Thread 40908368

Universalists be like:

>>40908368 (OP)
Heaven would absolutely be Ozzy's hell. LOL

>>40908378
Except damnation isn't some liberal fantasy with heavy metal music and beer drinking. It is the utter annihilation of the soul. I don't claim to know/think Ozzy Osbourne is in hell, but this isn't some game where you wake up in a little Nicky Playworld with guitar music and smoking dope or whatever.

>>40908566
You Mr Demiurge are not the keeper of thy Southern Heaven. Dismiss yourself from my presence. I have no use for Ye the Liar Father.

>>40908578
You are delusional.

>>40908723
Awe how sweet of you to see in your black mirror the delusions you face. Interestingly enough, you are no more than a pile of fecal matter.

>>40908566

https://youtu.be/JMWPSN6JBic
https://youtu.be/diwTGq3uOao
https://youtu.be/tlGM0QMtcRY

>>40908368 (OP)
No transgressor goes to heaven by default, but if he got right with God, he got right with God. Question is, did he?

>>40908566
So God is indeed evil?
he will destroy you if you don't worship him?

>>40909122
Different anon here. If you die rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ, the only One that can allow you entrance into heaven, you go straight to hell, because those sins ain't gonna wash themselves.

>>40909161
So God is a gatekeeper who despises free will and wants only subservience?

>>40909200
>he thinks free will exists under the bondage of sin

>>40909207
Rejecting God as your master is what type of sin? The sin of independence?

>>40909200
You have free will to choose right or wrong, much like you have when choosing anything else. God wants us (but doesn't force us) to choose right, because there are cosequences to these choices regarding God just as there are to any other choice.

>>40909214
If you don't want God as your master why should you expect Him to bail you out. You've condemned yourself

>>40908368 (OP)
'do not be afraid'
'...shaaannnooonnn its got bloody fuckin eyes and whatnot mate'

>>40909248
I don't. But that makes him inherently vindictive and petty. I would be glad not to be saved by such a being. I would want nothing to do with them.

Ozzy was a Christian & a hippy peacenik. Why wouldn't he be in heaven?

Unless you believe the satanic panic bullshit. Sabbath actually warned against Satanism, they were not pro Satan.

>>40909320
Hippies hate God. Even their symbol is a broken upside down cross.

>>40909161
The blue comet leads you to a... type of paradise... that's actually fun... and not all about his daddy...

>>40909329
Hippies are more Christlike than any conservative Christians.

>>40909358
Spoken by the same people who worship a picture of Kenny Loggins.

>>40909302
>But that makes him inherently vindictive and petty. I would be glad not to be saved by such a being. I would want nothing to do with them.
No it doesn't, He offer you rescue and you said no thanks, I'll stay in the burning house. You're committing suicide.

>>40909567
It's conditional rescue.
God is a vindictive ex who won't let you out of the burning house unless you say you love her.
But of course, why would you love that crazy bitch?

>>40909581
There's no mention of anybody having to force himself to love God in order to obtain salvation anywhere in the bible.

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” (Romans 10:9-10)

“¶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

>>40909329
>upside down cross
Isn't that Paul's Cross?

>>40911862
It's the death rune if you wanna be more specific.

>>40909329
Not all hippies. I'm a hippie and I love god/the universe. probably not the "right" god in your eyes, kek, but it's pretty reductive to say they all hate god.
my personal flavor is agnostic pandeisim,
>>40909358
Some of them totally, There are some real cool dudes and dudettes out there, but also some real lame virtue signaling narcissists. If you live what you preach without getting caught up in the metaphysics and aesthetic of it all you are doing better than most.
>>40909368
Kenny loggins is pretty cool, but worshipping him is a bit silly.

>>40911933
If you love the false god of gnosticism, you hate the real God of the bible.

>>40909122
You should find out for the rest of us.

>>40911871
I see. Also I meant St. Peter

>>40912027
how about I just say I love whoever created the universe and leave it at that.
Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all the same.
>I'm right, I'm right! Trust me! my god is the real one!
it's all so silly.
>If you aren't with me you must be against me grrr! everyone who doesn't agree with me is my enemy!
I've met some really nice christians, you sure aren't one of them.
I thought the whole thing of christianity is to try and save people through jesus, constantly ridiculing and spitting venom at others sure seems antithetical to the concept of 'leading people to salvation.'. Take a good look at how you act. I'm sure you are a nice enough and virtuous guy irl, but come on dude.

>>40912240
“Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.” (1 Corinthians 10:21)

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

>>40908368 (OP)
Amen

>>40908368 (OP)
He looks embarrassed like the fire is creeping up on him.

>>40908368 (OP)
If you listen to the Essential Osbourne, to me it sounds like he's singing about TNB(!), and snubbing the dark side, as in, 'hah, you thought I was on your side'. He's doing great in heaven.

>>40909161
>>40909207
>>40909244
>>40912277
>Eternal and infinitely painful fire and torture. A place created by God with the purpose of torturing his creations if they don't accept his son that is some random middle-eastern dude with a cult following from thousands of years ago. (no not that one, the OTHER middle eastern guy who also has zealot followers.)
Christcucks are silly.
for some reason they need a book tainted by mortal hands from thousands of years ago, to tell them how to be good people instead of relying on the inherent sense of good and evil god/the universe engrained in us. Abrahamic religions are spiritual traps. Sure you can derive meaning and growth through them like any other religion, but their absurdity and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

>>40914669
>for some reason they need a book tainted by mortal hands.
Fake news.

God promising to preserve his word:

“The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” (Psalms 12:6-7)

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” (Matthew 24:35)

Which He considers to be more important than his own name:

“I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.” (Psalms 138:2)

Which you cannot even take in vain without getting in trouble:

“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.” (Exodus 20:7)

And what kind of God inspires something just to let it be lost to human corruption and error? That's not the almighty God of the Bible.

Also God's solemn warning against anybody messing with His book:

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Revelation of John 22:18-19)

“For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21)

>>40908368 (OP)
there are multiple places for people to go, not just heaven or hell, it's a big reality and an even bigger experience

>>40914698
>the book that is always right? how do I know it is always right and unchanged? well the book says so! so it must be right!
Both muhammed and jesus were charismatic schizoids who treated people nice (which was rare at the time), and they gained a cult following
Eventually their groups of followers wrote fanfiction hyping their respective guy up toting him as the prophet of god/allah and saying that both of them are perfect and have the exact perfect message of god.
Even if you do Believe that jesus or Muhammed were actually prophets, there are so many degrees of separation that there is no possible way the 'word of god' has not been tainted by ill actors or crazy people. here is the path of information
God > jesus > disciples > thousands of years of translations reprinting and holy wars rewriting what is the 'true bible' > hundreds of different sects branching off all with their "own one true version" of the bible.
I'm not saying the bible, quran, and talmud are inherently bad, you can get a lot of spiritual growth and guidance from the three (hence why so many people follow them to the letter), I'm just saying that believing ANY scripture written or recorded by human hands as the 'immutable word of god' is completely moronic.
there are so many holy books that say they preach the 'one true god', then which one is it? All abrahamic religions INSIST that they are the correct one even though their near identical neighbors say the exact same thing.

believing in god and being a good person without the need for middle-eastern jewish telephone book shenanigans is the way to go in my opinion, it makes it so much easier, you don't need to read a book made by another mortal to know the word of god, all you have to do is listen/observe the world and the universe and you'll receive an answer from god.

>>40914814
>>the book that is always right? how do I know it is always right and unchanged? well the book says so! so it must be right!

Knowledge that could only have come from God Himself, like (but not limited to) prophecy fulfilled during and after biblical times. That's what seals the book.

>>40914669
>>40914814

>people know how to be moral without guidance, and will choose to be moral in an amoral culture/society.

It's just not the case, sorry.

>>40909122
It's the opposite actually. He will destroy you if you enter the light. I mean look at the sun. Does this look like heaven to you? Wouldn't it be a better idea to stay on Earth where you wont be boiled alive?

>>40911981
>Beware of six fingers Jesus!

>>40915507
Israel literally asks "Is Ra El" -- "is the sun him" as a multilingual cypher. Photosynthesis exists and the mitochondria are the power house of the cell, that's all proof needed for the fact that the anthropic principle shortcuts to pantheism.

Also I think I need a circumcision due to phimosis.

Try to find more than just a few pictures or videos of Ozzy not wearing a cross or some kind of Christian insignia. Hell, Black Sabbath was possibly the first Christian Rock group.

>>40915624
>Also I think I need a circumcision due to phimosis.
What you need is a shower you disgusting neetin sloboid.

>>40909200
Which God? Abrahamic faiths don't even worship God, but human-invented egregores.

>>40914863
a broken clock is right twice a day.
If there are still wrong prophecies from what we have access to today, just imagine how many wrong ones they scrubbed from the history books because it made the prophets and priests look silly.
>>40915241
yeah, maybe if people started putting faith in each-other instead of dogma.

>>40915664
Nah bro my frenulum is like really short and when I pull back the foreskin when flaccid it bends my dick downwards by like over 90 degrees this shit's completely fucked I swear.

>>40909265
Top kek, underrated post

>>40915752
Guess it's time to cut that shit off.

>>40908368 (OP)
I'm not even a universalist, and i think Ozzy went into Heaven. If for no other reason, simply because of how much charity the guy did and how much he loved going around doing cool stuff. Mostly that charity though.

>>40916434
Salvation is not by works

>>40914698
How does god sending his "son?" to die absolve everyone for all of their "sins", but believe it?

Or god just decided that was the goalpost?

Anyone can answer this for me

by believing it* typo

>>40917322
Rephrase that into something a normal person can read.

>>40917322
God established that only the blood of the perfect, sinless Lamb of God can wash away our sins, which thing we need in order to be able to enter heaven. God also puts a lot of value in trust, so when you choose to trust God's biblical record concerning the life, death, burial and resurrection of His Son Jesus Christ, He chooses to reward you by imputing Jesus's righteousness (manifest at the cross) to you, so in the day of judgment you will be seen as innocent (just as Jesus Himself was) and not guilty of your sins.

He paid the sin debt and all you need to do to make it effective is believe the gospel.

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” (Romans 10:9-10)

“¶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

>>40908368 (OP)
Dude wrote War Pigs and Paranoid, he's doing well.

>>40917398
That sounds more like he is a broker for a higher power telling people a workaround to judgment day to accrue more faith in themselves.

>>40911981
there's no stigmata these days

>>40917446
It's in our blood to be interdementional beings because we live too close to the Sun.
https://youtu.be/a5qbaxYhbL8?si=M9U0tqb-0th99K3o

>>40909161
I would be pretty embarrassed to believe what a bunch of jew scholars invented out of their jew religion in a library 2000 years ago

>>40909161
god judges you directly instead of jesus redeeming your sins, simple as

>>40909161
I thought Jesus already died for our sins? What was the point if we still have them when we die? You’re contradicting Jesus’ teachings, like so many other feral Christians. The whole point is that we are now sinless because he took them all. The kingdom of God is IN MAN. Did you not read the Bible?

>>40915693
>yeah, maybe if people started putting faith in each-other instead of dogma.

That doesn't even mean anything. You need dogma, you need hard boundries for a culture to function. We're in the trows of collapse right now, and it won't do anyone any good that we "deconstructed dogma's" .

Humanity isn't naturally moral, in fact it's nothing short of a miracle that thing turned out the way they did.

>>40920144
>Translation: I can't operate in life unless I have a paternal authority figure dictate what to do, therefore I must enforce this doctrine on everyone else to feel okay.
i bet your ancestors lived indistinguishable from cattle. pathetic. kill yourself, cuck.

>>40916474
That's cute. Go to a Methodist church and say that.

I am a man who talked to a female arch angel.

She has said all get into Heaven after fair punishment if any if they don't deserve it based on actions they are responsible for. You just have to correct your behavior and stop sinning.

I have a question for Christians.

>Female arch angel heals my leg that turned to jello after I stood up on it on a slop and it bent the wrong way at the knee
>female arch angel flew me miles like instant teleport shit (or God did it for her)
>female arch angel breaks my leg then heals it fully to prove what she is
>Female arch angel ressurects dead gecko

Why do you think God is the Universes BBQ master who burns all eternally who don't worship or believe in a book a church says? Or believe a man named Jesus is Gods son?

That would make God Evil.

Wouldn't I be, Phariseeing it up to believe the Holy Bible text over the female arch angel doing severe miracles to prove what she is? They stuck to their scriptures over seeing Jesus miracles.


This female arch angel has done similar miracles to what Jesus did in the Bible and said God lets them all into Heaven if they change their behavior.

She's also caused me to run at like 30-50 MPH.

God who burns all non christians is evil.

The Angel resssurecting shit and healing broken bones said Gods the opposite of the Bible. To me at least.

I refuse to believe Demons are ressurecting shit and I have to believe the Bible still.

>>40908566
>It is the utter annihilation of the soul.
If only.
Revelation 21:8 “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

>>40914669
>Christcucks
Either midwit with fedora or legit shill

>>40914698
>lovingkindness
This is blatant lie, he literally allows demons and satanists to cause untold amount of evil.

>>40916434
He literally commited suicide

>>40908566
>It is the utter annihilation of the soul.
Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth
I am not really sure where did you took that idea.

>>40916474
I'm a Muslim, and you're wrong.

>>40920846
Sharon's still alive, and therefore as a braindead fanboy who owns 3 t-shirts, a single live album from a show I'd never been to, and 4 itunes songs, I can officiate that Ozzy did NOT commit suicide.

The most Christian position is to be a hopeful universalist.

>>40908368 (OP)
This faggot is in hell for murdering 17 cats. Gpad hes dead. Sharons next.

>>40921790
His commie ass is in there for sure

>>40909320
this is true, listen to the lyrics of a few choice Black Sabbath songs and you'll know for sure Ozzy was not into satanism

>>40914755
They want the monopoly because they're evil, bro.

>>40909083
I think Jesus pretty explicitly said that those who don't go to the Kingdom of God will go to a "blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

>>40923048
ill kill them before they even get the chance to touch the bigger picture, they won't take my superheroes away, over my cold dead body

>>40924075
>if you don't do exactly as i say i'll send you to the cha- i mean hell
sounds jewish as fuck

After reading all the replies I want to say what I think about this subject. Some people are saying that Ozzy was a true christian or whatever and to me that is really hard to believe because I have read the bible more than one time and it clearly states in there, somewhere in those pages, that people who do hardcore drugs, who fuck groupies and drink alcohol, and are stoned out of their minds 24/7 are not going to enter the so called Kingdom of Salvation. Ozzy was a rockstar. He is a living embodiment of what the "superstar" archetype is supposed to be. Like, all the visual signs point towards the fact that he did worship the dark side or Satan. People may argue that it was just done to make people talk about him, to generate buzz, controversy, but that is what the bible tell us. Like, ""Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!"" or even "Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble."

Ozzy did exactly that. How come "woe" not be upon him? Just because they warned about evil in one or two tunes, does that redeem them from all the rest?

Another thing I would like to say is that christian are so lame because they don't question the dogmas. They believe whatever it is written in the bible even when it contradicts itself. There's a reason that the bible commands people to no lean in their own understanding. It's because if they do they will realize how fucked up God is. How God comands people to kill other people, how God brings evil down people, How God limits the human spirit and brags about being more powerful and wise than all of us. And then they want us to believe that God sacrificed Jesus because He loves us very mych. BS.

>>40908566
>Annihilation of the soul
Impossible. Soul is really. Reality Is existence. Non existence is impossible.