Serious question. This it not against any religion in particular, just for anyone who believes in an all-powerful God who is also good.

God restricted our biology on Earth to have certain limits and making some things impossible.
We can't breathe underwater for example nor regrow limbs, even though both things are possible in nature for some animals, yet God made them impossible to naturally occur in humans.
He did however allow that children can get pregnant, that incest produces off-spring (even between daughter/father or mother/son) or that adult humans can feel physical arousal from defenseless children.

Why though? Isn't that pretty bizarre? What does this tell us about God?
He made sure to restrict other biological things and making them not-possible, but he fully allowed for all the sick shit mentioned above, even though he could have easily also made them biologically "impossible" just like breathing underwater.

>>40855383 (OP)
he's a sick sick fuck

>>40855383 (OP)
Through limitation things become meaningful.

>>40855439
But precisely these things are NOT limited...

>>40855421
but some say i am god
am i a sick fuck?

>>40855383 (OP)
He didn't restrict anything, because he dont exist in the first place.
Our biology is the way it is because most people are retarded, and the retarded breed more.

>>40855383 (OP)
I dunno. You can ask him I guess but I doubt he'll answer. What occurs to me is that our bodies are reflective of his own in some ways, and he lacks these features. Not that he couldn't hypothetically breathe underwater, he doesn't need to breathe and wouldn't need gills to do it. It's that his heavenly body, when translated to a physical form, is conducive mostly to a land dwelling being and so that's what we are. If God had gills, we might, but since he doesn't we don't. That's just my opinion though.

>>40855383 (OP)
free will

>>40855383 (OP)
>Are you righteous? Kind? Does your confidence lie in this? Are you loved by all? Know that I was, too. Do you imagine your suffering will be any less because you loved goodness and truth? - The Thin Red Line
>You grieve for those who should not be grieved for… the wise grieve neither for the living nor the dead.”
“Just as the boy passes into youth, and youth into old age, so the soul passes into another body. The wise are not deluded by this. - Gita Chapter 2, Verses 11–13
>You have the right to act, but not to the fruits of your actions. Never be attached to the fruits of action. - Gita Chapter 2, Verse 47
>Treat pleasure and pain, gain and loss, victory and defeat alike. Then you will not incur sin. Gita - Chapter 2, Verse 38
>Though he appears to suffer the pains of birth and death, his mind is unmoved by them. He appears to enjoy the pleasures of the senses, but remains free from desire. - The Vimalakirti Sutra
>Give without attachment to result. A bodhisattva should develop a mind that clings to nothing at all. Even when they save innumerable beings, they do not see any being as saved. - The Diamond Sutra
>Form is emptiness, emptiness is form.”
No fear. Gone, gone, gone beyond… - The Heart Sutra
>The true bodhisattva does not seek nirvana. He returns to the burning house, to lead others out. To suffer for the sake of sentient beings is the greatest joy. - The Lotus Sutra
>My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. - Jesus Chris - Matthew 26:38
>If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. - JC - John 15:18
>They hated me without a cause. - JC - John 15:25
>The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. - Job 1:21
>Is muh apocalypse is coooming?? - 40856226
You do not escape suffering by being good. You do not control fate by loving truth. You must walk through it anyway with your third eye wide open.
Accept your limitations as a human.

>>40855511
Idk bro, I believe in evolution, so technically we all collectively chose this form as the best form over a very long period of time.
I don't think evolution is a denial of God either, I think it's proof of intelligent design. What could be more intelligent than nature, which selects for adaptability?
As for your strangely specific questions on sex, there were probably periods in history long ago when such things were biologically useful.
Biology takes a loooong time to catch up to culture, which takes a loooong time to catch up to technology.
Technology actually develops so fast it closes the horseshoe gap to biology, and leaves culture in the dust, which is what Uncle Ted wrote about.

>>40856398
Didn't really answer why other than possibly implying that there is no real answer / purpose

>>40855383 (OP)
>Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Isn't it funny how it's the heavens and the "earth?" usually when that statement is used, it uses the opposite.

The fact that the Earth is used in place of the opposite of Heaven, tells us that Earth is Hell.

We're here because we're all sinners. Everyone has sin because of original sin. The only way to enlightenment is to resist sin and be righteous.

>>40856286
You didn't read the OP. He restricts our "free will" in biological ways all the time, yet he didn't restrict much when it comes to pedophiles.

>>40855619
> are reflective of his own in some ways
God is a child who can get pregnant through incest?

>>40856482
>there were probably periods in history long ago when such things were biologically useful.
I mean just like breathing underwater or regrowing a lost limb would have been useful. How can you claim intelligent design for a lack of that but it's intelligent design to get 10 year olds pregnant by a gross 50 year old with shit-tier DNA?

>>40856815
>Everyone has sin because of original sin.
I didn't do anything though, so that makes no sense.

Are you aware the word "sin" comes from archery, and simply means "to miss"?
Are you aware that the "seven deadly sins" were actual vices who brought about the necessities of the physical body?
Every necessity today was a vice in the past. We didnt need to eat, to shit and to sleep.
So-called biological evolution happened because we started to eat, sleep, fuck, etc, and got addicted to it. This developed into organic systems, thus bringing what we call "the fall of Lucifer". Lucifer is the anima, a female spirit who helps the searcher. We fell together into Earth, hence physical existence.
Biology will keep being retarded, with humans sleeping 8 hours a day which is a 1/3 of their time, and males searching for Lucifer's light in the female, completely lost to themselves.

>>40855383 (OP)
Basically at some point in our evolution(not in conflict with god, they could use evolution as their instrument, their hallmark is subtly not directness) we were so few that we needed to fetishize incest in order to not go extinct, same thing with kids. It's an emergency fallback. Note that kids are like sickly emaciated adults, likely to die during childbirth. 99.99% of the population finds the idea abhorrent but if we were in an emergency situation a pedophile might save the human race.

>>40858124
>99.99% of the population finds the idea abhorrent
Not true. It was quite common in the past and completely normal. Even today a lot of men would be completely fine with having underage girlfriends if society allowed it. I think I've seen studies also that even old men feel attraction for 11-13 year olds. I don't say that to make a statement that it's GOOD or right, just that this is sadly the reality.

>we were so few that we needed to fetishize incest
All species have functional incest even if they were never "few" so it's just hardcoded into nature regardless if needed or not.

if god god why bad thing happen?

>>40858256
No retard, if God good God why "lets some bad things happen, but doesn't let other bad or good things happen" so there is clearly discernment and choice behind his design.

>>40855383 (OP)
Read them in this order, explains why god a lot of things
1. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36931222/#36931222
2. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36976168/#36976168
3. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37023268/#37023268
4. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37093515/#37093515
5. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37134196/#37134196
6. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37237392/#37237392
7. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37333243/#37333243

>>40859150
Summarize it please. Most people won't read tons of threads.

>>40855383 (OP)
I don't know what you expect to get out of this, godsimps will just reply with "muh free will" or some such copium.

>>40859748
There are sometimes people who have interesting ideas still. And free will can't be the reason, as explained in the OP.

>>40858256
Now try answering the question, christard.

>>40859748
Good, let spectators see how deranged they truly are. Yes they will never admit what they say makes no sense no matter how absurd it sounds because that would require them to critically examine the psychotic beliefs they espouse, and if they did that the game's over.

The only way to counter their ridiculous rhetoric is to trap them into one of their many copes and beat the horse till its dead about how dumb it is, so that everyone who witnesses the conversation sees the real depravity of their nature.

>>40855383 (OP)
take it from someone who takes physical strength seriously; you're a soul-carrier with a connection to god and that's all you need. those faggot synthetic aliens are interested in us because no matter how much they advance, they'll never have a soul; which is why they kidnap and experiment on us. we're extremely attractive throughout the solar system and beyond simply because of our genetic library

>>40855383 (OP)
If devil real, then why a good thing? Is devil incompetent retard?

>>40860911
I don't care about the devil. I ask why the designer of reality (God) decided to make some things physically impossible such as regrowing a limb but he made sure it's possible for old men to impregnate little girls against their will.

>>40855383 (OP)

Those bad things exist because God cursed this world when He created it due to human (angels) rebellion eons ago up in heavenly places. We are the fallen angels op. Let that sink in.

He is a wonderful God, but a stern punisher too and that takes a lot of time. A lot!

>>40861152
Why would God create us with natures that want to rebel, give us the option to rebel and then punch us in the face for doing so?

>>40861164

Free will.

It's very easy to mess with the complex things He created and His plan. Maturity requires one to be patient, trust the absolute Father and His perfect immense wisdom. Some pay attention some do not.

>>40861186
>Free will.

Well no. Not everyone (of the angels) rebelled despite growing up in the exact same circumstances. This means we all have different personalities and desires.

Why did one angel have desires to use his free will to go against God?
His desires come from within. Who made and shaped what was within that angel? God.

It's like making SIMS characters and giving some Sims the trait "rebellious" and others not.
It's ultimately all by God's design, we are just puppets moving along his plan.

>>40858030
Rage baiting

>>40861294
I mean reality is pretty rage inducing.

Jerimba.

>>40855383 (OP)
Who's the moral authority, the creator, or the culture you were born in?

>>40858065
yeah

>>40855383 (OP)
Morally evil things are not constrained by free will.
While nature is the perfect executrix of God's Law.

You need order (nature's laws) in chaos (free will) for judgements to be made.
You think nature is greater than your own will. Why? Can't you constrain yourself? Didn't nature itself give you a moral compass? Is every desire you have worthy to be pursued?

Don't think you are better than the pedophiles. Even you bend your knee to Evil from time to time. Look at you now, for example: making a fetiche out of them, an avatar of true, perfect and pure evil, in order to justify all the evil that you did. As if nothing else is worthy of reprisal.

>>40855383 (OP)
You are god and anything is possible.

>>40855383 (OP)
your fundamentally mistaken, your dna, your maker, is not A code, its a catalogue of codes employed situationally.
for example, you mention breathing underwater. did you know we dont breath to inhale oxygen? like our lungs dont even have an oxygen sensor, we breath to exhale carbon - because presently and with a neigh religious ferver every man woman and child upon this earth offers daily scarifies of blood to be burnt upon the pyers in the mids of all their cells. thats where the carbon you exhale comes from, its the smoke of pyre (yes this is a parasite eve {which is a<n im>biblical reference reference}). no blood sacrifice, no need to exhale carbon underwater.
yU spose everyone you know is chained to the religion of blood sacrifice?
the green man weeps

>>40861288

>> Well no. Not everyone (of the angels) rebelled despite growing up in the exact same circumstances. This means we all have different personalities and desires.

Well, not everyone, but the humans on this planet and other physical ones, did (all the animals included too). That's how deep and dark it goes. Yet, there's more to it.

>> Who made and shaped what was within that angel? God.

You're implying that God unfairly treats his children. That's simply not correct. I think you're confusing free will with the decisions we take. Free will that God gave us, simply means we can think and do whatever we want, doing evil if we decide to. Then we have to deal with those pesky consequences.

God doesn't control as such, He mentally guides us, suggests, and we have the free will to approve it or not.

>> Why did one angel have desires to use his free will to go against God?

The main reason is -- *uncontrollable ego* and envy that still comes from our free will. That really does on in!

>>40865531
God made us. Even beings in the same environment experiencing the same things (original angels) had vastly different personalities and desires.

This means from scratch God gave us different personalities. He gave some angels a personality that would lean towards rebellion and other nots.

You can't explain why some angels used their free will for rebellion but another angel didn't. Where does that difference in choice come from? From within. God MADE everything that is within, so he gave them different personalities.

>>40855383 (OP)
>anyone who believes in an all-powerful God who is also good.
While that pretty much rules me out, if I assume an all-powerful, benevolent god, without the omniscience normally assumed, everything you've mentioned can be explained as a mistake or oversight, where now that creation has become independent, changing it would be tampering with the freedom of the individual and morally wrong.

Of course, the moment you claim that whatever god you believe in is also omniscient, that explanation breaks down, and you're back to the classic problem of evil.

>>40866412

>> He gave some angels a personality that would lean towards rebellion and other nots.

Not really! Different personalities don't mean some were equipped with more 'rebellious'. That would mean that God applies 'favoritism' in His creation. That simply isn't true, not even mentioning the fact that when you'll meet the Creator you'll be faced with what you just said.

And then people say 'God is evil' when in fact He is disciplinary. There's a huge difference.

Remember this -- the root of all evil is super inflated ego and envy. So common in this world.

>>40855383 (OP)
>God made them impossible to naturally occur in humans
You're not an aquatic creature so you don't need to have gills. You're a person intended to live on land so you have feet and not fins. You have ears and eyes and a nose so you don't need tentacles.

What even made you make this thread?

>>40855539
>am i a sick fuck?
Yeah.

>>40855383 (OP)
The god of this world (baal hammon) needs us for food; he is what ye are refering to. God the Father is outside materiality and seeks to remind us that we are not of this world; if we remember this, we overcome the world and its petty deities.
You choose, either way.

>>40866750
>God made everyone the same
>they still had different personalities

Yeah makes no sense.

>>40855421
He just has a really sick sense of humor, alongside everything else. God is the ultimate troll.

>>40855383 (OP)
hmm

>>40855421
thank cosmos not juden.

>why does a good good blao blao?
But it has to be Christian goodness right?

>>40855383 (OP)
It's called free will, not free pass from consequences.
> God
implying

>>40855383 (OP)
you're not taking into consideration all that's at play here. Freewill, karma, reincarnation, soul contracts all working in conjunction with each other and it's all different for everyone.

>>40855383 (OP)
>children can get pregnant
Except for some extremely rare case, that is not true.

>incest produces off-spring (even between daughter/father or mother/son)
Most incest outside primary family (like cousins) seems to be genetically safe. Safer than having children at old age at least (like the current Psy op is).

At some point we were just a small bunch of cavemans trying to survive a glacial age, so perhaps recurring to incest between family members was the only way to make our species possible.

>adult humans can feel physical arousal from defenseless children.
Also not true for 99% of humans.

>>40858272
>>40860029
This question was answered centuries ago, if you really cared about the answer you would read St. Agustine or St. Thomas Aquino. You really need everything handed to you in a silver spoon?

>>40855383 (OP)
I don't think any of these things are sick. Our only moral bastion must be Nature, because we are her's offspring, and if she did us like that, just like any other living being, than that action isn't bad at all. The only thing bad is to not follow your own feelings. Reason must be used solely to get your desires satisfied and to protect yourself from others.

>>40870055
Ok, i'll give it on a silver spoon. Humans are the only animal that can willfully act against their own nature since we are moral agents. Gays being gays isn't because God allows it, it's because humans can go against nature. Incest happening isn't because God allows it. it's because humans can go against human nature. If you're smart you would realize God (nature) actually does punish both with diseases showing that acting against your own nature holds consequences and the bible even says God punishes people acting against him by making them go against their nature.
>Romans 1:26 "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;"

Now, why does God allow humans to have a choice? Because God is love and love must always be a choice, just like you with a girl irl. God in his wisdom knows that far better good can come from giving us a free choice than having us be his slaves. Why is nature limited (which I think is more your question)? You're assuming you know better than God what human nature and its barriers should be.

>>40869796
>It's called free will
Can you retards read the OP before posting?
God is already restricting our "free will" in various way in terms of what is biologically possible. He made it not possible for your to breathe underwater or regrow limbs (despite both being possible in nature) but he allowed it to be possible for an old man to commit incest and rape 10 year old and get her pregnant.

He could have EASILY biologically decided that the pregnancy couldn't be possible.

>>40869874
>Except for some extremely rare case, that is not true.
It is. The average age of puberty is 11 meaning there are a lot of girls who also fertile at 9 or 10 as well.
But overall, on average, an old man can get a 11 year old little girl pregnant.

> so perhaps recurring to incest between family members was the only way to make our species possible.
All species can procreate through incest. It's not related to "oh we barely only survived with incest" because everyone can do it regardless of history. Humans would have also really needed other biological features for survival but God didn't give those either.

>Also not true for 99% of humans.
Again, wrong. It was extremely common for adult men to be married to minor and sleep with them. There's studies (won't post them, but they are posted a lot on 4chan) that a lot of men felt aroused by 11-14 year olds. You might now argue that "umm they're not kids t-they are hebes!" but don't be gross.

>>40870055
St. Agustine or St. Thomas Aquino did not explain why God made child impregnation biologically possible but refused other biological processes such as regrowing limbs or breathing underwater.

>>40870119
> God is already restricting our "free will" in various way in terms of what is biologically possible
True, true.
For example, he created retards and directed them to /x/.

>>40870116
This does not answer why God made "child impregnation" part of human nature but decided that regrowing a limb or breathing underwater would not be part of human nature.

> Because God is love and love must always be a choice
First of all, nothing "must" be any way if God is omnipotent. He is the designer of reality and could simply decide that it can be any other way.

But exactly where is the loving choice if a child gets raped? Why does God not respect the choice of the kid not wanting to be abused? Why is the "free will" of the abuser more important than the victim's free will not be hurt? Interesting.

>>40855383 (OP)
The gods may or may not be omnipotent but they don't act like it. If they controlled everything there would be no point of anything having a mind in the first place.

>He did however allow that children can get pregnant, that incest produces off-spring
The danger of incest is overblown and based on groups mating with themselves over many generations. One brother-sister or parent-child reproduction probably won't cause any problems.

>>40870525
>The danger of incest is overblown and based on groups mating with themselves over many generations.
Yes, but that only shows how twisted God is. Incest is "relatively" harmless for the first and second generation. That means an old Father can rape his 11 year old girl and impregnate her (statistically entirely possible) and have healthy children. God wanted it this way. Pretty design choice, because God restricts us biologically in many other ways.

>>40855383 (OP)
Biologically, we may be just clones of a bunch of aliens who sowed seeds and then left like some god Zeus and because of the nature of all being egoless, we do not have a fixed ego but are just fragmented copies from the consciousness of the first creatures on earth which in this case could be Adam and Eve, the first two primitive egos and then spiritually we gradually forget our original mission of evolving to return to the original alien civilization or maybe the final evolutionary state.

>>40870609
Moreover, because the nature of the original civilization is the final evolution, there is no longer a definition of good/evil, but only actions and results, ignorance and wisdom because they realize their mistakes and continue to evolve, so God aka the gods from that ultimate civilization simply do what all living beings always do, which is sow seeds, leave a legacy and then leave it there because if it can evolve, it will continue the cycle and live in its own way because when it reaches the final level, there is nothing left to say, so it simply drops a few seeds on a stable planet, leaves a tutorial script and then leaves.

>>40870609
we were put here with purpose.

>>40870730
Well the purpose is evolution, and maybe earth is the last planet still stuck in the error loop because the rest have probably moved up a few levels already.

>>40855383 (OP)
why not?

>>40873465
People say "bad things happen" because of free will and not because God is a freaky pervert. But this more or less proves he IS a freaky pervert, unless he's not all-powerful.

>>40855588
he didn't ask you

>>40855383 (OP)
As above, so below, to allow humans to grow in the way with most potential certain symbolic patterns are necessary to exist on high and down low it can manifest into some strange odd consequence. For example, you don't breathe underwater because water symbolizes astral potential and you are meant to navigate and return to land as if swimming or sailing in order to make a catch and then bring it back, and not to mention things associated with the deep just is alien. Children can get pregnant because the root of all power is sexual energy, and all beings have sexual energy, so while sexual energy may change in nature and expand as one grows (puberty) it still has to exist prior as its part of our nature.

Things exist as they do for a reason, it may be a highly abstract reason or to find the answer it is nonsensical to anyone who isn't autistically studied enough to make sense of it, but there is some relevance always to the grander plan. And yes, technological improvements or physical training to compensate for things is also part of the plan to grow your soul.

>>40855383 (OP)
because God is real but not in the way that some gay Christian faggot thinks. You are just a toy. Watch how women play The Sims -- You have neighborhoods of extremely rich and attractive people, but you always insert fatties and uggos to be bullied and made fun of. Then you put in some thieves and murderers just to spice things up, but you protect your favorite Sims from actually being harmed by them. Sometimes if you really like a Sim, but you want to progress into a new story with them, you will age them down, maybe give them a new set of parents, new plot points, but you still protect them. Other sims you purposefully fuck with and make their life hell, sometimes with a redemption arch, sometimes not. Lastly, sometimes you drown your Sims in the pool, you download mods to let you set them on fire, decapitate them, all kinds of heinous shit.

That is real life. That is God. He's not your friend, not even really your enemy. Just be his favorite, or get into his good graces somehow, and you'll live a good life. Simple as.

>>40870122
child preganncy is not a thing dumb nigger

>>40870119
>an old man can get a 11 year old little girl pregnant.
That seems to be an extremely rare case anon. For starters 99.9% of men aren't attracted to a 11yo, even without the roastie Psy op.

>>40870119
>All species can procreate through incest. It's not related to "oh we barely only survived with incest" because everyone can do it regardless of history. Humans would have also really needed other biological features for survival but God didn't give those either.

We survived, didn't we?.

>Again, wrong. It was extremely common for adult men to be married to minor and sleep with them. There's studies (won't post them, but they are posted a lot on 4chan) that a lot of men felt aroused by 11-14 year olds. You might now argue that "umm they're not kids t-they are hebes!" but don't be gross
"Biologic is hecking gross!!!". Either dumb woman or fell for the roastie Psy op. Either way, I'm out.

>>40855383 (OP)
Do you have any idea at all, of how busy he is? Plus he's old and dosen't get as much done

There is no "design", the world just is, and nature's but a mechanism that adapts for survival of a species, be it flora or fauna

we can "regrow" to an extent, but notice how all healing affects very small areas at a time, you can't grow back an entire limb that was lost, but you can extend the size of that limb over time by ever so slightly breaking the bone holding it together
these microtears regrow tissue, adding on top of existing matter, that is the only way an adult human can "grow"

Any animal that has the ability to regrow entire limbs are all very small or simple in structure, even the largest possible animal to regrow "limbs", can only do so for their tail, not legs or arms, and only when they're young. Humans grow massively in size from their infancy. When you lose a limb, your body doesn't have an imprint of what your limb would be like for it to repair fully. It can only repair the immediate area where the damage happened, because the complexity of the biological processes is vast. For a small and simple animal, it doesn't take that much resources and there's not much genetic makeup for their body to memorize.

>wahhh defenseless children, incest, sick shit
Jesus christ the brainwashed moralfagging, are you aware of your virtue signalling? Your whole post reads like you have terabytes of toddlers getting assraped.
The world does not give a fuck about your inane mewlings. You live in society, you live by its rules, even if they go against human biology, the end. And don't get gaslit that these societal rules are absolute truths of the universe or part of your organic worldview.
Don't be so afraid to exercise free thought.

>>40874186
Well unless you're a pedo it's pretty twisted and usually also dangerous or traumatic for the child involved.

>>40875535
>That seems to be an extremely rare case anon.
It's not at all. Throughout history it was entirely normal or legal for old(er) men to marry and impregnate young girls. Even "if" they were 11-12. From the 12th century onward, Catholic canon law set the minimum age at 12. So little girls could get married to older men but they could "only" have sex when she is 12.

Even to this day we have millions of child marriages and pedos around the world.

>>40875781
>child
>after puberty
youre just a dumb nigger

>>40876073
>after puberty
Puberty takes several years. But you can get pregnant immediately, so not "AFTER" puberty but during puberty which often begins at 9, 10 or 11.

>>40855383 (OP)
God made us apes. The Anunaki accellerated our evolution to be slave workers to mine Gold to repair the atmosphere of their home world.

They put in defects into our bodies, such as being susceptible to disease, lower life span and biologically weaker than those that created us.

They also intellectually stifled us, where we can only utilise <30% of our brains - therefore needing many lifetimes to advance technologically. Plus with capitalism, certain technologically breakthroughs are stifled again, further holding us back as a species. After thousands of years we are still primitive.

EBENS gave us religion to stop us from killing each other and instead we used it as another excuse to continue killing each other.

We're the butt of all jokes in the universe.