Thread 243371

BIKES!

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/

>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

>Oyakata channel
https://www.youtube.com/@親方ちゃんねる公式/videos

>Beya Youtube channels:
>Futagoyama
https://www.youtube.com/@futagoyama-sumofood
>Isegahama
https://www.youtube.com/@isegahamabeya
>Kise
https://www.youtube.com/@kisebeya
>Tatsunami
https://www.youtube.com/@tatsunami-beya
>Tamanoi
https://www.youtube.com/@sumo-tamanoibeya
>Hidenoyama
https://www.youtube.com/@hidenoyama
>Oshima
https://www.youtube.com/@oshimabeya
>Minato
https://www.youtube.com/@湊部屋どすこいチャンネル
>Shikoroyama
https://www.youtube.com/@shikoroyamabeya
>Asakayama
https://www.youtube.com/@浅香山部屋公式チャンネル
>Takasago
https://www.youtube.com/@TAKASAGOSUMOTEAM高砂部屋

Previous thread: >>241862

WE ARE SO BACK

Hoshoryu losing the yusho after that disgraceful henka is perfectly fine for me.
A shame Waka lost his ozeki chance but he'll get another nex tyear i bet.
Aonishiki is cruising for the most consistent ozeki of all time.

Kotoshoho was disgraceful. Yusho hangover whatever sure but not fucking 12 losses

Do they always keep handing random shit to the yusho winner for 30 minutes after the last fight?

>>243374
Yes. What color was it?

>>243375
Green

>>243376
I wonder what flavor that would be. Pistachio?

>>243374
Yup. those are given by random orgs or countries. Like the arabs giving a year worth of gas, or the french giving the macarons.

There's also the president cup that was given during one of Trump visit to jump back with Abe. Some obscure weirdo won that basho

>>243377
Matcha probably.

>>243379
Could be. French macarons though.

S east- Aonishiki
S west- Oho
K east- Takanosho
K west- Hakuoho
M1 Takayasu+ Wakamotoharu
M2 WTK + Kirishima
M3 Hiradoumi + Tamawashi

>>243385
fuck forgot about ura. hes probably gonna be m3 instead of tamawashi

All around great basho. Glad both Yokozuna had a strong showing. Although some of Hoshoryu's wins were a little disappointing. However, I am a henka hater, so I have strong feelings there. Wakatakakage and Kirishima... Whatever happened there? I wonder if they will save one of them from falling too far, or if they will give Komusubi to Hakuoho. He's earned it.

>GGs on taking the big guy down twice
>GGs on taking the mong down twice

OONOSATO won

Honshoryu wins the first match by pushing and thrusting Onosato out
Onosato wins the playoff with a throw

>>243392
Bit of a stretch to call that a throw but sure.

>>243393
>>243392
It wasn't. Yoritaoshi. Frontal crush out.
Funny enough, it was what I predicted for the kimarite of the first bout. >>>/sp/151033781

>>243394
Makes sense.

Ohobros, we actually had a decent basho. Hope he doesn't shit himself in november that but that's been how it goes after his better showings.

>>243378
The most cursed image

>>243397
He was 4-4 after day 8 and that was all of the sanyaku. In week 2, he won all the matches he was expected to. He was pretty commanding against the rest of the joi. Nothing seemed particularly fluky.

His progress is always frustratingly slow, but there’s always progress.

Hoshoryu fans are finally showing their true colours after today. Evil people.

>>243400
>pic
Crazy, how can you watch the replay and say that? The mono-ii was given out of pity.

Imagine being this obsessed over some random redditor, jesus christ

>>243394
but at least he wasnt just pressing W on his keyboard, you know what i meant
its just a shitty meme ._.

Sumofoodbros... they totally collapsed this basho

my fav hiro quote is "what a sumo!"

>>243400
Please stop bringing that trash here.

>>243404
Takahara jinxed them when he talked about winning the championship. 4-3 in Jonokuchi. Sad.

>>243404
I can't wait for the mopey slopkino. Hoping Roga assaults the cameraman.

I hope Zak is okay but I really wished he would go the Terunofuji route and get knee surgery being he’s safe from kadoban he could sit out the next a year and not fall extremely far like teru. Teru fell so far because he started his rehab at sekiwake.

The aura

THE AURA

>>243371 (OP)
SO close!
Accepting recommendations for writing next cup's bingo card.

>>243411
Kirishima chokes (Free space)
Shishi does an ineffective face slap
Fujinokawa lifts someone out of the ring

welcome back baruto?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5S8Y92A39Y

>>243411
>Oho chokes at sanyaku again
>Ura kinboshi
>Gonoyama 10+ wins
>Kotoshoho gets demoted to juryo

>Yeah, get me an attire that looks professional, subdued, something that gives me an aura of respect while evoking reverence to the sport.
>I know exactly what you mean

>>243414
>ai generated

>>243415
he probably did it himself

>>243413
So this is the gaijin I saw on Hidenoumi-beyas IG post

>>243414
>Ai slop tiger

>>243414
That is really bad. Surely someone at his heya could have stopped this.

>>243414
>>243416

>чaт гeпэтэ generate me epic scari lion with lightning and my name шиши

>>243418
>tiger

>>243373
>Kotoshoho

what's the worst record a winner has gotten on his next tournament?

>>243414
i kinda like it

>>243408
I wouldn't even bet on him beating the cameraman

>>243423
>>243426
Oops, also Wakanami in the 60s. 2-13

>>243423
it's a 3way tie between Wakanami, Takatoriki, and Kyokutenho all at 2-13. The problem with this is that Kotoshoho is now the single runner-up in terms of literally diarrheaing on the banzuke after a yusho.

>>243429
which is still abysmal dogshit*

>>243429
At least he stuck it out instead of going kyujo out of shame.

>>243431
I wouldn't really count those because of the fact that it's possible for said list of guys shitting themselves to STILL do better than whatever the fuck kotoshoho put up.

>>243432
They didn't though.

This is fucked. I cant find a way how to fit guys like Kinbozo and Roga yet. Why does it seem like everybody has a makekoshi and will have to be promoted instead?

>>243435
At 2-7 I think it might be a bit early for those kind of edits

>>243442
yeah if anything it should be zak laughing at horse

>>243440
Dispose of annoying banzuke complications by saying that they're the ones that will get stabbed to death in London next month.

>>243435
>>243437
you'll never be a japanese anyway, weeb.

>>243445
Got him.

>>243442
You're right. Pardon me.

>>243448
Those two grimacing Onosatos at the bottom? That's how Zak's knees feel right now

>>243448
Hoshoryu can defeat Onosharto all he wants but he will never win another yusho

>>243442
I truly think Onosato will never beat Hoshoryu head-to-head lifetime, but he'll end up with like 5x more yusho so it doesn't really matter much.

>>243445
Not an argument. Horseshit lost.

>>243458
Tied.

>>243414
Reminds me of the black button up shirts with flames at the bottom we wore in middle school.

>>243463
Base Guy Fieri

Hoshoryu impressed this tournament, but he'll be back to dispensing kinboshi next tournament. He's done.

>>243408
>Roga vs "Staff"
>"Staff" defeats him
>another MK for Roga...

>Gonoyama 1-14
What's in store for him?

>>243413
>anatoly
>estonian

>>243423
terunofuji with multiple consecutive 0-15s after a win

>>243479
Nothing, it happens. Someones gotta lose.
He can be glad he didn't get added to the 15 losses in makuuchi list.

>>243481
0-0-15*

Say what you want about the henka, but this was genuinely the best yokozuna performance in five years. Most people are going to forget about the henka and the fusensho thanks to Hosh forcing a playoff and the playoff itself being pretty close.

/sumo/ on did 7 threads this 'sho, thats a substantial drop off over 20% compared to recent bashoes. all of the gains we made this year seem to have evaporated, why is /sumo/ hemorrhaging clients? we need to solve this problem somehow or other if layoffs are going to be avoided, who has some suggestions?

>>243489
>this was genuinely the best yokozuna performance in five years
we haven't had any yokozunæ for most of that time, teru was absent more than he was present, host kyujos half the time and onosato is only on his 2nd yokozuna basho

>>243490
One word: clown show

>>243490
Kotozakura did OK, so I couldn't complain often and loudly how fraudulent his rank is

>>243490
Summer ended, so there are fewer kids raising the post count. We don't want them anyway.

>>243490
we need to milk the danposters vs anti-danners schism to create controversy and generate post count, if we do so I project we can create 11-4 more threads than we're currently producing

Onosato is now halfway to being a dai yokozuna and he hasn't even been in the top division two full years yet

>>243496
I know, it's gay as fuck.

>>243496
Quite literally the choosen one im starting to think if he was around in hakuho’s era hak wouldn’t have gotten 45 titles.


I also hate Mongolians so im biased

>>243498
>>243496
Onosato is what Takakeisho would've been had he been 8 inches taller.
I'm not saying this as a pejorative by the way, the two are similar in the sense of having a relatively limited fighting style yet being fantastic enough at that fighting style for one to be yokozuna and the other to be one win away from yokozuna.

>>243499
Takanoshō would have looked so cool with the tsuna

>>243503
he would've look retarded because he would've missed or kyujo'd more bashos than he finished and half those finishes would've been 9-6 or worse. he was barely adequate as ozeki

>>243388
The easy explanation is that on the tour Kiri broke his wrist and Waka rolled his ankle. They looked like shadows of themselves (though not as bad as poor Abi), so I'd bet on them back at 9+ wins next basho unless their age is finally catching up to them.

>>243433
This is one of those cursed pictures where you see something you're not supposed to and then death comes after you. Top hat guy is a supernatural entity.

>>243433
large sushi

Dan and his assistant Anhibiki cleverly using their bodies to spell out the number 11 to commemorate Dan's 4th consecutive 11 win top division performance

>>243513
Very clever indeed

I still like Hosh, strong showing, seems losing to Aonishki kind of rattled him a bit, stopped trying to do what was working and tried to overpower again which isn't his strong suit.
Good luck to him on his next basho.

>>243414
>the everyday life you take for granted will one day crumble

>>243433
How come some guys get 2 fishes and others only get one?

>>243519
I didn't know zebras could go that hard

>>243490
To be perfectly honest /sumo/ is the one general that detracts from rather than enhances my kino viewing experience, every other interest I have be it sport or something else is fun to engage with on this site but sumo marks the one exception. It is plagued with spiteful, meanspirited, humorless autists that drown out fun and funny voices. Paragraphs and paragraphs of name-calling arguments doesn't make for comfy threads

>>243529
Yeah the last year or so has been rough.
I'm done fighting, I'm just here for the pictures and the occassional noticeably rational poster.
I mourn history anon every day.

>>243517
>stopped trying to do what was working
Not much was working all that great, he wasn't dominating his matches like Onosato did, a lot of his wins were close calls. Tamawashi almost got him, so did Kotoshoho & Hiradoumi, Hosh was lucky to get to 11-0, but the two victories he picked up after that were both decisive.

>>243529
>>243532
people who complain about the quality of content on user generated content websites invariably ignore the fact that they themselves are necessarily part of the problem they're complaining about.
why do you feel entitled to receive good content if you don't put out the effort to deliver good content?
given that you're demonstrably incapable of delivering good content, how can you claim you even have the ability to recognize good content?

>>243534
you aren't wrong but the way you said it is MEGA GAY

>>243371 (OP)
>10 threads
/xs/ BELONGS TO US

>>243529
This is the nicest place I've tried to discuss shit on this site. All my other hobbies are impossible to discuss on this site despite having generals or boards.

>>243529
fuck off then. Seriously, enjoy yourself, elsewhere.

>>243529
Considering how bad most of the site is I find this post to be very difficult to believe, travel over for a moment and click on any thread in /v/ for instance. You seem to have trouble differentiating between people fooling around, trolling, and genuinely hateposting.

Maybe you made a joke and people ignored it and now you are upset I don't know bro.

>>243499
I miss Keisho.

I miss Hokuseiho

hahahaha how tf is Aonishiki even real? Just don't get uchimuso'd lol. Just walk forward lmao.

>>243536
/SUMO/ IS /XS/

>>243549
>I DID MY TIME AND I WANT OUT
>SO EFFUSIVE, FADE, IT DOESN'T CUT
>THE SOUL IS NOT SO VIBRANT

>>243545
/v/ is notoriously dogshit yes, what an illuminating observation. Why don't you compare sumo to any of the dozen other generals on /sp/? Hilarious projection tho

>>243551
I can compare it to most of the generals on /tg/. They're all way worse.

>>243551
They are mostly worse, I think you are just having a moment.

>>243519
Was that like the weekly hawaiian shirt day they had at my dad's office on the 90s?
Those can't be a coincidence
>>243524
holy fuck the zebras

>>243533
nta, but arguably WMH and Takayasu were close calls for Onosato too. I honestly don't think Hosh is ever going to be as dominating as Onosato but this was a pretty good basho for him.

>>243519
Nice.

>>243550
this but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kspPE9E1yGM

>>243499
Nah, Takakeisho's style just wasn't rope-worthy. Every pusher-thruster who ever got the rope did so because they learned to yorikiri. Sure, both yorikiri and oshidashi/tsukidashi can be considered one-note, but yorikiri specifically is the one note that consistently works the best in sumo.

>>243548
>lets a yotsu wrestler secure his preferred grip on the mawashi
>loses
Many such cases.

>>243559
I wonder if this was a case of him being 11-3 and guaranteed sekiwake slot, so Aminishiki just went
>outgrapple him pussy, bet you won't

>>243460
He did not, unless you mean they both went 13-2.

>>243400
Go back and stay there please.

>>243562
Yes. A Yusho equivalent tie.

>>243565
>Yes. A Yusho equivalent tie.
So you're saying he lost the Yusho?

>>243566
He won on senshuuraku, thus ensuring the tie. Correct.
Also, new slop.

>>243561
Embarrassing. Onosato needs to do something about his awful matchup against his archrival.

Meanwhile, Hosh himself has negative records against:
Atamifuji
Chiyoshoma (!!!)
Ichiyamamoto
Oho
Takayasu (and it's not even close!),
among other rikishi who's unlikely to match against him ever again.
Shitton of almost-equal records with rikishi way below his rank.
And 0-2 against Dan2.0
With such performance, I doubt he'll exceed Kakuryu's cup number.

>>243570
>Embarrassing
Forgot to mention. Reminded me of crippled Takakeisho at his lowest. Unacceptable for the rikishi who's being touted as the peak tachiai monster.

>>243573
You haven't heard? It was a tie.

>>243567
>He won on senshuuraku, thus ensuring the tie. Correct.
>Also, new slop.
But he lost the Yusho?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFQB8jLf48A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WtgKkSiiE
RELEASE THE SLOP

>>243570
If you don't win at least 6 (breaking Kaio's win total) then you're not even a real yokozuna.

>>243577
His loss was equivalent to a victory, right.

>>243582
Retard

>>243579
why is the cameraman ignoring Kikuchi apart from showing his training ? Its been months since the last time they talked to eachother. Even during chanko he barely films him.

according to tachiai, dan's conditional outstanding performance was conditional on horse winning rather than on dan winning. can't remember that ever happening before, seems wrong and probably is

>>243591
Makes sense. It's more about beating the tournament winner than just a Yokozuna.

>>243587
I was thinking about this as well, it's strange, but it's not because the cameraman, he isn't filming Mita's bouts either. Kikuchi used to be all up in the camera and suddenly zero. I guess his parents don't want him to express his thoughts, who knows.

>>243529
newfags shitified /sumo/ threads so much, threads used to be very comfy, with actual sumo talk and not some brown /int/ esl tier, we lost some of the greats like sumo historian in the process. I fucking despise the day sumo food channels became a thing. Should've gatekept more.

>>243597
>with actual sumo talk
Go on....

>>243597
beyaslop is generally cancer, but the koga meme is top tier. the only decent part of beyaslop is the opportunity to watch practice matches

>>243599
I mean I did like the one when they went swimming, seeing dudes this big send it down a waterslide was kinda funny

>>243534
I stopped giving a fuck because of you specifically

this is my only post in this thread

>>243604
Best screenshot from the entire basho

>>243599
>koga meme is top tier
its not

I just noticed sumodb has a statistic that shows the average number of kimarite per 50 wins, I think Hoshoryu has the highest in all of current Makuuchi.
I wish there was a way to show it in queries but I don't see one.

>>243613
in bouts you can filter per rikishi and group by kimarite. you just have to do eqch individually unfortunately

>>243577
don't worry, we trained >>243585 wrong as a joke.

yesterday's newspaper: picture of onosato holding the previous day's newspaper

today's newspaper

>>243635
AIIIEEEE STOP STARING INTO MY SOUL ONOSATO-ZEKI!

>>243635
his upper lip is weird, is his philtrum unusually broad or is it something that that strange?

>>243637
Why are you staring at his lips

>>243634
>>243635

the takerufuji comeback will be truly immense

>>243643
Is he coming back with titanium ankles or something?

>>243644
>get to M6
>get injured
>take another 4 month vacation
>never go up against anyone good
>get destroyed by injured asanoyama
>clinch yusho vs gonoyama
a more fragile kotoshoho with skinny calves, redditfags thought he'd dominate because >muh rookie yusho, but he is mid.
dan almost barf'd first time he saw taker's legs, but then dan got over his revulsion and gtfo'd him out of the ring with ease and swiftly.
isegahama is in a pretty sorry state, only performers they have are hand -me-downs from hakuho

>>243609
The main character of /sumo/.

>>243591
The prize is, I believe, awarded for having defeated the overall yusho winner earlier in the basho. This has always been the case.

>>243658
Not always, but usually.

>>243656
Truly /sumo/ mascot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSokAneO2DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-IbmR4T4V4
SLOPPAN DESU

>>243664
I too saw the Chris Sumo vid.
Yokozuna comittee says in regards to Hoshoryu's henka: shut up you stupid plebs, we're right and you're wrong, Hosh is a heckin CUTE and VALID Yokozuna.

Hoshoryu henka didn't happen.
And if it did, WTK deserved it for fucking up his Ozeki run so bad.
Also it will happen again.

>>243667
Also, Hosh uses the henka more than just about anyone else. It’s an integral part of his brand of sumo. If they didn’t like that he henkas, then they shouldn’t have promoted him in the first place.

>>243668
Hosh has zero hinkaku, he is a disgrace

well he lost so the henka doesnt matter too much anyway

>>243667
>>243668
>>243669
Hi, I'm the future Ozeki Kurotaiga, in the year 2156 the time machine will be created and I wanted to use it to come to this time and tell you what will become of Yokozuna Hoshoryu: in one of the sumo tours, in one of those practice matches against children, Hoshoryu will henka a poor boy who runs away, falls from the dohyo and breaks his neck. The president of the JSA, Futagoyama, will consider this incident as the lowest moment in the history of sumo and Hoshoryu will be required to retire.

>>243680
It looks like he's trying to hold in a monster fart to me

>friendship with Wakatakakage is over
>Dan is my new hero
The basho is over, but WakatakaKOGA keeps on losing anyway

top four matches of the 'sho
1 onosato destroys horseshitryu
2 dan destroys horseshitryu
3 (tie) mita wreck'd by asanoyama
3 (tie) zak destroys horseshitryu

>>243371 (OP)
This was my first time watching sumo as a wrestling fag and I can't wait a month and a half. Are there other sumo federations worth following or do all of you just hibernate between tournaments?

>>243688
we watch beya slop

>>243688
>other sumo federations worth following
No.
>just hibernate between tournaments?
Just ganbarize, do your shiko, eat well, and focus on your own style of waiting for the next basho.

>>243688
>I can't wait a month and a half.
I understand. I recommend picking up a book on it. "The Way of Salt" by Ash Warren has a bit of personal touch and tries to explain customs to westerners in an easy to understand way. It's not comprehensive and it's full of his personal opinions. That said, it has a lot of good information. Another I recommend is "The Perfect Guide To Sumo" in japanese and english by Katsuharu Ito, translated by David Shapiro. It's very direct and informational and covers things I haven't found in a lot of other places, especially historic connections and differences. I would recommend 'the perfect guide' first, way of salt if you're still hungry after.

>>243688
We do our best to take it one day at a time and not focus on the basho.

No, nothing else of substance goes on between basho, which is why we spiral further into schizodom between each tournament.

>>243688
You can go to Japan and start competing in regional tournaments and get recruited by a stable. Aonishiki did that. He couldn't wait a month and a half and joined the sumo world and is now an ozeki.

You're all way too nice here compared to the absolute dregs of society over at /pw/
>>243694
I've been looking for a book to read before bed so I can fix my sleep schedule, thank you bro.
>>243696
I wish I had discovered sumo at his age, I'm not too old but any of these sumo wrestlers would twist me into a pretzel.
I'm not very familiar with how the ranking system works but if he's this good at 21 years old, he's gotta be on the road to be a Yokozuna by his mid 20's like Onosato right?

>>243697
The point where your "road to rank X" stops being about you is Ozeki. You can get all the way up there on nothing but 11-4s, as a certain man is likely to demonstrate. But that last step is entirely dependent on whether or not you can be better than everyone else, twice in a row.

>>243697
>I'm not very familiar with how the ranking system works
Sumo is divided into six divisions. The top two, makuuchi and juryo, are the only ones where wrestlers get a regular salary. "Maegashira" is any rank-and-file member of the top division. The guys at the very top are collectively called "sanyaku." Komusubi is the lowest sanyaku rank and easiest to get; if you get winning scores every tournament then you'll eventually make komusubi, even if it's only 8-7. It doesn't matter how many komusubi there are, someone at M1e who finishes 8-7 will get an extra komusubi spot. Sekiwake is when it starts getting a bit harder: there's a minimum of two spots so if someone drops out then someone lower will get promoted to take their place, but if there's already two or more sekiwake then a komusubi needs 11+ wins to force an extra sekiwake spot.

Ozeki is the most complicated. Someone needs to already be sekiwake and a record of "high success" over the past three tournaments. 33 wins over three tournaments is a typical rule of thumb, but it also depends on the quality of their competition, quality of their sumo, and whether or not the rankings committee likes them. Once you're ozeki, you need to win the title twice in a row to make yokozuna, or have one win and one "equivalent" runner-up. What's considered "equivalent" is likewise vague, but regardless it means you need to be at minimum the second-best guy in the tournament with a strong record.

>>243701
And the worst part: very few of these rules are written down and/or consistently applied so everyone is constantly guessing.

>>243690
I don't

>>243698
Twice in a row doesn't sound that hard to be honest, I mean looking at other sports it's not uncommon for a team in peak form to win two or even more league titles in a row for example unless I'm misunderstanding what these "two" actually are.
>>243705
Your explanation makes a lot of sense, until we get to this gray area you're talking about. Do the big wigs behind sumo take advantage of this to promote sumo wrestlers they want to "push"?

>>243698
>that last step is entirely dependent on whether or not you can be better than everyone else, twice in a row.
horseryu never has and never will do that

>>243709
yusho winners have to spend the period between their victory and the next basho getting drunk with their supporters clubs so the 2nd victory is more challenging

>>243709
>Twice in a row doesn't sound that hard to be honest
In a combat sport, it’s a lot. Otherwise there would be a lot more yokozunas.
For nearly all of these guys, they are beaten to a pulp by the end of a tournament and they are able to ease off the gas a little for the next one. If you’re going for Yokozuna, you have to dive right back in at the highest degree.
Moreover, since you’re an ozeki, your 15 matches will literally be the hardest possible schedule. You don’t get to Smurf against the lower maegashitters.

>>243709
>Do the big wigs behind sumo take advantage of this to promote sumo wrestlers they want to "push"?
Sort of. They tend to be more lenient to the senior, well-established guys over the new up-and-comers.
Conspiracy theorists will claim that some wrestlers are held down unfairly due to collusion by the elders, but it usually just comes down to seniority like everything else is in Japan.

>>243696
>tags asian, ffm, cheerleader, bbu (big beautiful ukranian)

>>243715
What tags would Shishi be?

>>243687
i can find a webm (from the most recent sumo post on /sp) for the championship matches obv
any anon can make a webm of the other 3?

>>243717
>homo erectus
>ugly bastard
>leglock
>unusual pupils
>mom
>netorare
>juryo yusho

>>243717
paleolithic, neanderthal, caveman

>>243718
>>>/wsg/5981613 an anon already did #2

>>243688
Watch Dosukoi on NHK. They've had episodes out regularly for a while, but there seems to be a gap now.

>>243717
>What tags would Shishi be?

All sumo wrestlers can be put into one of three categories:
>Lummox
>Galoot
>Oaf

Shishi is probably an oaf, but a case can be made for him being a lummox.

>>243722
ty

>>243697
>I'm not very familiar with how the ranking system works
It's simple if you ignore the parts that aren't

The guy who runs the /xs/ 4cc team is asking about the players again, /sumo/ has two players in the roster (Hakuho and Bikeposting), so if you wanna see someone being represented in the team go there >>243670

>>243730
Koga

BIG smiles :D :) and a slav half smile :]

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/10/01/kiji/20251001s00005000028000c.html

S C A N D A L ! ! !

I know it's a weird question but does anyone have any pictures of like a spooky sumo wrestler

>>243743
define 'spooky'

>>243742
beyaslop taught me hair dressers aren't even needed

>>243742
trustworthy lookin fella

>>243745
Heres spooky keisho nuking another rikishi with gaze

>>243748
I'd consider this pretty spooky

>>243743
o_|

STOP BEING MEAN TO SHISHI

>>243696
Actually you have to be under a certain age to join pro as a beginner. I think it's 26. If anon is 27 he's out of luck and can no longer be a professional Sumo wrestler.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/2d21afc7964d49b54c4a270d088eeb0ef1b800de
Takarafuji intai, taking the elder name Kiriyama.

>>243761
That takes away the only current vacancy, meaning everyone else needs to wait for an elder to retire.

What happens if you're loaning out your kabu but you intend to retire?

>>243763
The other guy needs to find a new one, or retire.

>>243697
>if he's this good at 21 years old, he's gotta be on the road to be a Yokozuna
You'd think so, but Sumo has a long history of fire hot rikishi gaining rank and suddenly stopping their climb, losing their mojo, or getting injured and falling back down the ranks.

>>243761
>Takarafuji intai

Knew that was coming soon enough. He's been battered and broken as fuck for a long time now.

Hope he enjoys his intai.

>>>/sp/151045170
uchimuso

>>243759
oh yeah, Yarden's whole situation

JSA should be announcing promotions to juryo soon

>>243759
23 for beginners, 25 if they qualify for tsukedashi.

the next Chris video is gonna be awesome

>>243776
Nobody gives a fuck about Yarden, and rightfully so.

>>243779
I'm looking forward to Chris's extended and in depth coverage of the London tour stop since his family pretty much owns the Japan society of London or whatever the name of the host organization is.

>>243777
>new
Nagamura (now Hyugamaru)
Goshima (now Fujiryoga)
>returning
Kitanowaka
Wakanosho

Kiss now has as many sekitori as Iseghama
H O W E V E R
Iseghama's are all in makuuchi except Taker so they will maintain first place on the sumo stable power rankings

>>243761
Man, I kinda hoped he'd be back in Makuuchi at some point, loved seeing this dude fight

>>243683
i lol'd

>>243743
Spooky?

>>243728
It's sad how big the joi is these days.

>>243794
its only up to m4. m5+ got like 2 sanyaku bouts each

>>243796
With Daieisho out it was up to M5e this basho. Kotozakura's status is up in the air, but I expect it to be the same or worse in November.

POV: You flamed Hoshoryu's henka on social media

>>243807
UN
DIGNIFIED

>>243766
People start talking about yokozuna the moment a newcomer performs well, that's true. I do think Aonishiki showcases the kind of drive we haven't seen with any of the others, though. Time will tell.

>>243794
Yeah, there was a basho in the early 2000s with no M15e on the banzuke, that's how big the sanyaku was. Now guys from positions that shouldn't even exist are taking cups like once a year.

>>243809
>People start talking about yokozuna the moment a newcomer performs well,
Remember the Takerusato era?

>>243810
Remember the Takerufuji era?

We need a real bingo for next time. Bingo isn't supposed to be a list of rare shit; someone is supposed to actually win with the fun being the randomness of who gets it first. They have to be more achievable than a triple matta, wheelchair, or mizu-iri. It's also more fun if different people have things others don't.

I'm gonna be slowly compiling a big ass list of things I think of and hope you'll play along with me for the next basho :3c

>>243812
Things that happen regularly:
Oho beats a yokozuna/ozeki, loses to an M10+ in the same basho

>>243813
That feels too wordy and a specific rikishi getting a kinboshi seems a bit far since in total we had 1 kinboshi last basho. It wouldn't be the worst thing if it extended beyond Makuuchi too. Some things I like so far are

>Kinboshi (Onosato)
>Kinboshi (Hoshoryu)
>WTK > WMH
>WTK < WMH
>Koga Makekoshi
>Asanoyama Promotion

If you want something semi-regular for Oho I could add one for his forehead scar re-opening. Maybe change the blood one for blood (nose) then add blood (Oho).

>>243814
Problem with the middle two is that you have to wait for the basho to be pretty much over to determine them. The bottom two are just way too specific.

>>243815
Specific is fine if it's something with a good chance of happening imo. I just don't consider an Oho kinboshi likely enough to warrant a spot. I'd say it needs an over 50% chance of happening at LEAST, and preferably way higher. Remember, in normal bingo every number WILL come out eventually. Like how Asakoryu has been so henka happy lately that it's probably a safe bet I can put henka (Asakoryu) on there. Also since I intend for there to be more options for boxes than 24 you can keep generating bingo boards until you get one you like.

>>243816
if you can do a generator, arrange them into rarity tier lists so everyone ends up with X number of freebies, Y number of near impossibles etc

>>243816
You just contradicted yourself though. In normal bingo, the numbers don't have a greater than 50% chance of coming out in one game.

I suppose it's best to avoid things that can only be confirmed at the very end of the basho and replace them with things from maybe 2/3 of the way through, like the Yokozuna and Dan getting their 8th win. I also like the idea of putting in attempts at rare kimarite as opposed to winning via them. Last time the bingo had tsuridashi but afaik despite a couple of attempts no one pulled it off. We could say the same about uchimuso too since I believe Dan only did it to Atamin and that match ended in a torinaoshi.

>Dan's 8th Win
>Onosato's 8th Win
>Hoshoryu's 8th Win
>Tsuridashi Attempt
>Uchimuso Attempt
>Abi Flowchart Win

>>243818
Only because the game ends.

>>243817
If you have a generator that can do rarities sure, but people can still generate a bunch and just take the best one. I'd also have to post the full list in order to get opinions about rarity, which could detract from the fun of seeing boxes for the first time and taking your first generate.

>>243819
>Only because the game ends.
Yeah no shit. That's how bingo works. It's not supposed to be everybody wins.

>like the Yokozuna and Dan getting their 8th win
This is a good idea. Yokozuna KK on day 8 is good.

>>243820
>It's not supposed to be everybody wins
Yeah but I can't stop people from ticking off boxes after the first poster gets a line. Ideally the first poster would get it day 10 or thereabouts. I wonder if the days that regular guest commentators appear is sufficiently random to add something like commentator (Aoiyama).

>>243821
Don’t we want these things to be even slightly funny?
>yokozuna starts 8-0
Isn’t particularly funny
>Oho bleeds from his forehead
Is funny

>>243822
Funny is good as long as it can reasonably happen, like a gyoji falling over. If it won't realistically happen you aren't playing bingo; you're just writing a list of le epic maymays.

Glad others are showing interest in writing the bingo cards, because I really didn't know what I was doing. I got the idea from the rallying threads on /sp/, so looking toward those might help.

Here's some less win-orientated ones then:

Hair Pull
Gyoji Falls Over
Kinboshi (Wakanohana)
Ura Does a Thing
Commentator (Takakeisho)
Mawashi Tie Break

It's also kinda tough to come up with dumb shit that can happen in sumo when the JSA prides itself on having a stick up its ass and things not going wrong or being silly.

>Clear shinitai being called judge favoritism by fans
>Dan gets/doesnt get 11-4
>Onosato pulls and loses
>Cyborg knees Zak

>>243823
>you're just writing a list of le epic maymays
That's what I came for.

Shinpan bowling on specific shinpan sounds fun. Winning /sumo/ bingo by Kisenosato getting a fatso to the face would get put on my resume.

>>243828
>uncle mean-tweets nephew within an hour of a bad loss
>shishi attempts harite, misses completely.
>former maegshira mainstay goes intai before nakabi.
>tobizaru tweets himself into the crowd
>hiradoumi machine-gun belly bumps
>midorifuji katasukashi

>>243832
Lmao I actually already had Asashoryu Hoshposting on my list.

>>243832
>* tobizaru YEETS himself

Up to 39 things for bingo. Everyone's boards will be completely different at this rate lmao.

>>243836
Imagine how many more things you'll be able to add once the banzuke has been revealed!

>>243837
Probably not many desu.

>>243833
He doesn't do that anymore, not befitting the hinkaku of a yokozuna

Tochinoshin is skinny now btw

>>243839
Asa doesn't care what others think, my man.

>>243842
burning my tochinoshin tegata

>>243844
>two dudes

Neat.

>A hairdresser at Nishonoseki has been caught doing fraud
>But that's okay because Nishonoseki is Japanese :)

>>243847
Isn’t the JSA going to provide him with a “consultant” to help him with stable management?

>>243848
No the entire thing is retarded. It's not Kisenosato's fault if someone else commits crime. What, should he be personally combing the finances of everyone associated with his stable? When anyone actually doing something bad would be actively hiding it? I think this is just another example of Chris being a faggot and trying to stir shit.

>>243846
He has the optimal sumo build. I can see him going far.

>>243847
Hakuho was put under higher management because he attempted to lie to and mislead higher authorities in order to save face for himself and cover up the problems at his stable which were partially the result of his own negligence and absenteeism. He wouldn't have suffered so badly if he had behaved in a trustworthy manner.
Kisenosato does not engage in similar underhanded behavior and alerted the bosses as to what was going on as soon as he found out about it himself.
Foreigners who screech "muh racism" every time they're not allowed to flaunt authority is one of the best arguments for keeping foreigners out of sumo altogether.

>>243849
Chris is a racist, he is constantly accusing only the Japanese of misdeeds and never laying blame on anyone else.

>Bingo list so far

Dan's 8th Win
Onosato's 8th Win
Hoshoryu's 8th Win
Nosebleed
Oho Bleeds
Torinaoshi
Loss to Juryo
Fusen
Onosato Kinboshi
Hoshoryu Kinboshi
Koga's 2nd Win
Asakoryu Henka
Chiyoshoma Henka
Abi Flowchart Win
M1 Makekoshi
Shishi Twerk
Tsuridashi Attempt
Uchimuso Attempt
Hair Pull
Gyoji Falls Over
Wakanohana Kinboshi
Ura Does a Thing
Takakeisho Commentary
Mawashi Tie Break
Unforced Error
Shinpan Bowling (Kisenosato)
Shinpan Bowling (Futagoyama)
Shinpan Bowling (Naruto)
Shinpan Bowling (Oshima)
Shinpan Bowling (Kakuryu)
Shinpan Bowling (Aminishiki)
Onosato Panic Pull
Asashoryu Hoshpost
Hiradoumi Belly Bump Win
Katasukashi Attempt
Manlet v Manlet
Waka Rope Heroics
Tobizaru YEET
Someone Changes Mawashi

Anything look overtly bad? Remember that you only get 24 of these and there's 39 here so far.

Now that I think about it, a loss to Juryo isn't a gimme since we don't have a guaranteed injury so might not even get Juryo guys fighting up in the first place, and M1 makekoshi is sort of lame since it could come so late in the basho.

>>243854
Fujinokawa lifts someone
Gonoyama gets -nage'd
Roga MK
Tamawashi beats a sanyaku
Abi wins by henka 2+ times
Oho beats a 'zuna
Dan wins by a sub 1% rarity kimarite

>>243854
Audience bowling (at least 3 knocked over)

>>243857
>Fujinokawa lifts someone
Yeah I can see that, added.
>Gonoyama gets -nage'd
Added.
>Roga MK
Roga is such an odd case. Before September he's had four 7-8s in Makuuchi, and only been demoted once off them. Going off Spiffy's instant banzuke video he's going to survive demotion on 7-8 AGAIN. I wouldn't say he's guaranteed a makekoshi, but "Roga Isn't Demoted" is something I'd put on the list if I wanted it to run that long. Sadly KK/MK just takes too long to confirm desu. Ideally this stuff will happen day 10 at latest.
>Tamawashi beats a sanyaku
Likely landing at Hiradoumi's current spot, where he started facing Sanyaku day 6. This works.
>Abi wins by henka 2+ times
Nope. He didn't henka once last month so the odds of him winning twice are basically zero. I already have him getting a single flowchart win on there anyway.
>Oho beats a 'zuna
Too slim imo. Him losing to both would be a decent addition, but it took until way too late in the basho for S1w to face both Zunas last time.
>Dan wins by a sub 1% rarity kimarite
I already have uchimuso attempt on there. I'll replace it with this.

>>243858
I like it. We're at 40.

Having completed a basho at sanyaku rank, Dan now qualifies to own JSA elder stock and he is now participating in fund raising events for Japanese charities, so it seems likely he is planning to get Japanese citizenship and remain with JSA post retirement.

>>243862
>Dan now qualifies to own JSA elder stock
He still needs citizenship. Maybe he’s already applied for it? Who knows?

>>243862
Hakkaku is going to kneel and surrender his kabu to Dan upon retirement.

>We Feast (Onokatsu Third Loss)
>Atamin Throws Someone

Yes. These are great inclusions.

>>243862
He's living his weeb dream.
>free nippon citizenship
>JSA sponsored Yamato Nadeshiko wife
>learned moonrunes

>>243866
he doesn't watch anime because he isn't a manbaby or a faggot

>>243867
anime website

>>243869
Who's gonna be doing this for Onosato come day one of the January basho?

>>243867
Good one, Captain Alpha.

oho and his blond brother, ukrainian genes still strong in their family

>>243873
Me on the right (God I hate Y*kozuna).

I'm going to bed after this beer so here's the latest bingo entries:

Oshoma Loses to Sanyaku
Hakuoho Covered in Tape
Kirishima Spin
Ura Spin
Tobizaru Spin
Hoshoryu Throws Someone
Ura Flip

Give me more suggestions for things that'll likely happen by day 10.

>>243876
Onosato blasting someone with a yoritaoshi/oshitaoshi

>>243879
He said day 10 not day 1

>>243825
>Weirdest person you have ever seen in your life sat on the front rows gets a lot of camera time FREE SQUARE
Seriously there is ALWAYS some weird ass looking person sat just behind one of the doh-yo entrances
Wasn't there some cyber punk hag one of the days this last basho?
Everytime

>>243881
Floor seats are expensive enough that they always go to the richest long-term supporters first, so by Japanese standards they all have fuck-you money and don't care.

Too bad Shodai mono-ii isn't relevant anymore

>>243881
If you are refering to the one lady with the sides and back of her head shaved thats Chiyonofuji's daughter.

>>243867
>he doesn't watch anime
false

>>243884
Chiyonofuji's daughter isn't the same person. They both have bangs but only the punk girl shaves the sides.

>>243885
he doesn't watch anime, he watched that when he was 10 years old and watching children's cartoons was age appropriate. he said in an interview at the start of september that he doesn't have time for or interest in anime or video games and that what little free time he gets is devoted to keeping in contact with his family and watching sports

new thread
>>243888
>>243888
>>243888
>>243888

>>243889
Too early

>>243881
https://www.instagram.com/zombeam

>>243854
>x wins y matches
nothing really interesting with these. the more generic it is the better for ones that aren't memes.
yokozuna kk, o-k kk, m1-6 kk, m6-11, >m11 kk

>>243854
Water break
Gyoji picks up a sagari during the match

>>243889
what for? to flood the catalog with sumo threads? unironically kill yourself faggot, we used to have 700+ replies threads until you decided to throw a tantrum.

>>243854 #
When was the last time we had a water break?

>>243903
Attention starved kids are the worst.

>Takarafuji had only 1 sansho
Thought he would have atleast three

>>243896
Me on the right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iECNC8s4TFI

Goodnight sweet prince.

>>243881
>hag
How dare you. She's hot as shit.
>>243884
It's not.

>>243921
It's not like we're pushing anyone else off the board. The jannies are leaving us to resolve the Dan Schism among ourselves.

>>243905
Not sure, but I suspect Ichinojo was involved.

>>243924
Legends say that Ichinojo and Hokuseiho are still fighting to this day.

Bingo list is up to 52 items, obviously it only uses 24 of them. How would you feel if you got this?

>>243926
Actually there's a thought; does Zombeam even go to basho outside Tokyo?

>>243926
I wouldn't put Asashoryu Hoshpost" in my card, because then I'd have to go on Twitter

>>243928
Don't worry, our resident Redditors will post it here for you.

I'd keep generating cards until I got shinpan bowling for K*senosato and F*togayama, preferably in line with each other.

>>243923
There's no schism, anon. It's just one guy spamming his favorite way too much. Everyone else finds the obnoxious fan annoying, but the general opinion on the rikishi is overwhelmingly posittive.

>>243933
>Everyone else finds the obnoxious fan annoying
I find both of you annoying. He only posts it because you idiots keep talking about it. You're just as obsessed, otherwise you could just stop. You have the power.

>>243934
You're clearly too young and new to understand the mentality of people who troll.

sure

>>243926
why is stuff like onosato kachikoshi there? he is gonna get one 100% of the time

>>243944
It's not a question of whether it will happen but when it will happen. That's what determines who'll get a bingo first.

>>243905
Last year I'm pretty sure, at the very least I remember hokuseiho having one right?

>>243955
yup, because he fought like a retard. we dont have a tall retard staller in makuuchi anymore. 0% chance for mizu iri

November basho is the start of kogas zuna run. He had some lingering injury issues last time but he will have time to recover by November.

>>243959
Koga needs to embrace his Captain Koga side. Sure there will be casualties, but the road of the conqueror is a lonely road.

Wake me up when London tour starts or theres another scandal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzzA12Z9ik

Hirosloppa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MFEtk68_mI

Sloppa by someone with actual input.

I just read someone's headcanon that Ochilsaikan will be given the shikona Asahifuji. Big if true.

>>243988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomCkCbKHA4

>>243994
Don't worry he wasn't entirely parked since they've already moved him at least once. You can tell because he went down face first but in that picture is on his back. Remember, if someone might have a neck injury, the first thing you should do is move them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6r7Ahk9Q9M

Chrissloppa

tldr;
>Zak didn't tear his MCL just tweaked it, and will be going to London (read: he tore it and he's fucked)
>Takayasu speaks English and takes half an hour to get out of bed
>Goshima is a weaboo for sumo
>Taiho's beya is being handed over to someone else quite literally over his dead body
>Onosho and Takakeisho are releasing hair care products

>>243992
>open video
>jack swartz clone mispronounces yokozuna
>close video

>>244006
Do you think Papa reads us?

>>243988
Sleep tight, anon.

>>244014
Hakuho being there is a piece of a shit considering his elbow shots at the tachiai that could've easily blown someone's brainstem out.

>>244015
Fuck off back to >>>>reddit with your pussy ass take, you little bitch.

>>244014
>hakuho the only guy out of uniform
404 hinkaku not found

>>244015
>>244019
Redditors think Hakuho has never done anything wrong and is the bullied victim of racism by evil JSA.

Do you guys think Tom will win a match on his birthday?
Should that be on the bingo card?

this was the instant horseryu's hush chances evaporated, before this he was undefeated, after it he was 1-4. the henka counts as a loss, it put a score in the win column for him, but the moral loss was of greater magnitude. he could've beaten wakatakakoga in a straight up fight easy, the henka was bad mistake.

disregard chris
acquire PLIMEU TIMEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzzA12Z9ik

Takakeisho is having his haircut right now

post your fav takakeisho edits/photos

>>244045
He looks like he contracted HIV.

>>244045
>>244052
I wonder how much more normal he’ll look with a normal hair style.
The chonmage makes him look like a bobble head toy.

>>244056
Wonder no more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewhrZ-IjjE

Our guy Koga microwaving chicken nuggets.

>>244063
deeply unsettling

Also a reminder that our beloved former poosher hamster is no longer Takakeisho but Minatogawa-oyakata.

>>244068
Yeah but nobody here is gonna call him that when could just call him Takakeisho. No one refers to Kisenosato as Nishonoseki in here.

>>244069
I do.

Imagine referring to Hakuho as Miyagino to this day. That's what you sound like.

>>244075
Now that he is out of the JSA his name reverts to his mong name Monghbtn Dvaajrgl

>>244078
I assumed the name you gave was a joke considering it started with Mong but it seems you only slightly misspelled it. Mongolian names really are something else, like Hoshoryu's real name, Sugarragchaagiin Byambasüren.

>>244063
He unironically looks like a middle schooler or younger high schooler.

>>244078
Since he gained Japanese citizenship, his legal name is in fact Hakuho Sho.

>>244083
>heh, this kid thinks he's my oyakata?
>heh, he's putting on a mawashi and wants to spar with me???
>AAAIIIIEEEEE
Actually he probably blows nuts in sparring now because he's lost 2/3 of his bodyweight. Kisenosato can only stand up to Onosato because he never stopped being fat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bWwaei8NwE

Spiffy highlighted my comment about Koga in response to someone talking about the other grandson starting his Yokozuna run :3c

>>244012
Who do you think was the sumo historian?

>>244080
they only sound that weird when written in latin. Cyгappaгчaaгийн Бямбacүpэн reads way easier

>>244095
>t. mong internet defense force

>>244095
>they only sound weird when written in a [intrusive westoid alphabet], you should instead write it in [intrusive westoid alphabet]
ᠮᠦᠡᠭᠭᠡᠪᠠᠳᠣ
ᠵᠢᠨ
ᠳᠠᠸᠠᠵᠢᠷᠭᠠᠯ
or fuck off

This just in: Hoshoryu was injured for the playoff as well.

>>244097
>>244098

i was just making a point that a phonetic script reads way easier than whatever the fuck latin is. I dont even know any eastern european languages/mongol just cyrylic script.
ᠮᠦᠡᠭᠭᠡᠪᠠᠳᠣ
ᠵᠢᠨ
ᠳᠠᠸᠠᠵᠢᠷᠭᠠᠯ sure probably reads the easiest but i cant read it

>>244100
To be perfectly honest I wanted an excuse to post the old Mongol script to see if the 4chin can handle vertical text, and of course it couldn't

>>244099
Irrelevant desune. Both zuna went 13-2 and beat each other once. They're equivalent.

>>244092
timestamp? I already watched it but didnt see it

>>244063
Anyone got a pic of the last bout? Wanna see the loose skin.

>>244098
Could you just transcribe how it's pronounced in english since, you know, that's the language we're all proficient in?

Do mongs actually use their names on the daily basis or is something like Sugarragchaagiin shortened to Suga?

>>244106
I have no idea what you're talking about, Anongarragchaagiin.

>>244106
probably it'd be something based on Byambasüren, since I think Sugarragchaagiin is a patronymic

>>244104
There wasn't a last bout.

>>244109
How come?

>>244111
Dunno, it surprised a lot of people. I don't speak moonrune so I can't find out via japernet.

>>244116
If you don't read japanese, how can you be certai? Shame if true, would've been kino. He has a son too. I hope it surfaces a daylater or something.

look at the girls in the background mirin Dan, the most eligible bachelor in Japan

>>244122
We got Aoni with a traditional umbrella, but where is Aoni on a bike?

>>244121
>>244123
I can't believe our boy doesn't danbulate in his low stance baka

>>244045
Incredible. Dude has been a fat ass his entire life for sumo, and now he's finally gotten the chance to live as a normal human being. Hope he enjoys his retirement.

>>244063
I bet his wife is happy now that she doesn't have to sleep with a hambeast.

>>244111
Takakeisho lost ALL HIS SUMO WEIGHT meaning he cant do his style of sumo. Thats the reason come on anon you could have thought that out yourself

>>244146
She knew what she was getting into. If anything, she might miss the flubb. Probably appreciates he'll live past 30, though.

staff is asking dumb questions lately

>>244161
Now she has to deal with all of the gross loose skin, though.
She’s not really out of the woods yet.

This kimarite demo is hilarious

November 2023:
>Meet the New Makuuchi Superstars in Sumo Wrestling!
>Atamifuji, Kinbozan, Gonoyama and Shonnanoumi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1L96nvm2kI

>stars
>Roga
is this some bad clickbait?

>>244175
Has Shonannoumi realised he's the same size as Onosato yet?

2nd year in a row that Japan has won a majority of the bashoes, before that it was over two decades since Japan took home 4 or more makuuchi yushoes.
We are in a new era

Hoshoryu is going to be Kisenosato if they'd roped him as Ozeki. Go ahead, do your best, you'll only lose to this generation's unquestioned #1.

Reminder that Onosato was 2-0 v Takakeisho.

>>244203
Its a shame Keisho pussied out and quit so young. He should've done the take six months off to recover his health and drop into makushita or sandanme then make a big comeback. 28 is way too young to give up at unless you have a permanently crippling injury thats going to prevent you from competing and Keisho had nothing like that. He just pussied out and quit. And now the JSA is going to be represented by a skinny manlet wimp for 40 years, bad look for a sumo boss.

>>244210
He knew his neck was broken, and his pride wouldn't allow him to slide into irrelevance. I respect his stubbornness and bushido ways. He'll be a terror in the JSA for the next three and a half decades. Assume he'll be Chairman.

>>244210
>Keisho had nothing like that
He injured his neck dude. It's not like a knee injury where you can recover to almost 100%. If your neck is fucked, it only recovers to several less degrees of fucked.

>>244217
>It's not like a knee injury where you can recover to almost 100%
takerufuji...

>>244210
>unless you have a permanently crippling injury thats going to prevent you from competing

He did. His neck was fucked.

>>244042
2 more than the fraudzuna

>>244042
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>>244042
.

Aomori's 140+ years of Makuuchi representation is in real hot water. Takerufuji going down would've ended it if Nishikifuji had failed at promotion, but even with him making it, the next guy down the banzuke who isn't injured from Aomori is Tatsunami's memelord Okaryu who went 5-2 at Ms18w in September. There's also Osanai who went 3-4 at Ms19e.

Last Futagoyama video had Nobehara and Waki demonstrate the 10 most common finishing moves, bretty good

>>244254
Yeah, Nishikifuji is bound to drop out again sooner or later and no one else seems up to it at this point.

>>244257
yeah that was nice, but koga calling takahara cute wasn't.

>>244241
This isn't even an edit, it's just a photo.

Takayasu and Hakuoho both math at M1e, but they've shown a tendency to break ties with who's coming down, especially when coming down from Sanyaku. Takayasu will be K1w and Hakuoho M1e. On the bright side, M1e gets a guaranteed K spot if they kachikoshi.

WakatakaKOGA and KiriSHITma are both pathetic excuses for sekiwakes, Its nice to see we're gonna get chads like Dan and Oho to step up and take their place, hopefully Takanosho can perform at sanyaku rank too, 4-5 years ago he was doing well in the upper level ranks and then he fell off, dude has a nice big strong body and looks like he should be up to the task to do that again

>>244284
Oho is the worst example of a Sekiwake in years. He skipped Komusubi off a single spike, immediately failed miserably, and has only regained the rank due to everyone else failing miserably again.

>>244287
>The first Mongolian to make Ozeki and not progress to Yokozuna
Truly, KiriSHITma.

>>244289
Oh no how terrible, I guess i should hate him.
You make me laugh SHITposter anon

>>244290
Thank you for posting a based Mongolian in your image.

Introducing my new OC rikishi Shitackfuji (糞痛富士). Do not steal.

>>244300
There's no way for "ack" to appear in romaji so you're just a dumbshit honestly.

>Shirokuma beat both Asanoyama and Mita despite getting zero chanko since Onosato hogs it all
Make it make sense.

>>244301
What about ACK-a ACK-asaka, the mangaka of Infintity Bullet, Kaguya Love is War, and Oshi no Ko?

>>244310
The hairdresser that was fired for embezzling funds was actually hired by Shirokuma to buy food for him

>>244311
You mean the Hacka Hackasaka, the genius mangaka?

>>244289
>first mongolian to reach the top 1% of the sport and not 0.1%

>>244287
>KirishiMANURE

>>244310
Mita is a manlet, juryo is his peak.

>>244318
Roughly half of ozeki make yokozuna, therefore not making yokozuna by definition makes him a below average ozeki.

>>244326
>Roughly half of ozeki make yokozuna
Do they actually? For some reason it feels like they rotate out way more often than that

>>244328
The exact amount is more like 45% so there's a wiggle room of like 7 ozeki who could be considered above average without making yokozuna. But that's limited to guys like Kaio and Konishiki.

>wake up
>have breakfast with Dan

>>244345
holy mental illness

I feel like two yusho and getting within a win of rope puts Kiribayama as an above average Ozeki.

>>243393
>>243394
>>243561
>prevents Hosh from setting his feet to throw
>off-balances him with right hand belt grip
>blocks Hosh's standing leg with his left arm
Maybe not a throw, but he deserves some credit. That's a bonafide takedown, not just oonga booga smash like you usually see from him.

>>244348
To me it looked more like Hoshoryu just lost his left grip on Sato's belt at the very last second, you can see his arm ping upwards right at the critical moment in the throw. Whether it was him losing his grip or Onosato pushing so hard against his arm he simply couldn't hold it without wrenching his fingers off we may never know, but it is worth noting that apparently Hosh dislocated a finger in their first.

>>244347
He has the same amount of yusho as one of the current yokozunas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumo/comments/1nzi47n/hoshoryu_defeats_onosato_who_lost_at_the_autumn/

>Hoshoryu beats Onosato to win the All-Japan Sumo Wrestler Selection Tournament

>>244349
At that point in time, Hoshoryu's elbow is too high to have any meaningful leverage on the belt and he's already on his tippy-toes going sideways. Grip or not, no way is he able to pull off the throw.

>but it is worth noting that apparently Hosh dislocated a finger in their first
In his right hand, yes.

>>244348
... he just found himself with his right arm wrapped around Hoshoryu and had the resolve to use it to push him down. The tap on the leg is a nice touch, though.

>>244355
>he just found himself with his right arm wrapped around Hoshoryu
Hahaha I hate when that happens hahaha

>>244356
Look, his defense was good, he was ready for the throw and even tried to mess with the leg, but I can't pretend he was in control of that match at any point. Hoshoryu went for it and forced that situation, thought it could work, it didn't. That's it.

>>244357
How far is that stick shoved up your ass that you couldn't see I was joking about having my arm be around Hoshoryu in a more intimate context than the fucking dohyo lmaooo

>>244347
>and getting within a win of rope
He was never within a win of yokozuna.

>>244360
*2 wins
hatsu 2024. had he won at the last two days and he'd be a flopzuna by now

>>244361
There are 10 ozeki who never made yokozuna who won more yusho than Kirishima did, so no he's still below average.

>>244362
Also Takayasu has 9 yusho equivalents

>>244357
>I can't pretend he was in control of that match at any point.
>Hoshoryu went for it and forced that situation, thought it could work, it didn't.
Why are you making it out like Hoshoryu beat himself and Onosato had nothing to do with it?

>>244355
>... he just found himself with his right arm wrapped around Hoshoryu
He swam his right arm in to prevent Hoshoryu from taking his back.

>had the resolve to use it to push him down
And people give oyakata shit for giving non-specific canned advice.

Fucking Shishi lmao caveman

>>244366
it could've been worse if the twerked

>>244366
love that neanderthal

>>244364
Because I was under the false impression that the post I replied to was trying to point out how good Onosato was at getting that right hand in, or something.
Otherwise I even praised his defense.
>>244365
>He swam his right arm in to prevent Hoshoryu from taking his back.
Sure, but that's what you'd expect anyone to do in that situation. Even more so someone like Onosato who loves his right-hand grip. I don't think Hoshoryu's match plan was "I'm just going to circle around him and grab his back while he does nothing".

>>244366
the lion does his shiko at his own pace

>>244362
since switching to the current basho schedule, there are only 6. he is better than average if going by basho won by rikishi who made ozeki

>>244379
Horse has 0 hinkaku

>>244347
>Kiribayama as an above average Ozeki.
Meh, he kept the rank for a year and got a yusho, but I think he would be considered below average as an Ozeki. Had a better run than Mitakeumi for sure, though.

>>244385
>since switching to the current basho schedule
That actually hurts everyone from 1958 onward since they have more basho to win.

>>244361
Yokozuna being allowed to sit out and nurse their injuries instead of exacerbating them and dropping down the banzuke anyway is a huge deal. Teru would never have hit 10 yusho if he had to fight every basho because his injuries would've ended his career much sooner. Even if we Ozeki him and say he has to fight every other basho, his injuries still would've retired him before 10.

A Kirishitma who roped and could sit out without losing rank would probably be on 4-5 yusho right now.

>>244379
Their outside hands are nowhere near synced.

>>244393
How many yusho a yokozuna gets as a yokozuna is irrelevant when comparing how many yusho are won by ozeki.

>>244385
>Miyabiyama 0
lmaoooo

>>244395
It's more that Kirishitma just goes on the list of Ozeki who were cut down by injuries before earning the rope that would've negated their injuries and let them win way more yusho (see: Takakeisho). Contrast this with Ozeki who just never had it in them to go anywhere in the first place.

Also what the fuck there was an Ozeki called Ouchiyama; sounds like he was constantly injured.

>>244400
If a rikishi is cut down by injuries then it just means they're failing at one of the core pillars of sumo, which is strength of the body. Part of being a rikishi of such high status is the responsibility to build up and train ones body to achieve success in a manner that does not lead to injury. This is why Kirishima was a below average ozeki.
The same criticism can be applied to Takakeisho but the difference is he was at least able to win 3 yusho as an ozeki (4 total) before his body failed.

>>244401
I like to think that there are Ozeki with rope potential, and Ozeki without it. Maybe it's a hindsight thing, but Zak's January performance slapped him on the list of guys who just don't have it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1W1kK6ww_E

Get some sumo history in you.

>>244402
I hate talking about things like potential because they're used to fluff up guys who don't deserve it. If an ozeki has yokozuna potential then they'll make yokozuna. If they don't then they didn't have it. All the "potential" in the world didn't help Kisenosato for three years until he finally got it.

>>244409
An Ozeki making the rank without a yusho is probably a good indicator. Both Hoshoryu and Onosato made it with a yusho while Zak didn't. Fuck, Onosato is the only rikishi to have two yusho in his Ozeki run afaik. Christ, Onosato is set up to spread Ozumo's asscheeks wide for years.

>>244411
>An Ozeki making the rank without a yusho
Literally every yokozuna from Musashimaru to Kisenosato failed to yusho prior to making ozeki. Including Hakuho and Asashoryu.

>>244412
Wtf our current yokozuna are better than Hakuho???

>>244401
At the end of the day, who got it, got it and that's it. That said, not all injuries are preventable nor recoverable, especially depending on a rikishi's build. It's just dense to consider every injury a personal failure of the wrestler. Sometimes bad luck ruins everything.

As you know, promotion standards in ozumo aren't exactly consistent, so you will find plenty of underwhleming yokozuna and the occasional ozeki who shoots above his rank. That's a large part od why people come up with these "what could've been" scenarios every now and then. They'd rather believe their favorite got shit luck rather than that he just didn't have it in him and it's rarely obvious which of the two is true.

If Kotozakura went 13-2JY 12-3Y in his next basho do you think the YDC would rope him?

>>244418
No because he can't get 10 wins consistantly, going 8-7 for half a year is not a Yokozuna performance, I don't think JSA wants another Terunofuji unless there are no other options. Onosato being as dominant as he is raises the standard for everyone else

>>244421
Even though it meets the standard that Hoshoryu met?

>>244421
They need to dilute the yokozuna talent pool currently so that horseshitryu's mediocrity doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.

>>244423
>horseshitryu's mediocrity
He's gone 12-3 13-2 while healthy, and caused September's basho to end on a super exciting note. No one at the JSA thinks he's mediocre.

>>244424
>13 wins is his peak
Zak and Onosato can both manage to win 14

>>244424
>He's gone 12-3 13-2 while healthy
Stop conveniently ignoring the 50% of the time when he's not healthy.

>but muh hakuho kakuryu haru teru
All managed at least a few good tournaments before pulling out for the first time as yokozuna.

>No one at the JSA thinks he's mediocr.
Literally last tournament before the most recent one
https://hochi.news/articles/20250728-OHT1T51228.html?page=1

>>244426
Not reading your weeb shit. Hoshoryu is living up to expectation; he's just being overshadowed by a fatso who fell from the heavens as a Yokozuna and left a fucking crater when he landed.

>>244418
Would depend entirely on whether they said the 13-2 J was yusho-equivalent ahead of the next basho like they did Hoshoryu. Remember that basho was two 13-1 ozeki going up against each other on the final day with no yokozuna, so they were the top dogs at the time. It would probably need to be something similar where one of the yokozuna is out and the other is facing Zak with both at 13-1 on the final day.

>>244392
only if you manage to stay healthy and only slightly injured at worse.

>>244429
Ganbarize!

>>244409
i would only agree if there was a hard 2 yusho rule. the yusho equivalent rule has allowed people to be promoted prematurely like hoshoryu when it wouldn't have been strong enough just a few years ago with terunofuji there.
though, there's way more over promotions than guys who were fucked

>>244379
Let's hope I never have to use this.

>>244428
> Remember that basho was two 13-1 ozeki going up against each other on the final day with no yokozuna, so they were the top dogs at the time.

yeah and Zak left him eating sand, after that contest there was only 1 top dog remaining

>>244432
But clown era is coming to an end with Onosato

>>244427
>he's just being overshadowed by a fatso who fell from the heavens as a Yokozuna and left a fucking crater when he landed.
Stop complaining about the dohyo height already

Honestly naming the "current era" Taiho because it's the first kanji of our zuna's shikonas is so fucking lame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzdcGWjAjo

Tatsusloppa including Yarden.

>>244457
If Tai beats Ho first-try in november, people will just call it the Oonosato era from then on.

The current era will eventually come to be known as the Danosato era, horseSHITryu is never going to be a factor

>>244468
evil spirit

>>244473
Say, Takanosho did awfully well last basho...

>no Chris video for the past 5 days despite a plethora of important sumo happenings
how out of character, sure hope Chris didn't just drop dead and stop making videos or something

>>244481
If Chris were to die how would we ever hear again of the JSA's Hakuho-specific racism?

>>244468
Rough looking 30.

>>244488
Fat ages you, and he looks like he was an ugly bastard before that.

>>244481
I wouldn't be surprised if he is already in London and preparing for the event

>>244494
In that case he's probably been robbed and can't post.

>>244496
yeah its not like he can't read jap newspapers from london

>>244502
With a stolen laptop and phone?

>>244462
Thanks for the warning.

>>244457
its Taiho Taiho era. Youre forgetting about the REAL Taiho descendant joining them in 2026

>>244513
>Made sekiwake twice without touching komusubi
Has this ever happened before?

>>244514
Are you looking for someone who's hit Sekiwake multiple times without touching komusubi EVER, or someone who's just done it multiple times and has hit komusubi before?

>>244514
i wasnt talking about that bum

>>244514
Making sekiwake twice before their first komusubi basho happened with 7 wrestlers, including Takanosho (pic related). The record is Tochiakagi doing it 3 times in 1979 and 1980 before making komusubi in 1981.
Making sekiwake twice without ever making komusubi in their career happened with 3 wrestlers. The record is also 3 set by Chiyonoyama back in 1947, 1948, and 1949. He's also the most recent, so this seems to be something less likely ever since they went to the 6 basho, 15 days schedule. Oho would count as the most recent since Chiyonoyama, but that would be dependant on him never making komusubi at all before he retires.

>>244525
>Making sekiwake twice without ever making komusubi in their career happened with 3 wrestlers
who were the other two?

>>244526
Ayanami (peaked at sekiwake) in 1912 and 1915, and Hitachiiwa (made ozeki) in 1925 and 1926. Chiyonoyama made yokozuna.

>>244527
thanks, interesting spread of outcomes

>>244525
>but that would be dependant on him never making komusubi at all before he retires.
he just needs to keep on banging out the double digit scores and he never will

>>244532
>Can't believe I have to wear this bullshit
>I wish I was back home eating chanko

AI says this is what Dan will look like on his 23rd birthday

>>244563
Predict how takaeisho will look like in 2 years

>>244571
sissy twink under the bleachers @ jungyo events sucking dicks for 1000yen per

>>244532
The fuck's he wearing that for?

>>244626
Centennial tournament to mark the 100th anniversary of the JSA, so everyone was bringing back older super formal rituals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URt7lOOlbC0
Finally some slop

Any bong anons going to the event or are we left hung and dry?

>>244664
I wouldn't go to London if you paid me.

>>244626
Kirishima told him it was dancy dress day at the dohyo and he actually fell for it.

The first planeload of wrestlers has arrived in London and so far Onosato has already been stabbed 3 times and Dan was arrested for being White without a loicense

>>244694
Is Nephew okay?

>>244695
he may or may not have been injured in transit depending on how he performs

Zak absolutely obliterated KOGAshoho in training in the latest oyakata channel video, must've been filmed before Aki, which means KOGAshoho was defending champion when he was getting his ass kicked. So even he knows his cup was a clownshow
>he guys I just yusho'd and now 8-7 man is kicking my ass

>>244698
Stop posting anytime, thanks.

>>244696
No, he has elbow crisps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C0l0hjgjlk
Our favourite schizo on the scene

i kinda feel bad for the wrestlers thinking they're gonna visit some elegant and beautiful city and experience british culture
they're in for a shock

>>244726
saar please