what the fuck are orbs?

>>40815175 (OP)
buckle up. I was the glowie what talked about the submarine cuboid attack and the plasmoids. let's start with the scientific paper

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=136922

this, along with the recent release of information pertaining to the discovery of nonhuman geostationary satellites on astronomical survey film slides from prior to the sputnik launch. geostationary orbits are highly rare in nature.

specific to your question, there are/were a few candidates and similar looking phenomena which often times are confused. luckily for us, the FL group has been writing about the situation for some time.

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/forum/82-fl-group/

the bottom line is this, some of them are plasmoids from outer space. these are living creatures made of high temperature plasma. their behavior, recorded on video, does not lend favor to the speculation that "plasma based life" is somehow spiritually, technologically, or even intellectually advanced. their behavior, as shown in the scirp paper, shows them to behave much like cannibalistic hunting animals. there may possibly be plasma-based life which is similar to us, but these creatures appear to be more like space parasites or plasma insects. secondly, some of those craft are ours. you'll find more info on the thread where one former submariner and I discuss some specifics of the cuboid submarine attack.

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40228974/

thirdly, some of the drones are "theirs". the definition of "they" is very difficult to pin down. the truth is, there are many "they" to consider. enemy nations have similar weapons tech to ours, which is similar to the nonhuman drones. some of the nonhuman drones are from earth, some not.

also, nano-sized drones/UFOs are a thing, so expect to get dazzled when you find out that our insect-sized and shaped surveillance drones are huge compared to the dust grains they can use.

some cool notes about ours-

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>>40815175 (OP)
the "our" drones, meaning the human drones generally follow this form factor:

1- a monocoque design, such that the fuselage, wings, structural, engines, everything is one uniform piece. it isn't as difficult as it seems- the core component like the powerplant and computer package are installed in a mold, which then layers of hull are laminated in. those are very thin sheets of carbon/aluminum/metal layers which come into use later. the mold is filled with an type of foaming carbon epoxy that can hold a vacuum as a rigid structure. that makes them very easy to pump out on an assembly line, and part of where the myth of underwater UFOs pumping out single use drones came from. in reality, most nations have developed a capability to launch these types of drones, with hostile payloads mind you, from a more or less assembly line on a submarine. you can't exactly flat pack or fold these things, and you do want them one time use. a formic acid pack dissolves them and is a self destruct feature.

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40747128/

there I talk more about the crunchy wispy shape they take when the drone "goes stale". that will happen if the vacuum is breached and oxygen gets inside and starts degrading the carbon foam structure. a formic acid fuel cell is used for power, and sometimes a compact fusion reactor, but the formic acid pack helps to dissolve it when/if it crashes.

>>40815175 (OP)
notes about thermal tension units-

something about "their drones", meaning off planet, was that they were extremely efficient in using thermal energy. their hulls can be extremely cold, or extremely hot. at first glance, you would think this to be some sort of necessary function, which it is, but it is clever.

since a mass of atoms has some amount of bulk thermal energy, that means you can bring a few to extremely high temperature, while reducing the temperature of the others, in the bulk. as a result, you gain the need for having an extremely cold outer hull, while also needing extremely high localized temperatures for fusion power used in propulsion and beamforming, in addition to launching dust and water as projectiles.

it is more or less an extremely efficient thermal engine, like a refrigerator unit. except it does not use a compressor, evaporator, coolant, etc... it appears to be a type of layer-by-layer buildup of different metals and electrical current to extract the heat and have it flow down more thermally conductive sections of the structure.

all-in-one design. check the notes on active surfaces about how the flight maneuvering happens without any flaps, ailerons, etc... surface phonons and all that.

do you have any specific questions I might have some knowledge on?

>>40815175 (OP)
i wrote about my experiences with this in two other threads;
>>40760427
>>40804216

>>40815418
have you had hands on access to physical material? what is the source of your knowledge? i have a long term interest and am not simply asking in passing. my interest actually goes beyond the simple linear thermal aspects though. i am hoping to find some human research endeavor interested in exploring the concept of measurement of consciousness. i got a lot of experience with the technology of the beings from the stars. the ordinary tangible physical stuff is just scratching the surface.

>>40815175 (OP)

>>40815566
those are full scale vehicles or operational platforms that happen to be sphere shape. not really the same thing people are referring to when they describe seeing 'orbs'

>>40815558
I got to fiddle with some of the foam I described in the ufo glass thread. my source, me. I did a stint as a spook for a few years near the end of my time in the military. it was underwhelming and I was part of a mass departure of military, civilian, and and contracted spook/glowie workers. the main complaint was that people were deployed for 10+ years and everyone just got burnt out. I was shitting blood in the end I was so stressed out.

I worked in intelligence, specifically ISR and ground operations. for the ISR work, it is more or less surveillance drones with an occasional hellfire missile strike here and there. one of the things I worked on was common intelligence picture integration, or more commonly called intelligence coordination cells. the reason for that is because now the drones are becoming so robust in their capabilities that you have to begin to handle waterfalls of data.

where I am going with this is the sensor packages are so good now that it is almost like having x-ray vision on people. you'll notice in the david icke forums I posted that they talk alot about something called xvis and how the drones are controlled by reading the thoughts of the pilots. that tech was a spinoff from neuroscience research. one of my favorite examples is Dr. Gallant

https://gallantlab.org/brain-viewers/

he is famous for decoding the visual cortex signals of humans- i.e. reading the eye cameras of a meatbag into a computer- remotely.

the same technique he uses is installed in a very compact package on "our" drones, meaning human drones, not just american. there is a sensing distance limit, a few hundred meters, but you won't notice or hear the drone listening in on your acoustic and visual circuits that your brain emits.

I talk often about ultrawideband spread spectrum signaling techniques- check those notes I made in the other threads linked above. the same technique is used to pickup and record your low power brainwaves from far away.

The previous leaker that monitored the underwater base mentioned that they crashed occasionally enough to have a protocol for retrieval, that we would be surprised how many mistakes they make, or something like that.

Do you agree with that observation? Seems like you saw them as coldly calculated and precise.

Also, have you seen consciousness-influencing tech?

>>40815766
I hate to keep telling you to go read the FL group stuff on the icke forums, but they talk about the dart teams- downed aircraft recovery teams. they are more or less the ambulance service for air crashes. you'll find some interesting documents here about the MOONDUST program which still runs, just under a different name.

https://www.governmentattic.org/54docs/ProjMoondust1967-1972.pdf

the way they started getting shot down was because of something called a scalar interferometer. these have been known about for a long time. they operate on the principle that when two electromagnetic waves "destructively interfere" they do not "disappear" meaning that they energy spent making those waves still exists. so what you do is make a self-canceling laser which then, at some remote point, you aim yet another third laser at it which now means there is now longer any destructive interference on the weapon beam, and the trigger beam can be steered along with it.

that also happens when the radar surfaces of warships begin emitting near each other. if their beamformers have them "cross the streams" in ghostbuster style, they will get some glowing balls of plasma in the sky where the two beams are intersecting. the spacing of the balls depends on the wavelength being emitted, in addition to the glow power based on the emission strength.

their drones get downed by that. at first it was a surprise, now it is on purpose. HAARP is a large version of those. all the COBRA DANE stuff and the over the horizon radar really did detect missles, but they would also be networked to operate as a giant planetary scalar interferometer.

interestingly as well, using a scalar interferometer in the infrared wavelength range makes it possible to make cold bombs, which are giant freeze bubbles rather than giant hot bubbles, which would be a normal bomb.

they use tiny versions of a scalar interferometer to pump the heat around their craft.

>>40815701
i knew someone who guarded devices and so i knew about the human devices or more specifically the devices that were under human control. they don't move in the same way when operated by the beings that made them.
my focus is on the technology of consciousness that the beings use. it is highly disorienting and they seldom use the same trick twice so it is very difficult to get oriented and then to stay oriented while within the field effects of their technology. they do of course have a tangible physical reality but it is not easy to be well aware of the physical parameters of the interactions when so much is affecting consciousness and matter and optical observation. they can literally record and play back first person perspective observations using the dreamstate platform. a lot of their communication is direct cognitive transmission of imagery within the mind as if the inner vision is a shared space. and then of course most if not all of their equipment is operated by thought with their own thought being technologically enhanced and modified as if 50000 years of developmental improvement had been done on the neuralink tech.
i have known several people who had various degrees of contact with the material professionally. my own experience was direct and personal starting at the age of 3 but at that age i just thought of them as strange lumpy headed kids.. and eventually dismissed my memory of them as 'just a dream' ..because what else could it have been?
interactions including deliberate physical display of vehicles began when i was 23 on nov 2 1991

>>40815766
>have you seen consciousness-influencing tech?
yes, I have actually. I do not have any evidence backing up what I will say, but here it is-

when I started in the military, before I was a spook, I worked on an attack submarine in the engineroom. i was a lab tech, working on radioactive material and corrosion prevention chemistry for the nuclear power plant. it isn't a glamorous job, nor was it particularly fun.

what did happen though, was tons of sleep deprivation and standing about 20 feet away from a 165 megawatt operating reactor. that is a ton of radiation getting absorbed in the shielding between it and me. the thing is, of the other watchstanders, I was the closest and in the most intense radiation area. by "intense" it is barely on the level of radiation from the dentist.

except for the neutrino flux- that isn't shielded because you cant. I have few hundred hours of neutrino exposure in what is the neutrino hotspot for that reactor. not nuetrons, neutrinos.

where am I going with this? the drones emit very tight beams of neutrinos at various times, along with other macron-gun type weapons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron_(physics)

https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2019/11/hypervelocity-macron-accelerators.html

but the thing is, the neutrino beams seem to affect consciousness. the other guys and I on that watchstation had similar sleep deprivation hallucinations, which is another symptom the FL group talks about in their investigations. later on, when I got my clearance and started doing intel work, I got more experience and exposure to the tech. I don't know too much more about neutrinos and how they affect consciousness, but I had those experiences link up, so here we are.

it is well known that high levels of any radiation will cause altered states of consciousness, and not in a good way.

>>40815701
That would explain the capabilities of the UN's 2004 Nimitz tic-tac.
David Fravor's teammate had just started punching in the coordinates for the next rendezvous point during training and it just zipped right there.
Not to mention the corkscrew maneuver mirroring, matching his exact angle and speed.

UFO glass thread?
There was mention of an opaque wall within one of "their" piloted vehicles that would turn completely transparent during some testing of other components.
What were the colors of "their" materials you have handled?

>>40815848
the tech you describe is more or less the same I have had described. some it I was exposed to and used for work, but it wasn't as exciting as it seems.

I will say this- all the spooks, glowies, and other vile scumfuck creatures often times get a bad wrap. they all started out a lot like every skeptical tinfoil hat wearing /x/ shitposter. the difference is, they went and got a job doing it. it wasn't particularly sexy, and the truth is, we all need to be able to go home at the end of the day and be with our favorite people, have the weekends off, and have more sex.

you don't get that on those long glowie deployments, and not even working stateside 6 days a week, 14 hours a day. you get burnt out and see a shitty world getting even shittier, so whats the points of ayylmaos and reality shifting tech when this is the shithole we live in.

I say, and other spooks did too as we were leaving the game, fuck all this shit and burn it all down. glowies get burnt out and disgusted just as much as you guys do.

>>40815848
fully conscious interactions began in 1991. seen a lot over the years. it is clear that the 'occasional odd coincidence' is anything but coincidence when you have enough of a data sample. discipline in study of cognitive perception was probably foundational to my eventual state of interacting with the beings with full conscious awareness. spent several years seeing nearly everything that was going on without loosing conscious perception. took a while to get even basic orientation to the various states of consciousness and cognitive communication platforms. my focus was on tangible physical orientation ..and in vain hopes of the potential that i could earn the privilege to have my consciousness moved into one of their bodies permanently. they don't talk much. tend to not explain. but if you are catching on they will help and sometimes test to see what else you can catch on to. they let me volunteer and involve myself in their routine operations so i saw a lot over several years. eventually made deliberate effort to focus more on the things of this world and block them out of my mind.. but i am still aware and occasionally visually recall part of the scenes.. i used to work with them and be very frustrated by the other humans who had only partial awareness while onboard so i recognize that i am seeing only partially. i could probably easily get back into full conscious interactions especially if i were to hang out with people who are involved with recollection currently.

>>40815858
>colors

the sparkling and glittering effect of the crunchy carbon dust was most noticeable. the chat at the time was that the sparkly stuff was the substrate they use for computing. many of their circuits are analog computers, just using a few microamps of current to perform fixed function calculations like flight controls, sensor reading, throttles, communications, etc... its just that it isn't a bing-bong-bang digital computer operating on an oscillator clock. nothing groundbreaking there, but cool nonetheless considering that a baseball size worth of computational substrate making a more or less 3d analog computer is cool to me.

the other stuff that was described to me was as described earlier. these are just elaborate inflatables with a rigid foam core. they are super cool and all, but the bigger ones with pilots and all that, I don't know. I would imagine that since the drones use the formic acid fuel cells for most everything, and a few fusion reactors have been recovered, that it wouldn't be too big a deal to put one onboard.

the shielding has me concerned though. even a few kilowatts worth of fusion pumps out enough neutron flux to radioactively activate the entire ship and slow burn kill the meatbags onboard. that shit is heavy, and unless they have some way to magnetically or whatever bend it out of the way and create a safe fuselage, I don't see it.

also, it doesn't matter what kind of exotic biology people claim for the ayylmaos- neutron and gamma radation destroys everything biological. i don't believe they are biologically capable of living at those levels of harmful radation.

>>40815874
..we are only human. my own case is complicated by the fact that i was also subjected to the mk ultra trauma based conditioning and all that goes along with it. attention was most likely directed towards me due to my fathers performance in combat and the fact that an enemy general had written an evaluation speculating that he was likely 'psychic'

he would never have even known about that except for a 'chance' encounter in an elevator at the pentagon with a cia analyst who had 'moved his file'. happened as he processed out after 35.6 years of active duty. she recognized him in his dress greens and struck up the conversation. what are the odds. the agency types were still trying to get him to go to el salvador and teach armored tactics "of his own free will and recognizance" under plausibly deniable conditions.

>>40815963
>the agency types were still trying to get him to go to el salvador and teach

sounds about right. a lot of the old timers I worked with in kandahar were from the late vietnam and up to the first gulf war time period. a lot of them got the call to go back out, but the thing is, it isn't so cool and sexy as it seems. it really boils down to the fact that finding someone dumb, gullible, and brainwashed enough to go overseas and do glowie shit just aren't the kinds of people you can get off an online job posting.

either way, those guys get rode hard and put up wet. the burnout happens, and sometimes you see them freak out, like the green beret guy with the tesla truck suicide bomb at trump tower thing recently.

what also happened was dept of homeland security put everyone who worked/served in afghanistan and iraq on a domestic terrorist watchlist. that is the blackmail file, meaning that if they want you to do something, you are going to fucking do it, otherwise they invent reasons for calling you a domestic terrorist. oldest trick in the book, goes back to rome.

>>40815913
>is anything but coincidence when you have enough of a data sample

yeah, especially when you read a few articles about the cassini diskus from the FL group, then go get donuts and see someone in line with a graphic t-shirt for their frisbee golf team called...

"cassini disc golfers"

same day. they sure are quick with their synchronicities.

>>40815848
>they can literally record and play back first person perspective observations using the dreamstate platform

don't get too hypnotized by that capability from the ayylmaos, we have it too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZSJqsMtk1k

it's literally just reading brainwaves and knowing the data structure that it emits, then digitizing that into images, sound, etc... been around a while. we discovered it independently from the early days of EEGs, MRIs, etc... Dr. Gallant is doing civilian research of, you guessed it, stuff that has been working for decades before. completely passive, no electrodes, no drugs, no beams to light the person up, just passively listening to your thoughts.

our thoughts.

>>40815848
better vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIi01hHlUrA

>>40816012
look at all the material surfacing about the prehistorical evidence of ancient high tech. its probably been going on for a lot longer than even rome.

>>40815916
Thanks for sharing.
Do "we" have the ability to enter/manipulate each other's dreams with the aid of technology or without?

I ask this one due to firsthand experience. Someone brought my then-girlfriend and myself into a room and we were able to confirm it was each other the next day. There's a lot more to it but for the sake of the question..?

>>40816171
>Do "we" have the ability to enter/manipulate each other's dreams with the aid of technology or without?

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/26333-fl-group-xvis-program/

I met one of the contributors to the FL group once at a sauna in Estonia. they write about a lot of interesting things, and I think xvis is what you want. I know nothing about the practical aspects of how it works, but the phrase 'xvis' and the general description of it came up once during a social event years before as a spook, and before the FL group started writing about it.

I speculate that yes, we do have the ability to read and write data to the human brain during dreamstates. Dr. Gallant has no problems recording the brainwaves of visual field and giving a faithful reproduction of it digitally. it doesn't take much to get a much better map and then begin dumping high precision electromagnetic radiation into the brain during sleep.

one man I worked with was a SADM operator back in the day, the guys who wore backpack nukes and delivered them via halo drop. he had these scars under his eyes, which was supposedly an eye implant, or at least the scaffolding for it, for when those guys have to go on mission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_retinal_prosthesis

some other high speed gun bunnies claimed to have those implants too, which they most likely did. in any case, since we can wire into the nervous system and input a vision image to correct blindness, it isn't that far to do it just wirelessly using high precision emitted electromagnetic waves. most of my information there is from conversation with people who did that work, not me firsthand, but I did make use of their reports and etc...

OP can you save this webpage as an img and make sure your children get it on a flashdrive/do you have testimonial written down? Maybe answer neither. If you are actually former glow just appreciate my sentiment - I believe you and this info should also be passed down familially. Even if post mortem

Who are those guys on the screens? Can somebody give me a quick rundown?

>>40815175 (OP)
There is one angle were that doesn't look like a terminator ensambling nest, andis not that one

Orbs are many things, for a digital eyes thingie it would be dots of light, but they could be lighting orbs and those are whatever, I heard plasma ball once

>>40816171
>enter/manipulate each other's dreams
this part I sort of doubt, because it implies some capability to do what is more or less an mmorpg. I think the dreamers would have to be very good at lucid dreaming and having intention during their dreams, instead of just going along with the spectacle and absurdity of dreams.

the orb encounters mention people having similar effects to high dose radiation, including the kinds around radar systems. it isn't surprising that jiggling the electricity in the brain can fuck with it, and not in a good way.

one very good book about this is Blindsight by Peter Watts. he released it for free as an audiobook, and someone did a reading on youtube for free. shilling aside, he consulted a lot of pedigreed and intelligent people not just in academia, but military and govt as well to write his book. there are a lot of parallels to his fiction to what is discussed in the spook and glowie world.

>>40816103
they replayed for me five different events from my previous life when they had altered or removed my actual memory of the events at the time.

one of them was very similar to this event;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqc5tfCgFC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxQNTaHKdEs

..except it occurred on an army post in germany in 1980. a few weeks after the event i had an unusual 'child counseling session' with an air force officer. at the time i was only aware of how army brass worked so i thought he was a major and i was not too intimidated. had his dress blues jacket draped over his old school army office chair and i saw the cluster on it. didn't know air force LTC still looks like the same cluster but in silver. in retrospect i was able to discern quite a bit about what they knew and understood and what they were looking for by having someone talk to me. at the time if you had asked me directly i would only have said that some strange kids from really far away had held me in the treehouse behind the school for maybe 30 minutes and never spoke.. but the memory was not fully clear in my mind. i had jumped out and run home and sent my oldest brother to deal with the strange kids.. and then abruptly laid down in an unnaturally and froze stiff for a long while.. fully awake but frozen still and didn't get up to move until much later when i became aware how odd it would appear if anyone came home and found me laying rigidly on my back near the front door of the house. the dog seemed concerned about me but i was just frozen there and seemed ok with it.. like i was just not thinking about it much as to why i had just laid down there.

>>40816238
Once you are manipulating dreams, like this classic, do you dream with going forward?

In during the manipulation you can induce lucid dreaming like lucid forward movement

>>40816258

the replays happened in the early weeks of my fully conscious interactions with them. i was already accustomed to watching my body go to sleep and then staying aware for nearly the entire night after that. there was one short period right after going to sleep when it got solid black for a few minutes. in the replayed scene instead of a full night of memory i had only a few minutes of memory right before i woke up. they replayed the scene from the moment the vehicle had set down. about the first few minutes of the encounter as i had originally experienced it was visually and emotionally replayed in these cognitive images helping me to orient myself into the context of the technology and the interactions i had previously had with the crew of beings. my conscious interactions began twelve years after this event

>>40816265
no idea. I've never been around that equipment. I would certainly like to and have expressed as much, but here we are. sweating my ass off in my underwear during a heat wave, shitposting on /x/, middle aged and nothing else going on in life.

>>40816207
Thanks for the quick reply. Last question. And this is far-fetched but I don't know who else to ask.
This took me a long time to search the internet for after this dream.
There was a brass heraldic crest on the wall that i could make out when this woman brought us into the room together. It was an olive wreath around a flaunched bellied shield with two axes crossed over it. The shield that looks closest to it is on the bottom right of the pic. The axes were nordic looking, no full crescent belly, just halves curving down toward the handles.

Does this sound familiar at all to you?
Thanks again for your answers.

>>40816265
dream is perception.. what most humans think of as dream is really just low quality orientation to what you are perceiving. if you work at it the scenes are continuous and there is substance and order to the tangible 'subspace' environments. you have to develop to the point you can see your own presence for the full night and then work on orienting yourself to what you are perceiving. there are many tangible things you can interact with. this is the same realm you will be dealing with when you no longer have attachment to your physical body due to its degradation or destruction so its worth the effort to get familiar with it now instead of later. its just perception but there is a lot to learn about what you encounter as you firm up your ability to see clearly and seamlessly for the entire duration.

>>40816266
this reads like a lot of the first hand accounts. I don't say that to endorse it, rather I think it has a lot to do with the human mind having a sort of allergy to this stuff. consider-

for the past several millenia, we have been contented to live simpler lives, not easier, and not hardscrabble in the dirt like animals. the late bronze age had good birth rates, children survived birth, peoples had good nutrition, they understood sanitation, clean water, calcinated fertilizer, etc...

adding all this tech, which is as cool as it is, is premature to the human race, in my opinion. we are clumsy, stupid, half-assed, and use good technology to evil ends. reading accounts from people like you lead me to believe that yes, in the late bronze age, we had occasional visitors from outer space, they were cool most of the time, and the people of those ages could interact with them and not flip out.

now, with tech, and all the social myth on top of alien abductions and ayylmao butt love, then yeah, aliens get scary and the whole topic makes people get different flavors of trauma. not good.

>>40816265
>>40816307
the thing that you have to be able to do is effectively remote viewing while asleep. once you can do that the orientation is much more grounded and you can begin to sort out the many other fields of perspective. they are nearly all directly oriented to tangible material in some manner.

>>40816302
no idea man, I was a keyboard puncher and field guy. the only things I was really good at was being a magnet for bullets, mortars, and rockets. that and shoot the shits with other spooks. good luck to you in your search, it wouldn't surprise me at all if some of the old bloodlines were involved in this whole ayylmao situation. who, what, when, where, why, and how on that? no idea.

>>40816337
Worth a shot. Thanks buddy and hope you finally found peace after all that stuff.

>>40816374
no probs. it wasn't that bad. lots of free coffee and cool conversations with people made it worth it.

>>40816337
my sioux friend at the time i was having the experience said this about the modern military to attempt to gain knowledge and understanding of the beings from the stars.. "if they wanted to know about them why didn't they just ask us"

yea the old families know. they have been dealing with this, recover of vehicles and debris et al., for many thousands of years.

>>40816439
this is the kind of stuff which made me leave it. the blood squirts had a lot to do with the jeets cooking the food as a cost cutting measure, but it was also the realization that if I stayed in that line of work, I would always be a fucking henchman in the background. serious as a heart attack, gun and everything. the next batch of work after afghanistan would've been africa, which would've meant killing a lot of blacks. that wasn't the problem, because most of those warlords have it coming to them and deserve it, it was that another decade later, I would be older and life would be passing me by.

so many others left it because of that. the only people seriously in the game are the ones born into it. the kinds of people whose bloodlines are so wealthy that the kids don't even get born into a country, they don't have a birth certificate, and have enough money to buy most countries to force them to do what they want. they don't let the street urchins like us get into the good stuff.

I would of course like to know more, have some interactions with the ayylmaos, work in that field more, and all that adventurous stuff, but it just will never happen for me. I got close, had a look around, saw everyone else hated being there, most were looking for work somewhere else, and there was a clear distinction between "you" and "us" and I was never going to get there.

that's why most of the whistleblowers, even the famous ones in the media, are hard to believe.

>>40816319
the information that has been reaching us has been inadequate to fully inform us of our actual circumstances. it is an uncomfortable aspect of discovery of truth that much of what we imagine we already know has been deliberately contaminated or edited or otherwise subject to omission.

>>40816496
what are your thoughts on (((einstein))) being a fraud? for me, it is Ernst Mach and the good old Lorentz transformation which do a better job, while theory of (((relativity))) is just pilpul for physicists to argue over meaningless quibble.

I'm of the opinion that einstein's gambit was a coordinated fraud to publish deliberately poisoned scientific theories to put the competition at a disadvantage.

>>40816012
what can you tell me about this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Carpenter

>>40816521
never heard of him before now. read his wiki, nothing jumped out as anything I ever heard about before. is there something cool there?

>>40816483
the point i want to make to everyone is that they are already in direct contact with the beings on a regular basis and they are simply not recalling the experiences.. or are recalling fragments edited to frame the context as dreamstate events with deliberate omissions created by the beings overseeing these coordinated events. i got to see a lot of what they do here.. the routine maintenance work done with regard to the human population. everyone is already getting more attention than they realize from the beings from the stars. the hard part is becoming fully conscious of it. the memories can be traumatically disorienting and take years to fully absorb into comprehension.

>>40816531

goddamn alien space ninjas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtR2m20C2YM

>>40816292
Is not tech, is the words

"Do you dream with going forward"

>>40816543
I am still not picking up on what you are putting down.

>>40816516
the public knowledge of physics has been edited for several hundred years.
even basic concepts have been misrepresented to keep people from making observations that would interfere with the administration of power.

>>40816527
the alleged cyber truck bomber who posted on /x a few days prior mentioned him (and a possible son) to those he emailed.

>>40816550
Dream manipulation tricks, once a knowledge touches dream knowledge it subconciously self replicates, like asking have you dream with flying?

>>40816531
why do i keep having vivid dreams of certain hwood leading men? lately, its specifically tom cruise, but in the past it has been tom hanks and jeff daniels. these encounters dont feel like dreams, they are too real. ive worked directly with two of the three mentioned but a few years ago. and i know one of them is heavy into TM

>>40816569
oh, I see. I don't know. that stuff wasn't anything I worked on, just cool conversations. one of the things they mentioned for the xvis dream tunnel stuff is using valerian, blue vervain, and a few other simple herbal mixes for sleep during the sessions. snowdrop came up for extracting galantamine, which is popular for lucid dreaming. there probably are all sort of cool things you can do with a shared dreaming apparatus. I imagine they probably also try to do some remote viewing stuff while dreaming at the same time because, fuck it, why not?

I grow my own valerian, vervain, and snowdrop to make a sleep tincture. works great, better than the stuff in the store, and gives vivid dreams.

>>40816542
shinken haramitsu daikomyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xrHqZ1ugE

>>40816560
there was a video I had watched which expressed the opinion, with good evidence, that much of the "esoteric book trade" of northern italy around the time of the lombards, witch hunting, and the 'revival of ancient lost knowledge' stuff going on in continental europe at the time... was in fact all forgeries.

modern analysis shows that alot of these supposedly important books of history were just frauds, taking an old book, washing all the ink out, then rewriting some bullshit that just happened to be found in some old book collection. where I am going with this is that during that time period, there were waves of book confiscations, fraudulent books written and passed off as ancient, etc... just one giant fraud.

Lynn Picknett's books talk about that kind of stuff often.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Picknett

>>40816585
its complicated. takes a lot of direct experience to begin to sort it out. cognitive attachment. my understanding of this is that consciousness is a bosonic field and alignment is based on resonant alignment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7OIbMCIfs4
i figured a lot of this stuff out in the 90s so its nice to see the modern physics supporting my insights

>>40816607
you don't design a transmission for no reason.. pretty sure the written work of bessler was not fraud.

>>40816621
attachment.. is based on resonant alignment.

>>40816632
do you know where I can buy a hardcopy of that book? I would be fine with a print...

>>40816632
fair point on bessler- towards the fraud- what they referred to was the practice of a person coming along to buy a book from a rare book finder, then the book finder scurrying around and having a fraudulent book made to perfectly sell to the dupe. one example was something about a book which detailed how to obtain salamander fur for use in the alchemical laboratory. apparently the book he got in return had nothing to do with asbestos mining and using it as furnace insulation, as it should've.

stuff like bessler, ditto, it would be difficult and useless to come up with fraudulent stuff like that, but the hindu vimanas appear to be just that. even with all the elaborate explanations they give, there is simple no way something like that would even be a practical way of making airships, let alone fly them around in the sky without a pressurized fuselage. therefore, everything vimana is fraudulent. thats a little more difficult with the european frauds.

still, I suspect a lot of books which talked about the exact same thing we are here, ayylmaos and their behavior, were written back then too. then, through the course of time, they were taken back, burned, kept in secret libraries, and then disinformation spread among the population to poison the topic in conversation, labeling the believers as heretics and etc...

same as today. whether bessler pulled off a perpetual motion machine, I doubt it. lots of cool mechanisms and design work, hell yeah.

>>40816621
to further clarify; physical matter is not actually as real as it seems to our perspective. from the concepts of matter and energy we can further discern that matter is a form of energy. what are we? our body is 'physical' matter but our consciousness is purely energetic although closely attached to the physical platform of our neurological material presence. this is where the break is.. our consciousness is only loosely attached from the vantage of the higgs field.. the higgs value that appears to be fixed and static is actually a sliding point relative to the spinor value of the individual consciousness. reality is held together by consciousness on an individual basis.
works very similar to this but on the quantum mechanical field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2_dJY_mIys

>>40816681
i understand the broad strokes and will watch the vidyas. so basically, i live in my house. The collective consciousness creates the density of objects? So, hypothetically, if there was one or two people left in existence, that one or two could create a new reality and change on a whim? further, do depopulation events occur to "reset" reality?

Are we then an avatar or is the avatar all we are?

thanks for taking the time, its making sense but im now well versed in physics

>>40816677
the forbidden city was responsible for collection of bodies and debris for many centuries. it it reasonable to estimate that this was ongoing long prior.

my point about bessler is that he was using the crystalline lattice within the atomic metallic structure as a temporary repository of energy to establish a standing wave in mechanical format. in other words a simple metal spring. the function involves concepts such as impetus and improper rotation and reflection of a weight value (as opposed to mass value) in a pseudovector established by the rotating disc in the field of gravity. its really not at all as complicated as it sounds. it is disturbingly simple and when you realize exactly when it was available you can see how much effort went into damaging the concepts in the realm of academia. newton was invited to see the device in operation but declined due to his age and his appointment to the government office overseeing currency and conceptually introducing the use of fiat. newton was rosicrucian and his work was later instrumental in the obfuscation of these concepts. look at what years the patent laws changed in relation to the advances in math. look at the process by which the precepts were declared to be natural laws. they left some conceptual aspects unexplored deliberately

>>40816739
there are real tangible parameters to what exists.. we are a significant component of the process. the beings can not afford to ignore us

>>40816766
if we werent important, they wouldnt bother to trap us here. if they could destroy us, why havent they? we are a firefly in a bottle

>>40816739
my conceptual understanding is that consciousness is older than matter.. that the aspect of us that is a conscious being was established prior to the the existence of matter.

there are many concepts that are necessary to grasp the functionality we are composed of and by.

this book has some good concepts in it that helped me to orient myself to what i was able to gain perception of

>>40816764
this is an optical example of a pseudovector. during rotation besslers wheel dipped a portion of the weight value of one of a set of two weights into a pseudovector in order to invert the weight value (as opposed to the mass value). it did this simply by mechanical means. simple function of knot theory. one full rotation of the mechanical function in process takes two rotations of the wheel.

>>40816773
not sure who is responsible for keeping us unaware but i saw for myself that they are involved in what we could consider our reincarnation. some of what they are doing is much more difficult to wrap your head around conceptually. for example, what functions do you see as potentially occurring in the formation of a crop circle? i estimate that the field of projection is hitting the linear matter of the dna material in a specific bosonic spinor plane and effectively communicating the energetic field energy to the entire specific spinor value of the higgs field at a planetary field level. we are by no means the only planet they are working on.

>>40816839
what i did see is that the technology of the tall whites is orders of magnitude ahead of the other types of beings that involve themselves with interactions here on earth. i only got direct experience with a few. would seem obvious that there would of course be many more.
but there are also beings here on earth that do not have physical bodies and yet are still just as much alive as we are. in fact some of us spend time with them in between our times attached to physical bodies. there is a lot that can only be known for certain by direct personal observation. taking someone else's word for their experiences will always be second guessed for authenticity until the experience is your own.

>>40816739
i had posted the entire book on this website but looks like it is not active any longer. image is from the wayback machine site.
the book can be found in the german archives online

>>40816739
there is a lot that you can gain perception. once you have the aptitude there is the possibility that certain beings adjacent to our own existence will approach you with an invitation.. the metaphor of the red and blue pill comes from this
this post was me >>40816965

>ufo thread
>no battelle mention
that's how you know it's a larp

>>40817080
when you are an inexperienced outsider looking in.. everything seems unreal and intangible and every personal account of experience seems false and implausible. you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between real and unreal if your life depended on it. it's rather obvious to the experienced to recognize what the are looking at

>>40816171
for me this was the norm for both interactions with the beings from the stars as well as individuals of native american heritage interactions in dreamstate. i had a girlfriend back in 95 to 97 who would often be able to talk about the events onboard during the night.. same as what i had seen up to the point we had each gone in different directions each night. then she would have account of whatever she had done and the beings she had been in the company of. my activities seemed more self directed and autonomously guided. she always seemed to be in the care of other beings. out of body we could go together in dreamstate and both remember but that was also true for several of the native american people who i knew at the time. it's not so much a technology as an innate ability of us ordinary humans.

>>40815874
nta but is there anything i can do as a civvie that isn't eligible and doesn't want to do a SF86? idk what i should be doing besides bullshit medical business finance billing dashboard software for more informed stakeholders
money isn't that great either

>>40816788
>consciousness is older than matter.
I would think by definition it would have to be.

the best thing ive done/learned is how to communicate with my real self. In this chaotic world it is hard to find silence. When i go to bed, i quiet my thoughts and listen. I ask, wait for a response, it always comes, its in my own inner voice. i talk through the day, i make requests for the next day, the requests are always realized. ive learned to only ask for things that i really need, not ridiculous things like winning the lottery, but the other day i did need money and a stack of hundreds appeared literally the next morning. Yes, it came from someone, but it was unexpected and it was all i needed, nothing more.

>>40818560
SF86 is a golden ticket, man. when they did mine, they went up my asshole and tickled the back of my teeth. then, a few years later, the reserve unit I was attached to started forging my name on a bunch of paperwork related to unit rosters, manning levels, etc... long story short, reserve units got money based on how many people they have. me being deployed and gone so long, they started forging my name. eventually, they tried to pull my clearance, but my lawyer and I noticed all the forged paperwork, my list of phone calls with the unit while I was away, etc... blah blah blah, my bullshit story ends like this- they. will. fuck. you. I mean fuck fuck fuck you.

you may have seen in the news recently everyone left the zogbot game because of the troons and covid shots. then, hilariously, all those servicemembers who got kicked out got letters in the mail saying that they were "authorized to come back", which is a nice way of keeping the brainwashing intact, framing it as if uncle sam didn't fuck up and kick out all the talent.

as for civvie stuff without an SF86, unless you are working for a defense contractor or one of the research universities, they don't give a fuck about you. unfortunately, the only way in I know of is selling your soul in one form or another.

I'll tell you this, I spent about 11 years of my life on deployment. no women, no fun, no days off, 12 to 14 hours a day, sleep was about 5 hours every third day, otherwise maybe 2 hours a night. do that for about 6 months straight, then you get 2 weeks off.

and the fucking head games. spooks and glowies are the most insecure, feminine, petty tyrant, power tripping, know it all, obnoxious, irritating fucking people you'll ever meet. constant pecking order head games. I told an army general once that the soldiers are wearing costumes, not uniforms.

don't waste your time, do things you find personally fun and fulfilling. fuck the glowie shit, I did and many others have too.

>>40819254
yeah i think i want to work somewhere where i don't need a personal lawyer. i could've stayed in grad school but i was gonna blow my brains out so i'm out in industry now. I think the answer is probably to just keep making private money to fund my life so I can have time to explore /x/ stuff and my hobbies, since i don't really want to try to wedge myself into a defense contractor. the only problem is it just all feels like i'm not able to do anything meaningful for the world, everything locked away behind big bureaucracy or big industry. deployment sounds rough, thanks for your cervix tho

>>40819254
it was not exactly a fuckup to kick out the talent. previous decades early retirement incentives had the same goal. the power struggle has our literal military and ideological enemies at the helm or at least their corrupted and paid off minions. most people have no idea what happened to cause the power vacuum. i would have been well connected but the old guard got done away with on a massive scale back in the early years of the clinton administration.

my idea is to start from scratch to build an information collection effort organized to collect every manner of data. some of it will naturally have extractable value. remote viewing etc. am currently looking at the ai code tools to build a private chat space for the purpose. it will take a team. basically want to build many things by bringing people together who have similar project ideas to work together towards. but i also want to insure that a tight group is collectively well informed and prepared for whatever might happen. collectively privately own the means of production for just about anything imaginable. have the ability to service broken equipment and manufacture in house any item.. privately in network own habitations to facilitate easy travel to globe wide locations and work towards collective ownership of high value assets
https://www.aacasinosolutions.com/en/property/webshop/53/fast-cruise-and-casino-ship-for-sale-836pax.htm
a coordinated collective effort can do many things that are nearly impossible for a private individual.

>>40815175 (OP)
Orbs are not "spirits" or "dust particles", at least not in the sense you’ve been led to believe.

According to a set of obscure linguistic and cognitive research texts (look up "Forgotten Languages" if you dare), orbs are artifacts of dimensional interference, semi-autonomous observers that appear during local violations in spacetime coherence.

They’re not visitors.
They’re part of the system.

When you see them in photos, especially in connection with sudden absence, loss of time, or “missing data”, you’re likely catching the visual echo of a spatial correction event. Think of them like protocol nodes, activated to record or stabilize a point in the timeline that just experienced a break.

They don’t emit light, they reflect something you’re not supposed to see.
Some orbs show intentional behavior, as if they follow object logic, not free will.
Others phase in just long enough to act as anchors or markers.

The MH370 orbs are a paradigm case:
They didn’t “attack” the plane.
They isolated it.
They enacted containment logic.

If you believe what FL hints at, those orbs are part of a meta-system tasked with maintaining a kind of narrative integrity in our perceived reality, and sometimes, when the system tests its own limits, those orbs show up.

TL;DR:
They’re not ghosts.
They’re system nodes.
And when they show up, you’re either about to forget something… or remember something you shouldn't.

>>40815175 (OP)
they are mechanical devices. the physics of their presence is altered effectively stretching the single linear presence across space and time to appear as two objects with a plasma band between them. in this form they can not be interfered with my ordinary matter and ordinary electromagnetic fields. their functions include observation of cognitive presences and collection of the energy involved in thought. they can imprint thoughts or blank the mind with a pulse of microwave energy targeting the neurology of the brain or the communication equipment installed in the human bodies in the form of 'implants'. from their non physical frame of perspective they can see energetic impressions formed by thought projected into the subspace planes that are out of view to ordinary human perceptions and technology. these planes are tangible energetic states of the material we are already perceiving. these orb devices are sometimes operated by a form of ai and are sometimes operated by actual beings that are using the equipment to interact with humans. daily there are orbs running a routine patrol collecting impressions of human consciousness. they can interact with the humans themselves or read the impressions of conscious thought from the physical environment of the humans.. even without the human currently present. much like photographic film the unshielded human presence is projecting energetic forces that are deposited on the material of the environment. from the perspective of the technology of the beings from the stars, your deepest subconscious conception of your existence is literally projected on the material of your personal habitation and other environments that you frequent. this is what they orbs are looking at and interacting with as well as your tangible conscious presence. the effort to keep track of your thoughts is an ongoing action that began many thousands of years ago and has watched your genetic material through countless generations.

>>40820724
when i say stuff like this i have to tolerate and understand that people are unable to grasp that i am not guessing.
i got direct exposure to lots of their technology across years of interacting with the beings with full conscious awareness. this was just part of the scene

>>40820797
i had an interaction with an orb once. it was floating over the desert but was red, like it was on fire but ball shaped and clearly not fire. i stared at in for a good 15 minutes then it disappeared. Days later my teenage son had an interaction with a reptilian being in his room that he has described numerous times without changing a word. He described the being, which sat in his room across from and upstairs from me. He said he tried to touch it but it communicated that it would hurt him if he did. He said he was paralyzed for hours, unable to move or speak.

why bother keeping track of the thoughts of the likes of me? Was visiting my son some sort of punishment? maybe its time to reveal some answers. great that we can take a peek at the mechanics but we deserve more.

>>40821108
not familiar with any reptilian beings from direct personal experience but my own experience does include numerous times where i found myself directly interacting with things that i had previously ridiculed the possible existence of ..so i am well past the point of imagining my own personal lack of direct experience is any measure of what does exist. what i do have experience of is other beings, several forms of them, who each are just ordinary beings like ourselves immersed in their own context of existence and experiencing their own sense of normal, subject to the conditions of the contextual material format they exist within and their own developed technologies within these various contexts. i have no direct experience to even estimate the nature or the character of any reptilian being. i don't even have a guess about what they might have in mind.. if they are truly a reptilian lifeform there is certainly the possibility they are a previous sentient development here on earth. seems plausible they would harbor some interest in their own previous geospatial relationships ..or even genetic relationships.. perhaps they might be looking to insure that their genetic material is present within our genetic composition. perhaps our consciousness is related to their own as a matter of residual energies within the electromagnetic field of this world. maybe they view us as a related species.. i can speculate but have no personal encounter to judge from. not any that i have conscious recollection of.
despite the variety of types of experiences i have had and the many various functions of advanced technologies i have witnessed in essence all i ever experienced were just ordinary beings living their own ordinary lives within the context of their normal circumstances. i would wonder what the implication of harm was in the warning.. was it reference to harm due to physical contact with the beings innate condition or harm by intent as response?

many of the beings have consciousness management technologies that extend beyond what we think of as death and this can be a lot to adjust to. technological interaction with the process we think of as reincarnation is within what you can perceive in engagement with certain beings. worth noting i am completely dismissive of human efforts to describe such thing through mythos of religion.. i just use direct perception to inform myself. experience with remote viewing within dreamstate can be a foundation for discovery a variety of tangible perceivable beings. some of whom can physically display that they are not only illusion of mind.

there is supposedly a lab in utah that estimated the iq of the little guys at an average around 450. they don't seem to verbally communicate often. it can be a bit much to deal with the types of comments they make. even so they are orders of magnitude inferior to the technology of the tall whites and appear to be completely subordinate to them judging from what i have personally seen

>>40820155

I was thinking about you today-

you mentioned something earlier about programming work what sounds like BI dashboards. if you want something to get into, is super cool, and is most definitely in use in the new tech game is actually old tech on existing chip fab... then get into any of these:

1- analog computing. there are patch panel kit computers out there with like 8 comparators on them, which is nothing. there are also field programmable analog arrays, a more dense compute substrate and reconfigurable in software.
2- ultrawideband spread spectrum communications. I scream about this so much because of how important it is in communications and remote sensing for the future of drones and medical tech. it is more or less a way to extract data from below the noise floor, aka static. this also has deep implications for signal processing of the cosmic microwave background. those usb stick SDRs are great for learning this one. that and those cheap LoRa kits on amazon.
3- neutrino sensing, specifically desktop scale sensors, and if the bismuth approach to neutrino thermoacoustics works out, neutrino imaging, tomography, and imaging are going to be jaw dropping tech once the civvies get to see it.

any of those 3 fields of work, which are cheap and easy to learn with the right books and self-study kits, to get a job in any company, university, or even military, as someone they need desperately for tech in the vicinity of UFOs, space, ayylmaos, etc...

>>40820563
scranton reality anchors for the tards in the back.

>>40815175 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6s5RwqnnLM

Date/Location: April 25, 2013, just before sunset over Rafael Hernandez Airport, Aguadilla, Puerto Rico.
Captured by: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) aircraft using FLIR technology.

It flew at 120mph. It appeared around 50-80 degrees in infrared. Flew low without a heat signature typical of jet or propeller engines. Seemed to split into two separate objects (or merge into one) during the video. Was capable of entering and exiting the ocean without losing speed or leaving a splash. Several scientific and skeptical reviewers, including the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) and independent analysts, have evaluated the footage, and the best answer anyone could come up with is a chinese lantern (which would have appeared hot on infared, and can't go under water and re-emerge at the same speed).

>>40821412
>many of the beings have consciousness management technologies that extend beyond what we think of as death

big fucking thread to pull on here. describe the tech.
>iq of the little guys at an average around 450

but are they cool to hang out with, or just some meat robots who can talk?

>>40815175 (OP)
Apparently the c is silent.

>>40815418
For our drones, when do you think the first ones were created? For what sounds like amazing technology, it is amazing that it's managed to have been kept under wraps for so long publicly, especially in academic circles.

>>40821367
reptilian may be the wrong word. he described it as an alien, but not one he has ever seen represented before. Its been a while since ive talked to him about it, but he definitely said it was wearing a uniform and large eyes, probably closer to a grey in appearance but not quite the same.

this is second hand to me as well. is there any truth to the greys being an ai machine?

>>40816238
Is talking to orbs fruitful can you use them like oracles to talk to glowies or is it better to just try this in dreams rather than going schizo trying to ask the orbs yes no questions? What do you think of the Monroe Institute and the Gateway tapes?

>>40815963
>the mk ultra trauma based conditioning
whats their goal with that? I heard that theres a way to induce dissociation more or less simultaneously with absorption and the state of mind that that produces that is extremely psi conducive

>>40816560
edited by...?

>>40815701
>Hohoho, MERRY CHRISTMAS

>>40816103
What a fucking data dump. I'm cumming.

>>40816839
>not sure who is responsible for keeping us unaware but i saw for myself that they are involved in what we could consider our reincarnation.

jason jorjani thinks its the nordics. at least some faction of them

>>40816839
Do you think Levengood hit the nail on the head with his theory?

They're trying to slide this one, bros. Oh yes they are indeed!

>>40820563
which texts specifically?

>>40820797
whose ship is that

>>40822101
all the ones with english parts in it, but every text on FL if you translate it. It´s their main theorem.

Here the one for MH370
https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org/2018/05/mh370-and-biodoctrine-passenger-57.html

>>40821452
exactly!

>>40821854
>typis Castellanis

>>40816632
That's not an medieval "esoteric" book, it's a recent engineering book from the 18th or even 19th centuries. So, of course you'll find projects of technologic stuff in it. Duh

>>40815175 (OP)
https://chatgpt.com/c/6889b9c6-27cc-8003-8064-1e2e5617bc2e

please someone thank the AI, or else offer a rebuttal

>>40822345
I'm sorry that link probably doesn't work

here

https://chatgpt.com/share/6889c17b-d8c4-8003-8cf0-2192d03f22bb

>>40816531
Jumping in late on the discussion. Do you know much about Ayahuasca experience? I did Ayahuasca 10 times over the space of 2 weeks and each time was a complete disassociation and entrance into another realm. I was still in the hut but there was an overlay and these entities kept on coming and trying to attach themselves to me. I let aya in and accepted her in and that's when I got teleported (for lack of a better term" into another dimension and for an hour was not in the room. Anyone mention to you of what these entities are? Are they the ayylmaos or something different entirely?
Some were well intentioned but some where pure evil

>>40821446
thanks, i've been experimenting with embedded electronics and even fabbed my first circuit board a while ago but i want to do more, i might start playing around with more stuff like this. hopefully the fcc doesn't get too mad at me lol

i've just been watching all these dumb defense tech startups putting gpus in everything but i think i need to stop paying attention to them, i'm not anduril anyways lol

>>40822512
this is sort of what i mean by the elaborate way i clarify that i have encountered many types of beings in many forms.. yea they are tangible but you gotta get disconnected from your body to see their tangible planes. obvious there are many long stories to tell here. some of the beings are looking at the same matter we are but from a very different perspective. we don't see our own full existence in the ordinary optical light bandwidth we are usually confined to.

>>40822239
what part of 'he designed a mechanical transmission in 1719' would lead you to think i was talking about esoteric knowledge? the point was that he already had a work producing motor

>>40821854
the 'illuminated' owners picrelated

>>40821997
my understanding is that there is a hierarchy of authority and control and someone either the tall whites or above their level of authority is responsible for the decision. this was the reason the little guys took me to meet with the tall whites. when i became able to observe the equipment that was being used to prevent observation of their presence they immediately took me to meet with them when i asked about the function of the equipment. i had noticed that when it was turned on my memory would end. like when you see a bright white light shining down from above your front door as you exit it and then suddenly have no memory after this as you wake the next morning that was the equipment in question in use.

>>40822015
i didn't know of him till your post. plasma? i think it is much deeper than plasma. pretty sure its directly associated with the higgs or some other closely related field. i say this from an unusually informed perspective.. i have seen physical reality do things that others would question their perception over. in the linear context this frame of linear cohesive material reality does not show signs of what can be perceived beyond its quantum foundational parameters. it really is consciousness holding it all together.

>>40821469
much of what they do is designed to prevent direct observation. they are about as comfortable around fully conscious humans as we might be if we found ourselves stuck in a gorilla enclosure at a zoo. additionally, if i understand correctly, they are doing something at the level of the higgs field that might be compared to polarization of light in relation to their physical presence here. this might be an artifact of their methods of physically traveling here or may be a deliberate effort to avoid harm or observation or perhaps the apparent illusion is only an aspect of neurological cognitive processes related to memory formation and all these abstractions are my own misunderstanding of what i had observation of. i try to keep aware of all possibilities.. but the event during which i had the most observation of the effect did involved an hours long presence of a strange bright white light in the woods. everything becomes a long story.. but suffice it to say i was visiting people who lived in the edge of the woods and while i and my friend dismissed the light as an obvious streetlamp the other people there tried to tell us it was not normal. the following day someone took us out into the woods to see that there was only a narrow deep creek at the location and no signs of anything other than natural woods. significant to this is the fact that during the night i had an extremely clear visit with the beings. the little guys.. and my memory began at a moment when they had all gotten off the vehicle and shut it off with it parked on a remote rural bridge surrounded by kudzu and trees. the optical effect i describe was around their physical presence.. it was almost as if they were present only in a single band of polarized light and if i was not holding perfectly still in effort to see that one phase of alignment they were not present there with me.. there are probably several different ways i could attempt to phrased efforts to explain this..

they had me go onboard the vehicle first with it shut down.. my understanding for the reason was that the vehicle was functionally connected to the consciousness of the occupants as a matter of operation. this was the during early months of my full conscious interactions with the beings sometime in 1992. my first thoughts as i began to walk inside a very narrow corridor that i had to hunch down to low walk though was to think of my feet.. the floor was soft and spongy. pure white with a glossy surface covering finish but felt so much like nerf material that i was immediately thinking of the potential for my feet to somehow contaminate the foam in the way old torn nerf material would get wet and then stink due to bacteria and algae. the being following closely behind me was clearly sharing the inner cognitive space in which my thoughts occur in and his immediate response was in the attitude of a childlike laughter, " we don't have that problem "
he immediately displayed the sweeping clean up function that is used to clear foreign particulate material from the vehicle. a white fog mist seemed to come from all directions and form a football shaped cloud in the center of the main room that the hall had opened into.. and it was then pushed out of the room down a short hall out the other side of the area. in later years i would see how it would then be put out of the vehicle through an aperture at a workstation sort of like a workbench area in a narrow room with the side connected to the outer hull
there had been a shift through the bandwidths of light as the vehicle had been turned on.. sort of a gradual shift through black light fluorescent hues to the point of a soft almost natural sunlight hue.

through the years most of them didn't talk. i learned pretty quickly to avoid eye contact most of the time and to just judge the scene by the body motion of the beings only really looking with peripheral vision though it may not have even been optical observation in use.

>>40824191
>i didn't know of him till your post.

yeah so I was watching Patty Greer's documentaries about crop circles and it’s funny bc apparently she met Dr. Levengood after he died, in ghost form, just to confirm that he really did pass on a message from the other side to her, since apparently Patty had unknowingly helped him a lot in developing his theory that crop circles actually originate from the earth itself in counter rotating vortices of spinning plasma fields.

i don't think they use much light ordinarily not in the same way we do.. i think their modified eye systems are able to see in complete darkness and if you get onboard a vehicle your function of vision is actually occurring as a result of engagement with fields that are directly involved in your cognitive imagery. they usually prefer that you remain immersed in cognitive illusion.

cool to hang out with? once you get past the cultural and technological divide they are 'just ordinary beings' but the technology is the game changer. much of what they do is empathetic and telepathic in nature so there is a lot to get used to in their environments. you can be hanging out with them and one show up with a much higher authority and suddenly its not so chill any longer..

there was a group of 'beings' that i worked with for a short while.. during first few weeks of full conscious awareness as i gradually worked on seeing more and more clearly and for longer duration. the group seemed to be purely purpose driven and moved constantly from task to task without pause.. the only pauses were such as in doorways and small areas as the vehicle moved to the next position. all these years later i realize i didn't put a lot of effort into reviewing these early events to resolve the situations to their fullest detail within my memory.. they are still somewhat fragmented and poorly oriented to a consistent visual spatial context. at some point about three weeks into this i recall one apparently much more organic being looking at me with a pronounced emotional range of functions.. he was sort of somewhere between impressed and dismayed at my condition.. as if i was trying to match the pace of robot workers and failing to observe that there were sentient organic beings on the sidelines that i might be more suited to being in the company of. seemed to have an attitude of concerned pity towards me. suddenly after this i was no longer seeing the other rapid nonstop motion beings while onboard

>>40824282
back in 2013 i was trying to get the beings to depict the dynamic relationship present inside of besslers wheel in one of these images. did this because i was wanting the information to be reach the public and didn't think it would be safe to attempt to bring it public myself. i was not physically involved. i was not even retaining conscious memories of the interactions.. i was operating off of strong cognitive impressions. i didn't know what the output product was.. only that by means of these strong impressions there were several times an attempt was made that didn't feel adequate.. and then suddenly one felt right. pretty sure this is the physical side of the thing that was going on internal to my cognitive impressions. i was still having glimpses of the interactions with the beings right up until a few years prior to this.. but had been gradually more focused on the tangible material world and less involved in extracting the memories of what was taking place during the nights.

my point about this is that everyone is interacting with the beings at an intimate level.. the are deeply involved in your own deepest cognition. it is as if you are living two lives.. one lived in the brightness of the day and another in a much more dim format that is forgotten about as soon as the strong light of the day begins to be taken in. leave your eyes closed and before you move even a muscle you can still remember what you were doing during the night. you can even watch as they return you to your physical body if the visit was not fully physical. we have television and telephone for communication.. imagine what these will be in a few hundred thousand years combined with similarly advanced versions of neuralink tech. its already here and already a part of your life on literally almost a daily basis

this circle was unique for several reasons. the material that it was projected onto for one thing.. and the fact that its not in a crop for humans.. its a bird sanctuary

>>40822141
huh so there was a bioweapon on the plane?

>>40824191
and theyre gatekeeping these techs because.....?

>>40824341
>a bird sanctuary
that's the thing. they're sooo sooo interested in not fucking this planet up

>>40822109
not sure who that was but you can reverse image search to find a few more images taken at the same time. camera was set to take multiple images in rapid succession.

this is probably the vehicle of the beings i was working with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgha03umwhw
i saw this mode of operation on occasion while i was interacting with them. odd thing when another person saw it standing beside me he was only able to talk openly about what he had seen for about a week before the visual memory became too confusing for him to talk about.. a month later he would not even make eye contact as he dismissed it by changing the subject. interesting he went from being a tree hugging hippy to being enlisted in the military during this time.. suddenly and unexpected according to his family

>>40824423
a work producing motor that required only a spring being produced prior to the era of industrial energy production? what every could their motive be in keeping it quiet?

>>40824471
the point probably has more to do with some aspect of functionality of the projection of the energy in the first place. that grain is not for human consumption. it was outside of the usual for the medium that the circles were projected onto

>>40821796
partitioned consciousness.. is like having a second operating system you can't normally access.. but someone else apparently can. i managed to activate it only once on my own back when i was 18 or 19.. literally watched my body walking away from the location and am missing maybe days before i came back to my ordinary consciousness while counting the eleven points on the star of the badge of a federal marshal. riding unrestrained in the back of the sedan of a couple federal marshals, front seat passenger had taken out his thick wallet to show the badge. they seemed casual and relaxed and dropped me at a civilian psych facility that held me for a week in observation.. but as of the moment i had snapped back to my own ordinary consciousness i had nothing wrong with me to observe. not so sure about what had taken place during the time i was out of it though..

i do also remember the various mk program activities during my earlier years as well as several other kids i was around who were, in retrospect, obviously as involved or far more involved in these programs than i was.

it was during the cold war in europe.. there were applications for those who had been subjected to the conditioning and additional training.

for those with the experience it is probably much easier to simply forget than to try to make sense of the memories.. but its not even close to the intensity of the technology of the beings from the stars despite some programs attempting to imitate this level of effect. orders of magnitude of difference. the human effort to interfere with consciousness is trivial by comparison even with the installation of fully functional alternate personalities that can be activated on command.

with the human effort i had some form of quasi awareness that ran along with my ordinary consciousness keeping me informed with an alternate impression of interpretation of events.. this second track of insight was usually held in mind as 'irrational' but not subconscious

>>40820539
my general thesis is that the majority of humanity is stupid and is going to fail. failure as a general condition in all aspects of life.. when a time of difficulty arrives. this includes the so called elites who will be most likely to do as they are already observable doing; head up their ass with arrogant ignorance and incompetence while being too wealthy to have to face the reality of this circumstance. they likely will have some small groups with tested systems for at least short term survival but they likely will be fragile and lack adequate redundancy to survive longterm.

does not matter what the cause is.. nature or man made.. judging from their current presence the best case scenario is they will have made some effort at setting up for their own survival and it will malfunction in some manner sooner or later. the idea is that, even with people who are competent to accomplish tasks onboard with them, their bizarre concepts of entitlement to authority will have them walking all over the people who would make the correct decisions.
its an unfortunate reality that high value wealth and elite power status tends to create some extreme malfunctions in human behavior and character

the events that slide the majority of humanity back into the stone age might not happen for a few centuries but this is the most likely outcome of our current condition. basically my vision for a primary course of action is to pursue a wide variety of business ownership for the participant members in the short term and in the long term to pursue development of technology sufficient to sustain a colony in an off world location but to do the development right here on the surface of earth where there is easy access to all manner of resources for the purpose.

its not a short term plan. design is to serve its function long beyond the span of a single life. a lot of thought has gone towards what must be managed for this to be successful. hard part is getting everyone on same page

>>40815372
>/\/ ( )
can you shut up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYJdIIJ_O70

>>40821975
>>40820563
one of my stupid little hobbies is to pop in on /x/ threads, dump in about 20% truth and 80% high grade bullshit. the bullshit tends to stick better. bullshit makes its way into the /x/ and conspiracy thoughstream better than truth. no surprise. this thread has a good pull on it. there are a few posts here which have some of the quirks and quips of some bullshit I pumped in a few months ago. the thing about a giant underwater UFO powered by some sort of AI and is making drones...

pure pottery.

>>40821997
>jorjani

yo man, that guy has got a weird story arc. he used to binge watch that public access show Thinking Allowed with Dr. Mishlove before he goes in the public eye. he did an episode there too. there is something about jorjani which makes me confused. he started as a respected academic, apparently knows his history and philosophy well enough to get paid to teach it. somewhere along the way, he either lost the plot or got too much into the plot... and now he is sure time traveling nazis flew off to mars, detonated a nuclear weapon for some reason, then planned to take over the earth after having time traveled back to when mars was habitable. I mean, why not just stay there, or why didn't the time traveling nazis just jump back far enough to not lose?

jorjani, man, whats going on?

>>40822090

maybe a little.

>>40826070

i heard it has to do with something being born
like you see an orb in a recent picture and thats when an animal or something else was born

>>40820563
this reads like chatgpt

>>40826140
he is sort of on the right track. chat gpt is not usually so well focused on an abstraction.

i wrote this >>40820724
and although my paragraph long sentences might benefit from a subscription to grammerly at least i have not been accused of being ai in this thread.. yet.

bottom line is that it takes direct experience to develop much more than an abstract theory.. and i do have a considerable amount of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hajkV7tQtZY
there are three spinning metal rings around a small rectangular part that is at the center of the device. look at the frame rate at which they are caught spinning on camera. there is no biological creature that is capable of that rate of motion. look at the flight path. no insect would be able to fly in such straight direct motion.
its the same device in view under different optical conditions. the beings that operate them made a deliberate point to display one of them to me
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=orbs+caught+on+security+camera

there have been several times when so called paranormal information started going mainstream and the story was crushed. the cave base jumpers who first made this go public were television company executives and producers on vacation who happened to catch these on camera while jumping.. and then when they got home some of them started looking though the many thousands of hours of video they had in the studio and there were finding many hundreds of these devices caught in the images at a frame rate that was certain to be too fast to be biological creatures. ..and then, someone from higher up decided to put pressure and threaten jobs and the story was quickly made quiet again

>>40815329
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about

>>40826094
he used one part of one phrase that i had used in describing my early encounters with the orb devices. i had described it as controlled by some form of ai up until an actual being took over control of the device. you can sort of see them move different when this happens.. but my particular circumstance was out of body. due to my interactions with native american heritage people i had gained experience and self taught how to do out of body perception during 'sleep'.
when the beings flew the device past my head i simply went to see it when i next went to sleep.. so i 'woke up' into the dreamstate perception already attached to the device as it flew its route and i got to see what it was taking observation of. this is how i know what it looks like from the perspective of the orb device.. this is why i said i am not guessing.
i get it. most people have no frame of reference to evaluate such statements. its all crazy talk to the people who have no direct personal experience. such is life.
i got to where i could see these things with the nakid eye on occasion.. and can frequently spot them on security camera footage even when they are far less visible than those security cam orb videos on youtube. some of the older cameras seem to be catching the bandwidth of light that these things show up in. my theory is that someone has been insuring that these companies all modify their equipment so they no longer are seeing them as well.. but the owner operators of the devices can set the device so that it can be seen if that is what they decide to do. this won't be likely to happen unless it has an actual operator observing the device.. the autopilot just sort of drifts along without pause. this is related to the work that the beings are doing here. it really is a long story to explain but yea i do happen to have a good amount of insight from direct observation during interaction with the beings.

>>40826655

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdU635esPpQ

who are you? who is this guy? thinks he's got it going on bossa nova. he must be king of the trees. yeah right. yeah right.

>>40826728
something which confuses me is why? in the simplest sense, why are they here? do they not have lives they want to live? having to deal with us dumb animals must be the least glamorous job they have among their... whatevers. I've heard the ideas about them being synthetic life forms, devoid of all emotion, fun, anger, whatever. just meat robots. maybe, sure, maybe. I just don't get it, what would even be the point of living just to be a meat robot who has to fuck around with some animals on a planet.

I mean really, they should fuck off and find something else to do. there ain't shit here on this planet.

>>40826088
He said multiple times, a glowie hit him up and poked around a bit, becuase apparently 80% of his whole schizo theory is actually spot on.

>>40826764
you can develop the ability to perceive more of what is actually present here beyond the obvious physical material we are composed of.
the beings are not in a position to ignore us. you would not be able to ignore a fire in your kitchen. you would have to respond to it until it was brought under control or extinguished. in a manner of speaking we are just such a fire to their perspective. ther are many beings beyond our local region that we share with these beings as neighbors. there is a lot more going on here than you are observing.
your own eventual physical material conclusion in your current physical body will not be the end of your consciousness. your existence is a permanent force of nature not less significant than a black hole in terms of your quantum properties and impact on regional space. the fact that you exist is a much bigger deal than you may yet realize.

you can not pull an ancient oak tree out of an acorn. some things take time

>>40827102
it would also make sense that they might hit someone up like that if they hit one thing spot on that no one else was getting right. 80% right is almost as accurate as government trained remote viewers.

>>40815175 (OP)
What are orbs people see during deep meditation? And what is the scientific process of meditation at all?

https://youtu.be/K3VNEdQXntY

>>40827231
yeah one ponders which part tho lmao

"...“God” is an invention of the devil. That Satan
— or Satana — is not only older and more primordial than monotheistic
conceptions of God, but that the devil actually shaped the history of
mankind in such a way as to test the character or ethos of individuals and
societies against the captivating power of this theological delusion. In other
words, as I suggested in Iranian Leviathan (2019), the Book of Job needs to
be read backwards. That was, as I argue there, the intention of the Mithraic
Magi who guided the liberated Jews of Babylon in the construction of the
late form of Judaism that went on to become foundational for Christianity.
Like Emperor Xerxes himself, they were esoteric Satanists.
Chapter 1, “Diabolical Disclosure,” begins with the figure of Jack
Parsons, the American rocket scientist and Satanic occultist. I discuss how
leading up to, and after his explosively violent death, Parsons was being
investigated by an inter-agency group known as the Collins Elite. The
origins of this group are traced back to the 1890s Airship Mystery, and in
particular to the case of a certain patent attorney named George Collins,
who claimed to represent the mysterious airship inventor but who turned
out to be a possessed individual delivering testimony under a mediumistic
trance. As I explain, the Collins Elite eventually became convinced of an
occult underpinning to the UFO phenomenon. They believed that it was
demonic or diabolical, and they were concerned that Parsons — who had
been a disciple of Aleister Crowley — was about to summon the Whore of
Babylon and the Antichrist into the world on the wings or, rather, on the
wingless apparitions of flying saucers that were invading the skies of
America, including over the nation’s capital."

>>40826764
they are not attending to only this one world.. their efforts extend to many worlds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suBp3ai-xG8
if you do get to the point that you are dealing with this reality at a level that matters to the beings you will not go unnoticed..

>>40827314
really nibba you post the fakest ayy vid on youtube

>>40827329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZLzEj3sdIo
as if you would know


https://ia601400.us.archive.org/31/items/isaac-caret-q-4-86-research-report/Isaac_caret-q4-86-research-report_text.pdf

>>40827538
yeah i know saucers are almost completely silent or they produce a strange low frequency hum. aint no saucer boots like a playstation

>>40827595
glad to know they will check with you if they ever want to operate with equipment specs outside of your preconceived notions and expectations. be sure and let them know what they are allowed to do here.

>>40827705
well they're quasi technological beings popped into existence from our collective shadow anyway

>>40827295
based tho
With a standard of rigor exceeding both Jung and Jessup, let alone von
Däniken, but also with an unparalleled black humor, Charles Fort scoured
scientific and historical texts at the New York Public Library in order to
produce four substantive volumes of paranormal phenomenology,
beginning with The Book of the Damned (1919), continuing with New
Lands (1923), Lo! (1931) and concluding with Wild Talents (1932). Fort’s
prescient contention is that what we call UFOs cannot be separated from
psychic phenomena. Jung did not come up with this hypothesis. It is already
there in Fort, who combs through tens of cases of clairvoyance,
precognition, telepathy, and telekinesis. He sees these latent human psychic
powers, on rare occasions demonstrated by certain prodigies, as being no
different from the abilities of “gods” and “angels” to impress the ignorant
into awful obedience by demonstrating “miracles.”
Or, for that matter, no
different from the powers of demons. Satan is, after all, the “Prince of the
Air.” In his magnificent body of work, which is as terrifying as it is darkly
humorous, Fort seriously sets forth the hypothesis that all major human
religious belief systems are actually structures of psycho-social and
political control crafted by the same entities behind contemporary Close
Encounters with “mystery airships.”

>>40824586
Who is this Sydney guy

>>40829435
Look into him. Jewish chemist responsible for their psychoactive special ingredients and very involved with a wide range of mk programs. Not just ultra but also naomi and midnight climax among hundreds of others.

He went before congress to say that the programs had all been shut down the same year I was undergoing the early stages of trauma based conditioning so I know from direct first person observation that his testimony was typical agency deception.

>>40829951
can you prove any of your claims, glowie?

>>40815175 (OP)
souls, orbs are us without a body

>>40824493
>that grain is not for human consumption
what then does that say about crop circles that appear in crops meant for human consumption? is it a metaphor for humans to consume the information displayed in the "food" or are we literally meant to consume the altered food inside the circle?

>>40824586
so kinda like the tv show Severence?

>>40815566

basicaly all those orbs are monitoring agents that monitor earth.
they are not able to be saw with naked eye, they have some sort of "light frequency" camuflage that is only visible when using other methods for image detection, as IR or UV signals that are not filtered, or glass that is able to decode IR non visible light into visible light spectre.
dyciannin glasses may be related to it.

>>40832770

>>40831560
i don't consider myself related to their interests. they have left me alone to live my life as far as i can tell.. obviously they have not simply ignored me but the interactions with the alien presence were a significant departure from with what they probably initially had in mind for me. i went through a lot, dealt with it, and laid very very low for many years while i got a handle on what i had been through. i met people and got them to talk on many occasions.. even in recent years. i have collected information with a significant advantage over the average person who begins from a position of having no basis for formation of development of a clue. claims? if you can't verify the information or relate well enough to grasp the nature of the personal anecdotal accounts what value would it serve attempting to deliver evidence that could not be evaluated comprehended absorbed and digested?
if you can't determine your own orientation within the context of the complex modern world why would you presume that someone else can do this for you?
get your own clue. i earned mine.

>>40832255
the theory i have of the subject after years of being in the presence of their technology with nearly full conscious awareness during a majority of the interactions is that the actual thing that is being targeted is in the atomic structure itself.
not the grain as we see it but the genetic material.
the key to this theory is understanding that the material we are calling dna is a material basis for a non material data storage format. the key concept is that there is an electromagnetic field surrounding the dna that is literally harboring data we are not yet able to perceive to begin attempting to comprehend. further into the concept is the notion that these fields are not isolated on a single atomic structure in localized space, that the dna of the entire planet can be communicated with through these means, but specific atomic structures are being targeted that are present as trends of protein clusters that appear in various species.. further concept that is most likely an aspect of this is that these 'images' are communicating within the regions of consciousness that we would describe as instinct. that they are involved in intricate involvements within human consciousness from perspectives that can only be attained through the use of their technologies that see far beyond our simple linear perspective. what relationship exists between various worlds seeded with similar biological life forms? they are involved in our cognitive presence in ways that we don't yet even conceive of.. but this is complicated by the fact that there are tiers of beings involved here.. tiers of technological levels layered together. there is actually a vast difference between the technology of a culture only a few million years ahead of our own condition and one far more older. i can speak from personal experience on some aspects of this and i can turn to cite books that got so much of the context right that they serve as orientational towards comprehension.
no need to consume it

>>40820797
the vehicle in the image posted here.. what do you think they are doing? look at the light pointing at various directions.. they are looking at the life in the sand at a microscopic scale. it is part of how they evaluate the condition of life on this world. macroscopically it can be thought of as the blood of the living earth. at the tiny scale actually focused on they can see fractal relationships that extend beyond this world. crazy that they can see beyond this world by looking at the detail of what is present here but as i said before we are not isolated here. we are an integral part of energetic forces that extend far beyond this single planet.

worth pointing out that this is all theory.. but also worth pointing out that i developed it out of direct experience with the beings.

>>40833545
they don't often explain.. and it is very difficult to focus your mind to pursue a particular line of question when immersed in the field effects of their technology. for them that field gives them seamless integration of their minds and their equipment.. but it is extremely overwhelming and disorienting or perhaps more people might be able to recall their time spent in the presence of the beings.

what i did see is that they use tool to scrape a small square sample of microflora off the subjects they perform medical examination on. i got a lot of exposure to their technology.. massive amounts of data are stored within our bodily fluids by themselves.. but that is relatively superficial in regard to the depths of what can be found within the dna itself. they are looking at our presence, our consciousness, from the quantum foundations of our energetic form. these concepts i have mentioned are layers of the depth they are engaging with.. their activities focused at each level is radically different.. and as i understand it, based on what i saw, the individual vehicle crew is not at liberty to choose their direction in what they are seeking to work on. they do have a hierarchy of command structure. individual beings hold directing influence similar to how officers run things in our own militaries. most of the crew are highly capable and waiting for direction from these higher ups. some seem to be less capable but specialized

>>40832770
fuck off glowie this shit is man made

>>40833334
i think youre part of that discord tranny disinfo larper group ive seen here before.

>>40833579
you ain't the best at thinking then. got nothing to do with anyone. i have posted before. they do exist. these facts are not related.

>>40833579
its really a sign of how sad the human condition is that genuine sincere effort to share such experience has no venue that will not be corrupted by the character and expectation of those who might be the target audience themselves.

>>40833561
hes partially right and sort of on the right track.
its not simply light.. they are tinkering with the bosonic foundation of the matter of the device itself. the optic effects are subordinate consequences. the function of the device is far more complex than simple optical illusion. humans don't yet have the skills needed to replicate the equipment nor to imitate its behavior.
if you had seen the equipment up close for yourself you would either second guess and deny your own visual memory or you would have similar insight.

>>40833651
yeah this the exact JeetPT answer I got from said individuals usually. have you managed to save humanity trannybro?

>>40835414
i get the impression you think you are actually right and not just a heckler. usually it is people accusing that the truth is fantasy. in your case you have a fantasy of what must exist and you are dismissive of what actually does.
i suppose it is to be fatalistically accepted that people such as yourself will exist in any open forum conversation.
you will now proceed to puke your imagination onto everything posted. whether intentional or not you are a detractor to real discussion on the issue in very similar manner to the group you are attempting to call out.

>>40835447
I'm not buying the inasion narrative and the warmongering

>>40835558
Flying insect and low shutter speed on camera

>>40836460
that or swamp gas

>>40836456
Invasion? They have been in this region of the galaxy for millions of years. We are only here due to their own actions towards the primitive life they found developing here.

>>40836460
Guess again. Shutter speed was a fraction of a second. Presumption is not an adequate substitute for investigation.

>>40833551
seen this machine patty talking about here?

https://youtu.be/_aweoDF5Plg?t=5840

>>40837015
I had seen a written source of information reporting on a technology development operation that was working with the same sort of technology mainly focusing on the fact that the growth would occur with only a tiny fraction of the usually required water.
Turned out to be so destructive to animal cellular material that it could serve as a broad spectrum wide projection death ray of sorts. Water would be able to be distributed within the cells due to the microwave frequency agitating the molecular structures causing it to pass through membranes that are ordinarily able to filter or block it from passing through.
Same sort of technology.
The public sector will not be made aware of this due to it being just as much of a weapon as it is a beneficial technology.
If you watched the full video of her then you probably already understand why I am present on the internet only in this plausibly deniable venue.
If you take a closer look at the theory I posted you can see that I am describing a technology that is orders of magnitude more advanced than what they are speculating about.

Just try to fathom what purpose is being pursued through this application of technology. My assertion is that the functional effect is not localized to the location of the circle itself. The beings are managing life across many many worlds. They are interacting with a field of energy that is relevant to the entire biological presence that we are perceiving as existing around us. From the perspective of beings with adequately advanced technology, the biological system we perceive is one layer in a much more complicated quantum presence of organized energetic presences

Bump

>>40837333
any sauce on that?

Bump

>>40838578
There were many books available in public stores on occasion during times when political turmoil behind the scenes had caused the removal of the concealed operatives that used to covertly provide oversight and security for the nation.
In their absence a wave of literature and technology would be available temporarily until the next covert government was strong enough to get back to quietly censoring the public. Just scouring the public bookstore shelves would turn up an occasional exceptional leak of information. Often books would be available in one nation while another would ban it. Some of these were hot enough it was wise to not personally own them. Many of the best books were compendiums of various other sources.
Prior to the modern Internet it was necessary to get information by such means. The cost of purchasing the material would have been considerable so reading them and carrying the information away in memory was the only real option.
Many of the articles that are still fresh in my mind after decades I have yet to find significant corroboration for but some have gradually emerged in modern data streams if only in the form of a few fragments.
The old bookstores didn't exactly keep track of everything that had passed through on their shelves. It's not a simple thing to locate certain books by memory without knowing the author and title.
Just like modern digital censorship there were items that were suppressed despite the effort to get the information to the public.
Many items were well substantiated while some were only a single report that managed to reach an author who was able to get the information published.
The specific story involved the personal situation of one biotechnology researcher who got into a classified program working on this technology.

>>40838928
He was working the equipment onboard an aircraft that was flying a pattern over the desert in an African nation.. border area between nations.. and he thought they were demonstrating the ability to make the plants grow in the dry conditions as a matter of proving they had caught up with a Soviet program that they had surveillance observation of. As they finished flying over the area he was brought into the cabin of the aircraft to look outside. The land was covered in refugee compounds. He understood that he had just applied the frequencies to the people and they would be dying over the next few hours of extreme hydro toxic conditions having to do with the water passing through the tissue membranes of their bodies. He refused to work and attempted to leave the program at which point he had lost time and woken up with a bag of thick honey like fluid attached to his abdomen. It was basically a liquid timer that he had to get refilled by his handlers. If he refused to work then they would not refill it. Had about three days when it was refilled. He worked a few more weeks and then decided to take his story to the reporter who was publishing it. He died of some extreme withdrawal symptoms after the bag was empty.

If it was the creepy pasta of its time it was published at a cost and reached only very limited circulation. Perhaps a well read ai system will be able to locate the original source. It was not presented as fictional but I have seen books get reclassified in the bookstore to move them from the military history section to the fiction shelves. It happens. Some have moved more than once like this back and forth. Bob Woodward spooky8 for example

>>40815175 (OP)

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Node-length-increase-in-a-crop-circle-Shown-are-samples-taken-at-three-di-ff-erent_fig1_280245462

If you are too young to remember, the public media was rallying to ridicule the phenomena of the circles up until this guy wrote this scientific paper studying the distribution of the microwave effects the plant nodes had been subjected to. He was able to demonstrate that the microwave burn effects were distributed in the manner of a point source of light.

The public media immediately shut up about the subject

>>40838578
Yeah, the LAM SAUCE

>>40838933
https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Spooky-8-King-Bob-Martins-Press/31111499948/bd

King.. not Woodward
There was a fiction book by the same name that was the only thing that showed up in a search for a while. You can see the behind the scenes changes to the political world with the type of things that are allowed to reach the public when the authority structure changes. Worth reading if you are going to be bumping elbows with spooks and glowies.
Senior Executive Services Keystone group gets kicked around too at times and most of the public doesn't even know they exist

>>40824397
jesus, you need to translate the conlang.

>>40826070
glowie

>>40826140
it´s part of my working thesis, i am trying to pull together from various topics (economics to system dynamics and astronomy and SETI).

I pulled the answer for you from my project with chatGPT

>>40816223
> rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
> in contact with aliens
> rumoured to possess psychic abilities
> control france with an iron fist
> own castles and banks all over the world
> direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
> will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
> own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
> first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
> both brothers said to have 400+ IQ
> ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
> These are the Bogdanoff twins
> They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
> You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
> They learned fluent French in under a week
> Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins.
There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
> The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
> In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
> The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

>>40841230
Early life?

Bump

>>40820563
From my own interaction with the beings and the devices that are being called orbs or rods you got one part very correct. The device is involved with collection of cognitive imagery and thought. It can have the effect of causing someone's mind to suddenly go blank or it can project cognitive impressions of any type into a person's mind. Concepts thoughts visual imagery emotional effects intuitive impressions.. etc.
Understanding why it is doing this is deep. It's a function of multiple person empathetic and telepathic networking. Certain humans are being brought together to work towards collective goals at an internal cognitive level.
When gathering information it can see a residual presence of things that you have thought about at a subconscious level as a visual image in the places you frequent.. especially your residence.
The beings are very involved in human life here on earth and this equipment is a significant tool that keeps them in close observation of the people they are focusing on. They have methods of keeping themselves out of view of the conscious minds of people that they are intimately involved in the lives of.

It's a finite number of people here and they are working with everyone here in the night while we are sleeping. Not everyone on every night but everyone at various stages of their individual development. Some of the routine lessons are in the earliest stages of human development. They use physical visits and also interaction while people are asleep and keep it all out of view of the average human subject
I mentioned they have technology that extends beyond what we think of as death.. it requires a lot of description and explanation to be clear about what I know of this and how I know it. I had full conscious recollection of many aspects of the interactions that they had not intended to be remembered. The fact that I had some memory of interactions with the beings caused me to have to deal with the reality of their existence.

The devices are a mechanical technology. It's a metallic solid object that is changing the properties of the metal at the quantum mechanical level

>>40815566
i like the theory that this is old tartarian tech more