Thread 1017490

What's the quickest way from retard to creator of this?
Wing3D?

>>1017491
why? whats wrong with wings3d?

>>1017490 (OP)
Literally any 3d modeling program will do

>>1017494
how did they do it back in the day? and is there anything from that which is still useful?

>>1017490 (OP)
not sure why you'd use wings over blender considering the latter has a bigger community and more tutorials out there, but it's your choice
I think I've seen one other game use this flat texturing method, can't remember what it was
if you look at the model, they made it so all the faces are facing the front or back of the camera so there's minimal stretching at the sides. after that they used the Project From View unwrap method and then likely painted over the UVs in their texture editor of choice
for something like the hammer which would be perpendicular to the camera they'd just Project From View at whatever side would have the most space, in this case the side
the main thing you need is a good understanding of silhouette and the ability to texture paint

here's a nice little piece on the PS1 / Quake-era aesthetic:
https://www.tumblr.com/spellfist-3d/615902900826390528/guide-to-that-elusive-ps1-pixelated-lowpolybut

you can take a closer look at the Quake models and textures here:
https://models.spriters-resource.com/ms_dos/quake/
https://textures.spriters-resource.com/ms_dos/quake/

if you want to get started with blender:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3GeP3YLZn5hhfaGRSmRia0OwPPMfJu0V
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3GeP3YLZn5gZhJhyIQPKoz9Yrs9oKU9R

also check this thread out: >>992953

>>1017503
>if you look at the model, they made it so all the faces are facing the front or back of the camera so there's minimal stretching at the sides.
Unironically how do you plan this?
Do you like try to have only a single edge going on the sides? Do you pose it in some fashion before projecting UVs?

>>1017505
>have only a single edge going on the sides
looking at the models, it seems that way yeah
in terms of posing I imagine they tried to pose it in a way that you can see the most faces / largest surface area
in the knight texture you can see that the arms are turned out to the front so you can see the bicep / ticep area as well as the palms and back of the hand, rather than facing the side as they normally would when resting
if you use segmented limbs unlike Quake then the posing will be even easier since you won't have to mess with the mesh itself, just rotate it as you want it projected to texture on

>>1017507
another example with the shambler here, with the way its hands are spread out for the purpose of texturing

>>1017496
3d studio or alias (specifically for quake). In the 80s/early 90s devs just made their own simple modelers. Again, any 3d modeler will do

>>1017505
If you look at the runes specifically you'll see if they had edges that wouldn't show on such a projection they just unwrapped them for that view.

>>1017511
this texture shows that too, looks very odd

>>1017513
god damn that is some freaky unwrapping but the results are kino

>>1017513
>>1017508
>>1017507
>>1017503
>>1017490 (OP)
Unironically the best unwrapping technique I have seen for 2d artists

>>1017503
same poster, I gave this style a quick test, seems easy enough
also if the character is mirrored like the knight or the shambler you could split the texture / UV in half for optimization
I can't texture paint for shit though sadly. this method is definitely best suited for competent 2D artists, although I guess it could just as easily be used for other less realistic methods of texturing, it's very easy and straight-forward

>>1017526
also for anyone interested in trying it out, some tips:
use blender's built-in texture painting to crudely draw the landmarks on the model, then take it into something like photoshop to finish. it's easier than guessing how exactly the parts will line up at the seams and such
export the UV layout to 2560x2560 or whatever fits nicely into a multiple of whatever your target res is, like 128x128 or w/e. it's just easier to paint in higher res and then lower it in photoshop (use bicubic sharper)
also don't forget to index the texture to 256 colors. you can find the Quake palette online and index it to that if you want to be fully authentic to that style

>>1017513
Basically at the time they didn't have an easily refreshable real time textured preview, so having the unwrap resemble the final model made it a lot easier to paint.

Where.. is his neck? kek

>>1017503
>not sure why you'd use wings over blender
Because he's a troll

>>1017530
The blender or wings?

>>1017490 (OP)
Wings wha?

Low poly models favor texturing more than ANYTHING.
So you should start with being able to set up your texture sheet first.

The pic you provided doesn't even have side textures, just front and back so you can see texture stretching on the hammer.

There's a process deeper than the pic you provided too. That texture in picrel is the end process of building the model texture.

Each piece of material was preplanned.
The model is probably the least important aspect of low poly.

>>1017531
If you told me that OP created a bait thread, replied to himself with wings3d, and then replied to himself again with blender... I'd believe it
That's how bad the board has been lately

>>1017544
i didnt

What about Milkshape 3D?

bumping this because other threads are shit

bump

>>1017496
40 + anon here.
Played Q1 after installing it from 30+ diskettes downloading the demo on dail up from a college 100 miles away.

Anyway, I used to edit the (I think BMP but it might of been another format) files using software called DPAINT. The texture was unwrapped so it was a but of a shit show but it worked.

You can grab this shit on archive.org or abandonnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluxe_Paint

https://winworldpc.com/product/deluxepaint/2x

back when windows wasn't for faggots

What I wanna know is how they made textures for games like Quake or Unreal.

>>1017871
According to the devlogs for Quake it was Adrian Carmack and Kevin Cloud who where the texture artists.
They painted everything by hand in Photoshop 2.5/3.0 running on SGI and Windows NT workstations.

There isn't anything magic or exotic to it but they restricted themselves to a 256 color palette
handled thru a custom tool written by John Carmack that handled that as well as saving to Quake's .wad format.
The colors chosen was a range they knew would help ask the texture seams.

Over at Epic it is stated it was Shane Caudle who painted nearly everything for the original Unreal.
He used 1996 Photostop 4.0 on a PC. He had custom tools that packed the textures into the .utx format and generated mipmaps.

He stated in interviews he painted his textures at higher resolution and downscaled to the res used by the game.

You can do anything they did back then better in standard photoshop of today.
If you wanna be early Quake 'Photoshop 2.5 authentic' just don't use any layers as you didn't have those until 1994 and 3.0

>>1017877
>'ask' wtf
*hide the texture seams.

>>1017877
>He stated in interviews he painted his textures at higher resolution and downscaled to the res used by the game.
this feels like blatant cheating

>>1017879
retard

>>1017880
use your big boy words

>>1017879
it's the smartest and easiest way to do it and likely always will be; painting at 128x128 or 256x256 resolutions is a challenge because you can't get a clear read on values and what it is you're actually painting