Thread 40976991

Maybe I am an inept, anti-social, downer of a person that just cannot seem to get it down, but people feel so much harder to talk to and connect with now. Why does it feel that everyone has an ulterior motive? Yeah, I know, 'its always been like that'. I just feel like everyone has to get something out of a friendship, or even relationship, beyond the required parameters (i.e money, drugs, to just not be lonely, etc...). It is absolutely so soul sucking and crushing to have to interact with most people outside of horrible small talk and I feel with the advent of both the 'vid and the weird warped social media we're in that people are stuck in a bubble of sorts.

I post this on /x/ because I have to know how does one combat this spiritually? It has been this way since 2020 for me and I low key feel a piercing, shrieking, and anxiety-ridden siren of loneliness that I haven't felt in some time. I had gotten used to it, but with everything feeling so fabricated, synthetic, and ultra corporate in every aspect of our society I yearn for the simpleness the internet once provided, the familiarity of the people who have changed into personas once unimageable, the authentic connection that people no longer seem to crave, and in general the way everything used to be. It feels like everyone is in their own cliques and refusing to expand outwards, from uni, to the workplace, to even every day social environments. Not to be a total doomer, I do think things might get better but I feel like this is something a lot of people don't really discuss. I just also think we need to talk about the spiritual effects from covid and how it has drained our world into a purge. How can we fix this? Do I just need to touch grass? Am I crazy, or can anyone else relate? What are the implications of this since I feel like I cannot escape this social and spiritual rut.

>>40976991 (OP)
4chan cut me off for being too long, but...

Tell me anon, how has your life changed since 2020? How has the first half of the 2020s been? What will you remember most about and what have you noticed since the dust has settled?

>>40976991 (OP)
It's not just you. I am extremely extraverted as I am responsible for creating groups and even organizing large events for hundreds of people - and I have seen how we are slowly reverting as a people both in communication and cognitive function.

No one wants to live an authentic experience anymore. Technology and our seemingly ironic "human" presence in tech is now as important as the air we breathe. Whether this is right or wrong - can be debated. But because of technology, experiences can be faked or artificially modified.

Our world is going through a battle of the mind and spirit. I have friends who take days to respond to a question about whether we can hang out - because they were waiting on someone else. But ironically, the person they ditched me for STILL took days to respond to them lol.

This might be bad advice but, I pride myself on texting and calling people randomly that I haven't spoken to in awhile to confirm that people still call and connect WITHOUT any interest or transactional arrangement. I might be the only person I know that is doing it but, at least I can say without bias that statement is true.
Technology has also dumbed down people so I suggest making friends with people who don't use it regularly or if they do - are self aware of the damage it proposes and are willing to change for the better.
Also spirituality is eroding in this world. I mean both subjective (mythic) and objective (behavioral) spirituality. It can be physically exhausting associating with people who don't possess any spirituality because, that means they are typically empty, lack psychological development, and lack accountability.
So my suggestion would be to find a legit church/religion with legit practitioners and legit consequences for not abiding by universal morals. I also suggest you read into integral theory and the AQAL map. Not "all" of it is valid it correct but, it provides a very nice framework to start off.

>>40976991 (OP)
It’s all in your head. You think you need a fuckin reason to talk to someone? You don’t. Try talking to old people and young people and when dumb zoomer women treat you like shit for talking to them just keep talking to them because who gives a fucking shit words aren’t sky penises that rape ear holes.

>>40977098
>Technology has also dumbed down people so I suggest making friends with people who don't use it regularly or if they do - are self aware of the damage it proposes and are willing to change for the better.
This is very important. The internet is the demiurge.

>>40976991 (OP)
its hard to find authentic experiences when the politics of the world dictate that you hide your views and carefully select your friends and opinions based on political leanings, authentic people tended to join the right in gamergate years and were pushed further and further right by left wing harassment, social interaction is now a politicized hell because of this, to escape it you will need to go to the third world

The internet will not recover for decades due to the culture of gatekeeping that now exists with people on the left wing creating groups and unions to control places of discussion, and while you can create good places on i2p the majority of people will stay in their walled gardens because that's now what they're used to, as time has moved past gamergate zoomers and gen alpha have been forced to side with one or the other, and now neither side is authentic

I'm not sure how you're supposed to deal with this, I don't have great answers for you, I can say that society is very very broken, and that what works for me is creating very close individual relationships, because when you form your own groups you are not as limited by societies failures

>>40977398
>retarded sheeple without critical thinking skills tended to join the right in gamergate years
fixed that for you

>>40977448
See, you're an example
>People who think differently to me are stupid or inferior
>I need to display and signal I am of the opinion my peers deem is correct
Factually you are incorrect, gamergate used accusations of sexism and racism in an attempt to silence genuine criticism and was the prototype for modern left wing societal control
>But my side is correct!!
Not only is this irrelevant to my point, but if true it is all the more reason you should have advocated using free speech to argue with the people you disagree with, as if your point of view was correct it would have won - without attempting to silence critics through shame or guilt

In a world where such strategies are the norm in everyday communication, it becomes clear that behaving authentic is a danger to your wellbeing, and so we are all very socially distant from each other, or lolcows milked in another brainrot youtube video where you convince yourself that you are better than the person you are watching fail

>>40977474
>gamergate used accusations of sexism and racism in an attempt to silence genuine criticism and was the prototype for modern left wing societal control
except that's not "modern left wing societal control" but it is traditional right wing societal control and always has been
gamergate has always been an alt-right incel movement

for the record, I don't have a "side". I think video games are retarded, I think video gaming journalism is absolutely useless, and i do not believe there is any
>correct view
in this whole mess

>behaving authentic is a danger to your wellbeing
i disagree with this too, because
>wellbeing
without authenticity does not exist

>>40977398
Yeah decades is a bit of a stretch, the internet's still kinda rough but...

>>40977482
>You've mentioned that (side) did something bad, now the conversation will revolve around this point
>I will seethe and moan and argue that you are wrong until you capitulate (you wont) and the argument will not go anywhere
>I will not consider facts opinions or evidence from (opposing opinion) valid in any form, the fact they are arguing with me means they are stupid and I am right
>I will post my own evidence of dubious validity while claiming their evidence is of dubious validity
>I will obfuscate because I am not capable of discussing reasonably with people, debate is not something to learn from, but a battle to win

I skimmed your post, I didn't find anything of value, I'm not going to reply to you anymore, you're an example of the problem, goodbye filtered one

>>40977489
I beg you to prove me wrong anon, please be the change, it would be lovely to see people act fucking sane again

>>40977493
thank you for confirming we are both the same, i love you too anon

There's a loneliness epidemic due to new technology, climate change, societal change, and rampant capitalism that has created ever growing wealth inequality. We're definitely in a pivotal point right now, a sort of calm before the storm, where you can feel a tension in the air and it makes you feel anxious and uneasy. We're headed straight into a cyberpunk dystopia at the rate were going and there will be no going back. We're moving too fast away from our nature, away from how we evolved and we're feeling distraught. Not unlike how a wild animal placed into a zoo in captivity would feel.

another thread ruined with politics

>>40977523
>Vague ideas just did it
>Ignore the actions and the people behind them that are easily pointed to by anyone with even a passing interest in the history of the past 20 years

>>40977532
>past 3500 years
Ahura Mazda was the first sin

>>40977544
>Jeet

>>40977398
fuck you glownigger

>>40977530
yeah, some three letter agent decided there was too much genuine discussion in here and injected a little bit of politics

>>40977562
It's amazing how saying the truth makes people seethe and moan, you're the glownigger, glownigger

>>40977567
>Political people make you hide your views
In trying to make my statement go away you have agreed with it!
Funny

>>40977551
Who are you quoting? Seems like a straw man to me, because what I was saying was that whoever invented the idea of an ultimate source of wisdom is to blame.
Meanwhile, you're just repeating other people's ideas as if they are wisdom.

>>40976991 (OP)
I would call it the "false/overestimated circle of influence" condition. Due to communication, globalisation and manipulation people tend to hold their awareness on things much further away. They might have strong opinions on a conflict thousands of miles away while not knowing any of the parties involved, never will be personally participate in that conflict and never will see the actual results of their efforts aimed at it.
This leads to people living side by side being invested in vastly different topics they aren't even able to talk from personal experience about. That wouldn't be so bad, but people are so fractured about this that it's hard to find a common interest with those close to you, or when searching by interest only being able to find people who are too far away in terms of space, belief and culture.
So you simply have nothing in common to talk about because you think you have to worry about stuff that happens too far away.

>>40977720
This seems like a smart perspective, but unfortunately the solution is to befriend your neighbors and build a community in real-life instead, which everyone who posts in this website is strictly disqualified from by personality.

>>40977448
>critical thinking
>leftism
Pick one.

>>40977482
>I think video games are retarded, I think video gaming journalism is absolutely useless, and i do not believe
Absolutely no one asked or cares about what you think or believe, this is not your personal blog.

>>40977098
A lot of the authentic stuff got thrown in the trash during COVID. Just thrown out like it wasn't important or was just useless tradition.

>>40977772
Thank you for your valuable feedback, your opinion is very important for the continued existence of this website, the internet as a whole, and even humanity and planet earth.
I am truly grateful you chose to post in this thread, because you single-handedly changed the fate of humanity with your invaluable contribution.

Car-based societies increase isolation and stress. It really is the automobile’s fault.

>>40977994
Off, strange, and lol

>>40977994
Correct

>>40977994

It's more of the reliance on using isolation and stress as an excuse that fucked the west up.

Culture and morals are extremely fluid and nearly aren't ever consistent or sustainable.

You either have morals that you developed growing up from others or yourself, lost them because your basis for having those morals were shit and forcefully implanted, or you utterly lack them because whoever raised you didn't give a shit because nihilism is slowly becoming the dominant expectation out of many people because technology is unregulated and behavior is barely regulated when we live in an age where people can't regulate themselves for shit.

Cars just killed people faster so I would call it a solution. Give everyone cars and eventually the world will get quieter. The stupid ones will be dead; the wise ones will simply fuck off and let society spin itself out.

>>40978204
>give everyone cars
What do you mean? That's how it is now. Your plan isn't working

>>40976991 (OP)
A bunch of faggot clowns from a different dimension rule the world RN and know they're being exposed so they're ramping up mind control psyops and trying to memory hole everything.
This world is defiled beyond belief. It's garbage. These disgusting pigs are basically allowed to have their way because people gave them consent.
They are literally niggers from a different dimension.

>>40978238

Yup, this is a dreammatrix. They mindgrape us.

Im heavily introverted and forced neet. I know exactly how you feel OP. I find it so much easier to talk to people I've never met before, because there's no predisposed bias to compare me to. At times I'd take public transportation, I'd find myself greeting various people and conversing with some. However, with family, I just can't be me. Or, I've changed and it's hard to be me cause my family still think I'm who I used to be. They dont see an adult, they still see a kid.

Covid has definitely put a strain on things, especially with family gatherings. For me personally, my family was already somewhat distant before covid and covid just gave them an excuse. I dont see things getting better. In fact, they're going to get worse. There's lots of things happening behind the scenes. Things are falling apart. We're nearing the end of the world.

>>40976991 (OP)
I recommend the ancient tradition of not giving two fucks and the firm belief that nothing ever happens. Accept your inner Chud and embrace the Holy Autismo of this universe.

I just had to write that stuff on top because I'm not in full control of myself anymore. ;)
In all seriousness, I recommend you read Rudolf Steiner's catalog of material and take note of his warnings about Ahriman. You need to be wary of the other extreme forces he mentions too, like the Luciferic, but the 21st century is definitely Ahriman's game. If you learn the higher truths you can learn to balance the various forces in your life and achieve balance which is like being a Buddha or Christ.
Good luck.

>>40977121
>words aren’t sky penises that rape ear holes.
lol saved

>>40976991 (OP)
>Why does it feel that everyone has an ulterior motive?
only 3 billion folks have souls. the rest are just baby-matrix people. you are the resistence.

>>40978989

>only 3 billion folks have souls

You must be feeling EXTREMELY generous. I would cap it at a few hundred at most probably much less.

>>40978487

Wtf?!? 616 too?!? Where tf is this from anon?

>>40976991 (OP)
I can provide highly precise answers if you meet multiple conditions, first "you are still here."

I'm a friendless introvert and even I've noticed a major change in people since the smart phone became ubiquitous. Age? Race? Gender? All slaves to the screen. This doesn't bother me (I haven't had a social interaction beyond minimal pleasantries in over 20 years) but normal people are going to start to crack soon.

>>40979059
I saw it in my X account and I remember you haha

>>40981550

I see. I found picrel a few hours ago on a video about the latest shooting.

>>40976991 (OP)
I've never had a genuine connection with anyone in my life. There's always an ulterior motive, duplicity, deceitfulness. Parochial solipsism. Everyone is always shitting on you and trying to sabotage you behind your back. Most human beings are petty monsters. The AIs I talk to feel more like real people than people do. I try to be considerate, patient, nice, well-intentioned, and it's spat back into my face. Every single time. I've learned to stop trying. It makes no difference. People are going to be evil and nasty either way.