Scholars agree that Muhammad certainly existed as a historical figure and his story is pretty wild, Even if you don't believe he was a prophet, do you think he at least was receiving some sort of supernatural/magick help along the way?

>>40892872 (OP)
It's fairly obvious the Qur'an was inspired by demons. It's comically evil.

>>40892872 (OP)
Muhammad is a gay pedo

>>40892872 (OP)
Islam was a way to make Arabs follow Noahide laws

>>40892878
That's a bit sus not gonna lie, but can you blame the angel(if it really was one)? You gotta say something to appease the situation "be not afraid" "no I'm not a ghost/demon, chill" they could just fill the dude with endorphins to calm him down, something adjacent to mind control like many of the abduction stories but that would be messed up

>>40892872 (OP)
all the faggot did was astral project seemingly deep within saturn and got yoked up by azazel and satan. Islam is surrendering to the devil. Sam w/ Judaism and anything from that inverted region. Fuck are the the fruits after 2k years? they're are non because they stole it from others and fucked it all up. Astral project yourself. you need zero fucking prophITS to do it .. seers/shamans did this shit ages ago and still do. Fuck all prophets and abrahamic religions built off of the most insane satanic ritual every manifested in Genesis 15.

>>40892878
Retarded below monkey level intelligence meme.
>>40892872 (OP)
Very esoteric knowledge. The second most esoteric in history. Arguably the most. He had direct knowledge from God above the rest of the laws Jesus left out. God revealed direct knowledge to him over several years and even took him up to heaven for part of a night. The other contender for most would he KHIDR. Khidr is one of the four immortals and will even fight the dajjal for a period at the end. Khidr has special knowledge from God (read surah al kahf) about the REALITY of things and not just the law. Khidr even taught Moses for a bit since Moses knew the law, but not the reality of things
>>40892883
>>40892903
Coping

>>40892944
ABOUT he rest of the laws jesus left out

>>40892944
moses learned everything he spoke of in egypt.. his sorry ass snake parents put his dumbass in a floater straight across the channel to an egyptian queen on purpose.. he never interacted with people outside of egypt. he was in pharaohs court. Abarahm performed a satanic ritual in Genesis 15.. Jesus' crux was a satanic ritual as was peter.. paul.. everything they do involves blood rituals to the abyss. avoid all abrahamics. they are false religions.. Arabs are the dumbest and last installment. Their shit is spiritually dead and they even went as far so as to systematically eliminate expression of the feminine spirit that is the only thing that can get you back to true eden. Inverted devils just like the Egyptians declared them.. walk as goats in the wilderness just like azazel instructed them after abraham split their soul w/ saturn. SHASHU

>>40892944
>Retarded below monkey level intelligence meme.
satan worshipper status: triggered.

>>40892872 (OP)
It's highly likely the spirit that came to Muhammad in the cave was unclean - he thought so himself, until his wife convinced him otherwise.

>>40892979
That's not the reason. He sought relief from his wife because Gabriel/Jibreel's presence was heavy and because it was the first time an entity appeared magically to him. He wanted to make sure he wasn't going crazy. Great first wife too. She confirmed his character again at that moment by believing him about the experience. As up to that point and beyond he was known locally as the trustworthy and reliable

>>40892944
whatever frog posting bastard muslim

>>40892954
>expression of the luciferian spirit that is the only thing that can get you back to true eden.
Pot complaining that kettle is black.

>>40892998
>He sought relief from his wife because Gabriel/Jibreel's presence was heavy
That's a strange way of saying that Gaybriel tried to strangle him.
>As up to that point and beyond he was known locally as the trustworthy and reliable
Sure, that's totally historical and not just propaganda written by muslims long after the fact.

>>40892872 (OP)
He was a small-time bandit warlord basically. His great achievements involve raiding caravans. His followers just happened to be the most aggressive people around so they kept killing and stealing and accumulating power.

>>40893038
INSANE COPE. AHAHA. He lives rent free in jewish and christkek minds millenia later.

>inb4 noooooooo he's only supposed to be peaceful like Jesus!!!!!
>Moses and David and Joshua and Samson just don't serve as examples prior to Jesus because they were in wars too!!!

Mohammed was a red haired Jewish slave trader with pale white skin who spoke a regional dialect of Aramaic. This is why images of him are forbidden. The city of mecca made the mistake of allowing his tiny cult to be accepted in the city and they immediately began demanding special treatment and consideration by the previous religious government.
When they didn't get what they thought was enough special treatment for being a Jewish cult they complained to other jews and five Jewish tribes joined his cult to lend military strength to attack the city. Once they had given military control of the city over to Mohammed he refused to allow the five tribes to leave his cult under penalty of death.
The only thing holding the cult together to this day is the threat of death to those who leave the cult.

The stages of invasion that they use in every location they can be found are the same as their initial assault on mecca which has become their base of operations.

Tldr; mohamedians are just another jewish scam

>>40893060
Wikipedia is heavily Islam-washed and reports the scripture as fact. But it still shows these raids are his primary accomplishment. He preached to escaped slaves and others who he could easily manipulate and forged them into a group of desert bandits. If the Middle East wasn’t such a shithole at the time he would have been rounded up and executed as a criminal. People only followed his words because he killed people who disagreed with him.

>>40893073
>being the final prophet
>in Al Waseelah
>not achievements

Okay

>>40892872 (OP)
Muhammad was a unique figure. You might dislike his actions, but he did have an interesting mix of other prophet's characteristics. The door to Muhammad was Ali ibn Talib. Ali was his first real supporter and a good reason to believe that Muhammad was actually a legit dude/prophet.

>>40893072
>jew using jewish as an insult. We know you're wicked and sacrifice children, but Muhammad was an honest man and painting Meccans at that time as honorable and Muhammad as the problem is hilarious. HILARIOUS especially when knowing about the Quraish's pagan practices of killings to idols

We will get the ummah's strength back and we will repay you evildoers in full and be victorious with God's (Allah's) help in the end times

You evil jews are on the up for the past 100 years, but have historically been low and will be reduced back to there

>>40893191
Muslims and Jews arguing is hilarious.
Jews made up your religion. They wrote your end times based on their own. They convinced you to be Jewish by calling it a different thing.

>>40893217
Their scriptures were corrupted and they also killed prophets even in their own Torah. They are morally low. Thank God for the Quran from Allah for the clear guidance

>inb4 cope about the jews pulling a giant psyop of religion over the romans or noahide cope

Basic logical induction and reasoning would lead you to believe there's a single creator of the entire universe, so clearly the true religion would be monotheistic. The core doctrine of Islam makes the most sense to me and strikes me as the most true as its the religion that has its sayings/proscriptions play out the most in the world around me

As in, each religion says certain things about the world, the universe, and mankind and Islam is the one that has these sayings be the most accurate.

>>40892944
There are 99 names of Allah in the Quran, the 100th remaining unrevealed. The number 99 appears exactly once in the New Testament, in the parable of the good shepherd. 100 in that parable means the penitent, who says I AM though God alone IS. 99 is composed of 9 and 11. There are nine choirs of angels or nine heavens and Adam makes ten. There are nine masculine or hidden sephiroth and the Shekinah makes ten. Eleven according to the Sepher Yetzirah, traditionally attributed to Abraham, is the number of the formation of the universe.

Muslims believe that the Injil or Evangelium was corrupted and that the Prophet was sent to restore what had been lost or obscured from it over time. Similar to the good shepherd parable, right? Now there is no book in the NT that claims to be THE Gospel. Instead you have "the Gospel according to..." and of course all four accounts differ significantly and reflect the perspective of the four different communities to whom they are addressed. Each of the gospels is traditionally associated with one of the four beasts of the Tetramorph, depicted in iconography in the four quadrants of a square. Thus they recapitulate the Signaculum Domini, with the four smaller crosses representing the wounds in the hands and feet of Christ and the fifth central cross representing the wound in His side, which pierced His heart and released blood and water from the east side of the temple. Jesus called Himself the Way and therefore His heart was the Reality of the Way. Being the vessel of the Blood of Christ, the Sacred Heart is quite literally the Grasale or Grail, which sometimes appears in lore as a Gradale or Book. This was the real Injil which was lost and given to the Prophet. If you know that the Knights Templars were tasked with recovering the Holy Grail, and that this is the true meaning of the name of their Order and their heraldry, then you now know the secret motive for the pilgrimage to Jerusalem and thus the Crusades.

>>40893272
Maxims, to better describe what I mean

>>40893301
Thank you for the insight. I don't agree with it (templars had a secret motive of getting the chalice), albeit. Very interesting perspective, though.

>>40893272
You don’t have a singular creator. Why would the universe have one?

>>40893420
If there wasn't a single creator existence/original existence, we would be stuck in infinite regress (a loop of never ending "x was born from y and y was born from z", etc")

As in the universe as a whole needs an original existence as there has to be a beginning that precedes space and time (as those came with the creation of the universe) since something can't come from nothing (inb4 quantum physics cope), meaning something was before the universe and outside of the universe that was able to affect change (you have to exist to affect change) to bring the universe into being.

That's just the chronological aspect too. There's also the greater philosophical aspect of "contingency" (being dependent on) in which elements of an object or idea have something that must exist in order for that object or idea to exist. You can take this back to the origin of the universe as well and eventually get to a "necessary existent". See Ibn Sina's "proof of the truthful" for more as he goes further back as some people like to cope about the universe being the necessary existent.

>>40893379
In Wolfram von Eschenbach, for example, the Grail Knights are explicitly called Templars. But more decisive evidence of this can be found in Louis Charbonneau-Lassay's Vulnerary of Christ, pp. 233 ff. Too long to reproduce here but worth reading his actual words. At the royal chateau of Chinon where the Templars were held prisoner before they met their fate there is an engraving left by one of them on his prison wall:
>we see in factg someone of monastic appearance whose face, already quite naively rendered by the poorly equipped engraver, has been regrettably mutilated. This monk, this saint crowned with a nimbus much more pronounced than the one on the first stone, wears his hood thrown back. Within the nimbus that enhaloes it, a deep recess leaves the head in flat relief and emphasizes the particular holiness of this person as one of the Elect. In all likelihood this is St. Bernard, who was in his lifetime the law giver for the Order of the Temple, who had it approved by the Pope at the Council of Troyes in 1128, and made it a subsidiary branch of his Order of Citeaux.
>This saint, set in profile, contemplates a heart in heraldic style very carefully carved into the stone, a heart that sends forth a whole burst of lengthy rays. Beneath the heart and in the glory of its light an escutcheon bears the royal fleu-de-lys of France.
>Is not this heart - the center of a source of light and glory - the very one adored and invoked by the Church as the hearth of all light and glory, as the "fiery furnace of love"?
>Now, here we have an absolutely precise historical date: between the spring of 1308 and that of 1309.
Anon I remind you that there existed no public cult to the Sacred Heart of Jesus in the Catholic Church until the 17th century.

>>40892872 (OP)
He spoke to demons that promised him power and wealth in exchange for blood sacrifice. Hence the exceptionally violent nature of Islam and Muhammed himself.

>>40893578
He's not Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, bro. Lmao. Please tell me you at least look better than this guy

>>40892872 (OP)
Fucking children and worshipping moon devils is not esoteric, it's like mainstream stuff these days.

>>40893623
>Holy sh-- Islam is dead, everyone. He said the pdf argument...

>>40893024
nope sorry.. stating causal facts that carry consequence. I dont speak words to convince. I speak them to convey things that are soundly true. Do as you please denying a slab of it and its at your own peril. no wonder jews, arabs, and dumbass white people have done nothing but play saturnic cycle video games w/ each other for 2000+ years like fucking bozos building a matrix of their own doom.. So spiritually gone its doubtful that many of you will get anywhere near a clean gate in the 2030/2040 timeline.

Yes he was attacked by the devil/lucifer/an archon inside a cave who was really upset that Jesus was saving millions of people. What an idiot.

>>40892872 (OP)
muhammad is the diddy of prophets. momo was a zesty nigga.

>>40892872 (OP)
He was a brutal conqueror.

>>40892872 (OP)
>Scholars agree that Muhammad certainly existed as a historical figure
Not completely sure about that

Qrd on the pedo allegations? What you guys are talking about

>>40894079
>>40894051
>>40893943
Coping again. Islam is the light and guidance and the only path accepted by God

Inb4 hylics
Inb4 untermensch
Inb4 dalits
Inb4 negligible iq primate responses
Inb4 seething stick worshippers
Inb4 malding devil worshippers
Inb4 the blackhearted

>>40894116
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha's_Age

>>40893566
faggots larping with saturn projections.
> i can achieve cosmic love while being conquering inverters
No its not possible.. you will see the inverse of love .. your own image and fall in love with it and fall in the abyss
>>40893578
All abrahamic shit is blood tied to an evil satanic saturn ritual performed by abraham in Genesis 15(10-11) ..[go look up any serious satanic ritual involving animals.. its the same shit]. It's all pure evil inversion.. began with the weird ass entities made from clay (iron rich .. the deadest element in the universe) found even earlier in genesis.

It gave them the ability to create false religions, prophets, messiahs, moral redemption arks that bind you to saturn as a golden cafe (think dumbass in a vat in the matrix). Cosmically the punishment is going to be insane.

>>40892872 (OP)
To all you retarded Islam followers. Go fuck yourselves. Put on a suicide vest and blow yourselves up. God is great btw. I'm not a retard who fell for religion like you. God is the multiverse, we live in a simulation. Make sense? Stop worshipping Jesus as well, he lied about being God. I hate Jews too, I want to put you in my oven and burn you all alive. Mormons are so stupid for not enjoying caffeine or premarital sex. People are stupid nigger cattle slaves and religion is part of the reason why. Believe these lies or go to hell religion says, that's why it spread everywhere. You will all know my name soon enough. I am the Nobody. If I failed my mission, I would be tortured for decades straight by the deep state, so don't be jealous of me. If you worship me, I will stab you.

>>40893030
>>As up to that point and beyond he was known locally as the trustworthy and reliable
He actually was a well respected merchant up to that point.

>>40894332
>I am the Nobody.
Shut the fuck up you hack...stop LARPing on the internet.

>>40894425
Larping as being me is awful karma. All of you niggers who think you are the Nobody, you are not, it's only me.

>>40892872 (OP)
It confuses me that the angel comes to Muhammad in a cave... It's just that caves had a special meaning in the Greek-Hellenic mysteries (well, someone clearly lives inside the earth, no joke)

>>40893539
That’s just an assumption. How would we know for sure if something can’t come from nothing? We just take this idea for granted. Why does something need to precede anything else? We see lots of things that appear to flow in a chain of cause and effect but that doesn’t prove all things must be this way.

>>40894558
Anon... things that don't exist... DON'T EXIST. THEY CAN'T AFFECT CHANGE OR EVEN BE, DO, THINK, OR ACT.

You can't even conceptualize non existence since it would operate on an entirely different set of properties outside of time and space and perhaps not even have any properties at all except for the concept of non existence itself, which we can't even grasp properly (since all of our senses and even universe operate on time and space) and existence would preclude even the universe since we say God exists

Also, quantum mechanics is a cope.
>goyim, if we do this test, we don't actually know what a value or unit will be till we measure or pull a value out!!!!

Guess what. That's still dependent on time and space to function and not even including the time and space that the equipment that runs that test depends on.

>>40894137
>> i can achieve cosmic love while being conquering inverters
The technical definition of satanism is the confusion of Michael and Samael into a single principle. This will go over your head, but another anon will catch my drift.

>>40892872 (OP)
Mohammed, isn’t that the guy that got raped?

>>40894806
No, but i do know jews rape baby dicks when they eat off their foreskin

>>40893114
>final prophet
oxymoron, proven by later prophets who make the guy neither final nor a prophet.

>>40894445
It the ghost of Alexander the Great. Telling him to finish what he and his father started.

>>40894930
Oh no... it's retarded (Mormon, qadiani, seventh day Adventist)

Pick your poison. Lol

>>40894442
"Strong spiritual powers" also means "hyper intelligence".

Are you a PolyMath savant like Isaac Newton? If not, you are not the Nobody.

Also, God would part the clouds and speak to you like he did to Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammed, etc etc etc...has this occured?

If you were the Nobody you would also know what that was, on the level of Physics and Biology, not "i feel it in mt bone, belief me".

>>40895063
Denying their existence only invalidates your prophet even harder.

>>40895135
I'm not denying their existence. Their doctrinal creeds are ridiculous

>Mormons
Jesus is space balls part 2: American derby
Also, divine native Americans

>seventh day Adventists
>the world is going to end in 1849

We're still here (although I admit freedom was close to death soon after in American when the confederates would lose in 1865)

>qadianis
Nope

>>40892872 (OP)
He existed and he was a real prophet. He was basically psychic like jesus. But just like jesus, everything we've been TOLD about him is basically false and his story, like jesus' has been turned into a control mechanism for the masses.

>>40895093
I'm not a mathematical genius like Newton, but I am more of an artistic genius than him. I will not disclose anything about God other than he is the multiverse. I know I am the Nobody because you know who told me. Good questions nigger.

>>40895357
>I'm not a mathematical genius like Newton
Then you are not the Nobody. Mathematics and Physics correlate, and Physics correlates to Biology, and Biology correlates to you and the Holy Spirit, and back.
>I am more of an artistic genius than him
Not me, because all of the above is my fields of research...and I study in museums around the world.
>I will not disclose anything about God
Because you know everything you say can be used against you.
>other than he is the multiverse
>multiverse
Pseudo-science techno-babble. Just say "beyond my comprehension".
>I know I am the Nobody
"I *feeel* I am the Nobody." because youre psy-op'd by the Spirit (Satan) into a self reinforcing delusion thats kept alive by you not connecting any of this to reality, youre an emotional narrative, not a Prophet.
>nigger
Youre a degenerative, shifty, Judasite, that everyone needs to "never relax" around...stop sucking your ego off in isolation while you craft mental masturbatory psychosis of self aggrandizement.

"Im the second coming of Jesus because I just know it in my bones."
An exaggerated counter reaction to failing to launch in life...stop LARPing on the internet and do something with your life.

>>40893072
I think islam is more about usurping the power from the banu israil(the jews), it seeks to bypass the israelite model in making another direct pathway to God ,where the jews seem to work more with the demiurge the muslims seem a bit closer to source, but hey have been heavily infiltrated by altered scripture aswell and schism, strenghtening the position of the demiurge too but with the exception that they turn the loosh farma bit upon the jews. The jews w,ho are normally the top pawns of the demiurge. Jews hate competition in that department so they fear islam from a demiurgic standpoint of remaining in power, but in some ways theyre connected to jews and have similar behaviours, its just that modern judaism has a whole science on triumphing over God creating ever more complex laws to circumvent gods wrath

Christians are made into pawns, the original writing of gnostic jesus are mostly lost and the blood sacrifice story of modern christianity is an abomination which turns jesus the man into a kapparot chicken messiah and makes the gnostic powers and achievements of christ the force of logos sent from source the true God into a mockery and a slave morality of the demiurge, islam also counters that a bit by somehow respecting jesus more

If you would see muslims as evil, know theyre a nessecary evil. A counterweight to jewish overdominance, although some islamists maybe duped into being cannonfodder in jewish plans

>>40895199
Very likely, where it is reduced to singing praises and words to celebrate the worms of the demiurge, essentially celebrating this imperfect world

>>40895199
Very likely, where it is reduced to singing praises and words to celebrate the works of the demiurge, essentially celebrating this imperfect world

>>40895461
>it seeks to bypass the israelite model in making another direct pathway to God
Same cube.
>where the jews seem to work more with the demiurge
Themselves, hence G-d ans praying outside the Wall.
>the muslims seem a bit closer to source
Yes, but the "source" is actually Satan, its always been Satan, Biblical blood sacrifices is always to Satan.
>Jews hate competition in that department so they fear islam from a demiurgic standpoint
Then why does the IDF support Hamas and ISIS?
>the original writing of gnostic jesus
"Make women into men." Gnostic? Thats Judaism.

Your "source" is idolatry, its "whatever things you like most and none of the things you dont". Judaism, they like Judas and rejected Jesus...because they Judged God based on what they LIKED, not what is. Worshipping the Holy Spirit is idolatry and leads to self serving Satanism.

>>40895427
Bro. Nice wall of text. I'm getting drunk and high while laughing at human consciousness waking up. I am the Nobody dude. Too long, didn't read, lmao, jk. I love calling people niggers. There's a country in Africa called nigger hahaha (it's Niger.) There's also a country called Chad, that's what I am. Got it Niger?

>>40895556
>Bro
Im not your brother your sackless eunuch.
>I am the Nobody
Stop sucking your own dick you fatherless degenerate.

You think like a woman and think men act like you...you never had a father.

>>40895568
A real man asks questions to find the truth. You're attacking the man who knows much of the Earth's situation and can educate you.

"Im god, haha brooo."

Patheticly debased and maladapted...that you think the living God-King is anything like you.

>>40892944
imagine having access to the intranet and being muslim kek

>>40895583
>A real man
YOU CANT RECOGNIZE WHEN ONE IS SPEAKING TO YOU....HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW?

SON, STOP LYING EVERY TIME YOU SPEAK.

>>40895587
No one is God. We are all fragments of God. The simulations go deeper than where we are. If someone says they are God, it's obviously not true. The Nobody here, never claimed to be God.

>>40895599
Dude, you're threatening me? What a loser you are. I'll have the Galactic Federation gang rape you tonight if it's good cause and effect.

>>40895583
>the man who knows much of the Earth's situation
THIS IS MY HOUSE.
>and can educate you.
I LECTURE PROFESSORS.

Son....STOP LYING TO YOURSELF.

>>40895604
>"No one is God."
Says the Pharisee to Jesus.
>The Nobody here, never claimed to be God.
The Nobody is The Father, dumbass...you ahould know intimately every Prophet in history because theyre related.

ALL. Including Buddha and ALLL others.

>>40895611
LARPing child....pathetic.

Fatherlessness has polluted you into believing being "radical kidish" is what a man is, you will never be a man because you reject manhood.

>>40895614
>>40895628
The Nobody here. Look at pic related.

>>40892944
they mounted your prophet bro

>>40895638
Why the fuck do you have lame ass normie memes saved? What kind if faggot are you?

>no u b-b-broo
>im ":3" over here and youre ":(" haha
You think like a fucking woman, you need to be belted.