Thread 41439018

Forget Freud. Your dreams are more than psychological static. They are potential interfaces with other realities, astral planes, the imaginal realm (Barzakh), or bardos. Drawing from occultism (Spiesberger, Muldoon), Jungian psychology, and mystical traditions (Sufism, Tibetan Buddhism), this framework lets you systematically analyze your dreams to determine their ontological weight and esoteric significance.

The Core Idea:
Dreams exist on a spectrum:

>0 - Psychological: Processing daily memories/anxiety.
>1 - Imaginal/Symbolic: Archetypal, internal transformation.
>2 - Intermediate/Barzakh: A "between-worlds" feeling, liminal spaces.
>3 - Astral/Bardo: Out-of-body experiences, entity encounters.

>>41439018 (OP)
How to Measure: The 12 Parameters
We quantify dreams using key parameters to calculate an Esoteric Significance Index (ISE) (0-100).

Probable Domain (0-3): Is it psychological, imaginal, barzakh-like, or astral?

Lucency/Agency (0-4): From no control to total dream control.

Dominant Emotion (-3 to +3): Valence and intensity.

Archetypal Figure (0-3): Presence of figures like the Shadow, Anima/Animus, or Self.

Entities/Intelligences (0-3): Were there autonomous, communicating beings?

Sensory Vividness (0-5): How real did it feel?

Narrative Coherence (0-4): From fragmented to a clear story.

Recurrence/Pattern (0-3): Is this a recurring theme?

Somatic Sensations (0-3): Vibrations, feeling of leaving the body.

Threshold Markers (0-3): Portals, doors, bridges, tunnels.

Perceived Function: Subjective take (message, test, warning, initiation).

ISE Score (0-100): A composite score showing the dream's esoteric weight.

Interpretation Guide:

ISE 0-20: Mundane dream.

ISE 21-40: Symbolic/psychological work.

ISE 41-70: Imaginal/liminal experience (Barzakh/Bardo).

ISE 71-100: Strong astral/projection or initiatory experience.

High scores in Lucency, Entities, and Somatic Sensations suggest astral projection. High Archetypal and Symbolic scores align with Jungian individuation. Threshold markers and a "between-worlds" feeling point to Barzakh or Bardo maps.

PRACTICAL TEMPLATE: The Dream Log Sheet

(A) METADATA
Date/Time: _________
Awakening: Immediate / Gradual / Sudden
Pre-Sleep Technique (fasting, meditation, ritual, substance): _________

(B) DESCRIPTION
Short (3-5 sentences):

Long (freeform):

(C) PARAMETERS (Rate 0-? based on scales above)
Probable Domain: ___
Lucency: ___
Dominant Emotion (Valence/Intensity): ___
Archetypal Figures (Which?): ___
Entities (Y/N? Dialogue?): ___
Vividness: ___
Narrative Coherence: ___
Recurrence: ___
Somatic Sensations: ___
Threshold Markers: ___
Perceived Function: _________
(D) ISE SCORE: ___ (See formula below*)

(E) INTERPRETATION & ACTION

Possible Message: _________

Suggested Ritual/Practice: _________

Psychological Integration (What to work on awake): _________

*SAMPLE ISE FORMULA (Weights are suggestions):
(Domain x20) + (Lucency x10) + (Entities x10) + (Vividness x8) + (Archetypal x8) + (Threshold x8) + (Recurrence x6) + (ABS(Emotion) x5) + (Coherence x5) + (Somatic x5) + (Function_Subjective x5)
*Function_Subjective: Assign 0-5 based on perceived importance.*

(A) METADATA
Date/Time: [Not provided]
Awakening: [Not provided]
Pre-Sleep Technique: [Not provided]

(B) DESCRIPTION
Short: In the backyard of an old house, the dreamer unearths mortal remains believed to be archaeological finds; among them, a mummified arm whose bone forms the hilt of a sword. The smell is intense and repugnant.
Long: The dream involves excavating in an old backyard, discovering bones and a mummified arm that integrates a sword. The stench of decay is overwhelming, evoking strong disgust.

(C) PARAMETERS
Probable Domain: 1.8 (imaginal liminar) — Mix of necrosis and sacred object (reliquary).
Lucency: 1 — Partially conscious of the excavation.
Dominant Emotion: -3 — Intense repulsion and fear.
Archetypal Figures: 2 — "Arm-sword": union of death and power (Shadow + Warrior).
Entities: 0 — No dialogue, only presence of remains.
Vividness: 5 — Very strong smell and tactile details.
Narrative Coherence: 3 — Clear sequence (excavation to discovery).
Recurrence: 0 — Unique event.
Somatic Sensations: 1 — Probable real sensation of disgust.
Threshold Markers: 2 — Excavation as descent to the underworld/unconscious.
Subjective Function: Revelation / contact with the repressed.

(D) ISE SCORE: ≈ 55 (imaginal/barzakh liminar)

(E) INTERPRETATION & ACTION

Possible Message: Confronting repressed personal power and instincts, symbolized by the buried arm-sword.

Suggested Ritual/Practice: Purification ritual (bath with coarse salt and myrrh) and visualization of a white sword being cleansed; meditate on the "Regenerated Warrior" archetype.

Psychological Integration: Work on integrating shadow aspects, focusing on rebirth of power rather than literal death. Avoid fear-based interpretations; embrace transformation.

Send me your dreams, and I will interpret them for you using the ISE methodology.

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I’m sorry OP, but what you’re doing requires effort and honest work, and this board is the home of low effort, troll bait so as you can see no one is taking to your thread. Sorry.

>>41443631
That's sad.

>>41439018 (OP)
Yes and I am convinced that there are some people who have obtained a mastery over their dreams and they're called dreamwalkers.
These are people who can walk around and interact with entities in the astral plane every time they go to sleep. As if they were awake. And a bunch of people who can do this are having orgies in the astral.
I know that I'm a ghost. And a bunch of stupid bitches have been following me and trying to control my entire existence like I'm a slave or some shit.
If that's the reality of the world then don't reproduce. Whatever you do. Never have kids unless you're willing to bear the burden of that sin.

>>41439018 (OP)
Loosh junkies brainwashed people and Illuminati social engineering turned people into retards who have no psy or power over their dreams. They're like slaughter animals that have no idea how fucking evil this shit is and we're the smart ones they monitor purely to keep our ideas from spreading in the collective consciousness of humanity.
Because they're magicians, They know ideas are especially powerful when sewn into the collective consciousness can produce manifestations through that collective.

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Dreaming is one of our greatest "powers".

trying one more time, I want to help you

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