Thread 40822731

> scientists confirm reincarnation
> if your life sucks, you fucked up in previous life

shouldnt have been such as asshole

Just achieve Nirvana, it's not even hard.

>>40822731 (OP)
The reincarnation theories assumed (key word) by scientists have nothing to do with spirituality or karma system. Most of the good ones have to do with either quantum suicide or big bounce/time loops. In either case those "reincarnations" are completely random and have nothing to do with your actions from the previous ones

>>40822896
>completely random
no such thing.
all chaos is ordered, it's just a matter of knowing how it works.

>>40822731 (OP)
>your body, or rather your brain, is the mind/matter interface that enables a soul to experience physical reality
>think of a car and a driver: you are the driver bound inside a car
>when a car is destroyed (death) you can leave it behind and be free in the subtle space (aether)
>supposedly the purpose of this existence is to gain lessons and acquire wisdom
>however every time you die, you are pulled towards the light which, among many other things, mind-wipes you
>how to learn anything if you are wiped each time?
>the true answear: it's not about learning any lessons, it's about suffering
>souls are trapped on this cursed earth to suffer under the pretense of "learing tough lessons"
>the whole karmic system is bullshit designed to either make you suffer willingly to get "good boy points" in the next incarnation or punish you for being asshole in the previous one (you can't win)
>while in reality archons just feast on the widespread misery and malice
Break the cycle. Don't go into the light. Entities that resemble your loved ones that passed away, angels, religious figures etc. are disgusting parasites in disguise that are tricking you to take part in this shitshow over and over again.

>>40822932
idk what if this plane is torment/hell and we are supposed to git gud?
How do you suppose you're going to have the awareness and control of your vesseless spirit to do anything about what it does after the traumatic experience of dying?
It's much wiser to assume you can get a good end and git gud than to spend your life reeing then brace for impact when you die.

>>40822946
>idk what if this plane is torment/hell and we are supposed to git gud?
If that was the case you'd retain your soul-memories and within a few lifetimes you'll basically be a living saint. And yet souls are sent here as blanks in the bodiies of people with violent tendencies and no impulse control over and over again. It makes no sense other than farming suffering. Imagine a teacher that gives all students rape pills after each lecture so they don't remember jack shit afterwards.
>How do you suppose you're going to have the awareness and control of your vesseless spirit to do anything about what it does after the traumatic experience of dying?
Knowledge is half the battle. If you are well aware you are about to get scammed, the scammer has little to no chance of pulling his tricks on you. I have no idea if you can resist the light tunnel or the archon brainwashing, but I hope I can. You can train mental toughness and discipline to make your mind stronger and more resistant to manipulation.
>It's much wiser to assume you can get a good end and git gud than to spend your life reeing then brace for impact when you die.
True. The best way to spite archons is to have happy and fulfilling life. Spread joy and hope, not violence and suffering. Love a good life, the best you can. But the deception will always be there
>die of old age surrounded by loving family
>go into the light
>archon bastard: "well you worked hard all your life in your incarnation #615, you had a nice family, donated to charity, helped others... But you bullied little Timmy in 3rd grade and stole a candy bar when you were 6, so... guess you're going back :^) this time you'll be a son of a crack whore who will pimp you out to pedophiles, have fun with that"

>>40822971
idk about that, I fancy myself a buddha who has escaped samsara and it's not that difficult a thing to do.
Plus if you look at the world human nature is to become less violent and shitty over time so the statement that we're all just blanked isn't true, even if we don't have conscious memories of past lives.
I myself don't believe in past lives at all though so take that with a grain of salt.

>>40822986
>world human nature is to become less violent and shitty over time
I disagree on that. In the whole human history the life was 95% struggle and suffering and 5% pleasure and joy, and the percentages shifted to 85:15 AT BEST thanks to modern day technology and science. Even now suffering is inescapable reality of life. Deep down people are still savages who would exploit and beat other fellow humans to death with their bare hands on a whim.
>I myself don't believe in past lives at all though so take that with a grain of salt.
You are free to believe whatever you wish, but there is evidence of children knowing facts from the past in a detail that is unexplainable in a way other that soul-memory from previous lives. I know of at least 2 well documented cases of that.

>>40822731 (OP)
>imagines something happening
>uses it as an excuse to continue his Just World Fallacy
You're the one who's an asshole here.

>>40823005
Suffering can be overcome and avoided but it's a whole thing and you're probably not gonna believe some random schizo enough to apply it to your life but yeah, with just modern tech and the right mindset suffering is optional.

For me, I think those memories are genetic and not the actual person's soul reincarnating but it doesn't matter at all as neither of us can prove it conclusively with science.

>>40823032
>Suffering can be overcome and avoided but it's a whole thing and you're probably not gonna believe some random schizo enough to apply it to your life
How so? Share your wisdom. You wouldn't believe half of he things I've dabbled in during my life.

>>40822971
>"This time you'll be a son of a crack whore who will pimp you out to pedophiles, have fun with that"
This.

Any reincarnation cycle must understand that at some point we existed or may yet exist in such a form that is faced with immense suffering and extreme trials. Part of being in the samsara wash is to play both the part of the rapist and the rapee. How else can one properly perspective suffering without knowing what it is like to be harmed and to be harmful. I think that's why it's so important to show love and understanding, to break the cycle of pain we're part of, that we might be free from baser instincts and desires, and become more. Choosing to be cruel and selfish is easy. Choosing to be kind and selfless takes so much more.

>>40823086
To me the difference between suffering and pain is you might want pain. Suffering is consensual suck.
So if you want everything that can possibly happen, you can not suffer.
I did that by realizing some things.
Short version is:
If God is omnipotent he's causing or preventing everything that is and if he's omniscient he's always right. So who am I to disagree with God?
So basically, if I stub my toe or something "bad" happens, I want that because God wanted it and he's right, not me.
It basically removes suffering from the material experience.

>>40823102
suffering is UNconsensual suck*

Perfect time to point out how it works.
I wanted that typo.
IDK why, don't need to know why, God wanted it there so it's there so that's right.
I wanted what I wasn't trying to do to happen lol

>>40823089
But that logic is broken at it's core, for it assumes that the rapist is just as pivotal for a soul development as being the rape victim. If so, does the rapis fulfill some grand purpose with his action, and therefore, does nothing wrong? If it's all pre-planned, and destiny can't be changed, why punish the ones on the wrong siide of history?
And what if, one day, for no reason at all, people just stopped raping other people? Will the ones who did not experience being raped be left out with 99% "achievments completed" instead of 100% how will they be complete?

>>40823111
>the rapist is just as pivotal for a soul development as being the rape victim
I believe it is
>does the rapist fulfill some grand purpose with his action, and therefore, does nothing wrong?
The rapist does fulfill a grand purpose with his action, and it is still wrong. Both can be true
>If it's all pre-planned, and destiny can't be changed, why punish the ones on the wrong side of history?
Because it's not pre-planned per se. It's not foretold in the Stars that a specific person will be raped or even that a rape may occur on a specific day. Everything is in flux and all eventualities are possible. Both rape and non-rape exist the same time until our linear perception of existence takes us down a path of probability that may or may not lead us to said rape.
>what if, one day, for no reason at all, people just stopped raping other people?
Wouldn't that be great if we all could stop raping each other? I'd call that a win
>Will the ones who did not experience being raped be left out with 99% "achievements completed" instead of 100% how will they be complete?
That would assume that their soul's journey would be complete before experiencing being raped. As our souls are eternally put through the cycle until we achieve Nirvana/enlightenment/forgiveness, whatever you want to call it, It's inevitable that at some point we would have experienced it. I think having sympathy for rape victims would be a symptom of having experienced rape firsthand in a previous life, thus giving the pre-context in the individuals weight of compassion, to show pity for those poor victims.

So long as souls are put through the wash, the rape will persist. Evil must persist that it might grow unabated, so that Good may rise to meet it. We can't know one without the other. So as long as we exist, both exist. Rape is just the example that I'm using. Any struggle of existence may be seen as 'Apart' or otherwise 'Evil' to be set differently from what is perceived as "Good" or 'Whole'

>>40823111
I hope my attempt at explanation of my views
>>40823338
Made sense. Normally I prefer to be a lurker but this thread made me want to say something.
Thanks for the opportunity to call me out on my beliefs that I might have the opportunity to explain them and learn more about myself in the process.

>>40822896
This

>>40822731 (OP)
whos tbis slut?

>>40823111
i know someone who sold his own daughters into slavery in the late 1800s. then he was reincarnated as a slave and brainwashed, put on ye olde lupron in early 1900s. he did something terrible to me and never, ever had a drop of guilt. he instead doubled down on the offensive behavior, no matter how much he was punished, even legally.
this life, he just got his ass ripped open by some troons using a hard toy a couple years ago. but he's just going to end up being an ABDL kiddy diddler and the cycle will never end.
don't expect people to learn, they won't. they're just going to do the same shit over and over and over, and degrade worse and worse. hell, he already showed signs of being a "little" when i knew him.

>>40822731 (OP)
>people with bad lives now were assholes in the previous one
If that is true does that make most people shitty? Because there are billions of people with horrible lives, 1 billion Indians alone.

My life is semi shitty, was I just being an asshole half the time in my past life?

>>40822731 (OP)
SOURCE who is she?!!!!!

>>40825100
I can confirm OP's assertion, and seconded.

>>40822731 (OP)
Nah I'll just keep being an asshole
>Fuck that next guy, sucks to be him.

>>40822899
The fact that people take a grand order on 'vibes' when there are provably random occurrences never really ceases to amuse me.

>>40822731 (OP)
>biological determinism is rewarded and/or punished by more biological determinism
cmon

low iqs nigga be like

>>40822731 (OP)
>scientists confirm
Care to cite that source, friend?

>>40826483
>>40824640
15

>>40822731 (OP)
I'm interested in the scientific report stating karma exists

I know science already proved reincarnation but karma is pure bullshit

>>40822896
this. Cyclic universe theory is basically infinite random reincarnation. Sounds pretty fun to me honestly, and it makes astronomically more sense than religion or the big bang theory.

>>40822986
>Plus if you look at the world human nature is to become less violent and shitty over time
you are completely clueless about crime statistics. Only a few minority like europeans and the Japanese are non violent, the world is a fucking shithole outside of those areas. Just go to Africa or Chicago and reconsider what you have just said.

>>40823111
>If so, does the rapis fulfill some grand purpose with his action, and therefore, does nothing wrong?
Define "wrong". He does wrong in the eyes of worldly justice and society, who will condemn him. He does wrong in his own eyes. A rapist also rapes himself, as there is a higher consciousness in him that knows what he does is painful and loathsome, but accepts his role in the spiritual lesson, for which he must carry a karmic burden.

But there is no higher right or wrong separate from the human experience. All is as it should be, because it is indeed our grand purpose.

>If it's all pre-planned, and destiny can't be changed, why punish the ones on the wrong siide of history?
Because the punishment is part of the ritual and willingly embraced.

>>40822899
>>40826497
Consider: a butterfly dreamed up by Zhuang Zhi can flap its wings in a specific pattern such that a waking Zhuang Zhi can recover recognizable Lyapunov exponents from the resulting weather patterns to recover a partial irreducible trace of the chaotically deterministic exponential generator function.

Now consider that this has already happened billions of times and keeps happening faster and faster.

>>40822731 (OP)
how does one upgrade from being a snail ?

>>40824827
How did you know about the damage he did to you and about past lives in general?

>>40828569
Break your shell to transition to slug.

>>40822932
>every time you die you go toward the light
> don't go toward the light
>don't die
How do we not die

>>40824870
>does that make most people shitty?
Kinda checks out though, when you have a look around

>>40823338
Being raped during childhood hurts a lot, it happened to me three times.I know that suffering is necessary to have empathy for others. It's also easy for me to recognize other people who have gone through the same thing by analyzing their sometimes self-destructive behavior.
Still, I don't know how those who raped me will pay their karmic debt. It'll be something personal in my next life, or they'll pay it by being lawyers who take on human traffickers or something.
What worries me is my next incarnation. I wanted my next life to be full, but right now I have these energies stuck. If I continue with this I will incarnate as a person without genitals or some hermaphrodite person.

>>40828569
I often questioned this. My question was how does a Hyena ascend to something better? How do you "be a good Hyena"??

>>40828569
>>40828630
It's how I came to the conclusion that reincarnation was a trap. And ironically I came to understand that without a minute of eastern religion. Just pondering on the issue.

My issue is ai don't see a way out. Because if I stumble, as I do, and enter the next life ignorant, which is likely considering how I entered this one, how then do I escape.

This then brings me to the subject of salvation. We are in a fallen state and require salvation that we cannot do alone. I struggle with the idea of Jesus being the answer but honestly an external savior seems like the only way.

>>40826561
Where's your proof nigga

>>40826483
>>40825100
Alright you gooner niggas I found the sauce it's Helly Valentine

>>40828630
Why do you assume there is a dramatic difference? Even hyenas meet other hyenas and animals, and experience anger, fear, frustration, joy, pleasure, and their souls are gradually drawn to experience these feelings more intensely. A hyena might be a farm goat in the next life, or a pet dog or a cat, before having grown enough to reincarnate as a human baby.

>>40822741
How

>>40822731 (OP)
>Oh, wow, they still don't know how to guide their conscious resonance structure.

>>40822731 (OP)
>if your life sucks, you fucked up in previous life
>shouldnt have been such as asshole

>>40828629
>some hermaphrodite person
If this happens, come find me. I'll suck any karmic debt out of you so you can achieve Nirvana

>>40822731 (OP)
Das a trap

>>40828960
Lol, I really like the meme, very timely. It feels like something Bill Murray would say.

OP is correct even for low iq understand and is high iq understadn but some how the mitwit never understands. but claims the high ground anyway.

many such cases

>>40828786
No it's not...

>>40828961
Thanks, Anon, but you can't help me. No one can. Karma isn't something that can be transferred to another person.And even if it could be done, I don't want to pass my damn disaster on to someone else. It's like putting my hand on your shoulder and giving you cancer.
I appreciate your help. What I want is to find a way to deal with everything and be in the best shape for my next life.

>>40822731 (OP)
What if karma is just another one of those games in this fake illusory world that doesn't actually exist?
What if "soul contracts" are another word for "deals with the devil", and the implication which gets bandied about ("everyone has a soul contract") is a coping mechanism for satanic abuse in this illusory world?
Why is it that soul entities are forced, made to perceive the world a specific way by a select few using threats of violence and retribution, as well as an abundance of fear tactics, to shut those souls up and make them obey an overlord?
Could it be that the entire narrative is false?

Reincarnation is not voluntary unless it is explicitly so in specific individual cases.
Most souls here didn't choose to be here, they were taken here and are forced to stay here.
Karma is a lie. Dharma is the natural state of being, it's not something you get as a reward for being a good boy who obeyed mommy the devil.
Take it from someone who "cleared his karma" by simply ignoring the people who abuse and pretending those people don't exist.
In fact, take it and challenge it. Don't just believe it. Make your own mind up.
No, next level. Find out what your heart says about it. Listen to your heart.
This is just what mine said, and it's still largely broken.

>>40829250
Yeah it is nigga hahaha

Bump

>>40822731 (OP)
Reincarnational karma is just a super normie coping mechanism. Its for people with no self reflection and no ability to improve themselves. For morons to stupid to think from different perspectives.

YOU above all else decide where you end up. But you always want to be better and obviously feel good and happy. If you are wrapped in negative emotions like guilt or rage or envy, then you'll want to part with them. A smart person will sift through the memories and points of pain, trying to let go of these past shackles and be able to grow from them. Perhaps they might need more actual life experience to do so, but they'd do more smaller focused reincarnations if any at all.

But a retard who can't fathom the change needs a new life. Imagine a giga racist that just hates and hates all day long. How is this retard going to stop being racist unless he has a whole lifetime being the thing he hated? How can an idiot with no ability to empathize truly understand why killing is bad unless he lives a life to teach him that? Other delusions like thinking existence is suffering or that evil entities keep you hear are the same. If you can't allow yourself to feel any joy in death because you think its all a trick and ruse then you're just going to keep coming back until you realize that its whatever you think it was.

The only thing in common that every piece of 'advice' that is given about reincarnation has, is that its always YOUR choice. Go into the light, don't go into the light, is there even a light. Its your choice. Its an easy thing to say now being just in a temporary fleshy body that is to physically focused to let you feel your entire soul and all its memories at once. But when the time comes if you aren't ready to face yourself and then still willingly chose to do what you want, you'll keep looping letting others move you around. Not because they're bad or evil, but because you WANT them to move you because you're to afraid/weak/stupid to move yourself.

>>40829306
Fair enough

If you change your mind I could still suck you off. Offers on the ethereal table lol

>>40829969
>Imagine a giga racist that just hates and hates all day long.
Oh, that's me!
>How is this retard going to stop being racist unless he has a whole lifetime being the thing he hated?
This happened to me. I'm a nigger. I still hate niggers.
Turns out values transcend race, and some races are better at emulating those values than others
If anything, the test is the opposite. Will you just 'go with the flow' and do bad things just because it's what everyone else is doing? Or will your recognize wrong even if it estranges you from humanity? That's a way more profound test than "uh, racism is bad! You would do the same thing if you were them !( No, I wouldn't, retard)

>>40822932
I never understood fully what happens wheb you dont you into the light

You ignore it and join the source or something?

I remember someone saying you have to demand to go "Home"
>MAKNY

>>40830157
Are you a girl? The astral is too complicated. I've been attacked by archons from that dimension before.

>>40830580
No I am not

>>40822731 (OP)
>if you act nice you get reborn in a good situation, but that turns you into a sociopath asshole
Who designed this reality?

>>40822731 (OP)
Wasn't she 15 when she posted that?

>>40822731 (OP)
WHO IS SHE, I NEED SAUCE NOW!!!!
>>40831386
WHOOOOO

>>40822731 (OP)
Thats definitely a femme boy

>>40831549
>WHOOOOO
I didn't keep the information because I didn't want to be a pedo. She got married the second she turned 18 iirc

>>40831643
mr righteous gooner overhere

>>40831549
You know you could just figure it out in 10 seconds on your own, right?

>>40830188
you're a honorary aryan

>>40831549
Deltatrikk, deleted all her accounts, chopped out her tits and the only tiktok archive page that existed is long gone, thats the only video you find of her, You are welcome

>>40830188
It was really just an example. The idea is that if you died and went to your heaven would you enjoy it or sit there seething about niggers. Its fine to hate things but not good to have them rent free in your mind, especially from things in past lives that are irrelevant. Its abotu walking forward in death to your nigger free paradise, to the point they'll eventually leave your mind and you'll look back on them as a silly memory from long ago

>>40822731 (OP)
you disgust me buch of filthy coomer
btw her name tiktok
realfrogg Nica

>>40828934
Be.

>>40835275
Can she serve me chocolate milk at the maid cafe

>>40822731 (OP)
>reincarnation is a moral thing
no, it's not. It's a tendency thing. you come back because you want to come back.

>>40836891
>realfrogg Nica
not her at all, completely different chin

>>40836917
found it in archiveofsins, it's an account that's since been deleted because all these girls regret their past these days called deltatrikk

>>40836712
Fuck off Ivan.

>>40833611
>>40831549
>realfrogg Nica
https://www erome com/search?q=realfrogg&o=new

>>40836964
deltatrikk is not realfrogg, different girls

>>40822731 (OP)
That's a man

>>40822731 (OP)
Be honest, am I in a simulation created by the Solaryan Reich to see the timeline of them not winning?

>>40822731 (OP)
Karma is such a retarded and easily disproven concept.

Just think of the first sufferer, why would he suffer if he didn't do anything bad.
If he did something bad he isn't the first sufferer.

>>40822731 (OP)
If reincarnation is real why can't you remember you memories from previous incarnations?
Checkmate, atheists.

>>40822971
>The best way to spite archons is to have happy and fulfilling life.
Wrong.
The best way to spite the archons is to ESCAPE.

Do you think a prison warden cares if his prisoners are happy or not? All he cares about is making sure they stay in their jail cells. The only thing that will make him mad is if a prisoner escapes.

>>40838401
Last time I checked atheists do not believe in reincarnation... Unless it is quantum immortality through a cyclic universe, and even in that case you still wouldn't remember previous "incarnations." Why would you? memories are specific to specific brains.

Skill issue. I'm having a good time (sometimes).
Torture would be to be born as a cripple and tortured daily. Far from it.