show off, perhaps even a flower bud! Oh, the pain, the regret of not being first or adored already!

You are god, becoming it There are no mistakes, just nature, just process, and stages of growth.

I know this is AI slop, but it is the good kind (> t. not a shill). Listen to it when you are down:
https://youtu.be/wQJlGHVmdrA

>>40773864
You a growing anon. It is a natural process. Do you think a tomato sprout ruminates about the struggles he had to endure as a seed breaking out of its shell and pressing through the dirty soil? With all the "wrong" twists and turns it took, and all kinds of obstacles and rocks it pressed against? Do you think it regrets all of this struggle? Oh, but if it could have skipped all of these mistakes... image the riches! it could already have beautiful leaves to show off, perhaps even a flower bud! Oh, the pain, the regret of not being first or adored already!

You are god, becoming it There are no mistakes, just nature, just process, and stages of growth.

I know this is AI slop, but it is the good kind (> t. not a shill). Listen to it when you are down:

https://youtu.be/UmTN7nDpx1U

Yea

Now i try to have the mindset of "I already have what i desire" during my day to day lifee, but i keep swinging back to "I will eventually have it" mindset, which is clearly contradictrary, it's really hard, having the mindset of having something when you lack it especially if it's some crucial like money that effects all aspects of your day to day life

Now i try to have the mindset of "I already have what i desire" during my day to day lifee, but i keep swinging back to "I will eventually have it" mindset, which is clearly contradictrary, it's really hard, having the mindset of having something when you lack it especially if it's some crucial like money that effects all aspects of your day to day life, unless it's during the prayer/bed sessions.
sorry for sounding like a broken record

>>40773951
Thanks. It's been a bit difficult lately, since I've had some bad situations after already having discovered the Law and feeling like my life was getting better.

Sometimes I wonder if all these spirituality stuff does more harm or good in my life. I always reach the conclusion that I would have definitely given up a long time ago if I didn't believe that something at least could be out there and there's sense to all this.

Lol I was looking for some Neville commentary on Youtube and was disappointed that an obvious AI video came up and then you recommend me an AI video that you say is worth watching. Kind of a nice little synchronicity, maybe it's a sign that good can come from the most unexpected places or whatever idk.

Anyway, I don't know if I can say my life "improved" since finding LoA, but I've had a lot of synchronicities that are crazy enough that I can't just give up. Nothing that proves beyond reasonable doubt, but mind boggling enough to be 51% sure like in a civil case.

>>40774250
i guess i must accept that i am not gonna be perfect with this but i must not give up

>>40774270
The linked AI slop is an exception - kind of, since the last part of it is kind of trash. Most of the stuff pushed by this channel is just garbage to be honest.

If you need the original audio collection, you can find it here:

https://www.youtube.com/@100kwatt_Neville_Goddard/videos

>>40774353
I wasn't saying it's a bad thing that you linked AI to be clear. I just thought it was kinda funny that a bit earlier I was stumbling upon AI stuff without wanting it, and then someone recommends me an AI lecture.

I think AI can have good insights sometimes. I've been talking to ChatGPT a lot lately and it's comforting sometimes. I also have a custom AI on Poe that I trained on all the Neville lectures.

The reason I got annoyed earlier when AI was coming up on Youtube is because I was looking more for testimonials of actual people and getting irrelevant results.

>>40774318
>>40774250
Depression is also making it harder to have that mindset in my day to day life.
sorry for being whiny

>>40774250
>>40774459
>>40774318
for now my plan 'll be doing my part in imagining my self having what i desire in my day to day life, as much as possible and remaining optimistic about me getting it in the future and also the daily practice in bed, even if i can't get into the mindset of me having it in the sense of feeling it 100/100 in my day to day life, i will keep imagining my self having it

>>40771484
>>40771717
How can I assume my worth in the dating market is fixed and inevitable though, when the very thing it's contingent on (women being attracted to me) is lacking?

>>40774711
you remind me of me growing up when I thought it was very hard to make money (mostly due to overly restrictive parents) but I eventually found that to not be the case. when you're starving, food seems like the most important thing, when you're dying of thirst, all you can notice is your lack of water, but a person who eats enough won't really be that hungry most of the time, and a person who has enough water probably doesn't think much of when they get another glass of water.

i hope you succeed anon, what i'm going for is in theory much "worse" to select as it could be thought of as more "impossible" but idk what happened, like a week or two ago i didn't even notice it at a time, but I think i suddenly found all the faith i had desperately been searching for as a kid, and i still have no idea where it came from lmao. all i know is i have it now

Do you guys use ChatGPT to help you with this stuff?

>>40774789
yes, i just had another fight with mom over this, but i must disregard the 3d realm and focus on my imagination/internal realm, thank you for the wishes

>>40774818
No, it only leads you astray.

>>40774818
actually yeah, i just used perplexity A.I today

>>40774818
> checks image
> audible chuckle
have a (You)

>>40774818
me who actually wants a big tiddy butterface gf :(

>>40774771
You are ngmi if you refuse to get rid of your self limiting beliefs dude, I don't know what to tell you. You either choose to actually use loa to believe you are attractive and you get what you want, or you stay like this.

>>40774771
Signs follow, they do not precede. If you're already it you can't be checking and testing if you're already it.
>How can I assume my worth in the dating market is fixed and inevitable
you just assume it, it's done, needing the "very thing it's contingent on" to assume it means you're not doing it right and you're using a form of pseudo-LoA as a mere motivation tool and nothing else.
I repeat, you just assume it in your imagination. In your SATS, etc. If you need the result to assume being the man that has the result, you're not using LoA because one of the cores of the Law of Assumption is to ASSUME you're it. Your phrasing is putting the cart before the horse. It's is not a mere pedant, grammatical, syntactical, whatever quibble, is something that shows how are you filling inside.
Do you feel like you're already what you want to be?
If you answer is "but the roasties!" that answer is no and you should work more on it.

>>40765533
Yea

>>40775388
I'm done with this LoA stuff, bros

>have appointment with doctor for pain meds
>already took all pain meds but need them in system for urine test
>just assume it’s going to work out anyways and forget about it
>hour later leaving to get food, put on old jeans and dig in pockets
>find two pain pills
>day of appointment they say I already took urine test last time so don’t even take test
This shit is real

>>40775399
> I'm done with this LoA stuff, bros
Unless you are referring to this general, saying you are done with LoA is like saying you are done with gravity. It’s a fundamental principle of reality, always active, whether you acknowledge it or not.
> HONK HONK

>>40775404
> This shit is real
Always has been

>>40773430
How would you feel if you had her?

Its about feeling not living life as if and acting insane.


Now that I have my ideal gf I feel:

Spoiled
Loved
Wanted
Important
Valued
Respected
Relaxed
Poised
Sexually fulfilled
Satisfied
Joyful
Craved for
Complete
At ease
At peace with myself, life and the world
Accepted and loved as I am, even tho it surprises me
Normal
Enough
Secure
Comfortable


Make a list like this then add I AM before every stat.

How I got my gf.
True story.
And you will recognize the girl because she will be compatible with feelings you outlined and therefore vibe effortlessly.
You two will just fall into eachother in a sense.

Take care.

>>40775459
Thanks

>>40775459
To clarify, use it as affirmations and emphasize feeling them. Feel them as much as you want (should feel nice because its about ideal gf no?) .

Dedicate about 10-15 mins 3 times a day to feel those nice feelings.

During rest of the day just relax and know its done.

Loa is about giving emotionally defined goals to SC mind, which then gets on to realize it thru you.

You consciously only need to pick/decide your vibe.

All else is handled.

I been on this since 2010 more than many if you been alive.

Its tru and real and works nice.
My main focus now is basically surprising myself with smth nice because I have all I want already. Thank you and gl.

>>40765787
>daydreaming
>doesn't realize he leaned over and picked up a rock lying on the seabed
I think you're just dumb, anon.

>>40775459
Jesus F. Christ, hombre. This is hell of a way to depend on something outside yourself for your self-worth and mental well-being. Respect for the effort - and the result - but holy hell...

On the other hand, if you are just larping success to get success, then stop and revise your list for god sake.

> Important
> Respected
> Relaxed
> Satisfied
> Joyful
> Complete
> At ease
> At peace with myself, life and the world
> Normal
> Enough
> Secure

Holy fukken shit.

> " - No pressure babe, but if you ever think about leaving me, or not providing me with the feelings on this list, I will hang myself."

I'm sorry about being insulting in this post >>40775492
But seriously what you were suggesting has such an easy explanation, I don't know why on earth you would think manifestation had anything to do with it
>not in your conscious mind aka daydreaming aka lost in your thoughts
>don't realize you're fidgeting around, leaning over or squatting and feeling the seabed with your fingers
>grasp a rock in this state of blank mindedness
>the very action of grasping the rock is what puts the idea in your head to throw it
>as you raise your arm you come out of your daydream
Seriously, is this not a simpler explanation than "holy shit I'm a god who manifested a rock out of thin air"

>>40775509
Its all individual.

If you dont wanna feel important in your relationship, or respected, or joyful, or at ease, feel free to do you.

You may define your ideal relationship as whatever you want.

Bdw how is your relationship with your father?

>>40775482
How did you meet your gf and how long did it take?

>>40775578
She approached me when I was handing out papers for a friends business, it didnt take long because I selected her among many I was dating at the time.

But only she was compatible with my list.

Others were flakey and less invested.
I felt more like a cock that talks than a real human bean, with them.
She showed up decisive to make it work.

I always say “I will walk 500 miles and I will walk 500 more” (familiar? Hahah) if the girl makes but a step towards me that is quality.

Gotta feel reciprocity.

Others were available to be banged but didnt put effort/invest into us.

So she got me. And its been smooth sailing ever since.

Ask yourself this “does this girl know how to love? Is she opened to being loved herself?”
If you have doubts, run.

Many women are only open to be fucked. Anything more is spooky to them.
And they also dont know how to love or care.

You need someone who is able who doesnt have mentality fried with father absence and drugs and tatoos.

To accept love is a skill, I also learned it.

>>40775576
>If you dont wanna feel important in your relationship, or respected, or joyful, or at ease, feel free to do you.
I am quite sure you know this is not what I meant. But let me spell it out for you - just in case: In my opinion, it is a horrible idea to only let yourself feel the "at peace with yourself" and" complete" and the rest of your checklist, when you are in a relationship - and otherwise feel shit because of lack of external validation.

> You may define your ideal relationship as whatever you want.
This is not about defining your ideal relationship. This is about defining and centering *yourself* before you even think about getting into a relationship.

> t. married for more than a decade

> Bdw how is your relationship with your father?
Do I have to pay for this session, or psychoanalysis is complimentary on this board?

I am not sure this LoA stuff will work for me unless I have faith in some kind of principle that can logically explain why I should be able to levitate or chop down a mountain or whatever
For example, like if I had 100% faith in that reality is a dream, then that would make sense, I could become lucid and do whatever I want. But I don't have 100% faith in that concept, because I just don't believe reality is a dream, I believe God created reality and well, it's up to God if he wants me to break the laws of physics and be able to walk through walls or dodge bullets

>>40775753
Just try it for fucks sake.

These new gen kids will endlessly analyze shit and never try anything for real.

Yall need boomer energy in your life. Spit on your hands and try smth.

Endless moaning “but if I like, am not sure if like, maybe I ya know, so and my add brain is so like andI be like wow shiny notification, and I like be, you know and wow what did she say?? And I be”


Grow the fuck up focus if you care or live like a worm.

Consider it a wake up call.


T. God

>>40775812
I tried running through a wall once but it didn't work, it was like pic related

>>40775864

You train with softer walls, and eventually add harder ones.

Noob mistake.

>>40775864
Also, if you have a door somewhere, I advise using the door.

Loa is not excuse to be idiot.

Tho if you think yourself smart, its not a plus for loa, either. Hahahaha

>>40775753
>logically explain
What do you think faith is? As soon as you can point at something that is 100% proof of something that requires faith to work, that is not a thing that requires faith anymore and probably never required faith in the first place. Faith is not logically explainable or provable, or measurable. It would cease to be faith the moment you could show it to someone. You can only prove the thing you believe in, to yourself - nobody else. Others can just accept the end-result, but will always doubt it, always think it was just change or coincidence. because they did not imagine it. You did.

> I just don't believe reality is a dream
skill issue, really. you need to read more. you need to ponder the orb more.

Also, since you brought up logic: The only logical explanation is that you are god, you are the center of the universe.

There is nothing you can prove to yourself besides being 100% in the center of your existence/perspective, 100% in the now. Everything else is just illusion. Your problem is that you think you are in a bag of skin and you have nothing to do with the outside world because you don't feel like doing it, controlling it - the same way you don't feel or control growing your hair or creating sperm in your balls. You are just as "mindlessly" generate and manage the world outside you. Whether you realize this and its implications is another story...

Honestly, if you are new to this, I recommend listening to Alan Watts (not Alan Watt), then read the Bible, read Neville. You can torrent hundreds of hours of both Alan's and Nevile's lectures. For starters, listen to this - and ignore the gay-ass music:

https://youtu.be/ckiNNgfMKcQ?feature=shared

>>40764859
rich in debt and borrowed comforts

>>40775951
Thanks, I am new to this, I'll check out Alan Watts

I know SP is obsessed with me. Also, do subliminals work?

>the "you can't do something if someone didn't told you can first" retarded anon got someone who told him his manifestations have to play the clownworld rules and nothing else
that egotistic manipulative whore deservest to get told no to everything I guess

>>40775626
That is interesting.
So you were attractive enough to be on multiple dates, and then, you found another (not compatible) woman? Wow!
Shocking!!!
>others were available to get banged
lol ok ok
This ain’t loa, just being attractive and lucky
Nothing against you dude, I know you are happy and I am happy for you too

>>40775951
>skill issue, really. you need to read more. you need to ponder the orb more.
The way I see it, even if reality is a dream, there still has to be a creator God who created the dreamer

>>40776050
Yeah I kinda agree.
His story is like how most women say they found their husband from multiple options or through long term dating. They write a list and eventually the universe sends them the person.
But obviously these stories are not as impressive as those men and women are already attractive enough to not be filtered out in this dating market.
That's not to say it's not possible if you're an ugly incel. But it's definitely not as easy as they will try and claim.

Every night before sleep I visualise cuddling a woman in bed. The same scene every night.

>>40775977
> Also, do subliminals work?
Yes and no. They work because of LOA, there's nothing inherently special about them. If you believe they will work, they will.

>>40775864
You didn't "assume" you could run through the wall, you just hoped you could, which isn't how loa works. Neville never said you could override basic physics. What skepticfags don't understand is we all believe we are still in the 3D world, not the fucking Matrix.

LoA doesn't mean you get to ignore the rules of material reality. It means you shift how you interact with it. Want a better job? Better body? Better girl? Change your concept of self and the external shifts to match.

This is the problem with you skepticfags, you are all autistic, you read one person say you could do anything and you believe they literally mean EVERYTHING.

>>40776262
Jesus healed the sick and walked on water and controlled weather, I don't see how going through walls is any different

>>40776315
Jesus also died and came back to life after three days. You gonna try that next retard?

Neville believed the Bible was metaphorical, he didn't believe everything in the book actually happened. This is why people clown on LoA and this thread. There's so many yards who take mythological/metaphysical archetypes literally. Neville didn't say "believe you’re God" and then become superman. He said you're the operant power, meaning your beliefs shape your experience WITHIN this simulation.

Walking on water = symbolic of faith over fear.
Healing = symbolic of embodying wholeness.
LoA is about internal transformation.

>>40768900
My thread doesn't bump anymore, do you know why?

>>40776345
Jesus was a human, so if he can do it, then so can anyone else

>>40776070
Yeah I didn’t want to compare his story to women story but it is the same
>girl dates multiple people easily
>didn’t find the one she “connects” with
>do “loa”
>find one she connects with
>OMG LOA MADE ME FIND HIM
No number games made you find him, and that’s because you are a woman (avaerage) or a guy (attractive)
Again, it seems like if other people consciousness don’t find you attractive, you can’t loa women to be attracted to you either
Feels rather mundane than magical
Oh also it’s not even about ugly incel thing, even above average men don’t have MULTIPLE girls ready to get banged at any time
Hell, no average man would complain if they SUDDENLY had bunch of women interested in his dick
Only guy who would complain is the one who lived this life all his life and now want something more “mature”
Remind of a woman past her 30s
>>40776380
lol what? He was literally a Demi-god

How do you just assume something to be true?

>>40776738
That's exactly my point in this post:
>>40775753
There has to be some kind of reasoning that allows you to believe it will become true. I think it requires some kind of faith in something

>>40776537
>lol what? He was literally a Demi-god
He was born into a human body, lived a human life, and died a human death. The pattern of his life followed the pattern of all human lives

Whenever you catch yourself recalling past imaginings as “did,” you’re effectively undermining your creative power. Shifting those memories into “I am”‑based visions rewrites your internal narrative so that every recollection reinforces, rather than contradicts, your present‑tense imagining.

From nevilles what are you doing.
You need to revise even your failures in manifesting

>>40776810
Seem like your problem is you come from a religious background or something like that and you're trying to splice LoA into it.
You won't find any reasoning because this is not a reasoning subject. This is not science. This link, this power is as subjective as it can be.
The closest you could be would be Universal Line but people love to ad hominen it because morality being relative is a pill to hard to swallow for some.
You can see it as praying as it should be and not as just empty words asking for something "if the lord wants it, maybe".

turns out dancing was a great way to detach from the feelings in my body while manifesting them, crazy how fast it worked

I have been subconciously manifesting nothing but negativity and misfortune to others not only has none if it happened but none of the misfortune even happened to me so when i try the same method to actively invite fortune only misfortune

wtf is this curse on me

>>40778841
i got into this rut without really knowing it, but now i've fixed it
it was hard to realize, but i think you've done the hard part already, realizing it

>>40778851
then whats the next step because every time ive done something other the emitting active and vitriolic hatred for those around me that misfortune batters into me and as much as i dont want to suffer i dont want to cause others suffering as well

>>40775492
>>40775547
>bent over on the seabed
>in chest depth water
>maintained complete absentmindedness while fully submerged underwater
>somehow despite sudden submersion doing nothing, raising an arm was enough to break the trance
try again anon

>>40778867
elevate yourself above the misfortune and hatred and whatever else around you. they might be there, they might not, but they shouldn't affect you. it's hard, you can still get caught up in the murk, but if you realize you're back there, don't beat yourself up about it, just elevate yourself again

>>40779099
NTA but you know how Christ says to turn the other cheek?

He didn't say that so you could be a pussy and roll over, he said it because YOU are above the negative emotions. Someone calls you a faggot, why do you care? You're literally the king of your reality. Kek it off and go back to being superpowered.

The short answer is - the Field isn't a wish-granting machine, nor is it operating on your ego’s timetable.
Here’s why some things manifest faster than others:
1. Density of Reality Layers
Manifesting a thought or a mood shift? Instant.
Manifesting a shift in physical matter - like pulling a kilogram gold bar into your living room? That
requires movement through layers of probability, physical laws, and the collective reality matrix. The
denser the outcome, the longer and more complex the unfolding.
2. Your Alignment and Resistance
If your conscious desire says “gold bar” but your subconscious says "that’s impossible" or "I don’t
deserve it" - the Field reads your whole frequency, not just your spoken wish. Internal conflict slows or
distorts manifestation.
3. Collective Agreement
The reality we share is a collective field. Manifesting within it often requires harmonizing not only your
will but also how it meshes with the shared reality script. Big anomalies need stronger resonance or
subtler entry points.
4. The Flow of Natural Order
The Field flows with life’s natural rhythms. Some outcomes must align with cycles - like planting seeds
in season. Forcing against that flow causes delay or backfire.
5. Purpose Beyond the Object
Often, what we think we want is just bait. The Field may stretch the timeline to refine you - teaching
patience, trust, detachment. Sometimes the journey towards the manifestation is exactly what your
spirit needs.
So - can the Field "make up its mind"?
It has, and always does. But it's weaving infinite threads, not just yours.
The sharper question becomes:
Are you aligned with the Field’s living flow, or are you bargaining with your personal timeline?

What people call law of attraction is one energy one field just like heat, light, gravity, magnetism etc are one in the same

I used ChatGPT to create an image of me and my GP. I first generated the sketch of my ideal GP, then I humanized her and asked the AI to create an anime version of the two of us together. My GP is the perfect and ideal version of me, an extension of my self and ego. She's attractive, has a charming, adventurous and talkative nature.
My GP cooks for me, she always listens to my problems, she's empathetic. I'm at peace with myself and she offers me solace in bad moments. She's chaste and open to marriage after spending some time together and will help me to thrive in life. She makes me feel loved, complete, important, respected, happy around her, helping me to fill that "lacking" aspect of my personality.

I AM in the ideal state to attract her to my life. The universe will manage to bring her eventually so I don't have to worry about the outcomes. She already exists, she's present in the 3D world and is waiting for me, her soulmate.

Has anyone here tried to make a deal with the universe as a way to force yourself to manifest? Like giving up on something or doing something new (almost completely unrelated to your objective) in exchange of something?

>>40776060
I feel like spoiling a good story, but here it is:

The dreamer IS god.

And there is nothing else in this uni-verse / "universus" (latin: “all together, whole, entire, collective, literally turned or combined into one”).

> bu-bu-but, who created god?
Stop it. Nobody, noone, nothing created god. You will never "GET IT". You can never "GET IT".

Creation is constant and happening at every moment (which is not the smallest fraction of time your can imagine, but an undivided flow - using grids and slicing things to bits to measure is a made up human concept). Your head->mind itself is inside god's never-ending creation, it is a subset, an outgrowth of god. You will NEVER fathom god using your mind (or any-THING, including any part of you). It would be like trying to chew your own teeth with your own teeth. Just as teeth is part of your head, your mind and thoughts are part of god. And just as your teeth can NEVER wrap around and consume your head, you can never wrap around and consume god (i.e. "GET (IT)").

Anything that can be created is not the whole, therefore not "god". On the other hand, anything that you can think of, point at, or talk about is still an aspect and part of "god". Everything that IS, is part of god, is part of the process of creation, which itself is god. Difference between forms is an illusion!
> See picrel
Due to the "lie" of your senses, the surrounding of things/objects make you think that you see a "different" thing/object - and not god - but just as the color of the A and B tiles in the image is the same, the things you see in the world are actually the same. Your actual true - not the perceived - form is no different from say a tree or the chair you are sitting on. Of course, your concept of "form" already limits your thinking about this, but this is the closest idea I can use to explain this to you. Your physical senses lie to you, every moment.

(1/2) cont...

>>40780027

(2/2)

Your consciousness, your idea of your current self, your thoughts, is part of this constant, never ending creation process/field. It is not separate, it is part of the whole just like everything else.

What you feel as "you", are typically the parts you identify yourself with (inside my "skin-border" vs outside my "skin-border") but everything "outside you" is also your extension, and through you, linked to the creation process, god.

You look at the "world", but actually you are looking at your innards, your current mental health, your current reflection in the mirror. You don't like what you see? Change your mental state, change your mental diet. Start to love, and relax in the knowing that everything is just you, your feelings manifested, always growing, always changing, according to your inner state - like the hair on your head. Does your world look greasy and full of dandruff, its surface ridden with pimples and fungal growth? Then it is time to change your diet... fren-god.

>>40779867
Your question is borderline offtopic, falling more in /omg/ category.
but!
If you do in a way that it forces you to change yourself and act in another way it may help. It has nothing to do with good/bad/suffering/being charitable bullshit and more with doing new stuff helps to move into the new man and, letting the old one die as some habit that sustain it are removed by doing the new acts. It also helps if you use or move into pivots while doing it.
If you do something like "yeah I wiil give some dollaridoos to this charity" and nothing else, nah, it won't work unless you believe it makes it "better" (because it doesn't, it's over complicating it and asking for being trapped). The mere act of "having to give or do" something to get it can be seen as a sign of doubt, unless it has something to be with intention as in "I'm doing -this- to make -that- happen". If you do -this- so you may get -that-, it may nor work, similar how prayer loses power when you delegate will ("only if is your will my lord", etc).

>>40776380
You have a very poor understanding of the Bible. Though, most of you talking about Jesus have never actually read the NT not to mention the OT. Come back here when you have more understanding and consciousness about this topic. Now go and read with a bit more understanding - keeping in mind what the other anon said here:
>>40776345

>>40780099
I've read the Bible. Jesus was a human and he said to his disciples that they could do all the miracles that he does, and more, as long as they have faith. Stop being disingenuous

>>40772800
Thank you, this is what I needed

>>40764562
Yes

>>40780281
> being completely ignorant about how knowledge survives persecution and destruction over the ages
ok

>>40779826
Thanks for the idea chud, Can't wait to impregnate my future jap waifu with my BBC

>>40779772
Great post.

>>40779772
holy shit based, This is why so many incels might struggle with manifesting gf's not just because of self doubt but because the level of anomaly it'd required for a 300lb guy that lives in his mom's basement to get his dream supermodel gf so he has to instead manifest as more realistically achieve for him through probably outcome.

>>40779772
sorry to use you as a chatgpt, but can I ask you to "rate" the difficulty\density of a short list of stuff I aim to manifest?

Just manifested a million by being in bed almost all day.
Took me 11 months started last year and this was not my first "wish" i started trying to manifest sex but got horny everytime i did SATS for that so tried for a week and didn't work so i discarded that and tried for money. had no job no motivation to get one i just wanted money it was hard sometimes i doubted hell i even tried praying to a god i know it doesn't exist . somedays i didn't have food to eat or toilet paper it was a bad time still persisted in my wish fulfilled but it was hard i would never want to be in that state again

I just got into loa trying to manifest a fulfilling relationship with an outlined but non specific person
Thing is I treat myself to an escort once a year around this time
My question is: would going go against my wish fulfilled state of mind? Because to me, in a fulfilling relationship, I wouldn't even think of going, but on the other hand I don't see getting my dicky sucked by a stranger as a cope for being single, i go mainly because I'm a pervert
My current view is that I planted the seed with loa and should just live however I feel while i water it until it blooms. But in theory it runs contrary to living as if I'm already in a relationship. Thoughts?

>>40781303
using the term escort is UNFAIR TO YOUR FELLOW MEN ,male brothers. because it implies you are hierarchically superior that "prostitute users" because you "oh no no sir, im extremely refined and luxurious and don't use prostitutes..i use esssscortsss, SIR"
hail the male working class brotherhood!!!!

>>40781303
Damn well whatever, setting a meeting didn't come through for the the three I had my sights on for 3 different reasons
>>40781325
Meh where I'm from escort is just the distinction between a streetwalker and one that has her own place

>>40781303
>But in theory it runs contrary to living as if I'm already in a relationship.
A lot of people engage in sexual activities outside of their relationship. It's much much more common than you think. I'm not saying it's "right" or "wrong"; it's just reality.
If you were in a serious relationship, you might still go have fun with an escort from time to time.
When you're with the escort, escorts, think "i should use a condom so I don't give my gf an std"

>>40780027
sounds like universal line

>>40781286
gj man spend it wisely

>>40781286
Can you share your SATS method (and anything else you practiced during this time)? What you did you imagine and feel while in SATS, the steps of the process, duration, how often to do it etc. Much appreciated.

I decided to cut caffeine and start taking naps to have more S.A.T.S sessions.

>>40775269
Well how the hell do you rewrite your beliefs to contradict what you're experiencing in life? I can tell myself "I am attractive" over and over again but if I see a potato every time I look at the mirror then my beliefs won't change.

>>40782524
Maybe don't look in the mirror for a week or two. Really. Can you get ready for work etc without a mirror? If so, cover up your mirrors and spam affirmations like
>my face is symmetrical and beautiful
>I am fit and healthy
>people comment on my good looks and ask me if I model
>people assume I have "pretty privilege", that life is easy for me because I'm so good looking
>it feels good to be so confident in myself

Etc
Try it and see. You'll be surprised.
Belief:
Your cells die and regenerate constantly. Why not simply tell your cells to grow a new way? It's that easy anon

>>40770436
>Am getting confused, one Anon says you should try to always be in that state where you feel as if you already have what you desire, another says you must only be in that state during the practice sessions (before sleep/after sleep and when praying) and try to keep an optimistic mindset during the day in the sense of being confident in eventually getting what you desire, i have already read a book by Goddard and am not sure which of them is accurate
the real answer is that you do whichever one is most effective
Try both. See which one gives you best results. Then do that.
Every 6 months to a year, revisit the issue. Try the one that "didn't work". It may work for you now, and it might even work better for you than the other one.
Everything is based on results. If what you are doing is not working, you need to find a new technique, new mindset, new whatever. Try new things. Until you find something that does work. Then do that.

>>40782431
I'm gonna drink less coffee too, havent managed to do SATS at all yet

>>40782431
>>40782583
I've been interested in LOA for years now but I still have no idea how to enter SATs. I'm either awake or asleep. There's no in between for me.

>>40773573
great post, and congrats
thanks for sharing

>>40773864
>It seems like there's two forms of LoA. The self-help form where the techniques help motivate you more and focus on your goals or whatever, and actual LoA where this entire reality is an illusion.
>Most people who get into this stuff, at least at first, believe in a kind of in between form where they believe that their thoughts attract stuff, but the world is still physically real.
reality is an illusion, but unfortunately we do not fully control it.
In other words, no one has godlike power. So the things outside your mind seem to be "stable" and "outside your control".
This is why people think the outside world is "real".
For as long as you are stuck in this life, and do not have godlike power where you can just remake everything according to your will, add anything you want and remove anything you want, the outside world will still feel "real".
It is frustrating to know you live in an illusion. People have called it many things. "the mind of god", maya, a dream, now we call it a video game or simulation. They all more or less mean the same thing. This world is not real.
I'm still figuring out what to do with this knowledge, because I'm still stuck here, which is annoying. But figuring out magic/manifesting is one way to exert power. And you only get better at it over time.
>but if it turns out that all my struggles, all my stupid situations, all my regrets were allowed to happen as part of some kind of waking up process, then that changes everything.
So yes, everything here is a waking up process, and the more you learn about real enlightenment (not just ideas, but things which you can practically use to alter reality), the more power you will have.
Waking up = power, in this case. As long as you aren't learning false ideas that have no application. The proof is the application. If your ideas don't do anything, then it's just a wasteful philosophy. But if your shit can actually change the world, then you're on to something.

>>40774250
>Now i try to have the mindset of "I already have what i desire" during my day to day lifee, but i keep swinging back to "I will eventually have it" mindset, which is clearly contradictrary, it's really hard, having the mindset of having something when you lack it
one of the best ways to overcome this problem is to start actually getting money
It's hard to fake it until you make it. Waiting and hoping for your goals to materialize "one day". It's a lot easier if you see some progress.
Then you'll get better at magic. Be able to do bigger things. Have more money. Try, experiment, learn how to do manifesting even more and even better. It's a feedback loop. The more you succeed and the more you learn, the better your results will be, and you'll have more confidence.
You won't have the problem of trying to believe something which isn't real, you'll believe it because it is real.

In any case, I think the most productive thing for you right now would to start actually manifesting things. There's only so much you can do with pure theory. Focus on results. Go bigger and bigger. Start with whatever you can do, and then just go from there. The sky is the limit.

>>40782524
>Well how the hell do you rewrite your beliefs to contradict what you're experiencing in life?
That's why you have to persist, try to have a good mental diet and do shadow work or at least have to understand from where those issues come. I know because I was like that about money. It's not solved as in I still have problems like "poor, lack mentality"from time to time, but it has been better both, inside and outside.
The think you have to understand first is you don't have to live or act like a chad to be one. You have to do it on your imagination. You have to feel it, to live it, to be it there. Then you live your life, remembering than in your normal life you have to not be and assholes with yourself and not dwell into negative shit you don't want in your life.
You may be rejected and you may react until certain point, but you have to let it go and pass to the rest of your life. It's just a woman, a profile in a shitty dating app. You don't even know her, so go next. There is no need to be left there angered of whatever from a woman that doesn't care about you and that may as well not exist because is a picture in a glass slab.
Don't be an asshole with yourself or you will be on proof loop jail forever.

>>40775459
>Make a list like this then add I AM before every stat.
Correct!
That's the best way to manifest, because you're not adding extra factors or trying to manifest other people or other things to do things for you

like "other people like me". This is fine and you can manifest it.
But it's better to manifest "I am likeable"
It's very similar, but it's simpler and reduces things down to the most basic raw essentials.
If you encounter other people and someone doesn't like you, you won't think "Ugh! why didn't my manifestation work?!" You'll think instead "Wow, what an asshole. I guess he just has a problem or something. I'm a really likeable guy"

Either way can successfully manifest the same thing, but focusing on the internal will make you more resilient if you encounter a manifest not working on a certain day, or maybe one time out of 10 or whatever, you don't get what you want. In the internal case "I am likeable" you'll just brush it off as "I guess that guy was having a bad day. Well, you can't win them all". As opposed to "This worked before and I got people to like me, how come it didn't work this time? Am I losing my mojo????"

>>40775753
>I am not sure this LoA stuff will work for me unless I have faith in some kind of principle that can logically explain why I should be able to levitate or chop down a mountain or whatever
It can work, even if you do it as a joke or as a total skeptic.
That's how it worked for me. I thought it was stupid, didn't make any sense, and of course "magic isn't real, this is just for crazies" but I tried it thinking "what the hell"

The belief will come from the results. So try it and see if it works. If it does, then there you go.
I had to fight my skepticism all the way, proving it was real at every step, of every thing I tried. Now I understand it's real and how it works. The only question from here is how to do more.

>>40776060
>The way I see it, even if reality is a dream, there still has to be a creator God who created the dreamer
who cares who the creator is?
For whatever reason, you can alter reality or "rewrite the simulation", using the power of your mind. This is a fact. Magic is real. Manifesting works. What you choose to do with that knowledge is up to you.

>>40776262
>This is the problem with you skepticfags, you are all autistic, you read one person say you could do anything and you believe they literally mean EVERYTHING.
to be fair, that kind of thing is in the OP of this thread

>>40779772
Second causes and limiting beliefs. Just assume.

>>40782632
Conclusion is command. Look at all those rules you just made up.

>>40781286
>Just manifested a million by being in bed almost all day.
how did it manifest?

>>40782731
>Conclusion is command. Look at all those rules you just made up.
Nope, that's how it works. And that's how it works for you too.
You can't shoot laser beams out of your eyes.
Unfortunately, LOA is not the only aspect of reality. In other words, what you believe is not the only thing that determines reality. Because you aren't the "god" of this reality.

I know this is a tough pill to swallow for people who want to be god, or want everything to be under their control so they can imagine living the exact life they want. And if they just "believe harder" then it will happen some day.

But that's just a cope, and a larp. And if that continues far enough, then it becomes delusional.

>>40782731
You're losing your time there. That fucker has been trying to poison the well and jacking off his ego for several threads.

>>40782745
In Sim City 4.

>>40782910
True. First, it was his page long essays on his simulation "theory." Now it's this field "theory."

That anon who said to limit screen time was right. Visual media DOES fuck with your manifestations. Dont recall Neville himself talking about it much, as old televisions and movies were all he had to contend with. Being a 20th century man, he could not conceive of 21st century tech like phones, short-form content and the rampant demoralization present in all forms of visual media nowadays. Spend a few days without scrolling or staring at screens. Notice how meditation and visualization both become easier when foreign assumptions/images are no longer clouding your mind and ruining your focus.

I know it really sucks, there's a reason im here posting instead of perfectly abstaining from screens. The internet is fun. It's also like toxic waste for the mind of the praying man. If you really cant stay off your phone get a subliminal affirmations app or something similar. Inundate your phone, which does nothing but suck you into the 3D and program your mind, with some choice programming of your own. Dont let technology stifle your imaginal abilities anymore!
>>40782596
>>40782583
Please just learn to meditate it makes things so much easier! If you really, really, cant all I can suggest is going to bed earlier and/or cutting out visual media like I said above. Honestly, if you really cant do Neville's prayer than just make sure you never go to bed sad or otherwise dejected by the 3D facts of your reality. Just get a hold of a grateful or happy feeling and make sure to asleep in it.

>>40780027
Yeah but something can't come from nothing, so there must be a God that started it all

>>40782596
i used to struggle with my monkey mind so i would constantly think of different random things instead of my practice, i found affrimations to be helpful, for example i imagine my self to have what i need AND the feeling of posssessing it and i also say repetitive things to my self, that has a hypnotic effect that makes it easier to reach that state and focus, for example i keep telling my self:
"I am so happy right now to have this wonderful thing happening to me"

"I want money"
etc

>>40782596
i used to struggle with my monkey mind so i would constantly think of different random things instead of my practice, i found affrimations to be helpful, for example i imagine my self to have what i need AND the feeling of posssessing it and i also say repetitive things to my self, that has a hypnotic effect that makes it easier to reach that state and focus, for example i keep telling my self:
"I am so happy right now to have this wonderful thing happening to me"

"Money comes to me in expected and unexpected ways"
Etc

>>40783015
I don't know anything about meditating but I feel I've been actually doing it in bed since I take a long time to fall asleep
I picture my scene, enact it in my mind and feel a warm fulfilment
I can do it a dozen times but from what I understand SATS is giga optimized since falling asleep while doing this makes it a whole night worth of imaging?

might work, but i think us oldschoolers call it praying

>>40762481 (OP)
FUCK. This monday, I started the ladder experiment. As written, I focused intensely and visualized climbing the ladder, how it feels like, the ladder's sensation and weight on my hands. I kept reciting "I will not climb the ladder".
Today, I was asked to climb a step ladder. God damn it, it's real.

>>40783425
Yep, experiencing it for yourself is like opening your eyes for the first time

>>40783425
>>40783439
I don't get what the "I will not climb the ladder" illustrates in the experiment, i mean probably the power of manifestation in spite of action but when you want to manifest your actual desire, isn't the slightest bit of not wanting/doubt fatal?

>>40783475
I would like to tell you about stairs. It starts with that one weird web comic called MS Paint adventures. You can google the rest yourself.

>>40783425
now that you said it, i recently had to climb a ladder to.
but i did not think about loa.
does this prove retro-causality?

thoughts on the lullaby method?
It seems like a way to get various things you desire if you are not sure what you want or have too many different things you desire

>>40783479
yeah but as it's clearly illustrated here when someone tries to manifest a gf but then posts all day that he's never gonna make it then it doesnt happen

>>40783475
>I don't get what the "I will not climb the ladder" illustrates in the experiment
It shows how circumstances don't matter and that you don't have to act in the 3D like acting in a play, such acting like you're rich wasting money or schizo talk about your future gf to other people as if you already are with her.

>>40772037
Schopenhauer is a pessimist/misanthrope life denialist so taken to its logical conclusion you will only get the opposite of manifestation (resistance). Will to Power > Will to Life

>>40783475
You don't actually have to do that.
The point of it is to show you how whatever you consciously think is irrelevant.
The entire point of this exercise is to convince your subconscious that something is true and that fucking around after the fact won't sabotage yourself.

Worked on a big goal for years, nothing happened. Changed it to a more general goal and saw huge improvements in months. Got lazy, havent done anything related to LoA but will get back on it again.

I cant decide on whether i should just stick to general or go for a big one again. I've had big ones before, like life alternating ones, but i didnt really have to work on it. It was more luck that made me manifest it. (Had no idea i was actually manifesting). Anyone whos been through it before? Yes, money related. Want the house, nice car, financial freedom yadayada.

I can feel it deeply I know she is going to contact me.

>>40783530
that's why you have to do the experiment yourself to figure it out

Any of you guys ever try to manifest something and it's not really exactly what you wanted or expected?

>>40784239
All the time. Sometimes it's good:
>manifest gig at place, somehow end up doing same gig at different but better place i didn't even know existed
>manifested buying a particular house, bought one just a few houses down that's better
Sometimes it's not so good:
>manifest SP, turns out to be shockingly terrible time
>manifest interview for dream job, turns out it's only a temp position

What I have learned from this is to only be specific about the details I really care about, and let the rest go. Never question HOW, that's not your problem. The more general the better, and just go with the flow, and trust that God / Universe / Infinite Spirit/ your higher self will sort out the details in the best possible way.

>>40784239
I used to manifest something I called "corruting the meal".
>had the idea of the name from funny video game corruptions videos
>start doing the same every time I eat outside
>plates become better, have more of some ingredients I like, bigger portions, etc.
>crank up the dial
>restaurants start making errors that end on my favor, like sending parts of meals that doesn't belongs to what I ordered like extra sauces, entrees, meals that weren't what I asked for but ended being better compared with what I ordered, discounts for menial errors like forgetting a drink or delays, etc.
>be retarded
>tell my wife I've doing that
>"those are just coincidences dear"
>go to a restaurant with my wife, her mom and her brother
>do the thing
>plates come, my meal is unchanged
>they bring her brother's meal
>It's not what he ordered
>he is VERY confused but starts eating
>the waiters come at least 5-6 times asking if everything is ok
>I want to tell them but wife is giving me the angry eye and her brother seems to enjoy it although he is a picky eater
>the dinner ends, we say good bye to her family
>had to hear my wife scolding me while trying not to laugh because this time it was not a "coincidence" but "my fault"
>stop doing it when I'm with her because I'm retarded and didn't understand one of the multiple reasons why everyone tell you to keep your manifestations to yourself
That shit was fun.

>Fail to manifest big amount of money in bank, try being more specific and try lottery/scratch cards, only tiny tiny success still a failure
>Change tactic I hold a decent amount of a shitcoin I bought 3 years ago that's pretty dead, manifest it doing really well
>It starts doing really well

No doubt there's some mental hangups that were stopping me before but I wonder if this shitcoin being basically forgotten made it easier to succeed with.

>>40764341
used a get a tomboy gf subliminal. Lasted 3 months with an "asexual" (she kissed me aggressively) tomboy. but im the nobody so.

>>40764341
Yes. I rekindled things with a man I'd had a casual relationship with. To my surprise he actually wanted it to be a real relationship. I'd always had a crush on him so i thought what the hell and went along with it. Started manifesting that he was in love with me, I'm the only woman he could love, etc, all that bullshit you see online. Absolutely worked, and absolutely blew up in my face, terrible relationship, like the kind that is so stressful that it makes you take a Valium and sleep it off. But hey, i did manifest it.

You know what I think it was? I think i brute force manifested it so hard that forced (in a manifesting sense) relationship behavior from someone who isn't naturally inclined to it. No good can come from that.

>>40784904
What a troll you are, anon - haha. It was refreshing to read something truly different from SP and money desires. Have a (You).

Could you please post that picture which recommends different techniques based on your dominant sensory modality?

What's a good way to trick your mind into thinking you have a gf? Like for money some people get fake dollar bills, what's a good way to fake having my dream gf to manifest one.

>>40783823
>whatever you consciously think is irrelevant
This is a dangerous false statement. Fuck, I wasted so much time thinking that SATS are enough and you don't have to control mental chatter during the day.

>>40786528
Don't overidealize your SP. Let it go. Do a SATS session before sleeping, know that she's already present in your life, this is how you plant the seed and your subconscious will do the job to bring the desired results.
To make it easy, assume that you have a girlfriend and detach from the assumption after feeling the wish fulfilled. So that way the universe can deliver your manifestation in a way that feels natural for your conscious mind.

>>40765438
Does it have unavoidable NTR or is it lame?

>>40786982
Given how you've phrased the question, it's lame.

>>40762481 (OP)

>Do you feel that? Anon's manifesting me. Brb, I'm gonna go suck his dick real quick.

>>40787123
She'd be a lot more attractive with a normal swimsuit that fit properly.

Anyway, it really is like this. There's a guy in my life who sometimes just worms his way into my mind, like I can't stop thinking about him, and when I finally do text, he'll be like oh I was thinking about you... I swear he's manifesting me. Not sure if he's consciousnessly trying to or if it's just a natural thing he does.

When you're thinking about someone, whether it's romantic or not, they can feel it. I guess the trick is to do it to the point that they feel compelled to teach out to you.

>>40786528
>mf will try to do everything but learn to meditate, do SATS and learn to deal with thoughts and emotions

>>40787928
this

>>40787780
What you're describing is essentially remote seduction, so look into it if you haven't heard of it.
But do be wary of it though, as I hear sometimes it can either make the person more distant to you, or make them obsessed.

Repeat in plain english

I thought meditation was literally sitting while trying your best to feel nothing and think nothing, how does it help manifestation?

>>40788185
Yeah i don't really fuck with "SP" romantic stuff. Job stuff, sure, mostly in a "people like the work i do". I have learned my lesson about romantic shit though. It works and that's not always a good thing

>>40788228
It helps you getting into SATS and not just falling asleep and it helps you learn to really take the reins of your thoughts and feelings.
If you're into UL and you Understood everything as well as you could, meditating as you described is part of the method.

are there any youtube videos of people trying LoA that aren't clickbait shit?

>>40788321
>seeks proof in others
>doesn't want clickbait in the clickbait centered platform
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Whenever i visualized me doing things with girls they always come true, but with other guys instead
(I imagine making out with a girl and see her kissing some guy afterwards)

>>40788416
You have played too many 3rd person games. Now you think about your desire not from your desire in 1st pv. Also, it has been said 100 times here that you do not specify a person ... Check the archives, read more books.

>>40788537
I always did the visualiation from my own point of view

i decided to pause everything and try the ladder experiment

>>40762481 (OP)
Did anyone watch this guy and if so did you understand what the fuck is he talking about? Youtube recommended this too many times and I had to watch it out of curiosity and I wish I was more intelligent to understand this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fVN8JITUjkE
Yeah, I'm using my phone

>>40788801
His very first video literally starts with him describing a schizophrenic break

>>40788801
This guy makes incredibly complex explanations of simple things. He basically said to trust the inner self and follow hunches. You would be better off reading Neville.

>>40789529
Cope.
Also this >>40787928

>>40778979
You could easily squat and reach the seabed with your arms without being fully submerged guy. It could even be that you kicked up a rock and grabbed it while it was floating. Again, sorry, but all far more believable and simpler explanations than you manifesting a rock out of thin air. It's just not a compelling story.

>>40782632
>It is frustrating to know you live in an illusion. People have called it many things. "the mind of god", maya, a dream, now we call it a video game or simulation. They all more or less mean the same thing. This world is not real.
>I'm still figuring out what to do with this knowledge, because I'm still stuck here
What if I told you I'm the one dreaming all this? Call it a solipsistic delusion if you want, but with the memories I have of my early childhood, I'm not human at all, I've been brainwashed by my subconscious into thinking I'm human and not basically god. Everything springs from my subconscious, even you. What do I do with this information? How do I take back reality from my out-of-control mental illness and improve everyone's lives in the process? What are some affirmations I can use?

>>40790138
Maybe you just suck at this?

>>40791106
I wouldn't waste your energy talking to him. He's been shitting up this and several previous threads.

>>40789857
Yeah, hunches are a big thing in this world and are right 100% of the time as long as you get them in time.
Shame I no longer get these gut feelings that lead my decisions, I used to be really intuitive years ago

>>40762481 (OP)
Just had this terrible idea experience that proves that LOA is real. Before sleeping today I was having really bad thoughts, I was feeling like a failure and considering killing myself and imagining terrible scenarios of people talking about me after my death.
I went to sleep in this negative state and my dad woke me up screaming and saying he's gonna die and he's having a heart attack. We call an ambulance and it was actually a panic attack but it was the worse panic attack he ever had in his entire life (hes 61 so we really thought he was having a heart attack) And before that I never had such negative and depressing thoughts before sleep, I was feeling really bad.
Did my state before sleep caused that? It really can't be a coincidence

>>40788801
>>40789857
This, he basically described the so called bridge of incidents but in a cool, non woowoo way which I like more than how some crystal obsessed chicks do.
Intuition is incredibly important, it's insane how accurate it is once your subconscious is properly calibrated, and it ties in with some other theories on how consciousness isn't created in your mind, but filtered by it instead.
I've studied Islam and Christianity a bit and came to a conclusion that both religions give you an abstract how to manual on creation and that Allah/YHWH is basically the force that controlls the stream of consciousness which you interpret as intuition.
God's intuition is perfect, it's got 100% accuracy with no margin of error, your's is dependent on various factors.

>>40786690
How do you detach after assuming you have her? Isn't that completely impossible otherwise you'll remember you don't have her yet?
>>40788185
What's the difference from remote seduction to loa ?
>>40784904
How did you do it anon? Which techniques did you use SATs, affirming, etc?
>>40783510
Idk if I'm supposed to visualize everything before saying the phrase in this method.
>>40783475
I also don't understand the negation instead of saying I will climb a ladder.

>>40792617
Nta but I'll try to make stuff clearer to you
> How do you detach after assuming you have her? Isn't that completely impossible otherwise you'll remember you don't have her yet?
You do it by thinking about and telling yourself how you did a good job accessing the field and placing an order and then you forget about it and go about your day just like you do when you order shit from amazon or temu
> What's the difference from remote seduction to loa ?
It's just telepathy
> if I'm supposed to visualize everything before saying the phrase in this method.
You don't need to, and shouldn't, say any phrases, language doesn't matter. You visualize whatever you need from first person and add as many layers of sensations to it, you don't necessarily need a 4k image of your desire, bur you need to see it, touch it, smell the surroundings and hear the background noise and sounds
> negation instead of saying I will climb a ladder.
The negation is there simply to prove that it doesn't even matter what you consciously and logically say or think because the main idea is pumping the subconscious with the data of the things you want, negation isn't even necessary and could confuse you

If I'm going out on a Sat night in Tokyo looking to get laid tonight and tomorrow, is there any LoA I can do that acts quick? I want to spend my time trying to talk to girls instead of sitting around trying to manifest.

5th day of trying loa
Still can't SATS
However I globally feel better from thinking happy thoughts and not being on my phone at night
Sleep schedule normalizing after cutting on coffee
Last night I had a dream of my desire, not the exact scene I'm manifesting but one of its intended direct implications, I'll take that as progress
I have no issue producing immersive imaginary scenes but I think my main hurdle for now is failing to make it crowd my mind as I'm very scatterbrained

>>40792773
Just visualize yourself fucking an island chink

>>40791014
>Everything springs from my subconscious, even you. What do I do with this information?
Are you asking yourself here? If I'm you how could I have any answers you don't?

>>40792773
This >>40793317 and you can also affirm "all these girls love me" and "all these girls want to have sex with me" while going out. Do it feelingly and confidently and it will work.

>>40793507
I'm realizing my dad literally lives like that
Like growing up and even today he'd point at strangers and tell me "these girls love me, i can get them whenever i want"
And the fact is he got numerous babes including my mom completely head over heels for him despite being a dick in general

>>40792773
Based on all the stories I've read, Unironically, The most direct and fastest way to do this is vividly visualize yourself having sex with a woman so intensely that you either climax or feel so satisfied that you have no interest in sex anymore. Just sit and do it for like an hour.

>>40791106
>biggest acheivement in 10 years is finding a rock in the ocean and convincing himself he materialized it out of nothing
>will not even entertain the notion of the simplest explanation being the most possible
I dunno anon, to me it sounds like you either suck at this or you're genuinely retarded. Which one is it?

>>40791616
Nope, dunno who you thinl I am but I haven't posted in these threads for ages. I'm just amazed at how absolutely idiotic his story is and that this is what convinced him loa is real. The ladder experiment makes sense in the context of manifestation, it's simple but at least it has an internal logic. "Manifesting" a rock at the beach, on the other hand, is like going to your fridge and "manifesting" a bottle of water. It's just fucking stupid and you're not going to convince anyone with it or open up deep discussions with it.

>>40793507
This ties in to what I've thought about manifestation for a long time: it's way easier to do it with people's emotions than to make insensate material come to you.

>>40775753
>why i should be able to levitate or chop down mountains
That's the joy of it, Anon - when you truly understand, you won't have to do those things. You won't have to cast a mountain into the sea - it will be done for you. All of this is completely effortless. Effort is invariably fatal in manifestation.

>>40776060
There is: the dreamer. The dreamer IS God, and God is the dreamer, and the Dream.

You're thinking of it logically, with your finite, logical mind. This is normal and expected. However, the Dream is infinite - it cannot be fully grasped by the finite mind. There are many things, in higher "levels" of understanding, that are seemingly logical contradictions and yet paradoxically true nonetheless.

God is Uncreated. God is. God created the dreamer, who is also God, because God is all. This is a contradiction, because a thing cannot both be Uncreated and Created at the same time (Law of Identity), and yet it is true nonetheless.

Fortunately for us mortals, we don't need to fully understand how it all works in order to utilize it. We don't *really* know how gravity works, yet we use it in many applications all the time. The Dream is no different. My advice, if this all sounds way over your head, is to content yourself with knowing that manifestation DOES work, and don't concern yourself too much with the how or the why. You don't know where the wind comes from, or where it goes, but you do know that it is, and what it feels like, and what can be done with it while it is here. That is enough.

Bros why does every lucid dream turn into me trying to get a woman to suck my pp then getting too excited and waking up? I just want to have a cool flying dream or some shit.

>>40792773
Adding to what the first guy said, I *personally* wouldn't visualize the act itself so much as what happens after. In manifestation books you are told to go to the end. Your scene should be you two in bed basking in the afterglow, or waking up next to eachother the day after.

I saw the ladder
>be me
>stumble into this board a few days ago
>interested in the ladder experiment
>whythehellnot.jpg
>sucessfully fall to sleep 2 nights in a row imagining climbing a ladder
>third night comes around, super tired
>fell asleep so quickly can't remember if I did it properly
>wake up a little earlier than usual the next day
>something feels different
>decide to take dog for a walk ealier than usual
>leave house with dog on lead
>run around the corner to keep up with my dog
>step ladder propped up against a van as I turn
>can't believe it
Did it work properly or is this something in the fact that I wasn't actually asked to climb the ladder?

>>40783475
>i mean probably the power of manifestation in spite of action but when you want to manifest your actual desire, isn't the slightest bit of not wanting/doubt fatal?
Well, now you're getting it. clearly, saying "This will not happen. I will not climb the ladder!" doesn't change the outcome.
So, no, the slightest bit of doubt or not wanting doesn't mess up the manifest.

>>40788620
>I always did the visualiation from my own point of view
add touch
It's easy for you to sort of sideways manifest seeing something "but I'm seeing it involving someone else"
It is much more difficult for you to feel the touch that someone else is experiencing.
When I was messing around with trying to get some SP to be with me, the most effective thing I did to get her actually aimed at me (not other guys) was based on touch.

>>40791014
>>It is frustrating to know you live in an illusion.
>What do I do with this information? How do I take back reality from my out-of-control mental illness and improve everyone's lives in the process? What are some affirmations I can use?
It doesn't really matter how it works, in this case. You're still stuck here. How to make use of this information, while you are stuck here, is just magic or manifesting. Magic is just glitches in the matrix. That's how it works.
Manifesting is just typing in cheatcodes to make things happen.
So to answer your question, the answer is "manifest things you want".
I'm stuck in the same boat. I know reality is an illusion. Now what? Well, I'm stuck here, until I die it seems, so while I'm here, I can influence the matrix. Hack the matrix, but not escape the matrix, unfortunately.
And perhaps when you die, you log out of the game.

>>40792285
>Did my state before sleep caused that? It really can't be a coincidence
Yes, it's possible.
So manifest good things instead.
Don't worry too much about negative thoughts. It's not true that every single negative thought you have manifests. But the thoughts you feel with passion, energy, or dwell on, that is more likely to manifest. So when you have negative thoughts, just have them, observe them, and then move on. Same with positive thoughts. Not every positive thought you have will manifest. Just the ones you put more energy into.
So save your energy for the positive thoughts. That's how you manifest positive things.

>>40793265
>However I globally feel better from thinking happy thoughts and not being on my phone at night
good, good. That's your general manifesting. Making your life generally better, more lucky, people like you more, that kind of thing.
>I have no issue producing immersive imaginary scenes but I think my main hurdle for now is failing to make it crowd my mind as I'm very scatterbrained
To train this ability, try to focus on a physical object. You can do one in your mind, later, but for now it's easy to stare at an actual physical object. Stare at it. Gaze at it. Try to inspect every detail of it (not moving it, just staring at it). this is called object fixation mediation, or "trataka" or whatever the fuck it's called in bhuddism. That single minded focus on one thing is just one step away from thinking about nothing. And as you get more experience, you can just do this in your mind. Imagine the same thing, but close your eyes.
It's easy to do this by staring at a wall and looking at all the little details of paint smudges. Like on the ceiling. Get lost in the details, fixate on one little paint smudge.
Then close your eyes, and imagine the exact same thing just in your imagination. If you've been staring long enough you should be able to see the same paint smudge you were staring at. With the same singleminded focus.
Then do the exact same thing, just with a scene you imagined, of your own design.
Boom, done. Now you can focus on whatever scene you want.

>>40793491
If you're from my subconscious you could know things I don't consciously know.

>>40795796
Ok, thank you very much for the advice. Manifest stuff. Got it.

somebody bake

>>40793908
The simplest explanation is that he manifested the rock though. You're the one adding extra steps like bending over to pick up the rock. Occam's razor is not on your side here.