Thread 236990

The twink did it again edition

>FAQ on buying a bike that nobody reads anyway:
> What good bike can I get for under $500?
a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough.
> What good bike can I get for under $1000
Good used hardtail, new entry level hardtail
> What good bike can I get for under $2000?
New Hardtail, decent used full suspension
> What good bike can I get for under $3000?
https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/produits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/602/capra-mx-uncaged-10/
Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it.
> What are the excellent value brands?
Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike
> What are the differences between an XC, Trail, Enduro, and Downhill bikes?
XC bikes are for going up fast, go down not as fast. Trail bikes are for going up and down. Enduro bikes are for going down fast, and slower up. Downhill bikes are for going down really fast, needs a ski lift, truck, or the rider pushing it to go up.

link to previous thread>>216525

The secret is stack maxxing, a stack so big that the handlebars reach your chest.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLxP1x-CBYN/?igsh=cW4wejZtZXFxbTA3
It's over for Super Bruni, look at his reaction. In absolute shock & denial. When was the last time someone won 4 times in a row in DH men, or even 3 times?

>>236992
gwin 2012 was the last time someone won 4 in a row

>>236992
I was curious about my bar height compared to what goldstone runs and I'm at 1112mm from to centre bar to the ground which comes out to 66.5% of rider height. Comparing to goldstone who has 1120mm bar height and 65.8% of rider height (according to a pinkbike article from 1 month ago). Been high front end maxxing for 4 years and people are finally catching on

>>236992
>>237213
tfw maxed out on spacers and bar rise and still not even close to a good upright stance. Sucks being tall bros my back hurts

What should I buy?
Stumpjumper 15 or Forbidden Druid?
Druid looks more capable but the Stumpjumper looks like it'd be easier to ride to the various trail systems I have in my town

Also lookin at Epic Evo, YT Izzo

dunno what else, Hightower looks ok but it's heavy and they put garbage parts on SC bikes for the price

>>237311
drood, no question

>>237311
Druid 100% bud.

Got soaked on sunday

>>237339
>>237349
is drood for like serious flatbrim bros?
ive only been mtbing for about 6 months
i built a 24 lbs 120/90mm XC bike last fall, is fun but I want to get away from that and have something to smash rocks with and doodle around
i have no clue what im doing
i can climb blues pretty good, descent blues iffy
haven't ridden any blacks
never jumped, done any sort of drop of note or roll
should i just keep riding the XC bike or does a trail bike make getting into that sort of riding easier/more enjoyable?
i ride a fuck ton of gravel/road but want to get away from that at this point

>>237311
>>237358
A druid v2 honestly sounds like too much bike for what you are doing currently. It is still technically a trail bike but will want to ride more like an all mountain/enduro bike which is probably not going to be as fun riding what you currently are.

The YT Izzo is a pure trail bike and will most likely suit the majority of terrain you will be riding perfectly. The core 3 CF Izzo is cheaper ($3600 on sale atm) than a druid v2 frame alone ($3900) and will realistically be more than enough bike to progress on for a few years. It will feel more similar to your current XC bike but with more travel and be more capable on the descents. If you do get the izzo core 3 CF I would recommend changing the rotors from the stock rt-66 (they are crap stamped steel) for either shimanos higher tier offerings or another 3rd party such as galfer.

Alternatively, you could also look at their jeffsy which is 145mm travel (the same as the stumpjumper for a more 'all-mountain bike') and get their core 4 cf top of the range option for $4300 and get a completely top of the line build with carbon fram and wheels, xo transmission and hayes a4 brakes.

The izzo will be slightly lighter and nimble compared to the jeffsy being less capable on rough and technical descents. It seems shocking value to buy anything other than the YT as you could buy both the core 4 jeffsy and the core 3 izzo for the same price/cheaper of a comparable build druid or stumpjumper. Being cheaper too would mean that you could get a lifetime worth of suspension services/replacing worn parts which will make the bike feel better in the long run than buying a top of the line bike and never servicing it.

>>237358
If you have the trails to warrant it, already have an xc bike, and want to progress, just get an enduro bike. Or better yet an ebike if you want to progress faster
Stumpy and druid are both on the far lightweight end of enduro bikes
Don't fall for the overbiking meme unless you truly don't have access to anything other than flat xc trails or don't want to improve
Dress for the job you want sorta thing

>>237363
I almost never see people on XC bikes on my trails, usually people are riding trail or enduro bikes
but I'm guessing those guys do bike parks
main goals I have rn is to be able to do small gaps and drops, small/med rolls and be able to ride the techy descents parts of blacks...I know people who are super skilled can do that stuff on XC bikes near me but I have no skills and ppl with a lot of skills all seem to be on enduro rigs for that anyways
Stumpjumper looks really appealing simply because they are actually cheaper than most other brands at certain trim levels, seems to be the most "XC" -ish trail bike, and the resale value of Specialized stuff is just so high compared to everything else....easy to sell a 3 year old specialized for 50-60% of what you pay new, stuff like Canyon, Giant, Trek, etc are way harder to sell and you get less back.
The $6k Stumpjumper has crazy good spec compared to the other brands at that price.

If I went drood, I was considering just buying a frame, then swapping over the XT drivetrain and wheels from my XC bike then buying a fork, but the $6k drood seems to be specced really well too.

I'm in northern new england for terrain fwiw

>>237365
>selling used bikes in 2025

why do so many DH chicks make onlyfans porn?

>>237213
>from to centre bar to the ground which comes out to 66.5% of rider height
I'm at 125cm which is 72% of my height. Tomorrow I'll go from 20mm rise to 38mm rise to stack maxx. I'm gonna max that shit. My BB height is 335mm. It's pretty comfy when you're in steep chunk.
>>237227
There should be bikes with big stack, c*mmencal ia one of them but they are c*mmencal
>>237383
Who? I only know one IG thot that only posts bar/sexy pics and barely any riding

>>237388
I get a lot that pop up in my IG feed recommended, I don't follow any so I can't remember but there have been at least 5 chicks and one dude
https://www.instagram.com/mmurmaider/ this was the last one that actually does porn

https://www.youtube.com/@LewisBuchanan
this is the dude, idk if he does porn, but the UCI kicked him out of being able to participate in UCI races because of his sponsorship lol

>>237392
also, Peak Torque follows all of them LMAO

>>237365
yeah don't even worry about resale value anymore its kinda over >>237367. either way what you are seeing probably has more to do with what specialized owners think their bike is worth instead of what it actually sells for, similar to pivot/yeti people
If you dont have unlimited $ and aren't totally incompetent you can get a lot for your money with DTC bikes. I've had the best luck with propain and recommend the tyee to everyone as a do it all bike, 160mm but pedals better than the stumpy 15s I've tried. YT is pretty good. Canyon and commencal are kinda shit. Ari seems good too
Regardless if you want to get better and do fun shit going downhill I'd say go for something in the AM/enduro realm
>>237388
Unfortunately not much to be done about stack on dh bikes until someone makes a 32" fork. For single crown bikes, Nicolai/geometron have massive head tubes but I don't really foresee myself spending 15k on a 60lb aluminum ebike

>>237397
raaw madonna v3 29er has 650mm stack in a size medium and a geometron g1 29er in their stock configuration with a similar reach has 625mm stack.

>>237457
the latest G1 has a slightly longer head tube than the madonna through the size range, though a bit slacker so the stack is roughly the same. Both a step in the right direction for the larger sizes. I was thinking of the newer belt drive ones specifically. Nicolai Saturn MGU has massive head tubes, 150mm on small up to 190mm

>>237458
what the fuck

>>237458
why is the geo on that thing so insanely retarded with the stack lower than most road race bikes

https://www.instagram.com/shellpageau/
another onlyfans whore DHer

>>237392
>>237516
You must be black. They don't do porn. They're athletes/influencers SPONSORED by OF as they want to stop the image people have that OF= porn thots.

>>237585
bro there is literally a set of her filling her pussy with an innertube and inflating it

how come flatbrim trail bros never wear spandex?
i bought a bunch of flatbrim bro MTB clothes and they are so insanely uncomfortable from all the sweat compared to road cycling kit (spandex)
after 20 min im completely soaked, shirt sticking to my body all soppy and heavy
feels like shit

DH pros are going to be in that shit soon, their clothes are getting tighter
they lose so much time wearing baggy shit
I bet on a 4 min run those guys are losing 15-20 seconds just from not wearing a race cut skin suit like in road cycling

>>237623
>filling her pussy with an innertube and inflating it
Wut?
>>237642
>flatbrim trail bros
You mean enduro bros?
Try mx jerseys, they tend to be lighter. Or go for "summer" jerseys. With the thicker one's it feels as if I got out of a pool wearing clothes. Shorts with meshs too, TLDs skylines for example. Just remember to wear dark underwear...

business idea:

make chyna crabon brand called "Bropain"

>>237363
Listen to this guy whatshouldibuy anon. I started on an XC bike too and then got a Propain Tyee. Felt overbiked at first, but having that bike made me want to learn to ride stuff that I wouldn't have considered before. To the point where I can now get a lot more out of the areas both nearby and at bike parks. Knowing your bike can take that kind of use is motivating.

Had I stayed with XC I would have probably just gotten fitter without improving elsewhere. Staying in the comfort zone of gravel and smooth trail riding.

>>237726
where do you live?
im way far away from being at the point of going to bike parks and have no clue if ill ever get there
jumps/gaps scare me since it seems like 100% of people into that sort of MTBing wind up breaking their leg/arm/spine sooner rather than later

>>237767
Austria.

No worries about riding park, jumps or gaps. It's what makes for popular online content, but don't take it as the end all be all of biking. Having a bigger bike will give you the possibility for riding more challenging stuff, but nobody is forcing you to go further/harder than you want to. Totally ok to just ride what you want. (This is assuming your area isn't like pic related.)

Also park riding doesn't have to be as sketchy or sendy like the videos. You can also just ride flowy trails all day and practice your riding more than if you had to pedal up each time.

>be me
>hard tail xc shit tier entry level frankenstein marin from early 202X massive supply shortage era
>doing a nice early weekend morning ride on some rando foot trails with some technical parts for bikes but it rained day before
>long gravel road travels through back portion that have some nice hills for gettin some brief short downhill action
>finish up comin down hill, pull out on gravel access road to go back up to the top from a different path
>pass WMAF couple with their dog kids on gravel trail and wave hello
>hard -got WM retorts snidely with:
"It's a little wet out here for that...."
>Ride off laughing at him not sure how to respond
>livin' my life, laughin' and lovin' for a few days
>remember this shit and get pissed, feel like I was woods-shushed

Bro's I had a great time despite all the mud, desu. What was this guy's deal? I've literally never had someone condescendingly tell me that the conditions were too wet. I feel like that guy was just a sissy who doesn't like getting dirty. This dude was just averted to getting wet or some shit.

>>237815
>not hardening the fuck up emtionally as well
You know the Dursley's from Harry Potter? They're not just fictional. Some people are like that, especially outdoors where they feel like the "natural" world has to be exactly like their expectation. Let them seeth, you already have the high ground by having been polite.

>>237815
have you ever been diagnosed for autism or aspergers?

>tires pumped at 2bar front, 2.2 rear
>suspension working flawlessly
>absolute control despite a bald rear tire at max pressure going all over the place
>so damn good
>thunderstorm last week
>branches everywhere
>can't stop
>derailleur shaved clean off the frame by a branch sticking out1
What a fucking gay way to end the ride, I finally rode chainless though.
It's a bit overrated desu. I thought it would be a WOOOW experience. Dunno if its due to the platform but meh. I have to get a new derailleur to try again with a chain.

>>237311
I hope that anon didn't end up ordering a YT
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/yt-industries-begins-restructuring-under-self-administration.html

>>237964
They are saying YT USA is still operating normally, at least orders don't seem to be getting canceled. I will find out how true this is since my zeb that came on a YT just starting creaking which I am somewhat happy about because I need more steerer tube length
>>237915
we need to go back to 2x or hurry up with gearboxes or somethibng, derailleurs are too fucking close to the ground especially on 27.5. I took my trail bike to the park for once and immediately bent my tranny cage. At least you can actually get sram parts unlike with the japs

Should I get a 27.5" or a 29" ebike MTB or make a mullet out of the 27.5" for food delivery?
I tend to jump on curbs, lane-switch and such in the inner city but in the outskirts there are longer stretches of asphalt, potholes are not rare either

>>237964
I came so close because the Ohlins spec Izzo was priced at $2700 shipped instead of regular price of $4800
but it didn't sit right with me so I didn't pull the trigger
It's been removed from their website for the US now so I probably wouldve just been told they were out of stock
ppl were saying at the time the sale looked shady as fuck and they were just blowing out prices to get cash on the books for some accounting fuckery and that looks like it's exactly what they were doing
scumbags

>>238136
isn't this just dependent on head angle and doesn't really have much to do with mullet setups?
I thought people run mullet on bike bikes to make them more agile (also the wheels is stronger/stiffer for smashing into shit on DH), not to get slacker HT?

shimano caliper seals decided to die and now can't decide whether to rebuy a new caliper or try a new brake system. Have been wondering about hope t4v4 for a while but with their new brakes incoming wondering if I should just buy a stop-gap caliper and then once the new hope's come out, buy them and swap the shimano's onto my other bike or just go for t4v4's.

Geometry terms for noobs

Need help on selling stuff.
how much would you sell and would you buy the following
>oneupV2 dropper 150mm 31.6
>charger 2.1 lyrik(a Yari that I upgraded) with scratches at the lowers due to use, clean stanchions, last cartrige service was in august and I'll do a lowers+ airspring before selling
>funn equalizer stem
>stock norco 780mm bar
>2020 norco range A2 frame(w shock)
>>238248
The new ones come in 1 month so I'd say just wait. As for calliper a bike shop should have some old ones I'd say or get at 520 during the wait.

>>238388
Best way to gauge pricing is to check what others have the same/similar item up for sale on pinkbike or facebook. Personally, I find facebook sellers tends to be a little delusional with their prices compared to pinkbike. Additionally, people on pinkbike generally seem to understand what they are buying and will be more serious about buying and not mess you around (unless they just never reply to you). On ebay you can also see sold items if you scroll down to the 'show only' section on the left hand side of the screen.
Pricing is quite region dependent so probably not too helpful people giving valuations. For listing your items either use PB or a local facebook group which specific for mtb gear. General facebook marketplace is a waste of time imo and ebay has seller fee's, however it does come with some seller security.

Last ride/bike post before UK government effectively bans accessing 4chinz without age verification methods. Shall not be giving hiroshimoot $30/year to post via vpn. Enjoy the rest of the summer riding and don't forget to keep stack maxxing

Best tubeless sealant?

>>238248
shimano calipers are fucking trash
levers are nice

1st time bleeding dominions brakes is so fucking messy after using shimanos
>apply positive pressure and remove syringe
>oils comes out spurting
And dot51 is like 100x more viscous than Redline Likewater.
However I do enjoy the screw in bleeding ports on the calliper and lever, compared to shimano I had my syringes gone flying bc the syringe didn't like the angle it was. And the 2 bleeding ports on the callipers is pretty smart. I'd do magic on shimanos with vaccum and 2 ports on the calliper. Now I just hope they fit my 2.3mm rotors...
>>238545
Poor bongistan citizens

>>238689
Cum.

>>237815
It only started getting "a little wet" when his Asian gf saw you.

CSU has started creaking

>Hayes A4
These fucks are noisy when you are not braking. The pads rattle everywhere, I can no longer go off the brakes and just hear the tires/suspension when I plow. The noise alone makes me reconsider and go back to shimano

tried to take time off the bike to rehab herniated discs but I can't do it bros I'm going to the bike park wish me luck
>>239869
iktf SRAM has my fork right now hopefully giving me a new crown. I'm almost ready to start buying intend forks or something, unbelievable how much I need to warranty $1000+ factory/ultimate forks and then the crown creaks out of warranty
>>239881
put something on the pin between the pads, I've seen a spring from a pen, piece of tube, etc. Also doesn't hurt to bend the pad spring out a bit

>>239909
humiliation fetish

cross country mountain biking, everyone

I've got into mountainbiking after a long hiatus (around 15 years) and I've made three major observations in my first 2 months back:

1) Dropper posts are the greatest thing ever. Forget about 27.5 wheels and enduro bikes (aka pedal-able 'freeride' bikes), these things are the greatest QoL upgrade since I've been gone. What else can I say?

2) E Bikes - they're everywhere. I've been on a few trail center rides and they're full of fat 30-40 year old slobs on e-bikes. Fair play if you're an old man with bad knees but they're the minority of users. I've had two guys (in one month) tell me - without any prompting - that they don't actually help that much on the flats and don't do anything when you go over 15mph. Of course not bro, it's all you.

3) I feel like a manchild. I'm going to bike parks bumping shoulders with people well under half my age, somtimes triple. I have the feeling that I'm making a grave and embarrassing mistake taking this up again at 34 but this shit is so much fun I can't stop.

>>239869
>CSU has started creaking
Here, think of this everytime you hear it creak whike you ride. Someone posted this pic yesterday. An ohlins

>>239926
>roadies larping as MTB'ers
might as well just ride a Gravel bike

>>240047
I will never understand cyclocross and gravel biking.

>I want to go mountain biking
>But only the part that sucks

Turns out when I'm doing Judo I gas out from the lack of cardio conditioning. What's the offchance that zone 2 doing MTB would beef that bad boy up?

Why is this general so downhill focused?
Is it because it's the extreme sports board?

I don't want to hear about your high stacks and herniated disks.

I want to talk about short travel suspensions and riding chill features in the woods.

>>240449
Because that is objectively less fun, and also the type of riding that I try and avoid, might as well be gravel biking at that point if you don't need a mountain bike to ride it.
If you are going to go and ride chill (not real) features you might as well go for a gravel ride and avoid going downhill, roots, rocks, skinnies, and jumps.

But my attitude may change towards your point of view when I hit 60 like many of the other older men I have met out riding

>>240586
>might as well be gravel biking at that point if you don't need a mountain bike to ride it.
ok but what about riding that requires suspension and mtb tires but isn't downhill? Like trails with tech?

I like riding where both the uphill and downhill are fun, rather than using a lift or riding a boring climb trail to get to enduro trails.

>>240782
climb trails are fun one or two times and then they get boring and tedious real fast. having a consistent gradient fireroad which you can ride comfortably for an extended period of time/multiple times to ride different trails around the same area makes riding so much better. It honestly confuses me how pinkbike made such a large segment out of their shootouts doing an 'impossible' climb, besides purely for entertainment how many people are doing that kind of stuff in their average trail ride?

>>238975
my fucking piece of shit hayes dominions is leaking cause the bleed port screw stripped the damn MC, they are sending me a new MC not sure how long it will take but i hate waiting to ride

>>240443
Judo randori is not really zone 2, but by all means go out riding. It'll help you stay leaner and will increase your work capacity

Do any of you anons have a DJ that you actually ride?
Cheap frames from NS going bankrupt. I'm going to build the 650b dirt jumper crackhead-mobile trail bike with a dropper post that has been long brewing in my mind fortress >>240449 is this ok
>>240782
I like tech climbing sometimes mostly on ebike but I have a hard time believing anything can be more fun than lifts

>>240873
>>241006
>I like tech climbing sometimes mostly on ebike but I have a hard time believing anything can be more fun than lifts
All of the trails near me are around rolling hills so the idea of 'climbing trails' and 'downhill trails' doesn't really make sense to me.

I just ride and sometimes I go up and sometimes I go down.

kino is back at worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KZV7zfMGTg

Need a bike rec niggers. I’m a brand faggot so I’m thinking of getting another Santa Cruz, plus the lifetime warranty is pretty nice. Initially I wanted something more trail like to climb better for day to day weekday exercise grinding but I’m thinking instead of that, get a bike that contrasts my Nomad. I’m thinking a 5010 because it climbs somewhat better but is more fun on trails since it’s the bmx or Miata of trail bikes: small but feels faster and more fun.That seems to be a better purchase than a Bronson or a Hightower. Thoughts?

>>242755
ibis ripley/ripmo, norco fluid/optic (older model w/o high pivot), transition spur/smuggler, yeti sb130/140, mondraker raze. You cant really go wrong with a santa cruz though and might be better deals on these other options

>>238545
Lol I saw a thing in the news last night some bong was protesting how trump was bringing back fascism
>meanwhile in the UK

>Ergon GE1
Tbh these are shit grips. I expected some magic with their design, I could've gone for the ODI vanquish. 2 days of riding and had an acute pain on my wrists for the last 2 days. Long descents are uncomfortable, the "rubber" is just hard. But they are comfortable if you dont do long stuff and they have ALOT of grip, genuinly ALOT, enough to ride without gloves and sweaty hands. The SB3 logo 2s were good grips looking back but they last like 10 months and the end is not tapered which I'd like. I'll ride the GE1s a bit more but I'll either change to the original logos or some vanquish. I just need cyan blue grips

>>242936
>he fell for the ergon meme
>in late 2025

grim

>>241006
Yes. I got a really good deal on an Octane One Zircus and I ride it much more than my trail bike. I live in the pumptrack capital of the UK (there are 3 of them within a 20 minute drive of my house) and I can swing by after work and just practice jumping and manuals for an hour or two.

Anyway a 27.5in bike with a 65 degree head angle like the Surge is going to feel slugglish compared to a light and poppy 26er with 100mm forks and fast-rolling tyres for DJ but it'll be a fun bike to ride regardless

Do you think the GT sensor pro is a good all round carbon full suspension. Ive been doing a lot of trail riding on my hardtail (polygon entiat TR8 plus tire) and feel i could decend faster on a full suspension. My other consideration was a polygon siskiu t8.. bit thay aluminum and sorta lower grade compared to the sensor. It has less suspension travel and may be more of an XC bike. Is that correct? It sorta seems like a no brainer to go the carbon frame for nearly the same cost.

I at about $2000 for it and am in no rush to buy. The only bikes I buy are from the jenson bargain bin.. the gt sensor pro is currently in the jenson closeout bargain bin. I may have to buy it quickly before theyre all sold. Sorry to say, im not thrilled with the availabile paint scheme.

I dont fuss a ton over the geometry as much as I do over the groupset amd suspension components. Im still in the beginner zone of riding trying to get towards intermediate.

>>240782
My hometrail is a a climb trail. It kicks my ass everytime going up (and down) but i really love it. It doesnt have a fireroad or anything.. this makes it slightly dangerous as people descending will encounter climbers.. the courteous thing to do is go off trial of your climbing. Its much easier for climbers to go off trail safely. The decenders are really bookin. Still, my last ride. Thre was a boomer climbing. I was decending. That stubborn older guy didnt want to yeild so I had to do sorta a maneuver to ride over some steep grade to ride around him. It worked out that time but there's a few narrow sections of that trail that make me nervous in such scenarios. I really woulnt want to meet somebody going fast there. Somebody could end up eating shit by going off trail and tumbling down some very steep grade. I just hope Hopefully we'd have enough time to both stop. Fuck sakes.

im going back again and again. Its a very tough climb. But then, I tear ass back down. The decent which is very fun, takes much less time. Im still a newb so this is all new and exciting to me. Practically a boomer myself at 43.. kicking myself for not getting into this in my 20s.. ehh. I still have a few good years left.

>>242956
65° is with longer travel forks. Already got the frame and I'm going to use a 120mm fork which seems to measure about 67/68 HA. Very close geo to the spesh/fezarri 27.5 djs. 27.5 is plenty small for me and I want to also use it as a singlespeed fuck around bike since I only have enduro/dh rigs
>>242973
people I know with GT trail bikes love them. Is pon still doing warranty support? Even without a warranty that is a pretty good deal. Codes kinda suck but they work. I like that blue color

>>243006
Yea, I might go for it. The medium frame appears like its going to fit me well. I dont really enjoy riding small size frames. im 5'8" so a lot of times the small is my size but I much prefer the way i prefer on medium.

What do you mean by "codes suck but they work"?

>>243009
the brakes, SRAM codes. Relatively shitty lever feel and sorta hard to maintain, but they should be plenty powerful

>>242938
I never knew it was a meme....

>>243020 #
Are there any other bikes in that price range that you'd consider to be a better deal? It seems everytime I look at other bikes its ways going to aluminum frame or lower level components. Since GT is going bankrupt its apparent why one of their higher spec'd bikes is going on firesale.

I just dont want to buy a dud. My home trail is a climbing trail. Theres a few technical climbs throughout. I want it good for climbing but also good for stable/fast decents.

To summerize. I dont know what the hell im doing.

>>242936
Ive tried a million grips and Peatys mushroom are the end game for me until ODI makes a longneck XL. One of the colors happens to be a blue/cyan
>>243028
Other than used, 2200 for a carbon/GX/rockshox select+ is sorta hard to beat. I don't know of anything else but will say don't get hung up on frame material, it's probably the last thing to consider. 140/150 will keep your options open and is close to ideal for tech climbing. I would check on the warranty thing though

>>243028
No, the GT is great for the money and you can hardly go wrong with any modern enduro/trail bike. The parts are solid and the geometry is modern - you will have fun on it regardless. People can be snobby when it comes to bikes, it's the gayest thing about this hobby.

>live in santa cruz
>just started bicycling
>favourite part is going uphill and pushing as hard as i can
>hate going downhill because it's scary and i just sit on the brakes the entire time
>there are actual tylenoids whose favourite part of bicycling is just going downhill
mountain biking is for literal cuckolds, you just fucking sit there as the fun happens around you. for road biking, you are an actual participant in the sport. why dont mountainfaggots just drive around in a car if they love the exciting gameplay of having a vehicle do all the work for you?

shitposts used to be believable

>>243073
>tylenoids

Kek

>>243075
not a shitpost. i didnt know anything about bicycles until recently and it's insane to see people discussing santa cruz bikes and ibis bikes etc when i have friends who work at their factories down the road lol
i just hate going downhill! it's harder to stop and avoid hazards + you just sit there passively

>>243068 #
Thanks. I pulled the trigger. Im psyched!!!! Ill probably be "overbiked" on this thing. Theres another gay mountain biking term.

W/e. It was on the jenson closeout sale and I was getting nervous they would sell out if I waited. I did a lit of self convincing to order that.. my standover height will be nice. Im a disgenic 5'8" male with long arms and stubby legs. The 28.5" standover on a medium frame should be perfect. Once that standover goes to 30 and 31" its getting close to the nifkin dangerzone.. a lot of other medium frames have a higher top tube.

Well, fuck it. I blew up the credit card. The mountain bike will pay for itself in all the free blowjobs I get from trail hoes.

>>243089
If you're sitting in the saddle passively whilst descending, I'm not surprised you feel like you're going to crash.

>>243103
Nice one nigga, you'll have a blast on that thing. And don't worry about being 'overbiked' at all. I bought a 155/160mm Airdrop Edit as my first bike after a 15-year layoff from mtb and within a couple of months as I started going faster, started hitting up bike parks and riding rougher trails I was absolutely glad of the extra travel, stiffness and the slacker head angle

>>239881
What do you think of these things, besides the annoying noise? I have a pair of Guide Rs on my bike and they're garbage for 4 piston brakes. I was thinking of either getting some Magura MT7s since they're on sale but I have a soft spot for Hayes since I had some 9s many years ago and they were the most bulletproof brakes I've ever owned. I think I went 3 years without having to bleed them once lmao

>>243106
Nice! Im glad to know im not overdoing it. To me the gt sensor pro seems to be an economical choice.

>155/160mm Airdrop Edit
I see many other people going way higher than me so also makes me feel better. People on r/mtb are posting thier 10k new bikes days.. Some of you guys buy really high dollar stuff.. I passed a guy on the trail. I think he had fancy electronic shifters.

>>243089

This anon is either a troll and/or has never been mountain biking before.

>>243115
If you have a high salary, these faggots in the mountainbike industry will convince you that you will need newer and better things every year. It was the same when I started in the 2000s and it's all just as gay. The only developments of any substance of the last 2 decades have been clutch derailleurs, dropper posts, bigger wheels, tubeless tyres (that actually work) and pedal-able 'freeride bikes' aka 'Enduro bikes'. Everything else is just incrementally-better-at-best marketing veneer.

Anyway, enjoy your bike my nigga and don't get bogged down in all that unimportant stuff. Those niggas on their rigid clunkers in the 80s were having just as much fun as us

>>243121
>The only developments of any substance of the last 2 decades have been clutch derailleurs, dropper posts, bigger wheels, tubeless tyres (that actually work) and pedal-able 'freeride bikes' aka 'Enduro bikes'. Everything else is just incrementally-better-at-best marketing veneer.

I don't think that's entirely fair. the hardtail I bought ten years ago is hot garbage compared to the (lighter, cheaper, better-spec) full suspension bike I bought this year. a lot of the improvements have been industry-facing rather than consumer-facing. fact is, cheap entry-level bikes today have all of the bells and whistles that flagships had five years ago. some of those features are market-buzzword nonsense (looking at you sram) but when you compare the stock wheelset on a 2015 bike to a 2025 bike the difference is night and day.

>>243106
i dont want to pedal while going downhill because it's too fast for me and i start to freak out a little to be honest
i've been motorcycling for over 12 years and have never been afraid of scraping peg on downhill corners, but i start going 20mph downhill on a bicycle and my body thinks i am being attacked

>>243127
Yeah but you're comparing a ten year old hardtail to a full-suspension bike - it's apples and oranges. But yeah, the average entry-level bikes are great now that's for sure. When I quit mtb around 2010, YT and Canyon were coming out with incredibly well-specced bikes for a fraction of the price of their competitors and that has become the norm now. But I don't believe componentry has improved that much, but for sure the quality across the board is much better.

>>243129
If you want to have a better time descending, you have to be active on the bike. This means being in a good stance and pumping/jumping/unweighting the bike over rocks and such - you should hardly be pedaling. When you get used to this idea, it opens up a whole new dimension of riding and it's good fun. There's a reason why thousands of people fly out to Whistler and the French Alps

>>243209
no, what i'm saying is that i dont even like going downhill on paved bicycle trails lmao, let alone mountainbiking
there is a famous trail behind my house where 3 people have died recently

>>243231
>paved bicycle trails
Why are you in a mtb thread if you are not mtbing, you are not even shitting on mtb bc its not mtb what you are refering to. The there's are roadie thread in /n/ and /sp/

Hey do you guys pack any first aid supplies into your bag? Im wondering its its worth it to bring a few items or will i just be lugging around extra weight.

I was considering getting chinesium sam splint and a few other things like bandage tape.

>>236990 (OP)
>> What good bike can I get for under $3000?
>https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/produits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/602/capra-mx-uncaged-10/
-ACK
>Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it.
>> What are the excellent value brands?
>Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike
>YT-ACK!
>>243288
Nop, if I die I die. I even stopped carrying my hip pack
>wallet, phone, keys
In short's pocket
>water bottle
Frame mount
>tools
Frame mount
>bars, zipties, schrader-presta adapter, small red light to not get rear ended at night
In-frame storage
You can't carry anything for serious injuries so why bother. The rest is not serious and can be dealt with at home. You can take 3m steristrips for lacerations though. The rest just leave it in the car or gaslight someone else to carry it. There's always someone with a backpack that's ready for the end of the world

>>243294 #
Good to know. I wasnt to crazy about the idea of carrying extra stuff. I probably wont bother carring too much. I usually see a few riders on the trail so worst case scenario where someone is seriously maimed, help isnt that far away. Though, our trail like most other MTB trails is little bit remote..

>hip pack

Yea, I just ordered one of these. I put my, phone, I.D., multi-tool, Co2 and keys in there. It has a little elastic loop on the side for small 15 ounce water bottle. I have a big
21 ounce on the bike frame.. im still trying to figure out how much hydration i need to bring on the trail but that seems to cover most rides for now. The extra little one is nice.

I thought my hip pack was really great until a large winged insect flew down my shirt and couldn't get out thanks to the hip pack acting as a belt around the bottom of my shirt..

I had to stop and unclip the damn thing to let the bug out. After that I rode with it under my shirt but the strap to hip pack is uncomfortable when its directly around my belly.

Anyway, i have mixed feelings about it now but still like the hip pack

>>243297
Hip packs suck btw, stupid fad that refuses to die. Bolt and strap as much shit to your frame as possible and get a vest hydration pack thing for when you need the water. USWE and evoc make "bike" ones but runners use the same thing so there are probably other cheaper options. Oneup, granite, crank bros, wolf tooth all make nice stuff that lets you shove important things various places on your bike. For me it's a oneup pump with the edc tool and a tubeless plug kit inside, literally all you need + it can move between bikes

>>243324
I may figure out how to move away from the hip pack later.

Here's my multi tool and inflator. I buy cheap shit. Tiny object and rock bros ratchet multitool. That chinesum tool is sold under various brand names. I just bought the cheapest I could find. I have a small under saddle pack to store a few small things like this.. my last ride i used the hip pack for everything.


Really, what im considering doing is taking one of my old beat up cell phones and mount it on my handlebars. It would be nice to see my trail forks app all the time. Id just connect it up to my Hotspot on my main phone. But then im lugging around the weight of two phones. Was thinking of using an ancient little old first android that I ever bought. Hopefully it even works with the app.

>>243324
>Bolt and strap as much shit to your frame as possible
I agree
>Hip packs sucks
>get a vest hydration pack
Dumb take.
You move weight up your back rather than near to your center of mass. Jumping changes alot when you use hip pack and much more with backpacks. When you put effort and sweat, you can't stand riding with it that you end up removing it. Water sloshes around and the inertia pulls you a bit but enough for you to notice it. Hip packs have problem with jumping when they are heavy with water but its nothing if you just carry light stuff.
>>243297
Just use the water bottle, no need for hydration packs unless you do XC for long distances and just cruise around. In autumn, winter and spring a water bottle alone is more than enough for all rides. In summer it gets tight, if anything I just use a creek or fountain near a building.

Are floating rotors a scam? I'm thinking of going with magura's MDRP rotor in 220mm. My 203 2.3mm rotors from formula keep warping a bit while hot. If I ride nonstop and drag the brakes then both rotors start rubbing the pads. Either it cools down and stops or stays like that and I have to bend them back.
Or simply by going up to 220mm it will stop as they wont get as hot? Which is what I think. Only con regarding MDRPs, if true, is that the rotors seem to make noise when they move

>>243341
are you carrying a 20L water tank on your back? Vest packs carry like one liter of water, its totally imperceptible and doesn't bounce around like a hip pack does. I simply do not believe a couple pounds, no matter where it is, will make any sort of difference for jumping

>>243324
>>243325
It refuses to die because it's a decent solution over carrying a backpack. Unless you're just shuttling up and down a trail near your car or fortunate enough to ride anywhere with a chairlift, you're going to be on rides where you have too much in small items (food, extra water, car keys, etc...) to just strap to your frame. And carrying any weight on your back is far more perceptible than 2 kilos on your centre of gravity. I've never been on a ride where I think "fuck I wish I didn't have to wear this shit"

>>243345
stop dragging your brakes pussy nigga

>>243271
i live next door to the ibis and santa cruz bike facilities you fucking retarded faggot, first off, so watch your tone
secondly, i am interested in the mountain faggot cultture, and so far i am correct in my assumptions'
i qm not a hateful person im just 3 bottles of wine deep forgive me

>>243350
2L when filled to the brim which was never the case. You feel everything on the back. With everything in/bolted in the frame is like like going raw and coming inside a girl that you really like and likes you back alot. It's amazing, you'l never use a back/hip pack ever again.
On the back, you really feel the difference while jumping and in general riding. The hip packs removed the general riding discomfort.
>>243354
No

>>243354 #
Im doing this on my hardtail entiat tr8. Im hoping the mew bike with slacker headtube and full sus give more confidence.

>>243456
the only thing that can give you more confidence is better riding and knowledge of the terrain
always give it a test ride before going full power

went racing for the first time. Huge full speed front-tuck ejection crash on one stage and then kept fucking up after that but still north of last place in the top mens category. Stupid going full gas first race + first ride on a bike + no preride + wet course but I lived so whatever
>>243454
I agree that carrying nothing is infinitely better and ride this way 99.9% of the time but there is a very clear winner having used good hip packs and good vest packs. I think most agree, I don't really see any "in the know" guys riding with hip packs anymore. I can say for certain that wearing one in no way affects my riding, maybe if you are a 3 year old child it could throw off the weight balance but we are talking about the weight of a full face helmet, or a chest protector
>>243366
roadies are fucking deranged. What compels someone to dress up like The Biggest Faggot the World has Ever Seen and then go CBT yourself in public while begging to get run over by a car?

>>243512
i just wear my normal running shorts + whatever shirt i was already wearing that day (generally just a dickies pocket t-shirt) and old running shoes
i dont know why people put on the plastic suits, you really don't need it just to bicycle + you are wearing a literal trash bag

>>243512
>roadies are fucking deranged.
what of it?

>What compels someone to dress up like The Biggest Faggot the World has Ever Seen

I could write books about the good reasons to kit up but only one phrase about the reason not to. Instead let me ask one simple question; if you could dress like a retard and that would automatically send every feature while signaling supernatural confidence to trail hos, would you?

>>243514
MTB shoes are defintiely nicer than ordinary sneakers for flat pedals. You can change your position on the pedals more easily. I have Shimano SH-GF400 flat mtb shoes. I found some discounted on ebay

>>237461
is it though? that headtube looks hella long

>"start with a hardtail anon, it will teach you things!"
>fast forward ten years
>get my first full-squish
>learn that riding a hardtail is a complete waste of time

>>243645
The switch wasn't supposed to be after 10 years dude. 2 max if you barely ride.
I bet that after 10 years you have much better riding position thab thise who started on full squish. Heel position, body movement, legs, arms everything. I always a 40yr old mid life crisis boomers on full squish ebike that rides with a rigid body and the bike bottoms out on a single rock.
>he doesn't excercise on the way up
>nor he does on the way down

>>243514
Get some sticky rubber shoes (i.e. 5.10 bike or approach shoes) or even some skate shoes. With the slightest bit of moisture, running shoes are just going to slide around on the pedal and you're going to lose a massive amount of control - not that you have much to begin with. Contact points are really important, like you wouldn't ride with greasy, awkward handlebar grips where your palm is sliding around, forcing you to constantly re-adjust. Honestly it makes a world of difference.

Clothing is not important, but having a good helmet and shoes is non-negotiable imo

>>243645
Nigga, hardtails are great fun. How could they be a 'waste of time'

>>243522
>>243706
well they aren't really old running shoes i suppose, my ex's brother worked at the nike headquarters in portland and gave me some funky custom shoes that were prototyped in their lab
i dont know anything about sneakers but they are pretty fun looking and stick to the pedals really well, almost annoyingly so haha

>>243767
>nike

some weird japanese brand?

>>243768
yeah one of those gook shoes

>>243770
Nike is an american brand. You dont have nike where you live? are you from Turkmenistan or something?

>>243898
@grok please summarise this post

Bonnell 750, are the forks and shock interchanable with higher quality forks and shocks, or only specific to that bike/

>>244276
Yeah check the spec sheet. Shock head tube dropouts are all the most common mtb standards. Just don't get a Manitou dorado because it has a max head tube length

I want to ride one of those things. Probably feels like shit on anything besides super fast dh tracks but imagine the self shuttle laps and the aneurysms it'll give trail police boomers

>>244276
>>244280

just find a demo day or something. a lot of people think of e-bikes as free power but the reality is a lot more nuanced than that especially when you start considering technical terrain and high-speed handling. you have a lower center of gravity but a much higher moment of inertia and a whole lot more mass to shift around. I would strongly rec not buying any particular e-bike without riding it in the places that you plan on riding it because the differences between two similar ebikes are a lot more significant than the differences between two similar bikes.

>>244319 #
Yea, ive been wondering how it really feels to ride such a heavier bike. At 60 lbs it must feel like a heavy and clunky pos.

>>244342
it's different fun but certainly not less fun. some of the early park bikes got that heavy. you do tend to wear out components faster. there can be a lot of differences between powertrain, battery voltage, and how/when/how much power the whole system is tuned to apply that you can't necessarily change so it's important to try out a few different brands to get a sense of what you want before dropping four figures.

Blogpost
>in the flow state in autumn
>coming hot on the inside line to do the chute after the turn
>wet support root under leaves
>fly into the chute
Ragdolled the way down, winded, and hit face the roots protruding. Hand/wrist kill. Left one sprained badly and right hand with a small sprain.
Man, I'm gonna miss the best time of the year to ride. Cold, compact dirt from sept showers, dry and not too many fallen leaves. I really wanted to seriously focus on PRs

i went to the lake placid UCI DH
it was pretty cool
I wish i could go to the MSA one but I don't have a passport or enhanced loisense

>>239926
its such a meme that XC riders are slow on tech or descending
Swenson absolutely dusted the guy that came in 5th at megavalanche this year on the DH course of downieville last year

super athletic people are just good at everything with bikes