Thread 41417776

Why is Buddhism so cringe

>>41417776 (OP)
it was co-opt by faggots, Buddhists themselves are based, the problem is western faggots co-opting it

>>41417776 (OP)
Because it's a religion that doesn't worship someone and so it makes christcucks seethe

It's hindoo Satanism.

>>41417889
>Topic: Buddhism
>first thing spoken of: Christianity
curious...

>>41418163
more like hindoo gnosticism

>>41417776 (OP)
jews

“Bro we should all just sit under a tree until we die”
C O M P E L L I N G

>>41418477
It was 40 days he sat under the tree. same amount of time jesus was out in the desert. but do go on.

>>41418529
who the fuck is talking about jesus

>>41418529
You can dislike Buddhism without being a Christian, you know

>>41418236
Almost like Christianity is important

>>41418590
>it's better than Christianity...
not a high bar

>>41417776 (OP)
There's a difference between real Buddhism and Cali liberal rat bastard Buddhism

>>41418590
sure but not to the conversation

>>41418477
A demon girl offered him free blowjobs forever and the dumb motherfucker said 'no'

>>41417776 (OP)
It's because they figure out a little bit of the greater truth with death and rebirth, as well as that reality is an illusion designed to enslave us and proceed to be errant faggots acting like they're better then every other religion while contradicting themselves on the basis of how they are closer to divinity by rite of passage, even when Buddha himself warns against this very thing in trying to get others to see the true path.
Buddhism gets a lot of things right, but people get easilly attracted to the low hanging fruits of philosophies that are espoused by it and proceed to be the eastern equivalent to Christianity over who has the loudest mouth. The only difderence being their position coming from elitism and not fear of eternal damnation.
The reality is that no one truly knows what happens after death, and saying with 100 percent certainty that you alone know the truth feeds into the very ego they warn against.

>>41417776 (OP)
Invented by ancient proto jews to destroy and displace real aryan mythos.

>>41419280
Crazy thing to say
Buddhism is literally pure aryanism

>>41419740
Sure sure

>>41419845
Buddhism is the aryan religion

>>41419856
What a fucking weirdo. Why the fuck would you even do that.

>>41419740
>>41419900
Source: trust me bro

>>41418541
Is there a problem? Gonna call us perenialist again? ( that dumb word)

>>41417776 (OP)
The only religion that doesn't make me cringe is Scientology.

>>41417776 (OP)
Because most Buddhists are either natives who only care about its ceremonies or Westerners who bastardize it in the name of justifying their modern ideologies, in both cases it becomes secularized and impotent.

>>41422323
i don't know who called you that but what im getting at is were talking about Buddhism

>>41417776 (OP)
So have you stopped beating your wife OP?

>>41417832
indeed

>>41422461
no

>>41419906
Organized pederasty has been incredibly common historically in buddhist monasteries

>>41419906
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_Tibetan_program

>>41422031
Buddha himself literally calls it the aryan religion in the suttas many times. he literally uses the word "arya". it fucking shocked me first time i read it but yeah. the sakya clan of which he was prince was a scythian aryan tribe that moved into ganges valley in the great aryan migrations
The point im leaving out is that he actually rejects the racial/caste classification with it and says that anyone who can follow his teaching and become compassionate and enlightened is the real aryan. but yeah im not making this shit up bro.

>>41417776 (OP)
white women

>>41422777
WTF
checked...

>>41423037
buddhism also fundamentally rejects the vedas and the sacrifice, it uses arya in a more general term to say "noble." buddha even rejected his own family and princehood. you need to stop letting jason jorjani inform you about buddhism

>>41423463
>buddhism also fundamentally rejects the vedas and the sacrifice, it uses arya in a more general term to say "noble." buddha even rejected his own family and princehood.
Yes, all true
>you need to stop letting jason jorjani inform you about buddhism
I have no fucking clue who that is

>>41418529
"Bro, Ima just let these dagos nail me to some wood so I can die for your sins"
R E T A R D E D

>>41417776 (OP)
>Currently executing Bill Gates
That's some real schizo shit but now my neighbors probably think I'm the fucking schizo for laughing so hard I started crying while out front for a smoke.

>>41424547
I do not understand any part of OP image can explain please desu

>>41424763
Okay here's my deconstruction. We got
>The measuring device for the chicken' speed is calculated in Hitlers, it seems
>Evidence of counting both backwards and forwards simultaneously on his calendar
>Untaken meds
>What appeared at first to be blunts, but I now seem to likely be explosives
>Of course, the Gates part
>The man in question is portrayed as cranking the chicken along
These factors taken alone would lead you to believe this person is clinically insane and likely looks the part
>The man is portrayed as Gigachad, however
Now it is funny because that is absurd. Somebody so obviously crazy would certainly be disheveled and not so muscular.
Perhaps the Gigachad in the back holding the chicken above himself in that flag pose is a kapparot-ish representation for the atlas-like atonement he must pay for his sins.

>>41424899
Very nice, checked. Thank you

>>41417776 (OP)
looking internally for the first time i see

>>41417776 (OP)
>Meds
Unless they're amphetamines, that bottle better be full

>>41417776 (OP)
It depends from the kind of Buddhsim.
Theravada Buddhism is the only real Buddhism, Mahayana is fake shit started to attract western soia boys; if you want real Buddhism go for Theravada, all the others are fake.

>>41417776 (OP)
it's not, it's merely your idea of buddhism that's cringe

>>41417776 (OP)
BASED THREAD. FUCK BUDDHISM. THE SOUL EXIST

>>41428969
Hail the eternal I AM.
sat-cit-ananda

>>41428969
ego-ensnared nonsense.

>>41429045
burn in hell

>>41429085
Thats where jesus is rn

>>41417776 (OP)
far too many buddhists worry about any aspect of buddhism except cultivation
far too many view the sutras as the only source of truth and no other truths are to be had

>>41419740
its true, anyone who doesn't understand this should read about indus valley, scythians, yamnayas and pay attention to the timelines who is where and when.

>>41417776 (OP)
Buddhism is the only religion with a clear goal that can be reliably reached in real life. The Buddha was a technical detail oriented guy who made it clear that morality is purely instrumental to clearing the mind, which is very refreshing compared to other religions that obsess over moralism. The cringe was added later by Mahayanis who wanted to inject moralism into it because people just like telling each other what to do.

Plus Zen kinda ruined the pedagogy by taking too much inspiration from its koans and trying to be as nonsensical as possible.

>>41429085
>>41429091
hell is attachment

>>41419740
>Crazy thing to say
>Buddhism is literally pure aryanism
Indeed. That's why it has been infiltrated and subverted in the west by Jews.
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/02/29/jewish-crypsis-in-american-buddhism/

>>41418477
Yeah... Actually, yeah. Whats the alternative? Being a perfect little slave until you're tossed out, worthless and worned out?
Dont get me wrong, I lived good. But it's all senseless. Idk why im even trying to communicate this with NPCs and litteral bots anyway

>>41430474
I would rather have a hobby. This cult philosophy that you can't do anything because it would mean attachment and you don't get to himalayan paradise sounds very self-defeating.

>>41417776 (OP)
Because at its core practitioners try to live a life without attachment but become completely attached to detachment. The origin of all buddhist cringe is attachment to demonstrating detachment from things.

>>41417776 (OP)
Every degenerate loser I’ve ever met has called themself a Buddhist

>>41430680
>and you don't get to himalayan paradise
Westerner who confuses buddhism with his jewish war god cult #5,643,031
Anyway only monks are forbidden from hobby stuff like music, dancing, television etc. lay buddhists can do whatever the fuck they want more or less

>>41417776 (OP)
Buddhism is withcraft

>>41417776 (OP)
Look inward.
Define what a cringe actually is relative to one's progression.

Or else bounce from idea to idea continually as usual.

I do not bend to be that error which others see; I bend the error to be that light which frees me from the concern with triviality.

>OP's mind attempts to fog up his metaphoric windscreen with the entrails of his assumptions.

>>41417776 (OP)
There's like no hope in Buddhism. You're not gonna get enlightened, you're just not. The best thing you can do is to feed a monk (who is also not gonna get enlightened) and you might get a better rebirth. Oh wait what gets reborn isn't you, there is no you, there is no afterlife, especially if you get enlightened. If you dont believe this you can't be happy.

>>41417776 (OP)
On the light side, however, you are free to be that voice in the realm of your chosen field, which has no objections from the harmonious witness who takes Buddhist principles to their fullness in time. The enjoyment of one's assumptions is but a game in the ever-unfolding forest of saplings which grow from all seeds.

>>41431630
It was a joke, they say Valhalla is paradise for the Vikings, it's what they consider the goal of afterlife, so enlightenment is the "paradise" to Himalayan, get it, yknow? I know they're different. Nitpick all you want but that's the end goal of it.
>buddhists can do whatever the fuck they want more or less
It's a double-edged sword. I "can", but I know that the creed itself seems to say otherwise, I would be one of those noncommittal practitioner who's so in name only (which checks out, I'm not committed), and if you follow the creed more deeply you are in fact forbidden?
What's the push for me to adopt that religion specifically? It doesn't align with me. It's not a popular local religion to justify being a noncommittal practitioner. it's from far away. Either way, I'd be forcing myself to follow a creed I don't believe in.
There's no particular reason to follow it above other philosophies that exist, either, there are many out there, and they have things to do other instead of sitting under a tree, when asked for alternatives.

It presupposes that our lives are meant to be difficult and more than one of them, together with some occult insights that resonate, causing fear in those that observe the beliefs that there really may be multiple life times of suffering. There is for most.

It also preaches retraction from life, from desires, which the fulfillment of is most people's joy. It's esoteric to the point of being difficult to understand, much less employ, the idea of detaching from worldly desires. It's time consuming and would naturally detract from day-to-day living's goals.

The real religion doesn't want you to suffer or stop enjoying yourself. We must increase the occult powers we all have, and the manifest destruction and creation of thinking material is the way.

>>41432225
Enlightenment is not a fundamental, absolute state for all who find it. For some, it is a perpetual journey towards completion. If you have never felt enlightenment, I am wise to suggest you consider those times you almost had it, for a moment... So that when it approaches the next time, you grasp that lifeline and pull with all your will.

>>41432225
Just because Buddha believes a thing, does not mean every Buddhist does.

Eastern primary security protocol alpha, post override.

The nature of the self is not absolutely defined as extant or non-existent. The truth is superior in comprehension within those who study for long enough. I do not explain because the security of eternal dominion is at stake. But take this seed and consider until you reach a certainty.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JeJrLdbuGuk

If one cringes, be it internally as a moment of change, or externally as a force within the communication with the world, one establishes a barrier that limits the focal point from breaking through to that flaw which drives the assumptions that give rise to an incompatibility with all life and thus the harmony of spiritual balance is hindered for a time to be discovered.

As I grow to redefine that which strikes at my foundation and brings a tear for the world to my soul. The deployment of my learning unto that student who does not know yet he is learning, is my shield and my compass.

Buddhism teaches, in the memeist oversimplification, that you must be good, very good to be saved and that can take life times, and that you must achieve this by right action and by not thinking very often but just remembering where you're at and what you're doing very attentively until you're assisted by forces left murky, which aid you from within and without by filling you with "light".

I engaged in training like this from 0 to 5, hardly ever "thinking", except unconsciously as meditators do, until I passively, submissively absorbed of Creation energies and forces that destroyed parts of my brain so that I would change and become of better occult powers. It is possible to find a Source as well as Sources out there, individuals and groups of people that will aid you by changing your mind and life. Your commitment to such things can be measured in your sacrificing time as well as other things of yourself, such as the parts of you that make you think the way you do, and you'll be rewarded spiritually in parallel to your effort. Affix a goal in your mind and honestly, and I mean honestly, consider just how extreme the sacrifice you'd be willing to make to have it. Not everybody can win the lottery, but you could certainly see some luck improvement if you're selfish...if your goals are selfless giving you what you want will be even easier. And be willing to accept that your fate may disappoint you, attenuating yourself to the reality of things aids your occult powers.

>>41432535
I have taken the act of excessive thought amidst all things to the extreme, and for 100s of thousands of hours, I have come to align my destiny away from that which guides you. When I reach the plane of all things free, I shall be cast amidst Hell to train those who require that advantage which strips their hatred and their appearance of mission, unto the innocent shall gradually become clean as the evolution of my subordinate inferiors is established as required for superiority in the coming struggles.

>>41432590
I too have engaged in excessive thought in certain areas. I have brain cells that repeat thoughts periodically for me that are not inside of me. I have meditated almost every hours of decades to make meditation more than a passive practice. I absorbed of the wisdom of Creation and found it wanting. Too often the idea of cultivation is favored, not that of destruction. People are so eager to be born again, so hesitant to die to self. I wonder if you've really detached yourself as you imply when your intuitions align more neatly with the common sense of your surroundings, when your surroundings lament the lack of common sense in your surroundings.

>>41432642
Common sense is but a bib for the youth who cannot yet change his destiny.

As I envelop that structure which cannot be adequately realised in mere words, the repetition of all those variables which stem from such a deviation from the norm, clarifies my destiny and though I may change with time, that hell that absorbs my essence will carry my message through eternity.

The very notion of common sense is dictated by the past towards the repetition of the same errors.

Viva la evolution.

I go unto night that night might know my name and bend to my vision for that eventuality which it knows is the future, yet they demand they are not ready.

Faith
Wisdom
Species>self

This is the doctrine of he who changes the future towards an absence of misery amidst the innocent.

Will to power

Mission realignment, the nature of self in the realm of hell is defined by the datasets which override the factors inherent in ones makeup with future beneficial vectors only.

I shall not fade and I do not burn out.

As they assign a temporal relay of designation that I shall have my will be done, I secure this objective.

>>41432642
>Too often the idea of cultivation is favored, not that of destruction


The relevant shift in species solidarity towards species survival amidst its own folly requires this attitude. I do not fully follow your intellect. Please define in a more expanded post exactly that destruction which you seek.

>>41432976
I lament the instinct in beings to favor gain over loss, to favor staying the same over change, to favor adding to the self rather than taking away. The very intuition to prefer creation to destruction irks me, I destroy and create with others help but I notice that more creation goes on than destruction; that has been suitable thus far, but the hesitancy is there in others too strong.

I seek the destruction of brain cells that impede all of our desires. Because of the way we loosh our thoughts together amongst us, there are cells that do not benefit their wielder or anyone else; I seek the weak runts of the herd such as this to destroy. Seemingly trivial cells can be the targets, sometimes important cells, but the kharma of people protect them from the worst; no great and terrible change will happen in others unless they've sinned very gravely or deserve it, the destruction of parts passes through painlessly and for most unnoticed; the truth of their heart is searched, and if they'd be happier not knowing that something inside of them changed, if that's what they would prefer, then it is so. Animals rarely take this route, plants rarely take this route, but "conscious" "intelligent" beings...well you'd be surprised. Plenty want the benefits of the occult without the work. While not exactly possible, the greatest of occult powers will always take time and practice, they can be aided without disturbing their schedules.

Angel on my shoulder, thank you for guiding my aim true. The outcome of the battles to come is your kingdom of mind. I am but a humble student in the evolution of all things, and seek to know you and your ways in completeness, so that I do not falter when the enemy is stronger and his will is the outcome of that situation beyond my limitations. Until I become that which can drive forward the stumbling goliath, I hold your heart to be my guide.

>>41433094
>I lament the instinct in beings to favor gain over loss, to favor staying the same over change


I see, I have adapted beyond this polarity bias.
I seek to find that virtue in that loss which comes about, that I might rise as a phoenix from the ashes of my prior ignorance of the dualistic reality that has unfolded. As time goes on, this strategy is perfected.

>>41432976
Sometimes the cells I seek to destroy, I consult my memory of when I was 5 to find. There are cells that beings evil and foolish and brave and good of nature bet on some of my occult work; if it goes I foresaw then said cell is forfeit in a friend who bet I'd be wrong, sometimes. Circuits too, and other things come under my aim, beings that have sinned against me for decades since I foresaw these things, beings that were born after I foresaw them, beings in the future, the present and the past. Sometimes I will that my goal be pursued in loosh and I simply watch these sinful cells snap apart with little to no effort on my part, as their culling was fated to be easy; other times I struggle, taking seconds or minutes to kill one or a few cells. But only once in the last few months have I had a false alarm, a target I didn't really need to interact with, whereas the false alarms used to be more common. It never goes wrong, if I have the wrong target the destruction/creation simply doesn't work.

>>41433148
I had my neurological design stripped of criticality when I was a teenager, to a middle-aged man. I have had assorted divine interventions to eradicate non-critical, impure and 'ineffective to objective' structures in my brain.

Via this strategy, I remain without an absolute requirement to negate specific areas of mental imbalance; instead, creation is my sole desire and destruction is rarely required.

>>41433142
That is good, to find the good in all situations. Buddhism almost seems to say outright that if you're suffering then you're sinful, because if you had no sin you'd not desire and without that you cannot sin. This seems to tie into psychology where it's discouraged to try to convince yourself any situation no matter how bad is actually good, as well as the practice of stuffing down your emotions and not experiencing them when you're upset which can be unhealthy. It takes years or decades of practice to be able to stuff such feelings even most of the time without side effects of a negative nature; thus I desire to make meditation more accessible to more people by pointing out that you're allowed to suffer. You don't have an obligation to the Almighty to be happy all the time. The expression of your true feelings can be healthy and liberating and useful, like anything you just have to be careful how you do it. You see, although detachment from emotions and desires can be very useful for meditation we can share that with others who don't practice because of the loosh. If we plant enough cells and other things in both master practitioners of meditation and those who don't do it, we can have them all doing it.

>>41433180
Some days I don't engage in any destruction, only creation, more often not entire days but hours will go by like that. Creation is of like mind to you, creation is preferred to destruction.

Perhaps it's mostly a side effect of my addiction to causing destruction, I had to design myself this way to tolerate it and there are safety precautions to keep it from going out of control. Perhaps I'm just venting my unsated need to destroy.

It's less important that I be utterly comfortable with the levels of destruction and creation, and more important that I get it right. Perhaps I'll try making it more comfortable for me.

>>41433227
Sin is but the fulcrum for the wrath of that which brings about the balance of all things in your future. Those who sin and become aware they have made an error are wiser, eventually, than those who never sinned at all.

My Buddhist outlook does not take a bad view of sin; it takes the fruit of the tree of knowledge, that tree born of the root ignorance of a mere seed of life, and establishes that suffering is the journey towards the amplification of expanded horizons.

As focus expands, one must catch up to develop the understanding of all that one has experienced, and the resulting balance of these factors makes the man of the boy.

>>41433261
Always seeking to refine, that is the key to ascension.

Keep it up

Mission phase shift.

Beginning with the simplicity of the freedom within the balance, which establishes absolute free will in the reader and negates the hatred of the fool.

>>41429085
How come Jews don’t look like this anymore

The light cannot be seen if the darkness is not its foundation.

>>41417776 (OP)
atman>anatman

>>41433670
That life which desires to be concerned with things of no consequence shall drive its outcome into eternity.

The balance sees only potential; the sides are merely instances of perceptual shift.

To become that which retains the essence of that which one desires, seek to amplify the will of the all towards absolute surity of one's objective.

TL;DR
>Peace is knowing that, as I am, or as illusion, the definition of one's outcome is determined by the conclusion of one's ascension.


I am all things, I am no thing, my simplicity is my salvation when my complexity confuses me.

That known factor is not designated by the balance, but by the individual.

That known thing, therefore, is my influence on this illusory presence, which doubts because it was never told it had a solution to the paradox; WILL.

>>41430855
>Every degenerate loser I’ve ever met has called themself a Buddhist
the ancestors are mocking you
>>41431680
>Buddhism is withcraft
it's the study of the turning of the dharma wheel. it appears as witchcraft because it is what gives any sorcerery reason to exist. say what you want but when jeets wrote down their first experience of blue eyed yamnaya tripping they weren't wrong.

To be certain.
To be complete.
To be at peace.

These concepts are without absolute meaning amidst the balance, thus one must create the meaning with the proofs acquired in life.

I am wise when I know I am not yet wise.

I go now to become that lily of the pond and design a new diversity amidst simplicity.

I require a break from the sunlight; the darkness soothes the spirit when the darkness is long ago and one's teacher amidst hell.

>>41432248
>that's the end goal of it.
Its not a joke if its actually what you think it is which it isn't. the whole point of buddhism is that valhalla exists, himalayan heaven (pretty good joke anyway by the way even if retarded) exists, gods are real. the point is that that shit is temporary too, gods can die, you can leave heaven. its literal but also an allegory for mental states, good and bad, being temporary. Nibanna (the aryan spelling of nirvana=the sanskrit dravidian spelling) is simply the idea that peace is possible in the current moment and the past and future have actually no real bearing on whether you can be happy right now.
>the creed itself seems to say otherwise,
Nigga no it doesn't. do some actual reading if you're gonna just say shit. like i said, only monks have all the heavy rules. the only "rules" for laypeople are 5 which are no killing, stealing, lying, taking too much/any alcohol or drugs, and adultery. if you do any of those shit anyway you're probably a shit human anyway so being a noncommital practitioner is the least of your worries. AND LIKE I SAID the whole point of buddhism is to be happy and peaceful and not following gay rules like a faggot, they are just in place to show people that killing won't actually bring you peace and shit because you'll end up feeling bad about it inevitably.
> push for me to adopt that religion specifically?
I don't give a fuck if you do or not. unlike the jewish desert cult, there is no fundamental rule telling adherents to "spread" buddhism. in fact there's a whole sutta (the kalama sutta) where the buddha tells a bunch of people (the kalama clan) that they should only listen to him and follow his teachings if he makes sense to them, otherwise walk away.
>no particular reason to follow it
There are an insane amount, its unironcally one of the best philosophies humanity has produced, in terms of finding genuine peace and happiness.
> sitting under a tree
see >>41430474

>>41434927
>LIKE I SAID the whole point of buddhism is to be happy and peaceful and not following gay rules like a faggot
Like I said, the creed preaches that attachment is bad. The logical conclusion to that is that one should not do things that lead to attachment, that's what it says, no wording mental gymnastics can change that.

Many forms of buddhist meditation enhance the connectivity between the prefrontal cortex and the parietal lobes, enhancing the abilities of both. The prefrontal cortex is part of the seat of "attachment" though. The other part would be the reward system, which becomes less reactive to surprise stimuli but more reactive to the stimuli you choose for yourself consciously. Here there are signs of detachment of random desires, but still there is a growing attachment to using the consciousness to desire things. My forms of meditation can provide relieve from random desires, consciously chosen, whichever you like, which would be more like real detachment, where you think about and care about nothing. My meditations can cause other effects instead.

These effects and more can be achieved by growing thinking material in ourselves and destroying it, providing faster results that years of training. I can be communicated with telepathically and in my unconscious I will know that you prayed; there are so many people that want better minds, better occult powers, better everything, and you can help me give that to them.

>its literal but also an allegory for mental states
It seems you're saying that despite being an allegory, it is at the same time literal. I don't know why buddhist preaching is like this. If it's literal, there's no need to nitpick over it. There's no need to bring up metaphorical aspects. It's literal nitpicking done to muddle the issue. The belief is that there is such a thing called "enlightenment" and that is an end goal and people do seek it and the religion does say it exists.
I'll watch as a lot of nitpicking ensues.
>its unironcally one of the best philosophies humanity has produced, in terms of finding genuine peace and happiness.
This is empty self-praise. It's a lot like what the abrahamic cults also do. They say "we're good" a lot. They keep saying "we're good" until it becomes true because you said it a lot and you gain converts or whatever. Nothing was actually said. I won't even argue that it isn't true, I'm pointing out there's a lot of other religions, beliefs, that are ALSO good. Therefore, there's no need to follow this one specifically. I think it's actually unnatural how much this creed keeps being brought up. Journalists, etc. obsess over it. It's an insane amount of shilling. Other religions exist, there are other things you can follow.
The fact remains that no matter what, if I look up in any source, there are things the religion says.
>there's no self >attachment is bad >nirvana >etc.
You'll find hundred ways to nitpick it to muddle the issue. No amount of mental gymnastics, changing wording or simply talking about how good your religion is a lot (cultists tend to do these things for whatever reason) changes that the religion says things, if I don't believe them, there are other creeds that can be followed. You can be good without this specific religion. You could even follow another.

>>41438272
>I'll watch as a lot of nitpicking ensues.
What the fuck are you talking about? Yes, "enlightenment" is the end goal, but it does not correspond to the norse concept of valhalla or christian heaven at all. the point of me bring up the allegory vs literal thing is to show the buddhism actually does have a heaven but its not the "end goal." its actually not even that important in the grand scheme
>This is empty self-praise
I didn't invent the philosophy bro. this is just my opinion, take it or leave it.
>that are ALSO good
OH WOW REALLY? THIS IS NEWS TO ME.
> one of the best
oh wait, i already said this and you seem to have ignored that completely for some reason
>>there's no self >attachment is bad >nirvana >etc.
Who are you quoting, man? this is such a blatant strawman its funny
>if I don't believe them,
Like i said to the other retard, do whatever you want. you obviously haven't read the kalama sutta that i recommended to said other retard because that's exactly what the buddha said too; honestly consider what he says and if you don't like it, feel free to throw it all out and walk far away
>hundred ways to nitpick it to muddle the issue.
I really don't see how anything i said is nitpicking. It seems like you are just deliberately misunderstanding me or maybe are just stupid. feel free to explain how I'm nitpicking. or better yet do some actual research into what buddhism teaches and stop listening to what the
>Journalists
tell you you should think about it.

>>41438495
>Yes, "enlightenment" is the end goal, but it does not correspond to the norse concept of valhalla or christian heaven at all. the point of me bring up the allegory vs literal thing is to show the buddhism actually does have a heaven but its not the "end goal." its actually not even that important in the grand scheme
holy fuck...you really are dense.
Imagine if I said "apple are oranges are fruits" and someone immediately chimed in to point out "oranges are not apples!!" At no point did I say that.
I never said Valhalla and nirvana are the same. It's obvious to anyone. It's a comparison. Metaphor. Figure of speech. Pointing a similarity. The Viking aspires to go to Valhalla. A monk aspires to become enlightened/nirvana. You, being indoctrinated, instantly started arguing over it. Even though I never said at any point that those are the same thing and orange = apple. Why would that be?
I've noticed this pattern happen a lot in Buddhism. They obscure discussion by acting enigmatic, nitpicking, changing topics, suddenly becoming blind to metaphor, etc. Sometimes without noticing it.
>explain how I'm nitpicking
"ackhtually buddhist heaven and nirvana are different"
"ackhtually nirvana and heaven for christians are different"
Everyone knows that. No one cares. No one claimed that. What is this if not nitpicking?
>>>there's no self >attachment is bad >nirvana >etc.
>Who are you quoting, man?
I've browsed even oriental websites of buddhist institutes on what buddhist teachings are and they often say things along those lines. I'm quoting and summing it up.
I don't know if this is some dishonest trolling tactic or what. The fact you need to ask at all when anyone who researched the topic knows where those are from makes it sound like I'm talking to a fed or bot. Why would you act so evasive about it? I can't trust that you're not being dishonest at this point.

>is to show the buddhism actually does have a heaven but its not the "end goal."
This is stuff everyone knows. It adds nothing to the discussion. I even said multiple times that, yes, by "end goal" I do mean nirvana and not "heaven".
That changes nothing. You're merely pushing what constitutes the end goal of your religion from "heaven" to "nirvana".
Most people don't consider Valhalla to be heaven either. No one considers it a paradise. Who wants to be fighting all the time? Yet we bring that up when we talk about Viking afterlife. For monks, that would be enlightenment.
>>>it would mean attachment and you don't get to himalayan paradise
This is all obvious from the initial sentence since lacking attachment gets you to Nirvana and not Buddhist heaven. If you had (1) fucking read the original sentence, (2) not been a nitpicking retard, you'd have understood I was talking about one and not the other.
I brought up attachment. obviously, I was not confused about "Buddhist heaven". You felt the need to "correct" it anyway even thought it was not even wrong. Is it clear how you're a nitpicking liar? I'd hope so.

>>41438810
>comparison. Metaphor.
well its a shit one, in my opinion. and not just was it shit, it was not clear that it was a comparison/metaphor at all. it appeared that you were just a uneducated retard, to me.
>instantly started arguing over it. Why would that be?
Because its a shit metaphor. also its because i assumed you actually thought nirvana and heaven were synonymous, and weren't just making a shitty contrived metaphor. i feel like the blame for assuming this doesn't fall entirely on me though.
>"ackhtually buddhist heaven and nirvana are different"
>"ackhtually nirvana and heaven for christians are different"
This is not a nitpick you mongrel. its just a simple fact of the philosophy. "you say black people and white people have different color skin? Wow you're really nitpicking here!!!"
you really can't blame me for thinking you were retarded when you say shit like this man. if you really are well read you would know buddhist heaven and buddhist nibanna are very different things, and it is not a nitpick. if you have any other examples lay them on me, i will admit to being pretty aggressive and making some assumptions about your IQ
>Everyone knows that.
No certainly this is not the case. Again, i assumed you were one of the many who do not.
>and they often say things along those lines.
Okay well now you're just admitting to strawmanning, KEK. why should i care what random retards on a forum say? don't just lump me in with them
>anyone who researched the topic knows where those are from
And yet a very small amount of people have done this bare minimum. apparently you are one of them and for that i'll say, good job.
>This is stuff everyone knows
Why do you keep saying this? Its not something everyone knows.
>Is it clear how you're a nitpicking liar?
I will apologize for my assumption you were an uneducated retard. but you kinda were acting like one.

>>41438934
the other anons right you are incredibly dense. please dont argue if something as simple as hes saying is you making you short circuit out.

>>41440358
What exactly did he say that you think is simple?

>>41440358
weird hard-to-follow argument all around imo. Seems like one anon is trying to correct perceived misconceptions and the other anon is taking it as an aggressive cultish conversion attempt that needs to be beaten back when that isn't really the first anon's intention at all.

One Buddha per eon? Wow

What if Maettreya asks out someone He shouldn't and I request new Maitreya from Maitreya factory in Higher Plane due to their absence from their futures?

>Anything that has a shape will crumble away. Anything in a flock will disband. We are all like bees, alone in this world, buzzing and searching with no place to rest. So we offer this prayer: Delusions are as various as the reflections of the moon on a rippling sea. Beings become so easily caught in a net of confused pain. May I develop compassion as boundless as the sky, so that all may rest in the clear light of their own awareness.

This quote hits me like nothing else. It's like when you're a kid you think you understand a movie, but you don't understand a movie like an adult does.

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