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Anonymous No.281448221 >>281448533 >>281448695 >>281448761 >>281449396 >>281449725 >>281449796 >>281452677 >>281454114 >>281457366 >>281460091
Final Gantz Afterparty
Who was your hero?
Did you enjoy the finale?
Anonymous No.281448280 >>281448397 >>281448686 >>281448817 >>281450502 >>281450808 >>281451078 >>281452067 >>281452435
How would you fix the final arc, anons?
Anonymous No.281448397
>>281448280
Delivering with the Catastrophe was always going to be complicated considering it was hyped since volume 10 and the enemies became more and more powerful with each mission. A common criticism is that the giants don't look as strong as Nuraihyon. But to be fair, Oku stopped giving a shit about Gantz when the mysteries start to reveal so the final arc can be considered as shitposting on manga form
Anonymous No.281448533
>>281448221 (OP)
Men: Fuck yeah! Epic male bonding! Femoids will never understand!
Also men: Ew, this guy broke the in between stall rule and is now peeing right next to me!
Anonymous No.281448686 >>281448777 >>281450986
>>281448280
Don't write out the vampires.
Decide how the audience is supposed to feel about the giant aliens before it starts.
Don't kill off Reika for no reason other than adding to Kurono 2's angst.
Make changes to the "Room of Truth" scene.
That's how I'd make it more enjoyable for me, at least. I don't know what everyone else wants, and I won't pretend I do.
Anonymous No.281448695 >>281449285
>>281448221 (OP)
Kurono, Kato, Kaze, Double Katana Guy and Virgin Manlet.
HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER!!!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FQJKgzyB3sA

>281448280
>fix
Just some minor changes mostly
Anonymous No.281448723 >>281448757 >>281448906 >>281449100 >>281449118 >>281449264 >>281449589 >>281449614 >>281450118 >>281450357 >>281452922 >>281455358 >>281456769 >>281456822 >>281457021 >>281457309 >>281460625
Post iconic pages.
Anonymous No.281448757
>>281448723
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/281297982/#281301141
Anonymous No.281448761
>>281448221 (OP)
>who was your hero
Kuronox2, Kaze, Kato and Reika. Also Sakurai, even if everyone else forgot about you, I won't.

>Did you enjoy the finale?
It was an ending and that's it.
Anonymous No.281448777 >>281448854 >>281448914 >>281449004
>>281448686
Reika was a pretty useless character besides her obsessive crush on Kurono. Cloning Kurono gave Reika something to do. To be fair, Oku is pretty bad at writing female characters. Obviously Reika was introduced for adding a pair of tits to the sausagefest. An all-male team would turn Gantz into a fujo manga
Anonymous No.281448817
>>281448280
>By not showing a retard alien god, just leave it a mystery
>the creator of the spheres having a better plan, or they decide to clone the best gansters
>aliens living on earth remain mystery, or at least their origin is other than just migrants.
Anonymous No.281448854 >>281448935 >>281452077
>>281448777
>forgetting how competent Reika was in missions
Anonymous No.281448906
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281448914 >>281448959
>>281448777
Reika ewas what kurono deserved ,but the aunthor was too much of a pussy to run with it.
Anonymous No.281448935 >>281449060 >>281449148
>>281448854
She was? Her biggest moment was saving K2 and she died. And in any case, that doesn't make Reika into a good character, not even a decent one.
Anonymous No.281448959 >>281449002
>>281448914
Reika was a tool for showing Kurono's development from his obsession with tits and validation but she became useless after Kurono chose Tae. Again, Oku can't write female characters or maybe he just doesn't care
Anonymous No.281449002
>>281448959
>Oku can't write female characters
he can't that''s why he should stick with what he does best, the fanservice. Tae is worst character than reika btw
Anonymous No.281449004 >>281449047 >>281452077
>>281448777
Are you fucking retarded or just a speedreader? You don't make a 100 pts twice, survive Italy as the team's top scorer or beat an alien a Kurono clone couldn't by being "useless". Reika was an /elite/ Gantzer.
Anonymous No.281449047
>>281449004
Fucking waifufags
Anonymous No.281449060
>>281448935
Reika is a good character because she showed a good balance between her virtues and flaws. And this is a an action series, of course a character that gets significant screen time being competent in a fight is important, you mouthbreather.
Anonymous No.281449100 >>281456769
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281449118 >>281457175
>>281448723
it all peaked here
Anonymous No.281449148 >>281449179
>>281448935
>putting Tae in a taxi to get her out of the mission area
>shooting the gun of the oni pretending to be Kei to test if it was actually him without risking actually hurting him
>realizing that Gantz can just clone people who are still alive instead of only bringing back the dead
>figures out to use the sword against the alien all the guns weren't working on, and only dies because it was a 1v1 but still managed to kill it
She's pretty competent. The only time she was actually useless was in the Dinosaur mission because she didn't know what to do yet, and most of the Osaka mission because she didn't actively participate until the end boss because the arc focused more on Kato, but she's still not useless when she actually does start doing things.
Anonymous No.281449159 >>281449356
>>281431732
LMAO, looking at the replies to this page, you can tell a bunch of Kengan and Bakifags were in the Gantz threads.
Anonymous No.281449179 >>281449298
>>281449148
Why are you seriously replying to that shitposter?
Anonymous No.281449264
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281449285 >>281449300 >>281449411 >>281449543 >>281451159 >>281451176 >>281452326 >>281457175 >>281457309
>>281448695
Anonymous No.281449298
>>281449179
Because sometimes it's hard for me to tell when somebody is actually retarded or just pretending to provoke people, especially when it's through text on a screen.
>inb4 autism accusations
Anonymous No.281449300
>>281449285
LMAO
Anonymous No.281449356 >>281449425
>>281449159
Would the bakigang be good gantzers or too much of fighting autists (no gun no sword use) to be effective ?
Anonymous No.281449396
>>281448221 (OP)
>Did you enjoy the finale?
I HATED it. It was rushed as fuck and felt like the manga was axed.
Anonymous No.281449411
>>281449285
Tae...
Anonymous No.281449425 >>281449543
>>281449356
They would either clean house or get super cocky and wiped out by a Kannon statue/Nura tier threat, no in between. Yujiro with a Gantz suit and Musashi with gantz katanas would be cosmic tier threat through.
Anonymous No.281449472 >>281449569 >>281449593 >>281449595 >>281450001 >>281452539 >>281458599 >>281459845
What you think of gantz e?
Anonymous No.281449543 >>281449658
>>281449285
>>281435594
>>281447480
I'm Die, thank you forever.

>>281449425
How Kaze would fare in the Bakiverse? with and without the suit?
Anonymous No.281449569
>>281449472
I much preffer Gantz:G myself.
Anonymous No.281449589
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281449593
>>281449472
I haven't actually read it aside from the first chapter, and some if the recent chapters that are set during the oni mission, so I don't actually have an opinion beyond "This is conceptually interesting, and the closest chance of the vampire plot actually done better even if it's still not likely"
And also it was responsible for me getting into Gantz to begin with because of GNR.
Anonymous No.281449595
>>281449472
It sucks tbqh, but I'm gald to see my boy Kurono and my girl Reika back in action.
Anonymous No.281449614
>>281448723
I wish these guys survived
Fuck vampires.
Anonymous No.281449658 >>281449794
>>281449543
>Kaze without a suit
Hard to say, but probably below people like Retsu, Doppo or pre Goujutsu Jack.

>Kaze w/suit
Probably makes it to Pickle/Kaku Kaioh tier.
Anonymous No.281449667
Somebody asked if the different teams get different equipment because the swords the Americans had apparently looked different, but I don't think they're any different from normal when Kei grabs one off the ground.
Anonymous No.281449725 >>281449763
>>281448221 (OP)
>>281435172
who the fuck was the guy talking to Kato?
Anonymous No.281449763 >>281449844 >>281451372
>>281449725
It looks like he has long hair, so... the guy who asked if he was Reika's boyfriend?
Anonymous No.281449794 >>281450105
>>281449658
You're tripping anon. Without the suit he would be a bum in Bakiverse but with the suit he would be Yujiro tier, and even higher in pure strenght alone.
The powerscales are too different.

More interesting would be Kaze properly scaled to Bakiverse as a character, I'm guessing Hanayama tier, probably having a role of strongest dojo breaker in japan before running into the Bakigang.
His signature move drawn by Itakagi would be awesome tough, imagine the pose and motions.
Anonymous No.281449796
>>281448221 (OP)
the last moment was too rushed, vampires dropped
Anonymous No.281449844 >>281450373
>>281449763
nah, that guy died fighting the final boss
Anonymous No.281450001
>>281449472
i loved the fact that the hard suit guys got a lot of screentime.
Anonymous No.281450105
>>281449794
>You're tripping anon. Without the suit he would be a bum in Bakiverse
Eh, when you say "bum" in Baki I imagine someone like Chiharu or Katou or Suedo. Obviously mid tier characters and above are blatantly superhuman and would be too much.

>but with the suit he would be Yujiro tier, and even higher in pure strenght alone. The powerscales are too different.
I dunno, anon. The best feats Kaze had with the suit are about on par with Pickle fighting and eating large dinosaurs barehanded, or Yujiro killing that Brontosaurus sized Elephant easily, but Yujiro has broken martial arts on top.
Anonymous No.281450118 >>281450224 >>281459907
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281450224 >>281450253
>>281450118
Was so distracted by the booba I didn't originally realize how jii-san's body seems too young looking for him.
Anonymous No.281450253
>>281450224
They brought them back at their prime
Anonymous No.281450357
>>281448723
Hanma maxxing.
Anonymous No.281450373 >>281451372
>>281449844
>nah, that guy died fighting the final boss
I'm pretty sure he actually survived. Unlike the other guys, blond hors didn't get a solid hit on him.
Anonymous No.281450502 >>281450661
>>281448280
i feel like 'gantzers around the world' could've been removed from italy and put in katastrophe, while italy and vampires could've been spent on the richfags. i'm not sure i see a use in having chester bennington find stuff out. some new big bad appearing at the end of dinos seems right, having them tied to richfags somehow rather than nanomachines seems tighter. maybe stick in something explicit about izumi's memory loss here too to contrast against kurono. if izumi loves fighting so much why did he give up? richfags forcing him out because (richfag things) would be good. instead of getting a fat disabled woman that says numbers.
Anonymous No.281450661 >>281450964
>>281450502
Izumi being a tragic hero who used to be like kurono but got mindbroken from ptsd and not having any relations to fall back on after he quit gantz works a lot better, tying everything to richfags is retarded, making the world smaller is not indicative of good writing
Anonymous No.281450808
>>281448280
The last arc needs the characters to have clearer goals that align the themes Oku wanted to explore, the main ones being :
> The brutality of total war (which he does very well at the start of the arc)
> The morality of genocide : which by humanizing the aliens through Tae's survival (big fail). Cherry is much better conduit for this arc.
> The sadism of "civilized" species : with K2 and his team's fight. He failed at that since those fights lacked the tension that the missions had.
> An exploration of extreme nihilism with the room of truth : needs to be set up much earlier as a destination for the characters. the dialogue needs to be much better.
Other things need to fixed as well, like K2's sudden change, the powers and designs of some enemies, and the no epilogue ending. imo all the characters we lost along the way should have be revived.
I wrote something here >>281435224
>>281435676 . Apparently it's self-serving fanfic. but that's how I cope.
Anonymous No.281450964
>>281450661
i don't think what you said about izumi occurred.
it's true maybe it's too many things tied to richfags. repeating things or showing the same things multiple ways is what constitutes good writing though i think. vampires and italy being connected by ending as "eh, whatever" seems like they could be improved by having them say something specific together, even if it's not richfags.
Anonymous No.281450986 >>281451053
>>281448686
I feel that the author thought of Kurono 2 as being a different character and not as being literally Kurono. By the end, K1 gets to be the hero that the whole world celebrates while K2 lost his soulmate on a stupid fit and commits suicide a few hours later. K1 should have been used to explore other plot points, like the richfags as some have pointed in this thread. Maybe that would also be the opportunity to use the vampires since they have beef with gantz.
Anonymous No.281451023
Remove the vampires
Remove the catastrophe arc and make everyone die in Italy and end the manga without explaining the black balls
Now gantz is a 10/10
Anonymous No.281451053 >>281451186 >>281451247 >>281451284 >>281451345
>>281450986
How could K2 manipulate the God aliens to keep Reika(and himself) alive?
Anonymous No.281451078 >>281452342 >>281452358 >>281452564
>>281448280
Make the giants look cool instead of horse faced humans
Get rid of the god shit
Either erase Kei's ugly girlfriend completely and make Reika the final girl, OR make the fugly plain bitch hot
Actually flesh out the vampires and explain that shit cuz anomalous nanomachines doesn't cut it
Make Kato's character more than just "I have to get back to my brother!!"
After the giants are defeated gimme a good plot twist where Gantz is the villain all along and their war with the giants was something they started
Anonymous No.281451159
>>281449285
LMAO
Best post ever.
Anonymous No.281451176
>>281449285
Wonderful, I remember this from a lot of time ago.
Anonymous No.281451186 >>281451983
>>281451053
>You say you are so omnipotent, but I bet these 3 girls are just some sort of fakes that will expire way earlier than real human being. I also bet that you can't teleport us (me and the 3 girls (also wiping kishimotos memory)) on a distant peaceful planet to terraform it and populate it. I bet these clones are infertile and couldn't manage being constantly impregnated by me. Haha
Anonymous No.281451247
>>281451053
Well, he could start with
>So are your lives any more significant than ours?
and see if it gets him anywhere. Sure, they might just be cunts and blow him up for being rude, but if they're self-aware enough to realize that doing that might actually make it seem like they DO care about human opinions since they bothered to take offense to a "no u" comeback, then there might be an opportunity to get Reika back.
But that all requires him to think of that instead of lashing out physically, and for them to not be petty enough to execute him for his sass, which they didn't do with anybody else, but I'm not sure any of their whining about being disappointed by told they're worthless was as annoying as actually being called out on the hypocrisy of calling humans arrogant for thinking they're special while obviously acting all pretentious and above everything.
Anonymous No.281451266 >>281451284
K2 should still die imo. The part about reincarnation should be pruned. It introduces more inconsistencies than anything else. The only way to have a happy ending for K2 and Reika is to go for a mass respawn. That could be done by amusing the god aliens (everyone goes full retard and point their guns at them, inspired by K2's speech) or by prostrating to them like the gods they wish to be. It would be depend on the lore you'd want Gantz to have. I think you get the gist of it. Ideally,K2 and Reika should have a scene in the epilogue.
Anonymous No.281451284
>>281451266
meant to answer >>281451053
Anonymous No.281451287
In one of the initial chapter of the manga, one of the translator notes mentioned a best-selling book written by a japanese actor or comedian who kept a diary during a months-long period of televised isolation. Has anyone been able to find it? I haven't, and I'd love to read it.
Anonymous No.281451345 >>281452297
only absolute retards who know nothing about Oku think >>281451053 was a cockblock ending.

Reika will make love with shota Kurono and then he'll impregnate his own mother and sister (Kishimoto) and make them his women. That's literally why he pointed that specific country.
Anonymous No.281451372 >>281451983
>>281449763
>>281450373
It makes sense that he's the only one who that could be, but the way he said it made it seem like he hasn't seen him in a while. Katou was there with him the entire arc.
Anonymous No.281451983
>>281451186
>K2 establishing a human colony in some outpost world full of wilderness along Reika, Sei and Kishimoto.
Someone pitch this idea to Oku for an official spinoff. If he says no he just hates money.

>>281451372
It could just be that he didn't expect Kato to survive after trying to clash with thw giant edgelord head on.
Anonymous No.281452054
Funniest character? For me it's Inaba. Wish he stuck to the end.
Anonymous No.281452067
>>281448280
Skip the Italy arc and have the Gantzers of the world unite for the first time in Katastrophe. Oji-san and Inaba can die in Katastrophe instead.
This also makes the K2 shit less morally egregious on Reika's part.
Vampires actually contribute in Katastrophe. They can live or die. I don't care.
Tae can serve largely the same purpose, but stop dragging her around in ways that require plot armor. Just have her be in less immediate danger, but still in general danger by nature of being around the horse ayys. Keep her in the fishbowl, and then the kid takes her for a walk and Kurono and Fura sees her there. And Nishi doesn't shoot her.
Have Sephiroth's brother be more important, so that the final fight of the whole series doesn't feel like it was prompted by Kurono killing a mook.
Either remove the room of truth, or change it beyond recognition.
In general, just cut a lot of the fat. This isn't a major story change, but the plot should just move faster.
Anonymous No.281452077
>>281448854
>>281449004
Useless as a character, not useless as a person.
Anonymous No.281452285
281452077
Fuck off already, you faggot. You don't even know what you're talking about, you clearly didn't read the manga.
Anonymous No.281452297
>>281451345
>shota Kurono
Reika and Kishimoto better hope Lara Croft doesn't respawn near their neighborhood, then.
Anonymous No.281452326
>>281449285
best post on /a/ right now
Anonymous No.281452342
>>281451078
>Get rid of the god shit
filtered
Anonymous No.281452358
>>281451078
>Get rid of the god shit
That was never going to happen. You guys don't seem to get that was probably the single most important scene in the final arc to Oku.
Anonymous No.281452435 >>281452573 >>281452654
>>281448280
Give Kei and Tae have more varying dialogue, explore the horse ayy ship through more characters. Give Sakurai a good ending because he deserves one.

Set up the horses to be more sympathetic, instead of the gruesome feeding scenes have them process the humans to be unrecognizable for example and make the actions more distinguished by their military and civilians, the biebercut sociopaths can stay. Make the warehouse scene 90% handdrawn. Remove 2rono's OOC crashout, Reika can still die as the tragic heroine but give the clone a chance to build his life in an epilogue scene or whatever. I kind of liked the room of truth but maybe make the god ayys more enigmatic instead of petty assholes, but eh Kato's banter was pretty good desu. Inaba should"ve survived and taken place of Izumi and his lovechild. He would've been a great rep for Oji-san and had some great character development. On that note some scene or mention on what the hell happened to italy would've been appreciated, maybe even have the statues fight back along with the vamps for kino enemy of my enemy is my friend scenes.

The ending needed an epilogue with more closure for the rest of the cast for sure.
Anonymous No.281452478
Fuck Mary, Fuck Reika, Fuck Anzu, Fuck, Kishimoto, Fuck Sadako, Fuck Kei (female)
Anonymous No.281452539
>>281449472
Curious to find out how the timeline will deviate from here.
Anonymous No.281452564
>>281451078
Gay.
Anonymous No.281452573
>>281452435
Oh and remove Nishi, revive Izumi instead.
Anonymous No.281452654 >>281452774
>>281452435
>Remove 2rono's OOC crashout, Reika can still die as the tragic heroine but give the clone a chance to build his life in an epilogue scene or whatever.
What would be the point of killing off Reika without Kurono's crashout? Oku had him act out so he could 1. Witness Reika getting killed because of his recklessness and make his big love declaration for her and 2. Have a reason to attack the alien gods in righteous indignation for attempting to diminish the value of her and Kurono's other loved one's lives. You have to place yourself in the writer's shoes, what he clearly wanted to get at in the end was that scene where (a) Kurono, the embodiment of the human spirit in this manga, challenged those godlike aliens, who in turn represent the Universe's cold and uncaring nature, but he figured killing off the MC for good would have been two much of a downer even for this manga and even with the reincarnation explanation, so he decided to have K2 take that role instead. Maybe he could've achieved a similar effect by not having Reika die in the warehouse arena, and have them both her and K2 die while trying to attack the alien gods together, although I personally think keeping K2 and Reika alive at the same time as K1 and Tae is perfectly compatible with the message of the manga about these copied people's life still having value and meaning.
Anonymous No.281452677
>>281448221 (OP)
Go are we going for the Gantz E reading?
Anyway, I kinda disliked the final saga for the whole "aliens are like us let's not kill them".
While the tae chan screaming and all that subplot about the garbage dump was fine on re-read, while on monthly reading it was painful as fuck.
Anonymous No.281452774 >>281453111
>>281452654
>What would be the point of killing off Reika without Kurono's crashout
I think the setup was dumb and incredibly ooc for Kurono, have Reika dying heroically like saving his life from the spore ayys (make them a toxin instead and Reika sucks it out of him uncomfortably), would achieve the same thing without butchering the characters. However I always thought the truth room EXIT was convenient writing and genuinely wanted to see a clone carving out his own life with dignity. It would suit the theming more imo that people aren't mere data but of course keep the reincarnation explanation by the ayys.
Anonymous No.281452903 >>281460012
Young Jump manga in general is just a way to entertain stupid middle schoolers and get them pumping dopamine week after week after week.
And then in the second half, it gets fucked up.
But I think that's okay.
Anonymous No.281452922
>>281448723
the one when Izumi cuts the train in half
Anonymous No.281453111 >>281453364
>>281452774
>I always thought the truth room EXIT was convenient writing
It may seem that way but like I said, it's likely the single most important plot point in the entire invasion arc to Oku. We were always going to see it, and they would always kill someone in the cast to prove their point, even if it wasn't Kurono..

>and genuinely wanted to see a clone carving out his own life with dignity.
You have been seeing that the entire series, to be fair. Any difference between K1 and K2 or any of the other Gantzers that are already copies themselves is mostly splitting hairs.
Anonymous No.281453364 >>281453855
>>281453111
>Any difference between K1 and K2 or any of the other Gantzers that are already copies themselves
This is actually ambiguous now that souls are confirmed. It's more likely that Kurono who died in the vampires arc is the same who ressed after due to relationship rule. Oku goes into it more with Tae and Kurono regaining their lost memories but is sadly another dropped plotpoint after Kei dies due to dropping the vampires subplot and his brother like hot rocks.
Anonymous No.281453855 >>281454107
>>281453364
You are making a lot of assumptions about how souls work. The fact that Kishimoto got cloned when her soul was still on earth already breaks this whole system. K2 started to act ooc just so he could have a dramatic scene with Reika, then die shortly later so there's only one kurono left at the end of the story. That's pretty much it.
Anonymous No.281454107 >>281456673
>>281453855
If souls are clones with the body, why does Tae regain her memories with Kurono and Kurono hers and memories of being in Gantz? As we understand memory wipes aren't a thing and Gantz just loads a backup. I'm not dismissing your theory, and it's quite consistent until this point, but the memories thing is something clearly presented in the story and isn't explained without theorizing how Gantz creates backups. Also assuming clones, it creates an issue with perpetual relationships. It's more sensible the same soul migrates after resurrection otherwise Kato loses association with his brother, and Kei loses his with Tae which is thematically inconsistent to the Kata arc...
Anonymous No.281454114
>>281448221 (OP)
The whole Katastrophe arc was a letdown from previous arcs and the final chapters were especially disjointed, though it was already showing in Osaka with Oku randomly forgetting beards. Kurono twice, somehow, teleported with the Gantz bike from orbit to earth without being teleported, and lived to tell the tale. Couldn't Oku have bothered for a page of re-entry? And that's just the smallest of things. What really pisses me off is the final chapter basically has zero closure, Kei and Kato somehow drift to shore and their respective motivations for survival arrive, still in what they wore 2(?) days ago. Wasn't the neiigh spaceship hurtling down too? Was everyone revived since the balls worked again? How about a little epilogue to so we can see Takeshi get a fightnut mom, Kei becoming involuntary prime minister and Kato banging both his wives?
Anonymous No.281455358
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281456135 >>281456353 >>281456399 >>281462969
Is shitting on Katastrophe one of those "retarded but accepted by the majority" points that just becomes the norm?

Because I can understand the hate for the arc if all you got in a week was a whole chapter of "Kei-Chaaaaan!" or bad scans that made the CGI impossible to see.
But reading it in a whole sitting, I seriously, for the live of me can't see what's so dreadfully terrible with it. It's not in ANY form as bad as AOT ending but you still have anons comparing those.

It was fucking awesome, and yes, it was, if you really like Gantz how can you hate this last arc? It has everything that's good about Gantz in it. Seriously do you really hate this arc or just hoped in the bandwagon back then?
Anonymous No.281456260 >>281456375
Was host vampire killed?
I honestly forgot what happened to him
Anonymous No.281456353
>>281456135
I really liked the mission setting, random locations, random enemies, unforseeable complications
It's like when the witcher books change from fantasy-western-grimm brothers parody into regular fantasy plot in the later books, it's still pretty good but also not at all what I liked in the earlier chapters
Anonymous No.281456375 >>281456457
>>281456260
He's shown in one of the last chapters you absolute retard, do you actually read your comics or just look at the speech bubbles
Anonymous No.281456399
>>281456135
Why did he drop a gold ingot on my plate? I can't eat that.
Anonymous No.281456457
>>281456375
Apparently yes because I honestly cant recall his fate.
I was half expecting someone to say he died in the Italy massacre and I just forgot
Anonymous No.281456673 >>281461458
>>281454107
Kurono gains back his memories right before dying to the vampires. In my opinion, gantz is able to put a softblock on someone's memories, but he is not able to delete them altogether. Gantz is probably scanning every without a break. When he resurrects someone without their memories, it's because he locks those away. This what makes the most sense...

To fix this system, Oku could have used a throne of heroes like system from fate/stay night. The soul is unique in an another dimension. Each time you create a body, you copy the original soul. Souls keep relationships with other souls, but those relationships can be lost after many reincarnations if the reincarnations drift apart. Once a relationship is promoted to soul-buddy after many life times of love or friendship, they will remain tied forever. For Kurono that would be Reika, Tae, and Kato. The ones that could progress to soul buddies would be the old man, Lara, and Izumi. The elephant in the room remains the content of the soul.
Anonymous No.281456769 >>281457309
>>281448723
Vampires were pointless filler alright, but high quality filler at that
>>281449100
Possible new banner
Anonymous No.281456822 >>281458568
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281456939
I enjoyed the final arc more now than the first time but thats because I already knew what to except.
Gantz has a lot of flaws but even those flaws just add to the absurdity and enjoyment of the series, apart from 2 which always bug me.

The first is how Izumi is handled. Felt like he was just written out of the story in rush when up until that point he had been Kurono's main antagonist and a strong driving force in the plot.
The second is the sudden cut to black at the end. A story of Gantz's scope really needed one or a few more chapters to see the consequences of what just happened.
What happens to Kei and Kato? And the rest of the Gantz player?How does humanity react to this massive event?

Despite this I still love this manga, its one of the craziest and most unhinged pieces of media i've ever experienced and has surprisingly good character writing, especially Kurono, absolutely goated protagonist.

There's other media tha share the same genre as Gantz but there's nothing quite like it. Its very special.
Anonymous No.281456941 >>281457631
I will be honest the only thing i remember about Reika was that some dude was fucking her but then she transformed and he was actually fucking some alien tranny
Anonymous No.281457021 >>281457175
>>281448723
Anonymous No.281457175 >>281457631
I effortposted before. so one more thingy is that I really was charmed by Oku's ability to write "of the people", like NPC public people chiming in throughout the manga. Relatable, sometimes in an uncomfortable or even disappointing way
>>281449118
Izumi was such a trip of a villain character
>>281449285
FUCKING LOLOLOL
>>281457021
these two shouldn't have jobbed they were really cool
Anonymous No.281457309
>>281456769
>says he doesn't care
>literally never leaves her side until the end of the manga

>>281449285
cracked me up

>>281448723
Legendary
Anonymous No.281457366 >>281457401 >>281457691
>>281448221 (OP)
yall need to read thunder 3
Anonymous No.281457401 >>281457633
>>281457366
We get it. It's alright so far, but there is barely anything to read and it lacks some of the gantz stuff. And yes that includes tiddies
Anonymous No.281457631
>>281457175
Everyone always focus on the nudes and gore, but the other thing completely uncensored in this story was the human condition (even if, as you say, in a mostly pessimistic fashion), and i always loved that from this manga.
Of course, there are good people around, but most of the time we are inadvertently surrounded by layers and layers of apathy, cynicism and violence (i.e. we're assholes), so when faced with weird or extraordinary situations we usually won't believe it, think it's a hoax of some kind, or adapt to the situation (either fight or running like hell) while not giving a single shit for other people. It shouldn't, but it happens

>>281456941
>some dude
Good ol' Inaba strikes again, i'll miss that guy
Anonymous No.281457633
>>281457401
theres already 5 volumes fully translated,

mangadex isn't the only site for scanlations
Anonymous No.281457691 >>281457890
>>281457366
i was thinking the comments about you being an immature narcissist scizo were overblown but thanks to this post in particular now i don't. what a fucking plague.
Anonymous No.281457890
>>281457691
>he now made his own thread to talk about said manga
At least now his autism is contained somewhere else
Anonymous No.281458157 >>281458330 >>281458517 >>281460385 >>281460438 >>281460438
I really liked Gantz, but there are some inconsistencies and things I wish Oku addressed better:

1.The alien from the Room of Truth says aliens have been migrating to earth for the last 30 years, but the events of Gantz E take please waaaay back in the past. is Gantz E taking place in the past from another dimension or something?
2.Does that means the Gantz balls exists in other dimensions and in any timelines?.
3.Didn't like the answers from the Room of Truth alien to questions people made. I mean "It way it is", come on he could've come up with something better.
4.Where do aliens go when they get teleported by the "Y" gun?
5.It kinda bothered me how the average japanese person in Gantz reacted when aliens started to spread propaganda labeling "gantz" soldiers like terrorist. I mean is he implying the average japanese person is this gullible / retarded? I mean the aliens attacked out of the blue and murderered people left and right and the first thing they do is assume "lol terrorist fault"
6. Some of the aliens in the final arc (not the horses) have very humanoid features / hands. I feel like Oku could've done better.
7.Are you telling me this super rich german guy got to manufacture and distribute the balls around the world and not a single a nation took advantage of this super advanced technology?
8.Where the fuck did they even build and hide the super giant mechas?
9.Through the series aliens corpses are left and yet the only arc were people start becoming aware of the "possible" existence of aliens is the Osaka arc.
10. What are the vampires exactly? are they aliens/mutants or actual mythological/supernatural creatures in the Gantz universe ?
11.CNN and BBC already interviewed the german guy and you're telling me no one bothered into doing fact checking or research? Come on,
12. He should've release a book explaining this kind stuff.
I have so many questions but those are the ones that bother me the most.
Anonymous No.281458330 >>281458444
>>281458157
holy fuck he's still at it
tl;dr, nobody cares about your ideas
Anonymous No.281458444
>>281458330
Seems like you have something with another anon. Anyways those are my questions, if don't like them you can hide my post.
Anonymous No.281458517
>>281458157
The simple answer is that Oku didn't think of Gantz E more than a decade ago, but it is weird that he chose only 30 years ago.
And Gantz E breaks all of it anyway since it technically allows timetravel which means they could prevent the invasion to begin with unless this is now the newest timeline.
Anonymous No.281458568
>>281456822
Reikass is forever.
Anonymous No.281458599 >>281458889
>>281449472
reika dinosaur
Anonymous No.281458613 >>281458654
What happened to giant alien race in the end?
Anonymous No.281458654 >>281458669
>>281458613
Anonymous No.281458669
>>281458654
Their ship self destructed in space
Anonymous No.281458731 >>281458932 >>281461850 >>281461891
I missed the storytime because I’m very busy with life right now but I just came here to say this is one of my top 5, and a very special manga to me. I hope those who are new enjoyed it and those who have read it before were able to rekindle some of that joy they felt on their own first read. Can we have an Usugoi storytime next? I’d be so stoked to read Air Poker with you guys..
Anonymous No.281458889 >>281459298
>>281458599
Giant cannibal Reika>Reikasaurus.
Anonymous No.281458932 >>281459087
>>281458731
>Usogi
That'd be great anon, but can it wait until the current Getter Robo storytime is over? I don't wanna spend all day here if I can help it.
Anonymous No.281459063
Reika cover poster doko
Anonymous No.281459087
>>281458932
If you’re offering to do it then please do and take all the time you need until you can. As long as it happens, I’d be so grateful for that. There’s just so many spectacular moments in Usugoi, even in the early stages.
Always wanted to get into getter robo
Anonymous No.281459298 >>281459532
>>281458889
Now give her a penis.
Anonymous No.281459532 >>281459641
>>281459298
I'll give Reika a penis inside her vagina. My penis.
Anonymous No.281459641
>>281459532
You know that's not what I meant.
Anonymous No.281459845
>>281449472
The Buddah kid is a terrible character. And the whole plot of revenge against the samurai doing tsujigiri was totally unsatisfactory. Someone suggested Thunder3 on the thread and I find it more interesting.
Anonymous No.281459907 >>281460045
>>281450118
Lara confirmed as the biggest tits in the manga.
Anonymous No.281459949
gantz never dies >>281459351
Anonymous No.281460012 >>281460045
>>281452903
>is just a way to entertain stupid middle schoolers
More like her highschools seniors and college freshmen. It has a 17+ age requirement to buy it.
Anonymous No.281460045
>>281459907
Are they actually that much bigger than Reika's?
I can't tell just by looking, I'd need somebody to actually measure them.
>>281460012
Kei was 15 at the start and he bought one.
Anonymous No.281460091
>>281448221 (OP)
Is this worth reading? Looks silly
Anonymous No.281460385
>>281458157
Some questions might be better not answered and up to imagination,some are just oku incosnsitency or actual plotholes

>1.The alien from the Room of Truth says aliens have been migrating to earth for the last 30 years, but the events of Gantz E take please waaaay back in the past. is Gantz E taking place in the past from another dimension or something?
My headcanon is that people managed to further enhance gantz technology and started sending stuff to the past ,the aliens in the past are simply copies that gantz made and is trying to further enahnce psychis powers in humanity
>3.Didn't like the answers from the Room of Truth alien to questions people made. I mean "It way it is", come on he could've come up with something better.
Sometimes answers are just that if you want deeper answers or more complete you need to also give a better question
>5.It kinda bothered me how the average japanese person in Gantz reacted when aliens started to spread propaganda labeling "gantz" soldiers like terrorist. I mean is he implying the average japanese person is this gullible / retarded? I mean the aliens attacked out of the blue and murderered people left and right and the first thing they do is assume "lol terrorist fault"
Irl people would 100% behave like that anon...
Anonymous No.281460438
>>281458157
>>281458157
>1
He's reffering only to the migrants he doesn't say there can't be other aliens from before.
>2
Probably
>3
Maybe the alien knew that the human couldn't comprehend or wouldn't accept a more elaborated answer
>4
Probably stored as data
>5
Yes, a "person" is intelligent, "people" are retarded.
>6
I like them.
>7
They probably did, there were plenty of rich assholes involved, some are definitely involved directly with governments, the German dude mentioned politicians, also he's the owner of the tech and could easily fuck over any nation that got too uppity. Many interests involved, it's not that simple.
>8
Build it part by part in a secluded place then store it as data
>9
Yes
>10
Definetely aliens. Seems that Aliens inspired myths acrros the eras of Gantz.
>11
I doubt anyone has "told" you that
>12
Nah, let people speculate.
Anonymous No.281460625
>>281448723
a classic
Anonymous No.281461458
>>281456673
Izumi and Panda were lovers in another life!
Anonymous No.281461850 >>281461891
>>281458731
yo, I read Usogui last year and it totally rocked my world. Makes me wanna put it all on one gamble!!!!
jk I think there was an usogui recently (within 5 years) on archives just found this
>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/233948178/#q233948178
Anonymous No.281461891
>>281461850
>>281458731
>"On my first read these were the pages that finally solidified for me that this was the best gambling manga I was ever going to read. In other series you'll only have characters trying and failing to cheat and losing because of it, or using social engineering to swing a gamble in your favor. Here it's just four lunatics torturing their minds and bodies, intellect vs intellect. It makes literal the psuedo-fighting feel of gambles in other series by having martial arts deathmatches that run parallel to the games. The art continuously improves, and author-san never gets lazy or half-asses anything. AND, most importantly, all the twists are set up and foreshadowed, laid out for you on a subsequent read. It's a series that rewards you for paying attention and noticing little details. You, along with Kaji, learn to become more like Baku as the series goes on.
AAAAAHHH I'M GOOMBLING"
an usogui endorsement from the storytime in 2022 I liked and wanted to repost
Anonymous No.281462969
>>281456135
It's not horrible but there is so much filler and so many dropped plotpoints and plotholes that it is clearly a significant step down from all of the previous arcs.