Thread 41377651

For those that have dealt with, been friends with, or worse, fallen in love with someone with BPD you'll know it's akin to demonic possession, at least the kind that I dealt with.
My question is what demon? Or what demonic force is possessing those with BPD, whatever that means? If it's cosmic energy, is it Scorpio? If it's a demonic entity, where is it listed in the mandalas?
If it's a specific demon then that means there's a Psalm against it or something that can protect directly from this energy.

so even if we go to cosmics, or biblical truths/words the essence or phenomena is the same, we call it BPD in this era.
one consistency associated with this diagnosis is self-destruction, extending in the worst BPD people as self-destruction-including-friends/family-career-etc. Self means all tied to them, indeed "demonic"
my REAL answer, is uncomfortable. But in my life it worked after years of pain. Just fucking agree. Just let them self destruct, when they tantrum out or get possessed JOIN IN it'll shock their system if some part of it was a feeding dynamic. It might lead to a valley before the rise up so prepare for that

also, an anon the other day mentioned the difference between demonic oppression and demonic possession; if anyone could educate on that difference and distinction I welcome it.

>>41377939
>>41377950
Speaking from my own personal experience with my, so far, only ex gf, it felt like she would be demonically possessed during an "episode." I never would have thought of joining in as you say but that would have been interesting to see how that would have worked out.

>>41377939
My personal opinion on bod, is just like yours. I will add, after my personal experiences with a couple of bpd affected people. They tend to be like some type of succubus that feeds on you, as well as the possessed person. They can make you feel like you're the love of their lives. But it is a ruse to get you to open up and share personal information that has or is affecting you. This is only for information gathering, that will be used later to cause you to relive those memories in order to cause as much emotional damage and/or just to fuck with you. They will give you amazing sex, novel, erotic, etc. but this is also part of their manipulation of you. The tantrums are exactly how I described it from my perspective. They will Transition from adoration of you, to a point when they will begin to use the information they extracted for you. You will then become more and more of a nuisance to them, and run their cycle of destruction. Self-destructive behaviors, as well as the destruction of your own life along with theirs. They will want you out of their life, only to get offended when you agree with their demands to destroy the relationship. Be careful anons! This type of person is not only a liability, but a danger to your future, career, family and friendships. Because they will want you to suffer as much as possible, even after the relationship is irreparably damaged. Women tend to have BPD at a significantly higher percentage than men.

>>41378067
This is what I mean, the anons speaking from experience all talk about the exact same behaviors across countries and cultures, like a fucking demon or mythological creature.
I'm familiar with astrology and more familiar with psychology, so I've seen crazy, I've seen drug fueled mania, dementia, and delirium, I've seen schizos who seem like they're hearing demonic voices, but what I saw from her was like demonic possession.
Laughing manically while slicing her thighs and pelvis open in front of me, constant swings between physical and emotional extremes of pain and pleasure, starvation and gorging, then emotional manipulation and deceit.
It can't just be a 'succubus' can it?
That seems too general

I don't want to continue using Google so I will ask politely here, since people here seem to know a bit.

What exactly BPD does? Full-blown detail.

>>41377651 (OP)
It's not that specific, but I can tell you that people who accept duality but not the trinity as the fundamental nature of reality tend to suffer from it more. For instance, if you confuse the void with God your mental state becomes tied to extremes.

>>41378067
>This is only for information gathering, that will be used later to cause you to relive those memories in order to cause as much emotional damage and/or just to fuck with you
and they don't even know their doing it often this is "subconscious" and the conscious beautiful part of themselves wants to help you and you fall in love with them, but the self loathing is always preparing for the "inevitable war" so it is info collecting (never realizing they themselves begin the war by doing this)
I know cause I ended up being exactly that way, and am trying to be careful to ever get caught up "measuring" like that again, it's daemon framework not human.
brilliant posts, peace be unto you

>>41378191
Ultimately this boils down to the way reality is generated in the mind, what we call the demiurge or maya. All truth is contextualized relation, and all relations exist within 3 ontological dimensions: the direction, the contingent, and possible. In maths these "dimensions" of relation are conceptualized as the finite, the infinite, and the uncountable. We see this limit of relation expressed in dimensional terms through the Cayley–Dickson construction, where algebra groups lose relations with dimensional expansion. The limit of useful relation is the octonion group, ie 3 dimensional expansions.

>>41378327
>the direct*, the contingent, and the possible
Throughout history we have gained access to the inherent structures of logic/reality through the forms of gods. There is a progression, like the unveiling of the prime numbers over time, where gods make themselves known within us. This is why time and time again, in cultures around the world, we see the same progression of spiritual concepts. The early ones were not as stable/useful, and later would be considered demonic for that reason.

>>41377651 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvR78SNn43Q

tfw you don't know what the words satanic or demonic even mean but constantly use them.

>>41378362
>we have gained access to the inherent structures of logic/reality through the forms of gods. There is a progression, like the unveiling of the prime numbers over time, where gods make themselves known within us
profound, ty

>>41377950
I'll try my best

Possession:
>Being inhabited by a demonic spirit, and having your actions heavily influenced if not directly controlled (for this it's really only in extreme cases)
Oppression:
>Demonic spirit hanging around or attaching itself to someone, subtly influencing them, like a the spirit giving nudge or a causing a slight feeling of sinful desire/negative emotions. As far as I know, Christians can only be oppressed, not possessed, since they contain the Holy Spirit. Akin to a barking dog outside of a gated yard.

BPD is a spiritual and neurological disease, not demonic possession. The woman acts as an energy battery to gather as much loosh from themselves and the people around them.
Inevitably, they implode and the energy is recycled. These women cannot be saved because your attempts to save them power the mechanism, but they can be coldly suppressed.
BPD women use specific biological weaknesses against you and lose all power against your apathy. The spiritual aspect is the way that dirty energy congeals around them as they instinctively try and fail to take control over it (wiccanism, demon worship, intentional energy vampirism etc). People like you observe this and say, "surely this energy just needs to be polished away to reveal the wonderful depths". Then it implodes and it becomes obvious the woman owned nothing, produced nothing, maintained nothing.
I would say you've asked the wrong question. How many dumb bitches have tried to save versus good, smart, conscientious men in your life who could genuinely benefit from your friendship? If your obsessive good will only ever extends to the worst people, conveniently always the ones with a wet hole, you are an enemy.

>>41377651 (OP)
Jezebel. But also BPD people are fucked up all on their own, they don’t need a demon to blame their problems on.

archonic programs/algorithm

they generate loosh by being drama llamas and harming your soul with their erratic betrayal/ghosting/discard

>>41378143
Person will get “happy” and buy tons of shit for their “new obsession” (wasting money they can’t spend) then gets depressed and blames their loved ones for it and screams at them and does self destructive things or destroys their family’s shit. For example smashing a new gaming pc you spent 1000+ dollars on, or tearing up plane tickets or shit like that. Women tend to be worse, or do more destructive things.

One guy I knew with it got sent to the mental hospital for taking off his shirt and dancing around at a football game when he was manic. It’s really high highs, where they feel like a superhero rockstar and will do crazy shit, and really low lows that’s less like depression and more like rage and crashing out.

>>41379752
They can be cured with corrective wape.

>>41379503
wonderful, I'll ponder this

>>41378098
Maybe I should have included "energy vampires" as well as a succubus. I've also experienced through my lifetime and career so many variations in people. Some officially diagnosed (schitzophrenic, autism, developmental issues, fetal alcohol syndrome, etc.). In kids and adults. I found the worst to be the undiagnosed, don't want to take any medication, but they are more than willing to smoke weed, snort coke, slam heroine. It's insane, I don't get how so many even make it into adulthood by their various issues along with their own denial. The best thing to do is identify them, and distance yourself asap and/or ghost them. You can't fix crazy, and crazy can completely destroy your life. Be it murdering you, driving you to suicide, murder by cop by calling them and claiming you have a gun and are beating them, kids and the dog. You can definitely end up in jail if you avoid being shot. And don't expect to make bail, because they will claim all kinds of shit so you will never leave on your own recognizance or afford millionaire levels of bail money. The list goes on and on. I considered myself an excellent judge of character. But these BPD demons will convince you they are not what your rational mind is seeing and hearing. I won't ever call myself a victim for it. I should have known better, but they are very good at manipulation tactics. These people could sell ice to Eskimos in the north pole. Heed my warnings, use my experience as a reference as to what to do and not do dealing with BPD demons out there. I guarantee unless they are 12 years old, they will have a long trail of others in their past who were unsuccessfully get themselves out and to safety before bad became worse.

>>41379785
This! Be careful dealing with this entity.

>>41378143

Put simply, intense, violent mood swings.

You guys talking about bipolar or borderline personality disorder? BPD is the acronym for borderline but many misuse it as the acronym for bipolar.

>>41377651 (OP)
its just child abuse, sexual, physical, psychological its not super natural, some essential part of their childhood was missing or marred by perversion. Its just broken people attempting to live while their emotions feel totally out of their own control.

>>41378143
Their moods change suddenly and without reason and warning. You can be laughing and baking cookies one moment, and then they're screaming loudly at you 2 seconds later because something (their own schizo thoughts) triggered them and you, a normal person, don't understand why they're screaming at you and telling you you're a piece of shit etc for picking up a mixing spoon. You try to keep making cookies. They might flip back to being nice within a few seconds again, or in five minutes, or tell you to go fuck yourself and your cookies and leave the room.
They'll come back in the room to remind you you're a piece of shit, and if you offer them a cookie to be nice, they'll shit all over the offer to make you feel as bad as they do. Or the opposite happens. They chew you out so bad, you just try to hide and mind your own business, but a few minutes later they're hanging all over you telling you how they love you so much and smiling and saying they'll make tea to go with the cookies, and they never even mention the little episode that just happened. Because in their mind it didn't happen. But also, they were in the right, so of COURSE you're not going to mention it because they've corrected your actions, whatever they were. And if you do bring it up, they'll fly off the handle again because how dare you remind them of something uncomfortable and imply they did something wrong!

The lack of stability (you never know what you're getting, it's mostly random so every action from the biggest straight down to saying hello is like playing Russian roullette) and reinforcement that whatever you do is wrong really fucks you up as a kid, if it's a bpd parent. As a kid handling a bpd person, it teaches you you are literally never safe physically or emotionally and nothing makes rational sense. You live in a minefield of over the top reactions, and you start focusing too much time and attention on how to avoid flare-ups instead of living your own life.

BPD is the house built on sand.
shaky foundations.
uncertainty in wearher conditions.
forcing the person to cling on to anything they can whilst they slowly drown.
and blame those who they take down with them.

I've been "dating" (we don't live in the same area, so she travels to my place every few months, and then I visit her) a BPD lady for a few years now. I myself have been diagnosed with schizoid and BPD traits. Even some therapists said I have sociopathic tendencies for screwing and defrauding banks, loaners, and getting into dangerous situations while not caring if I put others in danger who are oblivious that I was hanging out with criminals and doing hard drugs. Living a double life.
But her, she's the only one i have really loved. The way I see myself in her is the way she was damaged. I don't know if she has BPD, but her big sister, who traumatized her as a child, was BPD. She has more of OCD and major depression. But I noticed that when we drink, she goes through that mood swing roller-coaster. She has self-harmed a lot and was institutionalized once.
I really feel her pain. But at the same time, she gets anxious about us living together permanently because she hates herself so much. I really want to save her. She's even more edgy than I and tells me she only gets off at the idea of me and her raping another woman we can break and control as a sex slave.
I never thought I could be pussy whipped by a woman. But her, I feel we are soul mates. She's mathematically a genius. Has tons of hacking hardware gadgets like Raspberry Pi.
It really breaks me and drains me when she has meltdowns and starts to hit herself or cut herself, like almost as a female version of GG Allin. Same level of rage and hatred.
She can't believe I love her. But I refuse to give up on her. Yet I have had relapses because of her (she's more of an alcoholic and can dabble and control drugs recreationally).
People tell me I'm a saint for sticking with her.
And I don't have problems with getting laid. Women hit on me all the time, but I can't stand normie femoids. I feel toxic relationships are the most beautiful thing.

I have bpd - diagnosed and all. Comorbid with antisocial personality disorder (aspd). Though sometimes I dispute the aspd diagnosis; in reality, my aspd traits are not consistent. They're there most of the time but the way I see it is bpd causes me to have multiple personalities and a wide variety of personality traits. The aspd traits come out more when my bpd causes them to.

As far as the whole demonic possession thing. It certainly feels like how I would imagine demonic possession would be. It comes on like a storm inside me and totally consumes me. I find myself saying and doing things that are uncharacteristic of "me." (Then again, I don't really have a "me" as bpd for many people, myself included, means you don't have an inner identity). My personality is constantly shifting. Say one wrong thing to me and I will hate you with a fiery intensity. Say a nice thing to me and I will defend you to the end of time.

My more intense bpd symptoms come on like a fever. I can feel it in my body and soul. It feels like i'm on fire from the inside and want nothing more than to escape my skin. Sometimes I come out of it like a fever dream.

Regardless, every day is full of unpredictability. It affects me daily. Some days much worse than others.

My life with bpd is pure hell. I have attempted before and probably will again. I'm constantly getting addicted to substances and am currently addicted to opiates. I feel like there is no hope for me and my future. The most I can do is try to survive for my loved ones as long as possible. The loved ones I constantly hurt and betray.

When you're in mania, it feels like you are in an altered reality. Everything is "off" and "wrong". But at the same time, YOU DON'T NOTICE ITS OFF. You just slide into everything that's "off" as if its normal and thus you become "off".

I had many spiritual experiences during my 2 manic episodes, so I do believe being in mania is like lifting the veil, getting you closer to angels, demons, and God.

>>41383219
And yes, the self harming stuff is real. I can't really control it. In those moments it feels like I have an energy inside me that must escape. And hurting myself is the only way it can. I try not to do it in front of my partner because I do not want to go back to the hospital and/or be subject to an involuntary commitment. Although there are times I can't stop.

I was diagnosed with BPD when I was a teenager. First response from everyone around me was to take antipsychotics and antidepressants which I did not like because it made it feel like my brain was in a box and detached from my body.
(The antipsychotics weren't related to the BPD even though I was told to take the same time. I was prescribed them because I told the doctors that I was hearing voices. I found out later in life that it was just my internal monologue But no one around me apparently had that because no one understood what the fuck it was.)

Anyway, Instead of medicines I switched my focus onto spiritual research, meditations, various religions, and so on to try and get a handle on my condition and figure out what the fuck is wrong with me. I've definitely enjoyed what I've learned, and I've realized a lot about myself in turn.
I can definitely agree with the self-destructive tendencies, hyper fixations leading to abandonment, and saying /doing things I wouldn't normally do. Whenever it comes on it feels like.... I guess possession? I'm still in my body but it doesn't feel like me doing it and when I consider my actions after the fact it feels as though I a partition it out to place blame on another version of me as if I'm sharing the controls of this body.
I have tried to be better, I've made a point to make amends with everyone. I've hurt, and I've distanced myself from family and friends to ensure that I don't hurt my loved ones anymore. It's a lonely life, but I'd like to think I'm doing what I'm doing for the greater good. One benefit for sure is that in my solitude I get to spend more time researching magicks and higher levels of consciousness. I like to believe that the answer on how to "fix" myself is on a higher plane of existence than this material realm.

Anyway, love you /x/ been posting here for years and somehow to explaining my situation to all the autists here feels alright

>>41383219
>I'm constantly getting addicted to substances and am currently addicted to opiates.
To fent or actual opiates like h or morphine?
I've been there in and out of self destructive phases taking heroic doses (even tho i never od) for a decade.
You can beat it. I really hope is not fent. That shit doesn't even make you feel good. Fuckin zoomers sucks to be you.

How do I do?
Is it a normal do?

>>41377651 (OP)
The demon of you putting up with their bullshit.

>>41383501
None of the above. I'm badly addicted to 7-oh. Legal yet 13 times more potent than morphine. The withdrawals are out of this world.

Bpd dissappears on a keto diet it's just permanent brain inflammation due to glucose in people with a specific metabolism. Low carb or keto is the key. Your making a physical phenomenon mystical for no reason. The spiritual part is you learning to stay present and not consumed by emotions in the face of people with these kind of problems.

>>41377651 (OP)
>tylenol, folate

Variant of the above in tandem with Synthetic Folate problem/overload (and compounded by Vitamin D deficiency). Then you add additional B vitamin stripping with SSRIs, and walla. And that's all after probably fridge mother bullshit.

>>41377950
demonic oppression: lying because of peer pressure
demonic possession: lying because you can more easily manipulate and extract from another