Thread 41309694

It's obvious that The Bible as a text is a veiled metaphor and allegory for certain Astrological and even scientific phenomena (Astrotheology), it also contains the mysteries of previous civilizations encoded into it like some Babylonian themes, with that being said where can i learn or read a "Decoded Bible" per se, or a text that unlocks it's mysteries? The only text that comes to mind is Manly P. Halls "How To Understand Your Bible".

Santos Bonacci also did some interesting videos trying to decode The Bible through the lens of Astrotheolgy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_sEKLzLeoQ

There's got to be some Gnostic decoding of The Bible out there somewhere right?

https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9066

https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9492

>Jews believe the world is 6,000 years old
>Civilization in Mesopotamia arose 6,000 years ago
>The Sumerians wrote that kingship came from heaven and that the gods taught how to sow, reap, give plows, pickaxes, and build cities, etc.
>Abraham was from a Sumerian city
Creating a world = creating a first city

This does not mean that everything is fiction, it’s just that all religious (including pagan) texts are veiled and confused (on purpose)

>>41309845
I know the texts are veiled and confused on purpose, what i want to see is if there is any unveiled version anywhere, those links you sent don't cover all of it.

Why don't you stop basing your life on jewish desert tales and just observe reality and grasp truth for yourself

>>41309694 (OP)
You can’t because you’ve already made up your mind about what it contains
>veiled metaphor and allegory for certain Astrological and even scientific phenomena (Astrotheology), it also contains the mysteries of previous civilizations encoded into it like some Babylonian themes
That’s quite a jump to start at.
I am 99% sure you are larping and uninterested in whether there are any hidden esoteric levels.
If you were then the right place to start is not decoding modern bibles but going back as far as you can to get to the original sources. No easy thing.
Schizophrenic YouTube videos are a waste of time. You need actual scholarly works and your own time.

>>41309694 (OP)
Talk to atheists they know. Bart Erman gets it, he has been blessed by the holy spirit.

>>41309935
Bro, even pagans over time didn't understand what their myths were about, planets/stars, real gods or deified people

That Mercury ann priestes confused everything, you can thank him

If we had the texts on which the Bible was based, we could assume... a bit of Sumerian mythology, a bit of Phoenician and Greek philosophy, reimagined angels. Boaz and Jachin = the Pillars of Hercules-Melkart

The only thing I can tell you about the New Testament is that Revelation is clearly an astrological event.

One more point is noteworthy.
Jesus was condemned by 71 judges of Israel + Judas/the Devil (72/73)
72 demons, led by Seth, conspired against Osiris (73)
Solomon bound 72 demons
Jesus sent 72 disciples
BUT
The Earth's axis of rotation shifts by 1 degree every 72 years, and every 25,920 years, the Earth's axis, rotating at an angle like a spinning top, makes a full 360-degree rotation. This astronomical phenomenon is called precession. Plato called the Earth's 25,920-year rotation a "Great Year."

>>41309935
Wild
Wicked
https://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/ears/soundz/02HOLE/SACRED.wav

>>41309950
Those tales are important coded mysteries, and observable reality is unreliable because it's a byproduct of our limited senses, there is an invisible component to "reality" that our senses can't naturally see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5b0ZxUWNf0&t=51s

>>41309953
You mean Mesopotamian works? I've seen some parallels between Biblical stories and Mesopotamian ones like Noah's Ark and the Epic of Gilgamesh.
>picrel

self bump...

>>41309694 (OP)
Your heart
Wake up and pray every day
Give thanks
Abstain from wasting yourself, from evil
Your third eye will open
You will become enlightened as much as that means
Anyone who is enlightened is still here
But you will imbibe the light of truth
I bet
And all things will be very easy to make
sense or at the least approachable
Keep the sabbath
You orient yourself toward goodness and truth that way
It's kind of like instead of a day you run by a week schedule

Do be warned though when you put away childish things
You become a man with reaponsibility

>>41310007
>Bro, even pagans over time didn't understand what their myths were about, planets/stars, real gods or deified people
Underrated comment. Pagans are weak and delusional sheep. Even worse than Christians who at least have a cohesive identity of some kind.

>>41310058
>there is an invisible component to "reality" that our senses can't naturally see
your mistaken, your eye can see everything thats real and of this earth.

>>41310715
>The first of all, says Sanchuniathon, to write this down, as the god Tauthus (Thoth-Hermes-Mercury) commanded them, were the seven sons of Sydik, abeiri, and their eighth brother, Asclepius. Fabion, the most ancient hierophant of the Phoenicians who ever lived, transmitted all this to the Orgeons and chief interpreters of the mysteries, giving it the form of allegories and mixing it with universal phenomena. They then transmitted it to their successors and to foreigners, striving with all their might to further increase the obscurity of the narrative. Among these latter were Eisirius, the inventor of the three letters, the brother of Hna, who later received another name, Phoenicus.

>The Greeks, surpassing all others in their natural gifts, first absorbed the majority of these traditions, and then recounted them in a rich, artistic language. And, wishing to enchant with the charm of myths, they diversified them in every way. From this, Hesiod and the Cyclics, whose fame resounds everywhere, created their own theogonies, gigantomachies, titanomachies, and castrations, with which, by preoccupying themselves, the Greeks vanquished the truth. Our ears, trained on the works of these poets and assimilating them over many centuries, preserve the artificially invented myths they have absorbed as a pledge, as I mentioned at the outset. Having gained strength from age, these myths, precisely because of this, prevent us from freeing ourselves from their charm, so that truth seems nonsense, and false fables seem true.

Let us say thank you to Thoth, the watchers and the priests (who passed on information orally for so long that after several centuries nothing was understood)

>>41310872
>abeiri
Cabeiri Kabeiroi

fix

>>41309694 (OP)
>Gnostic decoding

Unfortunately those are just approximate constructs made by people outside the apostolic lineage. Initiates of said lineage being the actual inheritors of the mysteries which you would now probably have to worm deep enough into the Vatican to obtain.

>>41309694 (OP)
>Where can i learn the real mysteries of The Bible?
Lots of secrets hidden in many books. There's no one single tradition that has it all.

Jew stuff:
Reading scripture gets a generous reward.
Every passage has some angels assigned to it, and typically a sephiroth correspondence. Easiest way to tap into this is look for Jewish teachings on the Psalm blessings.
Each time you read it, you will feel a stronger connection to the spiritual light charging up your soul with energy. So something like reading Song of Songs on a daily basis will build up enormously powerful energies after doing this for a decade.

Astrotheology:
Yes I think there's some validity to these books. The planets correspond well to the sephiroth, so you can look up Jewish sephiroth correspondences of scripture passages - although with time you may start to feel them on your own, just as a magician might feel the energies when gazing at a sigil.

Swedenborg:
He has many writings on the interpretation of the Bible. His main insight is that the Bible is primarily written in a symbolic spiritual language, rather than being written about material events. So if you do not understand the workings of the spiritual world, reading the Bible won't make any sense on a spiritual level. Although some make the claim that the spiritual understanding slowly slips through and then totally replaces the material understanding after you have studied it for decades. So when pastors and scholars get all nitty gritty about cultural context and linguistics, they have completely and utterly missed the spiritual meaning - because they are acting as materialists towards what is fundamentally a spiritual book.

An example of Swedenborg spiritual correspondences: If a prophet says the sun and moon will be darkened, this doesn't mean there is some apocalyptic scenario going to happen to this world. It means that goodness and truth were darkened when people turned towards evil

>>41309694 (OP)
Rwandan Anglican strip mall church.

>>41310719
Can it see infrared and xrays without any instruments?

>>41310872
So the mysteries were orally transmitted like a bad Telephone Game?

>>41309694 (OP)
>Where can i learn the real mysteries of The Bible?
Everything is explained here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

Alt URL (redirects to the post):

https://www.truth-now.org

From the post:
>And don't be deceived by the fact that the masses aren't talking about this info. In actuality, this info is the most important thing on the planet right now—by far. Nothing else even comes close.

>>41310715
>Roman Catholicism is a cohesive identity
Lmao

https://www.csntm.org/
here you can read old shit

>>41309694 (OP)
You can study authentic kabbalah. The Bible is written in a coded language, and it speaks of forces within a person. Studying hebrew is useful too because the names of characters, which again are forced within a person, can show their deeper meaning. I.E. Moses (Moshe) from the limshok (to pull) meaning pull out of egoism (Egypt is egoism). There's a lot to it if you're interested in it, and ultimately it is internal work

>>41313879
>So the mysteries were orally transmitted like a bad Telephone Game?
Literally every religion
part of the Torah was transmitted orally until it was written down.

the Vedas are exactly the same

>>41317380
I am aware of oral tradtions but have the mysteries ever been written down? I don't think that such ideas could be that perfectly preserved over thousands of years without at least one writing.

Manly P. Hall wrote that there at least Seven different ways that the Bible can be interpreted.

>>41309694 (OP)
>David Wray, gnostic ascent and immortality in early Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgTzv2vyxc

Typology is something you pick up just by engaging with the text.

>>41319889
So you are of the opinion that the Bible is an Astrotheological text?

>>41309694 (OP)
I'll say the same thing that I tell everyone who tries to understand esoteric concepts: live life. Gnosis is experiential knowledge, experience that you only receive through the highs and lows of life. Life itself is da'ath, the knowledge ion good and evil.

>>41321419
Gnosis is knowledge of the self and it's potential, i wouldn't say it's obtained through the highs and lows of life though, there are structured and straightforward methods to develop consciousness like meditation.

One could also argue that Good and Evil are Human creations/concepts and that they don't really exist in the mind of the Creator/Source.

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>>41309694 (OP)
>Initiation , by Elisabeth Haich
https://archive.org/details/ElisabethHaichInitiation/page/n234/mode/1up?q=Epoch
Has some explanation of scriptures sprinkled throughout the book. The chapters "The Four Faces of God" and "The Epochs of the World" have the most mentions
Her other book "Sexual Energy and Yoga explains some of the hidden meanings of scripture. You can find it on Anna's archive.
>The Restored New Testament by James Morgan Pryce
https://archive.org/details/restorednewtesta00prys/page/n10/mode/1up

>>41309694 (OP)
Meister Eckhart, Marsilio Ficino, Jacob Boehme, Emanuel Swedenborg, Louis Claude de Saint-Martin, et al.

>>41309845
One of the funniest parts. The spirit world is incomprehensibly ancient, 6000 years is a joke, truth is it predates even time (which was a creation)

>>41312223
>So something like reading Song of Songs on a daily basis will build up enormously powerful energies after doing this for a decade.
I find what you wrote here interesting. Can you expand on your comment, specifically pertaining to the Song of Songs? I’m just curious as to what makes the Song of Songs so powerful.

>>41310719
My mistaken?

This is not true at all. Do you just say shit thinking no one will call you a dumbass for not understanding it? Cause you're wrong, dumbass.

>>41321419
>Gnosis is experiential knowledge
Wrong.

>>41324441
What works by them in particular could you recommend?

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>>41309694 (OP)
>Where can i learn the real mysteries of The Bible
>veiled metaphor and allegory
>decoding
the way to decode any secrets of revelations from God is to live in accordance with their apparent meanings, whereby deeper meanings are made apparent. Anyone who does this well doesn't normally talk about the allegorical, and if they do it's dishonored as dismissible in contexts like this.

>>41328406
>4:44:44 Synchronicity for me.

Their "apparent meanings" are only Exoteric though, the Esoteric meanings don't exactly make themselves apparent when the Bible is mostly "fantasy" stories of Beasts, Angels and Floods etc...

Also this thread died for some reason, do Anons here realize the Bible is a synthesis of all the mysteries that came before it and that all major secret societies use the Bible to not only plan events but to also illuminate themselves with it's encoded Gnostic teachings?

bump again.

>"It must be an esoteric riddle we're meant to solve for enlightenment!"
>Attempting to solve said riddle causes two millennia of ongoing confusion, narcissism, wars and power struggles resulting in probably billions of senseless deaths and incalculable lost progress by humanity as a whole
>meanwhile the power and wealth of the world mysteriously continues to become more and more consolidated
>"I'm sure it's just a coincidence"

Lmao even

>>41309694 (OP)
Shaar haPesukim from Isaac Luria

>>41330330
The confusion and wars didn't stem for trying to solve the riddle of the Bible but from trying to use it or change it for the benefit of the powers that be, the Bible clearly states that it shouldn't be edited (Revelation 22:18-19) but many Emperors and Rulers throughout history did so for the benefit of themselves and in doing so created a lot of infighting and schisms, each bearing their new interpretation of the Bible that conveniently benefited them.

As for the brutal consolidation of Wealth around the world that isn't a symptom caused by the Bible but rather a symptom of Greed and Emotion from people who haven't learned to conquer their feelings and let go of impermanent illusions.

The "lost progress" wasn't really lost as it was Christians who pioneered many of the modern sciences, even if some of those sciences had esteric origins like Modern Chemistry being born through Alchemy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

>>41331625
But isn't that just a Kabbalistic interpretation of the Bible? Doesn't the Bible contain Babylonian elements that predate the Kabbalistic tradition?

(The Old Testament partially written in Aramaic which was a language adopted by the Babylonian Empire as a lingua franca before the Old Testament was written).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics

The father will contact you only when you are ready and wholely believe in your heart and soul. The answers already lie within you anon God bless, he who seeks will find.

>>41309935
>what i want to see is if there is any unveiled version anywhere
All of Abrahamism was created as a veil. Every collection of christian books was the jew method of synthesis. Read all the historical accounts and books of cultures from the Middle East, and Egypt to understand the events and characters of the Bible.
To understand Genesis, read:
>Enuma Elish - creation of man
>Atra Hasis - the Flood
>Sumerian Kings List
>Epic of Gilgamesh
>Lament for Ur
That will bring you up to the time in Genesis when Abram destroyed his father Terah's clay jars and left Ur of the Chaldeans, and his nephew Lot fleeing the destruction of Sodom. After that, read Egyptian history, then Greek and Roman before the time of Christ.
The characters of the old testament are often renamed historical figures from other cultures.
Modern jews have no historical artifacts, what they claim as their own is usually something from other cultures. This is because Judea was destroyed twice, and Judeans genocided.
Their six pointed star came from Babylon.
Judaism has been a cultural identity for 1950 years, with only a marginal percentage having genetic lineage.
Ashkenzim are descended from turkic Khazars. Even the ancient capital city of the Khazars, the fortress city of Sarkel, is buried under a reservoir. Their history begins when their empire fell and they merged with Kievian Rus and other groups in the Ukraine and Russia. To understand this era, read Solzhenitsyn's 200 Years Together then Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe.

If you want to understand the veil, you need to put on the funny hat, become fluent in hebrew and yiddish, hang out with the jews and read their babylonian talmud, the zohar, and the midrash, torah, and tanakh.
Either way you have years of reading. If you're not a jew, you will never catch up or fully understand their language or their writings, because you will not understand their thought process, and you'll still be their shabbos goy.

>>41309694 (OP)
You learn the mysteries of the Bible from outside the Bible. That's how I did it.

>>41332937
God The Father?

(Exodus 20:8-10) says to keep the Sabbath holy, the word Sabbath came from Shabtai (שַׁבְּתַאי) which is the Hebrew name for the planet Saturn.

God the Father, the Old Man, is Saturn.

>>41332973
>what they claim as their own is usually something from other cultures.
Yes, Revelation also speaks about these Babylonian impostors. (Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9)

>Their six pointed star came from Babylon.
Also from Saturn (Acts 7:43)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remphan

>>41332977
Checked, but where though?
The Astrotheological approach seems to be the most rational.

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>>41309845
>Creating a world = creating a first city
fuck me that makes so much sense, that basically would be your world back then

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>>41333095
>Saturn
So remphan, moloch?

>>41310707
Hmm

>>41314156
This bozrah bullshit

>>41332973
>Read all the official historical accounts
Nope.

>>41335178
Yes, those 2 are just personifications of Saturn.

>>41310719
Like you're inability to use apostrophes correctly. Retard. Sit down and be quiet.

>>41332776
Literally covered with the reformations and alterations mentioned in the meme, your shit tier cult built cathedrals but it obviously doesn't work or it would have finished what it started.

>>41335264
>Capricous Saturn = Bull Moloch
lol, the usual schizzzzzzzzzo

>>41335451
The Cathedrals have Alchemical and Hermetic Mysteries embedded into their Architecture, they aren't just mere stone buildings, they are also Mystery Schools.

>>41335507
The Talisman of Saturn shows The Bull, glow more.
>picrel

>>41335451
>>41337481
cont.
It doesn't work because of the veils, a Christianity closer to it's Astrotheological roots would be more practial and unite people better as the Astrotheologial elements are universal to everyone on earth, every civilization has seen the stars.

However the Bible's roots may not be Astrotheological to because the Masonic King James version says in Luke 17:21 that the Kingdom of God is Within You and Michelangelo's paintings at the Sistine Chapel supposedly show God within the Brain.
>picrel

>>41337481
Saturn isn't a bull deity, he's a Goat deity..
There is no Bull of Capricorn, you larpy spastic; Capricorns can't personify that form..
Anyone using it has union with a Taurus deity personifying a Demonic Ascension Form enjoying debauchery, and becomes a Morning-star thru exaltation.
The seal of Saturn looks nothing like that.

>>41337584
The Bull image of Moloch comes from the Solar Apis, Capricorn comes from the Capricornus Constellation and is a sign ruled by Saturn, not Saturn himself.

In ancient Greek, the planet Saturn was known as Phainon (Φαίνων - meaning shining or bright) and in Roman times it was known as the "Star of Saturn" or the "Star of The Sun" (i.e. Helios).

According to an ancient historian named Diodorus Siculus, a group of people in the Babylonian region referred to the actual planet Saturn as Helios (The Sun), because it was "the most conspicuous of the stars."

When we look at Saturn in mythology we can see that he rides a chariot like Helios/Hyperion, but instead of having his chariot being pulled by horses he has it being pulled by dragons, which further shows how Saturn was once the Sun and how he "fell" from his position, becoming a dark and mirrored version of his previous self, a Sol Niger to the Sol Invictus (A Black Sun to the Normal Sun, a Fallen Sun).
>picrel

>The seal of Saturn looks nothing like that.
That's not the Seal of Saturn it's the Talisman of Saturn, i know about the seal you speak of.

>>41309845
makes you wonder what Christians and Muslims are actually worshiping. Also, why worship to begin with?

>>41310007
3i Atlas is a celestial event that they're trying to cover up and explain away as "aliens". No doubt ETs including benevolent and malevolent ones exist but they'll reveal themselves on their own terms. I also still believe aliens are going to reveal themselves to us for another year or so but that's just me.

>>41337871
That's the stupidest shit I've read this week.

Capricorns personifying a sexually debaucherous ascension form are Goats..
Capricorns can't manifest a Bull Form.

-Devil
-Pan
-Ea
-Dionysus
-Azazel
-Baphomet
-Satyrs

There are no exception to that; you have not found some miraculous exception to the rule, you're just another schizo in the long line of chinese whispering dumbshit peasants .

>Essential Dignities
Saturn detriments Cancer, exalts Gemini, Falls Sagittarius.
Capricorn is Cardinal Earth, the Physical World Plain itself extending up to the mountain peaks, and when in Sacred-union with a Gemini he sojourns the Mid Heavens Above via their Gemini union..
Gemini is Capricorns Wings; He's exalted, not fallen..

The Sun is Sol, not Saturn.
Anyone can union with a Leo and inherit a Sun-Deity's properties thru sacred-union exaltation; the same way Jesus unioned with Lucifer to become a Morning Star..
That's why Gods form GodHeads with union participants,.
Both Gemini, and Leo are 150° Yod Capricorn
Any Capricorn can forms that Yod union, termed "the finger of God".

Like I said, just another schizo in the long line of chinese whispering dumbshit peasants .

>>41337877
>Also, why worship to begin with?
Ancient civilizations were Agrarian in nature and depended on celestial movements to track the seasons and plant crops to live off of, in ancient times Astrology and Astronomy were taught as the same thing.

They also didn't know about Planetary Orbits back then and called the Planets Wanderers because they thought the Planets were alive and moved on their own through the sky.

They saw how specific seasons/floods/climates only happened when certain Celestial Bodies were in the sky hence they though said events were caused by those particular Celestial Bodies.

Our Earth also has it's own pulse with the Schumann Resonance so it's also possible that the Planets may be alive with their own "heartbeat" as the ancients believed, and if i remember correctly the Corpus Hermeticum might've said something about the Planets being "Ministers" of God within the Cosmos that rule certain aspect, i'm not sure on this though.

And because of all this they worshipped the Celestial Bodies as Saviours or Destroyers.

>>41337871
That's the stupidest shit I've read this week.

Capricorns personifying a sexually debaucherous ascension form are Goats..
Capricorns can't manifest a Bull Form.

-Devil
-Pan
-Ea
-Dionysus
-Azazel
-Baphomet
-Satyrs

There are no exception to that; you have not found some miraculous exception to the rule, you're just another schizo in the long line of chinese whispering dumbshit peasants .

Mercury is the Repilian Species..
Virgo is Dragon
Gemini is Snake (rider of the Dragon)
>Essential Dignities
Saturn detriments Cancer, exalts Gemini, Falls Sagittarius.
Capricorn is Cardinal Earth, the Physical World Plain itself extending up to the mountain peaks, and when in Sacred-union with a Gemini he sojourns the Mid Heavens Above via their Gemini union..
Gemini is Capricorns Wings; He's exalted, not fallen..

The Sun is Sol, not Saturn.
Anyone can union with a Leo and inherit a Sun-Deity's properties thru sacred-union exaltation; the same way Jesus unioned with Lucifer to become a Morning Star..
That's why Gods form GodHeads with union participants,.
Both Gemini, and Leo are 150° Yod Capricorn
Any Capricorn can form that Yod union, termed "the finger of God". (look it up, idiot)

Like I said, just another schizo in the long line of chinese whispering dumbshit peasants .

>>41338120
>>41338170
>That's the stupidest shit I've read this week.
Not a counterargument, you can verify the information on this post >>41337871 yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKnCZFSYeZ0

Celestial positions were different thousands of years ago and Saturn was the Sun, our current "Sol" hijacked his position later.

The Capricornus Constellation was associated with the Goat becuse it "climbs" the sky, particularly for Northern Hemisphere observers, as the Sun reaches its lowest point in the sky and begins to appear to ascend again after the Winter Solstice. This is why the constellation's name, meaning "Horned Goat," was associated with a climbing animal and the Sun's apparent upward motion.

Baphomet is not a Goat, it's a Hebridean Sheep, have you ever heard about the Black Sheep in the family? Pan and the Satyrs are Goats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_sheep
>picrel

You just spit out word salads and insults...

>>41338453
>I'll double down with schizo videos
I bet your the schizo who uploaded it.
>The Capricornus Constellation was associated with the Goat becuse it "climbs" the sky, particularly for Northern Hemisphere observers, as the Sun reaches its lowest point in the sky and begins to appear to ascend again after the Winter Solstice. This is why the constellation's name, meaning "Horned Goat," was associated with a climbing animal and the Sun's apparent upward motion.
So?
Capricorn is at the years start.. obviously the Sun will begin to rise upwards after the Winter Solstice..
Did you think the Sun would suddenly do something different?

Astrology was created by the Ancients..
Every single book was burned during the dark ages and Astrology only survived via a few books that were secretly hidden away preserved.

Everything you claim to know about astrology is not inherited from those who both pioneered and developed it.

Saturn was NEVER the fucking Sun, you need to go make an appointment a mental health expert.

Its saddening you don't know the difference between a Goat and a sheep, there actually two different genetic species.. And Capricorn is not nor has ever been a fucking sheep.

There is no Bulls of Capricorn, just Goats.
Nobody is interested in your schizzo video.

>>41338453
cont.
Later Groups and Mystery Schools associated the Goat with deities like Pan and the Satyrs due to the Goat's sexual nature yes, but the Black Sheep of a society is the outcast, much like Satan was the original outcast from heaven.

>>41338543
No....
the only Mystery here is how big a fruit cake you are.

>>41338453
Baphomet is an androgynous, goat‑headed, winged humanoid—often called the “Sabbatic Goat”

>>41338541
>I bet your the schizo who uploaded it.
Actually no, those videos have been around for literally a decade.

>Astrology was created by the Ancients..
The Mesopotamians in particular.

>Every single book was burned during the dark ages and Astrology only survived via a few books that were secretly hidden away preserved.
The same ones who burned the books copied everything through scribes before they did so, nothing was "lost", just stolen to retain their power.

>Saturn was NEVER the fucking Sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXggbZqpSig

>And Capricorn is not nor has ever been a fucking sheep.
Never said Capricorn was a Sheep, just the Baphomet, the modern image of the Baphomet you have today is an Alchemical Composite created by Eliphas Levi based on much earlier mysteries.

Your vulgar insults/wording and seething at these facts shows an inability to maintain a healthy debate, you just type enormous word salads and i have not insulted you like you do. Why do i even bother?

Like what even is this disorganized photo collage here >>41338170 ?

>>41338563
Projection.

>>41338678
>Sabbatic Goat
Do you know what Sabbatic means?
See >>41333095

Also keep in mind how Satanism is about Inversion, the Black Sheep is an inversion of the Biblical Lamb of God.
>picrel

>>41338729
>Actually no, those videos have been around for literally a decade.
lol, You've been uploading that schizo shit for a decade!!!.
>The Mesopotamians in particular.
Yes the Ancients, pre-book burning.
>The same ones who burned the books copied everything through scribes before they did so, nothing was "lost", just stolen to retain their power.
Yes, Capricorn already associated with goats by the Ancients, pre dark ages.
Yes, Back when humans knew a thing and could do stuff with it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXggbZqpSig [Embed]
Another scizzo video you uploaded.
>Never said Capricorn was a Sheep, just the Baphomet, the modern image of the Baphomet you have today is an Alchemical Composite created by Eliphas Levi based on much earlier mysteries.
Baphomet is an androgynous, goat‑headed, winged humanoid—often called the “Sabbatic Goat”
Baphomet has never been a sheep.
>Your vulgar insults/wording and seething at these facts shows an inability to maintain a healthy debate, you just type enormous word salads and i have not insulted you like you do. Why do i even bother?
Your videos are pure schizophrenia..
The insulting evidence you provide deserves my urgent mental health intervention recommendations..
>Like what even is this disorganized photo collage here >>41338170 (You) ?
A lot more straightforward than your babbling idiot videos.
>>Sabbatic Goat
>Do you know what Sabbatic means?
>See >>41333095
connects Sabbatic to Saturn.. sure hence the Sabbatical Goat thus Capricorn.
Yes, irrelevant if you think that turns a goat into a sheep.
>Also keep in mind how Satanism is about Inversion, the Black Sheep is an inversion of the Biblical Lamb of God.
Who the fuck is even talking about Satan?

knowledge of God is God...

If you're knowledge of God doesn't enable you to become God, then it isn't knowledge of God....it's just faggotty English Literature tards play acting as religious zealots sucking on dick verbal word salad diarrhea virtue signalling .

The need is to analyse deity in a more scientifically engineered manner expressing the mechanics of becoming God.

>>41338982
>Yes, Capricorn already associated with goats by the Ancients, pre dark ages.
>Yes, Back when humans knew a thing and could do stuff with it.
Gods and mythic figures associated with Capricorn before the Dark Ages

Enki / Ea (Mesopotamia) — The earliest and best‑attested association: the fishtailed‑goat (sea‑goat) motif linked with Enki/ Ea appears in Bronze‑Age Mesopotamian iconography and is the direct ancestor of the later Babylonian identification of the goat‑fish constellation that became Capricorn (second millennium BCE onward).

Pan (Greek, Hellenistic associations) — In Hellenistic and later Greek interpretive tradition Pan, a horned rustic god, was sometimes syncretized with the sea‑goat motif and turned into a proto‑Capricornal figure in mythic retellings that sought to link Greek gods to the zodiac (Hellenistic period, from roughly the 3rd century BCE).

Amalthea / goat‑nurse figures (Greek mythic precursors) — Mythic goat figures such as Amalthea (the nurturing goat of Zeus) and various goat‑personifications provided symbolic material later authors and astrologers used when mapping goat imagery onto Capricorn; these appear in Archaic and Classical Greek myth but are not a formal astral identification until Hellenistic reinterpretation.

Local Near Eastern goat/sea‑hybrid cult images and divine epithets — Various Bronze‑ and Iron‑Age Near Eastern seals and cult images show caprine or caprine‑aquatic hybrids connected to local water, fertility, or protective deities; these visual motifs fed into the Mesopotamian sea‑goat constellation genealogy but do not represent a single, clearly named alternative god widely identified as “Capricorn” before the classical era.

>>41338982
>schizophrenia
Does not exist and is a derogatory term usually employed by shils. "Schizophrenics" in ancient times were employed as Oracles and Shamans.

>Baphomet is an androgynous, goat‑headed, winged humanoid—often called the “Sabbatic Goat”.
Called the Sabbatic Goat by Eliphas Levi as a conflation of his, Syncretism is nothing new.

If the Baphomet is Capricorn as you say then were are the aquatic aspects in Baphomet? Capricorn has a fish tail.

>A lot more straightforward than your babbling idiot videos.
Not my videos, again, and the videos provide literary sources for the shown text that you can check by yourself.

>connects Sabbatic to Saturn, sure hence the Sabbatical Goat thus Capricorn.
Later Syncretism, it exists, doesn't mean it's the original mystery though.

The Black Sheep is the Outcast, Satan/Saturn that was Cast Out of his original position as the Sun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxLBjBosT20

>Who the fuck is even talking about Satan?
Satanism, Saturnism, same thing.

>>41339120
What is your definition of God?

>>41339213
>Gods and mythic figures associated with Capricorn before the Dark Ages.

>Enki
Planet Mercury

>Pan
Shitty Copy of Cernunnos, whose name is rooted in the word Kern/Cern like Kronos, Coronate, Chronosphere or the Ancient Hebrew Karan (קרן) which means to shine, like the Sun Saturn did in ancient times.

It's also a word for Horn because Suns have Horns like picrel.

The Latin for Horn is also Cornu.

>>41339512
>Called the Sabbatic Goat by Eliphas Levi as a conflation of his, Syncretism is nothing new.
>Later Syncretism, it exists, doesn't mean it's the original mystery though.
Yet never the less never been anything except a Sabbatical Goat..
Your Sheep never got a mention.
>If the Baphomet is Capricorn as you say then were are the aquatic aspects in Baphomet? Capricorn has a fish tail.
Ea is the cause of Fish Tail representation..
Its from the Enki/Ea carry on... the tail is Enlil/Ea half.
Ea is a dyad.
Ea was used by the Babylonians to represent the Capricorn Goat because they didn't give a rats arse about any of the other Goat goats.
Capricorn is Goat, hence why every other Goat God >>41339213 doesn't have a fish tail.
>Not my videos, again, and the videos provide literary sources for the shown text that you can check by yourself.
You crackpots need to stop this rubbish.
Saturn is El...
Saturn is Yahweh..
Saturn is Elohim
Saturn is Moloch..
Saturn is Devil..
Saturn is Satan...
Saturn is Lucifer..
Saturn is Baal..
Saturn is every fucking God to ever exist...

you really need to talk to a psychologist

>Satanism, Saturnism, same thing.
Saturn isn't Satan.
Satan is a deity of Sheol, the Waters of the Underworld (Scorpio)..
Saturn is the Cardinal Earth.
Cardinal Earth is Earth, not Sheol.
>The Black Sheep is the Outcast, Satan/Saturn that was Cast Out of his original position as the Sun.
Saturn was never Sun, he's always been Saturn.
Sol has always been Sun (like Ra, Helios, etc)
Saturn in sacred union with a Leo allows him a Sun God's properties thru union exaltation;
If he ended his association with that Leo, then he can no longer reside on the Sun Plain as a Sun Deity and loses the "Most High" title.
Big deal if he got tossed down, he's still Saturn the Cardinal Earth and always has been.
>What is your definition of God?
a God is an Ascended-being.. whether it be in a Divine Form, Debaucherous Form, Satanic Form, Demonic Form, or Abomination Form.

>>41339512
>Shitty Copy of Cernunnos, whose name is rooted in the word Kern/Cern like Kronos, Coronate, Chronosphere or the Ancient Hebrew Karan (קרן) which means to shine, like the Sun Saturn did in ancient times.
psychosis carry on...
starts with a Celtic God Cernunnos....
eventually gets to Kronos, another well known Capricorn.
Then he must turn that Kronos to Cronosphere... cause you know, the sun, right?
BUT Cronosphere is a word made in the late 20th century..
lmao... idiot mixed it up with the word Chromosphere...
Chromosphere time manipulation as in Saturn Father Time.

>It's also a word for Horn AD
Goats have horns..
>because Suns have Horns like picrel.
>The Latin for Horn is also Cornu.
No one cares about your gay pic.

>>41339512
>Shitty Copy of Cernunnos, whose name is rooted in the word Kern/Cern like Kronos, Coronate, Chronosphere or the Ancient Hebrew Karan (קרן) which means to shine, like the Sun Saturn did in ancient times.
psychosis carry on...
starts with a Celtic God Cernunnos....
eventually gets to Kronos, another well known Capricorn.
Then he must turn that Kronos to Cronosphere... cause you know, the sun, right?
BUT Cronosphere is a word made in the late 20th century..

lmao... idiot mixed it up.. he wanted it to be the word Chromosphere for the layer of the Sun’s atmosphere located above the photosphere and below the transition region and corona

But.. he had the word Chronosphere, as in time manipulation as in Saturn Father Time.

>It's also a word for Horn AD
Goats have horns..
>because Suns have Horns like picrel.
>The Latin for Horn is also Cornu.
No one cares about your gay pic.

>>41339762
>Your Sheep never got a mention.
Not in Levi's work no, look a century earlier.

>Ea is the cause of Fish Tail representation..
Ea is the Planet Neptune.
Enki is the Planet Mercury.
However they are conflated as one in the same a lot of times.

Capricorn is associated with Ea but is not Ea.

Neptune in mythology isn't necessarily a fish but is associated with the Sea.

>Saturn is every fucking God to ever exist...
Every God? No, but the Hidden God, the cosmic Lord of the Rings whose One Ring rules them all.

>Saturn isn't Satan.
The word Satan comes from the Hebrew Ha-Satan (הא-שטן) which means The Adversary, as a currently Cold Deity Saturn/Satan opposes the Warm invasive Sol (Jesus).

There are 7 Classical Planets and Saturn was the most distant visible one (before Uranus) hence considered the coldest one.

Dante also depicted Satan in a Lake of Ice.
>picrel

Sheol is the realm of Saturn because he is a Cthonic Deity, Sheol means Underworld in Hebrew and the term Cthonic is related.

>Saturn was never Sun, he's always been Saturn.
Ancient accounts say otherwise.

>>41340044
>>41340107
>BUT Cronosphere is a word made in the late 20th century..
Just gave an example of a modern word that uses the Kern/Cern, wasn't saying it was period accurate.

>lmao... idiot mixed it up with the word Chromosphere...
I didn't, didn't even want to mention Chromosphere...

>Goats have horns..
So Do Sheep.

>No one cares about your gay pic.
I can also say the same about you lmao.

>>41339762
cont.
>a God is an Ascended-being..
That is a Demigod.

Ascended does not equal all powerful.
Also ascended where?

>>41340176
>Not in Levi's work no, look a century earlier.
No sheep there, neither.
>Ea is the Planet Neptune.
No, he ain't.
They put him in Capricorn, not Pisces.
He is Saturn, not Neptune.
>Enki is the Planet Mercury.
No, he ain't.
>However they are conflated as one in the same a lot of times.
>Capricorn is associated with Ea but is not Ea.
Ea is a dyad.
>Neptune in mythology isn't necessarily a fish but is associated with the Sea.
Goody for him.
>Every God? No, but the Hidden God, the cosmic Lord of the Rings whose One Ring rules them all.
Rules them all?
ohhhhh, So Saturn isn't any of those, he just Rules over them...
Saturn rules over El...
Saturn rules over Yahweh..
Saturn rules over Elohim
Saturn rules over Moloch..
Saturn rules over Devil..
Saturn rules over Satan...
Saturn rules over Lucifer..
Saturn rules over Baal..
Saturn rules over every fucking God to ever exist...
Sure ok,. whatever.
>The word Satan comes from the Hebrew Ha-Satan (הא-שטן) which means The Adversary,
starts off some simple Hebrew....
>as a currently Cold Deity Saturn/Satan opposes the Warm invasive Sol (Jesus).
then straight into the schizzo lore..

>>41340176
>There are 7 Classical Planets and Saturn was the most distant visible one (before Uranus) hence considered the coldest one.
Yeh Saturn's cold, ey.
>Dante also depicted Satan in a Lake of Ice.
Then Saturn can't be Satan cause its too cold..
>>picrel
>Sheol is the realm of Saturn because he is a Cthonic Deity, Sheol means Underworld in Hebrew and the term Cthonic is related.
The Earth and Sheol are two entirely different realms, made of entirely different materials..
Cardinal Earth Saturn is Earth, and Fixed Water Satan is Sheol.
>>Saturn was never Sun, he's always been Saturn.
>Ancient accounts say otherwise.
Yes, he once unioned a Leo, then they had a relationship break up.
>Just gave an example of a modern word that uses the Kern/Cern, wasn't saying it was period accurate.
AND if it was Ken/Cen, I'd give a fuck
>I didn't, didn't even want to mention Chromosphere...
yeh, wouldn't have helped the whole Kronos God to light then Sun bullshit.
>So Do Sheep.
But Baphomet was never a sheep.
>>41340261
>That is a Demigod.
All Gods are Ascended Beings, whether Gods or DemiGods.
>Ascended does not equal all powerful.
Derrrrrrrrrrrr award to you.
>Also ascended where?
A higher plain of existence (or Lower).
in Heaven, or Sheol, or the Sun Plain, or Hell, or whatever domain they are indigenous to.
As in NOT here on this physical Earth, on this basket weaving forum.

>>41340176
>There are 7 Classical Planets and Saturn was the most distant visible one (before Uranus) hence considered the coldest one.
Yeh Saturn's cold, ey.
>Dante also depicted Satan in a Lake of Ice.
Then Saturn can't be Satan cause its too cold..
>>picrel
>Sheol is the realm of Saturn because he is a Cthonic Deity, Sheol means Underworld in Hebrew and the term Cthonic is related.
The Earth and Sheol are two entirely different realms, made of entirely different materials..
Cardinal Earth Saturn is Earth, and Fixed Water Satan is Sheol.
>>Saturn was never Sun, he's always been Saturn.
>Ancient accounts say otherwise.
Yes, he once unioned a Leo, then they had a relationship break up.
>Just gave an example of a modern word that uses the Kern/Cern, wasn't saying it was period accurate.
AND if it was Ken/Cen, I'd give a fuck
>I didn't, didn't even want to mention Chromosphere...
yeh, wouldn't have helped the whole Kronos God to light then Sun bullshit.
>So Do Sheep.
But Baphomet was never a sheep.
>>41340261
>That is a Demigod.
All Gods are Ascended Beings,
Ascension is laying down your life to take on a new form.
Ascension is power over the physical.
DemiGods are Ascended Being if they can transfigure (Example, how Jesus transfigured into his morning star ascension form in front of his disciples).
>Ascended does not equal all powerful.
Derrrrrrrrrrrr award to you.
>Also ascended where?
A higher plain of existence (or Lower).
in Heaven, or Sheol, or the Sun Plain, or Hell, or whatever domain they are indigenous to.
As in NOT here on this physical Earth, on this basket weaving forum.

>>41340353
>No sheep there, neither.
I can tell you didn't look.

>He is Saturn, not Neptune.
Saturn is Ninurta
Ea is related to Capricorn, but not it.

>The planet Mercury, associated with Babylonian Nabu (the son of Marduk) was, in Sumerian times, identified with Enki.
Identified, not associated.

>ohhhhh, So Saturn isn't any of those, he just Rules over them...
The Gods are Celestial Bodies, Saturn is the Guardian of the Threshold or Limit in Classic Cosmology, he is quite literally the Overseer of them all before the higher ineffable orders of existence.
>picrel

Most of the names you listed are just personifications of Saturn.

>then straight into the schizzo lore..
Cold and Hot are polar opposites by nature, it's just fact. "Fire and Ice" so to speak.

>Then Saturn can't be Satan cause its too cold..
Satan is cold because Hell is cold, even in other mythologies like Norse Mythology they have a cold underworld named Helheim (like hell), all ancient religions/myths speak of the same or extremely similar things because they all watched the skies.

>The Earth and Sheol are two entirely different realms
They are not, Sheol just means Underworld (underside of Earth), you know, like the Land Down Under.

>All Gods are Ascended Beings, whether Gods or DemiGods.
Can we say that for sure? Did the first creator of the Cosmos ascend from somewhere before? It's possible but not guaranteed, one could argue that he technically ascended from the Abyss/Primordial Ocean/Darkness.

>A higher plain of existence (or Lower).
If lower then that's Descent not Ascent

Theres arbitrary interpretations of the text.
Theres definitely some astrotheology in there, but astrology is unreliable for predicting future.

We now know the planets arent actually gods w intelligences. Cant really ask saturn or the sun what their opinions on politics are.

My theory of the light/fire connection: the ancients did not have any source of light in the past other than fire, the sun, moon, and stars. Thus they could only describe mystical metaphors of light using fire.
>shining *like* bronze in a fire
>all consuming fire etc etc

Newer metaphoric deity descriptions dont require fire metaphors, but are more abstract
>love + light
>the abyss
Multiple meanings. It refers to the primordial ocean from which life came, as well as alleged formless realm before earth.

Saturn isnt Satan. Saturn was an agricultural deity associated w seasonal changes and the harvest. Satan was associated w war, chaos, and the israelites historical enemies. Derives from Zoastrian dualism, ahriman. Satan is still considered to be subservient to the Almighty. Its a confused topic and satan/le devil gets labeled on all kinds of harmless entities.

Be kind to each other.
Pls stop fight over ritual practice. Rituals not necessary, ritual objects neither help nor harm.

>>41341255
Also lol.

Also, language only imperfectly describes reality which is the source of so many of these pointless theological debates...

>>41341263
Be kind to each other. No fear. Many religions...rituals...too complicated.

>>41340562
>Saturn is the Guardian of the Threshold or Limit in Classic Cosmology, he is quite literally the Overseer of them all before the higher ineffable orders of existence.

And now we know saturn is a gas giant planet and probes have been sent far past saturn. Unless u r schizo flerfer...

Don't listen to this midwit redditor

Keep fighting! who has the greater esoteric understanding?

>>41340562
>I can tell you didn't look.
Yes, I looked and there was no sheep.
Hence why your bluffing it.
>Ea is related to Capricorn, but not it.
Ea is a dyad being between Capricorn and Pisces.
Hence my previously stating Ea is a dyad between Enki and Enlil.
>The planet Mercury, associated with Babylonian Nabu (the son of Marduk) was, in Sumerian times, identified with Enki.
>Identified, not associated.
City of Babylon itself is on Cardinal Earth, its not a separately located elemental domain.
the God of Babylon is Ea.
Ea was used as a representative example of a Capricorn deity domiciled in Saturn,
Mercury is of Reptilian Deity, not Goat
Ea isn't Mercurial Reptilian.
Your schizzo video evidence is as bullshit as you.
>The Gods are Celestial Bodies, Saturn is the Guardian of the Threshold or Limit in Classic Cosmology, he is quite literally the Overseer of them all before the higher ineffable orders of existence.
Yes, he isn't isn't any of those, he just Rules over them.
You already said that.
>Most of the names you listed are just personifications of Saturn.
No, Saturn is their Overseer..
Just like you already said.
>Cold and Hot are polar opposites by nature, it's just fact. "Fire and Ice" so to speak.
>Satan is cold because Hell is cold, even in other mythologies like Norse Mythology they have a cold underworld named Helheim (like hell), all ancient religions/myths speak of the same or extremely similar things because they all watched the skies.
Sheol is not Hell, two separate locations.
>They are not, Sheol just means Underworld (underside of Earth), you know, like the Land Down Under.
Sheol is not made of Cardinal Earth, nor in Cardinal Earth domain.
If you dig down to where Sheol is superimposed.. You won't see or touch it.. It isn't in phase with Cardinal Earth Is an entirely different domain.

>>41340562
>>All Gods are Ascended Beings, whether Gods or DemiGods.
>Can we say that for sure?
Yes, mortals don't have power over the physical.
>Did the first creator of the Cosmos ascend from somewhere before? It's possible but not guaranteed, one could argue that he technically ascended from the Abyss/Primordial Ocean/Darkness.
Where they came from isn't of this discussion.
Too long for me to give a fuck and open yet another can of worms.

>>41341255
you need to be in union with a Leo (Sun Deity) to have his property of DAYLIGHT when Above the Horizon of Eternity..

You need to be in Union with a Taurus (Morning Star) to have his property of illumination when Below the Horizon of Eternity.

>>41340562
>I can tell you didn't look.
Yes, I looked and there was no sheep.
Hence why your bluffing it.
>Ea is related to Capricorn, but not it.
Ea is a dyad being between Capricorn and Pisces deities.
Hence my previously stating Ea is a dyad between Enki and Enlil.
>The planet Mercury, associated with Babylonian Nabu (the son of Marduk) was, in Sumerian times, identified with Enki.
>Identified, not associated.
City of Babylon itself is on Cardinal Earth, its not a separately located elemental domain.
the God of Babylon is Ea.
Ea was used as a representative example of a Capricorn deity domiciled in Saturn,
Mercury is of Reptilian Deity, not Goat
Ea isn't Mercurial Reptilian.
Snake body characteristics is Gemini..
Dragon body characteristics is Virgo.
Your schizzo rambling video evidence is as bullshit as you.
>The Gods are Celestial Bodies, Saturn is the Guardian of the Threshold or Limit in Classic Cosmology, he is quite literally the Overseer of them all before the higher ineffable orders of existence.
Yes, he isn't any of those, he just Rules over them.
You already said that.
>Most of the names you listed are just personifications of Saturn.
No, Saturn is their Overseer..
Just like you already said.
>Cold and Hot are polar opposites by nature, it's just fact. "Fire and Ice" so to speak.
>Satan is cold because Hell is cold, even in other mythologies like Norse Mythology they have a cold underworld named Helheim (like hell), all ancient religions/myths speak of the same or extremely similar things because they all watched the skies.
Sheol is not Hell, two separate locations.
>They are not, Sheol just means Underworld (underside of Earth), you know, like the Land Down Under.
Sheol is not made of Cardinal Earth, nor in Cardinal Earth domain.
If you dig down to where Sheol is superimposed.. You won't see or touch it.. It isn't in phase with Cardinal Earth Is an entirely different domain made from an entirely different elemental material.

>>41341255
>My theory of the light/fire connection: the ancients did not have any source of light in the past other than fire, the sun, moon, and stars. Thus they could only describe mystical metaphors of light using fire.
You need to be in union with a Leo (Sun Deity) to have his property of DAYLIGHT when Above the Horizon of Eternity..

You need to be in Union with a Taurus (Morning Star) to have his property of illumination when Below the Horizon of Eternity.

Deity themselves are illuminated..

Revelation 21:23
The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

>>41341516
Who is the midwit Redditor?

>>41341283
>And now we know saturn is a gas giant planet and probes have been sent far past saturn.
And those probes just proved Saturn's power and weirdness even further, why do you think his Rings are named like Piano Keys? (A,B,C,D,E,F,G)

>>41341992
>Hence why your bluffing it.
If i give a hint it becomes instantly obvious so i want to see if you can get there on your own without spoonfeeding you, an Oxford Dictionary knows i will add...

>Ea is a dyad being between Capricorn and Pisces.
He was identified with the Star Canopus in Sumerian times.

>City of Babylon itself is on Cardinal Earth, its not a separately located elemental domain.
Lolwut? Babylon was located in Iraq and it's Royal Descendants continue to rule to this day.

>Mercury is of Reptilian Deity, not Goat
>Mentions Reptillians
>Calls Me The Schizo

>Yes, he isn't isn't any of those, he just Rules over them.
He is though, Saturn is also known as a God of 1000 names and many of the names you listed are just personifications of him throughout time.

With the earliest you listed being El and the latest being Satan.

The oral tradition telephone game between cultures and traditions also hasn't been helpful.

Saturn also had a different position thousands of years ago that earned him the Solar title.

>Sheol is not Hell, two separate locations.
Never said Sheol was Hell (we are already in Hell), but Saturn rules both sides of the same coin, he is Yahweh and Satan, the dichotomies are an illusion.
>picrel

The Masonic King James Bible also says Satan (Saturn) is the God of this world (2 corinthians 4:4).

And as stated here >>41333095 God asks to keep the Sabbath (Saturn's Day) holy, because it's his day to.

>Yes, mortals don't have power over the physical.
Human destruction and domination of the environment says otherwise, and with the possibility of Quantum Immortality who says we are truly mortal? We may not be...

>>41309694 (OP)
You could, Idk, just read it.

I recommend the ESV and the KJV if you are literate enough.

>>41342222
Op here and Checked.

I prefer the KJV version however i have a zoomer attention span.

>>41342222
Op here and Checked.

I prefer the KJV however i have a zoomer attention span.

>>41342178
>If i give a hint it becomes instantly obvious so i want to see if you can get there on your own without spoonfeeding you, an Oxford Dictionary knows i will add...
Oh, delusions..
gotch ya..
>Lolwut? Babylon was located in Iraq and it's Royal Descendants continue to rule to this day.
This physical Universe of physical matter is the Cardinal Earth Kingdom..
Meaning the city of Babylon is on this physical Earth, not somewhere in Sheol, nor on the Sun Plain, nor in Heaven..
>>Calls Me The Schizo
Yes, mercury species have reptilian forms..
Capricorn deity have Goat forms
Taurus have Bull forms..
Aries forms have Ram forms.
That's why there is no Bull of Capricorn, that only exists in your schizophrenia.
AND its why your bullshit is bullshit.
Divinity Engineering follows Rules, its not the made up inconsistent nutcase rubbish you peddle.
>He is though, Saturn is also known as a God of 1000 names and many of the names you listed are just personifications of him throughout time.
>With the earliest you listed being El and the latest being Satan.
Saturn isn't El, nor is Saturn Satan..
Not the product of Divine utterance from an ascended-being thru the mouth of a Holy man and written down.. Not from Holy Text written word that is a living word with the power to bring it self to pass.
That is authortative.. the schizo shit you follow is from the chinese whispers of dumbshit peasants.
El is El, Satan is Satan..
the Bible doesn't get the 2 confused, as you evidently do.
>The oral tradition telephone game between cultures and traditions also hasn't been helpful.
Yes, dumbshit peasants I spoke of.
>Saturn also had a different position thousands of years ago that earned him the Solar title.
Union with a Leo got him the Solar Deity properties, same way Jesus got the Morning Star properties by union with Lucifer.
Jesus is not Lucifer as El is not Satan because El is not Saturn.

>>41342331
>Oh, delusions..
>gotch ya..
Matthew 7:6

>Meaning the city of Babylon is on this physical Earth
All Major Governments are part of Babylon now, the symbols don't lie.

>Saturn isn't El
>Bruh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)#:~:text=%22El%22%20(Father%20of%20Heaven,bull%20horns%20on%20their%20headdresses.

>Divinity Engineering
>That is authortative..
Do you mean Divine Engineering? And if not then how exactly does one Engineer Divinity?

>the Bible doesn't get the 2 confused, as you evidently do.
The Bible Has Layers, and it's quite self contradictory many times.

For example Ephesians 5:1 says to be like God, but then Deuteronomy 20:16–17 shows God is a mass murderer. Doesn't make much sense now does it? What happened to thou shalt not kill?

>Yes, dumbshit peasants I spoke of.
>Calling others dumbshit peasants
You are not above them bro.

>Union with a Leo got him the Solar Deity properties
Wrong, the current Sol is made out of hot burning gasses (Hydrogen and Helium), Saturn is made out of cool gasses (Also Hydrogen and Helium), he was a burning hot Sol in ancient times that eventually cooled down after being displaced astronomically.

It's not that hard to comprehend.

>Jesus is not Lucifer
He is though, and he admits it himself in Revelation 22:16

Also curious detail, why does the Bible forbid long hair for men yet Jesus has it? Could it be that he has a feminine Venusian Morning Star aspect like a Rebis?
1 Corinthians 11:14-15

He also says "As Above so Below" like the Baphomet points.
Matthew 6:10

>>41342471
>Matthew 7:6
Nice cope
>>41342471
>All Major Governments are part of Babylon now, the symbols don't lie.
of which is on Earth, the Cardinal Earth physical plain.
>Do you mean Divine Engineering? And if not then how exactly does one Engineer Divinity?
Do what the gods do..
Knowledge of God is God..
If you're knowledge of God doesn't enable you to become God, then it isn't knowledge of God....it's just faggotty English Literature tards play acting as religious zealots sucking on dick verbal word salad diarrhea virtue signalling .

Do wjhat the Gods have done.
>>41342178
>The Masonic King James Bible also says Satan (Saturn) is the God of this world (2 corinthians 4:4).
Bible wasn't given to humans in English.
Tardy human translations are irrelevant.
Pluto detriments Taurus, Exalts Capricorn, Falls Cancer.
Death, decay, decomposition rules over this physical plain.
Satan (Scorpio) rules here.
>And as stated here >>41333095 God asks to keep the Sabbath (Saturn's Day) holy, because it's his day to.
Yes, Yahweh has a hard on for Saturn.. He was an attempt to make an Adamic species.. but Sophia didn't have a template of Geradama and made an abortion..
Yahweh is why Ophiuchus got crammed into the galactic plain, overlapping Capricorn constellation because its not the same but is similar.
Thats why he was obsessed at creating sons-of-Adam and Daughters-of-Eve, then continued obsessing over the Adamic lineage for milenias.
>>Yes, mortals don't have power over the physical.
>Human destruction and domination of the environment says otherwise, and with the possibility of Quantum Immortality who says we are truly mortal? We may not be...
No, power over the physical is like Jesus replacing a man's withered arm or producing abundance of fish from a few fish in a basket.

>>41342766
>Nice cope
>Why won't you spoonfeed me?
As i said, Oxford dictionary.
It's a short poem so to speak, sung like the ancient mystery hymns of the Eleusinian Mysteries with coded lyrics.

>Do what the gods do..
Orbit around in circles/Circumambulate?
To be fair Freemasons do that in their rituals.

>Knowledge of God is God..
God is Good, Devil is Evil.
1 letter off.

>Bible wasn't given to humans in English.
It was initially written in Hebrew and partially Aramaic, then Greek, then Latin.

>Death, decay, decomposition rules over this physical plain.
Time/Entroy, the domain of Saturn.
God of Time and Grim Reaper.

>Yahweh has a hard on for Saturn
They are the same thing.
https://theopolisinstitute.com/leithart_post/yahwehkronos/

>Ophiuchus
The 13th Zodiac Sign

>No, power over the physical is like Jesus replacing a man's withered arm or producing abundance of fish from a few fish in a basket.
I do not believe Jesus was an actual historical figure, those events might be Astrological allegories however i am unsure.

If you are looking for that level of matter altering power research Edward Leedskalnin's methods.

But with the transitory nature of everything i don't really see a point in modifying this sandbox that we call reality, all children eventually grow out of their sandbox and so must our souls grow out of this material reality.

>>41342471
>Also curious detail, why does the Bible forbid long hair for men yet Jesus has it? Could it be that he has a feminine Venusian Morning Star aspect like a Rebis?
>1 Corinthians 11:14-15
Jesus's hair is irrelevant.
he also got accused of working on the Sabbath.. to which he replied :"fuck off and mind your own bizz".
>He is though, and he admits it himself in Revelation 22:16
No, Jesus is Sethian, in union with the Adamic species Christian Father named Geradama.
Means, Jesus is a Scorpio.
Jesus is the Edomite God "Adonai" the morning star,
knowledge as preserved by the Mandaean Religion..
considered a deity of Mars (Pluto after expanding from the 7 Rulers of the zodiac system).
Scorpio exalts over Capricorn, subjugating cut asunder..
the Adamic soul resides in Sheol, watered by his Scorpio Soulmate.

This is the problem..
Jesus is the deity Lucifer of Venus....
Jesus is the deity of Sol Sun..
Your messy garbage leads to schizophrenic bullshit.

>>41342471
>Wrong, the current Sol is made out of hot burning gasses (Hydrogen and Helium), Saturn is made out of cool gasses (Also Hydrogen and Helium), he was a burning hot Sol in ancient times that eventually cooled down after being displaced astronomically.
the planet Saturn was never a star..
Another example of tardy dribble.

>He also says "As Above so Below" like the Baphomet points.
>Matthew 6:10
consistency within your logic would state therefore Jesus is Baphomet..

Christ is King. Seek God. Read the Bible.
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>>41342841
>Jesus's hair is irrelevant.
Not really, the images/icons have hidden meanings and symbolism.

>Adamic species
Adam and Eve were not real people.

>Jesus is the Edomite God "Adonai" the morning star
Adonai comes from the Greek Adonis.

>Jesus is the deity Lucifer of Venus....
>Jesus is the deity of Sol Sun..
>Your messy garbage leads to schizophrenic bullshit.
These should clear your confusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-NSntIFubc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbkQjIeJFec

>the planet Saturn was never a star..
I've already provided sources that say otherwise.

>consistency within your logic would state therefore Jesus is Baphomet..
Some iconography shows him wearing red and blue (male and female colors) and his hair is female according to the bible while he is a male, the baphomet is also male and female and has many parallels.

Interestingly, one of the oldest icons of Jesus Christ shows his face has a dual nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator_%28Sinai%29
>picrel

>>41342855
Shill on Cue.

>>41342876
>Not really, the images/icons have hidden meanings and symbolism.
your one of the Jesus is a white guy crowd..
>Adonai comes from the Greek Adonis.
Yet, is indeed the Edomite God Adonai; and is also found in the Jew Bible.
If it is the same dude, then retaining the same name would reinforce his being the same dude..
Instead of the complete differences like iesous (Jesus) to fucking Lucifer and Baphomet and Shemet (Sun).
>These should clear your confusion.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-NSntIFubc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbkQjIeJFec
great, more of his babbling schizo videos.
ok, so recapping..
Jesus is domicile in Sun..
Jesus is domicile in Venus..
So, the Sun is actually Venus;
he's got two domiciles has a split personality.
No.. again with the inconsistent idiocy.
>I've already provided sources that say otherwise.
Saturn does not have nor ever had enough mass for nuclear fusion
If during the period when Saturn's creation story had enough power and his domicile Saturn beheld radiance because of his union with Leo BUT lost when he got tossed; then that and only that would be cause for investigation.
>Some iconography shows him wearing red and blue (male and female colors) and his hair is female according to the bible while he is a male, the baphomet is also male and female and has many parallels.
>interestingly, one of the oldest icons of Jesus Christ shows his face has a dual nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator_%28Sinai%29
>picrel
ok, now doubling down on the Jesus is also Baphomet theory..
Good luck with that.

>>41342944
>your one of the Jesus is a white guy crowd..
The Sun wasn't Black or White altough alchemically there is a Sol Niger.

>he's got two domiciles has a split personality.
Do you even alchemy bro?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebis

>Saturn does not have nor ever had enough mass for nuclear fusion.
Because our current Sol removed the mass during it's initial clash/hijack and the electrical balance has changed in the system.

>ok, now doubling down on the Jesus is also Baphomet theory.
Not saying he is Baphoment, just pointing out the same Alchemical parallels he has with Baphomet.

>>41342833
>>Do what the gods do..
>Orbit around in circles/Circumambulate?
>To be fair Freemasons do that in their rituals.
the Ascension (or descension) form is shaped by your Domicile and your union participants.

>>Knowledge of God is God..
>God is Good, Devil is Evil.
>1 letter off.
the Devil is a God in demonic ascension form..
He's not in a Divine ascension form..
Your one size fits all is your own limited comprehension.


>It was initially written in Hebrew and partially Aramaic, then Greek, then Latin.
The Ascended being responsible for wording the Old Testament was in Hebrew and Aramaic..
The Ascended being responsible for wording the New Testament was in Koyne Greek.
Humans didn't author the Bible.. If they did, it wouldn't be the Holy Bible.

>Time/Entroy, the domain of Saturn.
>God of Time and Grim Reaper.
Perfect creation was corrupted.
Sheol is a completely different pocket space location, an entirely separate creation.
Time flows at a different rate in the Underworld compared to Time on Earth.


>They are the same thing.
>https://theopolisinstitute.com/leithart_post/yahwehkronos/
Chronos isn't Yahweh.. the page summery reads like an academic speculation.
Yahweh isn't a copy of the Adamic Template, Sophia hodgepodged something similar but not equal.
>The 13th Zodiac Sign
Yes, creation itself was forced to fit in his Ophiuchus constellation in.
>I do not believe Jesus was an actual historical figure, those events might be Astrological allegories however i am unsure.
lol, ok tard..
>If you are looking for that level of matter altering power research Edward Leedskalnin's methods.
Don't care about Edward ScissorHead.
>But with the transitory nature of everything i don't really see a point in modifying this sabox that we call reality, all children eventually grow out of their sandbox and so must our souls grow out of this material reality.
The Adamic soul resides in Sheol, his Spirit is what ascends to Heaven..
Two entirely different energetic components.

>>41343010
>>your one of the Jesus is a white guy crowd..
not a fan.
>The Sun wasn't Black or White altough alchemically there is a Sol Niger.
>>he's got two domiciles has a split personality.
>Do you even alchemy bro?
the Alchemy you know is not the Alchemy used by the Ancients..
Its post dark age idiocy made of over many centuries by loopy incel fuckers like you.
Real Alchemy is mixing the Elements (we are the different elements).
>Because our current Sol removed the mass during it's initial clash/hijack and the electrical balance has changed in the system.
lol, what a bunch of schizzo.
>Not saying he is Baphoment, just pointing out the same Alchemical parallels he has with Baphomet.
yeh, figured you'd backtrack right about now.

>>41343017
>the Ascension (or descension) form is shaped by your Domicile and your union participants.
>Domicile
Just say Sign for other Anons here bro.

>the Devil is a God in demonic ascension form..
>demonic ascension
The Devil doesn't ascend, that's his whole point, he was cast down and stayed down, it's sad how God never tried to help/redeem him in the Bible.

>Your one size fits all is your own limited comprehension.
One size fits all is the only thing there is, we are all one. That's the whole point, you know, like THIS POINT in the circle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(philosophy)

>Humans didn't author the Bible.. If they did, it wouldn't be the Holy Bible.
It was trascribed with the help of some burning bush if you know what i mean...

>Perfect creation was corrupted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age
The Golden Age of Saturn ended because of Jupiter.

>Time flows at a different rate in the Underworld compared to Time on Earth.
That's called timezones.

>Chronos isn't Yahweh
In Gnosticism Yahweh is the Demiurge (Lion Headed), the Mithraic Kronos shows this Lion Headed figure to and confirms they are the same thing.
>picrel

It's also interesting how this Mithraic Kronos has a Rooster at it's feet which further proves that Saturn was a Solar Deity.

>lol, ok tard..
Prove he was a physical person then rather than insulting, the Shroud of Turin is a fake.

>Don't care about Edward ScissorHead.
Your loss.

>The Adamic
>He still believes the characters are real.

>the Alchemy you know is not the Alchemy used by the Ancients.
Ancient alchemy was more operative than speculative yes, the closest we have today is Chemistry.

>Its post dark age idiocy made of over many centuries by loopy incel fuckers like you.
Holy Projection Batman!

>(we are the different elements).
We are a composite of the different elements but are not the elements themselves.

>lol, what a bunch of schizzo.
Not a counterargument

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>>41343033
cont.
>yeh, figured you'd backtrack right about now.
Where did i say Jesus was the Baphomet? I implied Alchemical similarities between them but didn't say it.

But if you do want me to go that route then what is up with Jesus' eerily similar Mudra in picrel?

You need to understand that everything is connected and all religions are actually teaching the same things, everyone learned from everyone.

Also this back and forth is going nowhere.

And you're back at it again with the badly formatted actual schizographs, this one is sideways to.

>>41343083
>Just say Sign for other Anons here bro.
makes sense.
>The Devil doesn't ascend, that's his whole point, he was cast down and stayed down, it's sad how God never tried to help/redeem him in the Bible.
my fault for implying the Devil is an ascendeded being instead of saying descended being.
>One size fits all is the only thing there is, we are all one. That's the whole point, you know, like THIS POINT in the circle.
One set of Laws covering all.
the law is your ascension-form or descension-form is dependent on your sign and the sign (and sex) of your participants,,
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(philosophy)
there is more than one Monad.
The monad of Christianity is Geradama.
>It was trascribed with the help of some burning bush if you know what i mean...
they wrote what a God told them to write.
>The Golden Age of Saturn ended because of Jupiter.
Whoever broke apart Saturn's GodHead did it, Jupiter or whomvever else.
>That's called timezones.
No.. A single day passes on Earth, while an entire lifetime passes for the occupants of the UnderWorld
>>Chronos isn't Yahweh
>In Gnosticism Yahweh is the Demiurge (Lion Headed), the Mithraic Kronos shows this Lion Headed figure to and confirms they are the same thing.
>>picrel
>It's also interesting how this Mithraic Kronos has a Rooster at it's feet which further proves that Saturn was a Solar Deity.
You mean the statue made in 190AD..by a bunch of dumbshit peasants abandoned millennias previously?

>>41343083
>>lol, ok tard..
>Prove he was a physical person then rather than insulting, the Shroud of Turin is a fake.
like I said, not a fan.. absolutely no incentive to care less.
>Your loss.
remind again, when did he actually perform these miracles?
>>The Adamic
>>He still believes the characters are real.
love the incel edgelord vibe.
>Ancient alchemy was more operative than speculative yes, the closest we have today is Chemistry.
>Holy Projection Batman!
the shit dabblings of halfwits led to chemistry, not magic nor them becoming Gods.
>>(we are the different elements).
>We are a composite of the different elements but are not the elements themselves.
Our inner man (soul component, spirit component, etc) is not physical matter.
mixing us gets the same outcome as Gods mixing.
>>41343114
>Where did i say Jesus was the Baphomet? I implied Alchemical similarities between them but didn't say it.
wedge that backtrack cope real hard.
>But if you do want me to go that route then what is up with Jesus' eerily similar Mudra in picrel?
Again, not a fan don't care.
>You need to understand that everything is connected and all religions are actually teaching the same things, everyone learned from everyone.
goody for them.
>Also this back and forth is going nowhere.
agreed.
>And you're back at it again with the badly formatted actual schizographs, this one is sideways to.
better than your schizzo dribble videos.

>>41342178
>The Masonic King James Bible also says Satan (Saturn) is the God of this world (2 corinthians 4:4).
human translation...
Human speculation.
>2 corinthians 4:4
"The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

Doesn't say Satan..

>Original Greek of John 12:31
ὁ ἄρχων τοῦ κόσμου τούτου Transliteration: ho archōn tou kosmou toutou Literal meaning: "the ruler of this world"
ὁ ἄρχων (ho archōn): means "the ruler" or "the prince"

Doesn't say Satan is the God of this world..

>>41343152
>my fault for implying the Devil is an ascendeded being instead of saying descended being.
No problem, we all learn, no need to shitsling insults toward each other.

>the law is your ascension-form or descension-form is dependent on your sign and the sign (and sex) of your participants.
Each person must master the attributes of their own sign during their lifetime to attain self mastery.

>there is more than one Monad.
The name Monad comes from Monos which means Alone, there cannot be more than one Monad as the name itself implies singularity.

>they wrote what a God told them to write.
Through the burning bush...

>Whoever broke apart Saturn's GodHead did it, Jupiter or whomvever else.
It was Jupiter who overthrew Saturn in the Greek story and the ancient Solar shift was also partially induced by Jupiter to.

>an entire lifetime passes for the occupants of the UnderWorld
>he still doesn't get it

>You mean the statue made in 190AD by a bunch of dumbshit peasants abandoned millennias previously?
That doesn't debunk what i said in regards to Yahweh/Demiurge/Saturn.

>Nag Hammadi Library
Conviniently found after WW2 and has a very high chance of being tampered with, i do not see it as a reliable document.

>>like I said, not a fan, absolutely no incentive to care less.
So 0 proof.

>remind again, when did he actually perform these miracles?
Between 1923 and 1951, in an era far more modern than Biblical times and less prone to mystical fables.

>love the incel edgelord vibe.
Your vulgar derogatory language fits you more into that profile than me.

>the shit dabblings of halfwits led to chemistry, not magic nor them becoming Gods.
Alchemy wasn't about becoming a God, it was about turning Lead into Gold using the Philosopher's Stone.

Those who took the Operative path created Chemistry, those who took the Speculative path created a Philosophy, both are valid in their own right.

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>>41343163
cont.

>Our inner man (soul component, spirit component, etc) is not physical matter.
It's light, which both a particle and a wave.

>wedge that backtrack cope real hard.
Doesn't answer my question.

>Again, not a fan don't care.
I can say the same about your arguments but here we are.

>better than your schizzo dribble videos.
Not my videos, and they provide literary sources 10x more solid than whatever it is your posting sideways from MSPaint.

>Human speculation.
Didn't you just say here >>41343152
>they wrote what a God told them to write.

So which is it, human speculation or divine revelation?

>Doesn't say Satan..
>It does, see picrel, all versions speak the same thing.

>ὁ ἄρχων τοῦ κόσμου τούτου
>ho archōn
The Greek used the term Archon, the Archons were the Planets, in this case, Saturn.
>see picrel again

>>41343273
>Each person must master the attributes of their own sign during their lifetime to attain self mastery.
As the Gods did, not as this modern day self development gayfestery shitdribbles on about.
>The name Monad comes from Monos which means Alone, there cannot be more than one Monad as the name itself implies singularity.
circle line triangle square..........
monad dyad triad tetrad......
talking about the monad, as in talking about one specific dude not him and a number of others in union with him.
>Through the burning bush...
Whatever floats the ascended beings boat.
>It was Jupiter who overthrew Saturn in the Greek story and the ancient Solar shift was also partially induced by Jupiter to.
meaning he lost his Godhead unions.. he no longer possessed those borrowed powers and became a comparative piss ant.
>>he still doesn't get it
One day passes on Earth, an entire lifetime of time passes in the Underworld..
Thats not a "TimeZone", its a separate pocket space universe where time runs at a different rate.
>That doesn't debunk what i said in regards to Yahweh/Demiurge/Saturn.
Your evidence is the same incel edgelords as you?
About as worthwhile as modern post dark ages Alchemy that resulted in a lot of schizzo writings that produced nothing..
Good them Chemistry resulted to at least let them save face for their milenia of circle jerking.
>Conviniently found after WW2 and has a very high chance of being tampered with, i do not see it as a reliable document.
someone sneaked in and altered the documents then carefully placed them back?
lol, no..

At this point this back and forth is getting nowhere and it's getting tiring now, i've been arguing with a Blockhead denser than Osmium for the better part of an entire night and it's just pointless at this point, if any other Anon want to contribute to this thread they can do so.

No matter how much i try he doesn't get it and he probably thinks the same about me.

The Bible's characters are not literal appart from some very few historic figures that were mixed into the stories in a very distorted way.

The Anon i've been arguing with seems to be firm in his beliefs so i'll leave him to them, he might learn one day through trial and error.

I enjoyed the debate.

>>41343273
>So 0 proof.
old argument, plenty of that going on here on /x/..
I read some of it sometimes..
the Jesus is not real side is clearly losing.
>Between 1923 and 1951, in an era far more modern than Biblical times and less prone to mystical fables.
He performed no miracles..
Stop making shit up.
>Your vulgar derogatory language fits you more into that profile than me.
Toughen up Princess.
>Alchemy wasn't about becoming a God, it was about turning Lead into Gold using the Philosopher's Stone.
>Those who took the Operative path created Chemistry, those who took the Speculative path created a Philosophy, both are valid in their own right.
Your quoting the same post dark age incel schizos who authored it..
None of them produced magic nor became Gods..

>>41343344
I will reply to this last one though.
I got more things to do.

>As the Gods did.
The Gods are Planets.
Each had it's attributes to like the Agressive Mars.

>talking about the monad, as in talking about one specific dude not him and a number of others in union with him.
The Moad encompasses all those others true.
But it is still one.

>Whatever floats the ascended beings boat.
Agreed.

>meaning he lost his Godhead unions, he no longer possessed those borrowed powers and became a comparative piss ant.
He didn't stop being God, he became a different god all together, became the cold scythe wielding menace we know him today as.

>One day passes on Earth, an entire lifetime of time passes in the Underworld..
>Under-World
Underside of the World/Earth...

>post dark ages Alchemy that resulted in a lot of schizzo writings that produced nothing.
That's what someone who didn't learn the symbolism would say, the understanding is locked out of reach from the profane through code.

>someone sneaked in and altered the documents then carefully placed them back?
Placed them back? The ones that they "found" were the plants in the first place that just conveniently appeared.

>the Jesus is not real side is clearly losing.
Still 0 proof and cope.

>He performed no miracles..
>Stop making shit up.
Explain how one man carved and moved over 1,100 tons of limestone using no modern machinery to build Coral Castle during the 1920's up until the 1950's.

>Toughen up Princess.
You only discredit yourself through vulgarity lmao, you truly are irredeemable.

>None of them produced magic nor became Gods..
>He doesn't know about the Count.

NGMI.
I will just stop know, this is fruitless.

>>41343391
>grammar corrections
>The Monad
>altogether

>>41343306
>It's light, which both a particle and a wave.
your speculation
>>wedge that backtrack cope real hard.
>Doesn't answer my question.
what question?
you said "nah, not actually Jesus is Baphomet.. its...."..
you didn't ask any question.
>Not my videos, and they provide literary sources 10x more solid than whatever it is your posting sideways from MSPaint.
Definitely your videos.
>>Human speculation.
>Didn't you just say here >>41343152
yes I did, I wrote "You mean the statue made in abandoned millennias previously?"
>>they wrote what a God told them to write.
>So which is it, human speculation or divine revelation?
what was said by the bush is divine revelation..
Statue built by a bunch of dumbshit peasants in 190AD is speculation.
>>It does, see picrel, all versions speak the same thing.
>>ὁ ἄρχων τοῦ κόσμου τούτου
in 2 corinthians 4:4 doesn't say Satan.
it says God..
Human translators put Satan in to not badmouth their God and throw the blame to Satan.

>>41343391
>The Gods are Planets.
>Each had it's attributes to like the Agressive Mars.
Gods are beings.. the planets are a mechanism to influence us humans according to their designs.

>>41343391
>The Moad encompasses all those others true.
>But it is still one.
goodie for him..
there is one monad per union Godhead.

>>41343391
>He didn't stop being God, he became a different god all together, became the cold scythe wielding menace we know him today as.
created new unions, changed his nature entirely by new properties endowing him
>Underside of the World/Earth...
That domain is separate, heavy Time Mass density verses Earth makes it less buoyant.
So it superimposes onto this universe just below the Physical Earth's matter.
Same as Heaven where Angels hang out.. thats also not physical matter but buoyant verses Earth and is Above the Horizon of Eternity..
Heaven also is not made of physical atoms, so your physical body can't touch and feel it, nor can your physical body touch and feel anything in Sheol.

Both are not of this physical world

>>41343391
>That's what someone who didn't learn the symbolism would say, the understanding is locked out of reach from the profane through code.
no, recently post dark ages made rubbish by modern mankind that didn't make any miracle nor ascend anyone to Godhead.
Its only saving grace was chemistry.
>Placed them back? The ones that they "found" were the plants in the first place that just conveniently appeared.
Gnostic writings were once everywhere..
Your christian zealot buddies burnt everything.
>Still 0 proof and cope.
you need to up your game.
Their shitting all over you.
>Explain how one man carved and moved over 1,100 tons of limestone using no modern machinery to build Coral Castle during the 1920's up until the 1950's.
with magic? lmao, got you sucked right in.
>>He doesn't know about the Count.
the one on Sesame Street had a greater impact on modern society.

>>41343409
At this point i wonder if this is ragebait or you're a shill.

Do you seriously expect me to spoonfeed you everything and persist in your word salad debate?

What part of:
>I will reply to this last one though.
>I got more things to do.
Did you not understand?

Actual last reply to you now.

>your speculation
Read more, why do you think DNA emits biophotons (light)?

>what question?
>Where did i say Jesus was the Baphomet?

>yes I did, I wrote "You mean the statue made in abandoned millennias previously?"
Not that part, i meant the part where you said that 2 corinthians 4:4 was a human speculation/translation then proceeded to say "they wrote what a God told them to write" which contradicts what you said, so which is it, is the Bible human speculation or divine revelation?

>what was said by the bush is divine revelation..
>doesn't know what the Bush actually is
NGMI.

>in 2 corinthians 4:4 doesn't say Satan, it says God.
God of this world/age which is, Satan/Saturn.
This is obvious when you look everywhere around you, Saturnian symbolism everywhere and death everywhere.

Even the Dollar Bill's Novus Ordus Seclorum phrase is taken from the Eclogues of Virgil about Saturn's Return, that's the New Age/Novus Ordus Seclorum, the Return of Saturn's reign. (Possibly like the Golden Age?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorum

>Gods are beings
Celestial Beings

>created new unions, changed his nature entirely by new properties endowing him
Didn't make him less of a God.

>post dark ages made rubbish by modern mankind that didn't make any miracle nor ascend anyone to Godhead.
The technology you are using is one of those miracles.

>Your christian zealot buddies burnt everything.
Not my buddies, and they hid everything not burned it.

>you need to up your game.
I can say the same.

>with magic, lmao, got you sucked right in.
You really do want me to spoonfeed you.
The answer is Antigravity.

I will end it here, it was nice talking to you Anon.

>>41309694 (OP)
Study the kabbalah.
It gets stupid obvious, quick.

>>41343500
>At this point i wonder if this is ragebait or you're a shill.
>Do you seriously expect me to spoonfeed you everything and persist in your word salad debate?
>What part of:
>>I will reply to this last one though.
>>I got more things to do.
>Did you not understand?
>Actual last reply to you now.
lmao, REEEEE!!
>Read more, why do you think DNA emits biophotons (light)?
because thats your soul?
lmao...
lots of things emit light at an atomic level.

>>41343500
>>what was said by the bush is divine revelation..
>>doesn't know what the Bush actually is
>NGMI.
another of your juicy crazy as fuck carry ons?
A God spoke thru the bush.
>>in 2 corinthians 4:4 doesn't say Satan, it says God.
>God of this world/age which is, Satan/Saturn.
>This is obvious when you look everywhere around you, Saturnian symbolism everywhere and death everywhere.
>Even the Dollar Bill's Novus Ordus Seclorum phrase is taken from the Eclogues of Virgil about Saturn's Return, that's the New Age/Novus Ordus Seclorum, the Return of Saturn's reign. (Possibly like the Golden Age?)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorum
Just figured out 2 corinthians 4:4 really doesn't say Satan, it says God.
so, he then explodes into more silly rambling on shit...
>>Gods are beings
>Celestial Beings
Gods are ascended-beings or Descended-beings.
Celestial beings encompass a wide range of entities, including angels, gods, spirits, and other divine figures.
>Didn't make him less of a God.
We all appreciate your support, anon.
>The technology you are using is one of those miracles.
Computers don't work by performing miracles, anon.
>>Your christian zealot buddies burnt everything.
>Not my buddies, and they hid everything not burned it.
But only altered it in secret and put back to deceive others if that was what supports your arguments..
>>with magic, lmao, got you sucked right in.
>You really do want me to spoonfeed you.
Your Personal Guru, Mr Cult groupie?
>The answer is Antigravity.
>I will end it here, it was nice talking to you Anon.
Antigravity devices are not magic, anon.

>>41309694 (OP)
Just seek holiness and stop vain pursuits for inexistent secret knowledge that wont make you any holier.
Those are just temptations, distractions away from God.
The bible is clear: 'God's will - your sanctification'.

>>41343522
>lmao, REEEEE!!
Still watching the thread but not looking to sustain an endless chain of word salad, nice talk though.

Believe what you want.

>>41343508
How so?

>>41343582
I wish it were that simple Anon, but things are incredibly convoluted when you look deeper.

>>41343583
Great, now get out of your mom's basement.
Go outside, touch grass and get laid.

None of this endless speculation benefits and it makes no sense and no difference.

>alchemy
Chemistry made alchemy obsolete
>astrology
Astronomy made it obsolete and the stars cant tell your future
>magic
99% placebo effect, charlatans, and trickery, witches cant magically harm you via mere thought or rituals, what the ancients referred to as sorcery are today known as illegal drug dealers
You cannot harm people using only the power of the mind and goofy useless rituals
Have studied magick occult kabbalah, etc, its not useful and youd be better off studying STEM and finance or a practical trade
>buy muh magick book get seekrit powers
>buy magick candle magick crystal give u seekrit powers
No, it doesnt work. Some of the herbs used have medical benefits but many of them will just fuck your brain up. I recommend against using thc, dmt, dissociative drugs, excessive alcohol, and nicotine. Have used all of these but dmt, they are not beneficial, regardless of what some grimoire wrote.
I am not opposed to the use of psilocybin *in very small subthreshold doses*.

Dont drive yourself insane.

>do a bunch of drugs
>i saw le god i saw le devil i saw le aliens from uranus
*sigh*

>>41343612
Alchemy was chemistry.

Pharaoh's wise men threw down a staff that turned into a snake without the need to drug everyone to perceive it happening.

Only losers do drugs.

Alchemy was never chemistry.
Post dark midwits wouldn't know Alchemy if it fell on them.

Pharaoh's wise men threw down a staff that turned into a snake without the need to drug everyone to perceive it happening.

Only losers do drugs.

Alchemy was never chemistry.
Post dark ages midwits wouldn't know Alchemy if it fell on them.

Pharaoh's wise men threw down a staff that turned into a snake without the need to drug everyone to perceive it happening.

Only losers do drugs.

>>41343612
>alchemy
The alchemist theories got replaced by chemistry because chemistry actually provides results.
>bro do this uhh bullshit ritual involving the location of the stars and turn lead into gold
>doesnt work
>hundreds of years later
>can turn lead into gold, but you need a particle accelerator so its economically not viable
>bro do this ritual shoot fireballs from your hand
>doesnt work
>hundreds of years later
>guns
>swing a chicken over your head 5 times cure diseases
>doesnt work
>uhh clear ur uhhh chakras bro
Not needed, placebo effect

Moderate meditation good for mental health but doesnt give you magic powers
Intermittent fasting is good for mental and physical health but you dont need to do it for 40 days.
Doing crazy convoluted rituals for secret powers is a waste of life.
Most paranormal events can be explained via hypnotic suggestion and drug use.
Thats the facts. Feel free to disagree, but Id rather others not drive themselves insane with worries about evil spirits when drugs and mental health issues are the actual cause.

>>41343646
>wise men bla bla

Ever seen someone throw down a staff and have it turn into a snake? Outside of a book or cartoon? No one can replicate these alleged feats.
>but the book says it happened
Idc.
Claims of staffs being thrown down and turned into living snakes must be verified empirically. Turning a wooden staff into an actual living snake is something no one can do in real life. If you can do it, prove it, and the video must be crypto verified as not a deepfake.

>>41343705
>but the book says it happened
Prove it can be done
>but the book says
I dont care
>U BLASPHEMER, U DEMON, U DONT BELIEVE A WOODEN STAFF CAN TURN INTO A LIVING SNAKE? U MUST BE INSANE. TRUST ME WITH NO EVIDENCE.

>>41343705
>Ever seen someone throw down a staff and have it turn into a snake? Outside of a book or cartoon? No one can replicate these alleged feats.
indeed.
>>but the book says it happened
>Idc.
have you tried looking for like minded kin on /sci/, are you lost or just need to shit troll?
>Claims of staffs being thrown down and turned into living snakes must be verified empirically. Turning a wooden staff into an actual living snake is something no one can do in real life. If you can do it, prove it, and the video must be crypto verified as not a deepfake.
Correct.. The millennias modern man spent attempting to understand pre-dark ages knowledge was just incel midwits peer reviewing their circle jerking.
Quite sad.

>>41343715
>bro bro u dont 100% believe wild laws od physics breaking claims of things that no one can do with zero evidence?
>bro what about the bible dont u agree w brooooo?
>u MUST believe that wooden staffs can be turned into living snakes or u r condemned to torture by my "god"
>u MUST believe this with zero evidence or u r condemned

>I already tried /sci/
>turns out I'm an uneducated loser
>decided to shit troll on /x/,instead.
>Please love me
>Give me attention
>NO UNCLE.. I won't play with your snake

>>41309694 (OP)
I’ve figured out a lot of stuff just by thinking about it. I think that’s how it was written - with literary devices for everyone to be able to figure out intuitively rather than for history buffs or people with specialized interests. What has become apparent to me is that writers wrote it so if you learn how to write, you can understand it. Just like you’d understand a building if you learn how to build. Nothing has changed. The symbolism will always hold up so long as you’re a human experiencing life.the Bible emphasizes not selling your soul for the world so that means you will get farther by not relying on anyone more than yourself, your intuition, God etc.

>>41343705
>Ever seen someone throw down a staff and have it turn into a snake?
>Picrel

>>41343500
>The answer is Antigravity.

If u have antigrav tech, Im interested. Have not been able to find evidence of antigrav tech other than high temp superconductors which would still require a nuclear power source for spaceflight.

>>41343988
That is a statue. You cannot turn a wooden stick into a biological snake.

>>41343988
I also see that symbo at drs offices and vets every day so its hardly occult or evil, but no one at any of those places ever was able to take a wooden staff and transmute it by some magical operation into a snake.
If you can prove otherwise, do it, take a wooden stick, and turn it into a living snake. You'd make a lot of money as a pet snake is more valuable than a stick.

>>41345059
>bro my uhhh imagination creates reality, uh bro the uh all is uhh mind
>cant turn wooden stick into a snake and sell pet snakes for $$$

I met a guy at a ren faire who took sticks and carved snakes on them to sell for $$$, but they do not have magic powers...

>le magic power of uhh...wood carving

Hey ya faksits. I oth a fag and melted shitters b4 u bedded ya mam fakkers

>>41345018
Do you know what Allegory is?

>>41343674
oh great the redditnigger returned, Shut the fuck up and leave the debating to the schizo wizards

>>41343548
>Computers don't work by performing miracles, anon.
>What is Ether and why is it called Ethernet?

>Antigravity devices are not magic, anon.
>Doesn't know what antigravity means.

>Enoch was a beauitufl book explained the universe and the prisons in the universe currently and hindus belief that rotational huge beams of lights are home to their god.
am not a pussy so I don't get into spirituality men just believe in their religions and fight for their reliigion.

Hell will be opened in the last days and there will be released a demonic army of thousand thousand. Just believe in Bible's prophecy and his return and the promises he made throughout god's divine book.

>>41348794
>electronics is magic
>RF is magic
>pressure waves as gravity waves thru equivalency principle is magic
You can't be serious..
What kind of simpleton are you?

>>41349100
>What is a Daemon in Computing and why is it called that?

>What is a Sigil in Computing and why is it called that?

>Why do Computers, Phones and TV's have a Black Mirror Screen?

>Why are some radio stations called "Ghost Stations?"

>Why are Radios (called Ghostboxes) used to speak to Spirits?

>equivalency principle
>believing Einstein
lmao

>>41309694 (OP)

The answer is you

>>41349303
>Daemon in Computing
Daemon Service
A daemon is a computer program that runs as a background process, rather than being under the direct control of an interactive user. Daemons are typically started when the system boots and run continuously until the system is shut down. They perform various tasks such as handling network requests, managing hardware activity, or performing scheduled tasks.

>>41349303
>Sigil in Computing
In computing, a sigil is a symbol affixed to a variable name that indicates the variable's datatype or scope. For example, in BASIC programming, the dollar sign ($) is used to denote strings, while other symbols like % are used for integers and floating-point numbers. Sigils are a way to separate and demarcate namespaces that possess different properties or behaviors within a programming language. They were popularized by the BASIC programming language and have been adopted by many other languages, including Perl and Raku.

Sigils can also be used to specify the scope of a variable, which refers to where the variable can be used in a program and which parts of the program can access that variable. This can help in organizing and managing variables within a program, making it easier to understand and maintain the code.
explainxkcd.com

Sigils are not only used to indicate variable types but can also be applied to literals, such as integer literals and string literals, to specify how the literal should be evaluated or what data type it is. For instance, in C++, the prefix "0x" indicates hexadecimal, while the suffix "ULL" indicates unsigned long long.

Sigils can also be compared to Hungarian notation, which is a naming convention for variables that specifies variable type by attaching certain alphabetic prefixes to the variable name. Unlike sigils, Hungarian notation provides no information to the compiler, as it does not specify variable types.

Sigils play a significant role in programming by providing a clear and concise way to communicate the data type and scope of variables, which can enhance code comprehension and debugging.

>>41349303
>TV's have a Black Mirror Screen
A TV's Black Mirror Screen typically refers to a situation where the screen appears black when trying to mirror content from a device like a smartphone or laptop. This can occur due to several reasons:
Weak or unstable connectivity: Ensure that both the device and the TV are connected to a stable internet connection.

Compatibility issues: Some older devices or software may not be compatible with the latest TV models.

HDCP protection: If the content is protected by High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, it may block the screen mirroring.

Resolution settings: If the output resolution of the device is higher than what the TV can support, it may result in a black screen.

Software bugs: Outdated or incompatible graphics drivers can also cause display issues.

To resolve these issues, check your connection, update your software, and ensure that the devices are compatible.

>>41349303
>Why are some radio stations called "Ghost Stations?
Radio stations are sometimes referred to as "ghost stations" because they are not officially recognized or acknowledged by the government or other entities. These stations often operate outside of the formal telecommunications listings and are not subject to the same regulations as regular radio stations. They may be operated by individuals or groups who are not publicly known, and their broadcasts are not monitored by the authorities. The lack of official recognition and the secretive nature of these stations contribute to their ghostly reputation.

>>41349303
>Why are Radios (called Ghostboxes) used to speak to Spirits?
The use of radios (ghostboxes) to communicate with spirits is rooted in the belief that these devices can pick up sounds and voices from beyond the grave. Spirit boxes work by scanning radio frequencies to pick up sounds and voices from beyond the grave. They are designed to sweep through radio noise at a rapid pace, creating an auditory canvas for potential spirit communication. The concept dates back to the early 20th century, with the modern spirit box being a modern descendant of these age-old practices.

>>41349303
>>equivalency principle
>>believing Einstein
>lmao
ok, Mr Amish Farmer

oh great he's a chatgptcel too

>>41350196
>Doesn't answer why they are named Daemons.

>Doesn't answer why they are named Sigils.

>Doesn't mention Scrying Mirrors.

>Thinks all Ghost Stations are man made.

>The modern spirit box being a modern descendant of these age-old practices.
>Doesn't mention which practices.

>ok, Mr Amish Farmer
Keep trusting the science.
Have you gotten your booster shots yet?

Ezekial:27-33
“Say this to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: As surely as I live, those who are left in the ruins will fall by the sword, those out in the country I will give to the wild animals to be devoured, and those in strongholds and caves will die of a plague. 28 I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end, and the mountains of Israel will become desolate so that no one will cross them. 29 Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I have made the land a desolate waste because of all the detestable things they have done.’

30 “As for you, son of man, your people are talking together about you by the walls and at the doors of the houses, saying to each other, ‘Come and hear the message that has come from the Lord.’ 31 My people come to you, as they usually do, and sit before you to hear your words, but they do not put them into practice. Their mouths speak of love, but their hearts are greedy for unjust gain. 32 Indeed, to them you are nothing more than one who sings love songs with a beautiful voice and plays an instrument well, for they hear your words but do not put them into practice.

33 “When all this comes true—and it surely will—then they will know that a prophet has been among them.”

>>41351101
people that work with computers are nerds and those words sound cool

>>41351101
Zzzzzzz

>>41351450
>beyond my IQ

>>41352090
>>41352097

>>41309694 (OP)
Lazarus aka John aka Christian Rosenkreutz must contact you first. Then the secrets of Christianity will be revealed to you.

>>41352272
>Projecting
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>41352443
>shencomix meme

>>41352443
>shencomix meme

>>41352296
Can you elaborate further? How do i know if i have been contacted by the Invisible College?

>>41329067
>angels
>floods
>seen
>unseen
these are obviously the apparent meanings. if you don't believe these you aren't christian and you don't believe in God.
>beasts
>book of revelations
allegorical. if you want to understand it, follow my advice.

>>41352518
>>41352443
>>41352272
>>41352097
>>41352090
witness as underage b& ruins the fking thread