Thread 279829042

it is a literal copy of an actually good original anime, with worse design and pseudo intellectual bullshit, and oh yeah, with colors and effects that give you seizures.. why did standards drop so badly with this new generation of human morons?

>>279829042 (OP)
>it is a literal copy of an actually good original anime
name?

>>279829063
Kino no tabi

>>279829042 (OP)
I actually tried Deedlit a while ago, so no nostalgia goggles, and it was godawfully boring after like 4 episodes. it's way too basic and generic. like Ys1 anime.

>>279829089
The sequel is even worse. watch Magic Knight Louie if you want a fun classic fantasy anime.

NNNHYOOO I MUST HAVE MY PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL SLOPPAA AAAHHHHHHHHHH

>>279829089
Deedlit mogs digital whorelfs at least

>>279829042 (OP)
big
elf
ears

>>279829042 (OP)
>literal copy
Every single elf in anime is a copy of Deelit retard, Frieren being shit has nothing to do with copying a better anime.

>>279829246
>YOU ARE RETARD FOR CALLING COPY A COPY AAHHHGG
are you okay redditor?

>>279829042 (OP)
Bro, lodoss is the dumbest normalfag shit you could ever watch. Even tomino and Anno made fun of how it was absolute slop for retards. I'm tired of these retarded ass twitter normalgroid threads. This whole damn board sucks ass now. There is not a single good thread in the catalog.

>>279829042 (OP)
>Frieren is considered pseudo by nowadays standards
Lmao, post 2010 anime watchers are worse than subhumans at this point, by the way Frieren is great.

I'm indifferent. I just like silver hair petite eves whom I can manhandle and fuck on different furniture around the house.

>>279829126
Based Riui enjoyer.

>>279829429
it literally is pseudo intellectual shit, it is fucking dogshit with no depth at all
id rather rewatch macross 10 times than this shit
kill yourself go back to redit 14yo zomzom

>>279829418
I don't think Anno is in a position to say anything about any anime at all, even if he's right in this case, Lodoss is only great for the art and aesthetics.

>>279829528
>I'd rather watch complete garbage for normalfags who don't like anime
We know. Go make 20 morrowind threads on /v/ or something

>>279829572
macross is complete garbage for normalfags?
what the fuck are you on about redditor holy shit

>>279829528
I'm 40 newfag, do tell me how Frieren is a pseudo anime if you know what that even means, I'm waiting.

>>279829599
my dad works at nintendo

>>279829418
Talking like a black colored individual and posting onimai of all things only means that you're part of the problem

>>279829510
Proto Konosuba.

>>279829510
Ila best girl
>smart
>rich
>well connected
>devoted
>bro tier

>>279829549
>Lodoss is only great for the art and aesthetics.
No the fuck it isn't. Look at this shit man. Look at how shallow and sloppily choreographed Lodoss is.

Lodoss:
https://youtu.be/emEbZzX6SH4&t=79
Frieren:
https://youtu.be/3riyoFWfQpY

Anime is great now, this is the problem with retro larpers, they fool themselves into thinking absolute garbage is good, they don't know anything about art and aesthetics, and they try to drag everyone else down into their misery. Its no wonder this place is so boring. I already discussed this all 20 years ago. Move on or go talk about it on reddit. Being a newfag is in vogue there so you'll get a lot of updoots if you say you found a copy of Lodoss in your grandma's attic and are watching it for the first time.

>>279829584
He's right.

>>279829752
forgot
>gorgeous
>glasses

>>279829774
You can take Your reddit circle-jerk post where it belongs, anime like macross, gantz, even genocyber has more originality to itself than this bland copy pasted shit will ever have and the only publicity that it may attract is from same bland people such as Yourself. You could not recognize good if You were in heaven

>>279829849
>gantz anime
oh no its retarded

>>279829774
>almost realistic sword fight scene
>it is shallow and sloppy
XAXAXAAXAXXAXAXAXAXA
vs ADHD what the fuck is even going on on scren
You are retarded child
>>279829877
cry and cope harder child
enjoy your pseudo intellectual shit

>>279829915
>almost realistic sword fight scene
what lmao

>>279829849
>bland copy pasted shit will
bro, this is literally a Gundam clone copypaste #431. I mean, look at this. They copypaste Gundam and painted it moar white. A billion anime is like this. yeah its native sci-fi not even true sci-fi

>>279829943
>has never held a sword in his hand
just shut the fuck up child
>>279829952
exactly why i brough up the example of well made copy of existing idea
too bad you are too stupid to comprehend it
enjoy your shonen slop

>>279829915
Anon, the guy chops a mountain in half and then a 4 and a half foot tall woman blocks his sword with no impact whatsoever.

>>279829614
Good for you, now spill the beans or fuck off kid, I'm still waiting.
>>279829774
>art and aesthetics = animation
Sorry, I didn't realized I was talking with an actual retard

>>279830007
>aesthetics is dramatically zooming in on a guys face every swing like its a hispanic soap opera

>>279829980
nobody is talking about that child
i am refering to way they hold it, the way you can see who struggles and weight behind their movements, unlike frirenshit where bigger explosion = stronger attack, even the way they hold whatever fantasy weapon is that makes no sense when you look where pressure points are

>>279830045
>even the way they hold whatever fantasy weapon is that makes no sense when you look where pressure points are
what are you talking about? thats what bo staff martial arts looks like
https://youtu.be/mPfmEBccqs8

>>279829418
>Even tomino
What's that supposed to mean? Tomino is better and way greater than your favourite creator.

>>279830104
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HE IS FUCKING RETARDED

>>279830044
Do you know what aesthetics are? I feel like I'm only talking with morons in this thread, you and the OP are the 2 sides of the same coin, enjoy your sub 80 IQ thread retarded newfags.

>>279830190
>redditor discovers word newfag
>uses it as a pol faggot uses word nigger to show how he is le based and integrated
just kill yourself your taste is shit and this is not reddit

sneedlit > feedren

>>279830228
So, just to be clear, you don't have any idea of what aesthetics are and the OP doesn't know what pseudo means, ok, you might as well say that you are the op having an schizo episode. By the way the example you used for Frieren is terrible, the Lodoss video looks like 100 times better.

>>279830308
You aren't even replying to the same person. That's how stupid you are.

>>279830308
i am not even the person that posted that nor did i argue that, but speaking of schizo, i might think You need to take a look in the mirror

>>279829774
Old anime fight

>>279830331
>>279830336
Yeah, confirmed, is the OP having an schizo episode thread.

>>279830344
vs new anime fight

>>279830344
faggots cannot tolerate this because camera angle did not change 80 times within 3 seconds and there were not enough flashy lights and pointless movements

>>279830344
Thank god they zoomed in on that guys face when he swung his axe so I know that it is supposed to be dramatic.

>>279830344
>>279830374
Objectively, Lodoss looks way better here.

>>279830374
Why aren't the zooming in on Stark's face here? They're showing how he moves around and it's making me confused.

>>279830396
>why would anyone want to show emotion of a character that is making a big decision when we need to see more flashy movements
zoomers are terminally ill

>>279830344
SOVL

>>279830374
SOULLESS

>>279830409
It looks like a saturday morning cartoon lol

>>279830457
But Frieren does zoom in on the character's faces during moments of spectacle, not gratuitously every single swing to cut down on animation budget. I mean holy shit bro, look at 50-53, oh my god, this is animation porn.

>>279830461
Who Stark rotoscoped running on a 3d blurred background with rock cubes everywhere? Yes it does to be honest.

>>279830516
zooms on characters face to input a dialogue mid swinging staff at 8259738kmh

>>279830374
I don't remember it looking this terrible. Why is there a random cube on the ground? Was that a mistake?

>>279830374
vs post-modern animated battle contention

>>279830436
>They're showing how he moves around
Too bad they don't know how to animate a run cycle

>>279830589
AHAHAHHA WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

>>279830344
This webm is a perfect example of how cheap and bad old animation was. Everything is hilariously split up and heavily sequenced. It takes 3 seperate shots just throw a dagger.

>>279829042 (OP)

Frieren is in no way a copy of Lodoss though. Lodoss has a classic narrative structure with a hero and good versus evil plot and all that. Even stuff like Ruin Explorers or Slayers have that and have more of an adventure focus.

Frieren is slice of life. Sure there are big moments and all that but Fireren is also about the little unremarkable moments of the journey like meeting NPC n22 and helping them plow the fields or search for a cat. Closest thing to it would be Fumetsu no anata e, and even then Fumetsu is way too intense to draw a fair comparison. The focus is fundamentally different.

You also need to consider the context of production. Frieren being true high fantasy is a blessing from the lord in the current context. Luckily actual fantasy is starting to make a come back in force, which is in no way a bad thing at the moment.

>>279830647
>Frieren is slice of life
Well, it was slice of life

>>279830613
yeah id rather have him throw dagger and than 295839583 particles explode than purple white yellow screen than loud BANNGJZJNG than another big flash than he just stands there with smug smirk on his face so POWERFUL

>>279830647
literally copy pasted design, made her midget and face round
it is worse in every single aspect
and of course, yeah it is not a total copy because as every other popular anime it copies shit for multiple anime sources

>>279830613
>it's bad because it shows a sequence of how something happens
Zoomers can't be this retarded right?

>>279829774
>>279830007
>aesthetics

>>279830724
all they care about is bigbangWAZOONGA on screen

>>279830673
>than 295839583 particles explode than purple white yellow screen than loud BANNGJZJNG than another big flash than he just stands there with smug smirk on his face so POWERFUL
But that's literally what Lodoss does every single fight. A dagger throw is
>zoom in on guys face
>zoom in on dagger
>zoom in on dragon
And everything in between is just sparks and impact frames. Theres like 2 seconds of actual sakuga for every 30 seconds of animation. Why does Frieren, a seasonal anime, look so much better than this high budget OVA?

>>279830739
cannot you see how her plain expression in contrast to her cute comical height is making it deep? did you know she keeps that straight face for the most of anime run? crazy huh so deep

>>279830739
So, aren't the Lodoss aesthetics great like I said? Still that doesn't make Frieren a bad anime.

>>279830776
not even going to read what you write faggot
kill yourself and go cry about it on reddit

>>279830776
It doesn't no matter how much you try to push it tranny.

>>279830779
name 3 things good and ORIGINAL about reddit no frieren

>>279830739
So you think overly saturated thick lined still frames are aesthetic, got it. What an incredibly stupid and subjective thing to poop your pants over.

>>279830815
You don't have an argument. You already lost.

>>279830840
They did the moment they picked fucking Lodoss which had well-known production troubles, like what the fuck?

>>279830818
Good: Pacing, character progression, world building
Original: Can't really say anything because there's little to 0 originality in anime the best I can say is that it's an after story instead of the typical yuusha defeats the Maou story, and don't you dare you say that Lodoss is original.

reddit no frieren sisters sound mad)))

>>279830840
You posted videos to prove your argument and they proved you otherwise, so I literally don't have to prove anything, literally hoisted by your own petard tranny.

>>279830888
characters are shallow af
especially mc

>>279830943
How so, the characters have a personality and they change through the story, what do you want exactly from a character?

>>279829418
>has to cite old anime directors to appeal to authority
>all this says is that even the "slop for retards" was better than modern shit
Oh no no no no

>>279829774
in terms of choreography both are almost equal, as in I don't think they are good
but frieren's wordswordswords are pretty annoying, plus the fucking expressions, it's like she's bored and excited at the same time but she's clearly saying she's lamenting her bad luck
And no, it's not a character trait of her, everybody is like that in frieren

>>279830613
>>279830776
Compared to Frieren showing an axe swing
>shot of Stark mid-swing near the dragon's face
>random zoom in on Frieren's face with her eyes out of frame
>zoom in on Stark's eye
>back to zoom in on Frieren's face with her eyes out of frame with her mouth suddenly turning into a smile with the most obvious buildup ever
>zoom in on Frieren's flat, lifeless face
>Stark in a completely different position then flying upward back to the dragon's face

>>279830999
cause it feels so shallow id say that dragon ball has bigger character depth than this

>>279831072
>cause "headcannon"
Ok man, next time try to watch or read at x1 speed if you even watched it that is.

>>279830888
>world building

>>279831109
so you do not even know what headcannon means?
alright im out lol

>>279831120
Are you talking about SnW?

>>279830436
Dude, did you watch the webm, they zoomed into Sterk, AND Frieren who wasn't even there!

>>279831141
Yeah your perception about the characters is your headcanon because the characters personalities and evolution through the series is well stablished, so the characters being shallow is a literal headcanon, do you understand that zoomer?

>>279830819
No, clearly aesthetics is lack of shading, lighting, and defined facial features

>>279831190
AHHAHAHAHAH WHAT A FUCKING RETARD
so wait
your opinion that is not shallow is not a headcannon despite what you just said?
your iq must be like 70 wtf is this shit

>>279831237
A shallow character does not change through a story and they don't show multiple traits like we have seen from Frieren herself, you are a literal ape with 0 understanding of what you see.

>>279831042
>wordswordswords
No intelligent person has ever posted this

>>279831523
agreed bro, you sound like a retard

>>279830140
Funny you should say that. Tomino stated last year that anime is going through a golden age currently.

>>279831773
He wasn't talking about garbage like Onimai that's for sure.

>>279829042 (OP)
>why do redditors love frieren?
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>279831798
Don't be so sure, onimai was the top ranking anime on every single japanese aggregator during its respective season and a huge portion of the animation talent in japan worked on it. Tomino is also fascinated with gender and crossdressing for, uh, reasons.
https://youtu.be/hhmZiVIgm90

>>279829418
That's bullshit. Nobody in Japan cares about the Lodoss anime, it's all about the novels.

>>279831932
Not watching your shilled tranny jewtuber, zoomer, Onimai did well in Japan but it wasn't a best seller in bds or viewership.

>>279832056
>Onimai did well in Japan but it wasn't a best seller in bds or viewership
It literally had the highest viewership.

>>279832071
Not even from it's own super weak season losing to literal garbage, let alone the year.

>>279832056
Onimai is insanely popular in Japan dude. 2 years later and they are still selling merch.

>>279829042 (OP)
>Everybody I don't like is a redditor
5ch loved Frieren too btw

>>279832130
>It was ONLY in second place
Dang bro. Why is none of the anime nu/a/ likes here?

>>279832138
No, Gundam is insanely popular, Onimai has a niche following.
>>279832197
Yeah it was second on the weakest season of the year, lost to literal garbage anime, now cope troonimai tard.

>>279832219
>No, Gundam is insanely popular
Yeah, G Witch was really popular

>>279829042 (OP)
He's angry.
ANGRY ABOUT ELVES!

>>279832197
>~Only 6k BD sold
>https://www.anikore.jp/chronicle/2023/
>3.8 in anikore
>not even top anime of it's own season on viewership
>>279832246
Gcucks looks like it's even more popular than Gbitch so far in Japan

>>279832326
>Gcucks looks like it's even more popular than Gbitch so far in Japan
We won't know until model kit sales, but regardless, everything you hate is popular in japan, and everything you like is western reddit shit.

>>279832362
>everything you hate is popular in japan
Factually false
>and everything you like is western reddit shit
Factually false again, you should stop projecting your shit taste.

>>279831773
Damn. He was referring to Onimai for sure when he said that.

>>279831773
Tomino was referring to the popularity of anime, not the quality, and warned that it can soon change. He also recently stated that China is overtaking Japan in animation so best not to take everything he says seriously. He's an old man saying things.

why are onimai avatarfags so common?

hot fucking damn everything on 4shalom turns into how much copies sold or views something has
kill yourselves

>>279832951
It's all one schizo

>>279832967
This thread shouldn't even have existed you dumb newfaggot

>>279833167
>YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE FIREREN NO REDDIT
holy

>newfag
>yuritranny
>mad
The holy trinity

if i say newfag every sinlge post it will come true
go back bro

>>279833198
>yuritranny
Wait, it all makes sense now, lmao.

>>279833191
criticism requires critical thinking

>>279830589
This unironically looks cool.

>>279829089
It's a show you watch for LE VIBES of the animation and background art, not bad but a bit overhyped

>>279833723
what do you watch reddit no friren for? to understand what means mid, overhyped and bland?

>>279829418
>Tomino
You mean the talentless fetishist who could only produce slop for retards himself? Lodoss is a generic DnD fantasy anime, but nothing Tomino has ever made is remotely passable.

>>279829042 (OP)
But wouldn't a literal copy of something good also be good

>>279834430
it would be repetitive, already seen, boring

>>279829042 (OP)
What in the world is pseudo intellectual about Frieren?
Explain yourself OP, words mean things.

>>279834626
But you wouldn't refuse a copy of a good burger

>>279834811
it tries to punch above its weight
>>279834852
burger is essencial for me to live and it gives me time rather than taking it away
in the other hand, id rather have the original burger again once i get hungry again

lil bro is still losing his mind, how stupid do you have to be to think lodoss is better than frieren

>>279835423
i was not the one that brought that anime up in first place but now that you say it like that, it probably is much better

ive never watched frieren but it's hilarious that there are 10 threads seething at it at all times

>>279835767
link them right now
and you wont do it because they do not exist
because mods hate criticism of reddits favorite
moreovere
there is always a thread praising that pice of shit
now kys bye

>>279829418
>Troonimai complaining about normalfags

>>279835855
If he's a normalfag now then otaku won big time.

>>279835767
Watch it. And watch 3-gatsu no lion after. Some of the best modern classics.

>>279830185
Watching schizos get mind broken by other schizos when they accidentally land on the correct opinion is always funny. You gotta take your meds anon, Frieren is beautifully animated.

>>279835933
>watch 3-gatsu no lion after
I watched it as it was airing and its been a favorite ever since and recently caught up with the manga. Maybe I'll watch frieren then

>>279835954
never said it does not look as a nice animation, it just makes no sense, weight behind it, like any other modern anime it is just flashing scene after scene that often are not even adding anything
in earlier days people took way more time to think through each frame, today, it is way easier to create them
hence why comes waves of shit
nobody is saying it is not smooth, but it is in fact shit in comparison to something that actually looks good and is eye appealing to humans outside of tiktok children

>>279835767
>>279836006
Watch the first three episodes of Frieren then drop it right there because it'll only keep getting worse.

>>279829752
man, late cel style was so cool and you see it less often than earlier 1990s styles
The transition to early troglodyte-level digital animation took so much from us, it's like a dino extinction event

>>279829042 (OP)
>redditors

>>279830374
that sonic style running is still funny.
Seriously I hope this style of anime fights gets out of fashion soon.
t. Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran enjoyer patrician

>>279829042 (OP)
At this point im pretty sure it's going to be remembered as one of the greatest anime ever, especially since S2 is likely to be just as good if not better
When was the last time there was an anime that had such widespread acclaim and was actually popular even outside of anime circles? Seems to only happen once a decade or so

>>279830374
Reminds me of the bone dragon fight in New Dream Hunter Rem ep1. Now that had SOVL, all hand-drawn in 1992 or so.

>https://youtu.be/vpYUTkPZFR8?feature=shared&t=1302
starts around 21:41

>>279829774
>tranny has the worst possible opinion on any topic
like clockwork

>>279830719
Frieren isn't copypasted Deedlit. But her design is kinda generic. Not to mention the costume lel.

>>279832362
>Ren-chon
>that resemblance
is she the Frieren proto?

>>279836565
one punch man?
that turned into flop

>>279829042 (OP)
Nobody cares about your dogshit tranime.

>>279836936
why do you fags repeat words someone used for you like a mantra?
newfag newfag tranime tranime
are you indian?

>>279836887
>one punch man? that turned into flop
Mismanaged production after S1.
Funny enough the Animation Producer that made OPM S1 (Yuichiro Fukushi) is the same guy making Frieren. He's doing S2 of Frieren again so expect it will be on the same level as the first, especially since Saito is directing again

>>279829042 (OP)
You have a point. But get this:

>>279829089
Soulless take

>>279829042 (OP)
being a contrarian doesn't make you smart or have good taste, retard.

>>279832130
A strong contender for the worst anime
>>279829624
I didn't knew it at the time but my post has been proven to be profetic.
What a colossal faggot

>>279837654
>contrarian
are you that fucking stupid to think that literally EVERYONE loves this shit? jesus

>>279829042 (OP)
good universal trollpost format, here's your (You)

>>279829952
? Wasn't Macross inspired by Space Battleship Yamato? Anyways I love Macross regardless. Especially Do You Remember Love?

>>279830374
God I hate this. Hated it in CSM too. Who Tell me who started this meme so I can hate them to death.

>>279836736
theres nothing copypasted between Frieren and Deed other than they are elves... for starters, Frieren doesnt wear a costume with a cloak large enough to rock it out like Deed does.

>>279837544
Do DBZspics shitpost with Frieren a lot?

>>279829042 (OP)
Yeah idk I watched 3 episodes and never felt so bored watching Anime before. Even aria wasn't that offensively boring

>>279838822
They actually don't at all.

>>279829042 (OP)
Yup Frieren is slop.
>why did standards drop so badly with this new generation of human morons?
Anime went from being a niche in western populations to mainstream. Money grubbers saw the appeal it had, started investing money en masse into it. Similar to the death of any hobby or fandom. It's not that standards have dropped, it's just that if you've only ever had McDonald's, grew up on McDonald's advertising, played in the McDonald's play-place as a kid and had your sexual awakening with Ronald McDonald himself, you aren't going to be aware how much better a homemade burger is when made by a talented person. Even if I gave you one it wouldn't conform to your preconceptions of what a burger is and you wouldn't get the stimulation of nostalgia and all the other reinforced feedback you've had over a lifetime of eating McDonald's. It's not that younger people have no standards, they've just never been exposed to quality and wouldn't know it if it came across their path because they've been targeted by greedy corporations looking to make a lifelong consumer, rather than enjoying anime for the animation and story.

>>279829042 (OP)
One thing I hate is the humor. Most of the relationships in this show are a fucking gag instead of being something interesting. Hey look, Fern is mad at Stark again, hey look, funny lesbians.

>>279829042 (OP)
Redditors are overthinkers. They love to overinterpret everything. And works like Frieren and Chainsaw Man are perfect for this. In the former, they can pretend to have deep philosophical discussions about the ephemerality of time (even though the anime clearly deals with the subject in platitudes at best), and in the latter, they can pretend to have deep political discussions about abuse and capitalism (even though Fujimoto is clearly just a misery porn wanker).

>>279836565
SnK

>>279836565
>When was the last time there was an anime that had such widespread acclaim and was actually popular even outside of anime circles?
MHA S2 made it a universal hit.

>>279840810
>MHA
Realistically, Frieren might end up that kind of level of hit. I actually think it's not far off solidifying that. Apparently Frieren had peak shonenshit tier levels of engagement when S1 was airing.

>>279840720
Frieren won't ever be SnK big, but it doesn't need to be

>>279839948
yeah pretty much this
the best thing is you can do this with literally any show as present it as some kind of elaborate shit

>>279839670
Yeah, it feels like somebody is fresh into manga business and wants to have their own but don't have any particularly interesting ideas so huge part of it is an assemblage of what you typically see in average manga.
I guess the basic bitch reused backgrounds and assets fit that.

>>279829088
should I watch it?

>>279829774
Excellent art and decent animation>>>>plain art and flashy animation

>>279831049
I think they are both great examples of visual storytelling from different time periods. You cannot really use your argument for the webm though because it cuts out the flashback to Frieren talking with Eisen.

>>279843213
>Excellent art
How fortunate that Frieren has both excellent art and animation, whereas Lodoss has neither.

>>279843545
>>excellent art
>excellent art
You can find more appealing designs in your average 2000's kids anime, Frieren is peak soulless art.

>>279843545
>totally boring and plain same faced designs that barely show any emotion
>excellent art
You can find more appealing designs in your average 2000's kids anime, Frieren is peak soulless art.

>>279830344
kino
>>279830374
boring

>>279830739
Fuck, here you can see clearly how devolved elves' designs have become...

>>279829626
Proto Kamina

>>279844187
Compared to Lodoss? I'm not so sure. That anime is kinda dogshit and the character designer they employed worked on way better stuff.

>>279844509
reddit kino

>>279829418
>onimai image
>bad opinion
Like clockwork.

>>279829042 (OP)
Even as someone who REALLY likes 80s and 90s shit, Lodoss was fucking boring and Frieren is so much better.

>>279844835
Why is he so good at driving schizos insane? How do I acquire this skill?

>>279837997
no, retard, you're a contrarian because you see something popular and, instead of just saying "not for me" you insist it must be bad and exaggerate everything in it you don't like, assuming you even watched it in the first place. case in point, despite Record of Lodoss War and Frieren being entirely different thematically and narratively, you insist one is a copy of the other simply because fantasy setting with elf. you are retarded. posting on /a/ does not make you smart. constantly shitting on shows you may or may not like doesn't mean you have good taste.

HOLY SOVL

>>279844970
maybe if you stopped shilling your shitty show 247 i would not have a need to shit on it in return, and yes, it is bad, i did not even watch it because it is a fucking garbage, kill yourself Jamal

>>279844509
Your posts really give the impression that you don't know how to explain what makes something good or bad.

>>279845219
>i did not even watch it
>cry about it every single day
>for years
Can anyone give me a single reason why this guy shouldn't be permanently banned?

>>279836565
>Seems to only happen once a decade or so
The 2010s had SnK, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Kimi no Na wa, and JoJo, and they're all bigger than Frieren. But you might be right about this decade. The only other things that come close are JJK and Spy x Family.

>>279844509
I find it funny how you do nothing but repeat that either Lodoss is shit or Frieren is better without saying why. It's like you have nothing to defend your point, but you still force yourself to reply because of some autistic fight you're carrying on in your mind.

>>279845352
Its strange that people such as yourself assume they have an argument to be countered in the first place.

>>279845293
this is not reddit jamal
go back there kindly at once
>>279845368
ARGHHH YOU INSULTED MY SLOPPAAA PERMA BAN IT IS JUST GOOD YOU INCEL IT IS GOOOD SHE IS NUMBER 1 ON MY ANIME LIST
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>279845368
At least I can give the reasons why I prefer something instead of just screaming ‘'pee-pee poo-poo’' like an autist.

>>279845554
His reply is identical to yours. Your self-awareness is severely lacking. In fact, the only person in the thread who bothered to back their argument was the insane onimai retard.

>>279845614
it is okay brother you can stop samefagging it is getting kinda pathetic at this point

>>279845614
>the only person in the thread who bothered to back their argument was the insane onimai retard
What backing?

>>279845682
>samefagging
>>279845701
This is really something else. I'm getting tired of this.

>>279845721
>This is really something else. I'm getting tired of this.
No seriously, how did he back his argument? Because he hasn't said anything meaningful in this entire thread.

nothing happens in lodoss though. deedlit is cute and of course it looks wonderful but watching it is actually a bore

>>279845758
>No seriously, how did he back his argument?
His arguments are directly backed by evidence and he articulated why they were relevant as well as countered their criticisms. Animation is a style. Obviously, there is a stark difference between SHAFT and kyoani even though they are both equally good at animation, and they leverage their strengths accordingly. There is no perfect animation. If a sword swing lacks impact, that's a style, a really bad one actually. Frieren is not a good manga. The anime took a slightly above average manga and elevated it to an extreme height, whereas lodoss looks like... this. >>279845216 There's very specific reasons for its color composition, character design, soundtrack, storyboarding, etc, that Lodoss simply can't touch and stomping your feet and saying no isn't going to change that.

>>279845939
is your favorite style called sloppa?

>>279845939
>His arguments are directly backed by evidence and he articulated why they were relevant as well as countered their criticisms
When? You're still not being specific. Really, his big mistake was taking the bait on the dragon fight comparison. I'm not going to pretend that there aren't things Frieren does better than Lodoss but that was not an argument he should've taken. It left him grasping for straws and nitpicking and unable to defend when it was turned onto him so he ran away from that fight. He also tried arguing about the character design and "aesthetics" and was totally lost there.

>>279846121
Nice argument.

>>279846137
>Really, his big mistake was taking the bait on the dragon fight comparison.
He's correct there. That webm is even taken directly from sakugabooru, and if you look there you'll even find people commenting the specific cut he pointed out is absolutely insane. You can't just say dumb things like this and assume people will agree with your entirely subjective viewpoints when you don't understand how aesthetic and animation works at all. It just makes you look like a dumb animal.

>>279846175
you are basically arguing your viewpoint is right because people gave you upvotes on it, made same comments? sorry bro frieren looks like zoomzoom shit keep coping

What the fuck does Frieren have to do with Deedlit you fucking bait-chugging spergs? There is absolutely nothing in Frieren that is comparable to Lodoss War except it's fantasy and there's an elf chick in it. The mood and everything is completely different, Frieren is a completely different character.

>>279846252
>sorry bro frieren looks like zoomzoom shit keep coping
Another nice argument.

if frieren looks like zoomzoom shit old anime looks like septic tank slurry lol

>>279829042 (OP)
thats really cool but unlike Lodoss, Frieren actually has good animation
both dont really have any story, but Frieren at least presents itself better
Lodoss is just a mess without any structure

yes i watched only the OVAs
yes it was dogshit
literally just an anime of some faggots DnD session

>>279846137
Oh my fucking god dude, Yutaka Nakamura did the dragon scene in Frieren. Do you even know what you're saying?

You just don't understand, Lodoss is amazing. It's too subtle and nuanced for your ADD addled brains to comprehend.

>gets offended by being called zoomzoom
confirmed underage nigger lmfao
>OH MY GAWD LE GOD DID LE SCENE LE BIG NAME YOU HAVE TO LOVE IT
zoomers and niggers need to be put down

>>279846435
>I hate zoomers!!!!!
>screams about the one scene in the entire anime made by the boomer animator

>>279846456
sorry bro i am the op and i did not scream about one scene i just pointed out the fact that there is nothing original about frieren no reddit, it is pseudo intellectual shit and animation is sloppa for tiktok generation

Zoomers don't actually care about animation, they just think anything with bright flashy colors is good. Me? I prefer for the action to not actually be shown on screen. I want it presented in a visual metaphor of saturated red lights.

>>279846494
exactly my point
but you cannot actually have a point
they just throw tantrum and shit at you and spam it down your throat till you leave

>>279846175
Some other people said the same thing isn't an argument. Also, what exactly did they say? Some of them are even criticizing the Frieren fight scene.
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/118854
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/250896

What an intense moment, how will our heroes ever get out of this one?

>>279846652
lmao holy shit

>>279846652
ten out of ten on that fucking filename.

>>279829042 (OP)
Mushoku Tensei for normalfags. Bonus points since it's not an isekai so people who turn their nose up at isekai will actually watch it. That's really it. Not being an isekai and not having problematic elements.

>>279846848
>Mushoku Tensei for normalfags.
isnt the MT LN more popular than the frieren manga

>>279829089
>it's way too basic and generic.
The story was based on a D&D campaign, what were you expecting? But yeah, the story gets boring around the same time the animation progressively gets worse. The fight between the dragons near the end (pic related) is literally just two static images roaring at each other. People on Twitter who watched the same nitpicked clips sure LOVE the OVAs though.

>>279847059
The other dragon. The whole (long-ass) scene is more of a staring contest than a fight.

>>279847059
>>279847128
The two dragons entering was epic, the Tik-tok generation lack the IQ necessary to appreciate this.

>>279846869
Yeah but mainly in the 3rd world/Asia.

Humans?
Elves?
Is that right?
Do not trust pairings, incompatible mating rituals.

>>279830344
>>279830374
they are both OK

>>279829089
The Ys OVA's are honestly kind of underrated.

>>279847506
>Yeah but mainly in the 3rd world
prestigious

>>279829042 (OP)
This is what happens when your character is supposed to be relatable to people who don't easily relate to people, there's a predictable outcry from people who don't understand other people

>>279835423
>>279835509
Every single character in Frieren has this exact same deadpan look, it creates such a dull atmosphere.

>>279848214
The word your looking for is subdued, which is normal and intentional, and more importantly fits the tone of the story imo

>>279846869
>Isnt the MT LN more popular than the frieren manga
Per volume? I doubt it, Frieren manga is about as popular as stuff like Boku no hero now

>>279844327
You can see how all designs have devolved. I want to go back.

>9.5 rating on Douban
This is insanely high for a non-Chinese show.
How did they manage to make something so universally beloved ?

>>279844858
I enjoyed Lodoss but there's definitely better fantasy anime from the era. It meanders and never quite reaches a real climax, like many D&D campaigns are wont to do.

>>279829952
Which Gundam series is about winning war with the power of music, again? Oh yeah. Fucking none of them.

>>279848664
>This is insanely high for a non-Chinese show
Not really. There are plenty of anime with the same rating or higher. The Chinese love anime.

>>279830719
>copy pasted design
>"made her midget and face round"
>"it's not a total copy"
So you immediately contradict your own argument. Is this the first time you've ever seen an elf before, anon?

>>279848780
>Not really
What, 9.5 on Douban is really fucking high, I think only their obsession over sports anime like Slam Dunk and Haikyuu have (slightly) higher ratings. Not even some Chinese classics are rated that high.

>elven ear pierced your body and currently in your liver
What do?

>>279849008
Even excluding sports anime, there are still plenty rated higher than 9.5 like Gintama, Doraemon, JoJo, Cowboy Bebop, Natsume Yuujinchou, Mushishi, Ghost in the Shell and even more rated at 9.5

>>279847059
>>279847156
>when the GM just says fuck it and has the big NPC dragon battle offscreen

>>279848664
>>279849008
It's says Frieren is currently the 19th highest rated Japanese title of all time on douban. It was clearly very popular just not the most popular ever (difference between top 20 is negligible anyway), stop being faggots

>>279829418
>Onimai poster
>Trvke opinion
unfathomably based

>>279829042 (OP)
Lodoss and Deedlit make zoomers seethe lmao.

I want to thank this thread for convincing me to not watch freiren after all.

Here's your epic duel between dragons bro

Wasn't that worth all the hype?

>>279829510
That show has some funny ass jokes.
>>279829752
Her relationship with Louie seemed like the most genuine out of the main cast, and the scene with her helping Louie do push-ups is great.

>>279849837
>>279849854
These are the best looking dragons in all visual media btw.

>>279849679
I want to thank this thread for convincing me to not watch Lodoss after all

>>279850069
Read the novels instead.

>>279829042 (OP)
If there's any 90s anime girl that Frieren's design was ripped from, it's Ruri from Martian Successor Nadisco. Unlike Lodoss, Nadeisco is actually a fun anime to watch.

>>279830344
>>279830374
Wins

>>279830585
cubes=kino.

>>279832362
Elevens have notoriously bad taste, it is known.

>>279848664
Combining exactly the right amounts of smug and elf.

>>279849462
>difference between top 20 is negligible anyway
There were like 20 other anime with the same rating below Frieren so it was more like top 40

god i hate frieren reddit zoomer niggers so fucking bad
just accept the fact that some people do not like your piece of shit shonen

>>279851998
Ok.

>>279829042 (OP)
seggs with elves

>>279829418
>My opinion is justified because some old farts said so
lmao mcgundamslop and neon milkesis overratedgelion have room to say things because they are old and anime
what next, we get a quote from miyazaki???

>>279829042 (OP)
Redditors lose their minds over the idea of demons being the bad guys, everyone who glazed Freiren to begin with was called cunnylickerheilhitlerniggerapist1488 on Twitter and they gave up and called it Reddit anime because they got bored and too many of the other fans clearly weren't lolicons which is their literal only metric for what anime fandom is.

>>279851998
>just accept the fact that some people do not like
Oh so preferences exist now? Are you some kind of postmodern art is subjective everything is relative coomer zoomer trooner now? Or is that only how it works when we don't want to be constantly lectured by people who know nothing, accused of things that never happened and threatened with things that won't over not wanting to watch cunnyslop with you? Flailing, meaningless fucking noise because one show that got popular isn't completely awful.

>>279854770
>things that never happen
>>279854862
lol just look at the animation, non stop flashing of colors
its shit without substance
kys jamal

>>279829042 (OP)
It lacks character or plot hooks, ending up average when contrasted to New or Old anime, due to its nature as Supplementary Material, theres just no hook to it.

the only thing i care about with frieren is a character that's already dead

>>279836339
I think Rune Soldier was animated digitally.

>Record of Lodoss War (1990-91)
is this the anime you guys are talking about?

>>279860565
pls confirm/deny so I know if i should download the torrent i found

>>279861132
Watch in order 2-5, 1, 6-7. Ignore episode 8 onward.

>>279861208
the show aired out of order?

>>279830374
That Sakuga looks like shit, at least Lodoss is not rotoscoped crap, just look at that ground Becoming an uniform single color floor,!! At least Lodoss maintains the fucking background.

>>279862167
Also how is he able to slide on rocks like he is butter?

>>279862272
Dumbest post of the day

>>279862272
momentum + friction-away spell

>>279860420
You're right. Louie is actually one of the "troglodyte" shows, as the other anon puts it.

Is the ESL Lodoss autist still at it? Lmao
Worst thread I have seen all week

This site’s one-sided obsession with Reddit is honestly fascinating. Can someone explain why redditors live rent-free in so many anons’ heads?

>>279861436
It was an OVA. The first episode was meant to immediately throw you into the action to keep you hooked but it's hard to understand when it actually happens and what's actually going on.

>>279829042 (OP)
Settle down, tryhard faggot. Frieren is one of the better animated shows of the decade. Also "good vs evil" is easy as bricks to understand, and you're calling it 2deep4u?

>>279863805
>Frieren is one of the better animated shows of the decade.
it's completely mid what are you talking about, literally insane take

>>279861208
Why ignore 8 onward?

>>279863527
Reddit is the face of the decline of anime. This has been a place for people who care about anime forever, the decline and censorship has been a depressing constant for the last decade, it's that decline and normalfag anime watchers who approve of it that lives rent-free in anons heads and Reddit is a place where those kinds of people congregate

>>279830374
>random cube
what does it mean, thematically?

>>279864197
Episodes 1 to 7 adapt a single volume of the novels. Episdes 8 to 13 four, the last of which wasn't even finished when it released. It's just a rushed mess.
They later made a new adaption of those parts as a 27 episode TV series.

>>279861208
>>279864567
But Pirotess

>>279839519
Give me examples of "quality" according to you

>>279830374
This looks terrible.

>>279830589
>It has flashy SFX spam so its good!
toddlerbrain.

>>279829418
>now

>>279862704
>friction-away spell
You need friction to run

If Lodoss is as shit as the anons in this thread make it seem, why does it still get shilled as a classic?

>>279829042 (OP)
I like it because it's the one thing I've always wanted: a tale about the hero party members after their journey is over.
Most stories like that were depressing and messed up. Frieren is the first hopeful story I've read despite the fact that the hero has already died and she has lost all chance.

>>279830374
The swipe to its claw sending him back upwards is so cool.

>>279846652
God, I miss colors.

>>279866459
>why does it still get shilled as a classic
it doesnt

>>279848214
I rather that than retarded histrionic Shonen personalities

>>279867542
there are mentions of it in the archive (usually along with slayers/escaflowne) but I missed it before these threads lol

>>279829042 (OP)
>copy
Lordoss war or whatever the fuck was just a very fucking cheap and lazy imitation of LOTR. Only reason people bring it up is because coomers goon to the she-elf.

>>279866459
>why does it still get shilled as a classic
The she-elf is the only reason. Have you ever seen the dwarf party member in the shill threads? I thought not.

>>279829752
Ila was hands down best girl.

>>279829042 (OP)
The biggest turn-off for me about Frieren is the complete lack of facial expressions. The protagonist being like this makes sense but 99% of the cast rarely shows any emotion.
>It's...It's realistic.
Real people don't act like robots.

Also, the character design is pretty bland.

>>279868419
That's why Aura is so popular. She displayed more emotions and facial expressions in her one scene than other characters did in the entire show.

>>279868524
>That's why Aura is so popular
lol no it isn't, it's because she got memed on for being a comically arrogant idiot.
She just became a vehicle for dozens of bullying memes

>>279868524
Pretty much this

>>279868747
If Aura was deadpan and emotionless all the way through like everybody else, Frieren bullying and humiliating her wouldn't be so memorable and memed.

>>279868419
>Lack of facial expressions
She's literally smiling in the pic you posted

>>279868524
It's literally just her aesthetic and nothing else. If she looked more generic nobody would've said she was put to waste.

>>279871764
I swear half of the people interested in the anime was too busy being demon apologists than watching the anime, I don't think most people even know she's dead, they just know she existed and now waifu her

>>279868912
Why is she smiling after being brutally injured? Is she dumb?

>>279829089


Same here, watched it because they were talking about it on X, it got boring after a while and wasn't that good, just had good art

>>279872331
If you're gunna spend a week having a mental breakdown and concern trolling can you at least try to be funny

they both look good for different reasons, faggots

>>279830611
basically black hole/breakdown of reality due to hitting extreme limits of what "magic" can do

it looks cool, but it wasn't a particularly well choreographed "fight sequence"

What's up with retro larpers doubling down on the absolute dumbest opinions? How hard is it to watch a new anime? What compels someone to behave like this? You haven't been constipated with thoughts on Lodoss for the last 30 years, you just watched this garbage and now you're looking to bait it against the only new anime you watched, Frieren, because you're a dumb newfag. Give me a break lol. Compare Frieren to an actual *good* anime, now that would really be something.

Frieren is the Dragon Ball Z of this generation, deal with it

>>279838822
The Frierenfag that shits up their threads is Brazilian.

>>279830374


Zoomer coded and much better animated. The actual action is much better than the old anime even if people don't want to admit it

>>279872886
>shits up their threads
They don't need any help with that.

>>279830344
Looks way better than
>>279830374

I don’t like this modern trend of spastic camera movement, ugly rotoscoping/3d environments and cubes. It looks so dizzying and cheap. Another thing Frieren lacks is the human expression, see how all the characters in the Lodoss webm showing fear determination shock like they’re real humans. Meanwhile Frieren characters always have those dead eyes or some generic shounen ‘EYAAAA’ face like in that dragon webm or when Ubel makes her cliche psycho face.

It’s ironic that a series supposed to be an emotional journey fails to capture or even convey real emotion. At least Lodoss knew what it was, a generic televised DnD campaign. Frieren is supposed to be better yet fails to do the basics of storytelling

>>279836565
That’s just popularity though

>>279873359
>remove all the storytelling from the scene and keep only the battlesakugafagging
>durr this fails at storytelling

>>279849837
I like how they clearly had limited resources but made do without it ending in a disgrace. It doesn't always end well in such circumstances today and didn't back then either.

I still like it more than the 165fps GOTTA GO FAST Stark running with gratuitously rotating camera because that's cheap in 3DCG and it makes people not notice the awfully featureless ground graphics.
The flat ground you would get in such 3D animations in cel era too, so that is not something that deserves ridicule.
The supersmooth 3dCG running is funny looking tho.

Seriously Frieren has nice animation don't post Stark/dragon it's lulzy.

>>279873603
>dude is scared of dragon
>mans up and kills dragon
Not a real story, told in a boring manner too (oh my flashback, no emotions)

>>279863262
I would have to see more than on the screenshots but I rather doubt it's digital. The style tracks with late cel.

>>279873644
>because that's cheap in 3DCG
Its not CG

>>279860420
>>279863262
Now I checked some clips on youtube and you are right, that's the "troglodyte era" digital animation.
the pic in >>279863262 fooled me

The original poster >>279829752 I reacted to is clearly hand-drawn art though. That style captured in it usually doesn't translate to digital animation. Sure, exceptions like this where it is somewhat visible exist, but generally the new tools brought new style features with them.

>>279873803
I could see the figure being hand drawn (traced possibly, tho) but the background? Naw.

>>279873844
>That style captured in it usually doesn't translate to digital animation.
You have no idea what you're saying

>>279873921
All of it is drawn.

>>279829042 (OP)
Too bad that there's no fan art of her.

>old/new anime good/bad
Could be a lot worse.
>yeah but the remake is more authentic to muh original LNs... which actually weren't that good at all.

>>279874709


Lots of people still think that all new anime is bad

>>279874709
90's animation and artstyle was so good.

>>279875490
Neither of those adaptations are good. It's weird that people praise the shittiest old anime and overlook stuff like escaflowne

>>279875528
I was talking about the artstyle. I like how it looks.

>>279874064
then whats with the cube?

>>279875624
You specifically said animation. Same character designer that worked on Lodoss did Escaflowne by the way, except this time he wasn't hindered by a shitty director and a blasé DnD clone, so he was allowed to really shine here. Here we can see an actual swordfight that puts the dogshit in Lodoss to shame. Not that Escaflowne is without flaw of course, it has many of the typical issues found in old anime, but its a shame that retro larpers are so ignorant.

>>279875803
Yeah, 90's animation and artstyle. I did not say anything about orphen.

>>279875815
And I'm pointing out how retarded and wrong you are.

>>279864567
Does that mean it's best to watch episodes 1-7 and then the TV series?

>>279875840
No, you aren't.

>>279875944
I am absolutely certain people like you obsessively sling your garbage here, not because you appreciate old anime, but because you want to lower the bar until the board is dumb and boring enough for you to participate on equal footing. Good anime never gets discussed. Its always trashy schlock.

>>279875884
The TV-series isn't that great either.

>>279875986
Neither are 90% of anime, there's not much else to watch

>>279875993
You haven't even watched 1% of good anime.

>>279876000
Name 5 and I'll tell you if I've seen them

>>279876003
sangatsu no lion
ousama ranking
non non biyori
mob psycho
made in abyss

>>279875970
You are extremely upset over a scenario you invented in your head.

>>279876056
I can look at the board and see it right now. I see it in this thread and I see it here >>279860454

All garbage. People think because something is old it doesn't get to be held to the same standards as new anime and they can get away with bullshit, but the exact opposite is true. The older something is, the more heavily critiqued it deserves to be.

>>279876030
>sangatsu no lion
Watched it, loved it
>ousama ranking
Haven't seen it, I'll add it to my list
>non non biyori
Watched it
>mob psycho
Watched it
>made in abyss
Watched it, now read manga, masterpiece. Have any other suggestions? Lodoss appeals to me because of fantasy + 90s aesthetic and atmosphere. I actually want to look more into the entirety of Sword World

>>279875970
Recommend some good anime then instead of just shouting into the wind

>>279876084
>add it to my list
Go watch it now and stop wanking over garbage. You don't get to be spoonfed for shitting up the board.

>>279876097
>Recommend
have you tried boku no pico

>>279876100
>discussing an anime that the thread is based on
>shitting up the board
Be honest anon the people whining about it are shitting up the board far more than the people discussing and interested in it. It's downloading and I may well watch it soon but I would have preferred something more immersive with more attractive characters

>>279876126
>Be honest anon the people whining about it are shitting up the board far more than the people discussing and interested in it
There is no discussion when its just you bumping the thread for 4 days and crying about everyone that doesn't go along with your narrative. Extremely newfaggy and cancerous behavior.

>>279876155
>me
Literally made a handful of posts in this thread, 1 yesterday and the rest replies to you. If you're going to argue at least don't schizopost

>>279876162
Bro, the board is full of these shitty forever threads that drag on forever because some newfaggot is trying to push an agenda. Its rapefugee tier astroturfing.

>>279876082
>and I see it here >>279860454
It sounds like you're just mad people are enjoying things you don't

>recommend me boilerplate dnd fantasy when japan has created countless better fantasy settings or I'll shit up the board forever
There are hundreds of generic isekai to watch. Now go away.

>>279876084
Read the novels and replays.

>>279875837
>Unicorn Overlord
All of the classes and playable characters in this game that wear sandals/show their feet are girls. The playable characters who show their feet are Fran, Selvie, Celeste, Rosalinde, and Eltolinde, all girls. The only generic classes that show their feet are gryphon knight/gryphon master and shaman/druid, all female classes. This pleases me greatly.

>>279875837
Also, if you can't tell, you have a png with a larger file size but somehow lower quality than the jpeg. You can do better.

>>279876503
I appreciate that her dress is see-through.

>>279876503
How is she hot?

I think it's alright, I can't believe what a big deal the show is though. It's cute and decently written, but it's pretty bland.

>>279874064
God, that's so good.
Why can't anime be released like this?
The colors were distracting from the pure animation that's going on.

>>279876030
>Ousama ranking
I like mute MCs.

>>279876782
It is great to see the artist's hand directly for a bit, but for a full episode, or a season, it's more immersive to be painted (even if there is no longer an ink & paint department). The presence of the animator is a reason I stick with anime though. Westoid animation went largely to pixar rendering and there's no end to intra-industry dick sucking trying to praise the medium, which is literally pointless to watch. May as well watch and critique AI.

>>279872886
what place DON'T they shit up is the real question
huehua

>>279876782
It's the same throughout the whole season
Even the 3rd tier supporting characters get high quality hand drawn animation cuts

>>279876082
you just sound like a bitch over people enjoying things like cynical stan from south park
maybe you should just an hero irl
go find your ipod

>>279875803
Escaflowne did not deserve the production values it got. Crazy animation and soundtrack

>>279868419
Americans are fucking retarded, they need histrionic shonen reactions a la Kimetsu no Yaiba to understand how a character is feeling.

>>279878846
Frierencopers always use this strawman
>Don’t like our blank faced plastic dolls? Well sorry Frieren doesn’t have your beloved EYAAAAAA overexpressive shonen basedboy face!!!1111

>>279878893
Dude is hardstuck at Potterhead level taste

>>279877053
this webm has more emotions expressed through few facial frames than entire reddit no frieren lol

Frieren if she old and sovlfvll

>>279879027
too much emotions and her face is not a literal circle, sorry no

>>279878872
nta but it's not a straw man at all, everybody knows that anime got super popular since COVID. Alot of anime watchers now will not have seen much before demonslayer, the anime with the comically ott retards and flashy over animated facial expressions. Same applies across alot of shonen now, they have to try and pander to retards who speedwatch or watch Tiktok at the same time. Literally trying to grab their attention because if things are not flashing and people are not screaming they will zone out and miss how characters are responding.

So this is why like itt, when you put forward an anime character you would typical see in anime from decades before this modern trend they literally cannot tell there is any emotion because they don't dial the expressions up to shonenshit retard level

Modern anime watchers would have an utter meltdown if somebody sat them down to watch Eva for 8 hours of Rei's blank staring, stone faced monotone.

I like both Lodoss and Frieren.

>>279875528
>>279875803
>overlook stuff like escaflowne
Still inventing scenarios in your head to get mad about?
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/escaflowne/

>>279829042 (OP)
Because they love le sad melancholic shitnmes that make occasional goofy faces.

>>279846848
>not an isekai
It's basically a native isekai naroukei tier shit.

>>279878872
Histrionic cartoony characters only work jn comedies.
That's why I like them in Mob Psycho but I despise them in Frieren, the author is based for keeping these moments to specific scenes far apart from each other not breaking the general tone of the show (for the most part) instead of making them act like your average Shonen slop.

People that say characters in Frieren are monotonous are shonentards or americans that need everything explained to them

>>279829042 (OP)
>pseudo intellectual bullshit
it's pretty fucking clear, nothing intellectual or pseud about it
>why do redditors...
you don't like it due to it being popular and want to feel special about it by using dishonest framing.

>>279829042 (OP)
But the Lodoss OVA is a level of quality animation that I don't think people of the time at the time could have repeated. It is stunning to look at.
Frieren is not even remotely close to that tier of animation. It's bordering impossible now. Too costly and cel animation is dead, jim.

I wish Frieren was this level of quality. I wish any anime was this level of quality, even old cel anime.

>>279879304
Still images are not animation.

>>279829089
>and it was godawfully boring after like 4 episodes
I agree, but I am animation autist and there is not a single anime as well drawn. It's even beating Ghibli from the era. It's the magnum opus for japanese animation in my opinion.

Disney cel animation also peaked around that period too. Just when cel animation and digital techniques were synthesizing, but more cel orientated than digital effects orientated. By Tarzan that was all over (though even it, Atlantis and Treasure Planet had SOUL, despite being digital) and it seems like anime had the same issue by 1997. Hell even NGE had niggles.
There's just something in the techniques of that era that was just better. I often find music had the same problem when it transitioned from analog samplers and loopers to mere DAWs - the techniques changed and it made the music more bland. When some people started to avoid DAWs in the late 10s, it definitely proved the DAW was the issue.
It's the same with animation I think.

>>279879062
>Modern anime watchers would have an utter meltdown if somebody sat them down to watch Eva for 8 hours of Rei's blank staring, stone faced monotone.
Very telling that you left out the other characters. Using the girl who's meant to act like an emotionless doll as the example defeats your own point. The funny thing is Rei still shows more expressions than Frieren characters.

>>279879366
rasheed, age 15, IQ 72

>>279830613
>Everything is hilariously split up and heavily sequenced

what does that mean for those of us who don't get technical stuff?

>>279830589
This looks cool, but this >>279830374 fucking sucks ass and I nearly vomited.
The former is something that couldn't be done in 1990 too. That's why it's cool, it's cutting new ground. The latter is retreading old ground and very badly.

>>279879371
>It's the magnum opus for japanese animation
Surely that's the Kenshin ova?

>>279830719
Deedlit is nothing like Frieren.
Frieren has her own moe and is more comedic with her design.
Deedlit has more ethereal beauty. Like an angel.

They both do two very different things in their show. Deedlit is a ditsy beauty. Frieren is ... an actual character kek.

Marcille is superior.

>>279879459
they are both supposed to be elves man

>>279879382
>Rei still shows more expressions than Frieren characters.
No she doesn't and there are an absolute mountain of other examples of characters from pre COVID anime that are the same. You complaining that Frieren's characters don't act like post-2020 anime retards like it's some sort of criticism is the funniest thing though

Frieren is okay. The major drawbacks it has are: 1) the narrative pretending the magic system is deep (it's okay to have a poorly developed magic system if it's purpose is to develop characters and help along the plot but stop pretending it has any sort of internal consistency lmao), 2) every ship the series tries to push being the worst thing I have ever seen with awful chemistry (except himmel/frieren which imo does work as an okay plot device), 3) the shipping and romance (outside Himmel/frieren) being so childish really takes away from the main themes of the show and makes it feel cheaper and childish, and 4) Kanne's design is jaw droppingly bad.
Overall it's an alright anime.

>>279879506
>No she doesn't and there are an absolute mountain of other examples of characters from pre COVID anime that are the same
Sure, whatever you say. I guess there are mountains of other examples of kuuderes.

>>279830932
>the shading
>the line drawing
>the design in general

Frieren wouldn't be Frieren if she was drawn this way. She'd be too serious for the show and too ethereal.

A better comparable character to Deedlit is Lafiel from Crest of the Stars. She's basically the same sort of character role, though not an elf (actually a human morphed for servitude(?) I forget) and in space.
It's a pity even by 1999 animation was dropping off fast. They really didn't do as well of a job for Lafiel as they did for Deedlit and she's a far better character.

>>279876782
It's not colors itself. It's modern anime coloring.

>>279849008
>Not even some Chinese classics are rated that high.
That's kinda sad.
Fuck they have such fucking bad shills there ay. This wouldn't surprise me that much. It's getting bad in the west too though, and Japan. Just to compete.
The whole culture is getting fucked from this.

>I sure hope pajeets won't worsen this ahaha...ha.... fuck.

>>279863527
>plebbit has been capping and spamming our posts for it's content for years
>not negatively either, just stealing jokes
>wonders why we're so obsessed with calling them cancer

The thing about account media is that it breeds mod grooming. That's much much harder on anonymous media without spam and paid shills.

>>279875803
I will admit, that does look better than Lodoss.

>>279875837
Man, vanillaware makes great looking games ay. 13 Sentinels looks stunning.

Isn't this game a gacha or something though? Sigh...

>>279879424
Yeah that was pretty good.
The main anime wasn't that great though.
The manga is stunning though.

The new show makes me want to nuke Japan.

this thread makes me wanna suck fat cock

>>279876782
>The colors were distracting from the pure animation that's going on.
They aren't though, you just have literal dunning kruger brainrot.

>>279842359
Yes

>>279881550
Kino no tabi is one of those anime that fits neatly onto the "retarded subhuman larper" lists.

>>279879459
Frieren isn’t a character either lmao, she’s just kuudere who learns how to feel no. 182648. No depth past that, so not really much better than Deedlit’s cute damsel in distress personality

>>279881995
Keep huffing copium as it slowly dawns on you how below average not only Lodoss is, but you are.

>>279879256
Again fuck off with your strawman, nobody is talking about LMAO goofy kny faces we’re talking about that constant bored looking resting bitch face every character in Frieren makes even during moments of tension. It’s monotone and destroys any. Even ‘mature’ anime will have expressive characters and I’m not talking KYAAAA, I mean they’ll show emotions in the eyes or open their mouth etc.

>>279882073
??? Both are generic af. Frieren is just post-campaign Lodoss, even has the same cliche hero-dwarf-priest setup.

Would you guys even have a chance withe either Deedlit and/or Frieren?

>>279882170
>Strawman
Yet you don't provide any example of Shonen that doesn't do that so I'm right.
Characters in Frieren do emote, if you are unable to see it then your brain is just rotted with Shonen or moeshit shenanigans, or you are just american.

>>279882596
>you are just american
Why do you think it is Americans when 99% of shitposters are European? Most of the posters in the /dbs/ and naruto generals are European, as we know from /bant/.

>>279829246
>Elves in animanga were invented by ROLW
Holy shit, the retardation

>>279882170
>we’re talking about [my schizophrenic hallucinations]
There's plenty of webms with the characters emoting. This is objectively memecriticism you made up, you never explain yourself how come you didn't look at one such webm and then complain when someone assumes that you expect shonen, or heck you just parroting someone who made the criticism. People will naturally have to make assumptions on what your meaning is if you make things up and don't elaborate, thats how it works pal.