Thread 40866792

The Azores?

>>40866792 (OP)
They are the left over mountain tops of the land mass known as Atlantis. Pic related
The left over native population after the cataclysm was blonde and physically tall and healthy, they had no sea faring knowledge and even each island had its own language from millenia of isolation.
Conquistadors slave trade and disease was the end of the left over culture in the 1500s
All the "Atlantean" knowledge escaped east to Egypt so these people had no means to rebuild what was lost.

>>40866792 (OP)
>The Azores?
The natives were called the Guanches

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanches

>>40866792 (OP)

I hear there are a lot of demons there. They need Christ.

>>40867083
>everyone and everyting is a demon
>only my religion can solve it
kys

>>40867123

Cope.

I'll pray for you.

>>40867083
>hear there are a lot of demons there. They need Christ
2000 years of warring while forgetting the golden rule invented years before Christ.

We dont need Christ. Take ownership of your collective failure as a soul group and stop wanking to the
>2 more weeks
bullshit. You want a better world then let people kive their own life with agency and simply set the good example that people will naturally identify as holy and divine and then follow.

>>40867041
Cringe.

>>40866792 (OP)
>The Azores?
Not even once.

This almost sums up the demise of these boards, no real intrest or discussing anything it saddens this oldfag.
One word Bot posts and derailing religious types with their dogma ideologies.

How about the old stone megaliths there?
Is there any actual normal humans left on this board

>>40866792 (OP)
Isn’t this where Atlantis is said to be? Anyway, I really want to go, I’ve heard the islands are stunning.

>>40868501
>One word Bot posts and derailing religious types with their dogma ideologies.

Like all social media, a lot of it went into the trash between Qanon and Rona. The real nut jobs let loose and all the fun discussions became tied to Clintons pizza pedophile ring, Epstein, and Jewish space lasers.

Those were some fun days.

Am an Azores was Atlantis fan boi.
Richat Structure is not beyond the pillars nor was there water.

>>40868501
its all been said before and no touches anything new.

>>40868501
I'm pretty convinced about the existence of lost advanced ancient civilizations, but I think a lot of the speculative theories about how things fit together simply don't have a wide enough scope, or get too stuck into weird schizo nonsense like aliens.

The convincing evidence I have seen for advanced ancient tech are high precision stone objects, like Egyptian hard stone vases and other precision cut stone boxes, the pyramids themselves, the Barabar caves in India, and a few anomalous mesoamerican artifacts that seem precision cut from obsidian (spool like shapes)

The megalithic walls in your picture are interesting but seem to be different in technique and style to the precision cut objects I mentioned previously, they also seem to me to be the product of a more advanced ancient culture but one that is significantly different than the precision objects and truly monumental stone blocks like in the pyramids and various underground Egyptian sites.

Alfredo Gamarra categorized the Andean stone ruins into three groups, Ukun Pacha, the dry stone construction with smaller stones constructed on top of older polygonal megalithic walls, like your pic, which he called Uran Pacha, and then the third group, Hanan Pacha, refers to absolutely massive stones that have intricately cut sections, and usually lie underneath Uran Pacha, often sort of protected by it, and these massive stones usually have a lot of damage to them, are sometimes flipped over or misaligned, or out of place. Other similar megaliths have been found in Portugal, Turkey, Mexico, Israel, Japan (see the Nara megaliths), China (Yangshan monolith), but these regions also often have the polygonal masonry walls (Uran Pacha) from a later phase of civilization.

Continued in part 2

>>40869666
dem gets. i kinda have the same issue with the polygonal megaliths, they lack precision. like theres nothing in the image you reply to a guy couldnt make with silicon polymer chemistry and hand tools but picrel

>>40869690
huehuehue, i went to dig up more pics and theres some polygonal shit tacked on at the bottom of that big buddha, how quaint.

>>40869722
i dont think ive come across any examples of old world precision machining in stonework quite like this one.

>>40869666
I still haven't really figured out a possible timeline, but I think one must be open to the possibility that there were multiple phases of advanced civilization wiped out by successive disasters, of which the polygonal stone wall builders may have just been the most recent, and the Hanan Pacha and precision stonework might represent a vastly older civilization, maybe even two different ones from different epochs.

To give an idea of the scope of things, there is a theory from linguistics and comparative mythology that myths of the pleiades are at least 100 000 years old, due to cultures all over the world having stories of seven stars (conceptualized as sisters, wives, sometimes animals) where one was lost or went away, and the last time all seven stars would be visible to the naked eye is approximately 100k years ago, and anatomically modern humans have existed for at least 300K years. Of course an advanced ancient civilization might have been able to observe all seven by other means than the naked eye.

>>40869690
>>40869722
>>40869730
Interesting, the stuff in China and Japan are particularly intriguing to me, see the attatched pic. One possibility is that the polygonal stonework was made by survivors of the younger dryas that still maintained some advanced techniques but much diminished.

I think one needs to look at regions of the world where agriculture emerged, because they often overlap with these bizarre ancient megaliths, perhaps an emergency technology introduced from underground installations designed to survive catastrophe.

>>40869816
Another thing to keep in mind, is that these people probably had technology that is difficult for us to conceptualize at all, the last few thousand years of our civilization has been very dependent on metal and fire, with the industrial revolution and early 20th century representing the zenith of this technology. Metal seems to be entirely absent from these ancient remnants, now maybe that is because it was all scavenged and recycled, but if the tech was similar to ours there would be artifacts too large to break down by simpler successor cultures and alloys they could not melt with primitive means.

The number of dark underground sites also seems to imply that they had a way of lighting these spaces that wasn't based on using fire to produce light. A lot of people have suggested some kind of electromagnetic based technology, which seems more plausible and also might explain the weird geometries and specific choices of stone. We also have only had electrical technology for around 200 years, so there might well be a lot to still discover, and the use of semiconductors is even more recent, since our culture started out with metal mechanical tools and the first sources of electricity were chemical batteries (based on reactions of metals and acids), so electrical technologies were first applied to metal conductors. There might be a whole field of litho-electrical tech that we haven't even begun to wrap our heads around.

>>40869851
not a fan of the theory that barabar is upturned metal ship hull that was quarried into to retrieve something from the hold?

>>40869875
I've never hear that theory, can you elaborate?

>>40868501
Dude, don't be rude. I'm just curious and wanted some other peoples insights on the Azores. Stop being so full of yourself and consider that sometimes, on a damnable forum website, people can get curious and ask things that seem ridiculous and dumb to you

>>40869912
How was he being rude? Fucking faggot.

>>40869291
>The real nut jobs let loose and all the fun discussions became tied to Clintons pizza pedophile ring, Epstein
High level corruption with proofs is now "real nutjob" behavior, but talking about fucking Atlantis is "real hecking fun time". Kill yourself.

>>40869816
i don't think tartaria was the only civilization, there were probably other resets before it

>>40869965
this is the website i use btw
https://cyphers.news/

>>40869896
thats about the sum ofit, that what you see there is 'petrified' iron hull ship that got turned upside down during the flood and then was later cut into to retrieve something.
>Another thing to keep in mind, is that these people probably had technology that is difficult for us to conceptualize at all
ya in2 modern fluid dynamics? theres some curious shit emerging on how the energetic state of water changes if it achieves multiple laminar flow states well suspended in atmosphere and how that energetic change effects people if they drink said water soon after. the best way to achieve this is to let your drinking water trickle down a series of very level toped waterfalls generally 10 - 12 inches in height

>>40869967
you reminded me of this experiment
unrelated but this board should have poster IDs

Why is it hard to understand that ancient societies had all the time in the world to develop and implement advanced stonework because all the undesirable fucks that spend all day completely shocked at the idea of it here would be dead back then for being absolutely useless to society

>>40869896
but, my point wasnt really about barabar itself, moreso what would 10,000 year old metal, especially if submerged for century or 2 look like today? this picture for example is a piece of 1/8th inch think 12 foot long sheet metal that been hit with waves for about 70 years, its already almost gone (of topical relevance, its sticking strait up out of the alleged bedrock at the southern tip of the starfort in malta)

this is the most schizo thread i had seen on this board

>>40869989
hehe i actually deleted a blurb about that experiment from my post. there was a 3 part ama by a very convincing el'ite tripfag named atlast last year. he actually mentioned the mechanization of this concept in his post afew times as a 'water vitalizer'
>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32316784/
>unrelated but this board should have poster IDs
eww

>>40867083
I actually just got back from Sao Miguel. There is no abundance of demons there. It is a land that has what many societies are lacking today: Community.

The people there are predominantly religious too, churches in every little village or parish. I had the honor of attending past week, they preach much like holiness churches in America- think theologically similar to denominations like 'Nazarene'. It reminded me of what Church was like as a kid back in the mid 90's.

The land is also a profound example of our almighty God's wonderous creation. Never once has such stunning landscapes captivated me so, the intelligent design of the island's natural beauty was apparent at nearly every turn.

Blessings to you brother.

>>40868501

>derailing religious types with their dogma ideologies.

I don't see any.

>>40869990
There's a difference between things that can be achieved by throwing more slaves at the problem and things requiring advanced tech, like the precision vase in>>40869666, other similar vases have had their precision quantified by laser scanning and they are are as precise as modern machine parts in terms of circularity, concentricity and flatness.

>>40869967
Interesting

>>40869992
Sure, steel or iron would rust, but there are many other metals and alloys, precious metals or copper based alloys like bronze or brass would survive longer, and if they had anything more exotic like titanium or cobalt alloys there would be no chance that primitives could melt it down to make other things. That is if we're talking 10-15k years ago, if we start looking at 50-100K year time horizons then that changes things

>>40869947
Calling me bot is insulting the bot's intelligence. I'm far below that
And you are rude, you faggot tranny circumcised dick sucketteer

>>40870132
Again. Just because you lack skill and knowledge in a subject doesn't mean someone exceptional is a magician. That's a you problem. Of all the stuff on this board that can't be verified, making assumptions about things that can be because you can't be bothered to have done legitimate research and know less than an average 4 year anthropology degree holder is embarassing. You cant even put your phone down for a day, but do it for 40 years while you dedicate yourself to something and be amazed the precision a human can achieve.

>>40867041
Were they forbidden from fleeing to higher elevations?

>>40870203
say we had to do the same today, you could bring every book on modern aviation up the hill with, hell throw in a dozen of the best experts in the world on modern aviation. modern aviation is gone cause picrel and the like are under water.

>>40870161
I do actually know the subject, thats why the precision convinced me. You clearly don't, because you used the line everyone says that doesn't know anything about precision
>be amazed the precision a human can achieve
You can make something look really nice by hand, you can polish a surface to be smooth, but smoothness is not flatness. You can hand fit parts together so that they interlock perfectly, with careful grinding and polishing, but the resultant parts will not have dimensional precision the same way machined parts have.

As an example, say you want to make a hollow cylinder, starting with a solid cube of material. You need to cut the outer and inner surfaces to be round, and to be concentric (have the same center point). Any deviation in the position of the cutting tool or the workpiece on the face of the cylinder will cause them to not be concentric with each other. Additionally, any variation in angle will also make them non- concentric. They only way to do it is to hold both in near-perfect alignment, so neither the workpiece nor the tool can be held by hand, and you will have to be able to measure the angle and position accurately (with an equally accurate measuring device) to even know if it is properly aligned. Those are the basic principles of machining high precision objects, and are the basis of all our mechanical technology since the industrial revolution

>le precision
>"you clearly don't"
It's always the guys who never leave their basement when they do their 'research' telling people that have done actual fieldwork with mesoamerican cultures about the processes those people used. I get it, you're soooo smart, you've never put your hands on pottery but know everything about it

>>40870371
>pottery
The vase is made from cut stone, basalt in this case, most of them tend to be made from other hard igneous stones like granite, diorite, andesite. These vases are found in predynastic and early dynastic egyptian sites.

Your ignorance is really showing, you don't even understand what precision means. You sound like a smug undergrad archeology student who has just learned that if you don't know what something is you call it ceremonial.

>continues to post uneducated shit because too stupid to understand topic on a deep level
>has no real world experience with any of this topic
>tries to fling shit but sounds even more fucking stupid
>Yawn
>Sage
There's nothing to discuss. You don't have intimate knowledge of the topic, I worked with people who did and had intermediate knowledge myself enough to know you morons who say this shit are just "blacks and browns were obviously not capable of advanced anything". Fuck off lol

>>40869912
Are you the lazy OP, im fine with the thread starting.
If you read the thread. After the very first 2 posts look at the pathetic slop after that until I've said look at the state of this board.
Then we have had some really good effort posts and the thread has picked up. You must be one of these fragile youths that are ever increasing.

>>40870203
You cabbage, if the sea levels suddenly increased 100 foot like 90% of our civilization would be gone.

>>40872348
You must be one of those paid experts to keep the status quo

>>40869958
>high level corruption with proofs
Back to facebook grandpa

>>40866792 (OP)
Bom dia

>>40868501
>I'm a bot

>>40867055
They live in the Canary Islands the azores where uninhabited when they where discovered

>>40874300
Correct, But there were people there before they were discovered empty

>Analysis of the sediment cores showed an increase in 5-beta-stigmasterol in a core layer dated to a time between 700 CE and 850 CE, taken from Peixinho Lake. The compound is typically found in the feces of livestock, such as cows and sheep—neither of which lived in the Azores prior to the arrival of humans.

https://archaeologyworlds.com/who-were-first-people-to-arrive-in-azores/

The fact there have been megaliths etc says humans were there long before the official date. When the ocean levels were lower... Pic related

>>40866792 (OP)
Not real. Hoax.

>>40866792 (OP)
What about them?

They're full of fat portuguese farmers who scam tourists. Their biggest idea of success is buying mcdonalds and either consuming it in their car in a remote parking lot and throwing the trash out the window, or eating it at home in front of their big screen TV. They despise the outdoors and nature and have no respect for animals.

The islands, the nature, is wonderful, yes - if a bit lacking in variety. Volcanic rock, green grass, humid as fuck (prepare for mold) but not warm. Charming villages, literal Zelda type shit, and beaches and coastline right out of an RPG source book.

They're also actually christian as fuck so >>40867083 is misinformed. Every Sunday there is a traffic jam on the main island because people go to church. Lots of churches. No arabs or muslims, a few Indians. Chinese have set up ship there and you can get cheap chinkshit from large chinese shops.

They had a UFO case once, kinda neat. Otherwise, not much in /x/ ways. Nighttime, the beaches, the ocean, tales of shipwrecks and all could be spoopy but it's not.

Oh yeah people in general are piss poor except a few who got in early on the pineapple or meat trade. Junkies, drug abuse, homelessness is a real problem.

Go there, or don't.

>>40869851
that's one of the pyramid theories, yeah? that they were batteries/resonators

>>40867041
That map greatly exaggerates the amount of land that would be visible if the sea would be that much lower. Unless the depth maps are inaccurate. I checked

>>40878898
now check the word isostasy

>>40869851
Superb posts anon

>>40866792 (OP)
More like abores amirite?

>>40872348
>blacks and browns were obviously not capable of advanced anything
That's just true
t. East Asian

>>40879001
It says that the crust sinks approximately 0.7 mm/year in the azores region

>>40880783
it sure dose!
but when it comes to waves, having .7mm of movement 12,000 years after the initial displacement is actually pretty extreme.

>>40880783
tldr
>>40880768