Thread 281631541

Someone call the cops, this black lady just stole the whole show

>>281631541 (OP)
I was initially a little surprised she wasn't in the prison but I guess with only 7 a team they decided they wanted to give all 3 of their background bitch designs a chance

was amazing seeing the backshot boys back so soon

>>281631571
I think it was the right call to not put her in the prison, the show had great development for ''the main cast''

>>281631598
Nice

>>281631541 (OP)
>>281631600
>implying they would waste on unique design
On contrary, i'm surprise Guy Jin is recurring character

>>281631663
I felt like he worked perfectly the card game episode. But really annoying in the mandalorian episode.

>>281631541 (OP)
Niggerlicious or divine intellect?

>>281631663
Guy Jin and Gunsmith Bitch are related to eachother in some way
Either secret villains or they work together contrabanding secret weapons or stuff like that

>>281631541 (OP)
That's a really ugly character.

>>281631541 (OP)
silly sperg

>>281631554
FPBP

>>281631554
nigga stole my heart

I'm surprised Brief came out of that road trip without anything gay happening to him

>>281631663
>i'm surprise Guy Jin is recurring character
This stupid prick with his punchable face should've only been a thing in episode 2. He's ruining the show.

>>281632122
saving*

GOD i wish i had saved that gigachad Guy Jin pic anon made

Boys trip was absolutely kino and that ending with the girls coming because they needed them was so good

>>281632083
Almot, Garter did say kiss me. Really makes me forget all the gay innuendo they had together in the first show.

imagine if Stocking fell for Guy Jin
that would be hilarious haha

>>281631541 (OP)
Shills btfo again

But anon
He was mean for Gajin's self-insert
Get it
GUYJIN
hehehehe

>>281632197
I wouldnt be surprised, Stocking is a weaboo. Maybe if GJ is a disgusting sadist on the down low

>>281632260
Is that a stand

>>281631541 (OP)
Her cute lisp is so freakin adorable

>>281631598
How the fuck

>>281632306
she sounds extra dorky in japanese though.

>>281631598
blackface

>>281632324
Interest piqued

>>281632324
She's literally Bocchi the cock in japanese
Not him but the dub adding a lisp was a genius move, it's a shame japs didnt do it too

>>281632347
That girl is actually brown, not that i give a fuck though lmao

>>281631663
this mf is in the intro
He's that relevant, apparently

>>281631541 (OP)
>Panty & Stocking
This is the shittiest thing Trigger decided to animate. Absolute abomination.

More like Super GAY Jin

>>281632442
still ban evading, huh?

anyone fancy a peepsi? i've got a few spare

>>281632442
Ban evading schizo with got you. Your hate is not welcome here.

>>281632445
This. He's such a stupid and aggravating character.

How big are they?

>>281632470
>>281632496
wtf is this? i haven't even received a ban in the first place

>>281632510
Above average, smaller than Brief's

>>281632365
>>281632369
I prefer the dub but these japanese actors come up with all the funny meme vocalizations.

>dedicating half an episode to referencing some shitty adam sandler movie no one watched
for what purpose

>>281632567
you don't need to watch the movie to enjoy it. I thought it was funny as hell.

>>281632442
Imaishit's Pissing and Shitting with Farterbelt

>>281632567
>no one watched
Not even zoomer, you're like xoomer
>for what purpose
To make the girls bond, to show there are things Panty cares more than sex

>>281632567
>adam sandler movie
Jesus christ, I am so glad I haven't watched the episode

This episode was good. I dont hang out in the initial panty and stocking threads cause its right in the middle of work and also that schizo is here.

I liked seeing them all get pussywhipped and be good bros.

>>281632496
>with got you.
ESL

Bros.... stocking is a virgin.

Glad that Chuck got some screentime this episode!

>>281631541 (OP)
Her episode sucked, but it wasn't as bad as this week's.

>>281632624
I am using my phone to post, stupid schizo fucking ban evading hater

>>281632583
lol

>>281631554
>black

>tfw ywn get to tonguebath kneesock's kneesocks clean
life is too cruel

>>281632254
pregnet stocking

>>281632609
The episode was BAD, do not waste your time with it.

>latinx woke up to shit the thread
I'm going to sleep, kino episode especially the boys trip. Panty x Brief is endgame confirmed for the slow watchers
>>281632672
She's not black nor tanned, she's brown

Bitch or fuck?
Fuck or bitch?

well at least we got to see the demon sisters being super cute, the ep wasn't all bad

>>281632695
Tan =/= tanned

This was one of the most well animated episodes in the whole series
Yoshinari is so based

after planting your bitches, how long do they take to grow before you can harvest them?

lousy episode

>>281632532
No thanks Im done with this anime on ep 5 before it turned gay af. I suggest you heteros drop it as me

>>281632771
A therefore A therefore

>>281632729
Scanty's reaction to nearly getting punched was really adorable.

>>281632778
>This was one of the most well animated episodes in the whole series
And yet it's still sub par compared to standard Japanese animation in seasonal anime. They didn't animate the shadows and there is barely any detail. This is cheap compared to the animation in seasonal anime.

>>281632778
Hideous and lazy animation.

>>281632672
Even her tanned parts are brown. She's a nigga anon.

The angel bros are way more chill than I expected them to be after todays episode. Makes me think if we ever get demon brothers they'll be mean as fuck to fit the 'traditional' image of demons in contrast.

>smooth as a barbie doll
how were they pissing with no cock

>>281632867
Not every brownish skin character is subsaharan African you mind poisoned twitterfag

>>281632672
Yaas! The great Dandadan + PSG alliance formed

>>281632648
True, this one bores more than anything else, and being boring is the worst thing a TV show can be.

>>281632787
Legally, you're only supposed to harvest the ones other people plant, and only after eighteen years.

>>281632787
I really really hope Yoh did more episodes this season

>>281632935
Yoruichi is also black, I'm sorry you had to find out this way

panty deserves to burn in hell forever for doing this

>>281631598
hot

>>281632197
guy jin is a child
also fucking wild they got away with loli bitch panty in the horror segment

>>281632934
angel magic

they seem extremely comfortable rocking out with their cocks out
i wonder if that cherub gig of theirs made them not care about nudity at all

>>281633163
look at the hips on pink boy woo la la ~ ~

>>281632729
>still no sex scene between scanty and kneesocks
tragic

>>281631541 (OP)
>>281631598
>>281632672
FYI she is not tanned, the lighter part is her clothing. Confirmed by Trigger staff yesterday live. And she is aligned with 3rd third-party force outside Heaven and Hell.

Polyester or Polyurethane for you?

>>281632778
agreed, still need a webm of stocking twirling tho

>>281633210
>no ass twunks
might as well be shot dead

>>281632935
cope faggot kek

>>281632672
>>281633276
>>281633068
>>281632867
/a/ is practically twitter at this point

yes she's ethnically dark skinned and not ganguro or whatever, no it doesn't fucking matter what exact race she is

>>281633200
were they specifically asked for her exact ethnicity by some autist?

>>281633200
>Authority fallacy

>>281633349
>/a/ is practically twitter at this point
*nu-/a/

Don't conflate neoPSG corposhill generals with /a/. Even shonenslop generals have slightly more /a/ posters than these.

>>281633391
authorial intent matters

>>281631571
unfortunately, and thats something all fans have to accept moving forward, are two things.

1.- Trigger sometimes reserves unique or extremely striking female characters as npc's or 'plot devices', they have done it before with Lalaco in Space Patrol Luluco. she just appeared for one ep. and then in another in the final stretch. its very likely this is gonna be the case with gunbitch despite her having good story potential with the relationship she has with Brief of all people.

2.- even if thats not the case (you can tell me i'm full of shit about point 1 all you want...), she is literally a goddess in story, she's not even an angel like P&S, her being omniscient and omnipresent makes her way too OP compared to all characters, meaning she cant be just used in stories nillywilly.

its more than obvious that MAYBE she will get one ep, and even then she wont have the expected characterization unlike the Gaygels or Uncle Ramie.

the only moment she surely will have a role would be the final battle, probably selling the heroes the ultimate weapon that not only will save the day, but will ensure that the angels still get stuck on earth... AGAIN because they spent all their saved Heaven coins... AGAIN.

>>281632677
It feels that the staffers this episode really like the Demon Sisters. I can't put my finger on the how, but they looked a lot cuter/sexier overall. Maybe it was the small ways they were animated?

>>281633425
they deserve it

>>281632778
I wonder if a cut of this exists without the bitch-o-meter intercuts because the whole sequence is great.

>>281633425
i mean, despite being demons, they are legitimately nicer girls overall compared to the angels. so for them, giving cuter vibes is easier.

>>281633424
I think we'll be seeing geek girl more often than gunbitch, since geek girl has already been in two episodes now.

>>281633445
They do. They're cute. Cute!

>scanty just wanted a cat
>>281633638
they really are fucking adorable

It's so sad that this is the best anime of 2025.

>>281633425
considering how much modern writers hate god, Im not surprised

>>281633210
Ever since the first trailer I liked Polyurethane the most but Polyester is really growing on me. Then again just like the Anarchy sisters and the Demon sisters, I end up loving both even if I have a favorite.

Can Gunbitch (or humans for that matter) even use angel weapons? She smiths them but I wonder if she can even shoot them.

Cute

>>281633210
They're literally the same character, there's no difference between them personality wise.

>>281633210
I still don't know which is which. Don't tell me. I won't remember.

>>281633537
Now that you mention it now I want a webm of just the bitch-o-meter going overload, would make for a good reaction image me thinks.

>>281633210
>>281633689
I feel like Polyester and Polyurethane suffer from something Scanty and Kneesocks kinda suffer from which is that unlike Panty and Stocking who are night and day, they basically share a brain. I can't imagine hanging out with Polyester would be any different than hanging out with Polyurethane.
I will say this season has done a bit more to make Kneesocks and Scanty stand out from each other.

>>281633537
I kinda like the Bitch o'meter popups. Towards the end of the clip they start to feel like Impact frames.

>>281633366
A japanese person asked koyama if they were tanlines or sheer and he said it's sheer
https://x.com/sinozuka_atsuto/status/1955831393705189502?t=lHecY-54NZKVvi-n5ehuRQ&s=19

How cruel...

>>281633810
That's definitely what they're there for, but I feel it just made the sequence harder to follow overall.

>>281633822
Funniest joke in the whole segment, its so petty but so ineffective I can't help but laugh

>>281633822
someone edit it to be white

>>281633822
>"I'm gonna put some dirt in your nails"
>pours it everywhere but the nails
>Scanty in distress
these goobers

>>281633822
Absolutely baroque.

I am having withdrawal from a lack of best girls - scanty and kneesocks.

>>281633874
There was a fair bit of them in this episode.

>scanty will never look at you like this
why even live?

Who's your favorite Prison Bitch?

>>281633913
the big one

I gotta say, season 2 is doing wonders for Scanty. She used to be my lease favorite of the four in season 1 but she's getting up there for me now.

>>281632975
It was always here.

>>281633910
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! THEY'RE CUTE! CUTE!

>>281632935
Except P&S is set on America so GB can't be a gyaru or Okinawan

>theyre in the op and ed now
thats all i wanted. thank you based trigger

the demon sisters have consistently been the best parts of s2

>>281633424
Holy shit she's not litterly omniscient you retards

>>281633913
2nd the big bitch.

>>281633968
They've always been the best

>>281633913
Mini one is way too damn cute

>>281633913
the little one looks like she would bite your dick off.

>>281633968
For me it's her vulva.

>>281634173
puffy

>>281634173
puffy n.n

demon pussy got me acting unwise

Guy Jin is your typical harem protag.

>>281634260
please shut up. no one likes him

>>281634173
Puffy

>>281634230
does anyone have a high res cut of just this scene?

>>281632672
why do you even care?

>>281634298
Just like your typical harem protag

>>281634173
For me it's her smile.

>>281632802
>hurrr homo show
>same episode with angel-demon upgrade transformation
these doomfag spam posts are getting lazier by the day.

>>281633959
Daten City is in a weird Amalgam of Japan and America.

>>281633080
Bro, Panty has punched Scanty since Les Diaboliques.

>>281633913
I'll be the first to say the fat one.

>>281634337
and it's always been evil

>>281633391
>Authority fallacy
It applies just when Author's word is twisted for a false narrative. This isn't the case. Author's intent is clear.

If Scanty and Kneesocks are in Bitch jail does that mean that they're also Bitches?

Panty is so cute when she is horny

>>281633710
>Just the best characters play bass
bassed

>>281632567
>pissing and shiting himself over a parody being normalfag for his autistic weeaboo sensibilities
>yet is able to recognize said reference

>>281634371
demon bitches yes

>>281634398
>yet is able to recognize said reference
because i looked it up after, cuz i had no idea what it was

>>281634335
There are American flags everywhere, the show makes fun of weebs and most of the references are to Hollywod movies. It's America. And don't say Trigger doesn't care about the American market because they change Gaterbelt's lips

>>281633660
Not even close

>>281633822
MODS

>>281634429
>zenshit
>good
lmaooooooo

>>281634429
>token black girl
>she's rich and beautiful

Already a shit show

>>281634410
how about you just do us all a favor and kill yourself, you spamming schizo retard?

>>281634461
i'm not who you think i am

>>281633913
They all will kill you by snu snu in one way or another
sneed

>>281634470
>i'm my own faggot
you sure are, bud

>>281633963
This feels complete now

>>281634498
i'm a faggot for not liking adam sandler movies? fuck off man

>>281634371
They were falsely convicted.

>>281634499
I dunno, I have the nagging feeling that somethings missing.

>>281634410
>because i looked it up after
literal jobless obsessed behavior

>>281634536
staying informed is jobless behaviour?

>>281634429
why do the food and the characters look like they come from completely different astral realms?

>>281634499
Guy Jin and Gunsmith will soon be there, trusting the plan

>>281634560
Because they technically do

>>281634557
informed about shit you insist you don't like nor care, yes.

Is Trigger setting up Scanty x Brief?

>>281634511
>i'm a faggot for not liking adam sandler movies?
Yes. Big faggots do that.

>>281632934
His shaft is right there

>>281634592
it was her own sister molesting her right

>>281634563
>Guy Jin
Nah... but who knows, he's in the intro already
>Gunsmith
Perhaps, maybe they will explore her role deeper later in the season.

>>281634429
Zenshu was good, but that's about it, nothing special. I do appreciate it got better at the end however.

post yfw when >DIVINE DIVINE DIVINE starts playing

>>281632532
Huh thought this was a reference to dick size, but it's literally from their height.

Who is your favorite NPC so far? Are they better than S1?

>>281632728
This confused me, isn't knee socks her weapon. Than again panty told brief to fold her panties

>>281631541 (OP)
I hope she never returns, I don't want to see that ugly face again.

>>281633210
You want a dude who knows what to do when a care breaks down.

>>281634678
my fav NPC became an almighty gunsmith, so eh.

>>281634702
...what's the confusing part?

>>281631554
Kek

>>281634429
looks boring

>>281634678
Your not playing a video game. Those are background characters. Not NPCs.

>>281634592
Okay guess I'll talk about this. Panty is a whore, Brief knows that but in the first episode says that what he likes about. And lately him and Panty been closer like a couple, but if we apply non-monogamy rules it would reason that Panty doesn't mind Brief fucking other girls.

>>281634793
>achthualee

>>281633200
I wonder if she may be a Nephilim. We have chaotic neutral Anarchy sisters, Lawful evil Demon sisters, Lawful good Angel Brothers, some true neutral between it all would be fitting.

>>281631598
Already???

>>281634740
I dunno before anytime I saw her take off her knee sock it became a weapon. Guess I just thought that was more automatic than a conscious decision.

>>281634815
Yes. Because words have meanings and this isn't a fucking video game. Panty, Stocking, Scanty, and Knee-socks are also NPCs BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FUCKING VIDEOGAME!

>>281634839
You know I feel like that cosplay anime. Where the girl saw the episode rushed to make the costume and there's some behind the scene guy who actually made it.

>>281634592
She either imagined it or it was actually Kneesocks

>>281633200
Calling it now, she's a Trigger Girl

>>281631598
If she ain't fucking the gun then may as well burn the costume.

>>281635002
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Authorities have classified the incident as “reckless conduct” and it is unlikely that they will press any charges.

>>281634379
I guess that means she's always cute.

>>281635070
>failed trigger discipline check

Many such cases.

>>281634592
I like the idea of Brief getting flustered around Scanty and being afraid of Panty getting Jealous and Panty aggressively not giving a shit.

>>281633210
Polyurethane. hes made for big human cock. i love that hes a little handyman too. The twins seem like very cute, pure boys that also just so happen to strip to power up. Very cute.
>>281633264
Im glad they have no asses. Reduces the amount of thiggerslop people will inevitably draw of them...

>>281633994
sugoi kowai

>>281634499
Polyboys needed to have a Harp and Trumpet Horn

>>281634328
Her smile here fills my heart

>>281633814
Vindicated!

>>281634592
>Is Trigger setting up Scanty x Brief?
This was a really random thing to bring up. Unless Scanty wanted payback for him throwing her away like garbage. Question? Who here thinks he touched it?

>>281633710
>There are seven of them

Yeah. Pretty sure these are the deadly sins.

>>281633710
>Lefty, Bassist, Hime cut

I know who Stocking was before she became an angel.

>>281634770
Is cute and deep...........and has elves

>>281632510
Garter is so DTF.

>>281635235
Ok, so we know lust and gluttony. Who are the others? Greed, sloth, wrath, envy, pride.

This is Judgment right?

>>281635285
I think Brief is sloth because he hasn't got the motivation to go for what he wants.
greed and pride are the Polys because they both think highly of themselves and are really hunting ghosts for the money.
Envy and Wrath are the demons because Kneesocks envies her sister and Scanty is wrathful.

>>281635229
>Question? Who here thinks he touched it?
So on rewatch there's slight space between Bried and Scanty. Now it could be that Scanty got scared and moved to the right but in the shot she's right next to knee socks.

Personally and canon wise, I don't see him being a creep. If he's horny or if it's an accident he usually owns up to it.

So I'm going to say it was an accident, that Scanty enjoyed but couldn't bring herself to admit and put him on blast. Or maybe it was a ghost.

>>281635163
>I like the idea of Brief getting flustered around Scanty and being afraid of Panty getting Jealous and Panty aggressively not giving a shit.
>>281634802
>if we apply non-monogamy rules it would reason that Panty doesn't mind Brief fucking other girls.

If Brief were to have sex with the Demon sisters or Stocking would any of them be able to handle his size?

>>281635340
One of Stocking's transformers was Big Dildo.

After the last episode I think the chemistry of the cast looks great now. There wasn’t enough of that in s1.

>>281635286
>This is Judgment right?
Good catch. What episode is this?

I hope she's in the next episode, or at least in an episode before the finale.

Okay I love this segment a lot more now that I know what happens in it- it feels like a apology to Garterbelt for giving him the worst one before.
>>281635409
The newest one

>>281635070
Why would you do this while loaded

>>281635468
it felt good to see a boys day out episode, but it felt a little girly and was of course ruined by the girls showing up

>>281635330
>So I'm going to say it was an accident, that Scanty enjoyed but couldn't bring herself to admit and put him on blast.
It would be funny to see Brief interact with her more often or anyone else other than Panty and Garterbelt for a change. It was really nice to see him actually talk back to Panty here though.

Was it known that Fastener is a girl before this episode?

>>281635495
>saved* by the girls showing up
ftfy

>>281635561
Chuck fucks her in Chuck to the Future.

>>281634328
>>281635215
Based

>>281633994
Natty?

>>281635561
Fastener is a dude piloted by a girl demon, he's just much more loyal to the demon twins so he doesn't really stray much from them compared to Chuck.

>>281635340
Stocking is a freak when it comes to sex toys, she could probably take Brief.
Demon Sisters probably haven't taken anything bigger than each other's tongues/fingers, and maybe some toys. Brief's third leg would have them ahegao'ing in 3 minutes.

>>281633913
Big Lady Satsuki of course
>>281633922
For you

>>281635495
>>281635568
Honestly reminds me of my brother. He had a falling out with a rich friend. The friend is a great guy at parties but when it came to just being there, ultimately wasn't.
Polyester and Polyurethane are cool hangs, but that's it they didn't care about them.

>>281635574
The demons in their heads fuck, they don't fuck each other. In fact in Chuck to the future we see a flashback where both he and Fastener like the same cheerleader at their school and Fastender ends up fucking her. So unless you want to claim it's yuri it's probably more likely Fastener is a guy.

I'm locking it in.

>>281635659
The poly bros don't have enough unique characteristics showcased so far to really categorize them like this IMO

>>281635659
envy greed and sloth are really reaching, even wrath seems a bit much

>>281631541 (OP)
>sliding still and shaking screen
Amazing animation right here! sugoi!!!

>>281635659
Sloth should be one of the new angels. Greed should be Brief for trying to go for a girl above his station.

looks like spamfag just woke up

>>281635456
i hope she's not because she's shit

Gotta love the Gridman reference in the first segment with Panty.

>>281635659
The demon sisters should have heavenly virtues instead because they're faildemons and it's funny.

>>281635676
Well as the way they are now, feeling pretty solid on everyone else, I think the worst is I would have to swap them.

>>281635689
What!?

>>281635724

Well, I think that would be more like pride.

>>281635735
>Gridman
That show was very forgettable.

>>281635601
Yes iirc

>>281634230
[x] submit to demon pussy
[x] worship demon pussy
[x] forfeit all possessions to demon pussy

>>281635746
Scanty isn't significantly any more wrathful than the other characters and is about as chill at times too, it's not really her defining characteristic

As expected, didn't top the previous episode, but it was still plenty of fun.

I hope P&P keep showing up in these sort of 'not really villainous yet' situations, its entertaining just watching them interact with the other characters.

>>281635735
>Gridman

Ultraman, my bro.

>>281635659
Kneesocks really isn't Envy, she's basically always shown to just admire her sister a whole lot + works hard for her sake. I don't recall her ever being overtly envious.

>>281635785
I honestly thought the 2nd half of the recent ep felt the most like a S1 ep.

>>281635764
Yep, so forgettable it won awards, got a sequel and a movie, became top 3 best-selling IPs of Tsuburaya, influenced some Anime, created a 7-year schizo war in /a/, and still gets merch three times a month

>>281635456
same
https://files.catbox.moe/y7st6x.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/hew7u7.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/bklr4q.jpg

>>281635818
Her virtuous behavior is to cover her envy.

>>281633210
Polyurethane, of course!

>>281634429
Mm, this is close, but for me Apocalypse Hotel was just a little bit better, in part because its earlier episodes were a bit stronger than Zenshuu's.

>>281635823
Yeah, did have the feel of a fun S1 side adventure, the animation stood out as really nice in it, too. I loved Stockings little prance to avoid the ants.

Holy shit, Stocking has a bush confirmed

>>281635833
It's shallow and whores out its characters.

>>281635813
>Ultraman
Is a ripoff of Gridman. Yes.

I thought /tv/ hates black girls?

>>281635659
Good goddamn if that movie wasn't one of the most influential pieces of media in the already stacked 90s. Nobody would be talking about the seven deadly sins without it, and Anime made it a little toy obsession. John Doe was right. We would be pondering it forever.

>>281632672
If she were a gyaru she wouldn't have those dorky glasses and braces.

>>281635833
no one here cares

>>281635659
>Lust
This fits Panty and also Brief to a lesser extent
>Gluttony
yeah
>Envy
No one really fits this one t b h
>Wrath
I guess but she's more obsessed with order than being angry
>Pride
Sure, but this also fits the demons, especially Kneesocks.
>Greed
Not really, this sorta suits Panty more
>Sloth
Meh, more so suits the angels bros (refuse to lift a finger off the clock)

>>281635866
Hey, as long as they are cute

>>281635813
Oops. I haven't seen any tokusatsu shows, though Gridman was the first thing that popped up given the show has the same image pic zoom-in thing that Gridman does. Plus Trigger animated SSSS.Gridman and Dynazenon so can ya really blame me

>>281635879
Oh, God. Even for summer this is embarrassing.

>>281635625
>Stocking is a freak when it comes to sex toys, she could probably take Brief.
>Demon Sisters probably haven't taken anything bigger than each other's tongues/fingers, and maybe some toys. Brief's third leg would have them ahegao'ing in 3 minutes.
I almost forgot what a Masochist Stocking is. It was hard for me to imagine other girls being able to handle someone who was almost too much for Panty. I can imagine the Demon sisters being the type that become submissive in that situation.

>>281635966
It wasn't too big for her in that scene, it just hurt trying to get it in because her hymen had come back.

>>281635561
You are going to get your weird zipper dog yaoi and you are going to LIKE it

>>281635397
>After the last episode I think the chemistry of the cast looks great now. There wasn’t enough of that in s1.
It helps that they are letting the cast interact with people other than the ones they usually talk to.

>>281633795
I don't think the demon sisters were ever as similar as the boys, even in their intro episode Scanty was more ojou and boisterous while Kneesocks was more serious.

>>281635735
>>281635813
Yesterday's episode of Turkey did the same Ultraman reference

>>281635773
No wonder Brief couldn't resist feeling her up.

>>281635561
we saw what the devils inside chuck and fastener look like in season 1.

Hold up

>>281636085
That is THE Ultraman reference to make after all, it's about as basic as you can get

>>281636097
Oh, shit. It’s Bonnibel Bubblegum and Marceline the vampire queen.

>>281636093
I would hate it so much if she falsely accused me like that and coerced me into doing sexual favors for her hahahaha

>>281631541 (OP)
I'm the only who thinks that the first segment had a low-key Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas reference?

>>281636067
>tries to marry him
>gets upset when he touches her ass
What did she mean by this?

>>281636159
They looked decidedly more twinky in this episode. They have a much greater difference between their doodle and anime form than anyone else.

>>281636193
That was all a ploy for Corset to get the God Monkey dick. She didn’t care about Brief. Hell, she dared Panty to fuck him and got her face burned for it.

>>281636193
Scanty likes geeks.

>>281632532
loved this boku no pico reference

>>281636193
>>tries to marry him
>>gets upset when he touches her ass
>What did she mean by this?
Scanty is a proper lady. She doesn't give it up unless a ring is on her finger.

>>281632486
I was busting out "Life is a Highway" before the lyrics actually kicked in...

>>281636203
>They have a much greater difference between their doodle and anime form than anyone else
I know, and it messes with my brain. They looked so fuckable this episode, but then I remember they get ripped when then transform and it puts me off. Like I might be kinda gay, but not THAT gay.

>>281636283
>Like I might be kinda gay, but not THAT gay
You will be.

>>281636224
>That was all a ploy for Corset to get the God Monkey dick. She didn’t care about Brief.
Kind of weird they went through that charade instead of ..... you know...... kidnapping him.

why didn't they bring the original english voice actors back?

>>281631554
>>281632867
Brown =/= black

Cool drawing of Scanty here

>>281635765
DAMN

>>281636283
>but then I remember they get ripped when then transform and it puts me off
faggot can't enjoy sexy men

>>281636315
probably busy with other contracts
that or just didn't want the job

>>281636350
They don't look female enough for me, sorry fag.

Claiming this cute bitch

>>281633922
bane?

>>281632672
it amazes me that people can see blonde hair and think she's black
she's clearly a gyaru. i can't wait for these mongoloids to get nigger fatigue and move on from their DEI nonsense

>>281636366
considering every single character got replaced, it is definitely the contracts thing

>>281636410
Nicki Minaj

>>281635659
Are you stupid

>>281636159
I thought so too

>>281636418
Seems odd ALL of them had contracts.
Maybe it was something to do with Funimation getting bought out.

>>281636329
She's always pretty, no matter what.

>>281634592
>ywn touch Scanty's derrière
Why even live?

>>281636410
That plus we have an example in every single episode of how they actually draw blacks.

>>281635659
Well thanks for publishing it so I could make the accurate one

>>281636460
Might've just figured it'd be better to get a clean start rather than bringing back only a few of the OG's?

Also I think the original VA's for Panty and Stocking in particular were pretty close so they may have not wanted the role if the other wasn't also in it or some shit like that.

>>281636310
That would be against the rules.

>>281636460
Voice actors in America have some kind of bizarre guild monopoly going.

>>281635906
It wasn't. The seven deadly sins was already a famous concept before the movie Se7en, even being featured in Dante's Divine Comedy.

>>281636410
I saw people on Twitter complaining about the blonde hair. They said that it was their way of making her more appealing to white beauty standards. Meanwhile you these same people complain about Garterbelt having black features because "it's a racist stereotype." There's no winning with these people.

>>281636532
Yeah. In Purgatorio. Nobody reads past Inferno.

>>281636460
contracts as in, they aren't allowed to voice act for another company unless a whole bunch of money is going from hands to hands. There is a lot of contract stuff that needs to be taken care of which the new license holders(amazon) doesn't want to deal with

>>281636548
When in doubt
Fuck Twitter
Same people said speedy Gonzalez was racist

>>281636515
The nepotism is outrageous. If they were doing anything more important than voicing arabian cave paintings it would be a scandal.

>>281636577
In inferno too. That's how the circles hell are arranged. Plus it's just a general cultural concept that everyone just knows. I'm pretty much certain anon must be from a non-western country if he associates the seven deadly sins with a movie.

>>281634367
Really, so you AREN'T twisting the statement "she's wearing a sheer white suit" into "she's confirmed black"? Because the artist never mentioned her actual skin color, just that the lighter parts of her design are sheer fabric, if pic related wore that outfit and it seemingly lightened her skin and the author confirmed it's fabric, would it make HER black?

>>281633959
Panty Stocking Gunsmith etc aren't from Daten, they just live there

>>281634322
There's a side that does care and their influence and lack of opposition got Garter's lips changed

New Pop Up Shop

>>281636737
Anyone know what merch this new season has so far? I was hoping they'd start making plushies and stuff of the more obscure characters, but I haven't seen anything like it yet.

>>281635482
Like I said last thread. Nothing behind the eyes.

>>281633795
Yeah I thought their next appearance would differentiate them a bit more, maybe their 3rd appearance will

>>281631541 (OP)
The action animation was bad again this week. I thought ep6 underwhelmed because the budget went to the transformations, but it seems like they just have shit animators working on this project.

>>281636797
nigero!

>>281633963
Wait what got cut to put them here?

>>281636829
Clearly not something very memorable if you've already forgotten.

>>281635482
Dummies who know nothing about guns often forget or don't even know the most basic and important rules about them

>>281633210
Why pit two kings against each other?
>>281635165
>Im glad they have no asses. Reduces the amount of thiggerslop people will inevitably draw of them...
Based. Why I'm glad they turned out ripped instead of twinkish, no one knows how to draw proper pretty twinkish boys nowadays. It's always femboys with more emphasis on the fem rather than the boy, and I prefer my males to actually LOOK male, you know?

>>281636614
Nobody can hear that intellectual garbage over the malebolge of the flatterers that live in a literal shit hole.

>>281636817
You didn’t watch it

>>281636875
>no one knows how to draw proper pretty twinkish boys nowadays
Have you ever though about the fact that twinkshit is nasty and only actual real life homosexuals are into that? Traps are just gurls with dicks and men are supposed to be meat tornados.

>>281631541 (OP)
I really, really hate the English insert song that played during the scene in pic related. That guy's voice is horrible.

>>281636400
looks like a boy

>>281633210
Polyester riding my erect stick, Polyurethane t-bagging me

>>281636078
True. They felt very similar in comparison to Panty and Stocking, who like I said are basically opposites, but they still were distinct. Even kneesocks' habbit of getting flustered and blushing was established really early on.

>>281631541 (OP)
When it comes to creating new characters, Trigger are really inferior to Gainax and it shows.

When they talked about Drawn Together influencing the creation of the show, did they mean that they always intended for each episode to have 7 unfunny minutes before you get to a joke that was just barely funny enough to make you exhale through your nostrils like this season?

The subs for the Polys were way less obnoxious this time around, I hope future subs stick to around this episode's much more tolerable level of zoomerisms.

So is the whole "half of Daten City's population was replaced by ghosts" thing going to come up again? I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't, but considering said ghosts are also in the OP and this season being a little more serialized it would be interesting to see that come into the bigger picture down the line.

>>281636097
QUALITY

Do you think we'll get a third season?

>>281637028
>short sequence of low effort, badly drawn frames lopped over and over
I actually did watch it. The fight animation is amateurish. This is really lazy and trashy work.

>>281637191
hopefully not

>>281636981
>I really, really hate the English insert song that played during the scene in pic related.
I didn't like it either. The song during the football match also sucked, but it was nowhere near as awful as the one you're referencing.

Meeeeeeeh. This episode wasn't that good.

>>281637282
it's one of the worst out of both seasons

>>281637282
it's quite bad

>>281637233
That looks awful. It's like a 2-second animation that they reused half a dozen times. WTF

This reference is a bit on the nose. Haven't watched that movie since it came out.
Chuck
A black man stealing a car.
Also is this a reference to Ferris Bueller's Day Off?
Lol, poor chuck.
Why are these faggots back, the episode is already ruined.
No Brief, it's Faggot and Cockring.
Stereo chuck.
Fear and Loathing reference?
Looks like a Mercedes 220SE Convertible.
>Certified Bussin Vol 1
I hate these faggots.
Song sounds like a reference to Life is a Highway.
>Peepsi
Nohomo bro time?
Holy shit indeed, more rap tracks. Trigger sure likes them.
Poor chuck, again.
It's a shame vegas hasn't been destroyed by a kaiju.
Banger track.
Stocking would be into CBT.
Nice, a live action death. You can see the bricks in the wall behind where the blow up these models.
How could you not have a thing for them, both of the demon sisters are cute dorks.
I've never seen the longest yard. However another very on the nose reference.
The sisters theme is one of the best of the series.
They are just reusing that first walk in prison shot.
Seems kinda dumb to throw the game for some CO dick when she can get out and get any dick she wants shucked into her.
The design of the prison kinda looks like the school from KLK.
The prisons death scene was pretty funny.

This boy's trip episode was real good, I hope the Backshot boys keep showing up being randomly chill during their time off.

>>281637233
meant for >>281636961

>>281631541 (OP)
All the new characters this season has introduced are boring, especially her.

Best episode this season so far!

>>281637465
only because the others are so awful

>>281637465
based
/thread

>>281632445
kek

I don't give a fuck what you all say both episodes were kino for me

>>281633200
>FYI she is not tanned, the lighter part is her clothing
Imagine being the retards who though that she was tanned

>>281637515
>retarded newfag
nothing you say matters lol

>>281637611
Go to bed, Clint

>>281637515
baste

>>281637515
Based enjooyer

>>281636829
Shortened the Panty/Stocking and Scanty/Kneesocks cuts by a bit to just fit the boys in

>>281631541 (OP)
>two long segements for episode 7
Trigger should keep them short, I don't want the rest of the season to be boring like this episode.

>>281632306
It looks like she has flaccid cocks sticking out the sides of her head.

>>281637804
Well they are supposed to be anvils.

>>281637611

Retard, i was here when psg first aired but thanks for exposing yourself as a newfag

>>281631541 (OP)
Trigger should give up on comedy if this is their best attempt.

>>281632567
>for what purpose
To avoid writing good jokes. There are too many references at this point.

>>281633660
As if, lol. It might be the laziest though.

>>281634429
Zenshu is one of the better anime from 2025.

>>281635397
What chemistry? Gayjin doesn't even interact with the other characters.

Are the angel boys not even gay

>>281631541 (OP)
Trigger are shit at character writing.

>>281635705
lmao

>>281637515
Based fellow Demonfag

Why don't the retarded mods do anything about the spammer?

>>281637982
trigger rely on the screen shake a lot

>>281637978
maybe but they certainly look gay

>>281637994
They sure do, and it gets obnoxious quite often.

>>281637783
Ah I see

>>281637988
You're the spammer.

>>281631541 (OP)
Honestly my only gripe with this season so far is that garterbelt is basically a different character from what was previously established. Like its impossible to imagine s1 garter in this episode without attempting to fuck brief or the angels at least once.

>>281638058
You've been at this for 12 hours I see

>>281637988
They do on occasion, but evading bans is braindead easy. Just ignore the tard, it's not like it's hard to tell it's him.

>>281631541 (OP)
Gunsmith bitch isn't even a character, she's a literal plot device that made her episode boring. Because of her, the angel girls didn't come up with any interesting way around their weapons being restricted. It's like how Haki in One piece ruined everything.

>Certified Bussin
>It's Rascal Flatts

>>281633959
>the only dark skinned ethnicities are okinawan and black

>>281637931
kek

>waah evader
>posts no proof
The Trigger cultist is the ban evader, and we have actual evidence for that.

>>281637978
they're very gay

>>281638228
>The Trigger cultist is the ban evader, and we have actual evidence for that.
You're right, but the shill doesn't care about reality and just want to push his schizo narrative.

>>281638228
The triggertard ban evader is hilarious. How retarded do you need to be to actually think every person who doesn't like Trigger is a Solo Leveling mecha youtuber from /m/?

>>281636322
I genuinely hope she's Indian since that would mean both the "all dark skinned people are black" and "dark skinned people can't exist in anime" sides would be sad

>>281638280
>How retarded do you need to be to actually think every person who doesn't like Trigger is a Solo Leveling mecha youtuber from /m/?
He must have some kind of mental disability. Liking Triggershit when you're over the age of 12 is already a bad sign.

>>281631541 (OP)
>go back and watch season 1
>it's not even a 10th as good as I remember it
I shouldn't have rewatched it, it's ruined my good memories of the show.

>>281638278
>but the shill doesn't care about reality and just want to push his schizo narrative
He needs to convince himself that only one person can dislike this cartoon, or else he will have a mental breakdown.

>>281633068
She's not even human you retard

anyone knows if we have the full song for the new panty and stocking transformation?

>>281631541 (OP)
People are still watching this? I dropped it on the star wars episode.

>>281638417
>People are still watching this?
There's like 2 people spamming this general and a mod who shills it. Most of /a/ dropped it weeks ago.

>>281638417
This thread is literally all me believe it or not

>>281637978
They wear speedos but chose to skinny dip with the bros anyway

>>281638449
Yeah LMAO, you are me! Every post on the whole 4chan basket weaving forum is all me! I'm just talking to myself at all times!!!

>>281634592
She wants him to touch other places. Ass is the worst part

>>281631541 (OP)
Episode 7 has bad music, I'm disappointed.

>>281638468
If you think an old callback and a fresh pile of shit is bad you never liked the music in the first place

>>281638417
A lot of anons dropped it, but I prefer to finish things I start.

>>281636067
>too

>>281638477
Season 1 never had anything as bad as the music in this episode.

>>281638490
Most of the music in this episode was from S1, save for the one roadtrip song. If you didn't like it you should have stopped watching this show like three weeks ago

>>281638497
>save for the one roadtrip song
That's what I'm talking about, it sucked.

>>281638505
Yes and it's a riff on an american cliche like the whole season has been and if that upsets you then the show isn't for you
>The lyrics are just bad
Have you heard the ED?

>>281638523
>Have you heard the ED?
It's a lot better.

>>281638544
The lyrics are just as bad. So you just prefer nigger music to white music?

>>281638567
>The lyrics are just as bad. So you just prefer nigger music to white music?
I prefer good music to bad music, you POS.

>>281638388
Tantrum Desire - Reach
https://youtu.be/yXRWRvRxgvg?si=_WmjrhDCIyZR7RWZ

the remix is much better though
https://youtu.be/o_BG3Y_stwc?si=cdkHtmYxLUDNiOFD

>>281638615
Go ahead and define that, then, shithead

>>281638664
If it sounds good to my ears, then it's good. If it sounds bad to my ears then it's bad. There you go faglord, satisfied? I've never claimed to be some expert critic on music. The ED just sounds better than that godawful insert song.

>>281635070
>KUALA LUMPUR
>Thomaston, Georgia, USA
あれ??

>stocking is never the one on the wheel
>arrested for traffic violations
if you needed any more evidence the writers hate her, they're literally so disinterested in her they can't even think of a crime she'd commit.

>>281638887
That is to show how the reasoning is bulshit. You got the demon sisters arrested for feeding the pigeons

>>281638417
Im watching it just to see you seethe and crawl back to these threads every week.

>>281636875
This picture is pure sex. These zoomer brats need extreme rape correction.

>>281639007
Unironically a terrible fucking crime. Pigeons are horrible air rats that spread filth and disease.

>>281639097
And they shit everywhere, too!

>>281638866
Bible study ass fits

>>281634379
Panty is so cute when she's being dumb...

>>281639097
They weren’t in urban area

I really liked the second part of the episode
Lots of cute Stocking faces in that one

>>281639007
fuck im stupid, them saying they were arrested for feeding doves went over my head that it meant they were really just pigeons

I had a dream about PSG, watching a much better episode to than the corposlop we got

>>281631541 (OP)
Is she going to hijack the season finale to become the next Trigger Girl?
She's full of guns and has the trigger logo in her hair

>>281638866
Heaven flashbacks episode maybe?

>>281639170
Just school uniform. Looks like winter uniform

Gaijin update. Took me longer than it should've because I was experimenting with several ideas for both segments, but nothing was looking quite right. I eventually settled on a couple of ideas, but neither were my first choice.

>>281639461
We appreciate it man, thank you.

>>281631541 (OP)
I invite you anons to draw something

>>281639777
https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/75883302-8396-9308

Somewhat busty Kneesocks

>>281639941
Fusion sisters

cum

Loved that episode and the new frames in the OP

>>281637233
>trashy animation for trashy bitch fight
good

>>281631600
>you will never be pussywhipped by whore angels

>>281640163
For me it's more
>you will never be pussywhipped by bitch demons

>>281638643
Good find.

>>281638643
What the fuck its an actual song?

>>281638866
Trigger is whoring the heck out of the polybros

My wife is so cute
>>281632802
I think you already were gay anon

Emergency special broadcast on CyTube's /r/OneNETtvChannel is airing now with back-2-back episodes #6 to #7, uncensored.

Thank you for the wait. Enjoy the episode, sorry guys!

>>281633200
>she is aligned with 3rd third-party force outside Heaven and Hell.
GuyJinLORDS
>>281633229
This?

>>281633702
>but I wonder if she can even shoot them.
She literally shot herself in the pussy anon >>281635002

PSG would be so much better if all the episodes were 24 minutes long

>>281635235
>>281635285
>>281635322
see >>281627960

>>281637137
>The subs for the Polys were way less obnoxious this time around
Coincidentally, no mention of Daisy Savage doing the subs either this episode

Qt

>>281637385
i second this

>>281637978
They are PURE

Where is HE?

>>281638887
The demon sisters were locked up for feeding birds anon
The reason they were arrested was supposed to be bullshit and most likely related to the big bad

>>281639367


>>281639409
Not sure about hijacking the finale but its obvious she'll be the next Trigger girl
Her name will probably be Hammer

>>281639461
I thought you were going to add the gaijins on the pissing contest but this is kino too

>>281640499
trafficking weapons with Gunsmith Bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vv4rhQVew

I have watched their transformation more often than I'd care to admit.
No homo just hardcore miring their divine physique.

>>281640613
It's very neat and they have nice voices and song

>>281640613
Same, their physique is unironically perfect. Too bad it's impossible to achieve that natty and without dehydrating to death

>>281640613
Nigga that's gay

Fastener didn't join the boys for the boys night out
Does this mean Fastener is a girl?

>>281640713
Yeah

>>281640666
Possible as natty. Just takes years, cutting to 10% is another matter

>>281632567
this is pretty fucking good bait unless you’re an actual retard of course

>>281632567
the Adam Sandler version was a remake you dumb zoomer

Just watched the episode, both segments are max comfy. I love it.

>>281640743
https://files.catbox.moe/cmmqus.jpg I have stagnated, i will never reach the Polybros physique...

>>281640806
Bonding kino episode, especially the end of the first one. It felt so natural who every character interacted with eachotehr

>>281640980
You are already there, just eat less lol. Cutting is truly a more painful thing than lifting and eating that's for sure

>>281640980
i wonder if the new angels will fight the girls in the finale until their shift ends and then they will turn on the big bad or if they will just fuck off

last episode was... bitchin'

They teleport through coffins now?

>>281641124
The demonic side of daten city is a pathway to powers some consider unnatural

>not wanting to work on free time is bad
do boomers really

>>281641234
This gives me Second Life vibes...

in s1 she crushed the squirrel, in s2 she saved the dog

>>281641327
>>281641342
growth

Or maybe audiences have just gotten more averse to animals dying, look at the reaction to that one capeshit movie

japs call GB ''Gansu''

>>281641178
Japoomers? Yes definetly
Oldniggers still have the "i would literally die for my boss' salary" autism over there but young people are wising up

>>281634417
Didn't the first season show that their country flag was an amalgamation of both the USA and Japanese flags?

>>281641517
season 2 as well, he's full of shit

>>281641598
that being said though, Gansu is a reference to Rally who is actually a brown pajeeta and not tanned so yeah

>>281641410
That and for most people there's a big difference between running over a squirrel vs a dog. The former is just an annoyance because it's just a wild animal, while the latter is something you are more accustomed to thinking of as something that could be a cute pet.

So this is the only yuri Trigger will ever give us?

>>281641681
this is just prison rape

>>281641620
>Gansu is a reference to Rally
Should have made her make out with Panty to get that feeling truly like she did with Misty.

>>281641681
Yes that's right! Scanty and Kneesocks are just being very good sisters to each other, so don't think too hard about their longing stares and gentle touches. Just your typical close sister besties

>>281641598
>>281641620
If Alexander III reach Japan

>>281641755
They share their bed

>>281641681
This is rape just like KLK

>>281638130
You mean wabbiturds ruin one piece

>>281641054
I got the opposite problem where I love their physique but abor eating. Am an auschwitz survior bodywise

>>281641836
All the better to snuggle and hug in a platonic sisterly way. And sniff each other's hair that smells like the same shampoo they use. Nothing strange about that

>>281642008
Pretty much, for some reason Trigger decidded to tame the more weird stuff and just go all the time with Panty x guys angle in this s2 every episode.
We will never get similiar scene of Scanty scissoring with Kneesocks.

Official Gansu without googles on head

I laughed really hard when Garter said "OH MY FUCKING GOD"
both episodes were good, the first one was a 8/10 for me but the second was a 7/10ish, but I'm glad Yoh got his own episode

>>281642226
NKDSH

>>281637515
>you all
It's literally just one faggot spamming the thing over and over again

>>281641410
>growth
It looks like the opposite to me.
I miss the less 'dumbed down goody-two-shoes' versions of the first season.
Apart from Panty's sex obsession they feel pretty generic now.

>>281642560
what inspires a man to act in such a way?

>>281642226
Still sexy

>>281638356
>She's not even human
>but I'm going to use her as an example to compare to a human character
retard

>>281642579
>It looks like the opposite to me.
its because you're retarded anon

>>281642341
HORY SHIT!

>>281642341
>>281642635

>>281642587
if I had to guess probably a seafag

>>281642609
Gunsmith is also not human retard

>>281642691
prove it retard

>>281642691
her cell phone portal reminded me a lot of pic related, but since shes a space gunrunner shes clearly some kind of alien

>>281642579
same honestly
at least Stocking was more herself this time
less exploding into exaggerated emotions every time she is on screen and all

>>281642612
No need to get worked up because I dislike them dumbing down the characters.

>>281642713
She's an omniscient goddess of weapons retard

>>281642786
>shes clearly some kind of alien
>source: my ass

>>281642799
it's the opposite of dumbing down the characters, that would be what you want instead of making them develop

>>281642795
Yeah Stocking was acting noticeably different in the prison segment. Much more subdued.

>>281642815
how does she have access to her own pocket dimension, then?

>>281642814
>omniscient
okay
>goddess
no

she's human retard

>>281642844
we don't know yet but nothing even remotely suggests she's an alien

>>281642587
>not human retard
Anon I...

Gunbitch absolutely isnt human
She has gradient hair like all the magic beings, is omniscient and can create magical weapons. Also >>281633200
>Confirmed by Trigger staff yesterday live. And she is aligned with 3rd third-party force outside Heaven and Hell.

>>281642881
and the name of that force? JUSTICE

>>281642881
>She has gradient hair like all the magic beings
asspull, since when was gradient hair an indicator of being magic
>omniscient
allegedly, but still wouldn't make her nonhuman
>can create magical weapons
technically has a machine that does that, and we don't know enough about spiritual weapons to know if humans can't use them.