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Anonymous No.40882787 >>40882931 >>40883248 >>40883551 >>40883633 >>40884103 >>40884196 >>40884239 >>40884790 >>40885032 >>40885921 >>40887062 >>40889718 >>40889901 >>40893427 >>40893455 >>40894287 >>40895488 >>40896222
HOW TO BE BETTER AT MAGICK
I often hear eastern traditions and christian mystics say that to do those "unatural things", devotion to a higher power, clear mind, meditation and purity it's a must, but others usually the wicca,chaos magick crowd say "do whatever you want" etc. Which is more powerful?
SmoothPorcupine No.40882931 >>40883737 >>40883827
>>40882787 (OP)
>powerful
Neither. You have a unique soul, with its own ideals and reasoning, multi of which involve a potential to develop a correspondingly unique form of power not developed anywhere else in whatever existence.

I can try to measure or provide current expression ratios of some power maps, without omniscient tier cooperation it is just an approximation for the locality of data.
Anonymous No.40882934 >>40883540 >>40883640
>how to be better at anything

Practicing. It's just that simple.
Anonymous No.40883248
>>40882787 (OP)
They help you focus your attention. Have a clearer understanding of reality, at least the belief of understanding. That helps you work from an authentic and centered state of mind.
Anonymous No.40883540 >>40885908
>>40882934
>just practice bro

Ok, I don't mean to be upset by the concept of just committing to it sincerely, but you gotta understand, these practices require a quasi-state apparatus to maintain the practitioners and the records of the practice, and unfortunately, not many current state apparatus are willing to maintain them, I may just be speaking from personal experience but it is quite hard in my opinion to just go and commit when you already have secular affairs you're involved in
>inb4 just abandon them bro
Many spiritual practitioners will refuse to take you in as a disciple if you are irresponsibly abandoning your worldly affairs, im just saying.
Anonymous No.40883551 >>40883626
>>40882787 (OP)
>Which is more powerful?
Neither. Magic ain't real
SmoothPorcupine No.40883626 >>40883631 >>40883727 >>40890500
>>40883551
Imagination has real world value. Your post sadly does not.
Anonymous No.40883631 >>40883706
>>40883626
Oh, so you admit you make it up in your mind? Good. Honesty is a virtue.
Anonymous No.40883633
>>40882787 (OP)
I don't think its possible to know who is right and wrong. You will have to try to see what works.
Start practicing what is interesting to you and add new things along the way. Also, remember that you don't have to adhere 100% to a philosophy, religion or whatever.
Anonymous No.40883640 >>40896125
>>40882934
>dream journals
Is there any point in these when they're seemingly mundane dreams? I only write down interesting ones.
SmoothPorcupine No.40883706 >>40883712
>>40883631
I also know the world has a massive creative industry, where an artist literally brings their imagination into the world.

Yes, I can imagine things. Are you hoping for a meeting with Fae?
Anonymous No.40883712
>>40883706
Nah, thanks. I don't need your mental illness or stupidity.
Anonymous No.40883727 >>40883811 >>40883846
>>40883626
how?
Anonymous No.40883737 >>40884184
>>40882931
Blah blah blah bullshit larp
SmoothPorcupine No.40883811 >>40883954
>>40883727
Why do people consume art on such a regular basis we can say "daily" here on /x/ and have five to 10 other boards instantly come up as topically relevant?

People care, I don't have a spell to kill half of the hobbiest population who post here. The evidence might not change quickly like anyone wants
Anonymous No.40883827 >>40883882
>>40882931
Post field theory.
Anonymous No.40883846 >>40883954
>>40883727
Everything around you that is man-made comes from mans imagination.
SmoothPorcupine No.40883882 >>40883938
>>40883827
You have to actually convey the formal definition of which field you assume from
Also I can provide answers of this quality on /sci/ since it is pretty data intensive, you would just have to link me a thread since I'm not lurking there today
(Or if it is a time travel episode, my current self does not have a reason to vouch for any version of me from the supposing future who could lurk)
Anonymous No.40883938 >>40883964
>>40883882
>formal definition
Post Lagrangian
Anonymous No.40883954 >>40884058 >>40884724
>>40883811
>>40883846
Art is tangible. Magic isn't. You're full of bullshit sophistry.
SmoothPorcupine No.40883964 >>40883970 >>40883975
>>40883938
The scope of your question is literally the entire known universe, are you literally asking for me to output our actual cosmic horizon with my natural compute threshold?
Anonymous No.40883970 >>40884184
>>40883964
More fucking blah blah blah blah blah.
Anonymous No.40883975 >>40884058
>>40883964
What, you can't do it?
The lagrangian itself is pretty simple honestly.
SmoothPorcupine No.40884058 >>40884070 >>40884474
>>40883954
A wrench is tangible. I can kill you throwing one hard enough

Convince me a wrench could appear on your bed and you would think it was actually magic rather than stalking and break-in
>>40883975
No you're making a ton of directional assumptions

Yes I do void magic. Yes any anon could compose a shadow using the same magic I use to put my mind at the edge of void. Yes there are shadows yet in existence from people learning to carve from the edge of our universe using void related constructs with a high precision computational horizon

I have to actually decide the risk of long term damage to the metaphysics of observation, and then carefully localize the event horizon for one moment, scan in the data forms, and spend like a week dreaming the calculations into my expressible subset of evidenced manifolds
Yes it is possible, actually showing the gravity was accurate requires remote observation technically not in our records of human science, and the whole request is a huge stress point if it comes out 46% accurate or not
Just thinking about going public this hard is extremely flustering
Anonymous No.40884070 >>40884120
>>40884058
Well go ahead an materialize that wrench right in front of me right now, loser.
Anonymous No.40884103 >>40884240
>>40882787 (OP)
It depends where you want to get your power from. If it's yourself, then currently the only way known to us to do this is through meditation, discipline, and training your body and mind.
If you want to borrow power from something else, do what you will. Just be warned it has a cost.
And no, hero dosing mushrooms doesn't replace a decades worth of meditation. Pretty squarely falls into the do what you will category. You basically get shoved into a different perception of reality with non of the tools to navigate it and while it's not guaranteed you accidentally sell your soul to a demon, it's unlikely you'll do anything meaningful. You'll also only be able to return with the aid of more drugs and the more you do, the less likely you'll ever be able to achieve it naturally.
SmoothPorcupine No.40884120 >>40884132
>>40884070
I'm too fucking shy. Leave the room and wait for the sound of anything falling
Anonymous No.40884132 >>40884171 >>40884265
>>40884120
I want you to materialize a wrench right in front of me now, you stupid bitch.
SmoothPorcupine No.40884171 >>40884179
>>40884132
Provoking me will just make me do a ritual to slam it on your head (very gently) and count as a paranormal experience if you actually feel anything, and then I won't have the composure for trying anything else for like a week, while everyone else gets wrenches appearing all over in random places since I lack discipline [comparative]
Anonymous No.40884179 >>40884665 >>40884729
>>40884171
>more sophistry
>more diversion
Can you or can you not do it, you dumb bitch? Make a wrench appear in front of me right now, loser.
Anonymous No.40884184 >>40884205 >>40884480
>>40883737
>>40883970
You always try to derail magic or siddhis and esoteric threads and frequently use the terms "blah blah blah" at arguments in past threads, apparently spend lots of time in a board full of things you don't believe, which one is it, Anon, tried some mystic experience and didn't had the purity or patience to get results, a cliche fedora type Internet atheist?, didn't had the luck to experience anything supernatural your whole life? What's your case? It seems like a deep wound ;)
Anonymous No.40884196
>>40882787 (OP)
the whole "you must be sober" part contradicts the rampant drug use in every religious ritual done across multiple continents in antiquity
Anonymous No.40884205 >>40884232 >>40884247
>>40884184
If you have any siddhis put it on youtube, or better yet demonstrate them in public for all to witness. Otherwise, you're just another pseud larper on /x/. I wonder what deep childhood wounds caused your particular delusions ;)
Anonymous No.40884232
>>40884205
His dad just suddenly left and his mom's new boyfriend molested him.
His obsession with paranormal topics is part escapism, part attention-seeking.
Nyxphireth No.40884239 >>40884261
>>40882787 (OP)
What do you do? Magickwise
Anonymous No.40884240
>>40884103
I agree, I believe the buddha talked about that, using "herbs" instead of meditation to get spiritual gifts is not recommended
Nyxphireth No.40884247 >>40884255
>>40884205
>siddhis
Whats that?
>Anime powers
No, but from where
>Jingoism
I'm not a jingo
Anonymous No.40884255 >>40884269
>>40884247
Direct those question to the anon I was responding to, namefag. He actually believes they're real.
Anonymous No.40884261 >>40884269 >>40887047
>>40884239
For the moment I had some incredible and fast results praying in what some may call trance state, not using drugs though
Anonymous No.40884265 >>40884281 >>40884293
>>40884132
Man, you're at the point where I'm now recognizing you across threads. You're an insufferable faggot and you even glow a little bit. Care to tell the class what you do for work?
Nyxphireth No.40884269 >>40884287
>>40884255
And?
>>40884261
Too naive
Anonymous No.40884281 >>40884288 >>40884372
>>40884265
>changing the subject
I don't even know if you're the same anon but now posting without a name, but if someone says he has some magical powers he should be able to demonstrate them in front of other people. Larper are the ones who are actually insufferable. Do you actually like the flavor of bullshit in your mouth?
Anonymous No.40884287 >>40884300
>>40884269
And then?
Nyxphireth No.40884288 >>40884297
>>40884281
1. To know.
2. To will.
3. To dare.
4. To keep sileent.
5. Read 4 again.
Anonymous No.40884293 >>40884480
>>40884265
I always recognize him kek, he ain't no glowie, don't sound like one, just someone with deep resentment
Anonymous No.40884297 >>40884308
>>40884288
Lmao you absolutely fail at number 4.
Nyxphireth No.40884300 >>40884311
>>40884287
And then what? Magic may be real or not, but certainly don't flaunt your atheism in front of people from the 80's, cameras had been invented but paranormal stuff censorship hadnt :3
Nyxphireth No.40884308 >>40884323 >>40884332
>>40884297
No, I certainly don't speak of my spiritual techniques online unless deprecated, or in person for that matter.
Anonymous No.40884311 >>40884326
>>40884300
I'll do what I damn well please. Nobody here can demonstrate in the open any supernatural ability. They just make shit up.
Anonymous No.40884323
>>40884308
That's because you're full of bullshit.
Nyxphireth No.40884326 >>40884343
>>40884311
Just watch Videotapes from the ,80s, ghosts on cam were all tbe rage.

Magick has rules not to do that shit in public under chastisement of losing power.
Anonymous No.40884332 >>40884336
>>40884308
>keep silent
>unless it's to boast about things he can't actually do
LMAO
Nyxphireth No.40884336 >>40884357
>>40884332
What have I boasted about?
Anonymous No.40884343 >>40884355 >>40885906
>>40884326
>Magick has rules not to do that shit in public under chastisement of losing power.
Lol convenient excuses. Pathetic and sad.
Anonymous No.40884350
My magick gets stronger when I'm horny - might be some kinda 8th House Part of Fortune thing, where everything truly powerful in my life is experienced as a kind of intercourse with The Other
Nyxphireth No.40884355 >>40884363
>>40884343
Like 100% books of the instructive kind have that warning
Anonymous No.40884357 >>40884362
>>40884336
>muh spiritual techniques
Nyxphireth No.40884362 >>40884369
>>40884357
Such as?
Anonymous No.40884363 >>40884366
>>40884355
Yeah, a built-in feature to protect gullible retards from the glare of more critical eyes.
Nyxphireth No.40884366 >>40884377
>>40884363
Need I your approval, cumgobbling one?
Anonymous No.40884369 >>40884379 >>40884402 >>40896403
>>40884362
I don't know, motherfucker. You brought them up like name-dropping without elaboration. That's the trouble with you occultist types. You make suggestive mention of something and then hide away from the light of questioning when pressured to demonstrate evidence.
Anonymous No.40884372 >>40884386
>>40884281
And dumb to boot. I'm a completely different anon than who you've been talking with, though we have talked before. Seriously though, what's your employment?
Anonymous No.40884377 >>40884387
>>40884366
>has nothing to show for magic
>gets upset
Calm down, Becky.
Nyxphireth No.40884379 >>40884394
>>40884369
No, I didnt, I merely said that techniques are not to be mentioned unless no loger in use because you're passing them.
Anonymous No.40884386 >>40884396 >>40884702
>>40884372
No, seriously though... if you say magic is real, can you back up that claim? Or are you just gonna keep diverting?
Nyxphireth No.40884387 >>40884405
>>40884377
I don't do entertainment, I do spiritual practices. What I'm supposed to show?
Anonymous No.40884394 >>40884406
>>40884379
So do you have magical powers or no?
Nyxphireth No.40884396 >>40884414
>>40884386
I don't have any requirements to go after you and give you -with evidence to boot- my junk.
How about you earn it?
*Unzips*
Anonymous No.40884402 >>40884414 >>40884480
>>40884369
Brother, in all honesty, who hurt you?
Anonymous No.40884405 >>40884421
>>40884387
Ah, vagueness. Another feature of the magical crowd.
Nyxphireth No.40884406 >>40884418
>>40884394
I have the power to tell a bored son of Satan apart.
Anonymous No.40884414
>>40884396
Ok, so you don't have magic. Thanks for being honest

>>40884402
No one. I just dislike larpers.
Anonymous No.40884418
>>40884406
Satan ain't real either.
Nyxphireth No.40884421 >>40884428 >>40885523
>>40884405
I don't do magic -the name stage shows have- I do spiritual practices. Of vampiric kind.
In all honesty, we could meet, if I shank you, drink your blood, and desecrate the corpse, I will have proven my claim beyond doing some fluff and having you craftily deny it.
Anonymous No.40884428 >>40884437
>>40884421
Oooh, edgelord so scary... who hurt you, bro?
Nyxphireth No.40884437 >>40884441
>>40884428
I mean it, generally I use blood substitutes. I could rid the world of you, get a monument built for it, and relieve my thirst.
Anonymous No.40884441 >>40884451 >>40884469
>>40884437
Lol ok, you can dodge bullets, I guess.
Nyxphireth No.40884451 >>40884461
>>40884441
>Vampire dying to bullets
Oh, a shiddi I have, yeah... I guess it's a shiddi heh...
Anonymous No.40884461
>>40884451
Hehehe... yeah... well, good luck with your "spiritual practices", Vlad.
Nyxphireth No.40884469 >>40884479
>>40884441
You know, I'm takin' the piss, but if we meet, you can use this.
Can stop the heart at will for more than a day. Problem is some activity may reanimate it.
How in hell do you expect me to prove this insanity?
Anonymous No.40884473 >>40884506 >>40884522
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXpxnxAL62A
Anonymous No.40884474
>>40884058
Okay, so you're not at a langrangian yet, but you're legitinately taking this seriously, I can respect that.
I woupdn't claim to know based on what you're saying if I were you though.
Anonymous No.40884479 >>40884483
>>40884469
Nah. My Mossberg will do just fine.
Anonymous No.40884480 >>40884488 >>40884498 >>40884739
>>40884184
>>40884293
>>40884402
He has pic related's energy, I just can see it in every thread he's in
Nyxphireth No.40884483 >>40884493
>>40884479
Doubt, poison has already been tried (arsenic and cyanide), but try.
Anonymous No.40884488
>>40884480
Ironic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOB1sWH1leE
Anonymous No.40884493 >>40884520
>>40884483
No doubt at all. Mossberg vs self-delusion? Mossberg wins.
Anonymous No.40884498
>>40884480
Kek
Anonymous No.40884505
I bet the aggressive antimagic guy who shows up in every magic thread is actually some ascended master teaching people how to defend themselves from psychic attack
Anonymous No.40884506
>>40884473
lmao
Anonymous No.40884513
Nah. "Psychic attacks" ain't real either.
Nyxphireth No.40884520 >>40884545
>>40884493
You seem to think the medical equipment I suggested, is a weapon.
No anon, it's for you to verify if I have a heartbeat, a pulse... You know, test for undeath.
You're amusing, whats the harm in tedting for a pulse on a larper, haha :)
Anonymous No.40884522 >>40884544
>>40884473
I'm convinced gymbros are warlocks
Anonymous No.40884544 >>40884555
>>40884522

If you've ever been extremely out of shape for a long time & then got in shape, it does have profound psychological effects. You see how different your face looks in the mirror, feel how totally changed the sensual experience of being in your body is, and think "well if that can be changed, what else about my reality can I change?"
Anonymous No.40884545 >>40884552 >>40884604
>>40884520
Fuck if I know if you have bradycardia or something, bro. Get an ECG or some shit. I'm just telling you right now, if you make coy suggestions about shanking me or whatever, my Mossberg waits for you.
Nyxphireth No.40884552 >>40884563
>>40884545
Oftenly, if I avoid blood or substitutes, my blood starts rotting inside, you're giving me insanities to think about, maybe film with paper and lancet.
Anonymous No.40884555
>>40884544
>i have nice pecs
>surely this means i can jump from one building to another
I'm only half joking. There's things you can control in life, and things you can't. It behooves everyone to discern which is which lest reality bricks them.
Anonymous No.40884563 >>40884571
>>40884552
I'm not a hematologist, dude. Whatever physical shit you got, you have my sympathies. But I'm not entertaining anybody's chunibyo fantasies.
Nyxphireth No.40884571 >>40884576
>>40884563
What fantasies, clown.
Do a practice, practice thoroughly, you'll end up where you want.
Skeptics are born because people want it now, I had my hughest achievement in 2008. I didnt quit.
Anonymous No.40884576 >>40884581
>>40884571
Lol ok, Vlad. Ok.
Nyxphireth No.40884581 >>40884585
>>40884576
Why not?
Start soft but steady, do daily meditation, build from there.
Anonymous No.40884585 >>40884590
>>40884581
Because vampires ain't real. Duh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vULYUy4buw
Nyxphireth No.40884590 >>40884604
>>40884585
We're talking slow conditioning with microchanges + Cheevo in a rather unusual meditation path.
You'd be surprised about yourself.
Me? All I can offer is: we meet? You test for pulse.
Anonymous No.40884604 >>40884616
>>40884590
Already addressed here >>40884545. Meditation to train patience and clarity of mind is one thing. But this vampire shit you've laid out is a whole different class of clownery.
Anonymous No.40884616
>>40884604
fr i was on his side watching you both shitpost at each other
but that vampirism crap is just anne rice fake and gay though
SmoothPorcupine No.40884665 >>40884676
>>40884179
Not if I feel pressured, no! I was trying to be honest for the sake of ritual coordination. Just forming a bond to immediately run away isn't fair, and if I was gonna hit you... There is a part of me which goes "you should be their gf" to justify how you can do rituals easy if the cost is manipulated.

I don't have a good context for emotional training right now, and since seven shadows left when they felt my reaction was 'lame' it makes me wonder if just having it fall (when there isn't anyone to watch) might not actually work on a sustainable level

Thesis aspect says it ultimately requires trust since I don't feel a lethal intent from you
Anonymous No.40884676 >>40884731
>>40884665
>Not if I feel pressured
LMAO look, man. I don't know if you're a larper or mentally ill or a mixture of both. But in any case, you clearly don't have magical superpowers.
SmoothPorcupine No.40884702 >>40884757
>>40884386
Holding the reality stone would not stop me from asserting "'real' is too vague" in an open ampitheater.
Anonymous No.40884724 >>40884752
>>40883954
Art is magic. I transfer my will and imagination into a "symbol" or medium of some sort that has an effect on the viewer/listener. A painting, song, a quote can have immeasurable effect, changing the course of history.
Anonymous No.40884729 >>40884757
>>40884179
Convince me you're not a bot....
SmoothPorcupine No.40884731 >>40884757
>>40884676
You can die freely, I don't see value in your thought process if you think anyone gave up on any challenge in this thread
Anonymous No.40884739 >>40884777
>>40884480
Isn’t he that faggot that likes to call people larpers but everytime someone ask for a photo of him to proove black magick is real he never accepts
Anonymous No.40884752 >>40884776
>>40884724
>muh magic cum doodles
weak....
Anonymous No.40884757 >>40884782 >>40884857
>>40884729
Convince me magic is real. You can't.

>>40884702
Lol wut is this sperging?

>>40884731
I'm still waiting for you to make a wrench appear in front of me like you said you would.
Anonymous No.40884776 >>40884781
>>40884752
You see a portrait of a man, you might recognize him. Everything you know about him surface into your consciousness. In reality it's a hallucination, it's just paint pigment applied in a pattern that your mind interpret and construct into something recognizable.
Anonymous No.40884777 >>40884800
>>40884739
>doxxing is black magic(k)
lmao ok, retard.
Anonymous No.40884781 >>40893486
>>40884776
ok, now shoot some fireballs from your hands or whatever
this mundane crap you present as magic is just normal life
Anonymous No.40884782 >>40884789
>>40884757
You can only be convinced by your own experiences. I don't care what you believe or don't.
Anonymous No.40884789
>>40884782
Uh huh... you don't care so much that you can't help but keep coming back trying to beat me over the head with the magic stick. Magic ain't real, bro.
Anonymous No.40884790
>>40882787 (OP)
U r so funny. Should I do what I want to do. Or do what I don't wanna do. Spoiler alert NIGGA. It's impossible to do something you don't want to do. If that doesn't answer ur question idk what WILL
Anonymous No.40884800 >>40884812 >>40884824 >>40884829 >>40884855
>>40884777
Like I said
>N-No bro..theyll dox me bro, eerh your shit don't work bro

Everytime, fucking pussy
Anonymous No.40884812 >>40884824
>>40884800
well, if you need a picture, try it with a famous person
make someone famous drop dead, right fucking now
Anonymous No.40884824
>>40884812
Right?

>>40884800
Do Elon Musk or Bill Gates. Someone highly visible.
Anonymous No.40884829 >>40884886
>>40884800
Why skeptics are usually cowards? I know some atheists and all of them are weak and frail, the firsts to run in any dangerous situation
Anonymous No.40884831 >>40884882 >>40885438
>has no magic
>just irrelevant insults
fucking lol
Anonymous No.40884855
>>40884800
Now I'm interested too. Pick a celebrity and tell us which one. Make him or her die by tomorrow.
SmoothPorcupine No.40884857 >>40884876
>>40884757
I did not say this. My ritual was for finding one mysteriously on your bed. The wrench could appear a week from now and it would count for me.

You would feel stalked, easily. Proving anything is impossible for you at the point any rational explanation is creepy and extremely intrusive. I don't care if you asked for proof. Going out of my way to comfort you after the fact is a separate concern to the decision for sending an inanimate object. The first evasion was to my challenge, convince me I get a believer out of this. You really expect me to teleport a bunch of tools into different rooms until someone calls the FBI over apparent stalking and object insertion? The numbers don't add up, it will not scale to a point of actual public revelation

People are too vague, loyalty too rigid, and practice too finicky, for anyone to get enough MOMENTUM to prove it at a reasonable scale, even apparently me. Trying to argue over what qualifies as "real" will just fuck the conversation over in a new different way which doesn't make for long term success. Much "easier" to do a one-time wrench spell, even if it just for one person, except getting any time variable right is important for making the evidence come up in thread. Other anons won't know anything if we already saw the thread go into the archive

EXCEPT

...then I know the request is personal, and I get embarrassed whenever doing... Y'know. When you're their "first" (contact with any occult evidence)
Anonymous No.40884876 >>40884911
>>40884857
All those words and still no magic. You don't argue for the existence of your ability to ride a bike through rhetoric. You simply demonstrate your ability to ride a bike. You are fake and boring, dude.
Anonymous No.40884882 >>40884968 >>40884973
>>40884831
You never accept the challenge pussy, samefagging wont hide your fear,not to a random famous person, TO YOU almighty skeptic, I'll make it easy, Your name and address aren't necessary just Record a video of your face and eyes, in some closet or anywhere that wont give your location and the screen of your pc or phone prooving the (YOU) in your posts, or you will again give what yourself often call in the threads "convenient excuses"? Coward
Anonymous No.40884886
>>40884829
Is it really nescessary to ask
SmoothPorcupine No.40884911 >>40885111
>>40884876
First, you're responding fallaciously. I haven't argued for the ability, I haven't made any claim or argument. You have assumed a behavior not evident from my text.

Second, yes I do. Any more formal setting I would put forward the relevant arguments, ease the client into understanding, and develop rapport to gain consent prior to the ritual effect. Trying to get insistent makes me not want to continue. I'm not like a trained combat mage who can cast lethal fire pellets into enemy flesh

Third I would definitely alter fate, incarnate as a female with similar life path a–
Anonymous No.40884968 >>40884977 >>40884984
>>40884882
>samefagging
jfc that is the laziest and irrelevant accusation yet
a bunch of us challenged you to bump off a famous person with your black magic
do that shit first, asshole
Anonymous No.40884973
>>40884882
Kill Bill Gates with your black magick, bro.
Anonymous No.40884977 >>40884981 >>40884985
>>40884968
Kek always running from the challenge since all the past threads you try to derail with your unsufferable faggotry, always an excuse
Anonymous No.40884981
>>40884977
>is given the chance to show his black magic
>makes excuses
lmao every fucking time, fucking pussy
Anonymous No.40884984 >>40885003
>>40884968
And you're lazy samefagger, not a good one, and everyone recognizes you and your pattern in every thread
Anonymous No.40884985 >>40885022
>>40884977
Can you or can you not kill Bill Gates using black magick?
Anonymous No.40884988 >>40885022
>can't kill bill gates with his black magick
>makes excuses and diverts attention with accusations of samefagging
everytime.... fucking pussy
Anonymous No.40885003 >>40885238
>>40884984
Psst.. hey! Is Bill Gates dead yet?
Anonymous No.40885022 >>40885029
>>40884985
I pitty people like you, not only an unbeliever but a coward one that's afraid of something happening to himself and try to use other random "famous people" then samefag to save face, just Record the video bro, what youre afraid of, isn’t it just larp? it's not gonna work remember kek, see you in the next magick thread pussyboy, EVERYONE recognizes you faggot, always, then you try to copy the pattern of others, fucking autistic >>40884988

Just Record the video, bye
Anonymous No.40885029
>>40885022
I think Bill Gates is still alive, bro.
Anonymous No.40885032
>>40882787 (OP)
I specifically came to earth to manipulate reality in order to hardwire some tough love into the collective consciousness.
Anonymous No.40885111
>>40884911
Oh, ok. So what you're saying is you don't have any magical powers. Cool. That's all I wanted from you, some real honesty.
David No.40885238
>>40885003
Did he whistleblow w/ "How to Lie with Statistics" and the comment re Epstein "you have to be careful", or was he set up to do it?

Either way, I can't imagine what he's going through. If he never harmed anyone I hope he is doing OK. Just because nobody should have to go through that kind of ritual. Is he really at fault? If it wasn't him it was going to be somebody else. Who knows.
Anonymous No.40885266 >>40885344
Everyone gets pissed at you when you try to find some sort of synthesis because that's how you get the most out of Spirituality. Remember the Babel stories? The languages, cultures and ideas were all fractured. If you scrape a concentrated residue of them all together and mix it up, you'll get a good idea of the bigger picture.
If you want an idea of how it looks, it might look like you thinking Apollo is cool and "becoming him" using Deity Yoga or finding out ways to spiritually "court" Artemis-Parvati.
>do whatever you want
No, he was saying to discover and perform your True Will.
>devotion to a higher power, clear mind, meditation and purity is a must
Not really. The biggest boon is the right genetics geared toward said True Will. Are you meat to be very creative to help others out? Your best placements will be Industrial. To explain otherwise, you can indeed benefit from this list, but it's no requirement. Yes, working with "higher powers" is a huge benefit and I suggest it, just like I suggest learning to control your inner world, better tune the Endocrine system and not soak up all the distractions you can.
>more powerful
That's not how you measure "Power". Maybe you should study and then meditate on the idea of Power, anon. I highly suggest it. Can I suggest 48 Laws of Power while you're at it? Then can I suggest a deep meditation on what Power is, all the ways it can be exerted and cultivated and, finally, novel channels or methods of concentration.
David No.40885344 >>40885348 >>40885353
>>40885266
>I suggest 48 Laws of Power while you're at it?
I don't know who you're writing to, but that book is comical in how evil it is, and while I understand the concepts therein, it's also disgusting to me. Or a less emotional way to put it is, short sighted.

How do you think "the right genetics" comes about? Through black tar tinkering?
David No.40885348 >>40885358
>>40885344
Related question. If you genetically modify your kids, would they still see you the same as parents, or would they feel more like adopted children, or worse?
David No.40885353
>>40885344
Also, 48 laws of power vs the gemara, empirically, how was it?
David No.40885358
>>40885348
Even the gemara understands group dynamics.
48 laws of power is in comparison is incelious.
Nyxphireth No.40885438 >>40885464
>>40884831
Just as irrelevant as you.
A book of magick: 15€
An internet fee: variable, oftenly pricier.
Guess we neednt your permission to try, irrelevant one.
Anonymous No.40885464 >>40885489 >>40885512
>>40885438
weren't you the guy who believes he's a vampire or whatever retarded shit?
lmao fuck i care what you think or believe? you're literally a cosplayer
Anonymous No.40885478 >>40885491 >>40893168
Guys, I think I am going insane.
I used to come to this board semi regularly a while back during the pandemic and remembered you folks.
Here is what has been going on:
A couple this during this last week I came across what can only be described as a "time dillation".
The first day I was working and I managed to do what I usually do within 3-4 hours within what I checked was 30 mins on the clock. This could also be measured by the videos I had playing on the background, each one amounting to around 20 mins and I had watched several of them. Again, only 30 mins had gone by. It was around 00:30 when I started and upon checking the clock I was barely past 1:00
At first I dismissed it as some sort of sleepy,drowsiness or clock failure when going to sleep, but it happened again a couple days later.
I was watching a TV series in which the episodes are an hour long each after hving worked, once again around 00:30, and when I went to bed it was roughly 1:30... the episodes I watched alone should've amounted to 3 hours, let alone the time I had worked before watching them.
Does anyone have any experience with similar stuff?
I even considered going to a physician or speaking with my psychologist to see if I am not going insane or sick, like wtf.
I feel like it is happening again right now. I have written this all in under a minute, all the while pausing and thinking about how to describe everything.
Nyxphireth No.40885489 >>40885509
>>40885464
Yes.
Whats wrong with it?
What do I care about what you have to say? Or anyone ever?
In the adult world, which you will hopefully enter one day, anyone will disregard your bullshit controlling puke and research for themselves.
Anonymous No.40885491 >>40885499
>>40885478
If true, then use it to your advantage instead of freaking out.
Anonymous No.40885499
>>40885491
Bruh that is what I am trying to figure out here Q_Q
Anonymous No.40885509 >>40885515
>>40885489
lol you're not adult, castlevania. you're a man-child.
do whatever nonsense you want but it'll still be nonsense
Anonymous No.40885512 >>40885523
>>40885464
>weren't you the guy who believes he's a vampire
What?
Nyxphireth No.40885515 >>40885519 >>40885535
>>40885509
Question for wonderfedora.
This is a book on magick, books on magick (and magick itself) have been arround since writing was a thing, magick predates religion

But for some reason, wonderfedora here, has figured it out, this practice that was banned for the pooulace, but allowed for the kings/queens magician, is somehow a scam.

Keep up, read more than comic books, one day, your mind will be there: double digit iq.
Nyxphireth No.40885519 >>40885535
>>40885515
Forgot my pic
Anonymous No.40885523 >>40885524 >>40885533
>>40885512
>>40884421
Nyxphireth No.40885524 >>40885534 >>40885535
>>40885523
I don't, I do spiritual stuff.
Anonymous No.40885533 >>40885536
>>40885523
Jesus fucking Christ. The juvenile desperation.
Nyxphireth No.40885534 >>40885545
>>40885524
And now that you 'member things, prove also you can ve honest and explain genuinely why a King would have a court mage but not witches if magick isn't real.
Anonymous No.40885535 >>40885543
>>40885515
>>40885519
>>40885524
like i said, do whatever nonsense you want
it's still nonsense
Nyxphireth No.40885536
>>40885533
Look incel, and don't claim volcel vecause you'd jump at a granny, just explain why a King would have a court mage but not witches in the villa
Nyxphireth No.40885543
>>40885535
So you are defeated and have no retort, thank you. Now please kill yourself so we don't have to deal with your temper tanty.
Anonymous No.40885545 >>40885550 >>40885551
>>40885534
explain to me why a magician can't just go in a lab and prove magic works?
Nyxphireth No.40885550 >>40885553 >>40885555
>>40885545
Like, John Fucking Dee? Court Mage of Elizabeth? Who kept notes?
Anonymous No.40885551 >>40885553
>>40885545
Because it's bullshit that doesn't hold up in the light of scrutiny.
Nyxphireth No.40885553 >>40885564
>>40885551
See>>40885550
Anonymous No.40885555 >>40885639
>>40885550
oh the one whose scryer convinced him to swap wives?
because the "angels" told him so? lmao
Anonymous No.40885564 >>40885570
>>40885553
Bro, Dee died in poverty. Even if magic works, dying poor is not one of my goals.
Nyxphireth No.40885565 >>40885572 >>40885730
https://www.specularium.org/
Introducing: Peter J Carrol
Author of the fucking book I posted.
Scientific formed, go read him fag, I bet you cant read his equations.
Nyxphireth No.40885570
>>40885564
You will die poor or not, thr point is that everyone post Liber Null keeps a register of repeatable testable magical formulae as a standard (others did before, it wasnt the standard tho).
Anonymous No.40885572 >>40885580
>>40885565
now you're just jumping all over the place
but explain his equations to me
Nyxphireth No.40885580 >>40885599
>>40885572
What for? They're irrelevant.
Magick nowadays is.
a) Get result.
b) Make sure it's repeatable.
Ring any bells?
Nyxphireth No.40885598
It's rather simple.
Magick is energy in motion guided by will intent, purely physics.
You're retarded.
In 2010 I took up chaos magick, I did shit, but I quit over spiritual pursuits
Anonymous No.40885599 >>40885608
>>40885580
>can't explain the equations himself either
i've read carroll before. his equations are delusions in clothes of science
by his own admission some variables in his equations can't be measured
what is science without measurement?
Nyxphireth No.40885608 >>40885613
>>40885599
If I make a sigil, eg, for mental clarity, and I get clarity, I can bloody well measure it as a success.

>Muh I'm just a charlatan disrupting the board
I bloody know, fag
Anonymous No.40885613 >>40885621
>>40885608
>brings up something he can't actually discuss in detail
>gets mad
lmao ok, castlevania
Nyxphireth No.40885621 >>40885627
>>40885613
Whats to discuss?
Learn to do it well, techniques are all over the pkace.
There's nothing to argue, magick either works for you or it doesnt.
And magick by itself does work, as it's physics, so troubleshoot yours and stop bugchasing arround, dogfucker
Anonymous No.40885627 >>40885637
>>40885621
lol no, physics is physics
magic is just make-belief
Anonymous No.40885629
Wtf? He was the one that brought up equations. Now he just wants to gloss over it like he never mentioned it.
Nyxphireth No.40885637 >>40885643 >>40885697
>>40885627
Ok, tell me where I lost you, retard.
Elements: Will, intent, energy and a target.
With the ritual, we set the energy in motion using the will and intent of the magician to goad it to the target.
100% Physics.
Anonymous No.40885639 >>40885662
>>40885555
Huh. A skeptic who knows his magic history. I mostly don't like you, but I don't like Enochian magic either.
Anonymous No.40885640
Anonymous No.40885643 >>40885647
>>40885637
mm hmmm... 4 kids in a longcoat pretending to be physics
lol you just did a carroll
Nyxphireth No.40885647 >>40885656
>>40885643
Which part of what I described, physics book in hands, isn't physics?
Anonymous No.40885656 >>40885669
>>40885647
physics has measurements for one thing
what are the units for "will", "intent", "target"
define "energy" too
Anonymous No.40885662 >>40885667
>>40885639
why not?
Anonymous No.40885667
>>40885662
An absence of sufficient safety measures
Nyxphireth No.40885669 >>40885674
>>40885656
No, not neccessarily, that's what we call, moving the goalpost.
Just like you don't know the push in newtons of a golf ball, I don't the push in energy.
Your goalpost moving is childish
Anonymous No.40885674
>>40885669
you asked my how it wasn't physics...
and i told you how it wasn't physics...
lmao i don't think you know what physics is
Anonymous No.40885686
Bro just wants the esthetics of physics without any of the actual nitty gritty.
Anonymous No.40885697 >>40885719
>>40885637
can you put that in equation form? also, what about time?
are there equations that show us how long it takes for the magic to happen?
Nyxphireth No.40885719 >>40885722
>>40885697
I do not think you're looking at this the right way: You're MY entertainment, not the other way
Anonymous No.40885722 >>40885761
>>40885719
>n-no you're a poopyhead
dude, you suck at physics and if magic was real, you'd suck at that too
Anonymous No.40885730
>>40885565
Not that anon, but I read it and it represents a very finite theory with a lot of core assumptions.
His 3d time proof sketch, while interesting is very hand wavey.
Nyxphireth No.40885761 >>40885773
>>40885722
I do not think I care for your opinion.
I have attracted the ire of many, and you're just the one guy I care less about.
Magick or not.
Btw, I use very menacingly looking damascus steel hunting knives when magick doesnt hit.
I mention this part because homosexuals like you generally learn a few protection measures beyond what common mages learn, and troll the internet with this Knowledge, searching for novices.
Likewise, I like abusing people aswell.
This way of talking? It primes you.

Now, pompous faggot, tell me again how you don't believe. I don't buy it.
>You tried magic
No, but I might try a psionic slice...
Anonymous No.40885773 >>40885781
>>40885761
lol what're you gonna do? shank me too like you threatened the other guy?
dude, whatever is going on in your life that makes you like this, i hope you get help.
Nyxphireth No.40885781 >>40885788
>>40885773
I do aswell.
I need lots of help.
With morons.
Anonymous No.40885788 >>40885804
>>40885781
sorry, dude. i can't help you with yourself.
Nyxphireth No.40885804 >>40885811
>>40885788
No, I'm fine, larping is part of vampirism.
You however are morons.
Did it hurt? I do not know if you felt anything. I do this shit for feeding.
Feel bad?
Anonymous No.40885811 >>40885819
>>40885804
>larping is part of vampirism
lmao the sudden slip of self-awareness
Nyxphireth No.40885819 >>40885849
>>40885811
It is. Shit man, even psychologists admit we're real. Me? I'm fucked, I need blood too. You never read one of these books?
You'd see.
Anonymous No.40885849 >>40885914
>>40885819
heh? renfield's syndrome? if this is the part where you trauma dump your weird childhood shit on me, i'll pass
take it up with a professional who gets paid to listen to you, man. i'm just here to shitpost and laugh at retards.
Anonymous No.40885906 >>40885968 >>40886566
>>40884343
Search collective unconscious, you smartass
Anonymous No.40885908 >>40890465
>>40883540

I worked 10 years as a chef while doing occult/magic practice in the little time I had. I'd study at work during downtime keeping stuff like the theurgia, kitab al istimatis, Ginza raba in my office. Took me a decade of practice and study of real magic (no OTO, llewelyn press, golden dawn derivative bullshit) learning Hebrew and Arabic in the process to read primary sources. Got good enough i didnt need a job anymore and retired at 33. I conjured 65k in January and another 350k last month. You get good at magic you dont need a state supporting you or a job because you can just do magic for a house or money if you need to. Just stay away from any magic post rennaissance its all fucked up and confused. Especially stay far away from 19th and 20th century "occultism" that stuff is so confused and weak youll never get to a point where you dont need to work.
Nyxphireth No.40885914 >>40885929
>>40885849
No, we drain, just that.
It may however be in your interest to attend a vampire ball...
Anonymous No.40885921
>>40882787 (OP)
To get anything else worth having in life, do you need discipline or can you just β€œdo whatever you want?” Do these wicca whores live lives you want to replicate, or do the sages and wizards? Follow your heart. The truth is within you like a seed in the soil.
Anonymous No.40885929
>>40885914
it may be in your best interest to see a doctor
Anonymous No.40885968
>>40885906
>explains bullshit with more bullshit
Lol ok, fuckface.
Anonymous No.40886566
>>40885906
In fact, the psyche is not inside us; we are inside the psyche.
Anonymous No.40887047
>>40884261
Its powerful when prayer is really charged yes, but I get why people use apparatus and other paraphernalia, helps to ground the will
Anonymous No.40887062
>>40882787 (OP)
bro, if you still play the traditional way, why don't you put it in a blender to create a new style that you can learn more easily?
Anonymous No.40887168
obvious slide(s)
SPP No.40889328
Without trying?
Anonymous No.40889718 >>40890004
>>40882787 (OP)
I know I'm casting pearls before swine here, but Wiccans and Thelemites etc. don't actually believe do whatever you want. "Do what thou will" doesn't mean do what you want, the word "will" here actually has a very specific meaning in context
Anonymous No.40889901
>>40882787 (OP)
Empathy, love, compassion and genuine self-expression. These are High states of energy and consciousness.

Whether satanist, christian, muslim, jew --etc. you stand before the most high every day. God, creator of heaven and earth. The universal spirit that animates and binds all things. Forget names. Feel it. Within you is the divine spark that connects to everything else. Recognize this, and many other concepts will fall into place intuitively. Self-discipline is important for progress. "Do whatever you want" is a motto for alcoholics. Harmony within self and your environment is what you want to aim for.
David No.40890004 >>40890009
>>40889718
I don't think the people who come visit these boards are generally filthy rich.
David No.40890009
>>40890004
The readers come here because they already believe more than others in something greater than commonly known.
Anonymous No.40890465 >>40891321
>>40885908
Anon how did you get started and where did the calling come from to start this journey? What are your thoughts on the LOA?

>retired at 33
Hey thats the magick number!
NotYetHermesThriceGreat No.40890500
>>40883626
They don’t understand. Remain truthful to the pattern and honest in your pursuit of unity with The One Mind brother.
Anonymous No.40891321 >>40893465 >>40894277
>>40890465

LOA is maybe 10% of magic. Its magic lite for normals but the gamebreaking stuff requires more than just subconscious belief/nuerolinguistic programming/hypnosis. Its one piece of the puzzle but not the entire thing.

I was an atheist psychonaut when I was a teenager and then had a religious experience in a cathedral where I became aware of spirits and evil. I could see them. Broke my brain for a month and when I got out I immediately started studying occultism and magic to figure out how to bind them. First tome was the Lemegeton and I kept running into issues with "occultism" being too watered down, broken, and inconsistent. So i kept tracing sources and sources learning Hebrew and Arabic, studying as much religious literature I could from all religions, and I found the keys amongst the primary sources. Real magic is scattered in fragments amongst the worlds mystic, religious, philosophical, and magical literature. You study the sources and experiment with what you learn and you find the gamebreaking stuff.
Anonymous No.40893168
>>40885478
Keep notes. Document exact time if you can. Remember people can be pulled into the anomaly
Anonymous No.40893427 >>40893438
>>40882787 (OP)
You don't have to do any of that actually, I met my God the very day I started practicing love and light based manifestation and the universe reached out and took physical presence and literally touched and addressed me as casually as you would talk to your own sibling / parrent / friend. Here is what I have come to understand as I am able to work out: (too long to pastebinned it)
https://pastebin.com/VpVfVMFh
Anonymous No.40893438
>>40893427
my God-self* dont know why my post got changed.
Anonymous No.40893455
>>40882787 (OP)
I consider myself a chaos magician who focuses primarily on Christianity.
Anonymous No.40893465 >>40894277
>>40891321
>Hebrew and Arabic

I can guarantee whatever you think is completely wrong
Anonymous No.40893486 >>40894293
>>40884781
boom, there ya go, normal life IS magic
Anonymous No.40893655
I'm a natal Moon in Cancer, which makes me suspect I'd do particularly well incorporating The Moon more into my magical operations. So far I've got:

-cast major spells during full moons (esp in relevant signs) or when the Moon is passing over one of my natal placements
-don't do things when the moon is void of course (which seems to be pretty often)
-Factor in whether the moon is waxing/waning wrt whatever I'm doing
-moonbathe regularly (will have to go to a place will less light pollution)
Anonymous No.40894277 >>40894336
>>40891321
Although the rest of the post is fine, >>40893465 is spot on. If this is what you've been spending all your time on, consider it wasted.
The Arabs can't stop themselves from parading harems of boys around in public and the jews can't stop cutting off their dick tips and sucking them. Any culture with such deeply ingrained pederasty is obviously very wrong, just like the Romans showed us (looking at you, Holy See).
If you want to get to the meat of it, look at the nexus of Pre-Egyptian, Pre-Vedic and Proto-European cultures and the primary source.
For example, isn't it odd how the Celtic and Vedic pantheons are so similar?
Anonymous No.40894287
>>40882787 (OP)
If you put out chaos, chaos will be returned to you
Anonymous No.40894293
>>40893486
boom. it isn't and you're a retard
Anonymous No.40894336 >>40894361 >>40895099 >>40895714
>>40894277

More ancient doesnt always mean "more correct". Taught myself two languages using magic so i could learn more magic. And like I said I conjured 350k last month and 65k in january. I dont work because I got good at magic so im gonna keep using the methods I discovered.

The Arabs were masters of the star sciences and abulafias kabbalah is the true kabbalah so if you want to get good like me i suggest you buckle down and get to learning.
Anonymous No.40894361 >>40894421
>>40894336
what are your methods?
Anonymous No.40894421 >>40894519 >>40894611 >>40895099 >>40895326 >>40895359 >>40895613
>>40894361

arabic/babylonian astrological magic, abulafias kabbalah/merkevah/hekhalot, egyptian theurgy. initiate into the planets using theurgy, once you're initiated into the sphere and assume its godform you can wield its djinn without making pacts because they view you as the planet that binds them, use an alphanumeric language (gematria, abjad, ugiritic, or the talismanic scripts) to find their names. if you time the ritual during planetary alignment (not planetary magic, actual electional astrology) you can capture the djinn in the material plane. My ability to conjure money came when I theurgically initiated into Amun (took an entire year), assumed him, and now I can use hundreds of the astrological spirits associated with him simply by vocalizing in their language. which is uncovered through a cross analysis of the early near eastern alphabets.

i've spent the past 8 years slowly initiating into each sphere and mastering their secrets, hidden languages, and spirits.
Anonymous No.40894519
>>40894421
Neat, do you practice meditation? And what your opinion on that arabic magic book, The Shams al-Ma'arif?
Anonymous No.40894611 >>40895151
>>40894421
Sounds legit, but thats a lot to translate.
It wiuld be very interesting to see whata invariants and constants you're tapping into.
Anonymous No.40895099 >>40896047 >>40897872
>>40894336
>Taught myself two languages using magic so i could learn more magic.
While this is a distinctly magical process, I reiterate that the time was distinctly wasted.
>I conjured money
It's unfortunate this is your viewpoint - that you "did magic to make money". Normalfags will read this shit and think that if they just put rose water under the right tree during the right hour of the right full moon under the right sign, they'll be a millionaire. I think you and I both know you attributing your making loads of money to "not working" is absurd.
>I don't work because
You do though. You just told everyone how you went and learned two languages. How are you this stupid despite (supposedly) being successful?
>get good like me
I'm not here to boast, but if I did, you'd laugh in nervous confusion and tell me to take meds. I don't mind you thinking anything in particular is the "true kabbalah" and I didn't come here to talk down on your methods or brag about mine.
With that being said, I maintain that learning Arabic and Hebrew and considering yourself some learned Occultist because of it just makes me laugh. In the realm of Gnosis or Samadhi, there's little relevance to what language the vessel communicates in. Language is just the group of metaphors we use manifest in sigil or through vibration. The language isn't what we're learning, hearing or observing.
>>40894421
You can skip all this hassle and just learn about Deity Yoga, which is a better summation of what you're doing with this verbose take on "theurgically initiating into Deity X".
I'll admit this is a much more compelling take than before. You have to admit it's amusing at best to see someone say, "I've learned a couple languages so now I'm adept". No, you're Adept, so you learned a couple of languages.
>I can use hundreds of the astrological spirits associated with him simply by vocalizing in their language
I do have to stress that this is "Schizophrenia", however. Keep in mind they'll think that.
Anonymous No.40895151 >>40895180
>>40894611
It isn't about "translating it". The data is there and its accessible to you. The catch is you haven't tuned to it properly yet. There's more than one way to acquire knowledge beyond learning a language and reading it yourself. Think about it. You can go and use a translation tool yourself, right? You could also ask a person who knows the language to help you. You can also ask a non-person who knows the information to help you.
Get the idea?
(You) already know the info, anon. You just forget how to remember it.
Anonymous No.40895180 >>40895190 >>40895253
>>40895151
>you haven't tuned to it properly yet
Wtf did you think I meant by translate?
Anonymous No.40895190 >>40895198
>>40895180
they hear 'debastardize' as "erase from time"
Anonymous No.40895198
>>40895190
Well kinda, when I translate something it brings it into the now from all the disparate places in time it comes from.
Anonymous No.40895253 >>40895351
>>40895180
The idea was to offer an alternative way of thinking so that "translate" becomes purposefully ambiguous.
Anonymous No.40895326
>>40894421
could you list the books that you learned all of that please?
Anonymous No.40895351 >>40895399
>>40895253
Translate is the opposite of ambiguity.
Anonymous No.40895359 >>40895418
>>40894421
Based as fuck.
>actual electional astrology) you can capture the djinn in the material plane.
I have several of these talismans and they radically changed my life.
Anonymous No.40895399 >>40895507
>>40895351
I don't understand the pedantry, but if you're compelling me to expand, I can slightly.
>translating it
It's weird you'd get all spergy over me suggesting it wasn't about language translation. I purposefully danced around translation of language to help the others following along reconsider what we might mean when we say "translate" these ideas.
As stated, the contents of the book can be understood without translating from one language to another. Not only are there only so many possible combinations of themes, characters and settings to make a story, average human complications are felt somewhat similarly across cultures and thus our mythological patterns are translatable just like our languages are. It's why David-Wynn: Miller was able to "translate" languages he didn't know, for example.
Anonymous No.40895418 >>40895447 >>40895467
>>40895359
How do I learn how to use electional astrology in magick,Anon? Please, any books,videos or material for study recommendation?
Anonymous No.40895447 >>40895467
>>40895418
Christopher Warnock at Renaissance astrology, the planetary magic subreddit, and Clifford Hartleigh Low (is active on that subreddit, has a youtube channel full of lectures called grimoire TV). That said talismans are extremely difficult to make, and I purchased mine for a lot of money. They can only be made during a 15 minute window and those windows can take years to appear (e.g. an exalted Saturn talisman takes 30 years to appear). Some talismans can only be made only every few hundred years. It involves suffumigations (allowing stones to absorb incense smoke) and gemstones associated with the particular planet. You also need to engrave the gemstones with various images found in the picatrix, as well as sigils, all within this tiny window. E.g. a sun talisman will be made of bloodstone, with solar herbs like lemon and ginger powdered glued to the back, and then can be set in a ring setting or wire wrapped to function as a pendant.

This is all too much for one post and takes many years of study, as poorly made talismans can be dangerous and ruin your life (curse talismans). Careful consideration of the planetary configuration is needed to avoid this which can only be gained by a mastery of pre Renaissance astrology.
Anonymous No.40895467 >>40895949
>>40895418
First you need to understand Astrology. Then you study the Planetary Magic works of your favorite traditions. They'll teach you muh Angel numbers, which Hebrew letters to spray paint in your back yard to make the right sigil and the best animal dick you found on Etsy to wave around at the Full Moon and whatever else.
>>40895447
>talismans are extremely difficult to make
>I bought one lol
God he was so right.
Patchouli Oil and make believe.
>You also need to engrave the gemstones with various images found in the picatrix, as well as sigils, all within this tiny window. E.g. a sun talisman will be made of bloodstone, with solar herbs like lemon and ginger powdered glued to the back, and then can be set in a ring setting or wire wrapped to function as a pendant.
You people are hilarious. No wonder all of you got psyoped out of understanding the methods that don't require this anime-tier pageantry.
I was making fun of you. You didn't actually have to help me.
Anonymous No.40895488 >>40895514
>>40882787 (OP)
It's funny how you 4chan fags imagine yourselves as these transcendent wisemen, when in reality you're more like this. The smallest little thing sets you off.
Anonymous No.40895507
>>40895399
When I say translate I mean turn them from their specific perspectivized forms into generalized set of complex transforms anyone can do, which aren't language dependent in any way shape or form.
Anonymous No.40895514
>>40895488
Many of them do have bits of gnosis in specific categories, but good luck getting them to post any kind of real proof that isnt anecdotal.
If someone claims to have cosmic knowledge just use the following magic spell on them and watch them crumble like dust.

>Post Lagrangian
Anonymous No.40895613
>>40894421
>once you're initiated into the sphere and assume its godform you can wield its djinn without making pacts because they view you as the planet
Source?
Anonymous No.40895714 >>40896063
>>40894336
If you don't work, how did 350K and 65K come by your way?
Anonymous No.40895949 >>40895982
>>40895467
NTA. Someone is actually contributing to a decent thread and all yall trolls come here to shit it up with aschtually armchair magician shit. Also throwing the baby with the bath water because arabs/jews bad is so narrow/dimwitted.
Anonymous No.40895982
>>40895949
Also NTA but your post is even less productive. Also also, you never know when someone is shitposting during a manic episode, and just happens to be a well-read larper.
Anonymous No.40896047
>>40895099
Boast instead of being a snooty little bitch. NTA.
Anonymous No.40896060
Lmao somebody is big mad and samefagging
Anonymous No.40896063 >>40896097 >>40896141
>>40895714

65k for a class action lawsuit i joined back in july 2024 cashed out more than i expected when i did the money spell in January. 350k came through my 501c3 that im the sole member of. Its got a wealth djinn attached to it that encourages people to donate. I pay myself as clergy and admin with the nonprofit.
Anonymous No.40896097 >>40896482
>>40896063
Hi, Joel Osteen.
Anonymous No.40896125
>>40883640
They are symbols, that would be revealed to you now or in the futures.
Anonymous No.40896141
>>40896063
Thanks for sharing anon. You are the only one contributing useful information and experiences unlike those other fags.
Anonymous No.40896151
>selectively answering questions
>by chance has a fanboy running interference
Larp
Anonymous No.40896222 >>40896227
>>40882787 (OP)
stop listening to this fools op.

Do this.

go into bio energetics.
learn a divination method reliable with basic yes or no.
learn banishment rituals
dream work.

by that point you'll be guided on your own. test everything. The path of others may not resonate cause the deities themselves dont fuck with you on an ontological level, magicians that can use all systems are actually more rare than not, look for clues in the lineage of your parents.

Unfold your trauma it has keys.
if you see spirits everywhere ---> banishment.
meditation is not optional, it kees you sane in the brain.

there is a thing like too many rituals, keep them practical, if you are fucked up monetary wise its due to an internal state of poverty, but you can do magic to get by, however building a business is faster. BUT magic is really like that boom you have money in random way.
Anonymous No.40896227
>>40896222
>become a living white chick
Anonymous No.40896403
>>40884369
Your name is Harrison
Anonymous No.40896482 >>40896484
>>40896097

Literally the inspiration for my djinn infested 501c3. "How do rich people do money? Oh. They set up a nonprofit and pay themselves"
Anonymous No.40896484
>>40896482
nta but osteen reportedly made $70 mil in 2024
maybe the prosperity gospel egregore is stronger idk
Anonymous No.40897872
>>40895099
>How are you this stupid despite (supposedly) being successful?

Nta but Life is literally like 99.999% luck. I'd even say 100% for a lot of you ain't ready for the truth that is hard determinism. So that's why they're successful cuz they got lucky.