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Milsim events edition

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>>236300 (OP)
This board is so slow just because the old thread reach the bump limit doesn't mean you have to make a new one.
Didn't even make a thread prompt either 0/10

>>236300 (OP)
need to fit another 25 dollars into my taiwangun order for the free shipping what do

>>241761
Buy more bbs?

>>241761
actually do canted rails + red dot work at all? i get the real life use involves canting the gun sideways and that doesn't work in airshit, but i wonder if i could just use the red dot without canting the gun. putting the red dot on top of my LPVO is not an option

>>241762
eh i already got like2 opened bags and 1 more in the order but i guess i could get 1 more in a heavier BB weight

Thinking of getting a 2nd gun. An HK416, preferably. I have narrowed it down to VFC HK416A5 V3 GBBR and Arcturus AEG ver.
Is it a hassle to maintain and clean a GBBR? I've heard the magazines are very fragile because they need to be air tight.
I am also worried if AliExpress replicas can withstand the recoil from the GBBs, or should I invest in some quality attachments.

>>241763
>but i wonder if i could just use the red dot without canting the gun
to clarify i mean like putting it on the left side instead of right, like pic related (i just flipped the original picture horizontally). that way you could use it without canting the gun

i don't have one but it seems totally doable to have it on the left side, and it seems like it'd be more comfortable to use it like that anyway. is there any reason why people put their canted rails/sights on the right side normally?

>>241765
>is there any reason why people put their canted rails/sights on the right side normally?
ok nvm i was able to figure out that it mainly has to do with having the optic over bore so you can properly zero and your shots aren't offset as well. i can imagine it's a necessity for longer range shooting irl, but i can't imagine that really matters for airsoft engagement ranges and accuracy requirements

Do TMs have specifically strong coatings or am I just retarded?
Shit seems so strong.

>>241764
Personally going to suggest the GBBR because I think it'd be more interesting - mags are tougher than people give them credit for but feed lips are the main trouble spot, though the ones on VFC mags tend to be pretty sturdy AFAIK
As for maintenance, literally just buy some Super Lube 21030 and follow Explosive Enterprise's GBB maintenance guide on the matter; can be summarized as "field strip, clean old lube, apply small amount of new lube, reassemble"
His paracord boresnake video is also pretty helpful since a clean barrel can make a surprising difference as far as accuracy goes
>>241775
If you're referring to the MWS, pretty sure they're all Cerakoted which is way stronger than the usual airsoft paintjobs

this is too much even for me

Best options for a replica PPSH-41?

>>241878
The new vfc gbb?
I have had this S&t ppsh and you have to remove the ebb because it will eat itself. The materials are too cheap. Otherwise it's fine. The hop up comes from a Thompson and you will have to change the hop rubber and nub because it can barely hop 0.25 ootb. Also the trigger switch is from a m249 just in case it fries. Wiring is pretty shit too.
Then there's the snow wolf which is the same as the S&t but faux wood.

Ordered a VFC AK74M. You've all seen it by now, but I'll post pics when it gets in.

>>241909
>AK74M
reminds me of military class in high school

>>241910
>military class
Sounds based, which country? In the US, kids just get brainwashed with holocaust lies.

>>241911
kazakhstan its called нвп

>>241912
stands for beginners military training

>>241912
>>241913
>нвп
Interesting. Is it taught to all students or an elective for those joining the military?

>>241914
taught to all students cuz we have conscription for men so its supposed to get them ready for that but you mainly just do stupid shit like pushups with a gas mask on

>>241915
Did you do fast AK disassembly and reassembly like this?

https://youtu.be/LrxjYfl05ek

>>241909
Can never have enough AK posting.

>>241920
Hell yeah. I can't wait to see the next AK VFC makes.

>was just going to buy a simple high profile red dot for my rifle
>that was 2 days ago
>currently about to spend twice as much trying to rig together a micro red dot with a separate LPVO without any idea if the setup would even be any good at all
this happens every time

>>241928
i was also briefly considering just running the LPVO but i assume like it's impractical trying to get the eye relief right within any kind of closer range engagement where people run around. i prefer to aim down sights a lot even in close range (semi only in my area + i suck at point shooting)

my experience with magnified scopes is limited to firing real guns with big boy scopes instead of LPVOs however.

>>241909
wish they released an AKS-74U or AKM. Tried the 74M and it's very nice but I don't want that specific model

>>241917
yes literally that exact thing in front of the class

>>241933
From what I’ve read online VFC plans to release every significan AK model, I’m assuming that includes a krink and an akm

>>241951
the question is how long will that take, tho

>>241936
Thats pretty cool man. We used to teach marksmanship fundamentals in the US before women took over the education system.
>>241954
Probably a while, but I’m not going to buy a first gen anyway. I’m sure it will be fucked up.

>come back to the hobby and buy a new gun
>it needs upgrades, tuning and accessories
>"wtf well i guess i need another gun to rely on while i figure this out"
>buy another gun
>get annoyed with its stock performance
>now have 2 guns that need upgrades, tuning and accessories

>>241995
Just get a 3rd gun to use while you work out the first 2.

>>241998
ive actually entertained the idea since i actually have some parts and a need for an 1.2J-1.4J joule range SMG. but i can't get a cyma plat mp5k right now and regardless i feel it might be a bit irresponsible after closing in 2k spent in the last 2 months

>>242003
>1.2-1.4J SMG
What's the rifle class power?

>>242003
ARP9 and be done with it

>>242028
1.7J for rifles, 1.2J for SMGs (full auto allowed for them)

>>242031
i get why it's good in airsoft but i just can't get into the whole deal with companies using the AR15 receiver for everything, and using one for 9mm just seems like sheer hubris to me. at least the DE SMGs make a good effort to mask that they're repackaged AR15s

i was also hoping to go as compact and small as possible. like i thought about getting a DE M924 but i think even that is too big. really not a lot of SMGs that are even smaller except the mp5k

>>242039
You thought about one of those full auto Mark IV clones?

>>242087
the gas pistols? yeah that would be most compact and fun but i'm hesitant to do anything gas related because of the magazines, especially for full auto usage

i found some specna arms edge 2.0 x-series guns on sale for €225 on gunfire.com. it's definitely bigger than an MP5k and i don't really like AR style guns, but it's hard to argue with the stock stats and the price. however i've read that specna arms fell off big time at one point due to QC issues and i don't know if they've ever really recovered. what's the situation on that right now?

maybe i should just wait for the cyma plat mp5k to restock. i guess i could get something else too (like the ARP9 mentioned earlier) but i tend to buy stuff on sale if i can help it

>>241921
>next AK
I'd rather they do something else than another AK or mallninja AR.

>>242136
what kind of AR would you like then

>>242142
I said I DON'T want an AR. I want something VFC hasn't made before like a BAR or an FG42 or a GBB M60. Anything but yet another boring nugun, unless it's a V4 rerelease of their fixed upper M16s.

>>242146
i hear u loud and clear. here is your fg42 sir

>>242147
They used to make guns with so much soul back in the day. Not like the heaps of plastic we get today.

>>242153
you said it pal. i like plastic though. my personal boggle is more that every country is moving towards some kind of AR-shaped platform. what happened to countries seeing some dude's random gun project made in a garage and going "hell yeah let's make that our troops use that thing"

>>242153
>muh sovl
shut the fuck up, retard

What's a good brand/place to get an SVD scope from? Vector optics/RS ones seem to be out of stock everywhere and I've heard less than stellar things about the 100-200$ alibaba ones

>buyer's remorse over pretty expensive gun i bought
now what? i don't think i can return it since it's been a month. do i flip it while it's "fresh", do i just keep it in case i come around? i need to hear some anecdotes

A friend and i are going to build a milsim loadout, we are going to run identical kit and we decided we want AR15 GBBRs so, whats the best option that is:

-easy to find parts in US
-have decent performance OOTB
-its a workhorse of reliability
-its easy to find mags

So far we are between GHK, TM MWS and KWA, i know cyma have the T8 system, but nobody seems to talk good about that

>>242232
If its a system that you dont have already, like your first GBBR or HPA, keep it, otherwise try to flip it because collecting tens of plastic crap is annoying and hard to do maintenance after a while

>>242239
>ghk
>kwa
lol
lmao
If you really need to buy something off your list buy the TM. Other than that there's VFC with decent OOTB performance and plenty of aftermarket. Nobody talks about cyma bullshit because it's aping TM while being proprietary.

>>242239
An MWS is just going to get you right, I'm knee deep in an APFG (VFC) MCX right now and I'm trying to figure out how and why my gas routers are getting torn on some magazines. This was after replacing the hop arm and bucking to get it to atleast hop .45s without sending them to the moon.
>inb4 check heavy recoil club
they can't decide what causes it so I'm just going to file the nozzle arm thingy and hope it works. Also their advice is shitty and nonspecific.

>>242247
>An MWS is just going to get you right
NTA but I wish the faggot japs made at least one variant with a fixed carry handle. I know there are receiver kits but I'm not going to pay several hundo on top of the already expensive gun and mags.

>>242242
it's an AEG and i have a couple already, but it's currently my main assault rifle. it's the F2000 that i've talked about earlier

to sum up, i definitely wanted and still want a good bullpup, but the F2000 feels very half-baked and needs a lot of small issues fixed before it can be fielded, like the air voluming, the trigger, and spring twang. the ergos are also kinda retarded, like most of the weight is towards the back, but your main hand has to grip the gun by the dumb thick donut hole design, which makes it difficult to do a lot of fast shoulder changes and other things like that. it's also just a really bulky gun. it seems most viable for like a pseudo-DMR configuration where you abuse its longer barrel, easy teching and very comfortable shooting position to patiently shoot from afar, but that's really not the role i bought it for

there's a lot of things i still like about it because of the bullpup configuration, and i was going to just accept its faults, but then i found out i had totally missed the SSR77 when looking for bullpup options. the SSR77 seems much better out of the box and has better ergos than the F2000, now i want to get one of those instead rather than try to make the F2000 work better

Opinion on the new VFC L403A1?

>>242280
Boring

>>242280
>ANOTHER fucking AR

What GBBR should I get? Thinking VFC 727. Any higher quality AR alternatives I should be considering?

>>242280
>VFC L403A1
isn't this the first new and updated VFC AR or something?
what's new about it and how does it compare?

>>242382
It's got some internal upgrades over the V3, mainly a different nozzle, carrier and hop up chamber design, but other than that it's yet another gay mallninja AR so nothing really interesting.

Is it worth it "upgrading" the nozzle for a 2 oring one? In going for maximum air seal/compression in a krytac SPR and want to change the nozzle for the Maxx 21.25mm double oring one.
Also what other straight upgrades can i do to it?

what if I secretly replaced your airsoft with a real gun in your sleep

>>242470
I have waaaaay more real guns than airsoft guns

>>242280
internal changes are cool, can't wait for them to be rolled out across their entire lineup - particularly their more budget offerings
>>242382
new BCG using the MCX-style nozzle that's significantly easier to work on, new hop unit design that can be removed without OB removal (think like their AK-74M), and IIRC due to using MCX nozzles comes with an NPAS - has been informally called the V4 system and I wouldn't be surprised if it gradually becomes standard on all rifles going forward

What is the best airsoft revolver I can get?

I thought about getting into this hobby, since it looked like fun and always wanted to try it out.
Glocks looked cool, but pic related cought my eye. I was told to never get a beretta. Is it true? are they that bad?

>>242639
the only Berettas worth getting are the "Gen 2" Tokyo Maruis with hop up

>>242639
Nah they are decent, but you have to be aware that 80% of the aftermarket world for GBB pistols are for Hi-Capas, so if you are buying a glock, sig sauer, beretta, etc, you are basically buying something that only accepts stock parts (even VFC glocks have _some_ aftermarket), plus if you're in Europe mags can be hard to find.

>>242644
>Hi-Capas
these things are so obnoxious to look at lol its like john wick larpers everywhere

Anyone know if someone's done an Evoker frame for the AAP?

>>242638
i looked into it myself a while back and the options are pretty abysmal. h8r is among the most workable options because of the 24rd oreo clip and even that is pretty bad. aside from that there are a few tokyo marui springer ones. most of the CO2 revolvers shoot way too hot for any cqb use, but they at least have proper shells for immersion. supposedly you can get low power shells for them but i was told they also suck. in short: it's fucked mate

>>242666
I'm not too worried about it shooting hot, I just want something fun that won't just break itself after 100 shots. I'm looking at the umarex because I have one of their paintball guns which is pretty fun, but I'd prefer metal for the feel.

>>242672
are you just going to plink with it? if so you may want to get an airgun instead. a lot of airsoft revolvers are pretty half-assed airgun conversions, which means shit/no hop up and other issues.

i realize i probably shouldn't even be giving input since i don't own any airsoft revolvers, but afaik very few people do. i've never met one myself, even online. but if i were to own one it'd be the schofield.

>>242675
That looks pretty nice, who makes it?
I mostly just want one to shoot my nerd friends in the woods. I have a pretty nice airsoft 1911, but I just really like revolvers. I am looking for some nice pellet guns too, mostly to teach my children to shoot before starting them on actual firearms.

>>242680
wingun, sometimes rebranded as ASG. supposedly it's decent but it's definitely more meant for the replica/airgun market than airsoft usage

note that many CO2 airsoft revolvers can cause actual bleeding wounds, and shooting anyone in the face area with one is very bad news. but i guess if you and your friends are grown ass man wearing baggy clothes and paintball masks then you won't cause permanent damage to each other

>>242680
>>242683
also i failed to point it out but the wingun schofield comes in both airgun pellet and airsoft versions, as do many other co2 revolvers. the airsoft version is typically an afterthought. much like the real life schofield it's going to be front heavy so not the most comfortable gun for kids to shoot though lol

>>242642
I love my olde Y&P M9 NBB! It's accurate, reliable, efficient and cheap.

>>242639
>>242644
TM-spec Glocks (Gen3-based in particular, though TM's newer Glocks in the G19 and Gen4 line onwards have very good fundamental upgrades to the design and have a decent amount of support) are the second-most supported pistol platform on the market, personally own a KJ G17 that lasted four years before needing parts swapped and now has a GM alum slide, GM Ti-coated trigger lever and Guarder blowback bits
If you want the best performance possible, TM's Gen5 Glocks upgraded to nylon slides and feature the most up-to-date internal designs of any of them, with a decent amount of support; that being said the KJ G17 (or the KP-13 if you live in the US and can't/won't order from out of country) is a pretty solid option for an entry-level airsoft pistol that's compatible with TM G17 Gen3 aftermarket (just make sure to use gas mags running propane, CO2 mags will absolutely beat the piss out of the gun)
>>242638
Not many options; there's TM-style revolvers that hold gas and 20+ BBs in the cylinder, or shell-fed revolvers that use actual shells which hold the ammunition; most common option for the latter's Wingun revolvers, which do surprisingly have aftermarket thanks to CL Project (as they're the most commonly used revolvers for IPSC Action Air), but expect parts to eventually wear out and need replacement (maybe not in 100 rounds or less, but a buddy of mine treated his damn-near perfectly and still wound up dealing with the timing getting fucked on it eventually)
Also, while low-power shells exist, another option if your goal isn't maximum immersion is 3D-printed shotshells; there's plenty of designs out there for them (including some honeycomb-clip designs that have the added benefit of bridging the gap between the CO2 output and the cylinder, on top of being moonclipped) and let you turn your fuck-your-shit handgun into a reasonably alright pocket shotgun
(You can also just print single-BB shells, low-power or otherwise, and save a boatload on ammo)

>>236300 (OP)
Anyone in the US import airsoft replica shit recently with the new tariffs and shit? How did the process go?

>>242475
>new BCG using the MCX-style nozzle that's significantly easier to work on, new hop unit design that can be removed without OB removal (think like their AK-74M), and IIRC due to using MCX nozzles comes with an NPAS - has been informally called the V4 system and I wouldn't be surprised if it gradually becomes standard on all rifles going forward
Are they gonna make V4 fixed carry handle ARs?

>want to buy a ww2 gat
>essentially everything is a piece of shit
>want to buy a gbb ww2 gat
>lol
>lmao
I fucking hate this hobby. I guess fuck you if you want something else other than generic mallninja larper AR with 5 metric tons of useless shit strapped to it or generic mallninja larper AK with 5 metric tons of useless shit strapped to it. I guess VFC recently changed it up a bit with those retro M16s, FALs and shit like that but there are still no good WW2 GBBRs at all no it didn't change much. How I wish some competent company made a GBB Thompson, BAR, MP40 or StG44. Even a Bren would be sick. There is a little bit more variety with AEGs but I'm over sewing machines and lack of firing feedback.

>>242718
I know it's WE but isn't their Thompson fine? But yea a good GBB Mp40 would be sick. I've tried the SRC/Cybergun one and it feels cool to shoot but the mags being dual CO2 just ruins it.
Besides that get the VFC PPSH?

>>242691
God I fucking hope so - at the very least the V4 BCGs w/ MCX nozzles are backwards-compatible with V3s, but it would be nice to have that easy-to-swap hop solution in a gun that's just a little less generic without likely needing to extensively modify the upper receiver to house it
>>242718
Manufacturers will always prioritize the most recognizable options first before going niche, and ARs are used by almost every western military in some capacity (plus multiple Asian countries) - from there you go to the less common things slowly
VFC just dropped a GBB PPSh that seems pretty good (drums only, though the way they're constructed lets you swap out ammo feed tracks for quick mag-reloading), WE has a Thompson that seems potentially okay, Northeast has a Sten that seems alright(?), and I think SRC has an MP40 (though it's one of SRC's homegrown designs, meaning zero aftermarket available) but yeah, options are limited because WW2 stuff is pretty niche by modern standards - personally wouldn't mind a new GBB M1 Garand that uses enblocs, kinda like Marushin but with greater durability, or an M3A1 grease gun

>>242733
I wanted either an A1/A2 or a 727 but after hearing about the v4 improvements I think I'll wait.

>>242738
That's pretty much my plan too - in my case I want their 723, but it'd be nice to have the new improvements built in from the factory

>was about to buy one of those fancy v3s
>now they're coming out with a v4
Thankfully I held out.

>>242721
>isn't their Thompson fine?
No, I had it and it was terrible, just like basically any WE gun.
>get the VFC PPSH?
They made one of the few WW2 guns I absolutely don't care about.
>>242733
>Thompson, Sten, MP40
All of these are average to bad. I already mentioned the Thompson, Sten has terrible accuracy, vents gas all the time because they didn't bother correctly designing the magazine and you basically can't get parts for it when something breaks and it will break. MP40 is just bad all around from what I've seen. I would gladly pay €1k for a low production WW2 replica if I knew it was actually good OOTB. That's not going to happen because I haven't even seen any popular guns, be it AEG or GBB, priced like that where you didn't have to fuck around with it to improve performance, fix some stupid, underlying issue or it just straight up broke after a while. Airsoft manufacturers just don't give a shit because they know their consumer base will gobble up whatever they shit out anyway.

>>242754
larp as late war waffen-ss instead of early war so the ppsh fits

>>242756
Even mid war would work, I just don't like the PPSh.

>buy a used dye i4
>can't comfortably use my 2 optics even with the highest riser option or high profile weaver rings
twas all for naught. back to fog gaming

>>242759
What kind of gun? Chances are you probably don't need an optic.

>>242756
>>242758
>Even mid war would work, I just don't like the PPSh.
what a shame. could have larped as steiner
https://youtu.be/Ye9J4nQrz5s?t=111
i can sympathize thoughever. doesn't seem much you can get if you've looked into all your options already, like even carbined pistols. i also found a king arms m1 carbine but i have no idea if that is shit too

>>242760
eh i've tried playing without them but i can't really pull it off. i don't know if i have bad eyes or if i'm just bad at shooting intuitively, but i can't quite really walk my shots onto target, at least not on semi. lack of practice perhaps. either way i tend to aim down sights even within like 10m range. also my DMR is required to have a magnified optic to even field it

>>242761
Ah yeah that sucks. Keep the i4 those fucking things are amazing for pistol shooting or cqb stuff, and honestly get the Valken Zulus, best fucking goggles I ever had; they can't make guns but they can make the shit out of paintball pants and airsoft goggles

>>242761
>king arms m1 carbine
It's not good either. Already done the research.

VFC G3 yay or gay?

>>242762
yeah the i4 seems really nice and i'm definitely keeping it around. i gave it another try and i can aim with it after all though not very intuitively. it'll be a good backup
>Valken Zulus
oh good hint, there are some on sale in a store very close by

>>242763
sad. airsoft truly is an ar15 world

>>242765
Unfortunately the world is also an ar15 world.

>>242759
I have a Dye, AKs I don't need a riser due to the lower stock and with anything else I my Hydra

>>242766
>Unfortunately the world is also an ar15 world.
it really is lol. reminds me of the US military claiming they want to adopt a new rifle for like 25 years and then rejecting all new rifles anyway, even if they were better than the AR15. i think the only reason the US military approved the H&K 416 and the SIG XM7 as replacements was because the those companies went out of their way to make them look like the good old AR15 (even though they are internally not similar at all)

>>242764
it's an older design. Wish VFC upgraded it. Wanted to get one but decided to go with the FAL.

>>242769
Nah the us military went with the SPEAR because someone in charge of procurement has a bunch of stock in Sig, same reason they bought a bunch of pistols that shoot themselves

>>242770
fal is cooler imo. g3 has always just looked like an oversized mp5 to me

>>242774
It's the other way around for me. MP5 is a midget G3

>>242775
sorry i saw matrix when i was a child so to me mp5 is actually a bigger mp5k.

Whats the best lower facemask to wear with bump helmet and goggles for weekend larp events? I tried a mesh mask years ago and it hurt my nose.

>>242789
>I tried a mesh mask years ago and it hurt my nose.
they hurt my nose out of the box as well, but you can typically shape them with your fingers to assist with that. also some come with optional foam inserts to help with fit

>>242789
>>242796
>nose issues

>finally get airsoft gun
>show up to field
>its fucking completely dead

>>242823
no lefunds!

So far I’m impressed with the VFC 74. It feels exactly like my real 5.45 AKs

>>242851
now if only they released an AKM or at least an AKS-74U

>>241764
>Thinking of getting a 2nd gun. An HK416, preferably. I have narrowed it down to VFC HK416A5 V3 GBBR and Arcturus AEG ver.
>Is it a hassle to maintain and clean a GBBR? I've heard the magazines are very fragile because they need to be air tight.
>I am also worried if AliExpress replicas can withstand the recoil from the GBBs, or should I invest in some quality attachments.

Mainaining a GBB is easy, just look up dissasembly video, regularly clean old grease and relube.

Ive been through 6-7 "airsoft" red dots and all of them are shit, all of them had some kind of weird ass issue.

but GBBR recoil is so light that it should be a non-issue though. IMO just buy a proper red dot for 100-150 usd.

the VFC mags are actually pretty tanky, they're a good design and its easy to fix leaks. Usually it involves tightening a valve or relubing orings.

IMO GBBRs are better in every way except convenience.

>>242031
>ARP9

LOL

>>242239
TM MWS and VFC ar-15s checkmark both of these, but the MWS is the definite plug and play rifle. (the DE one, not so much)

Having both the VFC and MWS, the VFC just feels so much nicer than the MWS, realism and recoil. VFC mags are also lighter.

>>242396
If you havent replaced the plastic piston, i'd do that. Especially on a DMR.

>>242718
if they made a BAR, STG, or a BREN they'd all be 800-1200 dollars. Like the Northeast FAMAS is over 900 dollars.

>>242771

the spear is riddled with so many issues that i wouldn't be surprised it ends up being scrapped

>>242892
how do you go bout making gas a financially sound decision in colder temperatures ? No silicon lubed gas runs me 10€ for about 750ml of gas. I find that shit bareley is enough for 1,5 game days. My pistol eats it like hotcakes, my rifle does too, there is no cheaper ready to buy Gas that i know of. I would get my hands on a VFC if the m16 was anywhere near affordable. No used ones ever get sold and shit runs 600€+ new. Anyways im sure europe is different when it comes to gas but maybe i dont know something yet

>>242896
If they were actually good and didn't break then like I said before I'd be willing to pay that much. We both know it wouldn't be the case though.

>>242639
Well lads, went to the nearby shop and got myself a cz shadow 2. The Glocks looked cool but felt also cheap and way to light. they also didn't had the m9a3 in the store, which was sad, but fuck it, maybe next time

>>242920
Fucking forgot to add the pic

>>242916
What about those welding propane bottles? They run me like 14 CAD for one and work decently in the autumn.

>>242921
>CZoy
you fucked up

>try an aug for the first time
>forearm keeps knocking against the magazine due to the way the pistol grip is shaped because i keep trying to hold it like an AR
now i get why the f2000 is shaped the way it is. it kinda forces you to grip it in a style that is more natural for bullpups. i wonder if the tavor would feel more natural than the aug

>>242933
>bullpups are gay and retarded

>>242932
> fucked up
Explain

>>242941
ASG sucks

>>242893
Least shit AEG

>>242943
Why? Whats wrong with ASG?

>>242934
i actually kinda like many of their aspects, even ergonomically, but i think only the f2000 and p90 feel like they're really designed with those limitations in mind, instead of just sticking the mag in the back of a normal rifle like most of them do

>>242943
You do know asg makes nothing right? It's the same as Umarex or Cybergun. They just license stuff. The CZ pistols are all made by KJW

>>242951
cybergun makes logos and puts them on guns for a mere extra 100 dollar price tag

>>242916
So the beautiful thing about green gas is that its similar to propane... in fact, it IS PROPANE.

you can buy the camping cans that are about 1/3 the price of green gas. Better yet, if you're willing to invest into it, you can get a propane tank and refill the cans as well.

When it comes to "winterizing your GBB" VFCs are not really well suited for cold weather OOTB. You'll need to swap a few springs to make it ideal for that.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6-HL5k-GBo

Also check out Action!/proact airsoft for more affordable VFC GBBRs.

>>242944
Overrated>>242951
They do actually make a few things, like the skorpion.

>>242944
Then literally any G&G with a G2 gearbox would work, doesn't have to be the arp9

>>242953
Evike owns cybergun now IIRC

>>242968
Guy wanted a small gun
Also it comes with a battery and charger, super easy to recommend to new folks

Got 2 new pistols this week

>>242982
fair nuff

>>242967
Reliability is very hard to find in the airsoft world. It's overrated in the same way Glocks are.

cop or not
for subzero playing

>>242916
Green gas is literally propane, so anywhere you can buy canisters of 100% propane (usually found in hardware/camping stores, over here Coleman (great for bulk-purchasing as they usually come in three-packs) and Bernzomatic (blue blowtorch tanks, less bitterant and fits in waterbottle pouches but costs more per tank) canisters are the usual picks)
For winter performance, VFC V3 ARs (and the "V4"/"V3.5" British AR they just released, which likely also performs better in winter due to what seems to be greatly improved efficiency due to an improved BCG assembly that can be dropped into V3s as aftermarket) come with an adjustable screw on the hammer out of the box that can be backed out to increase the amount of gas released before the hammer is recocked; beyond that, MAP-Pro/propylene gas (Bernzomatic's yellow tanks are the go-to for this, as it's a blowtorch fuel) is a simple go-to as it retains higher pressures in lower temperatures
Beyond that, you'd need to swap out springs for softer equivalents; buffer spring's the usual go-to, followed by the hammer spring if absolutely necessary, both of which serve to reduce the amount of spring tension the BCG is fighting when forced to operate at lower pressures
Also, as an added tip: it may be wise to figure out a solution to keep your gas tank(s) and mags warm in order to mitigate the effects of ambient cooldown as much as possible, ranging from simply storing them in a closed bag with a handwarmer or two (tank at all times, mags between games to warm them up a bit, though it'd be wise to make sure the inside of the bag doesn't exceed 45 Celsius) to making use of electrically-heated magazine pouches (though I've not seen any reviews of them at this point in time)
At the very least you want the reservoir you're filling from to be warmer than your mags, since otherwise gas simply will not flow into the magazine

>>243007
Fuck titan batteries, if their Nimhs are anything like their Lions they are fucking dogshit. They decided to use a fragile copper ribbon to connect all the cells which will end up being stripped making your battery useless.

The only reprieve for this is that they have pretty good warranties and their Lipos are good.

>>242990
>not Maruis
NGMI

>>243031
>NGMI
I already have like 6 marui pistols, don't need another. Also plastic slides are boring.

>>243007
>nimh
>subzero
good joke anon!

>>242866
>now if only they released an AKM or at least an AKS-74U
When (if) they do I'm buying it. Rumor is VFC wants to make every significant AK.

What does /asg/ think about my gun?

>>243094
this is the airsoft general not paintball

>>243097
Well thank God it's Not Paintball then ^^

>>243094
An identity crisis in gun form
I feel like you would genuinely get more enjoyment out of paintball and its general playstyles than airsoft at this point

>>243094
when did you start your transition? :)

>>243094
>Ammo doesn't feed from the top
Are you even trying?

>>243109
paintball kinda sucks. Even on top markers it's not very accurate and at least here you can't play it recreationally besides tournament play which are only a couple times a year. Otherwise paintball fields are reserved for work events, bachelors parties etc.

>>243113
As long as you arent a piece of shit teenager with an ego problem

>>243116
>As long as you arent a piece of shit teenager with an ego problem
Like these faggots?
https://youtu.be/1lDPQM8eb7A

>>243117
Oh thats Tac City. Never want to go there again, filled to the brim with those types

>>243117
>>243118

I'm looking at the other videos on this channel, and noticed some of the guys recording are grown men. What a bunch of losers.

>>243117
lol how are these kids not getting their shit kicked in, i would be escalating to a physical altercation within the first 2 seconds of something like this

>>243120
no you wouldn't

>>243120
Calm down gravy seal

>>243135
>>243136
are you telling me you would let an 18 year old kid spray your neck with BBs while you walk off to spawn? you can see these same kids immediately go into crying baby mode when a ref actually confronts them. confront your bullies guys

>>243139
I'm not American so I don't have to deal with behavior like this

>>243141
neither do we here, there's 0 tolerance for that kind of behavior. that's why i thought it was crazy that there was no one was stopping these kids, like actually taking their gun away and banning them on the spot. if someone got caught doing something like this here, they'd probably have their gun's build quality tested against the nearest rock, followed by a ban on every field in the area and a de-facto ban everywhere in the country where their reputation preceded them

i don't know if americans are afraid of escalating because of the high availability of guns or lawsuits though

>>243142
>that's why i thought it was crazy that there was no one was stopping these kids
It's the same when you see some white lady get stabbed on the subway you just mind your business and not get involved. Bystander effect or whatever it's called.
It's funny tho seeing all the american videos and there are marshals everywhere keeping an eye on people. In my country majority of fields don't even have marshalls. The sport isn't that big so if you are a cheating nigger everyone knows you are one and don't want to get associated with you, so it generally sorts itself out

>>243142
>>243143
People definitely fight back if they start magdumping. My money is that the OP of the video clipped out parts of him getting punched out.

I was trying to find a video of some guy who broke his krytac after using it as a club on someone else. I guess youtube took it down?

>>243213
The beginning of this video?
https://youtu.be/lQzUayaYVZQ

>>243226
Yes lmao, I heard everyone involved got banned. SC Village is so popular and old so much shit happens. That's where the "i burned my patch" video happened as well.

>>243227
I still don’t know what patch burning means

>>243094
Got a parts list?

>>243139
I'd stand there and watch him do it. And then when he ran out of ammo I'd tell him to reload and do it again. And again. Until he ran out. And then I'd laugh at him thinking that bothered me

>>243241
So you would just let some punk kid cover you in welts while you study the blade?

>>243239
https://www.reddit.com/r/perfectlycutscreams/comments/10jd0m4/rest_in_peace/

Ok so some context: There was some team that gave a kid their patch (and some gear apparently) to him because he was new. The kid proceeds to record a video of himself burning the patch and posts it. There was also a rumor that the patch was made by a team member's dead grandma.

So anyways, the guy recording recognizes the kid and proceeds to light the kid up with his polarstar on the spot.

I saw that you can print a hollow suppressor. What's the best foam to fill them? Same whole size or change between sizes? Also do i need a spring or nah?

>>243282
im amazed people using airsoft (HPA) guns as weapons to try to deliberately hurt people hasn't gotten this hobby banned in most countries

>>243241
cuck

Why is the discord so full of troons? Is the entire hobby just trannies now?

>>243520
ima keep it a buck with you. I dont have the answers, my best guess is that this must be the next avenue the lucust have affixed their gaze on. I think it just makes sense to gatekeep the perception of the sport in a certain angled way. It could also just be posturing. I mean Every time i play irl its mostly just dudes enjoying themselves woth the occasional talked into it gf of a local player. What about your local fields ? Is socializing an option maybe building a sort of mini network locally ?

>>243520
it's their safe space. It's full of children too. Fucking groomers. At least they'll kill themselves eventually like all trannies do

>>243355
ayo what printer are you running? Ive been thinking of shelling out 800 buckaroos for one but i know down deep inside that all ill end up printing are some airsoft accessories and maybe a couple of goofy little keychain toys. Why dont you just print one and fill it with whatever ? I saw a video of a dude who measured the sound difference on aegs gbbrs with and without a foam filled regular hollow mock suppressor and it was a 15 decibel difference. Btw i did not try this out yet but irrc the guy i watched made some round cutouts from stuff that resembled the foamy shit airsoft guns are sometimes shipped in. No clue what the material is called. But hey man just try the cheapest shit first and see for yourself. Also would the effort and extra weight be worth it to you ?

>>243520
It's a large community Discord server, trans people are all over those like white on rice
I personally just ignore them and make liberal use of the search bar whenever I need info because it's got better odds of success than straight-up asking about something, and I don't really feel like engaging in regular conversation in any Discord server with more than 15-20 active members

>>243544
Yeah same. Lots of good info in there but all the incessant troon and furry presence really ruins it. What is it about discord specifically that attracts them like a moth to a flame?

>>243520
Mute every channel for the guns you don't own and it's fine. Well maybe not if you have something more mainstream like a VFC or TM M4, but for something a bit more niche it's good.. There's no reason in reading the main chat it's just faggots and retards, but yes airsoft is one of those hobbies that have more wo(men) than actual women.
>>243540
Not him but I use a Creality K1 with some aftermarket parts. If I were to buy a new one today I'd get the Centauri Carbon from Elegoo. Friend of mine has it and he prefers it over his Bambu.

>>243568
Also on HRC I forgot to mention. You shouldn't actually believe everything you see on there either. The server also has a lot of GBBR "larpers" that don't even own the Gbb guns they talk about, or if they do they don't actually use them. Same goes for YouTube reviewers like Middle-aged gamer or bada Bing airsoft. Both don't play airsoft but act like they are knowledgeable about GBBR. Same goes for the Discord. I know one of the guys there who has 30k+ comments and is in Every channel. He owns 1 GBBR and he doesn't actually play Airsoft. Yet he gives advice and recommendations on a daily basis to users on the Discord with knowledge he pulls out of his ass or parroted from other Discord users.

>>243553
>What is it about discord specifically that attracts them like a moth to a flame?
They hide behind "server rules" to be as obnoxious as possible without any possibility of anyone lashing back. As soon as someone dares to retarded admins throw a shit fit because troons for some reason are some kind of protected caste in every discord server. I have no idea why they have so much sway on these though, even if there aren't any in the admin group. Is it really just politically correct social brownie points for discord admins for appeasing those subhumans?

>>243571
Y'all sound like Russian Nazis. We need to be better airsofters :>)

>>243571
Airsofters don't have sex so they want to fuck the tranny cause it's the only chance they get at something

>>243575
I don't have sex and think that TTD would be cool

>>243569
>one of the guys there who has 30k+ comments and is in Every channel. He owns 1 GBBR and he doesn't actually play Airsoft
who?

this guy, i only know of him because he's in another discord as a janny where he does the exact same spiel but with AEG's. I'm pretty sure he jerks off to the thought of getting mod powers on HRC

>>243589
oh, that fucking retard. I personally hate that germoid Nacho guy

>>243590
Nacho is a giant faggot as well. People been asking for a CGS channel for a long time, but he wouldn't make one because he disliked it. Only recently gave in.

>>243540
>>243568
I'm using a Elegoo Saturn 8k resin printer. it's great for printing minis, but it get's harder to print bigger stuff. If i ever gonna buy a new one, then it would probably be a filament one. i also got bored and created some shooting target. Some "worked", some broke and some manage to handle multiple shots without problems

> Also would the effort and extra weight be worth it to you ?

Maybe? Only one way to find it out

>>243569
Bada bing does play...? He even posts gameplay footage

>>243612
It is true he did recently start playing again, but in the same video he said he went a couple times and didn't really want to again, and that he hadn't played since like 2019 before that. So not really what I would call active and someone who should make reviews on what's good or not when your metric of performance is shooting targets in your backyard

>>243589
Haha I already had a run in with that dipshit and made a note about him

>>243622
Kind of redundant, isn't it?

>>243622
650 days since he joined that discord with 36981 comments a day that amounts to 56 posts every day. Talk about being terminally online

I'm going to 3D print my first AIRSOFT gun, is this worth printing?
https://www.printables.com/model/1403014-mosquito-mk1-airsoft-kit

>>243626
56 posts per day about fucking AIRSOFT

>>243652
Yes mosquito kits are good

been trying to buy new boots for airsoft for airsoft for like a week now. everything just feels kinda shitty, even shittier than the milsurp boots im wearing now. finna just pick a pair and wear them until they fit

>>243729
just buy Lowas

Give me one good reason I shouldn't get a VFC M16A1

Has anyone ever ordered Taginn grenades from Evike? I got some several years ago and they took like 7-8 weeks to arrive. Was never given a tracking number or any time frame to expect them and genuinely thought they were lost and filed a case through Paypal, etc., did eventually get them, but is this extra long lead time typical or a fluke?

>>243774
i had not opened this thread for 2 days, but i did end up getting lowas after all. i wasn't able to find zephyrs for my fuckhueg feet so i picked out Z-8S GTXs on sale. i put in some insoles and now they feel like my running shoes, only heavier and a lot warmer. feels good man. supposedly these things suck for winter wear and super wet conditions but at least they're very comfortable. i could still try to find zephyrs but ive already spent about 7 hours trying to buy shoes lol

>>243958
if you know it works well for your use case and you have long had an unquenchable desire to fiddle with one and maintain it with love and care then you should get it. i dont think GBBRs make for good guns to buy on a whim and stuff in your closet after 1 game. they should at least be finger fucked whenever you walk past them in your house

>>243979
>i could still try to find zephyrs but ive already spent about 7 hours trying to buy shoes lol
nvm researched a bit more and apparently the zephyrs suck for winter wear too, but that's fine honestly since i hate winter sports, and i do still have my old ass milsurp boots for that if i really need them.

also the z8s seem more supportive around the ankles. i constantly dread rolling my ankles when out in the woods so i appreciate that

MWS or VFC?
is that the question that makes everyone go apeshit?

>>244089
It's a question asked by people who have done zero research on their own and want to be spoon fed.

>took my gun apart and changed the cylinder inside the gearbox
>somehow didn't destroy my gun in the process
>also gun now shoots a bit less than 1.4J instead of 1.2J
yippee

i reckon the air seal is still kinda shit though. the chrono values swing quite a bit and i should be shooting a tiny bit hotter with the spring i'm using

>>244133
also i blogged this because i had never taken apart a gearbox before. it was daunting at first but now that i understand what every little part does, and how to do all the rituals in order to put the fucking thing back together, i feel pretty chill about it. desu i think i enjoyed it more than airsoft

i played airsoft today and it was pretty good

i am becoming more and more convinced i should just get an mp5k so i can run & gun and flank with even more impunity

Retard here.
When the V4 ARs come out will all their ARs be upgraded to that standard?

Can any GBB enthusiasts tell me if there's any good way to mount a suppressor and longer inner barrel on a Glock? I've read that it's a bad idea because the barrel moves in the Glock so having extra weight can cause problems cycling and/or damage.

The main reason I wanted to do it was to have a pistol that can easily be modified to fire at around 1J or 1.3J at will. And also because suppressors are cool and they make it easier to point the gun on target in CQB

I reckon the alternative is to buy a Glock and then also buy an AAP01 to use as my suppressed 1.3J pistol. The extra Glock mag is a nice bonus. I just don't especially like how the AAP01 looks and would prefer to have a suppressed Glock

>>244454
>suppressor and longer inner barrel on a Glock
Ah, I'm reading that you can get a front kit that the suppressor attaches to, but then that would mean I couldn't have the longer inner barrel

>>244454
Would easier if you installed a longer inner barrel and then a npas instead of some niggerrig solution where the inner barrel is inside the supressor.
TTI makes a npas for the AAP. Idk about glocks. Maybe if you get a WE spec glock the nozzle valve is the same?

>>244390
probably not. The only worthwhile update is the bolt carrier

>>244469
>Would easier if you installed a longer inner barrel and then a npas
Did you mean shorter inner barrel and a npas?

I guess I could do that, I think I would just like it more if the suppressor provided some actual use via gas efficiency and maybe a bit of accuracy. But I guess it doesn't matter as much as it does for AEGs.

I read that you can also get an aftermarket non-recoil outer barrel but I think that would just cause more issues down the line.

I'll probably just get the AAP01 and stick some glock shit on it, and only splurge on the frankenglock dream if I really like running it as a primary.

>>244497
Actually I thought the AAP01 was still like 80 bucks, I'll just get the WE Glock if they're going to be the same price

>>244390
If I had to hazard a guess, they'll probably do it eventually, whether just through the BCGs (which are drop-in to V3 ARs) or with the new hop units as well
At least, I'd hope so since those changes singlehandedly greatly improve the gun's performance characteristics

>>244497
>Did you mean shorter inner barrel and a npas?
No bc the maximum air you get out of a stock aap amounts to about 1.1j depending on bb weight, so if you want 1.3 you need a longer barrel + npas so you can adjust it down to 1j

>>244536
Ohh I see that makes sense. Though I don't see how the longer inner barrel and suppressor would work together if the inner barrel wasn't inside the suppressor

Honestly the whole longer inner barrel thing isn't a big deal. I don't really want to own more than a single GBB due to maintenance/teching concerns so I was just thinking of having 1 gun that I can modify for various uses, like even run it as an outdoors primary if I feel like it. I figured the longer inner barrel would make it more competitive among SMGs and ARs. I'm pretty sure I should get an AAP01 to this end since it very easily supports different barrel lengths and suppressor combos, but I think the Glock would look and feel better with enough work done on it