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>>228063 (OP)
>Threadly Topic
Post recent acquisitions/projects etc.

>>228090
This is a discord for books

>>228064
>acquisitions
A terrible loss. Goodnight sweet prince, we hardly knew thee.

>>228064
Getting coyote brown gear for my kit I'm gonna use in euro forests lmao

Lately I'm fighting the urge to camo paint my AK. When I got it I decided that I wouldn't but there are so many tempting examples out there. What should I do /asg/?

>>228179
painting is cringe

>>228179
sponge painting is the best look.
>>228181
this is only true if you add fake wear

>>228182
Nah, painting is lame. When I see a painted replica it immediately loses all value to me

>>228184
lmfao ok

>>228181
No.
>>228182
It's definitely effective but it kinda looks like you just gave the gun a mud bath.

>>228193
>le gigachad self insert
Painting is gay and retarded kys

>>228196
your opinion is shit sorry!

>>228197
Nah. My opinion is the only correct one. You're all just NPCs in my world

>>228198
hateto break it to you ol' buddy, ol' pal, ol' friend, ol' mate, ol' chum, ol' partner, ol' bro but I live in my own little world so I can't possibly live in yours
t.delusions of granduer

>>228063 (OP)
KSC seems to make a nicer sword cutlass than my WE
>>228064
I bought TAPS without harness, I;m gonna mod the shit out of it when package arrives

>>228182
I do like sponge painting, but I've done it twice at this point and if I manage to motivate myself to paint my SPR I wanna do something different.

>>228223
looks gay and retarded

>>228181
>>228196
black guns give away position. you know what, nevermind, they dont give away position. make sure your gun stays black and dont question anything.

>>228329
just buy an FDE gun instead of smearing paint on it like a toddler

>>228329
It's BB gun war dude, quit being a tryhard, Russians are supposed to be the laidback ones.

Anyone know why a sportline ar47 cyma would not plser on with full battery? Are the wires just loose? It is 3 months old.

>>228349
>AR-47
Damn centrists.
I would definitively check the wiring if the motor doesn't turn at all.

>>228179
You can do, but 9/10 camo paint jobs on guns look shit, an that AK already looks cool.

paintjobs aren't supposed to look like cod skins. shitty spray paint is top tier.

Weapon/scope scrims are neat IMO. More effective than paint, and you can go for a wider range of looks. Paint is cool too, but I like to be able to run a stock look for games where you play as low-tech opfor.

cop or not?

>>228349
Check if the motor connection's loose, and if it's not then your trigger contacts might be burned out

>>228427
nah, vector optics make better micro dots

>>228432
sure but theyre 200 yuro, could get a new romeo 5 for that

>>228433
Frenzy-x is 115 jewros

>>228423
Imagine not hydrodipping your gun and then teabagging your downed opponents.

If you have a green gas pistol where the slide catches at the back and you need to tap it forward manually, that's usually the... disconnector sticking, right? Is that a spring issue or a fitment issue or is the pistol just fucked?

>>228470
I mean whatever this guy is

>>228064
A pkm with a scope

>>228470
if my pistol was doing this I'd check that or the roller on the valve knocker assembly. my glocks like to stick on the slide return if they're doing so weakly, they do this less now that I've added a bearing roller. HRC would tell you the wrong size bearing to install.

>>228403
It is a coworker friends gun, the fuse seemed fine when I checked but idk if this disassembles like the cyma ars or are weird. Also said friend lost his ak alpha charging handle and they are looking for a new one.
>>228430
I haven't looked at these before and neither has he. I figure it has to be wiring but I will see what I can do for him.
>>228470
Thats WE using a spring thats slightly too weak in my own personal case.

>>228494
Do you know what voltage battery he used in it?

>>228495
3c 7.4v battery. Its the nunchuck kind.

>>228493
>>228494
Thanks boys. To clarify is the knocker the hammer in the gun or the little button on the valve assembly on the magazine?

>>228493
HRC is fucking shit. I know one of the people in there from another airsoft discord and he doesn't actually play airsoft, and until summer he didn't even own a GBBR (which he hasn't actually fielded) yet he has +10k comments on hrc giving advice to people with zero experience in GBBR's just regurgitating what other people has said. I want to kill that fucking nigger and people like him

>>228504
hahaha damn

>>228502
inside the gun. within the trigger assembly. it is the part that hits the output valve.

>>228506
Makes sense, thanks anon.

>>228504
a lot of the trannies there just collect and don't actually play with their replicas. Just post the same fucking pictures of them over and over again. If that place wasn't the only gas blowback community I would have left that faggot hellhole a long time ago

>>228509
it's a crazy place. between the absolute tsunami wave of retarded easily googable questions there's some people dealing with really cool and rare gbbr problems/guns. someone will drop stls for some obscure shit nobody has made yet and it gets drowned out by retards asking if X hopup bucking is good.

>>228510
I wish they had like a verified owner thing for the gun channels so you couldn't post in there until you had been verified if you actually owned one. Would remove a lot of the faggotry I imagine. Then the midwits could keep to themselves in the general containment channel

WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK

gonna be testing TAPS rig this weekend, got one without harness for CHEAP

is krytac vector gbb that ass?
i want an any gbb(but not pistol) with a burst but cant really decide besides vfc mp5 looking like a really solid option

Government mandated airsoft games now!

>>228599
At least around its launch, the thing was *okay* but had some serious issues - particularly that it's nonfunctional in cold weather or after significant cooldown from use, among many other things
XE video's got a lot to say on the matter but I'd only buy one if a later revision (or aftermarket) has fixed some of its more serious issues - which is a shame as a GBB Vector in concept seems like a fun gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwv8TZQVPiQ

you guys do historical bbwars, right?

>>228623
No I like speedy bb wars

I've been out of the airsoft loop and game since 2016 and have been flirting with the idea of getting back in.

Has much changed? Is there a new meta?

>>228666
I got out around the same time and got back in two years ago. not much has changed. I'm seeing more gbbrs which is really cool but there's still a bunch of hpa faggots with lines and regs sticking out of loose fitting camelbak pouches.

>>228668
The hpa fags and milsim tards are one of the factors that made me leave the hobby, unfortunately. Remember the whole 811, high level days of /asg/? That was happening in real time at my home field.

I miss the days of the "weekend warrior" and people just having fun. It seems to have dried up a good bit, though. My local scene is trash now.

>>228668
>hpa faggots with lines and regs sticking out of loose fitting camelbak pouches.
rent free

>>228675
incomprehensible

How do I stop googles from fogging up? any tips anons?

Got the Moondog anti fog, but it doesn't work at all. Tell me how do YOU personally apply anti fog /asg/.

>>228678
exfog. I sweat a lot and everything fogs no matter how many holes or gaps I add. forcing air in is the only way I can keep the fog away.

>>228679
Thanks, which version will fit best into an ops-core?

>>228680
depends on how you want to mount it. I just have mine in a pouch hanging off the back of my helmet.

>>228681
Thanks, will try once I sell off some gear

>>228678
by buying eyepro that is not dogshit. I got milsurp revision glasses because that was the cheapest way to get prescription inserts, I am not able to fog them up no matter if I'm wearing mesh face protection, balaclava, have helmet on my head. I used to have wileyx glasses and those didn't fog too.

>>228678
Voodoo goggles were pretty good for me. Oddly enough, even lancers were until they just started falling apart. I have an issues pair of goggles too that are good. I forgot the manufacturer though.

>>228678
wear a dye mask :^)

>>228687
I only play with complete/half seal glasses with side panels. Plus I am tight on money to cash out for prescription ANZI lenses.

>>228690
I have an i-5 and my prescription glasses fog under it too.

>>228678
Anti-fog wipes, bulk pack. Use a couple, and remember you want to leave a thin film, so don't try and clean it out with something else after you use the antifog wipe. You'll likely get cloudy first 5 minutes or so (just walk around the prep area) and then it'll clear up

i have a tokyo marui fnx45 and the gas reservoir is too deep to fill them. any way around this without buying an extension?

>>228712
Thanks, never thought about these.

>>228577
TAPS passed the test, it's a light and comfortable rig. One big drawback - I'm not a huge guy so mag pouches number 2 and 7 basicaly unusable so I stuffed cables from the speaker into one because they are massive.

nephews are at the house for dad's birthday dry firing my gbbr's, and will be for the rest of the evening
the smiles on their faces are honestly worth it

>>228716
In pictures, it kinda looks like you should be able to remove the baseplate by lifting the magazine spring retainer and pushing it forward, which'd make accessing the fill valve considerably easier; otherwise, yeah, you might need to get an extender (or an adapter with a longer stem)

>>228678
>>228679
This. I wear glasses, but even when I wear contacts, fogging is always an issue. I've tried everything. Wipes, coatings, thermal lenses, sprays, fans, etc... The only thing that solves the issue 100% of the time is my ExFog. I use it while skiing too, and it worked in falling snow/rain.

>>228623
Of course, those are the best bbwars.

I've not airsofted for awhile, I want to get back into it but I want to be a massive faggot larper, who makes the best gas blow back airsoft rifles?

>>228905
>Tokyo Marui
If you want something that just werks™, but can only use weak Nipponese gas, big western gas will cause unexpected seppuku.

>VFC
If you want something that looks good and functions more realistically. But VFC guns often come pre-fucked with some design flaw that is addressed in their next released version.

>WE
If you are a poorfag, or want a model of gun only WE make.

>>228913
I would offer these brands as well. VFC pulled their pants up, we-tech's v3 looks like a minor improvement, and TM has yet to fall off. also we-tech is great if you're a crafty nigga that likes repairing/upgrading.

>>228623
>>228830
Do you guys have multiple different load-outs, or is it always Wehrmacht/SS?

>>228599
VFC M16A2

Finally got to try my E&L and worked like a dream with stock internals. The only meh thing about it is a slight gear screeching due to the usual poor factory shimming. I could open it and do it myself but im afraid messing with it may ruin whatever black magic is making it run so well. Should I try it or nah?

>>228929
Do it, but replace the stock motor and gears (high torque & 13:1) whilst you're there. The little Chinese lady who put it together only put globs of grease in it, no magic.

>>228934
Nta, but I'm looking to get back into airsoft. Is there a way to get good trigger responce while not making the rate of fire go though the roof? I'm looking to put an ak74 together with a modest 700-800 rmp fire rate, but with a good trigger responce. Only interested in AEG

>>228063 (OP)
When did airsoft guns go from looking like something you would see as a typical GI / military issued rifle to those guns that all look like race guns?

>>228956
etu like perun hybrid, with precocking and rof reduction

>>228920
For WW2 games yes, for now at least. I do Vietnam war and nondescript modern load-outs too.

>>228920
I have a fuckload of kits lol
>93. Infanterie-Division, Heer, 1944
>1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, 1944
>Xª MAS (Italian marines), 1944
>39th Guards Rifle Division (Soviet), 1942, Summer and Winter.
>US Army, 7th Infantry Division, 1989.
>7th Guards Mountain Air Assault Division (Russian), 2014
>hamas, gaza 2019
>Wagner Group in Ukraine, 2023
Those are the complete ones, I have a bunch of other kits still being worked on

>>228957
When faggots started considering their 30-round burst from an HPA highcap against rental players to be totally indicative of IRL military black ops navy seal gunplay killer skill

>>228905
With specifically ARs, TM MWS to plug-and-play without much issue and with a decent chunk of aftermarket (also, contrary to what the other guy said, IIRC the only thing that happens to the MWS on propane is that its nozzle return spring eventually wears out; this can be solved by buying a replacement with the gun), VFC V3 ARs if you want the best realistic design on the market with the best-designed (and cheapest) AR mags on the market
Cheapest options to get into the systems are Double Eagle's MWS clones (in this case, buy a replacement nozzle with the gun; I've heard that's the only real problem component with them) or VFC's Olympic Arms package (a very compact SBR that comes with two PMAG-style magazines out of the box), though if you're willing to spend more there's a decent bit of variety on both fronts
Wouldn't go with any other systems myself for ARs; for AKs VFC and Marui also reign supreme (the former being FAR superior in terms of raw performance if you can find it and you're willing to detail-strip the blowback/magazine components to lube internal seals; though future batches may not have this issue as it seems to have been a first-batch rush issue), and for other platforms VFC makes a decent variety of other guns (H&K rollerguns, FAL, FNC, M249, upcoming PPSh, etc.) and TM makes a Saiga-12 that's extremely well-regarded - it may sound like I'm exhibiting favouritism but that's because from what I've observed, these brands have demonstrated above-average quality for the price compared to most others

I'd advise watching Explosive Enterprises for more info; he's probably the single-best review creator on Youtube, and specifically specializes in GBBRs
Example shown here, VFC V3 AR review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iDVLTMt-40

What do anons think about building a field with trenches like the picrel?

I am in NorCal and a lot of dudes here are rusfor. The admission will be exclusively 18+ and the minimum engagement distance will be 3 ft.

how much money would I need to do this assuming I want a 200x200 patch of land for the field?

>>229019
seems fun but then I think about trying to maneuver around a bunch of fat retards in a hallway just to get perma-pinned at the next corner by some faggot firing full auto totally gamifying the shit.

>>229020
I get what you mean, the actual trench will be wider and will have side-foxholes.

the picrel was the first pic I found, I intend to make the actual trenches more akin to the ones in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJMbtgNdEDo

>>229021
then if the field is fun while still being trench-like I guess it's all up to the players being fun to play with and you have enough money to inject.

>>229022
this is merely a concept, however I plan to minimize investments and use the money people pay for the admission (let's say it's $25-35)

It would be Ideal to:
1. collect the money beforehand
2. rent the land and schedule the game
3. make shitty trenches that will self-destruct after the game, but not shitty enough to collapse from people jumping in and out of them.
4. rinse and repeat

>>228905
Vipertech if you want to drop real money on full steel parts and forged recievers

>>229257
i'd rather go with ESD if what i want is a plain ar15 and they got back in stock
fuck ESD when they will even restock?

ak can have just a bit of rice

>>229257
vipertech is the earthbound of airsoft brands I stg lmao

>>228826
On the TMs the valve sticks down into the baseplate, so you need to take it out in order to get the baseplate off.

>go to an airsoft game
>its a banger
ever happen to you?

>>229462
no, never

>>229462
it must have happened once otherwise I dont know why I still play this

>>229462
Maybe one in five games. You need good stewards, good players turning up, fair split of players, decent weather, etc. But when it happens nothing beats it.

I finally feel like I've got good reliable kit to play with

>>229462
>go to an airsoft game
why would I do that?

>>228064
I bought a MK12 SPR, gonna get it soon, what height of scope ring should I get ?

>>229634
I got 1.93 gieselle mount copy, it's just right for me.

>>228064
Just got this. It's useless for skirmishing, as the fps is too high, plus the shells ping off in random directions when ejecting. But it's neat for plinking.

>>230030
I wish that some company would make a proper skirmishable lever action. Not that G&G tacticool AR "lever action" faggot shit

fuck sound grenades

>>230057
I have 40 in my possession.

>>230057
Thunderflash are all part of the fun, except when they go off in room you happen to be in.

Finally a briefcase concealable RPG-7 launcher

Worth a shot to ask.
got a VFC MP7 v2 and it's awesome, crazy amount of recoil for an airsoft gun. But need a mock suppressor for it with the internal diameter of 31mm or more so I can fit in a muzzle flash/tracer unit inside, would all of the generic ones that go ontop of the VFC flashhider work?

>>230326
Of all the posts here this is the one that will land you on a watchlist.

Does anyone have expirience with Golden Eagle GBBR AR type rifles? Are they any good?

>>230492
Absolutely not; they're based on a 21-year-old design with virtually zero improvements, their polymer-receiver guns are prone to self-destructing and the internals are prone to a number of issues on their own, on top of the cost of magazines adding up fast anyways
Strongly recommend investing in either VFC V3 or TM-spec MWS ARs; cheapest entries into both are the VFC Olympic Arms ($289USD before shipping, comes with two mags, system is well-designed, well-supported and has some of the best-designed and most inexpensive gas AR mags on the market - buying an NPAS would be advisable but installing it immediately might not be necessary since out of a barrel that short it's probably going to be fine for most fields) or the Double Eagle (*NOT* T8/CYMA) MWS clones (seemingly $280USD on Taiwangun, $380USD everywhere else for gun + one mag, very well-designed system for longevity even if it's not the most realistic, and has a lot of aftermarket available due to being a proper TM MWS clone - the only advisable upgrade to buy alongside it would be an aftermarket MWS nozzle as I recall hearing it's a weak point, but aside from that it's good to go out of the box), as both are modern systems with far better designs and a lot more aftermarket available, and will last you a lot longer and cost you far less money than investing in a third-rate clone of a fourth-rate system and inevitably having to sell it at a considerable loss

>GHK don't make a full length SIG 550
>They stopped making the AUG in OD
>VFC don't make a full length HK33
Don't they want my money?

>>230492
Just get a TM or VFC.

>>230497
>>230577
I may end up with Double Eagle off Taiwangun, but I will need to offload a lot of gear first. It's not a cheap gun by any means.

>>230585
Get a job

>>230585
buy anything and learn it's actually how competent you are that determines your experience with gbbrs. mongoloids with TM and VFC have problems I never have because I'm not retarded.

>>230606
This. Your experience with GBBRs largely depends on how knowledgeable and competent you are at fixing shit

retard newfaggot here, what's the general storage rule with gas(not co2) magazines?
can you store them filled all the way up?
should you empty them to half during storage?
what about completely empty?

>>230614
store them with a very tiny bit of gas. you're looking to keep pressure on the seals/orings/gaskets. I've stored mine completely empty but I'll also disassemble them to re-lubricate, replace orings, or shove RTV in where a gasket is missing before I game again so any downside to storing them empty is not something I take notice of.

>>230615
why the fuck would you ever store them empty?

>>230616
lower weight means I'm more high speed.

>>230605
I do have a job, but getting a gun that shoots plastic BBs cuts into my ammo budget for actual guns. Therefore I'm offloading shit I don't use/need. I need to at least pretend to be responsible and shit.

have anyone used ATP-Z from kwa?
how does the pistol feel to shoot?

>>230628
take that tactical fucking shit off of that FAL RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>230629
>KWA
It's shit

>>230628
why did you do that to FAL......
>>230631
is it really that shit
i wonder how it would feel compared to vfc p320
i am looking for a nice pistol to use that is not a glock

>>230633
>P320
>nice

>>230635
bruh it's not rs
if it fits in hand nicely and kicks good then it's all good for me
airshit p320 wont kill or amputate me lol

>>230636
it's ergos are shit

>>230638
i mean yeah but better than glock
1911 is truly ergomaxxed

>>230630
>>230633
I bought it already that way, bubba'd by finnish hands. Not that I mind, you do what you want to yours.

>>230606
>>230613
True, but buying into a good platform to begin with means being able to source replacement parts whenever they're needed/wanted and deal with issues far less often
I have heard far too many stories of people buying cheap Western Arms clones and having to deal with issues that people with more widely supported platforms either never run into or take a lot longer to run into, and then subsequently writing off all GBBRs as malfunction-ridden nightmare machines because they had a bad experience using a severely outdated platform when the problem could've been avoided entirely by buying something designed this decade

>>230628
You know, VFC does make a GBB FAL if you've got the money - but in all seriousness, DE MWS seems to have a solid enough track record, and the occasional reports of nozzle breakage are readily resolved by just buying a replacement, which is a pretty common part that'll run you all of 15-40 US dollars as a one-time replacement

>>230644
I agree of course, I just wanted to post in opposition to the reddit parrots.

>havent airshat for a while
>want to come back
>browse through what the stores have
>still basically no ww2 gbbs worth a mention
>the only two of note is the we thompson and the vfc ppsh soon coming out
>nobody yet made a bar or a usable g43 or garand
>theres at least more m16 variants though
I'm slowly inching back to HPA gay but this time an N23 to be extra gay. Wish GBB manufacturers made a wider variety of guns than just 10 slight variations of a faggy civilian AR.

Bought those shitty aliexpress spring grenade, what am I in for ?

>>230777
into shitty spring grenades
lel

>>230777
a neat little thing on the shelf.

how do I make the gayest loadout possible?

>>230780
tactical maid

>>230780
hpa non recoiling anything with hicaps and wear hentai clothing

>>230778
>>230779
I'll beef up the springs and see if it's a decent addition to my storm

>>230780
Hoses. Hoses everywhere.

>>230768
Northeast makes a Sten that seems pretty well-regarded, but I agree that there's absolutely a void in the market for WW2 GBBRs - that being said, can't be surprised that ARs get the lion's share of attention given how easy it is to make all sorts of different variants and how prevalent they are in both media and actual real-world use
At least we're seeing retro AR variants popping up instead of 20 billion generic freefloat AR builds, for whatever that's worth
>>230777
Everyone I've talked to who uses them says they work fine enough in CQB but have inconsistent BB dispersion, and that you really need to toss them gently to avoid damaging the thin plastic doors - they work, but they aren't perfect
>>230780
either invest really hard into big-budget speedsoft or milsim loadouts and then act like a pretentious prick about it when people don't play the sport exactly like you do
bonus points if you end up cheating in some way while playing

>>230795
>NE Sten
I've heard bad things about it. Mainly really poor accuracy and magazines dumping out gas because they don't have any features to protect the mags from syphoning gas out of the mag when you tilt it too much to the right.
>At least we're seeing retro AR variants popping up instead of 20 billion generic freefloat AR builds, for whatever that's worth
Yeah but still. A select fire BAR or a Thompson not made by WE would be killer.

>>230800
If I had to guess regarding the Sten, it's probably the same issue a lot of open-bolts face: gas is released while the BB is still moving into the hop unit, causing unpredictable rotations
Might be possible to resolve it the same way other open-bolts have been, by either adding a spring standoff that forces the nozzle in a little earlier or clamping the metal reinforcement of a Maple Leaf bucking down a little more tightly to increase friction and stop the BB in its tracks sooner - XE's shown the former in the NE Uzi video and the latter in the VFC M249 video, IIRC
And a GBB BAR would fuck unbelievably hard, even in the realm of AEGs the only one that's commonly available is pretty shit IIRC

>>230801
I know the WE Thompson has that extra spring behind the nozzle and it still sucks ass. That also just might be general WE niggery though because I don't think they've released a single good long GBB yet.

>>230805
v3 bolt catch improvements are looking promising but I don't think there's much else they changed.

>>230806
I had a WE M16A3 and that thing was constantly spitting out gas through the ejection port, had massive cooldown issues and kept breaking trigger bearings. If they only thing they changed was the bolt catch then it's still a shit gun especially considering how VFC guns aren't that much more expensive and have much better mags.

>>230807
lol

>>230795
>>230800
Does Northeast make anything with good performance? I heard the Sten was a bit shit, same with the Uzi, I assume the FAMAS isn't great as well. They seem more like collectors pieces more than anything.

>>230805
At least in XE's case, it fully resolved the issue in the Uzi - so yeah, probably just a WE moment
>>230810
Uzi does seem to perform reasonably well with either open-bolt fix applied, but obviously that requires immediately doing work to a gun fresh out of the box - though I also recall that they've been polishing various aspects of the design since release
No idea about the FAMAS but I hope it's at least decent

>>230828
>probably just a WE moment
I really wish they didn't actually make the Thompson. Now nobody else is going to make one for a long time since "there is already one out on the market". Same with SRC and the MP40 because from what I've heard it also sucks dick.

>>230805
>WE niggery
Their G36 is pretty solid.

>>230846
If WE didn't make one I can't imagine that any other decent manufacturer would make one. TM, VFC, GHK, don't make any GBBRs older than the AK. WE, despite the jank, make a pretty eclectic bunch of replicas e.g. Colt Junior, Beretta 950, L85, if WE hadn't bothered I don't think we'd see other manufacturers stepping in.

why are airsofters generally broke retards?

>>230900
VFC made a PPSh and I think VFC has at least slightly better quality guns than WE does.

>>230807
This. Had 3 WE ARs, then bought an MWS and now I'm on team VFC

>>230901
We spend our money on our hobby and come to games to play and not talk about normalfag shit

>>230904
yeah that's the problem lol

>>230810
Have an MP2A1 and it's my least used replica. Not cold weather resistant at all. From the looks of it the Famas isn't very good as well. It seems like Northeast is what VFC was 10 years ago. Decent replicas of real firearms but not very good for actual gameplay. Hope they improve and are on par with VFC

>>230905
Go do another hobby, normalnigger

>>230907
you're retarded lol

>>230903
>Had 3 WE ARs
My condolences
>then bought an MWS and now I'm on team VFC
What made you do the switch? Muh realism or was there something wrong with the Marui?

>>230909
Mostly realism and I wanted an M16 but making one on the MWS system is retardedly expensive. Only have TM pistols now and I love them but all the TM rifles feel like toys to me

>>230917
>I wanted an M16
Very good reason. I'm thinking of coming back to airsoft and I'm tempted to buy either the VFC M16A2 or the 727 but I'm probably going to end up with some HPGay because it's such a massive force multiplier in airshit.

>>230919
slug

is there a way to make gas produce more "smoke" when firing without using those smoke units?

>>230919
>caring about wining and not having fun
tried HPA once and don't want to go back after using GBBRs

My friends are making fun of me for putting a gueissele SMR on an HK416A5

>>230942
Good

>>230942
416 is quadrails only
everything else is wrong

>>230945
A7 is pretty cool with the M-lok, ackshyually

>>230942
Post pic

>>230946
>hk using something not proprietary
you are still dreaming anon

>>230979

>>230980
I refuse to believe that Hk made something that is standard. guy in the back original HK not-keymod-gofuckyourself.

Does anyone have the slightest clue if the tridos.design rail adapter for the SSX23/MK23 fits the KWA MK23? It almost seems like a no brainer on paper, and yet I can't find this specific piece of info anywhere as if no one has actually attempted it.
https://tridos.design/products/frame-rail

The new cyma aks arent actually full steel. Outer barrel is still shitty pot metal that makes the gun wobbly before long

>Just sold my cyma ak so I'm down to a reasonable three guns
>Someone posts a cheap PKM for sale

>>231385
If you're referring to the Cyplats, that means a lot of retailers have been engaging in a fuckload of false advertising since every single retailer I've seen listing the things mentions that at least the receiver and outer barrel are steel
Either that or you need to RMA the thing, because you got a model with an incorrect outer barrel

>buying Cymashit

>>231560
Where
>The outer hull, except for the barrel and trigger, is made of steel
https://airsoft-rus.ru/catalog/1025/510805/
Its full steel, gweilo! *except for x, y and z

i was so fucking annoyed by this crap's avability i just drew it in fusion
also how not to cad 101 sketches lmao

>>231621
nice job. I just designed some mags for this hpa converted gbbr I'm using but your sketches look a lot cleaner than the absolute monstrosity I've been starting at for a few days.

>>231624
>hpa converted gbbr
the one that has the HPA line going through the grip and has mags that keep the bolt catch function?

>>231625
yeah one of those

>>231625
It's the first real thing I've designed in CAD but I wanted short mags.

>>231624
im now printing it with my voron machine
>>231627
this looks really nice anon, good job there too

>>231628
Thanks. I think it's a good system and the file availability is a huge bonus. I'll likely upload the files once I can verify they function nicely. printer is down for a week while I wait for a new hotend throat.

i hope this works because i am pretty sure that paramatric constraints are broken beyond repair before i did all the fillets
if this doesnt work some thogh time awaits

>>231631
it fits well but i found some minor problems
all fixable very easily surprisingly and ar stock fits really well
i think the fixed design will work perfectly

>>231656
>it fits well but i found some minor problems
relatable

>>231673
picrel is a first print
all problem it has are hook position and hinge hole&grubscrew diameter

>>231682
came out looking great. nailing the dimensions seems to be the hard part.

2nd iteration worked perfectly without any modification

after sanding and burnishing
if you ask about strength it is more than usable
cant feel any of the flmsy of usual 3d prints

>>231991
pa6cf?

>>232004
asa-cf, i will reprint in pa6cf though

>>232032
hell yeah dude

Is this shit discontinued or does it get restocked like once a decade?
https://www.evike.com/products/61466/
No reputable retailer anywhere seems to have the black version available, and from what I've seen Zshot went tits up like 5 years ago.

>>232145
If you're saying the manufacturer went out of business years ago, then a restock seems unlikely anywhere, so you're left with lesser retailers and secondhand market.

>>232160
Man that sucks dick. I'm pretty sure they were the only ones making actual licensed Osprey replicas, and because of my cuntry's import laws I'm practically limited to Evike only to buy shit.
>If you're saying the manufacturer went out of business years ago
To be honest that's a half assumption on my part and half logical conclusion. Some fags on plebbit said they fucked over like a couple dozen people on some expensive shit around 2020 and then they completely disappeared after getting called out. The dates line up with screenshots on wayback machine too, but I'm not sure them being out of business was ever officially announced in any way. They just up and vanished since then and that was it. I can't find any actual legal confirmation of bankruptcy, then again I'm no expert so I may be not looking in the right places. Funnily enough, one of the main reasons why I had my doubts about this whole thing is they do still have the shorter 9mm version in tan on Evike. So it either means they're somehow still getting stock of that one somehow, or it's so ugly and undesirable that they still have 5 year old stock on hand.

Anyway, I guess that's a no-go for that. I was looking to get a cool square-ish suppressor for the USP Tac I have coming in soon but it's slim pickings on this site. The closest things I like seem to be pic related or the Dytac mock suppressor for Vectors.

>>232161
>it's so ugly and undesirable that they still have 5 year old stock on hand
This DESU. It'd say either buy the tan one and paint it black, or somehow get a 3D-printed one.

>>232145
Here is one from a different company for sale in europe:
https://www.powair6.com/en/dummy-silencer/5281-pps-osprey-style-14mm-dummy-long-suppressor.html

>>232194
Unfortunately like I said in >>232161, I'm limited to Evike for my airsoft autism. Otherwise I think this would be another great option
https://us.novritsch.com/product/modular-suppressor-v2/
As it stands where I live, I'd literally have to get an actual firearms import permit in order to import airsoft stuff because there are no airsoft laws here, so it basically means they get treated as firearms in customs just because "they shoot stuff". The only reason I can get shit from Evike is I know a middleman with a local store who can import from them specifically, but not from any other retailer.

>old head here
I shouldve got one of the old 8mm Marushins mossbergs when I had the chance. The one that didnt use shells.

>>232306
I used to talk to Evike and his Uncle all the time, when their shop was just a "hole in the wall". Where did all the time go?

Anyone doing any cool kits or just typical airsoft/vidya inspired faggot shit?

>>232306
>it basically means they get treated as firearms in customs just because "they shoot stuff".
Canada?

>>232306
beanerland?

>>228623
I used to be a reenactor but Im an Asian, thats the reason why everyone mocked me in a Wehrmacht/SS uniforms. So I was selling my Artillery Waffenrock uniform bc of them

Is the tac41 sl worth it or just yet another shilled product?

>>232745
>>232749
as a certified Canadoid, airsoft guns over 366FPS (which is the import minimum, because otherwise they're considered prohibited replica firearms for the purposes of importation) are considered unregulated firearms meaning they can be privately imported, purchased and owned by anyone over 18 (though the CBSA really likes to fuck over private importers of airsoft guns whenever possible)
More likely Brazil, where owning airsoft is an 18+ thing but importing it is a "gun dealer licensing" matter that's resulted in it being prohibitively expensive for most people since actual licensed importers jack up the prices to an extent that would make Canadian retailers blush - though I have to wonder why he's using Evike at that point since that would also qualify as importation

>>232867
I'm also Canadian, but him saying
>The only reason I can get shit from Evike is I know a middleman with a local store who can import from them specifically, but not from any other retailer.
Made me think they were talking about AndysAirsoft, since they do redwolf and evike imports.

>>232745
>>232749
No dice, but I can tell you it's Central America. Not a beaner or a HUE but somewhere in between.

>>232867
>>232882
If I'm completely honest, I don't know the specifics of why exactly my middleman only imports from Evike. It's not something that I'm interested in knowing or even if he's willing to divulge it to begin with, but I've never asked him anyway.
In any case, after looking through this list https://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf-airsoft-shipping I can tell you I am in fact completely fucked and not even accessories are legal to import without a firearm permit. Funnily enough I've bought some cheap lasers for fun in aliexpress and I'm fairly certain they only get through because they get declared to customs as "camera range finder equipment " or similar things to that extent.

>>232986
Costa Rica it is, since that's the only country that says "cannot ship airsoft guns" without at least stating that accessories are fine
Sucks that they're that strict about it, my guess as to why your middleman is using Evike is that he may have a contact in the US that can get free shipping on his bulk orders, thus being considerably cheaper to ship abroad than having Evike (who are notoriously bad about international shipping costs) do it themselves - but that's just my theory

>>233005
Guess that was a bit too on the nose, huh. Yeah that's the place.
>my guess as to why your middleman is using Evike is that he may have a contact in the US that can get free shipping on his bulk orders
That may be the case. I purchased some pistols with him months and months ago, and just very recently he told me that the reason they hadn't gotten here is they got packed into a big bulk order along with, what he called, traumatic weapons. Turns out they all got here ages ago, but those traumatic weapons specifically got rejected by customs, and since they all came in bulk, he couldn't just pick and choose which ones to keep here and which ones to send back, so the entire bulk order got sent back no questions asked. He did mention they were being shipped from Florida as it happens with a lot of imports here, so your theory might be quite close to the truth.

>>233040
I honestly suspect it's a case of a US-based contact because that's roughly similar to how some people I've talked to who live near the US-Canada border can take advantage of both free shipping from US retailers and not being fucked with by customs when importing from elsewhere - some people open up PO boxes stateside with the express purpose of giving themselves a US address to ship to so that they can just drive down, pick up their goods, make them Canada-compliant (by increasing the velocity above a certain threshold, because the CBSA is retarded and decided that airsoft guns have to hit hard enough to pierce a pig's eye to be legal to import) and produce forms confirming as such if the product hasn't already gone through that, and bring it back with them in their belongings since it's a lot harder for the CBSA to be as much of a pain in the ass as they normally can be when it means stopping someone who's actively entering the country without anything illegal on them
Shit sucks but it's not the worst way to work around a terrible situation
Also, out of curiosity, what's the airsoft scene in Costa Rica like?

>>233103
Right, I reckon that's more or less how he does it. Again, I don't have any interest to ask him about it in detail, but if it lines up with how you know other people do it, then it's more than likely close enough.
>Also, out of curiosity, what's the airsoft scene in Costa Rica like?
My interest lies more in collecting replicas of weapons I find cool for one reason or another, so I haven't been too keen on investigating actual events around here. That said, based on what I've found during my occasional research on airsoft, the community ranges from extremely small to borderline nonexistent.
That probably comes down to two factors:
1. The cost of the hobby in general is astronomically high because you can't just go to your local Walmart to buy a $30 BB gun for shits and giggles, specially not for licensed/branded replicas. Your only options are contacting people like this guy I know, who clearly has to make a profit somehow so for example, if you want a $100 pistol from Evike, he'll mark it up to be roughly $200 in our currency. The price increase is approximately +100% in most cases just because the process of importing them is such an asspain, and I'm fairly certain actually selling them too is in a bit of a gray area legally. For instance, I don't think he's ever asked me for my age or ID, even though it should be limited to +18.
2. As I've mentioned, all "shooting devices" are heavily regulated unless they're literal toys like Nerf guns or similar shit, and real firearms are practically reserved for law enforcement. You can get a carry permit but it's a convoluted process and you'll be lucky if you can carry a small self defense pistol/revolver by the end, let alone purchase a big caliber rifle. This has lead to more than one group of airsofters to just fizzle out over time because the barrier of entry is so restrictive and expensive that the average guy will never bother to take up the hobby. It is for all intents and purposes a hobby for the wealthy.

just got booted from a game today

>be firefighter
>me and the boys go to a beginner's airsoft dig
>buy some basic airsoft shit; mismatched camo, gun etc
>teams are getting picked
>enemy team has a pic related except wearing a ghillie suit
>is so fucking fat the ghillie suit doesn't cover him properly
>can see his regular clothes through his ghillie
>fatboy has some fucking alien gun GPA sniper rifle with 100m range
>so accurate it's basically a laser beam
>get a thermal imaging camera out my truck that i use for fire safety inspections
>tuck it into my pouches
>game starts
>i know fatfuck is too fucking fat to actually walk into the arena and do objectives
>bitchtits just sits at the back and shoots at random kid with his £2000 gun
>go as wide as i can
>don't shoot any other players
>take out my TIC
>scan bushes
>giant fucking white ghillie blob appears clear as day
>bright fucking white slurmblob
>fatfuck must be sweating like a beast inside his ghillie suit
>sneak to around 10m behind his fatbitch ass
>full auto him in the ass cheek
>he whails in some kind of blubberspeak
>"SNARF SNARF, UHHH HIT"
>waddles off back to start point
>i stay put and hide
>keep tracking him with my TIC
>he wobblewalks back out to the same place
>flumps his fat bitchass back down and starts sniping
>full auto his fat ass cheek in the same place
>he screams and slurmburps something in fatspeak
>waddles back to spawn
>this time he comes back looking for me
>get's fatfatigue and decides to give up the seach
>dumps his fat ass back down in the same spot
>i throw a pyrotechnic grenade at hime
>lands on his fatfolks
>he fatpanics and tries to get up
>can't
>rolls over on his back like a fucking beached whale
>grenade goes off next to him
>full auto him in his fatboy belly for good measure
>he calls the marshal on me for shooting him while he was already out
>lifts his shirt to show marshal all the pellet marks on his blubber
brev i fucking laughed so hard i started crying

>>233510
Funny but didn't happen

>>233510
Didn't happen but it should have, just like certain historical events

>>233644
lmao real

>>233510
>firefighter
You're clearly petty enough to be one
>get raised to believe all firefighters are heroes
>know the son of one, says that's bullshit
>be in mall
>walking through parking lot, super quiet
>see Firefighter kid and his little brother
>little brother runs ahead on crosswalk
>firefighter gallops over, picks the kid up, starts smacking him
>"DO YOU WANT TO GET HURT? THAT'S HOW YOU GET HURT!"
>the son I know runs over, apologizing
>dad backhands him, yells at him for not watching over his little brother
>as far as I know, we had 3 fires total, over 10 years all of them small brush fires and a couple of basic 911 tier calls
>that's all the local department ever went on, and firefighter dad got a 20% discount at the mall applebees for and jerked himself off over
Thanks for proving your career is filled with fags

Aight gents I'm gonna be an NPC in an event here soon. Somewhat postapoc, I'm gonna be a banker. I've got one of those KWC CO2 Uzis, does anyone know a good shoulder holster for a pdw like that? Well, good as in will last me a weekend for airsoft. I'm gonna try to hide it under a suit jacket so I can at least make a last stand when the goons come shoot my guards and come for the vault.

Also why do you guys hate HPA? I come from a paintball background and HPA makes a gun so much more reliable than the tamiya clockworks. I just wish it was a little easier to get into; I'd rather everyone walk around with those.

>>234268
its fuckin gay and boring

>>234276
and I mean HPA "engines". HPA to power GBBs is based and basedpilled.

>>228179
don't be a pussy and spray that shit up

>>234277
HPA for gbbrs is mega gay and retarded. Kill yourself, faggot.

>>234268
Tier of gun users
Melee > Using the field rentals as a regular > using springers > using a basic bitch aeg or gas (bb or nbb, doesn't matter) at lowcap > using a basic bitch aeg or gbb at midcap > newbie using field rental >faggots with a special ebb or gbbr blowback mid/lowcapwho needs a $900 gun to beat up teenagers >hpa lowcap > aeg/gas hicap > hpa midcap > hpa hicap
When the sport was first started, it was japs perfectly happy to shoot plastic pellets at each other just hard enough to notice, but not cause permanent damage. Airsoft was (and still is) great in this zone. 250-450 fps, playing with midcaps? Perfect.
Then faggots started pressing it too far. 500+ fps. 400 round magazines. They snicker and try and act like they're the greatest (hurr, my gun is more killy than yours and worth more xD) but anyone with half a brain knows it's a case of diminishing returns--you're paying $900 for a quarter of what some budget basic $400 Palmetto ar15 can do
>but I'm such a special tactical genius cqb ranger black ops operator I need a mega gun for my mega skills
I've generally noticed that the worse the player, the harder they try and act like they're a gucci daniel defense larperator in real life. Does your field have team color rules? Bitches try and play ambiguous within the rules, and wear colors that can be confused for either side. Fun people make it clear which side they're on. HPA guns are the same thing--retards trying too hard to beat up teenagers and parents there for a birthday party.
In sum? Legit killers are content to play with field rentals, laugh it off when some newbie shoots them, and will happily wear just red or blue in a red vs. blue game.
Wannabes bring super spec'd up HPA guns to murder kids there for the first time, throw a pissy fit that someone friendly fires them when they're wearing brown and refuse to wear color/team bands, and make the field worse, because they complain "if I'd have a real gun, I'd kill you!"

>>234301
kill me yourself you bitch.

>>232722
Be the change you want to see anon
Here'a little tidbit for those who know what I'm talking about
>guy wears a wizard costume to airsoft
>field sees an increase in fantasy-themed gear and tactical cloaks

>>234310
>>234310
pretty true

I'm going to open my own airsoft field with fps limits of 350 for everything, your BFGs are banned, no high caps at all (exceptions for timmies will be made, they're easy enough to spot). cannot wait to turn away all the people who will pray on my downfall because they're too stupid to get a green light.

>>234310
cope

>>234310
>>234319
That ranking only applies for over 18s (which you should be to post here)
Kiddies can bring whatever, hell, up to and including 21 can play hpa hicap.
Past that though?
You need to overshoot a little kid and confuse him with your camo? (IT'S NOT CRYTEK BROWN, IT'S CRYTEK FADED COYOTE!)
Faggot
>t. a guy who gets $700 HPAs out with a c02 lowcap

>>234319
project

>>234320
thnk u four ur cervix

>>234313
Yeah I dont get it either
Im guessing the jannie is actually one of the two pedophile posters >>234304
>>234304 and thats why he so selectively and defensively deleted and banned here.

Janny you are an actual corrupt piece of shit
I hope you know that, you worthless fucking loser

Why are you bending over backwards to protect pedos, janny? Quite suspicious!!

This is not a troll post in any way nor have any of my posts ever been trolling

This is pure and unlawful CENSORSHIP based on nothing but personal motive

CENSORSHIP
CENSORSHIP
CENSORSHIP
CENSORSHIP

>>234322
thanks anon you can put your 6mm balls on me anytime

schizoposting and retardposting at the same time is crazy.

>>234317
Incredibly based, I wish you luck.

>>234317
what's a BFG?

>>234348
airsoft version of dooms BFG

you must be at least 18 years or older to post here

>>234320
>Kiddies can bring whatever, hell, up to and including 21 can play hpa hicap.

No way. Kids with HPA's are whiny brats with parents who get them whatever they want and will also spaz out when they get hit/not get hit despite their expensive loadout because $$$ = winning.

>>234402
This. There was a video a few years ago where some brat got tackled for being a petty overshooting faggot and got banned from the field

>>234402
Exactly, you let them have it because >>234411
Is stuff that'll root the dumb timmies out early. Most if not all fields I know are happy to ban retards, because insurance policies are worth their weight in gold, if nothing more than a karen legal defense wall
>why did you ban my baby boy he didn't do anything wrong
>ma'am he violated our safety rules insurance requires us to control or ban overly-aggressive players
Open-shut case in any court, Karen can't don't do jack shit

>Buy replica 4th gen 6B45 vest from Aliexpress
>Canadian customs hold it back for 33 days
>Finally release it
>They confiscated the inside lining
The absolute state of this nanny state

>>234453
>Can'tadian
sorry to hear about your disability, man

i sorta want to play airsoft again for the first time in like 10 years but cant decide whether i want to do a full cowboy larp or get a GBB SMG of some kind. i fully expect ill play 1 full game and then never do it again

>>234532
oh yea i guess i could get an AEG SMG too but i feel like AEGs are kinda boring

>>234453
that's sad

>Tokyo Marui master r-ACK!

>>234651
Funnily enough most trannies I see are HPA users

>>234532
>GBB SMG
This would be more fun, single shot cowboy stuff might get frustrating after a while. Get a VFC MP7.

>>234651
What happened to TM?

>>234746
>most trannies I see
I've never seen a tranny at an airsoft game, where do you live that you've seen multiple?

>>234789
>where do you live that you've seen multiple?
Must be an American thing I have only seen a tranny once in all my years and it was a young girl that was bald and identified as a boy.

HPA here at least is just a thing people who stay in the hobby longer than 1 year usually invest in. Doesn't matter if they are casual, speedsoft or milfatty

>>234268
Genuinely "people" here are too retarded to understand how it works so they're afraid of it.

>>234310
This is pretty bad poorfag cope and I've seen it numerous times. They also never say this to anyone's face but cry and shit themselves on faceberg groups about muh ebil HPA.

>>234791
>>234792
You just know they are standing in the corner in the safe zone reracking their gbbr a thousand times because nobody wants to talk to them

>>234793
From my experience it has mostly been stick thin faggots for some reason and obeasts in the middle of their gear journey. As in they aren't just fresh newbs but haven't yet gotten anything actually good so they see everything more accurate than their fucked up shitheap a personal sligh against them. I didn't see many GBBRs here. I would ironically want a GBBR myself but I've only had bad experiences with them and mid caps are such a huge force multiplier in airshit it's not even funny.

>>234794
I swapped out all my hpa engine guns (except my vss mancraft) and swapped to gbbr but I use hpa adapters with them. I get the recoil and I can still use full auto and compete because my mag count Is higher.

>>234795
I would love for some company to make a daytona gun because I'm not paying whatever the fuck they want for those fiddly pieces of shit. Or any of the other conversion kits people make. Sadly I've heard the E&L T191 is dogshit so there hasn't been any progress in this matter.

they should make airsoft guns that you have to blow into to shoot

>>234796
Not exactly the same I guess but there's the frog engineering guy that converts gbbrs to take his own AEG midcaps and it uses some hpa solution so the line comes out the grip. It's kinda pricy tho. I think it cost 300+ euro for a mws conversion. Though tbf you have to send it to him and he does it so that price does include labor

>>234798
That's one of the fiddly conversion kits I was talking about. I've seen a bunch of people complain about his mags because they're made out of cheap thin 3D resin so they're very easy to break. I haven't seen any opinions on how those kits actually work though. It's a much better option than a daytona because it uses OEM parts instead of their gay hop ups and buckings but it's not ideal.

>>234796
Probably because no one wants that faggot shit. Either use gbbrs as they're intended to be used or fuck off back to using aegs or hpa

>>234802
Did an HPA tapped GBBR fuck your mother? Or is there any other reason you're seething so hard?

>>234803
>wHo hUrT yOu???
You sound like a woman

>>234804
You sound like an assblasted faggot for overreacting like a bitch like that.

>>234802
It's okay anon let all your anger out. Maybe one day someone at the airsoft field will pity you enough and try to talk to you

>>234805
>>234807
>assblasted faggot samefagging
Pathetic

>>234809
>everyone i disagree with on 4chang is the same person

>>234809
Keep going I'm almost there

>>234796
keep an eye out for my work :)

>>234802
you're a faggot lmao

>>234802
If Planet Eclipse made an Emek in 6mm I'd run a GBBR

>AEG/HPA/GBBR shitflinging again
Do you people even play airsoft. Also springer master race

>>234885
yes, that's why I use an HPA'd GBBR.

>>234887
What model?

>>228063 (OP)
>Airsoft
Imagine LARPing with some plastic tacticool crap and going pew pew at each other with a toy like you're some kind of navy SEALs badasss. Cringiest shit ever. No thanks, I'll stick to my real guns like a man.

>>234893
Last I checked I couldn't shoot real guns at my friends for very long

Co2 cartridge chads never argue because we know we're the best

>>234888
we-tech because I like working on my airsoft guns and have access to tooling. wouldn't recommend the v2s to anyone not like me.

>>234888
This is my stuff. From top left to bottom
King arms vss with a mancraft engine in it.
CTM AP7 (AAP)
G&P MWS
DE N4 MWS
Mk23 (I don't like this kit I printed I'll have to try something else or just go back to using it as a sidearm)
KJW P226 in printed kit
Some random gold match hicapa I bought used. I want a different slide for it at some point.
WE Glock 17
AAP printed kit
AAP kit. Actually feeds from the m4 mag which I thought was pretty cool
Another AAP lol
WE Apache MP5 (i use a shorter barrel with some printed stabilizers and then no end cap it's so loud kek
AAP Lambda kit
Army Armament G36 WE clone from Begadi. I printed a new handguard for it.
AAP in a uzi kit
I also have a disassembled cyma svd for a project I haven't finished yet and 2 more AAP's in parts lel

>>234902
only thing you're missing is an aug or p90

>>234893
>thinks he's le cool badass larperator for shooting at steel and paper. Go live your oper8or dreams somewhere else, loser

>>234897
CO2 is the worst kind of gas replicas

>>234903
Idk if I wanted a bullpup I'd get a F2000. There is a MWS kit for it on Cults but eh I don't really want it enough to buy the parts to make it

>>234905
*teleports behind you*
*puts a co2 cartridge up your ass*

>>234894
turns out, the government provides a free opfor if you do it

Did see some guy with a GBBR AR a while back, I guess it had gas in the magazine like a pistol, and it was pretty sweet. Do they make any that are reliable; every single gas pistol I've fucked with starts taking a shit after like 5 games or so.

>>234940
Tokyo Marui MWS and VFC V3 ARs are your go tos

>>234941
>>234940
seconding these recommendations.

>>234941
Aren't the hop ups in the VFC's still trash? I saw a video by 4uad and the accuracy on it stock was terrible

>>234943
>a video by a new hopup bucking seller says the stock bucking they sell a replacement for is trash
I have no idea why they would say that

hi aldo

>>234943
Just got a new VFC AR last week. Gonna play with it next weekend. Got the 4UAD hop up chamber in my other VFC AR and I gotta say I'm not impressed. I'd say it's not that useful. It's a pain in the ass to adjust and it tended to readjust itself by shooting until I made the wheel more stiff to turn and now it's a pain in the ass to turn. Now I prefer the original adjustment wheel behind the handguard. Both of my ARs are retro with clamshell handguards so it's more convenient to just take of one half and turn, shoot, turn, shoot until the hop is set instead of having to take the mag out, locking the bolt back, putting a hex key through the ejection port and fiddling around to turn the adjustment wheel inside the barrel extension and having to repeat the process every time you want to make an adjustment. I's say the 4UAD hop chamber is only useful if you change the external barrel to a steel one on a URG-I or something and you lose the guide hop adjustment through the gas block.

>>234943
>4uad
Really nigga

>>234532
>>234789
my posts were from a while ago but anyway i thought about it some more. i'm not really excited playing airsoft in itself, because the whole "hose people down in the bushes with a plastic AEG" part is honestly quite boring and gay to me, and that was most of my experience in the past.

however i do miss plinking with my shitty GBB glock, and i miss handling authentic replicas in general. good news is that i have no real autistic obsession wrt any specific gun so i figured i could just get random used guns for cheap, play a few games with them and maybe fix them up a bit, then resell them for about the same price if and when i get bored

>Get a VFC MP7.
yeah thats one of the few guns i was interested in, mainly because of the build quality. i was also looking at the vorsk vmp-1 because its smaller and could double as a funky full auto sidearm for MED reasons, but it seems of dubious quality

the only gun i have a real autistic raifu type obsession with is probably the M14 (M39) EBR, but that'd have to be a 1000 euro AEG project and i'm like 90% sure i'd regret it. i even know its a pretty stupid gun IRL and also in airsoft but i still want it

>>235033
>however i do miss plinking with my shitty GBB glock, and i miss handling authentic replicas in general. good news is that i have no real autistic obsession wrt any specific gun so i figured i could just get random used guns for cheap, play a few games with them and maybe fix them up a bit, then resell them for about the same price if and when i get bored
oh yeah i meant to elaborate that i have essentially 0 desire to play with a normal AEG anymore. if its possible i hope to find a GBB/EBB only field in my area because playing with 30-40 capacity GBB against someone hosing down the range with a 500 capacity 2000RPM AEG kinda sucks

>>235034
just let those tards waste their ammo. I love when some aeg/hpa retard sprays hundreds of BBs in my direction when I'm behind a concrete wall lmao

>>235035
yeah but still, i think id rather feel like im larping a real scenario than playing against timmy who tuned his gearbox to fire beams of pure light. that said one of the reasons i wanted to get a schofield and larp as a cowboy was to clown on AEG players though

i may just have irrational hatred for highcap gamers ever since some jerkoff stole the highcap stanag that came with my gun back in 2013

any thoughts on how the next gen electric blowback guns feel to shoot? is it just an AEG with just some minor recoil, or do they also have less motor whine and so on? any performance worries?

i've been eyeing this thing as like a platform for either DMR or AR stuff

>>235034
Play at fields that do semi only. Lowers the gap a bit. Obviously you are still at a disadvantage, but it's not that bad.
>>235037
All EBB's suck. TM recoils are really overpriced. Recoil is non existent it's just the bolt going back and forth, they also come with the con of being made for jap fields so they are very underpowered and if you do a spring swap you will kill it. Take a look on YT where people build them. You are basically swapping out all the internals for something skirmishable.. . The only "good" ebb is BOLT, but they also come with their issues. They rattle so much you have to loctite every screw, and you can't use standard gears with them either. I think if you want a scar gbb the best currently is the Guns Modify one? But I'm not actually sure if they make both a L and H model. Otherwise VFC but that one isn't perfect either.

My chingchong Remington clone is only shooting like 410fps with .25s and I can't get much more than 70 or so feet with it. How much can I expect from a springer?

>>235050
>only 410
>only
>70 feet
lmao. shit hopup.

>>235073
Makes sense. The hop is mated to the outer barrel and I think the whole thing is canted slightly to the right. I'll have to do a full teardown and try to see if I can cam it or shim it with a level.

>>231385
The outer barrels on CYMA AKs are aluminum. You can weld up the pin slots and redrill them if they get loose.
>>230326
Is that airshit? My friends and I made an RPG-7 ages ago that used a thermobaric style "rocket" to hide CO2 shells + nerf footballs. It was cool because you could actually fire it with the faux rocket attached, then swap it out for another rocket. Most other airsoft RPG-7 must have the rocket removed to fire, and are then limited to shitty shower shells-- not something that can knock out a vehicle.

>>235080
Yeah Julien Cendie over at Reaper's House makes them out of steel in France, among other things.

People say HPA users are trannies, yet the biggest gbb community is filled with them or people that accept them
Interesting....

>>235207
Interesting. Now show the biggest HPA community.
Also hope that HRC trannies ACK! themselves.

i dont get the appeal of HPA

if you asked me what could be more immersion breaking than lugging around a big RC car battery in your gun, then i would have said lugging around an air tank on your back and attaching it to your gun by a tube

maybe it makes sense if you are doing a hellgun larp from wh40k

>>235238
A sewing machine is a lot more "immersion breaking" than a concealed air tank and a hose if you want to go with that angle

>>235238
The appeal of hpa is that it works.

>>235371
wheres the fun

>>235367
Having a hose attached is a lot more immersion breaking than a properly shimmed gearbox
>>235371
Funnily enough I see a lot of guys having problem with HPA. Even with MTWs

>>235376
>properly shimmed gearbox
lol
lmao
That still sounds like a sewing machine

>>235375
In going outside and playing airsoft. I guess I'm at the age in my life where I want to buy something, and have it work.
>>235376
It can't be worse than AEGs or gas blowback; sold a guy a TP22 and on his third outing it started having feed issues which is fucking wild. I personally spent nearly $400 on a Krytac and it's been an absolute nightmare for years, and I've had to do valves in all the mags for my GBB pistols multiple times. Meanwhile the guys who run MTWs seem to get consistent performance with them all the time and no weird issues like selector plate wear, sheared gears, burned out motors, disconnector issues or anything like that. Also I have an Axe 1 that I let sit in a pole barn for 4 years covered in paint, hooked it up to a tank, and started ramping ten balls a second, without any new lube. No leaks, fired flawlessly. The gamut of issues I've encountered on AEGs has been absolutely wild too, as well as having pretty damn good GBB pistols like G&Gs with cracked valves and deformed piston seals. I mean, if there's better manufacturers of AEGs and GBB please let me know. As of now our field is planning to stick Mechlabs units in all our rentals.

>>235385
And Empire is fucking garbage; if you have internal issues with an AEG you're gonna be fucking with it for four hours. If your gamma core leaks you slather it in white lithium grease, spray the frame with a fucking garden hose and shake it out, put your bolt back in, bob's your uncle.

>>235385
I had an HPA'd M16 I built myself and the only thing I ever had to do once I dialed the settings in was to refill the tank every so often. It was also extremely flexible because I could adjust my FPS before every game very easily, even more easily than a quick change spring. I also had a bunch of AEGs and a few GBBRs before that and they all had some absolutely retarded issue which should never even occur. Feeding issues despite being new guns, nozzles exploding, terrible trigger response and contacts burning out just to name a few. The only annoying thing about HPA is refilling the tanks if you can't do it a home. Other than that it was my best airshit purchase. Worked every time in every weather and was always consistent.

>>235387
That's what I'm saying. One of the biggest arguments I see against hpa in the thread is that it's for people who want an unfair advantage. I'd argue that HPA should be the standard like it is in paintball. I want airsofters to be able to drop a couple hundo on a gun and have it run for a million cycles with basic maintenance like you can in paintball.

HPA non GBBRs are for absolute faggots lmao

>>235389
If wanting a functional gun is for faggots then line up those cocks and I'll suck em all. I think airsofters are too willing to accept dogshit, are too forgiving for companies selling them completely unreliable trash.

>>235388
Airniggers seem to have an allergy to reliability or are just sour grapes because they can't afford them like this fag
>>235389
But then they go on to buy 5 shitty guns instead of 1 good one and piss and shit themselves about pay to win and other unfair advantages. All the while forgetting an HPA'd gun is so much more flexible than an AEG. In an ideal world someone would make a proper recoil kit for HPA but as it is now I'd rather have a reliable gun I can rely on every single time I go out to play instead of something arguably more fun but not as reliable.

>>235375
>wheres the fun
I plug in hose on my WE gbb mp5 drum mag now I can fire full auto and make loud noise and there's recoil.
How's that not fun

>>235391
They make recoil guns for those guys though, they're called Tiberius Arms/First Strike. And they're good.

the classic cope
>ur poor!
cope harder with your microswitch triggers lmao

paintball players coming into airsoft are like californians moving to any other state. your "sport" is stagnant as fuck despite a gorillion dollars being pumped into it for 50 years and you've learned nothing.

>>235395
>petty faggot doesnt even directly reply
Seems like I struck a nerve

get owned faggot lmao

>>235396
I dunno dude, I just feel like I should expect a product I pay for to function without endless tinkering. If reliable guns are what killed paintball then this world doesn't make any sense.

>>235396
>>235399

>>235401
What was the lesson then; sell cheap shit that doesn't work because people will buy it anyway? I mean, tbf people buy Anderson and PSA so it's not far fetched.

>>235385
>pretty damn good GBB pistols like G&Gs
Lol, lmao. Buy TM or VFC and their offshoot brands and you'll be fine. G&Gs as gbbs are dogshit

>>235393
No realistic manual of arms therefore no fun.

>>235393
you make a good point, as does the other anon who has accurately surmised that everything in airshit is airshit and breaks constantly

i deliberately made a provocative post in order to stoke the fires of conversation and now i sorta want a HPA GBA

>>235412
>i deliberately made a provocative post in order to stoke the fires of conversation and now i sorta want a HPA GBA
no idea why i wrote GBA i meant GBB. i dont want a gas blow ass, i want a gas blow back

gas blow ass lmfao

bringing my gameboy advance

What's the appeal of using GBBRs with HPA adapters? Seems lane to me. Why don't you want to have a realistic manual of arms?

>>235413
>i dont want a gas blow ass
But anon that's what all GBBs do at some point. Jokes aside I would like a proper HPA GBB that isn't a hackjob like a daytona or those frog engineering kits but it is what it is.

>>235435
I don't want to maintain gas mags, they suck for full auto, cooldown is annoying and varying performance for every shot because there's less gas in the chamber.
Besides that I just don't really care about muh realism, just the illusion of it. Like how people play Battlefield instead of Squad.
besides I don't understand being so pissy about it. Like going to a normal Sunday game and acting assblasted because other people aren't propane sniffers like you is just pathetic

>>235435
>adapters
gay
>conversion kits
based

>>235438
What is hack about daytona? I've had two of them and I'm looking to make my own conversion kit after experiencing all the kits I could find in the last 10 years. What would you be looking for? A GBBR built from the ground up for HPA? Probably beyond what I can do but I'm curious.

>>235441
>I don't want to maintain gas mags
What's there to maintain. I have never had a leaky mag
>they suck for full auto
auto is gay and retarded but some retards like wasting BBs
>muh performance
Airsoft is about having fun. It's pathetic how some "people" come to airsoft to "win"

>>235446
>A GBBR built from the ground up for HPA?
Something like Tippmann but not shit

>>235446
Don't Daytonas suck? Know a couple of guys who had them and they hated them.

imagine not just throwing bbs

what's that incredibly expensive AR AEG that has high recoil and doesn't work like a regular AEG and sounds like sex?
I remember seeing a video of it but I can't remember what it was.

>>235455
DAS GBLS?

>>235451
They're just too expensive for how many quirks they have. Tommybuilt type shit. Sure they offer kits for some guns that don't have good GBBRs to be host to HPA for but the break-in period on top of the particular regulator+hose setup I had to put together to get it to work made me not like it. For the price they shouldn't have so many problems. The people who are fans of them are evangelical about it and typically don't have much xp with any other system.

>>235450
I wanted one before they discontinued it. Seemed like it would be a bit more robust but I guess they didn't believe in it.

>>235453
Let me guess, you need more?

>>235451
Oh and to add to my complaints about DG they had a lot of bolt bounce and the AKs were a nightmare to get mags for. The body and the DG feed tube made for the most picky princesses to please.

>>235456
oh yes that's it.
those look pretty fun to use

Closest to a airsoft tec9 we will ever get

>>235446
>What is hack about daytona?
Their stupid proprietary buckings for one. Also break in period and fifty additional mods so the gun actually functions correctly which are obviously additionally priced if you order from the jews directly.
>What would you be looking for?
A conversion kit that's drop in and reversible so no drilling in any of the parts of the gun. Also it has to use standard AEG mags, no proprietary bullshit. I don't care about shit like a working bolt catch but if it's there and working then it's a nice bonus.
>>235449
>auto is gay and retarded but some retards like wasting BBs
>proceeds to say airsoft is about having fun right in the next sentence
If this isn't a badly thought out cope then I don't know what else is.
>>235451
>Know a couple of guys who had them and they hated them.
I've seen three daytonas so far and all have been absolute trash. Jamming constantly with worse performance than a bone stock plastic cyma. Two were converted by their owners but one was done a shop so there is no cope of them being improperly built.

>>235462
You know there's an actual airsoft Tec-9 right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvol6WzJbNM

>>235464
>What would you be looking for?
>A conversion kit that's drop in and reversible so no drilling in any of the parts of the gun. Also it has to use standard AEG mags, no proprietary bullshit. I don't care about shit like a working bolt catch but if it's there and working then it's a nice bonus.
This is what I'm looking to make.

>>235464
>spraying and praying is fun
kys, nigger

>>235466
Then I unironically hope you actually succeed. I'd be willing to put down some dosh if it's any good. I'd even go as far as having it shipped to yurop since I'm assuming you're a burgerstani.
>>235469
What a great retort you coping retard.

>>235404
Sheesh. I guess if you spend $400 on a pistol it'll probably end up working at that point. Makes sense though. Shop has a VFC Glock then, I'll try running a burndown with it and see how far it gets.

>>235450
First Strike

>>235469
Suppressive fire is an important part of fire and movement tactics.

>>235534
Ehhh, not when you're spamming 100-200 rounds every other minute. It's gamist bullshit pretending to be legit military skills, like that one wargame where a military officer used motorbike couriers, but because it was a simulation, let them travel at the speed of light because a speed wasn't listed.
Are you the type of faggot who "accidentally" wears the other team's colors too, and pretends you're somehow smarter for doing so?

>>235462
Kingdom Technology KG-9, RWA KG-9, Echo1 GAT - a GBB and two AEG replicas that already exist without needing to resort to what is admittedly the least retarded-looking AEG-to-AAP mag adapter I've ever seen, but still doesn't look anywhere close to a Tec-9

If you get 100+ bbs in a mag I want to take 10 bbs before I am actually "hit"

>>235532
Stock TM pistols are the best. I don't know why people buy anything else. Poor?

how do you resist buying something really stupid

ive been trying to fight the urge for over a week now

>>235721
ok just typing this out caused me to suffer some extreme episodes of boy math
>only rifle i always prefer to pick in vidya
>can easily afford to buy it like 10 times over and once i buy it i'll have it forever and won't need to buy it
>tall enough to actually handle the very kino long version
fuck me. basically the main reason for me to not to buy it is because i have a hard time maintaining the actual sport as a hobby

>>235722
of course the other reason is that i might not want to get it is because i might instead want to get the TRVE m14 for the black hawk down experience

>>235722
heavy

>>235724
im a big guy

>>235724
>>235726
though you're right that it contributes to it being slow to move around with it, which makes it less fun to play with. but i generally like heavier guns and idk if i care that much about "winning" at this point. if i pick up an airsoft gun and immediately feel like it's a toy then it kills all my enjoyment, win or lose

>>235532
>>235607
My bad, I didn't know this glock at the shop wasn't a VFC. Actually I still have no idea who makes the fucking thing, I'll have to find the box. It's $430 MSRP though. And actually TMs are a lot more reasonable than I thought, only like $160 or so. Apparently the Elite Force glocks are supposed to be VFC derivative though and those things are pretty fucking garbage so, who the fuck makes a gun that's good if not them? Also apparently the TMs get chewed up just from usage because the plastic slides wear out. I know to stay away from ASG and I'm not super impressed with Elite Force, who's left? Vorsks seem fun but are they expensive because they're good or expensive because airsofters will buy bullshit?

>>235727
not trying to discourage you from getting it. that's just the biggest problem with it.

>>235729
oh yeah i didn't take it as discouragement. though i don't view it as a problem as much as pushing the whole "larp vs actual enjoyment" thing to its very edge. but yeah i like heavier replicas and for me something like 3kg is about perfect for a rifle, but the M14 EBR is 50% more than that lol

probably even the bigger issue is the length though, assuming i go for the long version. i briefly tried a normal M14 and it was REALLY long, like "can't take it indoors" long and "scary to walk around trees with" long. i could always go for the short version but i think i would regret it due to autism

>>235728
>$430
That one is probably the GHK Gen 3 Glock 17 with the steel slide.

>>235731
Is it any good?

>>235735
Not very from what I've seen. They stopped making Glocks with steel slides and now the newest GHK Glock 45 is already a "V2"

best g33/g43 replica?

A noob here
I was offered Tokyo marui scar h for 130 bucks. This would be my first gun
Seller told me the issues
>Broken button on stock
>Charging handle broke off
>It will keep firing if you pull the trigger even when no bbs are present.
>Needs new batteries
Price is good, like 1/7 to 1/9th of the local price, but I'm worried about the issued. Also I get 5 mags to sweaten the deal. It shoots at 90 m/s, but he says it's enough for outdoor fields
Should I do it?

>>235722
>basically the main reason for me to not to buy it is because i have a hard time maintaining the actual sport as a hobby
I've been trying to get back into airshit for the past year or so but still haven't bought a gun. I absolutely hate if you want to have something competent it has to have a V2 or V3 gearbox and standard AK or AR hop ups. Don't get me started on the bullshit that is GBBs.

>>235812
git gud

>>235808
i really haven't played airsoft as probably most others here have but there's some wisdom i heard over a decade ago: it's better to buy a cheap, usable gun at first, screw around with it, then after that you'll have a better idea of what you want and how to take care of it. and that old gun can stay as a backup for emergencies or given to a needy child. i'd just make sure it shoots fine and the issues are just cosmetic

>It will keep firing if you pull the trigger even when no bbs are present.
isnt this standard for replicas that aren't EBBs or GBBs anyway?

the main reason i wouldn't get it is if you really would rather have something else. if you actually want something like an MP5 because you love MP5s in games, movies, whatever then it's probably better to just save your money for that instead.

>>235812
oh yeah that reminds me that i'm not sure if i could even feasibly upgrade the M14 EBR if i got it. i guess the G&G M14 already shoots at 1.6ish joule anyway, so maybe i could get away with not touching the gearbox. i was hoping to get it to 2J though

>>235827
actually i don't really know if i need to upgrade for bigger FPS anyway. i've stuck with stock performance thus far

>>235827
>Buy a cheap, usable gun
I mean, it's cheap. If buying new the only thing cheaper would be a springer shotgun.
It is an Ebb.
I don't have any particular gun preferences, although I would prefer something more original than m4 or ak

>>235827
the only worthwhile M14 is the G&G. TM spec ones suck and have more proprietary parts and WE GBBR one is shit no matter how much money you sink into it. G&G at least takes AUG hop units unlike the TM/CYMA ones that use a proprietary garbage hop unit

>>235808
I hate NGRS

>>235808
I love NGRS!

>>235827
I feel like the reason the common wisdom is like this is that spending more money on airsoft doesn't guarantee better quality

>>235850
depends on a lot of things. Some companies charge out the ass for some replicas just because they're the only ones making them.

>>235854
name 3

>>235865
Most of ARES stuff

>only activity this place gets is when people shitfling about HPA/AEG/GBB
Sad!

>>236098
recession indicator

seems anecdotal but airsoft popularity seems pretty low right now. maybe a good time to invest in used airsoft and then cash in when cheeto in chief outlaws digital media

>Sold my AK-74M
>OKP-7 sights drop on Aliexpress week later
AAAHH

>>236267
Now I'll look like a dumbass mounting it to my shotgun.

Extreme know nothing question,

Are there any dirt cheap spring pistols out there with built-in tracer lights?

I mean dirt, dirt cheap.

>>236285
No, because there isn't a market for retards that want a Springer with a tracer built in.

>>236287
Any other dirt cheap options?

I just wanna plink squirrels off my bird feeders in the evening man.

>>236294
I mean if you can find a Springer with 14mm thread you could buy a tracer for it. But sprinters are really shit. They don't reach far and poor accuracy

What I'd get Is a nbb like a Mk23 cheapest is the STTI/ASG one, and then a tracer for it. Probably the cheapest and somewhat viable

i hadnt held a marui gun for like 10 years but i picked up one of their more recent ones today and was surprised to find out it didnt actually feel like a creaky plastic kinda toy and instead it was very solid (an EBB mp5)

its also a bit funny that cyma used to be absolute scam shit but now is apparently quite good but still affordable. again, a lot better build quality than what i've known to experience with airshit in the past. makes me wonder if it's even worth paying for the 100% markup to get something from a dedicated build quality focused manufacturer like G&G anymore

>>236310
G&G fell off hard

>>236328
yeah i've been trying to unlearn my habit of mentally filtering away anything that isnt a "safe" brand from the old days. its pretty cool that you can now get a decent AEG for less than 200 even with inflation. its much easier to justify buying random guns for the fuck of it

i'm now wondering how something like a G&G rifle can be twice as expensive vs a cyma equivalent. i'm sure the quality can be a bit better in some respects at least, but 2x more expensive seems kinda wild.

>old gun is busted and want to get something new
>not sure what i would enjoy the most
>decide to scientifically determine it by checking what gun i used the most in bf4 and bf3, figure it's going to be one of the AKs, or maybe the SKS or some other DMR
>actually m249 by a wide margin
well shit

>>236374
time to start lifing boy
or get a good harness

>>236302
>What I'd get Is a nbb like a Mk23 cheapest is the STTI/ASG one
meh, mk23 has a wierd thread, you'd have to get a tracer for just that, and I doubt it would work with anything else

>>236285
>>236287
There's hardly ANYTHING with a tracer built-in, much less dirt cheap. Best cheap-ass bet is to buy a cheap springer, a cheap tracer unit, then macguyver a solution to mount the tracer to the end of the pistol.

>>>236389
True, but if he has a 3d printer he could print a thread adapter. But yea I forgot it's 16mm ccw
>>236395
Only thing I know is there are some cyma m4 and aks that has built in tracer in the hop up.

>>236382
>lifting
already do but i'd expect lugging around an m249 requires a specific kind of muscle-cardio health you can only really gain by... lugging around an m249. not that lifting doesn't help. the idea of firing an m249 one-handed in a sea of AR-15s is admittedly pretty cool

its always been a curious quirk of this "sport" that there are a lot of fatasses and emaciated skellingtons doing it. you'd think if you are going to spend 3 hours fucking around with airsoft maintenance that you could afford to hit the gym 3 hours a week too

>>236478
>you'd think if you are going to spend 3 hours fucking around with airsoft maintenance that you could afford to hit the gym 3 hours a week too
You'd think if you're regularly going to be running around with a toy gun then you'd get into shape at least a little bit. Then I remember how 75% of retards playing just sit on their asses the whole games or are larporators slowly moving around corners only to get dunked on by someone actually flanking.

>>236479
yeah lol. but to be fair, i would agree the larping part is more fun than the actual sport

>get dunked on by someone actually flanking
i had to make an effort not to flank as much because it started feeling a bit cheesy to always just walk behind the enemy line and one tap everyone on my way through

>>236480
>i would agree the larping part is more fun than the actual sport
Depends. When I still played I liked shitting on mall ninjas with their gay heavy loadouts trying to larporate with my basic bitch M16A1 and 80s GI loadout by being extremely mobile.
>>236480
>i had to make an effort not to flank as much because it started feeling a bit cheesy to always just walk behind the enemy line and one tap everyone on my way through
That reminds me I got accused several times of cheating by not starting from our spawn but instead supposedly several meters in front of our spawn to get to the center of the field faster. Fat fucks on the other teams could not comprehend there's a faster movement speed than an awkward waddle.

>>236481
>gay heavy loadouts
yeah i can't really get into the mindset of wearing a metal helmet or a plate carrier in airsoft. for some reason it just rubs me the wrong way, even though i love stuff like real steel type guns and GBBs. something more "functional" like pic related makes more sense to me.

i do also appreciate a deliberate setup like wearing vietnam GI gear. maybe it's because it's actually closer to actual historical RP rather than just putting on random tacticool shit for your own donut steel mall ninja setup

>>236483
>i can't really get into the mindset of wearing a metal helmet or a plate carrier in airsoft
I don't understand it either. I don't find it fun nor does it have any functional merit to itself.
This was my setup. Ended up with HPGay because I wanted something reliable and versatile for different fields. Other than that it was just lighweight tropical BDU, ALICE webbing with a buttpack and the HPA tank in it and a plastic "training" PASGT. Probably the most fun loadout I had.

>>236484
>classic m16 with no tacticool shit on it
hell yeah

probably the only AR-15 i would want to get at this point would be something like that, except with the grenade launcher handguard setup

>>236483
>carries 16 AEG mags for gay pray and spray
What a fag

>>236499
surely they're all realcaps

>>236484
>80s US kit
>fucks it up with fag mask, goggles and hose
Why even bother?

>>236501
Never met a single AEG user that used realcaps except for NGRS users

>>236485
I was thinking about a GBB VFC M16A2 if I were to get back to playing but I'm still not convinced about GBBRs.
>>236499
>>236502
Stay mad and poor samefag.

>>236508
>GBB VFC M16A2 if I were to get back to playing
yeah i've thought about GBBs a lot more recently and i've thought about making the switch myself. i'm curious if it would substantially change how it feels to play the game (for the better)

imo GBBs are also fun enough that i've thought about getting one for plinking for trips and stuff. it's not too hard to get a real gun here but i think i'd rather hand a GBBR to a dumbfuck friend than a real rifle

i think airsoft is just not very fun to play unless i love spending time with my gear. just picking up a random plastic AEG and spraying at stuff does basically nothing for me in itself

>>236513
>i'm curious if it would substantially change how it feels to play the game (for the better)
If you like the larp aspect then probably. If you want to frag fat or bony losers like I do then probably not. Magazine capacity is a really big limiting factor as is cooldown and temperature tolerance.
>just picking up a random plastic AEG and spraying at stuff does basically nothing for me in itself
Oh yeah absolutely. I especially hate the sewing machine noise and lack of feedback. HPGay also has no feedback but in comparison "it just werks" and you can also actually suppress HPA guns. AEGs are a good entry way into airshit to see if it's actually something you like but if you want fun you pick GBBs and if you want efficiency you go with HPGay. Now of course you can also have a very good AEG on par with an HPA gun but HPA is still less finnicky and less prone to breaking than even the best AEG.

>>236508
>can't afford a good gbbr so he resorts to using HPA
Lol, lmao

>>236502
I feel like the only reason you are here is so you can use your no no words and be contrarian for the sake of it. You type like the average pol fag, now go back to your containment board, and let the adults talk about our toy guns

>>236519
What's here to discuss here? Why even bother doing an impression if you'll farb it up? Just stick to doing regular normalfag airshit. Do it right or don't do it at all

>>236522
He was talking about his setup and all you contributed was hurr durr hpa gay like a 12 year old. Did your parents not love you enough for you to be the way you are?

>>236523
It is gay. Learn to read, retard. Do it right or don't do it at all

you claim to run an authentic 80s GI ensemble, yet your gun fires 6mm bbs instead of 5.56mm NATO. curious!

>>236527
>le it's just airsoft xD
Kys, normalniggers should have been gatekept

>>236526
This nigga definitely stands alone in the staging area because nobody wants to talk to him. There's no way you live any kind of meaningful live being this bitter

>all the fields in my new area have a 1.4J limit or less
surprising but quite based actually

>>236612
For what class?

>>236374
If you've got the funds to ball out, VFC 249 + HPA rig is apparently a super-fun machinegunner setup
Even if you're just running the tapedeck mags and not converting it to feed from a bottom-mounted box, it's still solidly effective according to those I've talked to who run the things, both because the tapedeck mags are a very lightweight way to carry a lot of ammo and because the noise a blowback machinegun puts out intimidates people a lot more effectively than the usual whir-popping of an AEG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwj6QbtjU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_AHHP_uhac
>>236522
(You) are a member of the saddest airsoft demographic of all: retards who think farb kit actually matters outside of hardcore re-enactment events
We're playing BB wars, who the fuck cares, if some kid at a pick-up game tossed a modern repro Chicom and rice hat over his modern civvie clothes while wielding an AKS-74U and said he was LARPing as a Viet Cong I'd be like "haha yeah you are go get 'em tiger" not "KILL YOURSELF FOR NOT WEARING GLORIOUS HISTORICALLY-ACCURATE VIETNAM ATTIRE AND WIELDING REPLICA OF HISTORICAL TYPE 56 RIFLE YOU BRING DISHONOR ON FAMILY"
take your attention and fuck off back to the moldy basement you crawled out of

>>236637
Make me, nigger. I'll shit on normalfags for not putting any effort in doing anything

>>236612
For all classes? Means the different roles don't really serve a purpose, but if it fits the terrain then whatever. I like when fields require you to use a sidearm within a certain distance.

>>235834
This is from like 5 days ago but I thought the G&G one has more proprietary parts? I'd like to get the G&G one but the only one I can find costs twice as much as the Cyma (the equivalent of 600 bucks vs the Cyma being 300)

I don't really know how substantial the difference is between the two, but at that price difference I could get the Cyma one and have another 300 set aside for replacement parts. And I figured it'd be easier to find parts for the Cyma one too since it's a TM clone and a more popular brand.

I'd like to get the best version of the gun I can find but at that kind of price increase vs the Cyma it had better be next to perfect

Also it kinda pisses me off how the two G&G options are "too short" and "too long" lol

>>236646
There's no such thing as paying once in airsoft. No matter how much you spend you'll have to buy something anyway
Also the only proper M14 is with a 24" barrel

>>236649
Yeah that's what I was getting at. It feels pretty stupid to pay an extra 300 dollars and still end up with something that has a chance of having various issues and breaking parts that I would need spend extra money to fix. And finding G&G parts seems difficult.

I guess really it would come down to whether the whole Cyma gun is fundamentally made of such shit pot metal compared to the G&G one that it would be worth spending double price for it. I can't find either locally but I was thinking of ordering both and documenting the differences side by side

>Also the only proper M14 is with a 24" barrel
I think the gun that these airsoft replicas are trying to copy was the original Mk 14 Mod 0, which was specifically given a 18" barrel for muh high speed low drag SOCOM operations. But I think the G&G short one is even shorter than that

>>236649
>>236652
>Also the only proper M14 is with a 24" barrel
Oh nevermind I think you were saying that only the classic M14 with the wooden stock and Fortunate Son playing in the background is worth considering

>>236638
You don't even play airshit

>>236728
Stop giving that faggot (you)s just ignore his bait

>>236484
Love it, I miss my TM M16A2. I may have to get another long boi M16 soooon

>>236801
I loved the palpable seethe from speedniggers and other losers who thought you can't go into buildings and do well with this musket.

How come there are no airsoft USP Experts or Elites? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I don't think anyone's making any decent GBB Tacticals at this point either for that matter. The one KWA made is discontinued and the crappy Umarex one isn't even really a Tactical outside of the cheap threaded barrel.

>>236857
Nobody cares. All I want is a Match. Easiest W for Marui and they made some Resident Evil faggot shit USP

>>236861
Why not the KWA Match?

>>236865
KWA sucks

>Mail my gun and charger in advance for the airsoft game
>Arrive by plane and set up charger
>Charger is completely dead
RIP Imax B6AC 06.06.2012-07.05.25

>>236637
>If you've got the funds to ball out, VFC 249 + HPA rig is apparently a super-fun machinegunner setup
that actually sounds very enticing. i love GBBs but the limited capacity and fucking around with the gas sucks when everyone else has AEGs. i could also hide the air line under an ammo belt lol

i assume the whole ordeal would cost zillions though lol

>>236878
>i love GBBs but the limited capacity and fucking around with the gas sucks when everyone else has AEGs.
to clarify i mean i've been wary of fielding a GBBR as a main gun vs AEGs, but a HPA'd GBB machine gun seems like it would be fairly well matched with them

>>236857
The literal only USP Tactical available that isn't KWC's bullshit and isn't just a pricey, hard-to-find slide kit for a TM at the moment is SRC's TM-clone USP Tactical; it's solid, kicks like a mule, and I love it despite it lacking proper trades, but sourcing replacement parts for the TM USP9 system beyond slides and barrels is a fucking nightmare (the only sources of replacement triggers on the market are like, one or two Canadian retailers who sell SRC units, for example)
I hope someone eventually gets around to it, but it's been over half a decade since the TM USP dropped and all I ever see are slides and barrels so it might just be a case where your only real option is to buy SRC triggers if something causes it to snap
>>236878
>>236881
Videos I linked cover it; it's pricey (XE recommendation of the gun + three 3-packs of cassette mags runs $850USD at time of upload, not including the one-time cost of getting an HPA tank, reg, line and fittings to attach to the thing if you don't have them already), and it requires a smidge of work (chief among them being something to slow BBs down before they're fired out of the barrel, since a problem typical of some open-bolts is that the BB never stops moving, causing lots of unwanted spin on the BB in random directions; the second video has the superior solution of slightly modifying the metal collar of a Maple Leaf bucking to be a smidge tighter, IIRC), but it seems like an absolute blast and I'd probably invest in it myself if I had a bit more cash to throw around

>>236869
How come?

>>236812
The musket is a bona fide classic. I was at an indoor arena yesterday and saw a azn dude with an AK74 full size/side folder stock shreddin it up.

>>236952
Always brings a smile to me seeing a kid trying to pack his full length M16 into his backpack in an inconspicuous way.

the japanese are doing all kinds of cool gbb mods like stronger trigger springs, mag limiters, weight mods. I wish they compiled all their cool mods and hacks into one place I could read them.

>>236941
not a reputable brand. Everything they make has a better alternative made by another company

Anyone here have a WE V3? I was considering the xm177. Yes I know VFC makes one but it costs double for both gun and mags, and parts are easier to get for WE. I just want to know if the V3 version is gud or not

>>237035
Just get the VFC, man. You'll regret buying the WE

>>237043
Why? It's the same on leddit. Someone ask about x they say it's bad buy y, you ask them have you ever tried or owned x? And the answer is always no. It's just parroting something because another person said it

>>237035
>>237047
i agree people should disclose if they actually have real experience with something. that said it's very rare to find a single person that has bought a specific gun that's known to have a bad reputation, so people just repeat what they've heard

sometimes you can order guns from both manufacturers to see which one you like more (like in terms of build quality and so on), and return whichever one you don't, but i don't know if you could really meaningfully test a gas gun and still return it

>>237035
for the nothing it's worth the bolt change looks good but the mag change seems like a good direction.
>>237054
pic related

>>237047
Because WE is a low-tier brand. The only thing I'd recommend from them is the Desert Eagle. Had 3 of their ARs in the past and all had problems. The design itself is flawed. The only thing addressed in the V3 is the bolt catch mechanism which is basically the TM Zet system but made by WE with shittier materials. The trigger group is the same shit that breaks. You might think that it's JuSt aS gOoD but it isn't. You'll end up buying RA tech "upgrade" parts and end up getting fed up with it and selling it for a low price because no one wants a used WE AR.

>>237058
I have a WE Apache I quite like it desu, but yea I heard a lot of mixed things about WE which is why I asked but I can't imagine it is as bad as something like Golden Eagle WA clones

>>237058
I also had a WE M16A3 which killed it's hammer twice over the span of something like 500 BBs. Then I bought a RA Tech steel trigger and BCG and it completely fucked itself to death so I sold it for peanuts.

>>236634
>>236642
all classes. all these arenas were indoors or close range outdoors. i did find some weapon class based arenas though they are rarer and farther away.

i mainly thought it was cool to find so many arenas and events with a low FPS limit because it means i can buy and field whatever gun i feel like and not get caught up in optimizing its performance

>magazines are proprietary, cost 100% more and apparently made in quantities of 5 so they aren't available anyway outside taiwan or some shit
>muzzle is a load bearing component and also proprietary, and it requires a 40 dollar replacement component to so it accepts different standardized parts (which they could have just as well shipped in lieu of the original component that doesn't)
i can understand marking up your guns by like 50% for the fuck of it but why does G&G need to also inconvenience their customers with this nickle and dime shit constantly

>>237035
VFC V3 is far superior in virtually every way, from a more robust set of internals to much better (and cheap) magazines
VFC XM + NPAS + maybe inner barrel and bucking is your best bet, costs a smidge more up front but the performance benefits mean you're ultimately going to be spending less than trying to bring a WE anywhere near similar performance

>>237203
Maybe VFC ARs are nicer than WEs, but VFC in general get too much credit. They still make wonky designs out of chinesium, I have two VFC pistols, the USP, which I had to modify to stop it ejecting the barrel out the front of the slide, and the PPK/S which is poorly designed and executed. But they both look the fucking tits, and I think a lot of people give them a pass just for looking good.

>thread is 3 months old
This place is dead

>>237246
Thank gookmoot for deleting /asp/

Hey CHUDS,

If you choose to show up at an event in full SS kit, understand that you're not just playing dress-up—you’re painting a giant target on your back and everyone’s trigger finger gets a little itchier. Nobody cares if you think it’s “historical” or “just for aesthetics,” because the second you goose-step into spawn with your sad little feldgrau cosplay and bone-white skull patches, you become open season. You will get overshot. You will get mag-dumped. And no, nobody’s going to “check the rules” or feel bad when you’re flopping on the ground screaming about calling your hit. This community is done pretending to tolerate fascist LARPing under the paper-thin excuse of “reenactment.” You wanted to be the bad guy, so don’t cry when everyone else decides to LARP as the partisans, the Soviets, the Free French, or your ancestors’ worst nightmares. If you get lit up before you even reach cover, that’s not a violation—that’s performance art.

>>237257
Sick bait post bro. Seriously though redditors will be redditors. There's a team of rusfor larpers with Z patches and st George ribbons near me and nobody gives a shit.
reddit isn't real life

>>237246
I prefer the slowness. there's only one retard autist so far.

>>237246
what happened to airsoft

>>237257
>zigger redditor complains about ebil nazis
Nazis did nothing wrong and anglos fought the wrong side

>>237258
I've seen people talking shit about unironic commie larpers more than the rare muh nahtzee getup here. This was something around 2019 so way before the second banan chimpout.

>>237265
nothing it's just that nobody knows this board exists

im continuously taken aback by how many of these airsoft youtubers are obese or at least fat. who you larping, paul blart??

>>237258
appreciate it, thank chat nggt. As for the content of the post yeah, this faggotry has been circulating on r/acj for a year now with troons also
>>237268
Preach. I grew up around Slavic immigrants(Russians and Ukrainians mostly) and they have by far been behaving like total niggers, except maybe Belarusians but I didn't see that many.
>>237269
Things haven't changed in the slightest. Went to a local field and there were a queer faggot and a ratnik kit kid playing on the same team.

blog time. i'm this anon
>>235033
>>237191
i've been trying to figure out this purchase since it's been difficult to even find the damn thing anywhere in my area, even in neighboring countries here in yurop, and even when it's in stock it's been like 600 euros either way. and i also wasn't able to find ANY magazines for it. i was basically planning on fixing up my old AEG and just playing around with it for a while before i decide what i want to do, like maybe all i wanna do is buy some GBBs and fuck around with it, and then go play some CQB matches with it or something.

anyway then some redditor pointed out a website that lets you scan the entire EU area for stuff, and i found the G&G EBR at like 30% of its usual price, and the same place also has some (overpriced) magazines for it. so i feel like i have to buy it now. i also had some decision paralysis regarding whether to get the long or the short version, but they only have the long version so i guess i had that decision made for me. oh well, the long one looks cooler anyway

wish me luck bros imma send it. hopefully i wont totally play 1 game with it and give up

>>237322
oh yeah and i do have 1 question regarding this: is it at all suspicious that they might have a gun on such a sale? like if 3 people already returned it due to bad performance or something? it's a reputable shop though.

not that i cant return it but itd be annoying

>>237257
I love snappy dressers. But he's not dressed that snappily,

>>237217
Won't get any disagreements from me on their pistols - it seems they can't make one of those without it needing some work, Glocks notwithstanding - but their rifles are significantly better on average and I haven't really heard any similar complaints about even the cheapest ARs (ex. their Olympic Arms two-mag 7" SBR, which is apparently regarded as one of the best ways to get into GBBRs)
>>237257
vidrel is all there really is to say on photo and comments alike
>>237322
What store is it? Odd are you can probably look up if other people have used said store and find out if it's a scam through that, which I'd do if I saw a store conveniently offering a significant discount on something I'm looking for

>>237337
powair6. i see a lot of people vouching for them though. i doubt it's a straight up scam but i worry it's on clearance for a reason, such as returns due to bad QC or something. i expect i'll need to at least chrono it and open it up to confirm it's not messed up in any weird way.

i'm still contemplating whether to even bother picking up the midcap magazines or not. charging 150 euros for 4 AEG magazines is some wacky shit. you can almost pick up a cyma M14 for the price of 4 metal boxes with a spring in them lol

>>237322
>website that lets you scan the entire EU area for stuff
I use this to find shit https://www.airsoftdb.com/
Although I have several sites bookmarked and often looke manually through them to check what they currently have.
>>237338
>powair6
It's fine. I've heard people ordered stuff from there and didn't have any issues.
>charging 150 euros for 4 AEG magazines
G&G M14 magazines are retarded expensive. t. know because I wanted to build an M21 back when.

>>237345
>G&G M14 magazines are retarded expensive. t. know because I wanted to build an M21 back when.
yeah i ended up ordering just 2 for now, mainly so i don't have to rely (totally) on the hicap. i'll just have to pull out my speedloader a lot i guess

still not a 100% sure if the long barrel will work out. hopefully it doesn't make peeking feel like shit and or make it difficult to traverse certain areas. the short version looked more manageable for running around. i think i just got pissed off by it using the wrong flash hider (even cyma got it right baka). oh well. not every gun has to do CQB

i did recently pick up a long m14 again for the first time in a long time, and it was much shorter than i remembered. i expected it to be much longer based on the videos i've been watching recently. it wasn't short obviously but like "oh yeah this seems about right". so maybe there's hope for me yet

>>237345
>https://www.airsoftdb.com/
also yeah thats what i used, incredibly useful website

>>237346
>still not a 100% sure if the long barrel will work out
I'm this guy
>>236484
It's perfectly doable albeit inconvenient at times. I still believe what matters more is how you play although a convenient gun is a good power multiplier.

>>237348
yeah i have a rifle with a similar length to an M16 (a long LR300) and i don't think i have really felt like the barrel gets in the way of playing. the bigger problem was the stock getting in the way, so i often played with it folded. thankfully the EBR has an adjustable stock

honestly i really think i've recently gotten used to thinking that these guns are much bigger because i see them next to short skinny asian dudes on youtube. meanwhile your m16 doesn't look too long for you at all, evidently because you're a decently tall and broad dude

>>237359
>the bigger problem was the stock getting in the way
Just short stock it.
>you're a decently tall and broad dude
Not at all. I'm the average 180 cm and that particular BDU was a bit baggy on me.

>>237362
>Just short stock it.
i guess i could but i think the LR300 is too based in its unaltered form. really it's not that annoying, it's just easier to spray with it when the stock is folded
>Not at all. I'm the average 180 cm and that particular BDU was a bit baggy on me
the whole look looks good. kinda getting a post-nuclear-exchange mopp suit vibe with the mask on

anyway i was going to still order the short version just to have some point of comparison. i briefly mocked up the long version and it really is pushing the edge of what feels sensible. it's like a good 25% longer than a full length assault rifle lol

>>237362
>>237389
I bought an LR300 (A&K) with the long barrel, I also ordered the short barrel just in case, but I've never needed it, with the stock retracted it's never been an issue. I also have a full length M14, it is long, but I think it's only unwieldy for people under 6'. Longer guns just look cooler anyway.

>>237424
yeah full length assault rifle length feels exactly right for me too, and i don't feel the need to go shorter than that. but every inch after that has more of an effect on the ergonomics
>Longer guns just look cooler anyway.
agreed though admittedly it's handy to be able to add and remove length (and weight) on the go. the short EBR with a suppressor looks pretty good too, even if it's a bit generic tacticool

apparently attaching a suppressor to a short G&G M14 with its meme flash hider is a pain though

>>237436
forgot my attachment

>>237257
I know this is bait but whining about being overshot is the stupidest fucking thing. You can barely fucking feel or hear it sometimes, I'd rather get shot 18 times than not call a hit because I couldn't feel it. I was playing last Sunday and I was regularly confusing raindrops with hits and calling myself out just in case

>>237424
>be 5'9
>buy parts for my WE xm177
>turn that bitch into an m16 with a wooden stock and wooden a1 handguard
>the setup is all of a sudden way more ergonomic and easier to wield while being heavier
nigga i cant into logic anymore. always wanted an m16, had i known beforehand i would have just gotten the m16 right away

>>237035
i got the we xm177 v2. i got some ra tech shit in my trigger unit. that mf runs like a fickle ass woman. i love that bitch like you wouldnt believe but it just does shit like drop the hammer and not run untill you fondle it in a certain way, bitch does that often. the barrel wobble is fucking horrendeus, i got it in check after 2 bad games but man that mf hoe is time consuming. i even got the lube explosive enterprises recommended and she still chooses when to run clean and nice and when to just let me hanging. On the upside she doesnt eat bbs like the dirty whore that is my mp7, she only bursts dogshit cheap bbs, the mid priced stuff runs almost flawlesly. that being said, pic very fucking related. also its the rifle i can afford, so i dont have this shit lingering in the back of my mind like, oh noooooes 800€ setup i better be careful fuck no, none of that. i run my shit all the way aggressive. pardon my dogshit english but there is a lot of emotion involved here. Tldr just get one if you want see how satisfied you are and if you feel like ditching your gun just sell that shit used, you absolutly won't regret the cost of "renting" after sale for the experience alone. Besides i didnt see anybody not bitch about vfcs new batch of 416s, them hoes be acting up too

>>237518
>nigga i cant into logic anymore. always wanted an m16, had i known beforehand i would have just gotten the m16 right away
perhaps there is some hidden ergonomic boon from wielding a gun you really really like

the only other reason i can think of is that your mind expects the gun to be heavier because it has wooden furniture, and you can exert more force on maneuvering it because wood feels stronger and more stable

>>237521
you know what that might just be it. the way my m16 looks like just tickles some part of my brain without fail and its just right when i grab it. The wood part is spot on, i can gorilla grip things and the fucking wood is just immune to dont fondle me wrong. i suppose Dakka is a thing. funnily enough, i got myself one of those somewhat ugly drum mags and those mfs are heavy, still, shit looks right feels right, it just does it for me. I wish i had tagin money. ffs i want that predator m16 with the launcher handguard whatever its called and have a fucking actually usefull nade launcher

does anyone have a good experience getting a <1J gun that can pull double duty as a CQB primary and as a backup weapon for a gun that fires too hot, or is it going to be like a worst of both worlds kinda thing? i have a GBB pistol but i feel pretty limited whenever i try to rely on it

the cyma p90 would be very cheap, quite light and has good capacity. but i hear it's pretty awful trying to carry it as a backup. i assume i'd need some really specialized macgyvered carry pouch for it, because i wager it'd swing around too much if it wasn't directly attached to my torso in some way.

i hear mp5ks are pretty decent for this but i just don't like them visually

>>237557
>i have a GBB pistol
actually turns out it is such an antique that mag availability is poo poo, and it would also need to be fixed, and so it seems i need to replace it anyway. but honestly not too excited about getting another GBB pistol

the vfc mp7 would be awesome but the mags oohhh the mags

>>237578
hahaha you want another retarded ass fact about the vfc mp7 ? the mag catch hooks wear off after a couple hundred uses to the point where recoil eill just drop the mag from the naturally occuring space between mag and grip. happened to mine. Unless you know how to weld and diy mags or are willing to go the hpa route getting either the funky looking drum/ gay ass half mag that takes aeg mp5 mags at the bottom dont fuck with it. i fucking wish it was as good as it should have been but it not... sometimes it be like that

>>237557
>>237578
Some options for all three, with parts and mags commonality in mind
Raw practicality over form factor: AAP optionally with a stock, uses TM-spec Glock mags, is cheap, plenty of external and internal aftermarket to fuck with, also plenty of printed shit if you want to do anything from pretend you have a real submachinegun to making the externals necessary to run a gun from Halo
A practical gun that looks a lot more normal: TM-spec Glock, also with the option of a stock or perhaps a low-profile carbine kit (ex. USW), also (obviously) uses TM-spec Glock mags and has plenty of aftermarket to fuck with
There's also a few routes into an FMG9 if you want a compact SMG using TM Glock internals and mags, but they're expensive and/or not clear on whether or not they're any good - easiest route I can think of is that Poseidon and Acetech recently collaborated to produce a plug-and-play FMG9 that doesn't require a donor gun and comes with an integral tracer unit, but I don't know enough about Poseidon to judge whether or not their Glocks are any good so probably look up some reviews and ask around before pulling the trigger, and after that you'd still benefit heavily from buying some real irons or a red dot since the FMG carryhandle has some very low-profile, short sights in it

>>237670
meant to say "options for both secondary weapon and backup 1J subgun" but I did not get enough sleep last night

>>237456
>imagine dying because it starts raining

Elphaba, plz...

>>237557
I might get this eventually, just because I like dicking around with my P90.

>>237557
I got an MP7 leg holster but it proved to be just too much bulk for me to carry around on games for the little CQB we do here.

>>237670
seconding get an aap01, a glock, or and adding a hicapa. someone sold me one with a bunch of glue spread through the internals and I cleaned it up, bent the leaf spring a bit and its great.

>>237706
Meat, but it would be better to sling it, that thing is waiting to get clattered on a doorway or tree.

>>237709
*Neat.
Meat doesn't sound good at all.

just got a VFC MP7 v2
I love it so much, the form factor is perfect

Broight a used TM scar
Since the battery that came with it was swollen I wanted to get a new one
When I went to the shop I was advized to only buy tm's own 7.2 batteries only and that 7.4 LiPo will damage it
Problem is, getting one here is next to impossible. Should I just buy the regular ones?

>>237706
looking at this makes me think the p90 is a bit of an ordeal to have as a backup lmao. still kinda want one as a primary though

>>237707
yeah i figured about the same. maybe an MP9 sized gun could fit more comfortably in a belt holster, like pic related

>>237708
>>237670
yeah it'd make the most sense to get a hicapa or a glock whenever i find a good deal for one. but honestly the main difficulty i have with them is that i don't really *like* pistols or carbine kits, so i end up neglecting them. on a lizard brain level i really would rather get a vorsk vmp 1 as a "pistol" even if it's inferior in just about every way, just because it tickles at my brain

>>237518
>>237521
>>237522
This isn't some profound 4D chess. Full length M16 is just balanced differently than an XM177.

Would it be weird to keep a journal for a gun?

Basically my thought is that I'm a bit of an OCD freak and can't stand buying used guns because I don't know how much mileage they really have or how well their owners handled them. So I was thinking I'd get a notebook and jot down every single time I play a game with a gun, about how many BBs I fired with it in that game, any notes, and so on. I thought it'd be kind of a fun mindfuck but also kinda reassuring to buyers if I ever sell the gun (I probably will, eventually)

>>237346
coming back to my blog

i was thinking i could buy a replacement front assembly for the G&G SOC16 and use those parts to configure my EBR to be shorter when i need it to be, such as for indoors games. i thought it'd be dumb and expensive at first, but i got the long version on a sale for 150 cheaper than the long version so it'd be about the same price, and i'd have some spare parts to play with too.

https://www.airsoftgi.com/product/GG-SOC16-Front-Set-for-GG-M14-Only-3490/
it's out of stock here but some german site is selling it for 160ish

that said all the proof i have for it being compatible with the EBR is some redditor going "trust me bro". but i have no reason to think it isn't compatible (since G&G seemingly 1:1 reused the outer barrel from the soc16 for the ebr). long shot to ask here but any idea if that redditor could be lying?

>>237772
oh yeah just realized the EBR's (supposedly) better quality inner barrel would protrude out of the shorter front housing. this set comes with a fitting inner barrel but idk how good it is. it may not be as great a deal as i thought it was

Anyone know what the common springer buckings are? The one I need is about the length of a VSR-10 bucking but it doesn't have the tab on the outside; just a guiding ridge inside and a two pronged hop nub on the top. It's for some chink piece of shit Remington clone

Packing for my first vacation in over a decade that doesn't involve attending an airsoft game.
>Speed loader? No, don't need to pack that..
>Magazines? Nah.
>Anti-fog spray? Probably not.

>>237557
Coming off this guy, can you put a CQB spring in a Krink to get it to shoot under a joule? Just want something I don't have to worry about MED with

>>237985
I'm assuming you're talking about an AEG with a gearbox. if so then yeah it's a common thing people do and if you don't break shit or lose springs opening it you can do it too.

>>238008
Anything really; I've done springs with more power before but only on v2 gearboxes and never anything with less, didn't know if ak gearboxes were different

Talk me out of it

>>238075
it's a plastic pos

>>238076
Is it a POS because it's plastic or is it a POS that's also plastic?

>>238029
slightly different but not anything you would be surprised by. it's easier to swap to lower springs and put the gb back together.

>>238078
True, it offers way less resistance, especially if it doesn't have a quick change piston

retard here
theoretically, can you light the gas that comes out of GBBs on fire for cool muzzle flash effects instead of using a flash unit?
can't fit flash units inside a flash hider after all.
too dangerous?

>>238083
nvm as soon as I ask this I find this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sa7CerN8FY

>>238084
hey this is the magpul g&p m4 gas blowback

>>238085
will you try to light the muzzle on fire?

>>238085

Bought one of these things for a good deal today. Gonna probably end up getting one of those MI buffer tube adapters. What stock should I put on it? Should I just be unimaginative and use an SL-K?

>>238091
Also I figured out what was going on with this thing; the Vityaz/KP-9 has that extended magwell which is why the LCT mags are the way they are; this thing is based on a theoretical 9mm AK with no magwell extension. Maybe a 9mm Draco?

>>238083
You can, in theory, but the heat of the burning propane's potentially going to end up causing some serious issues with the brass and rubber that are your inner barrel and hop bucking, among the many other potential issues with blasting flaming propane with your shots - better off grabbing one of those low-profile flash/tracer units that kinda resemble a linear comp
>>238104
If memory serves it's roughly based on a Chiappa PAK-9, but with a lower profile handguard and thus without a magwell adapter installed; a unique specimen to say the least, and I'd imagine one could readily convert it to ARP9 mags to bring it closer to the look, if one isn't a fan of the 9x19 rock-and-locks

>>238109
I actually really like the ak style paddle release mags, especially doing the push reload. It's just, 40 round mid caps that you can't find anymore and they're $30 a piece. Sheesh

Who makes the best metal and blowback USP replicas?

>>238146
VFC

im very liking this so far
vfc ump9 v2
it had knocker reset cam assembled backwards so anyone get the gun should check if theirs installed correctly

>>238091
>tried an rfg on this thing
>felt great but as I was afraid of, you can't take the mag out with it mounted
Gonna have to get a fucking small boy huh. Hopefully a BCM is small enough

>>238146
Probably VFC, but best is a relative term. If your budget can stretch, just get a TM and put a Guarder slide on it. VFC pistols aren't great in general.

i bought a wicked jacket i wish to wear for airsoft but its not stretchy at all, so it tugs against my shoulders if i try to extend my arms too much. fucking sucks. i guess i could go 1 size up but then i wouldnt look as cute in it

>>238188
Post striped battle stockings

>>238190
sorry i have still not been able to find any with integrated kneepads

i spent half a grand on an airsoft gun and these dumbass frenchies fucked up the shipping and put it on the wrong plane. not only did they send it to the wrong country, they also sent it to god damn spain. rip

Got my new cap

>>238228
oh my fucking gooooood

i'm going crazy and i feel as though i gotta buy another gun to hold me over since there's no telling how long these guys' siesta will last
>just use the guns you already have
no

>>238237

>looks cool but apparently fucking sucks because AEP internals
couldn't they find a way to shove a v3 gearbox in there somehow

>>238246
oops

>looks cool but apparently fucking sucks because AEP internals
couldn't they find a way to shove a v3 gearbox in there somehow

>>238237
If you haven't ran a springer only day recently, you should

>>238286
funny i contemplated ordering a TM springer revolver since i was looking for something in the 1J range. but they go for like 200 for some reason. i feel like i may as well pick up a cyma platinum mp5k and maybe molle attach it to my chest so it can disintegrate whats left of my knees and lungs when i run it alongside my 12 pound rifle

Gonna play my first 48h weekend next month, any advice, I'm going with an AEG

>>238299
Charge your battery beforehand
Keep your goggles on while on the field and barrel blocker on while off
Be respectful
Try to get loaded in a reasonable timeframe between games.
If you're unsure if you got hit call yourself
Shoot the guy until he calls his; if you think you hit him you probably didn't. Your BBs can get blocked by a leaf.

Basic fire and movement tactics do wonders. One guy shoots while the other guy moves up. That guy then shoots so his buddy can move up to where he is, etc. Oftentimes you can move after you get a guy's head back in cover for a moment.
Oftentimes it helps to take it slow and get a lay of the land.

>>238299
Oh for overnight stuff mb.Try not to get wet. People are a lot less cognisant than you'd think at night, but this includes you.
For sleeping outdoors there's tons of good stuff about camping and whatnot, but biggest thing is make sure wherever you pitch a tent or whatever is clear of shit. Don't pitch in a depression. Don't leave open food in your tent.

>>238321
id just sleep in my car desu

i think i want to get a cyma platinum mp5, mainly because
>cheap and no hassle due to AEG
>metal construction
>extendable stock (even if i like folding stocks aesthetically more, i must admit they suck to use)
>lots of rail systems, can detach handguard and attach optics easily, etc. etc. (very important)
i haven't decided if i want to get the mp5 or the mp5k though

short
>can be both a primary and maybe a sidearm with a really good chest/hip attachment system
>can be made longer with a suppressor if needed
>could do some silly shit with it because it's so small, fire it one handed and stuff
long
>probably a bit more ergonomic for actual shooting
>25% more length but 100% longer inner barrel
>looks a bit cooler
>not *too* much heavier or longer than the mp5k, could probably still run it as a comically large MED secondary still
>can actually get it for a bit cheaper

i was leaning towards the short version but i see some benefit to the long one too

>>238337
>can detach handguard
i meant foregrip but im retarded

>>238337
>no hassle due to aeg
I know the thread is huge on GBBRs but if AEGs are considered no hassle in comparison how fucking unreliable are those things?
Anyway mostly depends on your field and use case I imagine. If the short one lets you stay in a certain MED bracket get that one. If you need more range get more inner barrel. Or just go with what you think looks cooler like the long one

>>238340
>how fucking unreliable are those things
could be very if you have a shitty gbbr and you're not inclined to improve the system yourself. some design decisions are just stupid and there's not much you can do.

>>238342
I was thinking of getting one of those Novritsch 10/22s because the idea of a .22 airsoft gun just tickles me pink for some reason. How's that system?

>>238342
Nta but every WE gbbr i have seen in the field falls apart and kwa are always dumping gas or temp sensitive.
Coworker I am trying to get into it wants an aug gbbr kwa but i have no idea if thats aweful

>>238344
I have no idea sorry, though the 10/22 gbbs are cool to see on the field.
>>238345
WE is like a honda civic 20 years ago. affordable but with a retarded bolt catch in the v2. the v3 looks like it fixes this.

>>238340
>I know the thread is huge on GBBRs but if AEGs are considered no hassle in comparison how fucking unreliable are those things?
i was mostly thinking about how you can pick up a cheap AEG, pick up some compatible mags for next to nothing, then throw in a battery and it's pretty much always there when you need to hold down the trigger on someone

GBBRs are fun but i feel like you really need to have unlimited love (and funds) for whatever you end up getting so you can handle maintaining the gun and all its leaky mags. like i think you have to be ok with dropping an entire gun's worth of money into mags (that routinely break and malfunction btw) and still have less capacity than a 25 dollar hicap for an AEG. for me personally i could not get a GBB MP5 because i don't love MP5s enough to tolerate the typical GBBR humiliation ritual for one

>>238347
>that routinely break and malfunction btw
>leaky mags
>>238342

>>238347
stfu, poorfag

>>238346
How are the aug gbbrs that exist and if I personally moved to a gbbr ak what versions are easy to work with?

>>238344
Get the VMP-2 instead.
>>238347
I have a WE MP5 I just use it with a drum. It's fun
>>238351
GHK Aug is good from what I've heard. Like it's the only good thing GHK can make these days
On AK. Only thing worth getting is a VFC. There is TM but the akm is plastic and the AKx is retarded expensive. Watch the explosive enterprises video on the VFC AK

>>238230
>sourgrapes.jpg

>>238340
>Anyway mostly depends on your field and use case I imagine. If the short one lets you stay in a certain MED bracket get that one.
i would use both the same way, for lower joule events and indoors. that said i would love use the short mp5 as a sidearm for its lower MED, because i really don't like using pistols for that. but if it turns out strapping 6 pounds of pot metal to my hip actually sucks, then i would prefer the long one for primary use i guess.

i touched it on my post but i kinda wanna try running the long one as a sidearm for dumb reasons (to mimic pic related). i have this vague idea of attaching it to my hip but also guide it to my thigh so that the weight is on my hip but it doesn't knock around when i walk

i think i just gotta order both and return whichever doesn't feel right

>>238334
Pretty sure MSW-style events outright forbid leaving the event grounds until it's over (with doing so being taken as you leaving the event entirely with no opportunity for re-entry), which is why camping equipment is listed as vital in the TACSOP
>>238344
Nov's 10/22 is an off-spec clone of the KJW KC02 with a myriad of issues, either get a KC02 + some upgrade parts (Rogueworx is best) or ASG's Hera Arms H-22 (which is pre-upgraded, comes with a better stock, and is still compatible with Rogueworx)
>>238351
GHK AUG is best on that front for being GHK's best design outright, but if you're moving to AKs, TMs are solid, but VFC's AK-74M is by far the better option if you can source one and aren't specifically wanting an AKM; mags hold an insane amount of gas, gun uses that gas extremely efficiently (other guy mentioning the XE video on it is right, semi-auto firing test hit 420-430 rounds before gas-out on a full mag), the entire gun is hard steel where it should be and reasonably solid polymer almost everywhere else, the hop unit is hilariously easy to get at if you need to change parts, the stock hop and IB setup is solid enough to be left alone anyways, the only particularly weak point (the lower handguard's retainer tab) can be fixed by replacing it with any other AK handguard, the gun works with any aftermarket that'd fit an AKS-74 (read: standard handguards, real-spec dust covers and gas tube covers + 4.5mm-pin sidefolding stocks and stock adapters) and the launch issue of guns arriving with zero internal lubrication no longer exists meaning that, assuming you're buying new-production, the gun will perform that well fresh out of the box without any need for BCG and magazine disassembly - while the TM AKM is a solid performer and would normally be a decent recommendation, VFC's AK-74M is a genuine contender for one of the best GBBRs ever made so far and I'd go with that over anything else
XE review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLtOwSkHiY

>>238357
>>238352
I told my friend to get the ghk but he wants the bokt release. He's mainly trying to get one fore manual of arms training.
I just want something to upgrade to for myself for my stalker kit, I run a cm040j right now and I want a classic style ak next so it was gbbr or custom tm cyma

>>238358
Sorry "bolt release". Again they wanted something for manual of arms like I said.
On my end though gbbr seems interesting but I've been split on what fits my kit and whats too rare or expensive for me to buy the gun for and can actually field in airsoft. I can't even afford a real ak thats any good, without hitting my savings, so it kinda fits both my wants for airsoft.

>>238357
Aren't ASG garbage? I saw someone at the field using a KJW and it looked alright all things considered; are they only good if you upgrade them?

>>238357
>>238369
Also does a regular 10/22 stock fit/they make a wood stock for it? What about ten round mags?

>>238369
Also
>Official HERA Arms licensed real steal chassis
Considering that HERA arms is airsoft tier garbage anyway (in comparison to firearms manufacturers), not much of a bonus

>>238369
asg doesn't make anything (besides the skorpion) the Hera arms is made by KJW. They are just a license holder. Same with Umarex and Cybergun.

>>238372
Also the Skorpion being made by asg is a bit of a meme. They just have all the parts sent to their warehouse in Denmark where it's assembled. It's just a marketing gimmick

>>238372
Ah, so that's why a bunch of the CZ shit sucks then. Damn. Who makes their pistols?
Anyways the KC02 is cheaper than the Novritsch anyway, and apparently people are saying Ruger stocks fit on them so that'd be the method I'd go with. Just want a wooden ranch rifle style stock. Might put a little rimfire scope on it too. For kicks and giggles though, assuming I wanted to do no upgrades, what're the issues with the SSQ22? Reason I ask is because the local shop has one in stock.

>>238358
>stalker
ever think of putting together a groza? some guy on reddit did that

>>238374
ASG CZ oem is also KJW. I wouldn't get a Kc02 unless you Really want one. I had one and it's crap out of the box. You should look at the rogueworx site and when you realize literally everything in it has to be replaced and how much it costs you'd think otherwise. I have had one and it's not worth the hassle. An example is that ootb you can't change the barrel or hop up rubber because it's all proprietary. You have to use the rogueworx hop. And remember they are placed in the UK so there's a extra tax because of brexit when importing it.
On the Novritsch I have tried one and desu it's fine but it's built on the raptor which is a clone that uses its own parts. Like T8 for MWS is different.
I wrote about the VMP2 earlier have you looked at one? My mate has one and it's a great rifle. (you need to swap inner and rubber as well like everything)

>>238377
Oh yeah fuck all that then. Idc if the Novritsch is a different standard or doesn't have as good of an upgrade ceiling if it works better out of the box. It's a silly idea for down the line anyway; the mental image of plugging a guy in full chink knockoffs of crye with a fucking .22 like he was a gopher just sounds hilarious.
Also the VMP-2 looks kinda neat. Is Vorsk gtg for a lot of stuff? I'm pretty sure the shop can order those, they've got one of their 226s in stock.
Honestly I wouldn't mind getting some sort of AR just to see what owning a GBBR is like. Closest thing I have right now is one of those KWC Uzis. It's alright but hangs up sometimes and I have no clue why.

>>238376
I am more of a m82 valmet person than a groza person for bullpup ak. I'd consider a pp19/18 whichever the bizon was. It's kinda sad the an94 never gets anything.

>>238378
Vorsk was known for making shitty hicapa knockoffs, but their VMP projects have been good. The VMP2 have sold like hotcakes in the UK, and I've only heard good things. Same from my friend

>just ordered 400 euros worth of shit i don't really need bros
feels good man

wasn't sure if my new tactical pants with knee inserts would really look good in navy so i ordered them in black too. not sure what im gonna do with either but i was hoping to wear a lot of blue and brown somehow, something like pic related i guess (won't get a BDU shirt though, i'll just wear a t shirt and a jacket over my rig if i need to)

>>238380
>but their VMP projects have been good
vmp1 looks very cool but the general sentiment about it seems a bit mixed

>>238390
nevermind i think ive found my aesthetic

>>238379
>It's kinda sad the an94 never gets anything.
there's a S&T one coming, but it's an AEG so eh

>>238390
>400 euros worth of shit i don't really need
I grew out of that really fast

>>238398
yeah its a guilty pleasure for sure but i just order shit on a whim and only decide if i really want to keep it once i have it in my hands. thats why i ordered like 3 different pairs of pants and 3 different foregrips

>>238369
>>238370
>>238371
1. ASG's simply a distributor, the OEM for a large amount of their GBBs is KJ Works - including CZs (which to my knowledge are actually damn good performers, their P-09 in particular has a legendary reputation), Steyr L9, M9, STI Tac Master 1911, "P18" (KP-13, basically royalty-free G17 which I was able to run for four years before having to replace a couple of parts and get it back up and running) and for this conversation most notably the KC02, which is the base gun their H-22 is built off of
2a. Stock KC02 needs to have a rear stock tang removed from the receiver to fit real stocks (or you need to remove material from the stock, but most go with the receiver mod), unsure if the H-22 needs the same treatment but I'd imagine not?
2b. I believe a niche manufacturer in HK/Taiwan produces flush-fit mags, but they only hold 8 rounds and are very expensive per unit
3. The stock KC02 chassis isn't very good (picrel 1, also heard that the pistol grip is particularly rattly) so even if Hera's stuff isn't great by real-steel standards it probably beats the piss out of the standard Bubba-esque affair it comes with
>>238374
As for the Novritsch gun, IIRC the quality control is remarkably poor and a great number of parts are too off-spec to allow replacement with off-the-shelf parts - which is a huge issue when the gun has problems and one of the things the KC02 platform is most known for is having a metric shitload of aftermarket available
If you're going to ball out on a KC02, to my knowledge the H-22 is the best route for a stock pick-up-and-play gun with no fuss, however...

>>238378
...I'd personally recommend a VFC AR; their Olympic Arms (picrel) build runs $300USD before shipping from Asian retailers and comes with two mags, getting you into a system that's very competently designed with some of the best GBB AR mags on the market (which are also relatively cheap, too) and doesn't require too much out of the box (bucking and barrel swap at most OOTB, if you want maybe get a steel fire control group with the gun or later down the line because while the stock parts aren't necessarily bad to my knowledge, they aren't as good as proper steel) while being CQB legal due to the short barrel, bypassing any need for an NPAS - for not a whole lot more you can get some retro carbines, though they've only got one mag out of the box and may benefit from an NPAS for power adjustment purposes
Explosive Enterprises has a good video on them, would recommend watching it; if you're more interested in the MWS system on a budget he also made a video on the Double Eagle N4 recently that's quite helpful, so check that one out too and see which one appeals to you more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iDVLTMt-40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qol9iEMLJ-0
>>238390
the VMP-1 is basically a clone of the KWA MP9, which has a mixed reputation due to certain elements of the design shitting themselves a little too quickly for comfort; I'd imagine the VMP-2 is better by virtue of having its own fire control and blowback design on the inside while using the same mags, but I don't have enough experience or knowledge about the things to really say anything; I like the Charger-esque model they've got though, would be cool to see something like that but with TM-spec Glock mags

>>238408
How long does it take to get one from Asia? Anyone carry it stateside? Also any clones with a steel fcg to start with? I can't imagine it takes AR triggers.

>>238414
1. Last time I ordered something from Asia it took a couple of weeks, though it varies depending on retailer and what shipping service they're using
2. Nope, unfortunately VFC GBBRs aren't exactly a common sight at stateside retailers for one reason or another (though their mags and some replacement parts can be found), so Asian import is the only way - beats the hell out of buying WE or GHK ARs stateside and having to contend with QC issues and replace a lot more parts though
3. VFC's higher-end ARs have higher-end material compositions (ex. their MK18 MOD 1, as mentioned in the former of the two videos) and thus have steel fire control parts; however, a decent chunk of retailers that sell VFC ARs also sell VFC OEM steel fire control parts for not a lot of money (ex. Proact has an OEM steel trigger and hammer for ~$42USD combined), so it's possible to just buy the spare parts and swap them in when needed or when you feel like it, whichever comes first
4. I've heard mixed things about slapping AR triggers into GBBRs, but the safest bet is to guess "no", or at least "not entirely"

I'm planning to use a VZ61 as a side arm, howerver I'm left handed so surplus holster are inconvenient to me and Kydex ones cost more than the replica itself, do you know if a nylon universal holster could do the trick, with some modification

>>238435
i've fit a mauser c96 into a generic mil tec leg holster before, and it worked decently fine. the main issue is that you probably won't get the gun fit very deep inside the holster due to the mag. but if you don't mind taking the mag out before holstering then i think you can pretty easily fit it in a lot of universal holsters

>>238436
>i've fit a mauser c96 into a generic mil tec leg holster before, and it worked decently fine.
i said "worked decently fine" but what i meant was "it didn't immediately fall out", i would not have brought it to a game like that

>>238435
Another leftoid mutant L

is it true that every american airsoft game is exclusively played with AR15s and you are only allowed to run an AR10 if you can prove you also have an AR15 with you

>>238461
100% true fact checked by real patriots