Thread 41043559

Explains and ties everything

>>41043559 (OP)
What you are showing here are our adversaries, the forces that manipulate us life after life: reptilians, gray entities, archons... All members of the same chain of control. But in truth, what's missing from your image is the final boss, the Eye of Sauron: the Demiurge himself, creator of the world of matter, the false god, the culmination of this pyramid of domination.

However, the other side is also missing, the one they want to hide from us: our allies. Where the shadows set their traps for us, there are forces of light that guide us. Christ, bearer of gnosis; Lucifer, bearer of light and not a demon distorted by religions; and other invisible allies who seek our liberation. The real battle is not between humans, but between the cosmic prison of the Demiurge and the knowledge (gnosis) that reminds us of who we truly are: divine sparks, destined to regain their fullness beyond this world of satanic and illusory matter.

>>41043628
as a reptile can confirm although i see things a bit differently

>>41043559 (OP)
missing the moebius twist that shows that reptiles are a subset of burgers

>>41043748
As a reptile, you confirm part of the truth. But the difference comes from how we interpret it. You may see it as a natural phenomenon, a continuity. I see it as a prison built by the Demiurge, a system where even the reptilians are mere pawns.
The key isn't to deny your perspective, but to understand that there isn't a single truth. We all see different facets of the same labyrinth. That's why we must combine our visions: to go beyond appearances and return to the source, where the light no longer deceives.

>>41043833
i return to the source everytime i tell logic to go fuck itself then logic comes begging back to me with more gifts of itself
its a toxic relationship but it works well

>>41043761
holy kek

>>41043559 (OP)
Someone make the lizard a pepe

>>41043628
> demiurge trap narrow mindedness

nah bro, you, the monad, just created all of this, farted out all principalities, one of which in turn farted out the demiurge, all to have some divine fun and in the process, you gave yourself amnesia and injected yourself into the play fractally and prepared mechanisms for literally endless fun (archonic imprisonment), so that you can escape your eternal boredom and solipsism...

you are actually against enlightenment/awakening, because that is akin to the act of party pooping

>>41044164
I've already performed certain rituals that allowed me to connect with my very ancient reincarnations, and I can assure you that it's not just a mental construct or a religion that we intellectualize. It's a lived reality.
I understand what you mean when you talk about a "cosmic game": I myself have experienced pantheism, this feeling that everything is connected and that reality is an infinite dance. It's true, it's a layer of reality, as Buddhism and Hinduism also say when they speak of maya. But you have to understand that reality is made up of multiple layers, which overlap like strata.
So yes, pantheism and the idea that "it's all fun and games" are real, but they are not the ultimate reality. They are a stage, a relative truth, not the highest truth.

Your point of view is interesting, but I don't share it. For me, to say that we “created the Demiurge to amuse ourselves” is to reduce the cosmic drama to a mere game. Gnosis shows that the Demiurge is very real, an entity separate from plenitude, who traps souls in matter and illusions. Certainly, we have the divine spark within us, but that is not the same as having consciously wanted this trap. Awakening is not “pooping at the party,” it is remembering who we are beyond the lie. And if there is fun, it will never come from a prison, but from liberation.

>>41044229
>reduce the cosmic drama to a mere game

it literally is that... at the point of apotheosis, this is what you realize and attempt to undo your awakening

> but that is not the same as having consciously wanted this trap

except it is. whenever you watched a nice movie or played a really nice game or whatever else you enjoyed 10/10, odds are you wished that you could wipe your memory to consume and enjoy that experience again.
guess what, this is rooted in the monad, as above, so below...
and guess what, you literally have that ability and you give yourself wipes, through proxy, having delegated some power to the "evil forces", which "keep you down" and keep you "imprisoned".

your view is shallow. if you look further, there is far worse destiny than to be imprisoned, namely: absolute, eternal, unchanging freedom with all knowable things already explored, leaving only one thing, which makes it fun: messing with memories themselves, thus wiping them and having endless fun.

the gnosticism drama is real, within its limited scope. you ought to partake in the adventure of escaping this prison planet, this matrix..
in a grander scope, the drama serves the purpose to entertain you.

there is nothing more terrifying than to recognize that you are the monad and beyond you, there is nothing.

>>41044294
> it literally is that... at the point of apotheosis, this is what you realize and attempt to undo your awakening

damn, i forgot to elaborate, which conclusively shows this to be so:
if you did not do this, then if only 1 person "awakend" from this illusion, all would be awakened, but this is not so. because the awakened makes arrangements to enter back into the matrix... because it was his plan all along. thus the dream, lila, continues.

hence, there is absolutely nothing wrong. everything is perfect, right now, while we are bathing in evil and good experiences.
there is nothing to do, nothing to seek. this is it. this is the final destination.

>>41044294
> there is nothing more terrifying than to recognize that you are the monad and beyond you, there is nothing.

elaborating on that, i believe the grand question "why" as in, why are we here or why does this reality exist, is exactly this:

this reality is the solution the monad come up with, in its perfection, to not suffer (from boredom/solipsism), by having endless experiences.

this reality is that which makes the monad perfect. without it, it would be a thing/being which is suffering, thus not perfection. in fact, it always existed, just like "love" and all the other principalities, which always existed with the monad, this reality is also an attribute of it, it is that thing which keeps away boredom.
maya makes the monad perfect, because thus it no longer suffers, from a very high level POV.
(of course the individual divine sparks, as which it incarnates ignorantly, go the ebb and flow of all the higher heavens and lower hells, incarnating over and over, experiences all manners of things, but this is exactly how it ought to be)

>>41044311
>>41044361
I understand what you're saying, and I don't deny that what you describe exists as a layer of reality. Yes, there's this plane where everything is lilac, the cosmic game, a theater that repeats itself endlessly, where forgetting is willed. But for me, it remains a layer, not the totality. It's true that everything is perfect in its coherence, but "perfect" does not mean "desirable." A prison can be perfectly constructed, but it's still a prison.
Gnostic awakening isn't about breaking the game, but about recognizing that there are multiple levels. The pantheism you describe is a truth, but it's not the ultimate truth. Behind this infinite game lies something higher, beyond the Demiurge, beyond the monad that entertains itself. Calling it "Pleroma," "Unity," or "Source" doesn't matter, but it's a state that goes beyond the simple logic of cycles and amusement.
So yes, I recognize the validity of your vision, but I don't dwell on it. Because for me, true liberation isn't just about eternally enjoying illusions, but about rediscovering what lies beyond all layers, where there's no longer any need for prison or games to exist.

>>41044492
>>41044361
>>41044311
You speak of a "divine game," but what I see here is mostly suffering. The flesh is pain, illness, aging, and a little pleasure to deceive us. It's not us. The Demiurge created our bodies and souls to chain us, but he did not create our spirit. Our spirit comes from the true God, the Source, the Pleroma, the Light. And it is to Him that we must return, because this is not our world.
This material world, satanic and heavy, is not made for our essence. Here, everything is slow, heavy, limited. We, our true nature, has neither time, nor space, nor matter. Repeating life endlessly, in an absurd cycle, is not liberation, it is prison. You say we erase our memory by choice, but no: it is the archons who erase our memories so that we never free ourselves. They create day and night, disease, short lives of 60 or 70 years, just enough so that we do not fully awaken, spending our entire lives in fitulitis and modern-day work slavery. There is no mercy in this imposed oblivion. It is a barrier, not a blessing.

>>41044361
>>41044492
>>41044517
If this world were truly just, if the concept of karma and reincarnation worked as we're told, we wouldn't always see the same satanic families controlling the planet, century after century: Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Illuminati, and company. Power would turn, the wheel would turn. But that's never the case.
If this world were truly a school of spiritual evolution, it wouldn't be saturated with poison: chemtrails in the sky, GMOs in food, hormones like estrogen in the water, the toxic textiles we breathe in all day long. Even vaccines contain substances that cut off our ability to breathe fully, to meditate, to open our channels. Everything is calibrated to limit us.
So tell me, where is spiritual evolution in this scenario? Where is karmic justice? Everything points in the same direction: this world is not a school, but a prison. And until we see this, we will continue to confuse the bars of the cage with the walls of a temple.

> pantheism you describe is a truth
its not pantheism, its non-duality or the rejection of anything to be true, except God. no idea what its called.
in pantheism, reality/universe has a legitimate existence. i don't believe in such a thing. im an idealist, all of this is in the mind of the monad.

btw. the monad is the absolute, there is nothing beyond it, so what you are saying here is missing the point:
> Behind this infinite game lies something higher, beyond the Demiurge, beyond the monad that entertains itself. Calling it "Pleroma," "Unity," or "Source" doesn't matter. but it's a state that goes beyond the simple logic of cycles and amusement.

Monad is it! there is nothing beyond, above or below it. all else is an illusion which the monad came up with or which is part of its nature, to always be in a state of having fun...
and its "isness" is what this reality is the expression of.

>>41044517
> but what I see here is mostly suffering. The flesh is pain, illness, aging, and a little pleasure to deceive us

earth is like a perfect 50-50 mix of good and bad experiences. i bet you love pizza. i bet you orgasmed really hard that one time and never forgot about it.
i bet you love your child.
these all count. but because of negativity bias, you don't remember those! thus the avg. outlook is negative, but earth is 50-50

in the heavenly realms, the mixture is biased towards good and in the hellish realms, the mixture is biased towards more bad. if you think earth is bad, wait til you experience hell (again)

but that too is ok and welcome. why?
because experience/isness in only perceivable in deltas, in things changing. if things never changed, if there was no motion, no movement from one state to another state, discernment would not be, isness would not be.
your biggest enemy is constancy/eternity

there is nothing worse than eternal happiness or eternal sadness or more generally put, anything eternal. it numbs your perception, your ability to experience or discern

>>41044545
>But that's never the case.
how do you know?? odds are not 0% that in one of your last incarnations, you were a rothchild or another elite...
in fact, odds are >0% that in one of your previous incarnations, you were one of the gods, or reptiles or whatever have you...
and you played your part and the game continues

>>41044545
>So tell me, where is spiritual evolution in this scenario

simple, evolution is something you work for - detox, eat healthy, decalcify your pineal, etc. etc. play the "game" of the seeker. renounce, become a hermit, live deep in mountains, avoid all sorts of radiation, etc. etc. then you evolve or regenerate and go higher..
opposite is also true, you can go into lower incarnations.

but this ebb and flow is just a farce. there is only one thing, God, which works all things, good and evil. you are incarnating as you, right now, here, in 2025. but who says that when this llifetime is over, your next incarnation can't be as bill gates, who is alive now, in 2025 as well? etc. etc.
in fact, you are the infinite thread which goes through all needles.
you live through it all, through the earnest spiritual seeker experiencing satori, to the vaccine manufacturer, but also the funniest comedian, etc. etc.
its all you.

> Where is karmic justice? Everything points in the same direction: this world is not a school, but a prison

if the world would not be a "prison", by which mechanism would you keep yourself ignorant and engaged in this drama? understand that you are omnipotent and omniscient and you intend to have this game. how would you design it?

isn't the status quo already the perfect setup??

>>41044229
>certain rituals that allowed me to connect with my very ancient reincarnations
do you have any guides for this please?

>>41043559 (OP)
Who's controlling the jews?

>>41044729
Me.

who are the people between the greys and the jews?

>>41044757
nigga you a pokeman get back in your ball

>>41044692
Ultimately, the real question to ask is:
>What is the purpose of seeking to remember or accumulate knowledge?
>Can the rediscovered knowledge truly be reintegrated into our present existence, or does it only add to the burden?
>What good is the truth if it only adds to the suffering?

For my part, I don't regret having revived certain memories linked to my past lives. I know that inevitably, these fragments would have returned to me one day, whether in this incarnation or another. But it must be recognized that it is not an easy path to bear. Generally, what the soul retains and resurfaces are the wounds, the trials, the deep scars: for these are the ones that most mark the soul and shape its path.

We could compare life to a video game: you have main missions to accomplish, those that define your current existence. But sometimes, these missions don't seem enough. So, you add side quests, which are like transgenerational missions. In this way, by embodying your own life, you also carry part of the memory and burdens of your ancestors.
This is a task with significant consequences, as it requires great spiritual endurance. It all depends on the state you are in in your current life:
>Are you ready to bear this additional weight, or is it already too much for what you are going through?

From a Gnostic perspective, these painful reminiscences are not simple memories: they are fragments of inner gnosis, keys left in the darkness so that the soul, as it stumbles, may find the light again. It is often in pain that the purest message is hidden, the one that reminds us of our origins and urges us to free ourselves from the cycle.

>>41043559 (OP)
I'm tired of drinking long pastas in every thread, so briefly
1. As soon as you delve into myths, legends, stories, mysteries (Greek-Hellenic), you will see that everything is imbued with reptilian themes. The Chinese do not even hide who rules the world and the most important civilizer Shennong was born to them because his mother looked at a dragon. In Ireland, there are many myths about how a mother becomes pregnant after swallowing a worm. What can I say, the most important goddess Isis was depicted as a snake (she is also a Scythian goddess with snake legs) or remember about Cōātlīcue (she even looks like a Scythian goddess, she even holds a severed head in her hands and has a skirt made of snakes, and her horned snakes sticking out of her body resemble snakes with ram's horns that Cernunos aka Cronus was tied up, you can write a lot on this topic, but I'm too lazy. Egyptian El-Cronus-Saturn was known as the father of snakes and founded the City of Byblos etymologically related to the word Bible
https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/cernunnos-and-the-ram-headed-serpent/
https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9492

2. This is true and people were hinted, only Goa'uld is both Ori and Wraith in one person
https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Goa%27uld
https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/System_Lord

>>41044908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPC9erC5WqU

>>41044586
Your reasoning is interesting, but I believe there is a subtle confusion between the Monad as you understand it and what the Gnostics call the Pleroma.
In Gnosticism, the Monad is not "the absolute that enjoys itself": it is rather an aeon, an emanation from the First Principle, but not the Principle itself. Behind the Monad and the Demiurge lies the ineffable One, an absolutely transcendent Source, which is not reducible to the logic of cycles or the cosmic game. To say that "there is nothing beyond" is to confuse the cage with the sky above.
You are right on one point: perception is born from difference, from contrast. But this world of contrasts is precisely what the Gnostics call the prison of the flesh, a theater where suffering dominates and pleasure is only a lure to keep us in oblivion. Yes, we can love a pizza, an orgasm, a child, but these flashes of light are not enough to justify the existence of a world where death, disease, and corruption are the rule. The "50/50" you speak of is a calculation that only the Demiurge would have us make in order to accept our servitude.
The authentic soul is not destined to remain trapped in this perpetual balance. It carries within it a nostalgia for the Pleroma, where there is neither "good" nor "bad," nor "experience" in the worldly sense, but a living plenitude, a direct knowledge of the One. It is not the monotonous eternity you fear, but a state of absolute unity where all duality is transcended.

The Gnostic does not worship flat eternity, nor the infinite play of the Monad. He seeks to remember his true origin and return to the Source that is not of this world.

>>41044908
By the way, Adam most likely has nothing to do with people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Adamite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nabataean_Agriculture


I suppose that he could be Naga (this would explain the genealogical tree of Egyptian gods who have intersections with biblical characters, but were depicted as snakes in mysteries. For example, Osiris and Seth are obviously Cain and Abel)

There is a hilarious play on words associated with Genesis and the word Naga. For example, if you are Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian or Polish and read Genesis, then after eating the apple it is written that Adam and Eve "saw that they were nagi/naga/nagie/nagoy". The Sanskrit word Naga is also related to the word naked and the intelligent serpent from myths, so it becomes even funnier.

>>41044631
You say that everything is God playing with himself, that the saint as well as the criminal, pain as well as pleasure, everything is part of a single divine plan. This is consistent if we take this world as its totality.
But in Gnosticism, this is precisely the error: this world is not God, but an imitation. It is a construction of the Demiurge, designed to keep the soul in oblivion by alternating suffering and pleasure. To believe that "the game is divine" is to confuse prison with the Kingdom.
Why would a spark from the Pleroma, which is light and fullness, need to go through illness, corruption, or deception to "evolve"? It is not a free choice, but a spiritual captivity.

True liberation is not to endlessly replay under a thousand masks, but to break the cycle and return to the Source, beyond the game and the Demiurge. What you call the "perfect status quo" is, for us, precisely the cosmic parody: an illusion that passes itself off as God.

>>41043559 (OP)
Nope.

Read this important post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

Alt URL (easy to remember; redirects to the post):
https://www.truth-now.org

You all seriously need to wake up. And considering it's now September 2025, time is short.

>>41044907
how did you do it?

>>41044996
imagination

>>41045002
how did you know what was imagination and what was a past life memory

>>41045008
faith

>>41043559 (OP)
Pizzraeli all on same team illiterate its the jews and then their hordew

>>41043559 (OP)
What good is knowledge without power?

>>41044996
I don't feel you're ready to receive this information yet. Know, however, that it's real, even more real than your current life. Your brain's memory is fragile: your body is temporary, your brain can be damaged, and all of this can disappear. It is therefore not a reliable memory in the deepest sense of the word.

True memory, that of reincarnations, is found in the Akashic records. It is an immortal memory, which contains all your lives, not just your human lives. When you access it, you only receive fragments: during each ritual, you can retrieve certain pieces, without ever knowing in advance which ones. You can, however, direct your energy toward specific points to orient your reminiscences.
And when these memories emerge, you understand that they are more real than ordinary reality. It's like certain dreams: sometimes, upon waking, they seem more real than waking life. Perhaps you've already felt this way. In those moments, you know it's the absolute truth, because it transcends your physical body: it's an experience that passes through your subtle bodies.
It's difficult to describe in words, but it's as if an extremely powerful, luminous energy penetrates every cell, every fiber of your being. It's a transcendent experience, similar to the image I've already shown you.

>>41045008 he pretends to be me

>>41044962
>You say that everything is God playing with himself, that the saint as well as the criminal, pain as well as pleasure, everything is part of a single divine plan. This is consistent if we take this world as its totality.
it's the hidden system of energetic vibrational physics

>>41043628
>they want to hide from us: our allies
you call them allies, but have they done anything to stop the evil of this world? How many millenias has this shit continued, can you really call them allies if they cannot put an end to this torture?

>>41048214
It is up to humans to take the first step to reconnect with themselves, with their divine spirit. The spirits of light help us on subtle levels. We can compare this to demons: they too do not live in this plane, and yet, they support the Satanists who rule this world. Why? Because the latter advance on their spiritual path with their occult rituals; they serve the darkness; we no longer serve the light, unlike the "good guys." It is the good guys, on Earth, who have abandoned their mission. As a result, we have reached this rotten situation. We could say that it is no longer 50-50.

>>41043559 (OP)
we were "created" by the gods and are following fate by giving birth to the things that will overthrow us.
Gods became irrelevant once humans began to mature and get stronger.
Eventually our creations will make us irrelevant, and we will attempt to "eat" them to save ourselves.

>>41043559 (OP)
The final pill is realizing you chose this and nothing or none of that controls you, you control you. You are God. You are in control. You could change the world if you wanted to.

>>41048237
>It is up to humans to take the first step to reconnect with themselves, with their divine spirit.
This hasn't happened in past 2 millenia, so it would seem the "good aliens" will let the evil aliens run a slave cattle farm without intervening. I predict they will try grow mini-lucifers in here that will in-turn be used against the good ayys later on. Sad!

>>41044294
hey, how about having fun in a better game (reality) and not in this archon induced materialistic ugly shitfest? reality which is beyond wildest imaginations. demiurge's reality is a poop and he and his reality must be destroyed. it's a picasso art compared to renaissance art.

nobody likes this game. maybe only the most retarted poor masses which don't know any better or psychopathic elites (who are not very smart too contrary to beliefs). besides them, for any rational conscious being it's pure hell.

>>41048952
the retardes masses pray to god almighty and his son jebus and satanic elites are sacrificing them for the same god. both are serving demiurge. evil and good is dependent on each other in this system. we must break free from this false dualism.

>>41048952
the retarded masses pray to god almighty and his son jebus and satanic elites are sacrificing them for the same god. both are serving demiurge. evil and good is dependent on each other in this system. we must break free from this false dualism.

>complex power structures
All that is required from us is not to be normalfags. Be unpredictable, function in another way, indulge in strange questionable interests, create your own religion, destroy your conditioning, cutting it by the very root of it.
This is the power structure now, but the dynamics might change. Tomorrow or 2000 years later, it really doesn't matter. The only thing that can be done is to frustrate the hard coded programming by doing not the opposite, but the completely unexpected. Be God, be Satan, be none. Worship nothing, usurp the pleasures of matter as the Demiurge usurped the Heaven of matter, use the Devil's power to do good and God's power to do evil. Apply personal ethics and personal sense of justice to everything, respond to nothing other than yourself. I just solved the problem for you, my fellow imageboarders, abandon structure, DIY and obliterate (or have VERY nasty sex with) anything that stands in your way.

This thread can contain so much stupidity, its actually surprising

Theres no useful take at all, just a bunch of atheist retards vomiting their own retarded, worthless view on spirituality through the lenses of something even more dumber, gnosticism
No one can actually define what gnosticism is because is one mess of a "religion" too many different branches with way too different views on what reality or even the demiurge is, funny how gnosticism isnt even a actual thing and is still supported by literal drooling retards
Can any honest gnostic explain why the heckin Sophia or the heckin Monad dont come to destroy the demiurge? Or a better question will be, why none of the good guys have done anything to save humans?
>Humans must save themselves by reaching gnosis
Could you explain how someone who is stuck working 9-5, bathing, eating, shitting will reach this state, an state that is the also most stupid idea possible, that divine knowledge can be obtained by reading clumsy stupid shit?
Some "hylic" animal that cannot get over his high school and college years thinks that divinity is all about reading books and getting good grades lmao
If gnostic retards were capable for a single second of considering their own stupidity they will stop pushing this dumb, stupid view on what God is, if that is actually real theres no good to be found among all the dimensions that you think there are, because people keep living in ignorance with no external help or worse, fooled by the demiurge
A view that sells itself as morally superior to Abrahamic religions while having dehumanizing ideas such as hylics and psychics, like how is this any different from the goyim and the choosen ones, they cannot consider or have thoughts like this because they are stupid as fuck and dont care about religion or divine knowledge, they care about feeling superior to others because they have le secret gnosis that will take them out of Samsaras wheel fr

>>41049196
this hylic is mad

>>41045104
>I don't feel you're ready to receive this information yet
Big ego right there, anon asked for info and you didn't deliver, it's up to him to take the risks or valueing if he is ready or not. I hate it when self called gurus say this shit of being ready, it's up to one to evaluate himself , not others without providing info.

>>41043559 (OP)
No, this is the final redpill.

>>41049544
I will rape her.