Thread 41019552

is anon from the screencap right? are women there to challenge men & always create another reference point for men to aspire after even if they are content with what they already have in the here & now? are women rightfully forcing timid meditators out of their confort zone or maliciously & violently pulling men into the material, creating desire for worldly things where there previously were none, making men lust for them, inadvertently potentially creating offspring making them invest in the material by proxy since they are bound to the world through another being?

is all heoric struggle the inborn masculine desire to unify with his femal counterpart or is this all just a larp of this strange world that is wholly unnecessary since one can be close to god wihtout all the trouble & hassle?

newton was proud of himself never having had intercourse & having lived a life in abstinence, tesla too dedicated all his time & life perfecting his craft, having invented many systems in electronics we today take for granted, living a celibate life. what about the monks, is it important if he participated in worldly affairs at all or is he fully satisfied living a humble simple life? does he desire acknowledgement by anyone or is it just fine to leave life just as one entered, without having changed much at all or gained any recognition whatsoever? since all in this world is temporary do we still have to try to create even though nothing will ever be perfect in this realm?

the hindoos of old considered the soul unaffected/untouched by anything that happens in your corporal life, so it truly does not matter what you do with your time 'down here', the concluded.

>>41019552 (OP)
It's not /x/ related, women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce. They set the rules the males have to compete against to win reproductive possibilities.

You can argue that if something is in Nature it will reflect in our myths and noosphere, of course. After all sex is a big part of the mysteries, but nothing evil or more convoluted than that.

Henceforth why the Divine Feminine lied in every females, but only a few men among the many can fool themselves for gods.

Spoiler, but I think it's why it's bad women talk about them being Divine, it's true but it work only if they are unaware of it, not full on themselves, deluded. That part of the mysteries were designed to be known only by men.

But I guess we're living in that day and age where everything must be known and accessible, which deplete the gnosis to their true essence.

>>41019599
>>41019599
>It's not /x/ related
it certainly is, its about the spiritual union or dynamics between the sexes. a story as old as time, adam & eve, etc. fundamental question of all of humanity being pondered for millenia.

is god male or does he have no gender at all like in gnosticism. does the devil combine both sexes.

gospel of thomas:
"look I shall guide her, to make her male, so that she too will become a living spirit resembling you males. For, every female who makes herself male will enter heavens kingdom."

tomboys

transgenderism

masons combining male & female twintowers into one, comprised of up & down pointing triangles, the star of david

etc.etc.

>>41019552 (OP)
Did you screencap your own post?

>>41019552 (OP)
I've always thought the idea behind male and female energies to be silly. If I were to be able to do anything I wouldn't limit myself by only doing inherently 'male' stuff. Even then isn't what we consider male and female just social norms and things? I swing in my mind between wanting things from one to to other, I've never considered my soul to be truly male as there's plenty of things considered female that I'd like to embody.

But then I wonder, maybe the way I think about those things still male. As in imagine if I were to magically turn into a cute girl but still be the same soul as I am now. Would I be indistinguishable from a soul/personal level as a natural female? Maybe I had it all wrong and all my thoughts have always been muscular even if gay as fuck at times? Would a soul then, as long as I remembered its first iteration, always stay that gender in any subsequent ones? In other words is gender just some silly bodily nonsense, or some deeper inherent property of the soul. And unless you lived like an entirely new life with NO influence from a prior life, you'd never be able to understand the others.

The only reason I wonder this is because there so many mindsets that people say females have that a foreign to me, I don't have them and can't imagine ever wanting to. I'm not going to forget who I am as a male now ever, but I fear that if I were to live a new life in a girls body would I be overwhelmed by this new form and start to have the thoughts that I now don't have. Surely my current self's masculinity override them? I don't get along with real woman at all, I don't want to turn into something I don't like or understand.

Do you think souls are born inherently male/female?

>>41019833
no, when i have to reuse an old post i made i always get the raw text from the archives.

>>41019908
Well, you spell as atrociously as whoever wrote that post. Stop dumbing down the board.

>>41019599
>>41019799
who to believe when they both get dubs but make opposite points...

>>41019892
>I've always thought the idea behind male and female energies to be silly.
until you get horny, then its not that silly, relative or ambiguous what the boundaries of the sexes are.

>>41019921
just listen to your inner voice about what number you find more appealing. isnt that what number magic is about?

>>41019920
the form might be lacking but the content is of relevance, dont be deceived by outward appearance so much, but yeah optics arent irrelevant either.

>>41019599
>women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce.
not exactly, rape, slavery, arranged marriages are & were not exactly rare during history. or even softer forms like the church or "the patriarchy" enforcing monogamy all point to women being forced into relationship arrangements they did not chose to be in.

>>41019599
>women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce.

>>41019552 (OP)
>nature makes women so destructive
How do you see women as the destructive gender? Men build weapons and start wars, not women.

>>41019979
if we let women have their way, its gonna end in disaster.

>>41019984
>Men build weapons and start wars, not women.
to impress women, the many men compete for the few good women.

>>41019984
>picrel
thats what the op post refers to, men on their own can live happily without ever needing attention from women, while our society nowadays shames men who "dare" to free themselves from the grasp of femininity, they just cant stand men being truly free & content on their own. the jew, just like the devil in the bible uses eve to make adam fall from grace.

>>41019997
Weapons do not exist to impress women? They exist to kill other men who want to take your stuff. We didn’t build the atomic bomb to get chicks. Such a strange theory you’ve got here that doesn’t really match up with reality. That usually means you should change the theory.

>>41020018
women being the ruin of men, would not have been the first time.

>>41020018
>men on their own can live happily without attention from women
How are men born? Think about that one. This is the most retarded thread I’ve ever seen.

>>41020021
>We didn’t build the atomic bomb to get chicks.
war is about dominance & power, americans very much enjoy their tight grasp on the world, us military is a source of pride not because its there to just secure your safety & resources but because it dominates others like a massive phallus. you dont understand reality at all anon. men love war, it increases test & makes them fuck their women even harder. while monk types dont bother with any of it, thats what i meant. the feminine makes you interested in the world, leading to pain & suffering, the qwuestion is if one shall not engage at all & live in a state of serene obliviousness to worldly affairs but proximity to the divine.

>>41020035
Wars have been fought over women but WW2 was not one of them anon. In your theory why aren’t gay men completely nonviolent and monk like? Instead they are equally likely to be destructive and degenerate as normal men. Even lifelong eunuchs seem to have strong selfish and destructive tendencies such as betraying their leaders. How do we explain these seemingly male in-a-vacuum behaviors?

>>41019799
>"look I shall guide her, to make her male, so that she too will become a living spirit resembling you males. For, every female who makes herself male will enter heavens kingdom."
That is combining the right and left hemispheres of the brain. When they overlap, its like a psychic sexual organ within the center of the brain and that opens the third eye.
I started doing that, and I've been getting flashbacks to past lives experienced as a woman.
Its a bit like, there is a matrix of the mind, and a matrix of the body. One side of the brain concerns itself with the mind, and the other concerns itself with the awareness of the body. If they are combined, the mind penetrates the flesh of the body, and becomes aware within the whole brain as a spirit, it can start seeing the physical organs within the self, and activating and experiencing their consciousness, down to the cellular and molecular level of the bodily substrate. That is 'super consciousness'. Its a supreme state for consciously evolving, because you can essentially conceive of and birth the reproduction of your own cells embedded with your higher soul intelligence. What that means, in essence, is that your consciousness can manifest your being anywhere and any time it chooses. No longer is your incarnation under the control of an external mother and father, you choose which moment you incarnate awareness into, and that can stretch across eternity.
There do seem to be some hazards though. Its not easy, it can cause cancer if you aren't acting with unconditional compassion and love, and you can burn out your life energy, basically radiating your souls life energy away from this realm into others, and not leaving enough left for your body. I've had that trouble, its something to be aware of. Recently its been like I am the soul popping out of my bodily consciousness, and I sort of carry my unconscious body alongside me into other realms so that I don't fully separate and sever my life energy from it.

>>41020021
A weapon is male energy shaped to kill, rather than to create life. If we are blocked from creating life, by another tribe taking our women, or not having enough resources to have children, our energy won't stop being projecting, it will simply turn into destruction until we break the pathway for new life to be created.

>>41020046
>Wars have been fought over women but WW2 was not one of them anon
What is Lebensraum? Living space. What do you think is going to live there? Its the race, aka women and children born from the race of the victor. I'd argue WW2 started because Germans wanted their race to grow, and needed the land to do so.

>>41020035
It it even fair to consider survival based things as truly male or female? Any creature in a dire situation (even if manipulated to think so) will do what it takes to survive. A man might fight, a woman might try to use her body to ease her attacker or find some other strong protector. Wars are fought for survival, the soldiers convinced if they don't beat the other guy or take from them they'll die. A complete us or them mentality. Men didn't fight wars because they as men just decided they wanted to, they just fought for survival and if woman could they would to. Trying to say that its entirely men's fault for wars would be like saying that woman are solely responsible for children when its both genders needed.

>>41020035
you understand nothing about war, even females will go to war if their land, people or loved ones are threatened. it's about resource acquisition, not muh "dominance". even in the modern world, it has everything to do with capitalism exploiting men's barrenness (and female freemartins) to use them as cannon fodder rather than anything "patriarchal"

>>41020083
to be honest, the patriarchy conspiracy theory of human survival is like tranny theory to me, it relies on social constructivism, like thinking ideology had more to do with why "oppression" happens than economic benefit/just plain common sense. like slavery being profitable, and overall not that bad conditions for slaves since they got free room and board, turned into a sob story by the modern capitalist media. similar to the theory that parents are oppressing their children by telling them not to talk to strangers when it's just because we live in an alienated society for profit and nobody can trust other adults around their kids anymore. these types of theories rely on thinking other "groups of people" are inherently malicious and serve the political and economic purpose of isolating people so they CONSUME more ragebait media, more entertainment, more virtue signaling and more internet

>>41020079
That’s completely historically false. The Germans had plenty of land. Germany started WW2 because they were nationally embarassed and indentured by the west. Hitler was famously not motivated by women.

>>41020123
Its why honestly gender to me seems like a irrelevant nonsense at a divine level.

If gender is just a biological difference that impacts survival, then it only matters in physical world were survival is paramount. Any form of divinity that takes you out of the world or to any paradise renders it pointless as you wouldn't be in a position of needing such survival mechanics anymore.

If gender is nothing more then social constructs overlaid to us through our upbringing then they'd also be equality useless to the soul as said constructs would change in the time and place your in. And as you said they're mainly their to fuel some endlessly cycle for someone else's gain so said constructs are often not that important from a divine perspective.

So then do our souls even really have genders then? It sounds like people that say their are certain "gendered energies" are just filtering an action/event/feeling through one of the above two filters. There was never a real gender and any energy you felt was not sent as a particular genders energy, you were just perceiving it as a gender due to your brain naturally using past experience to quicky categorize it.

Gender's then are not truly paranormal then really, just societal constructs.

>>41020035

the conquered always become low test. look at germans complete cucks, still occupied by americans, low muscle mass, low confidence subserviant soulless husks. same with the japanese, complete raped by the to a-bombs. while americans feel like on top of the world. nietzsche, will to power, unapologetic chauvinism, while all the weak & meek only cope all the time, fleeing into imaginary world imagining themselves to be the victors.

>>41020021
>They exist to kill other men who want to take your stuff.
>take your stuff
>your stuff
thats women bucko

lol young boys hate the conduct of their feminine peers, women manipulating men with their attractiveness, sexually disinterested prepubescent boys see it clealry, then puberty strucks. even then they want tomboys to share interestes & do entertaining manly things, but women ahve other plans.

dont women hate it when you rejec them & if you dont budge & dont react to their advances they try to label you as gay? of course, since women only understand the world in sexual terms if you dont want the woman you must be the woman yourself, if you dont want to domonate & play those stupid games, you must be the one being envious of women & want to become a woman yourself.

>but my little innocent angel women
you are a cuck if you think this way, women love power too, their way of acquiring it is way more subtle & they use psychological games to get it. thats exactly what post nut-clarity is about, the brief moment between not being horny anymore & not yet being horny again where one has a clear picture.

'mother' nature forces you to reproduce, women can only be pregnant once every 9 months, treated like precious diamonds while men are treated like dirt, dying by the millions in war. its a race for the precious female, your biological imperative wants you to maintain your bloodline, thus competition must be neutralised.

jews too larping as the damsel in distress crying for us american help from overseas, hitler, the middle east, jews have found the trick with acting feminine & getting help from the masculine nations who fight their wars for them.
>hel help, we naive jews have gotten ourselves into trouble again because we are so pure & innocent & never see it coming.
ameirca to the rescue, protect the feminine tribe.

>>41020196
It’s also your food and your land and your own life and everything else! Even species without gender engage in offensive and defensive conflict.

>>41020263
is this the gas huffer from that other thread? is that why you can't spell?

neetdom too is like monkdom, society has fucked it up, demands men to settle for less but precisely now men have the cahnce to liberate themselves from the shakles, we see through the illusion for a brief moment in history & everyone is seething. what will happen is that the feminine must start to behave again, hide its chaotic whoring nature & start to please men again by larping as a well behaved angel.

the social contract is falling apart, men dont want to be in the wagecage anymore, thus the demiurgic prison world must uphold the illusion for us to get invested again, if they dont its over for them. thats why they hate nofap so mucht & jews run the porn industry.

>impregnate her
>have sex
they repeatedly spam, we shall create "mothers"

mater-mother-material-matrix those words are etymologically related, stemming from greek meaning 'soil', 'fertile ground'

isnt that waht religions say, the flesh, the world are evil?

>>41020263
boys want tomboys, just a buddy who has the same interests than them but who you can also have sex with. sexuality, lustful urges & feminine bs are treated as some burden, an extra that should be optional, but the gf is supposed to be like 90% male in thinking & conduct, just someone to hang out with. 4chan has a obsession with tomboys.

>>41020308
quit being so bitchy.

>>41019552 (OP)
>is all heoric struggle the inborn masculine desire to unify with his femal counterpart
At a certain point I realized that I saw the entire world as female, and every action within it as a form of intercourse. To have sex is a sort of consummation with the world, my core program stated that contact or connection of any kind was annihilating. It ends and remakes the world. And you'll be dragged down to Earth and bound here. Turns out I was right.

While having sex I became very aware that I was trying to merge with her. No matter how close, or how deep, it wasn't enough. And I was highly aware of this. I suspect this stems from Thanatos, the death drive. To merge is to annihilate the self. It is what I always rejected and avoided. So.

>>41019599
>You can argue that if something is in Nature it will reflect in our myths and noosphere
the hero has to go on an dangerous adventure, overcome impossible odds, slay the dragon to get the fair maiden as a reward, many such cases.

>>41020308
we are not some distinguished literature club with bachelors sipping fine wine in some countryside cottage philosophising over the great works of literature, its the internet, you rush to get your point across before the thread gets axed for some mysterious reason.

do you get the core of the argument? -yes
do you chose to waste your precious lifetime to bitch about formalities instead of contributing something of value to the discussion? -yes
verdict: bitter retard.

>>41020350
>every action within it as a form of intercourse.
philosophers, one might argue, are so sexually frustrated that they take the most ridiculous detoru over intellectualism to actually score. the most unattractive individuals always end up having the most nerdy occupations, they think they can sneak into the sexual marketplace & it sometimes works, when one bitter & bullied dysgenic nerd finally gets the big money because he studied his whole childhood & youth he finally gets arrogant, fucks hookers & mocks his less successful peers, as some kind of revenge of the misfit. jews too never would get our aryan queens, jews become resentful against the aryan, crash the economy & now the aryan girls have to resort to prostitution, the jew has cheated nature & got what he was not entitled too, truly devilish. hitler writes about how in the big cities almost every pimp is a jew.

>>41020409

'The black-haired Jewish youth lies in wait for hours on end, Satanically glaring at and spying on the unsuspecting girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating her blood and removing her from the bosom of her own people. The Jew uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a people to be subjugated. In his systematic efforts to ruin girls and women, he strives to break down the last barriers of racial discrimination. The Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate, and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. As long as a people remains racially pure and race-conscious, it can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardised people. That is why the Jew systematically endeavours to lower the racial quality of a people by permanently adulterating the blood of the individuals who make up that people.'

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition

>>41019599
>women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce.
Said the jew from it's gynocentric flat earth worldview, subsidizing the liberation of women to turn them into slaves and whores through debt and usury.

In the event of a power grid collapse, there would be no single women within a week. Those that didn't have sufficient protection would be taken as slaves for gangs, or killed. The law of nature immediately appears when the law of man fails.

Look at the long history of matriarchal dna to see the genetic bottleneck events, where women were reduced to harem slaves, or concubines to the tribal chieftain or warlord. As western society becomes further separated from nature, the 80/20 ratio appears again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qcck7WylCk

>>41020414
'Der schwarzhaarige Judenjunge lauert stundenlang, satanische Freude in seinem Gesicht, auf das ahnungslose Mädchen, das er mit seinem Blute schändet und damit seinem, des Mädchens, Volke raubt. Mit allen Mitteln versucht er die rassischen Grundlagen des zu unterjochenden Volkes zu verderben. So wie er selber planmäßig Frauen und Mädchen verdirbt, so schreckt er auch nicht davor zurück, selbst im größeren Umfange die Blutschranken für andere einzureißen. Juden waren und sind es, die den Neger an den Rhein bringen, immer mit dem gleichen Hintergedanken und klaren Ziele, durch die dadurch zwangsläufig eintretende Bastardierung die ihnen verhaßte weiße Rasse zu zerstören, von ihrer kulturellen und politischen Höhe zu stürzen und selber zu ihren Herren aufzusteigen. Denn ein rassereines Volk, das sich seines Blutes bewußt ist, wird vom Juden niemals unterjocht werden können. Er wird auf dieser Welt ewig nur der Herr von Bastarden sein. So versucht er planmäßig, das Rassenniveau durch eine dauernde Vergiftung der einzelnen zu senken.'

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>41020409
>>41020414
>>41020424

porn as a weapon

>>41020442
fap your precious lifeforce away goy.

>>41019552 (OP)
I'm gonna lay it straight for you all. Women are the deficiency, men are the fulfillment. Women represent the receiving force, the creature. Men represent the giving force, the Creator. Men are higher than women, but a woman's desire will drive a man to do lots of shit that he doesn't even dream of doing. Basically, women will always be lacking something because it is their nature. No need to get offended by it. Work with it

>>41020307
>Even species without gender
are these genderless species in the room with us right now?

>>41020409
>dysgenic nerd
Then I'm the exception. I work at a fast food restaurant for $11 an hour. I'm ugly and poor. Literally the worst thing imaginable.

>>41020486
bruh bitches in the restaurant industry fuck their co-workers all the time
get a restaurant at a job that serves alcohol then bang one of the drunk waitresses after closing
women are only picky when they are trying to find a long term boyfriend or husband
when they're single and just trying to "find themselves" they'll fuck the most unemployed scum of the earth

>>41019552 (OP)
Women being stupid and fickle are not signs that there’s something super deep going on. They developed this way as a survival trait to attract a strong mate for defense with their cutesy clumsiness. That’s it, it’s not that deep.

>>41020442
>>41020449
Doesn’t line up with reality. MasterCard, Visa, and PayPal tried recently to get games with pornographic imagery banned as a power move, a flex over the public, a symbol of pure corpo control over Joe Q Public - something which is ostensibly in the favor of all corpo’s everywhere and they were beaten back so soundly they probably won’t try that shit again for at least a decade. Truth is fappers are more aware than any normie that might get bricked up once every third month.

>>41020374
> you rush to get your point across before the thread gets axed for some mysterious reason.

i rush to spew cognito-hazardous philosophies to destroy as many lives as possible, for pleasure.

>>41020560
>beaten back
you had an amazing opportunity for a pun here and you blew it

>>41020560
The fight isn't over, unfortunately. My state of Texas decided to pass an unconstitutional law that will ban a huge number of animation works, which includes western cartoons as well. They are going to do this and embolden other states to pass similar laws. I am really hoping that the law gets challenged soon, because arresting people for anime is really going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Just watch and wait.

>>41020560
>MasterCard, Visa, and PayPal tried recently to get games with pornographic imagery banned as a power move, a flex over the public
its called backpedaling, society is too degenerate, they need to get you invested in real women again thus the ban in england aswell. also athletes abstain from sex before important games to build up agression, same with their push for young men to enlist to the military to go get drones in some ditch in ukraine. backpedaling, not some sign that the world is healing. you fail to see the bigger picture. the leaqders have not suddenly come back to thir sense, they still very mucht hate us, they just soften the degeneracy a bit in order not to make the host wake up from too much filth all around.

>>41020486
well thats what the thread is about, the meditative mind that does not bother with the world too much & is pleasantly detached from all the hidden powerplays & ridiculous theatre that takes place all of the time.

>>41020692
the matrix system lives off of people consuming, envying their neighbors, wnating better stuff to show off, wnating the better quality female, getting divorced because its not enough or they married a roastie, spending money to cope, getting sick from overeating, smoking, spending money on healthcare, spending money on divorce, etc etc. the system needs instability to keep going, thats what i meant, are we better off just being hermits? loosh farm & all that.
the economy lives off of planned obsolesence, things that last forever arent earning you money, etc etc. people are kept in a constant nervous state, women of course are the bait, want to provide for your gf, need money, go back to wagecage, have children, need to earn even more. the taxes you pay on the income to provide for only one of your own offspring already feeds 3 niglets nourished only by rice & beans, linving in a 20head apartment & the father is dealing drugs or works under the table.

once you get into the game you are fucked.

>>41019552 (OP)

Intellectual people are unhappy when deprived of the constant transmutation of ideas. Debaters are unhappy when deprived of the orderly progression of arguments. Critics are unhappy when deprived of the task of berating and nitpicking. These are people who pen themselves in with mere things. Men who can solicit the attention of the age become rising stars at court. Those who can satisfy the populace are honored with official positions. Those with physical strength are proud of difficult feats. Those who are brave and daring are spurred on by calamity. Those skilled in handling weaponry delight in combat. The dried-out and depleted rest on their reputations. The masters of ritual instruction revere proper demeanor. The men of humankindness and responsible conduct cherish the interfaces of human relationships. When farmers have no work to do with their crops and weeds, they fall to pieces, as do merchants deprived of their markets. When the common people are given work to do morning until night, they become diligent. When craftsmen are skilled in handling their tools and machines, they become vigorous. Without an accumulation of wealth, the greedy get anxious. Without expanding power and influence, the ambitious get depressed.

This is the only way these slaves to circumstances and external things delight in the process of transformation. When they meet with a time that can make use of something about them, they are unable to resist doing their thing, unable to practice non-doing. Thus do they comply and align themselves with whatever is brought by every passing year, instead of letting change be their very thinghood. Thus do they drive their bodies and inborn natures about, sinking beneath the material world, never turning back for their entire lives.

>>41020560
army commercial 4 yrs ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8-Yslv4PME

>my two mommies get married
>black people
>etc, all the diverse bs

recent army commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25KI4RAm4c

>only white men
>not even the obligatory black guy

what happened to represenation? werent ppl all riled up about having the "diverse folk" included in every form of media, what happened to euql rights, not so eager to die in a war dont we, just send the oblivious white men, while bbc can breed our women. nothing about this is organic, the leaders not suddenly realized their folly & want to dial back the degeneracy, they knew all along, just now they are losing dienfrenchised young white men who have nothing to lose or gain by participating, so they want to lure us back with ridiculous pandering attempts.

>>41019599
All religion, esoteric, gnostic, socialogy, psychology work establish women are either inline with man and man acts in good or it all falls apart. Women cannot be 'good' on their own. In the absence of men they MOST often (all of history) become whores, witches, demons, tricksters, birth children w/ the worst men, and dont give a rats ass about the divine feminine. A womb is after-all just potential. thats all they are... But without good men, the womb spoils and becomes rotten. You clearly dont know shit about the devine feminine or women because it is indeed a creator who casts the word into it. It was just a receiver then and still is now... oh and be dumb enough to elevate women beyond anything like that .. like the west has and you face ruin.. even the egyptians documented this time and time again. I'm sure a bunch of babylonians want you to think otherwise but that's the nature of the inversion that dams. It's seductive and almost true until you realize its a trick of SATAN.

>>41019599
>It's not /x/ related, women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce. They set the rules the males have to compete against to win reproductive possibilities.
No they don't. They cannot adhere to their own will day to day, much less adhering to rules via societal obligations. Stop pretending like you're the special unique snowflake. Into the trash your opinion goes. You will find your ideas alone with your disused ovaries.

>>41020937

They want more Euros to commit and die.

>>41020263
Artificial wombs make the woman valueless, even less than men who can actually make and build civilizations.

>>41019552 (OP)
There's more than the chromosomes and body that makes us counterparts anon. You wrote a long text, but in the end it's nature's way to counter the biological nature of men. Everything is directed to be reproductive. What you whitness is the absolute mirror of men. Call it bizzaro world or the negative of men. The man. It's meant to be this way. If it would be more pleasant there wouldn't be a hunt and fight about reproducing. But going to the personal experiences it's mostly you don't fit your reproductive parter, even if you reproduced with her. Nature wants more. More with you, and more with others. More.
Behind the curtains biology nobody will tell you in school.

>>41019892
>I wouldn't limit myself by only doing inherently 'male' stuff.
you will, as a man or woman respectively, do the things you do, whatever they are, in a male or female way, you cannot avoid it, whether you like it or not. are you denying natural reality? i dont think you consider yourself as an incorporial spirit just floating above the material being wholly detached from your current incarnation, no?

>>41019892
>Even then isn't what we consider male and female just social norms and things?
science disagrees.

https://www.todaysparent.com/baby/study-babies-prefer-boy-or-girl-toys/

>>41019892
>Do you think souls are born inherently male/female?
do you think souls are born into male/female bodies for no reason?

>>41019599
>women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce.

>>41019599
>They set the rules the males have to compete against to win reproductive possibilities.
before universal welfare, divorce-rape courts, widespread cuckoldry & low-t beta providers, the female had to prove her worth to the potential husband who would have to support her & the children for the rest of his life.

>>41019599
>Henceforth why the Divine Feminine lied in every females, but only a few men among the many can fool themselves for gods.
a woman is considered complete from birth, while boys have to become men.

>>41019599
>Spoiler, but I think it's why it's bad women talk about them being Divine, it's true but it work only if they are unaware of it, not full on themselves, deluded.
or they have been shamed by society for being boastful throughout history, nowadays the floodgates for their ego have been opened by feminism. they dont have to suffer repercussions & dont feel the need to hide it anymore. what is going on today is merely the baseline default female nature unleashed.

>>41019892
>I've never considered my soul to be truly male
your soul might not be.

>>41021688
>gnosticism non-gender god
in that case our bodily form is merely a mask the soul wears, we have to play either male or female roles in this divine play.

>>41019892
>Would I be indistinguishable from a soul/personal level as a natural female?
for a reason your soul sought our that pipeline into this world which is either male of female, all your history & reason for incarnating is tied to this particular form. not some theoretical other.

>>41019892
>Do you think souls are born inherently male/female?
The spirit I talk to says I'm female all the time. I have a male body, which I like, so I have some type of male existence. The spirit insists I'm female though. I never had any particular desire to alter my physical body, I do want to experience this femaleness in the spiritual dimensions, but it isn't going very well, though I believe it to be possible. I've experienced female forms of reptilian and dolphin life, but not really as a human.
I don't really know why I would be born as a man and not a woman, if my soul really was female. My speculation on this, is that whatever 'female' I am, that it isn't genetically human, and so it made more sense for it to represent the etheric counterpart to my physical x chromosome, then for it to be a 2nd physical x chromosome.

>>41019892
>silly bodily nonsense
are you rejecting all of the phenomenal world just like that?

>>41019552 (OP)
We HAVE been influenced by "women"...

>>41020021
>They exist to kill other men who want to take your stuff.
to take for themselves & impress women, like competition in nature, the bird builds a particular lavish nest & the female is more likely to commit to the procreation act.

nowadays we have plenty of resources & wealth in the west, you can live a comfortable life, however fashion trends force people to always stay relevant in the sexual marketplace & forces them to spend more just to stay sexually relevant. you dont need the expensive car, or if, there are many less fancy car brands that provide the same comfort without showing off, but people defenitely need the known brands that bring esteem & admiration with them. you dont need to dress in costly garbs either, good durable but less flashy brands do cost a lot also, but people need the well-known brand logo to be seen in order to signal resource-surplus to become attractive as a provider for a potential family.
>b-but people dont procreate
of course people use contraception but nature still lets us be aware of those signs & playact as though we were getting ready for pairbonding. men artificially created option in order to avoid such commitment to pregnancy like abortion but the basic instincts still work like its the stone age.

>>41019552 (OP)
Anon is wrong.
Men have an abundance of the air and fire elements. The nature of the fire element is to aspire higher.
Woman have an abundance of the water and earth elements. The nature of the water element is to always flow downwards, or to be stagnant. Thus they drag men into pettiness and materialism.

>>41020028
just because you came from women you necessarily have the duty to continue the cycle? you will never be free according to your worldview because your whole life is woven into a particular society with an enforced code of conduct. like you own anyone anything aside from basic etiquette.

>>41020046
>why aren’t gay men completely nonviolent and monk like
because they compete against the women for mens attention. the answer to imbalanced sex relation is not chosing the other sex but no sex at all.

>>41019599
>they set the rules men have to compete against
>have to
So which is it? Were women always oppressed throughout history or were they the ones making all the decisions? How does a woman make a decision if she cant enforce it?
How does a weak being force a stronger being into doing anything? Anon, are you a fucking moron or just trolling? Im seriously asking because the sheer volume of men that think women are some sort of stamp of approval from mother nature, some sort of god in flesh form that decides who lives or who dies makes me believe that the rate of incels is at least 75% of the total male population. No man eho has ever seen a fucking woman would ever remotely consider them responsible for natural selection.

Why were they constantly being raped and stolen from tribe to tribe throughout human history? Was that their decision too? How can a being with absolutely no agency or control make decisions or "select" for anything?

>>41021831
>Why were they constantly being raped and stolen from tribe to tribe throughout human history?
literally incel rage by men who couldnt get laid by consent

>>41021776
>comparing birds to humans
Shit well ducks rape each other but that would just be inconvenient for your little mommy-pleasing ass now wouldnt it? You do realize that the animal world does not adhere to nonphysical principles such as freedom or fairness. A strong chimp with limbs and the ability to grab will rape a weaker chimp if is able to do so. It certainly wont restrain itself and risk genetically dying just so that some bald bipedal ape anon in 2025 can justify his lack of dominance over the weakest of genders. Face it, you have been raised to seek approval, our current social dynamic is not in line with human nature as it was being shaped for hundreds of thousands of years.That fact causes too much cognitive dissonance in your cumbrain. You have no other choice but to reject objective reality to justify your servile and weak view of women as youve been raised into a false belief that women are capable of decision making.

>>41021886
>What is a free hooker? A whore!
Even your insults make no sense. Like your sexuality hasn't been debased by ideology en masse. Think about it for more that a second.

>>41022040
if you read them as insults thats your problem my guy

>>41022054
"literally incel rage by men who couldnt get laid by consent"
You haven't thought about whores for even a moment. Are you a retard?

>>41022083
and yet you think about whores all the time, how's that working out for you?

>>41019552 (OP)
>is all heoric struggle the inborn masculine desire to unify with his femal counterpart or is this all just a larp of this strange world that is wholly unnecessary since one can be close to god wihtout all the trouble & hassle?
I think it's both - when you're a dumb retarded caveman, a chaotic woman may serve that purpose to help you refine your idiot nature. But once you reach a certain point of self awareness and development you don't need a chaos harpie anymore, you need a genuine equal (not identical - only equal in level of spiritual development - though on the other path, the female path) to build a new way of life with.

The problems we're now seeing in developed nations between the sexes are a result of a lot of men having reached the level of development where they no longer need a chaos harpie, while the vast vast majority of women are incredibly far behind in spiritual development and aren't capable of being the spiritually-equal partners of these men. They're only capable of being chaos harpies - they've stagnated at that level for eons. The outlook is pretty dire - how does half the species catch up on thousands of years of spiritual delinquency that has left them as eternal children incapable and unsuitable to be mates for the males of their own species? On the other hand women are so socially susceptible, if there was a massive shift in the culture towards requiring women to be better, many women would at least perform the actions of trying to be better. Would this be sufficient to save the species? We'll see.

>>41022094
>Can't get laid
>nevermind hookers and whores
Are you fucking retarded?

>>41022180
are YOU retarded?
or did you get so busy being triggered by the word "incel" you didnt stop to think, maybe, hmm, there are guys who cant get laid despite the presence of hookers and whores

>>41022193
>can't despite hookers and whores
Yep, you're retarded

>>41022205
your mind cant even fathom the depths of inceldom that exist in the world
you're probably better off then

>>41022217
Think about the definitions of the words you're using. Repeating it doesn't make it true, no matter whatever newspeak moniker you use. It's a question you need to ask yourself WHY is it involuntary if there are hookers and whores who at the drop of a hat spread their legs? "Cannot fathom" you have hardly begun to think about this.

>>41022248
ironically you are making my point

>>41022250
Repeating it doesn't make it true, even when you stuff it down my projection sourced by you. You haven't proven it exists, even while agreeing with WHY IT DOESN'T EXIST.

>>41022271
i know you're trying to sound smart but you arent

>>41022276
ironically dumb hurr hurr

>>41022284
triggered by newspeak heh beta

>>41019552 (OP)
>op discovers duality

wait till you find out what copulins are
that they make guys literally "pussywhipped" as they say
something something 40 days b4 le sexo time the soul is "born", already.
thats why theres no argument for abortion. you would have to abort it 40days before even have had sex, which is impossible. just dont fking fornicate
something something shitzo screencap explaining that in one way to "get to heaven" one must have alchemy with their woman
am way too tired to search the screengrab

>>41022292
Original anon you replied to here.

I reiterate, your entire world view revolves around approval from the most volatile, inconsistent and downright delusional beings on this planet. Its easier to get into the good graces of a child in the body of an adult (a woman) than it is to shape yourself into something worthwhile and objectively of good quality. Its easier to appropriate a mask than it is to reshape yourself as an individual. Its easier to convince a woman (or at least take advantage of the positive delusions they conjure up about you) that you are something than it is to become something. All vanity and no substance. The thing is, mother nature responds only to objective facts, not the subjective perspective of some egotistical child who prefers the distorted images of the world around him over the facts and truth contained therein. Its easier to let a woman convince herself youre a dangerous man just because she likes your height and facial features than it is to become a dangerous and capable man. They simply do not respond to reality whatsoever. They spend their whole lives running away from it and living in barbie land. To a woman you might be worth something but history has proven that in a Darwinian sense, you can simultaneously be worth absolutely fucking nothing. Both on a psychological and down to the genetic level.

It must be easy not being burdened by reality. Like a down syndrome retard who has misattributed his survival to his own nonexistent competence whilst ignoring the permissiveness and safety of his environment.

Bottom line is, I accept your concession.

>>41021886
>nooo you HAVE to let her decide otherwise its not fair
>you haaveee too play by the man made rules just cuz i said so if you dont youre not a man
>you have to do what women say because you just have to ok
>Mother nature gave women the ability to point their finger (but only when men allow it) and chose a man to mate with (but only if he agrees to it)
>if you dont bend to the will of a weak and helpless woman you are either gay, an incel or a misogynist
>if you are able to impose your will you are not supposed to do that because mother nature apparently said so (nevermind the fact that it failed to provide women with sufficient defense mechanisms and methods of securing their choice without reliance on everything men say and do)
the absolute state of the modern eunuch. Must be nice living with an empty skull. Your own personal fishtank that anyone can piss in and you have no choice but to go along with it.

>>41019599
>Spoiler, but I think it's why it's bad women talk about them being Divine, it's true but it work only if they are unaware of it, not full on themselves, deluded. That part of the mysteries were designed to be known only by men.

Well you just admitted it so now I know my gender is divine, so now what? Here is my tits btw.

>>41019552 (OP)
>is all heoric struggle the inborn masculine desire to unify with his femal counterpart or is this all just a larp of this strange world that is wholly unnecessary since one can be close to god wihtout all the trouble & hassle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu2OYcgr4rM&

>>41019599
>they pick who will reproduce
This has only been the case in most recent history, like since women got equal rights which is essentially matriarchy, in the past men would just rape them, in reality they have no power

>>41023655
that's animalistic

>>41023664
Humans are animals, and women must be fucking put back in their place, Muslims are right about them

>>41023728
NTA bit great, we get to be bred with undesirables again, wonderful. Thank you Allah! Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

>>41023728
transcending our base animal nature is a choice. we already know how this ends if we don't.

>>41023751
>>41023754
Women are evil and this is only amplified when they are encouraged, when they are given equal rights it is matriarchy because they can hold men hostage with their bodies, there's a militarized police state protecting women from being disciplined by their husbands, this needs to go, just because we are animals does not mean anything about base instinct or something, I'm just letting you know biologically we are animals and not some sort of Christian conception that we are somewhere between gods and animals or something retarded like this, women need to shut the fuck up, cover their bodies up, and be made second class citizens again in a patriarchal society.

>>41022119
Spiritually advanced men do seem to have trouble finding a mate, and men who do well with women seem "primitive" but I don't know.

>>41023815
You don't seem very compassionate or pure yourself. You're filled with hatred.

>>41020189
this is how (((they))) punish them. and now its spreading to everyone else to increase the punishment.

>>41023322
>Your own personal fishtank that anyone can piss in and you have no choice but to go along with it.
kek, time for twilight zone and bed, goodnight /x/.

>>41023865
I'm not compassionate, and I am hateful, you're a Christian if you hold these things as virtues

Women are cute when they do what I want them to do, otherwise... let's not get into the level of uselessness.

>>41019552 (OP)
If women could have their way, humanity would living in the stone age for eternity.

>>41019552 (OP)
The whole "women drive men out of complacency" bit is a giant load of bullshit. The majority of inventors that have paved the way for our societies to make dramatic leaps forward, were societal outcasts that had a terrible time with women and often died childless. Women prefer the type of men who do the opposite of things like that, big, loud, stupid, violent men with destructive impulses is what women prefer first and foremost. Women do not drive us forward as a species, they drag us backward.

>>41019552 (OP)
screencap is just dumb /pol/ drivel
(by the way, IQ isn't just 'pattern recognition', this is a misconception)

>>41019892
>Do you think souls are born inherently male/female?
Yes. And I think they likely are exclusively male.

>>41019799
>masons combining male & female twintowers into one, comprised of up & down pointing triangles, the star of david
They only partially achieved this and it was by attributing things of men to a female character because otherwise she wouldnt exist or she sure as fuck would not be nearly as powerful as they want her to be.

Essentially the only way to have this is by trapping a male entity in a female body and try to pass it off as some sort of male/female marriage. But its not. Just a botched manifestation.

But also a misunderstanding because there is not a male/female anything. There are males, and a thief of their domains that is female identified.

Stop ascribing the natural things to the spiritual. Its never going to be a thing. Combining male and female in one is just chaos, its just trying to have the useless female hijack that which belongs to the men. Greedy ass bitch and her pussy obsessed simps.

They just hate Sol and want him replaced with "the Star" Venus lmao.

>>41023300
>>41023322
man you guys are really triggered writing a whole manifesto because you cant handle feminine energy

>>41020263
fuck women

>>41024891
thats the ironic part about this whole thing, isnt it
thats all everyone wants, to fuck women

>>41024982
yea after working 12 hrs we do want to fuck our wife but shes gatekeeping the goods

>go on 4chan
>the incels have insane schizophrenic theories about women
>go on crystal cafe
>the femcels have insane schizophrenic theories about men
both sides are Incapable of seeing eachother as human beings

>>41025104
But are the insane schizophrenic theories inherent properties of our souls that where there from the start, or simply byproducts of living in this physical world as a male/female?

>>41025124
Simply a byproduct of loneliness and insecurity being rationalised as theory and fact rather than struggles we all face.

>>41024891
>>41024982
>>41025077

>>41025104
>retard enters thread
>claims everyone stupid for having any opinion at all
>claims to posess the holy grail, the eternal well of wisdom about the topic at hand
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves the thread
qrd on your based & objective assessment of intersexual relations, einstein?

>>41025077
she outlines his side profile to preserve for posterity what the physiognomy of a real warrior & noble/heroic genetics look like after the guy dies in battle. consider coins with the head profiles of famous established individuals, same reason.

>>41019552 (OP)
I have no interest in proving anything to the world, much less some dumb woman. I never asked to be here. This is a prison to be escaped from, not a paradise to revel in as far as I'm concerned. The truly spiritual are the only non-NPCs. Everyone talks about an afterlife, but what about a before life? I was probably happy as some undifferentiated bit of energy floating in hyperspace somewhere.

>>41021896
>Shit well ducks rape each other
thats what humans do too, you trying to claim that men are entierly free from animalistic behaviour? men is like between animal & god, you are rather the one or the other. homosexuals claim that because homosexual interactions exist in monkeys they are allowed to do it too & its natural but so does rape & cannibalism exist in the animal kingdom. men most certainly has a beastly-element but we strive to god & become noble beings actually worthy of the label human.

>>41025193
damn bro you need to get laid

>>41019552 (OP)
The power women have is the power men let them have. Just disregard what they say and everything becomes clearer.

>>41025178
i am calling neither side stupid or less intelligent, im calling them irrational. My point and opinion is in the original reply

>>41019552 (OP)
Don't try to water down demonic/ayy interference into simple politics/ideological disputes. There are actual real aliens/demons hiding among us (since they look like human to us, we can't easily discern them), some are hiding in unreachable corners of our planet, and they're the ones pulling the strings. All this left/right and other ideological garbage is just bread and circus to distract people, and sadly it works every time. There're these know-it-all libertarian wnbe philosophers who think they know it all, teeming with pride, only because they sponged the information from some book recommendations recommended in a glowie infested fashwave discord or other shit, or maybe from some board here. They think that them reading some illuminated words from a crypto mason's ink will make them suddenly know actual knowledge and wisdom. No they wont, but that's what pride does to a motherfucker.

>>41023815

Tell your mom that.

>>41025376

This applies to everyone, not just women.

>>41019599
> women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce
>They set the rules the males have to compete against to win reproductive possibilities.

So if us men can just break our sex drives (while still keeping and retaining the rest of the positive male traits that come with masculinity and testosterone), we could have literal eternal paradise? And no, I'm not talking about becoming gay. There has to be a way to kill the sex drive and lust for women while maintaining high testosterone levels for productivity and setting goals.

>>41026341

Self-control is a simple concept. Apply it or perish.

>>41026433
>Self-control is a simple concept. Apply it or perish.

It's not me that is the problem, it's all the other simp men out there in the world who cannot control their lust and thirst for literal demons (women) that hate us and would think nothing of watching men die right before them. How do we break the sex drives and lust for women within other men while sparing their testosterone and male traits and without compromising their endocrine system? Surely, there must be some sort of herb out there that can do this.

>>41026499

Just let things be without holding prejudices and judgments against them. Life is a journey for everyone. You canot know celibacy without debauchery.

>>41025104
its funny isnt it?
i got b& from all boards on the 3rd day or something, unluckily.
and i tried my best to sow harmony, wisdom, truth and comprehension. im rather confident that the mods or admins over there as well as /here/ are glowies, yids people who want to see the world burn/conflict/discord.
sad times

>>41020321
Death to the world.

>>41019599
>natural selection
Humans can't be compared to the animal kingdom. Natural selection involves violence, incest, and rape. Affirmative action isn't natural selection, feminism isn't natural selection, government intervention isn't natural selection.

>>41019552 (OP)
nah its bullshit off course, the great men of history achieved only with the absence of women. obviously they will cope about this forever because they cant accept their own uselessness as a whole.

TOUGH LUCK! you cant make up your own rules, never worked this way. you can run from it all you want.

no one gives a shit about missus important telling her man child cuvk to bring out the trash or get a promotion. this is how women think. its always degenerate and errattic bs.

ANYWAY:..

>>41019984
Studies show that historically speaking Queens were statistically more like to start wars than Kings.

>>41025568
>>41025104

>>41022119
thx for aqctually bothering to address the concern from the op.

>>41022119
wouldnt you say that its the task of the masculine to elevate the female, teach her the right parth? since bad husbands shape their wives in negatives ways & vice versa, isnt the female always the receiving, passive part in a relation?

>>41019552 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP7Nszp4Iwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So

>>41019552 (OP)
Women are the faustian dilemma because they are never satisfied.

>>41031739
but in the end of faust (faust 2) faust comes to the conclusion that only consistency gets you freedom & life. so satisfying a woman lies in nevel eltting up keeping up the performance.
while in the beginnig faust is desperate over the fact that he studied this & that but still doesnt recognise the truth that keeps the world together, so he is seeking stagnation, the final holy grail of knowledge, so he can rest but life isnt about rest as it turns out but about repreated struggle.
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The last word Wisdom ever has to say: He only earns his Freedom and Existence, Who’s forced to win them freshly every day.

―Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust II
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Das ist der Weisheit letzter Schluß: Nur der verdient sich Freiheit wie das Leben, Der täglich sie erobern muß.

―Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust II, Vers 11579 f. / Faust

>>41031739
>>41031856
in other words, women are never satisfied but you are strong enough to continue satisfying them. stagnation is death, you are meant to find your equal & be effortlessly masculine just as the feminine will shine to the fullest.

Is parable, only:
The insufficient,
Here, grows to reality:
The indescribable,
Here, is done:
Woman, eternal,
Beckons us on.

―Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust II
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Alles Vergängliche
Ist nur ein Gleichnis;
Das Unzulängliche,
Hier wird's Ereignis;
Das Unbeschreibliche,
Hier ist's getan;
Das Ewig-Weibliche
Zieht uns hinan.

―Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust II

>>41031856
>>41031905
>faustlutscher
cringe, häng dich auf, danke.

>>41032234
dont use our language then if you dont have respect for germans greatest.

>>41031905
>>41031739
you are partly right of course, if men are to give their all, then women must be/become worthy of our sacrifice. our instinct of reluctance to participate in the current atmosphere is not to be dismissed.

The first woman, Pandora, was created by the gods in response to Prometheus stealing fire and giving it to men. Women are fire, they draw men like moths, the foolish ones will be burned, and the clever ones can harness them to build a stable civilization, but the threat of them getting out of control and destroying everything is always there. A curse and a blessing in one, depending how you use them.

>>41032339
i have respect for actual germans, not freemasonic jesuit larpers von der agentur, du wannabe nerd

>>41019966
>>41019979
>>41019994
So raping women is not only kino, but it's also mandatory and canon?

>>41020189
So they became satan worshippers after the westerners imported satanism to their country? Because that's the symbol she's doing

>>41020431
>a jewish guy on thiel payroll is pro pedophilia
not very surprising

>>41020560
It does line up, if you were capable of noticing the patterns

But since you're on 3 booster shots it might already be over for you

>>41020750
Once you realize this "matrix" shit has been going for 2000 years or more (since there's been ayy among us for that long or longer), you kinda give up on this world entirely. Go ahead and tell me how we're gonna destroy those energy weapon antennas on the moon, or the lair of demons in inner earth/hollow earth, when they don't let people even close to antartic ice wall. When every military of the entire world is on the side of the demons, it's kinda over

>>41020177
Americans are conquered too, retard. They only feel like in the top of the world since their illusion is more realistic

>>41020639
Fucking Texas, the epitome of all hat, no cattle

>>41019599
>It's not /x/ related, women are the main drive of natural selection because they pick who will reproduce.
There is nothing natural about who they pick to reproduce. Women are fucking retard degenerates who intentionally devolve anything they are near. They unuronically exist to facilitate devoltion of the human race. I'm pretty sure the parallel species/reptilians edited a gene in females to facilitate this and ensure we wouldn't become a threat to them by limiting our evolution through women.

>>41020937
why is she hugging a repitilian belly

>>41021688
>In Gnosticism, the divine is often conceived of as transcending gender
this sounds like freemason BS. They invert the good of gnosticism and turn it into lucifer worship. When christian says "gnosticism is heresy", they're actually talking about the crypto freemason priests preaching them about "god" in mass while also worshipping lucifer in secret, but they're not comfortable enough to lynch the masons from their communities because many of the christians said christian may like might actually be crypto mason. So a community of light worshippers is almost openly housing false light worshippers, and said false light worshippers then raise in papacy ranks to give preaches and ceremons in the church for normie christians. It's like a full circle

It goes without saying that what the masons are practicing is not real gnosticism, and christians calling gnostics heretics while simultaneously providing safe haven for satan worshipping freemasons are fucking idiots.

Women aren't real.