Thread 281325721

With the increasing popularity of anime by outside circles and 'normals' as one might be inclined to call them, has anyone on /a/ let it affect their views of anime?

Me personally, I just refuse to watch certain anime outright in relation to how many americans interact with it. Dandandan and Jujutsu no Kaisen are two major examples of anime I can never reliably watch due to western bases just unnerving me with their obsession for it.

Is this reasoning sensible? Does /a/ engage in something similar when picking up new shows? Does /a/ even watch anime anymore?

Becky sex

I don't care what normalfags watch or like.

>>281325772
Its that mindset that has killed videogames and other western media though. You ignore the issue and refuse to gatekeep, and they gradually warp the media you've loved with their perversions. Are you okay with that, anon? Are you okay with the japanese kneeling and making their shows more inbound for american tastes?

>>281325892
You're talking about two different things. Revolving your taste around what normalfags watch/like is different from the what you're taking as infiltration of anime/manga by a boogeyman you take as the US. You're not saying in the OP that anime is getting worse because of it, you're saying that you pick and choose what to like based on what other people like.

>>281325721 (OP)
No, that's retarded.
>>281325892
Gatekeeping doesn't exist. You can't even gatekeep /a/, nevermind anime itself. And even if you could, not watching things because other people like them surely wouldn't be the way to do it.
At least try to think about cause and effect for a few seconds.

>>281325721 (OP)
You mentioned 2 shows not worth watching so I would say you are on the right track. Take for example Fire Force, waaay better than those 2 titles but normalfags can't stand it, I say is the right mindset to have most of the time with a few exceptions around.
If you ask for my personal view, I don't care, I watched both DDD and JJK, they are ok at best.

Obviously general reception might skew your appreciation of a show a little and give you some bias but it shouldn't be too big. You might not be willing to engage with the show and skip it altogether for these reasons which is fine occasionally, your time is limited after all, but if you watch the actual show you should give it a fair chance instead of trying to take it down because of the retarded normies

>>281325721 (OP)
Anime died in 2009. We're still here because we don't have anywhere else to go.

>he cares about what other people think
ngmi

>>281325988
>Gatekeeping doesn't exist.
It does.
>You can't even gatekeep /a/, nevermind anime itself.
We can and we have. Perhaps you have a misunderstanding of what gatekeeping truly is. Why don't more neurotypical people come to 4chan or /a/ for their anime needs? Because theres a heavy chance they'll see a racial slur or a loli. Thats a person gatekept from the community.

Why doesn't someone /a/ or 4chan visit a shitshow like twitter, reddit forums or some other regular center for weeb shit. Because their behaviors gatekeep us from wanting to be anywhere near them. That's what it means to gatekeep. You hold your medium/community to a standard, and don't change it for the sake of newcomers.

Anime becoming more popular is gradually changing its standards for western audiences. Here at /a/, we loved anime. We know it is our not our place to change anything of it, and we have always just accepted their bullshit good and all. We fit in and accept anime culture.

The new western fanbase isn't like that, they mald about strange things like skintones, lolis and fan service, actually demanding for the japanese to appease them.

Me ignoring shows doesn't fix the problem ofc, its just a preference. It is ultimately up to the japanese and their authors to naturally 'gatekeep' anime, just as /a/ naturally gatekeeps /a/

Anyways, my point is gatekeeping certainly does exist. It is just a natural part of any community to defend its state of being and not change it for outsiders. That is gatekeeping at its core.

>>281326671
NTA but other than throwing slurs or loli porn to gatekeep communities, I think "gatekeeping" in a cultural sense (not a community one) is more about preserving the original meaning and values of a hobby. In this case, everyone can join the hobby but not change it. The word "gatekeeping" poorly reflects on that.

>>281326366
>Fire Force
is it actually good? it seems like black clover but with far better animation. Also, the fan-service slut looks too plain for my tastes.

>>281325721 (OP)
Being a contrarian is not sensible reasoning, but you already knew that and just wanted to post moeshit.

>>281326822
Great worldbuilding.
Great characters.
Great animation.
Good story.
And you have plenty of sluts, maybe there's one for your tastes, but also
>not getting the appeal of plain girls
You are not a brother of mine.

>>281326822
It's a solid 6 out of 10.
If you absolutely want to read something from the author just read Soul Eater.

>>281326671
Being a fag so no one wants to talk to you is not gatekeeping. Gatekeeping is where you have a gate and control who comes through it. The clue is in the name.

>>281327231
I remeber watching the anime when it came out and it was fucking boring and nonsensical, things happened just because, and everyone having fire powers waa lame

>>281327358
its one and the same

>>281325721 (OP)
She's fucking 6.

>>281325721 (OP)
>letting others affect what I enjoy
No, I reject that notion. I will enjoy (or not) JJK of my own accord.
As to any ideas of "gatekeeping", nobody here is actually of any financial interest to anime studios since nobody here buys the stuff they consoom. As such we don't have the ability to gatekeep anything. Jap studios catering to different sensibilities is entirely unaffected by what we do.

>>281327398
Why ask then, you already made up your mind, still better than the other 2.

>>281327543
I didn't ask, that was another anon. Why did you think that was me, anon?

>>281327528
I occasionally buy manga and art books. Anime less so.

>>281327490
WHAT!? SIX WHOLE MEN!?

>>281325748
t.

>>281327947
I guess I should have been less sweeping with my generilization. I myself actually own several BDs. But I don't think it is an iveral inaccurate assessment, our financial impact on the anime industry is a drop in the ocean.

>>281325721 (OP)
>lust provoking image
>irrelevant time wasting question

>>281325721 (OP)
>>281325721 (OP)
NGL I've been doing the same for the most part. If I see it in like Hot Topic or something I avoid it like the plauge unless I was into it before then like Spy X Family. Otherwise

>>281328546
based

>>281325892
>Are you okay with the japanese kneeling and making their shows more inbound for american tastes?
Isn't that more to do with the reform of japanese society?

>>281328546
why do you shop at hot topic

>>281325721 (OP)
I mainly watch anime to give me a leg up as I try to visualize a series I'm reading.
Like Konosuba, the anime was great. I bought all of the novels and read them. 10/10
Same with Mushoku Tensei. Bought all the novels and read them. Great series. If they would animate the whole thing I'll watch it all the way through, but they won't.

>>281328674
Its a good place to get gifts for the more normie friends I have in life. Plus I like the seat-belt style belts and they're one of the few places that consistently has them in stock.

There's something annoying about JJK being inspired by previous manga, when previous artists had other hobbies they used as inspiration.

I'd rather not talk about the voice acting and animation that gets worse with each passing year.

>>281328753
Based mid 2000s emofag

>>281325892
How do you gatekeep something that is on Netflix, hello? Are you retarded?
Unironically, the only way I can make a difference is by supporting and sharing the stuff I like.

>>281325721 (OP)
Sorry no time to debate, I have anime to watch.

>>281327490
Those 6 guys? They're with me, so make it 7.

>>281329059
you're an idiot, but you prob already know that xd

>>281325721 (OP)
And what is your definition of “normal?” Someone who just thinks lolis and incest shouldn’t be apart of anime?

>>281325988
>You can't even gatekeep /a/
first time I posted here was over a decade ago. I started some obnoxious tourist thread about Death Note and the only reply was a copypasta about corpses & maggots.

>>281328882
I'm pretty normie coded these days, but I always f/w mid 2000s emo aesthetic

BECKY X BAND AID MICROBIKINI!!!!!!!!!!

>>281330795
eek!

>>281326671
>It does.
Gatekeeping is retarded because all it takes is one popular eceleb going "Yeah, this thing is cool" and then it's over.
>We can and we have.
/a/ is the greatest argument for gatekeeping not working whatsoever, as current /a/ is literally everything /a/ claimed to hate, and that will continue forever until the end of time.

>>281325721 (OP)
Becky sex

>>281333161
Yes

>>281325721 (OP)
Anime has literally never been more popular with normies, back in the day watching anime, playing videogames or being into hardcore science fiction marked you as a weirdo, now everyone has anime in their Netflix or whatever queue, even if it's just normiecore entry level anime like Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist or Attack on Titan, and the random live action adaptations serve as an entry point for stuff like One Piece or Bleach which then serves as justification for more anime being made.

>>281333161
She’s 6 you sick fuck!

>>281325721 (OP)
Nothing except judging each work by its own merits is sensible.

>>281325721 (OP)
Sex with Becky

>>281334597
She’s six…

>>281325721 (OP)
kill yourself, twittard

>>281334640
out of sex

>>281327358
Putting a poster saying "here there be lolis" on the gate is a decent way of making sure fags that can't handle lolis don't bother coming through it though.

>>281337029
>Putting a poster saying "here there be lolis" on the gate is a decent way of making sure fags that can't handle lolis don't bother coming through it though.
Except a lot of anime and manga don’t even have the courtesy to warn and jumpscare you half-way in, such as the Usagi Drop manga.

>>281337435
That's literally anime gatekeeping itself from you fags by putting a giant "here there may be lolis" poster over its entire output to ensure you'll stay away from everything.

>>281337502
>That's literally anime gatekeeping itself from you fags by putting a giant "here there may be lolis" poster over its entire output to ensure you'll stay away from everything.
? Do you have reading comprehension issues?? I said Usagi Drop DOESN’T do that, it lulls you into a false sense of security making you think it’s gonna be normal comfy adopted dad and daughter found family times until it pulls the wool over your head that it’s really daughterwife grooming slop near the end.

>>281325721 (OP)
Imagine not being able to objectively judge the quality of anime and deciding based on whether others like it or not. Start by gatekeeping yourself out.

>>281337674
>daughterwife grooming slop
and heres a tourist. you're gatekept and are forcing yourself to be here. Why not go to a mal forum. Usagi drop was cringe kino but queer niggers like you took it too seriously from the start.

>>281337941
>and heres a tourist. you're gatekept and are forcing yourself to be here.
Are you implying that 99% of anime is about grooming lolis so normalfags shouldn’t even try to get into anime or manga to begin with?

>>281334640
Six inches deep

>>281337989
>Are you implying that 99% of anime is about grooming lolis so normalfags shouldn’t even try to get into anime or manga to begin with?
Pretty much. Though thats hardly ever the case. Tourists like you seethe at the very appearance of lolis. If they can't handle that much then they need to kick rocks and get back to gooning to marvel scat.

Gatekeeping faggotry is way worse than whatever normalfags are doing

The only thing for me is I used to be able to rely on /a/ pretty regularly to find shows that I wouldn't normally pick up, that turned out to be pretty good, because they'd get some threads spammed on /a/.
Now that /a/ is a bunch of sad boring permabumped generals where everything is the same sort of boring all the time, that doesn't work.

Last thing that got enough threads for me to notice it was ID: Invaded.

>>281338178
>>281337989
>>281337674
we get it, you hate lolis. But its one thing to hate it, its another thing to demand that the japanese remove it entirely from their shows. Its ridiculous how you think they have to 'warn' you, an outsider, that it's even there. No one is obligated to do that shit for you. That is your problem. Deal with cunny popping up from time to time, or leave. Tourist.

You're all such entitled niggers まったく, まったく

>>281338025
That won't satisfy a size queen like Becky

tickling Becky's delicate undeveloped bean

>>281338421
NormalCHADS won thoughie

>>281338579
you'll be a cunnyposter within the year, normalnigger. Your people have no real morals.

>>281338421
>But its one thing to hate it, its another thing to demand that the japanese remove it entirely from their shows.
So a demand from the literal U.N. themselves is wrong now?

>>281325721 (OP)
this is how I felt when you people started showing up here

>>281338691
thats the gayest most retarded thing i've read from an anon in years. I'm just going to assume you're shitposting and avoid your retardation. Sheesh!

>>281338691
UN is a literal Judeo-Bolshevik invention to undermine the west

>>281325721 (OP)
believe used to be baitable

>>281338834
>UN is a literal Judeo-Bolshevik invention to undermine the west
That’s anime itself though, only replace Bolshevik with Asian

>>281337989
>Are you implying that 99% of anime is about grooming lolis so normalfags shouldn’t even try to get into anime or manga to begin with?
Yes. It's not for you, and it's telling you that. Stay away.

>>281325721 (OP)
I don't care what others think of it. They can hate anime or love it. What matters to me is how I feel about it.

>>281325721 (OP)
>how many americans interact with it.
i like Frieren but for Spyfam, the manga is miles better IMO.

>>281325892
>You ignore the issue and refuse to gatekeep,
sure i told grapeape to ban webtoons and CCP novels back to >>>/lit/ but he ignored me.

This entire thread is newfag niggertrannies from vantablack hell.
Meds, meds, MEDS! You all need your schizo meds!

You people complain about people not doing enough gatekeeping but people get angry when i try to gatekeep this board from gookshit and chinkshit

>>281339420
>gookshit, chinkshit
All ultimately the same as anime, all Asians have the same art style and culture.

>>281325721 (OP)
>White and Asian men: the majority of weebs and otaku who goon to 2D women
>Black & Brown POC men: Non-weebs who only watch masculine chad anime like DBZ, constantly cuck White and Asian “men” out of their women
Curious…

>>281340001
no, grapeape. no. that's like saying all indians are asian so they must all look anime.

>>281340268
>indians are Asians
They aren’t though, they’re some mestizo-esque abomination mix of Caucasian and Australoid, meanwhile all East Asians belong to the Mongoloid race and share a similar Confucianist culture and values.

Jeets are closer to Papuans and Australian Aboriginals than any East Asians.

>>281340001
>All ultimately the same as anime, all Asians have the same art style and culture.
They really don't

>>281340001
Nice try, Mr. Park.

>>281327571
Ahh yes he was suppsoed to magicly know you were someone else. Its called following the conversation anon. I k ow this is /a/ but not having autism is easy you should try it sometime

>>281328708
>Konosuba
>Mushoku Tensei
You have to be 18 years or older to use this website

>>281340001
You're part of the problem Kim

>>281340407
that anon was being sarcastic, anon. you'd know that if you weren't genuinely stupid

>>281334640
Out of 5.

>>281325721 (OP)
no, i don't let others determine my tastes. that's peak retard behavior.
i know shit anime when i see it. i know good anime when i see it. i'm passionate about good anime,
that is all.

>>281325892
>apple pc
windows bros...

>>281340674
>shit anime vs good anime
Give some examples of both according to your opinion then?

>>281325721 (OP)
>Alive dead
>relativity
>view points

>>281325721 (OP)
>>281325748
Anime is dead because lolis are

>>281325772
>t.normalfag

>>281325721 (OP)
This is not remotely new. When the Big Three were at their peak, pre-2010, a huge number of faggots on /a/ hated them for being mainstream and flooded their threads endlessly.
When SAO was airing, a huge number of faggots on /a/ hated it for being mainstream and flooded their threads endlessly.
/a/ didn't start to heal from this autism until the CAPTCHA was introduced. And even then, we still had manual flooding faggots around until around, like, 2013, when they were finally all rounded up and killed.

>>281342520
all subcultures are always going to have contrarians and isolationists who engage in a form of anti-bandwagoning where they see something popular in their community and decide to hate on it for not being "a real part of the community". purity spiral, or whatever. How many anons remember when Ranma½ was the "normalfag gateway anime", and you weren't considered a "true anime fan" unless you personally flew to Japan to privately import OVAs and read the dialogue off a printed-out translation sheet (back before hardcoded subtitles were readily available for everything)?

>>281342670
Ranma was my first anime... Wonder how many true fans thought of me as a normalfag.

>>281342714
depends. by the time Toonami and dubbed anime on broadcast TV rolled around, the Ranma fanbase was considered quaint in comparison.

>>281341996
FACT

>>281325721 (OP)
spy family is overrated

>>281325721 (OP)
Go back, sweetie. You're part of the problem

>>281325721 (OP)
I am the true contrarian, I give everything a shot and then drop it if I find it boring. I started this season watching 40 shows and I am now down to 14.

>>281343302
is it? I think it's pretty fairly rated as being very front-loaded for storytelling, and having totally wasted an intetesting premise. All the hype for the series died when the first season wrapped up.

>>281325721 (OP)
>getting filtered by people you don’t know and will never meet
skill issue

>>281325721 (OP)
Lolis are dead therefore anime is dead

>>281330047
Yes, exactly. Moralfags are insufferable.

>hollywood is dead
>more and more normies are shifting to anime by the day
>even netflix put out a report that 50% of its entire users watch anime now
>most places around the world in the next five to ten years will have internet ID
I think you haven't seen anything yet, I believe between internet ID and anime getting normalized in the west thats when countries are going to wanna turn all this shit into PG west slop

>>281346457
You're an idiot.
The anime industry globally as well as just nationally is primed to enter a decline period. Its been a bubble for a few years now.
That netflix report is also GLOBAL totals- that's not just America, that's every country that HAS Netflix, and Japan is one of the biggest consumers of streaming services. They account for billions of hours of watchtime on anime alone.

Anyways, none of that matters since the bubble will burst by about 2028-30 and the only things that will survive are unending franchise works that air on morning TV and the strongest Kadokawa LN adaptations.

>>281325721 (OP)
If child no sex why she sex shaped?

>>281325748
she asked for it

no

>>281348572
she tricked you into it

>>281325721 (OP)
>has anyone on /a/ let it affect their views of anime?
No? I'm not retarded. If I didn't watch an anime it was because I wasn't interested. Like and don't really feel like trying to catch up when I'm already watching plenty of anime that season.

>>281325892
>refuse to gatekeep
Gatekeeping is fucking meme, good luck getting thousands of people to not participate in your hobby. Only shit like Blue Archive can just barely do that and that's because it largely panders to lolicons which is normie repellent. The fanbase its cultivated is only the way it is because normies won't touch the series regardless.

>>281342520
And why did they hate those series? due to the e-celebs fucking retard.
If you hate mainstream anime you are the tourist.

>>281325721 (OP)
>Is Anime Dead
lolis r dead = anime is dead

>>281339026
no u

>>281350838
>lolis r dead = anime is dead
More like lolis r dead = anime is saved

>>281325721 (OP)
>look at how contrarian I am. is it normal
No.

>>281325721 (OP)
>lust provoking image

normalfags will never financially support anime the way the hardcore audience does

>>281325721 (OP)
Watch dandadan but JJK is just a generic naruto-esque shounen, very similar to csm and demon slayer contemporaries

>>281352731
/a/ pirates anime

>>281353871
animain

I just don't like shonen or action pretty much at all, which mostly prevents me from running into the problem. But I have seen things I already love get new associations I don't like and I hate it. Like Abe shows or Azumanga Daioh. It's like with your clothes. Even if you don't want it to matter, if you associate something with a type of person you don't like, it starts looking ugly.

>>281325721 (OP)
>Frieren
>the most popular anime to ever exist
>Clevatess
>a billion times better than Frieren
>not even 0.01% as popular
OP is onto something.

>>281357061
what is

>>281352731
>normalfags will never financially support anime the way the hardcore audience does
Shonenspics?

>>281356661
same here

>>281325721 (OP)
I think it's the opposite. Anime has tripled and quadrupled down so hard on weirdest demographics that normies and even casual enjoyers have tuned out. I'm talking people who will watch only one or two shows each season.

>>281325721 (OP)
I've unironically started reading books again. Its tough because there is so many pozzed sci fi and fantasy now I literally scour the internet about the authors before I buy a book or I make sure it was written pre-2005

>>281325892
We try to gate keep but literally women and their BIOPIC LGBTQ literally have entire funded organizations to pressure our hobbies to change. The only thing we can do is give up on IP's and make our own until those pos sellout too.

>>281326671
based answer
>>281326732
We use the weapons we have
>>281327358
dumb answer

>>281326671
Being the disgusting smelly fat pedophile nobody wants to be around is not gatekeeping. It's the opposite of gatekeeping. You only empower the people who avoid you as being the more morally righteous side and therefore having the winning argument. If you didn't exist they would probably pay people to pretend to be like you to poison the well.

>>281325721 (OP)
It will be.
Eventually they'll flood the market.
You can still get ~decent stuff with reviews/recommendations. Its a matter of time till that stops working.

>>281359255
>implying it’s just the woke crowd
All normalfags hate lolicon and incest, the Texas Bill banning anime was bipartisan

>>281356661
This honest

>>281360405
The Texas bill is an obscenity bill, it by definition adds a new charge for a subset of content that was already covered by the state's existing obscenity bill. Now of course it could be abused beyond what the actual text of the law is, as Texas used to abuse their existing obscenity bill to bring bullshit charges as they did in the Castillo case.

>>281356661
>Abe shows
Which are…?

I don't avoid normalfag anime because normalfags like it specifically, it's just that pretty much every normalfag show I've watched has ended up being really bad, so I avoid normalfag shows because experience tells me they are bad. The only exception I can really think of is Spy x Family.

>>281361706
Oh Azumanga Daioh is another exception I just thought of but I don't think that really counts because it was wotakucore waaaay before normalfags picked it up 20 years later.