Thread 282214658

Roger? Ruined.

he passed up on a fine piece of ass

>>282214658 (OP)
This is the thread.

>>282213594
Whats more unbelievable is she seems like a vibe to hang around, like I wouldnt pump and dump I'd actually get tricked into dating this bitch

>>282214702
She deserves better than Loger

>>282214658 (OP)
>Roger became the PK because he won at finding the One Piece
why do people expect Roger to be the strongest or to be a morally good person? dudes literally called the "pirate" king

>>282214702
I want to see cute Roger x Gloriosa fanarts. She deserves a little happiness even if just in fan content.

>>282214796
I put it on our lives we(yes me and you reading this) are all dying for israel!!!

>>282214814
>to be the strongest
Rival to Rocks, Whitebeard, and Garp.
>morally good person
Beats me, he's a true pirate.

>>282214796
>it was pirate violence ACK-

WTF is Sommer's problem?
Wasn't he hugged enough by his parents?

How does he treat his own children?

Why are people saying the CDs would have lost without Garp? They have Saturn on the island and Imu can always take control at any point

>>282214658 (OP)
>Roger? Ruined.
True, but CDposting helps me cope.

Blackbeards actions in the story are based on the God Valley incident

Garp is a hero
End of discussion

it seems like youtubers are posting as if the chapter is out but I can't find it anywhere?

>>282213683
>One piece busts the grandline
>CDs drawn in the all blue off-camera so its not too graphic
Simple.

God I hate Imu so much, what a lucky bastard. He gets to have these fine gals all to himself. Not just talking about Gunko btw but that vampire-looking lady in this chapter as well as who knows how many other chicks.

>>282214870
>youtubers

>>282214870
https://opchapters.com/op-chapter-1160/

>>282214702
I will take her.

>>282214850
don't worry, scopper gaban is going to put fear in his heart for the rest of his life on god valley

>>282214901
It's funny how his guy draws tits even bigger than Oda.

>>282214850
He likes to see acts of love.
Especially the love that hurts.

So God's Sword is Imu's puppet self-insert, right?

Rocks died a hero

>>282214866
Can’t wait for Blackbeard to excite him

>>282214899
Thank you anon.

>>282214864
Nah. His actions are based on his family's will, not revenge.

>>282214901
Iury killed it with that one.

>>282214658 (OP)
Man, I never doompost and I don't mind the Shakky-simping but what Oda's been doing with Roger is pretty fucking lame.

>>282214658 (OP)
no seriously, what the hell happened to him here? did he trip?

>>282214922
It basically means you are his personal attendant. Gunko being present in the flower room alongside Imu and Rocks only further certifies that.

>>282214658 (OP)
WHERE CAN I READ THE CHAPTER!?!?!
I NEED TO KNOW HOW BIG OF AN ASSHOLE BOTH ROGER AND GARP ARE! PULL THE TRIGGER, ODA. I am ready.

>>282214850
I wonder if Doffy pulled off his Birdcage successfully and wiped out the entirety of Dressrosa if he would've been approached by the Gods Knights, like he's kept the tontotta tribe under his thumb and kills for fun, what's not to want onboard?

i miss zoro

>>282214959
They all ran over him

>>282214959
He got run over like Wiley Coyote.
OP is Looney Tunes.

I stand with Marijois.
Anticelestialism is never acceptable.
End of discussion.

>>282214957
Calma ae, Louro José.

>>282214994
holy fucking disgrace

Why does Nami get so pissy when Sanji hits on girls that aren’t her?

>>282215004
So Oda really doesn't fuck with the Palestinian genocide, huh

You guys are going to look so dumb when Roger knocks out hundreds of CDs just by clashing with WB

>>282215011
Você não entende...

>>282215028
Nami is a lesbian (real) and hates heterosexuality

Tenryubito will be redeemed and get away with everything by the end btw

>>282213942
>let him go without shit happening
80yo gabban was shitting on the godknights, the unit supposed to be the strongest of the WG and prime garp is stronger than prime gaban, if garp decided to become a pirate the WG couldnt do shit about it thats why they let him do whatever he wants within the marines because as long as he doesnt become a pirate that is a win for the WG

Love this flashback
Love nuRoger
Love nuWhitebeard
Love Shakky
Love Garp

>>282215060
>*SOME of the Tenryubito

>>282214658 (OP)
Is there a character who's role in the story is thoroughly explored that Oda hasn't associated with a gag?

>>282214988
Doffy cannot be trusted he has no sympathy for celestial dragons he was even blackmailing them

>>282215078
we found him, the dronest of drones

>>282214983
Just open up the dump thread, it's still in the catalog

>>282214913
Oda doesn’’t really draw tits that big to begin with, the large sizes more comes from the anime.

So why is it called God Valley?

>>282214702
roger not fucking glorissa means that luffy is not gonna fuck hancock

>>282215102
How hard was Hancock ovulating here?

Amazing chapter, Oda is doing great with the Roger and Rocks Pirates.

>>282215108
then who will luffy fuck?

>>282215116
>Oda is doing great with the Roger and Rocks Pirates
how so exactly?

>>282215117
Vivi just like how Joyboy fucked Lili.

law is so lucky...

>>282215108
Luffy was to have his gum fruit other his cock would have been gone

>>282215116
BUT ANON HE HAD GAGS
HE DOESN'T FARM AURA

Is Gunk eternally youth because an Op Op fruit user was sacrificed for her? If so, what made her so special to Imu to warrant this?

>>282215131
i was i was the one gagging on that beast

>>282215078
Damn save some Oda cum for the rest of us

>>282215108
>Shanks gave Luffy the hat so they're gonna fuck
HOLY FUARRKKK

>>282215126
He's developing their personalities, their interests, and relationships. They're all cool and more interesting than before.

>>282215140
She is connected to Imu just like the Elders which is how she is also immortal.
Imu probably desired her because she can withstand his power and thus Imu can use her as a vessel when needed.

>>282215131
nice

>>282215131
And Kuzan, and Crocodile, and Jinbe and Franky and Zoro and Sommers and Cavendish and Dragon and Sabo and

>>282215160
please tell us what's so cool about being a braindead simp and having this entire flashback be almost completely centered around everyone's love for shakky

Why does it feel like Garp is the main antagonist of God Valley? Isn't he supposed to be the good guy?

Who had a terrible childhood but deserved it?

>>282215188
He is the good guy though. Rocks having a few sympathetic traits doesn't mean he isn't evil.

>>282215089
Rebecca
Hiyori
Most female characters really

>>282215181
>braindead simp
You're gay. This is supposed to be the war for Helena of Troy.

>>282214658 (OP)
You people forgot the concept of gags? This Is just "Nami beat the shit outta Luffy and put him in a jail".

>>282214658 (OP)
Fuck Nuger

>>282215221
Rebecca's gag was her outfit.

which is it

>>282215221
Nothing with Rebecca comes to mind but Hiyori does those drop kicks

>>282215188
Yeah, Garp is. Not the Celestial Dragons literally killing babies.

>>282215205
Doffy

>>282215217
His sympathetic traits is not supporting the ethnic cleansing of his people and family

>>282215188
>Why does it feel like Garp is the main antagonist of God Valley?
Because he objectively is.
Majority of the Pirates there are trying to save a friend, meanwhile Goyrp is serving his CD masters.

>>282215238
Left.

luffy is so lucky...

>>282215248
You mean those guys Garp is here to save?

honestly I always liked him

>>282215259
Those are nice things but that doesn't mean he still isn't a bad guy. I won't deny that he certainly has a more noble reason to go to god valley than Roger.

>>282215238
odds he was on dragon's platoon? they were the same age at around this time.

>>282215289
I was always indifferent to him but I am liking him more thanks to this flashback

There's something funny about at this point in Time Rocks having a 2 year old kid, Roger not even conceiving Ace, and Garp already has Dragon old enough to join the marines and then defect.

>>282215289
what does that kanji on the right panel mean again? Is she truly dead and not moving?

>>282215282
Based

>>282215289
he's more of a hero than his father. how ironic that god valley will be the event that brands garp as a "hero" and dragon as a "criminal" when garp was the one who defended the celestial dragons while his son actually saved the slaves by knocking out that cd and gave shanks to roger.

>>282215289
Im a keikaku fag so the idea of using strategy rather than brute force to overthrow the WG made me really like him
That is also why I think Whole cake island was the best arc

>>282215285
He's here to fight Roger. If Roger was somewhere else, he would not be at God Valley.

>>282215296
>but that doesn't mean he still isn't a bad guy
Name one actually bad thing he had done. No hitting Loki doesn't count he was being a little shit

>>282215282
Where is Usopp? Luffy can’t get a stiffy without him.

>>282215312
It just occurred to me that "Anne" was probably the daughter's name Roger came up with when he wanted to get with Shakky.

>>282215365
Bravo, goda.

>people call Dragon a fraud and "..." memes because Oda has yet to implement him in the story
>2 chapters of Dragon character development
>Dragon stocks surging
Is this what they call Zoomer impatience?

>>282215238
The fuck happened to TCB this chapter. They also fucked the gunko bits up

Can someone explain to me what happened in this page?
I genuinly don't get it, what's the joke even.

coom piece

>>282215432
The "....." memes are funny though

did big mom groom kaido?
he was only 15 when they met and he's asking her to save him a devil fruit
he's also not into shakky because she probably keeps his balls incredibly drained (or busted)

>>282215312
What's funny about it? Roger probably wasn't planning to have a kid until post-Laugh Tale when he wanted his son to be Joyboy. Dragon probably had one as a fling and didn't plan it due to his work with the Revos. Garp had one very young.

>>282215394
I don't need to. The simple fact that he is related to blackbeard (also very evil) and that he wants to rule the world is enough to make him evil. Its obvious his intentions aren't noble in the slightest when it comes to that. And as for actual crimes well we were told that his crew raided many islands and even destabilized a whole country. Who is to say many civilians didn't get caught up in those affairs then?

>>282215432
No Dragon genuinely looked bad because of the Ginny thing.

>>282215439
Roger's crew beat him up for saying they didn't have a chance with Shakky.

>>282215439
They ran over him, have you not seen old cartoons?

>>282215411
>>282215403
>>282215282
Gomu Gomu no Magnum

>>282215437
TCB has always been shit

>>282215439
Roger's men ignored his cocky bullshit about how he alone was needed to save Shakky and run over to him to go save Shakky themselves.

>>282215089
Bibs

So was Gunko just hiding the long hair under her hat the whole time?

>>282215478
Yeah but they're extra shit this chap, both the TL and scans quality

>>282215498
No. Gunko's hair grew as soon as Imu took over her body.

What will Garp have to do in God Valley to justify himself?

>killing innocent civilians and children competitions

Did Oda have to make the WG so comically evil

why was big mom so close to him?

The most important character in God Valley

>>282215527
They were always comically evil anon. Its just that now that we're in the endgame, Oda is finally able to show their depravity in full force.

teach and robin are related

>>282215533
Linlin likes little kids.

>>282215527
Happens all the time in war zones and on private islands.

It should have been Roger and Rocks vs Garp and Garling but something(Imu?) happened to Rocks that made him go crazy.

Oda had no idea he was going to make Shakky so important for the plot back in Sabaody and i honestly don't know why he woke up one day and decided to do it.

>>282215498
No Imu just prefers her with long hair

>>282215533
i think she was grooming him
she was giving him the mating press every night and in exchange she was keeping him under her wing and gave him a nice devil fruit

>>282215533
Maternal instincts + he's huge like her

>>282215520
he did the same shit luffy did when shanks mocked him, but he was being teased by vegapunk instead

>>282215544
nigger she looks nothing like Olivia barring the eyes

Quite fitting that someone of BB's crew neutralized Garp

>>282215533
Linlin x Kaido is OTP

>>282215544
maybe

>>282214658 (OP)
I don't mind Roger being a bit goofy, but Oda has fucking made him like 10 IQ points higher than Luffy at this point. It's dumb.

>>282215001
I'm glad Oda is doing Roger like some absolute goofball. Fuck these retards that think that everyone is le stoic ultra epic cool calm powerful gigachad.

Names of the 19 CD families we know so far.

Nerona
Figarland
Topman
Ethanbaron
Marcus
Sheperd
Jaygarcia
Donquixote
Manmeyer
Rimoshifu (Limosev?)
Bavette

8 left unknown.

>>282215598
his sisters aren't in the story otherwise Rocks would've mentioned them

Damn sex

>>282215562
Young linlin is such a good design, i wish we have got that one instead of the constant nami faces

>>282215544
>>282215598
>robin and teach both have a hobby in conducting historical research

>>282215628
they don't have to be his sisters, oda obviously changed that
robin and teach are cousins

>>282215559
Oda knows how much people love when he brings shit back and he introduces so many characters that it's easy for him to pick someone who plausibly fits the role and then expands on their history. Watch out for this bitch she's coming back

>>282215320
>kanji
It's katakana, パタ, just some sound effect. The hands dropping on the ground. Fuck if anyone knows if means she's dead or not.

>>282215637
I wonder how she looks now as a granny.

>>282215652
thanks anon. I was kinda hoping to see her face so its surprising that Oda just killed her off in this chapter like that before showing it.

>>282215544
>>282215645
Once again, you wouldn't have thought of this if someone didn't insert their thoughts into leaks.

>>282214658 (OP)
>>282214708
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>282215642
honestly seeing young linlin compared to older big mom makes me realize that we were in her bad timeline where she gave up on her dream and i get kinda sad :(
in the good version she could have restored all of the dead races and bloodlines by fucking them back to life. Restoring the Buccaneers, the Lunarians, and they all could have united to defeat the celestial dragons

>>282215637
>sharp teeth
into the trash she goes

>lying on his back
>zzz..
>snot bubble
Dragon tranqed the CD. Reminder that Dragon never does anything.

>>282215625
Some names sound really retarded.

>>282215453
Kaido may be the one male Linlin didn't groom. I don't know why, they could've had ubermensch babies.

It's been 6 months since Loki was released

>>282215680
What are you so mad about?

>>282215678
except I came up with that theory on my own using my own brain. I don't give a fuck about leakers and neither should you, nigger.

>>282215686
You are the gayest fucking faggot to ever roam this basket weaving shithole.

>>282215637
Oda's been steadily improving his female character designs

>>282215688
I bet you wanted that fake spoiler where Dragon killed the knight leader with a CoC-infusted pistol shot.

>>282214658 (OP)
Roger was almost a mythical being. If you look at him from the episode one he just seems so much bigger so much more important so mysterious and yet also so very human. His giant statue was overbearing for any human, but in the one piece world he was almost an average size. Of course we did not know this, but in the first episode episodes in the first parts Roger was truly this enigmatic creature. We only saw him as glimpse from still images of flashbacks from people talking about him.

Many people may not now know, but back in the day equation Roger with even people like white beard was almost a sin. Gol D. Roger was above everybody else; he was the pirate king.

He was the only pirate king.

He was the barometer for which Luffy was supposed to be better than. The fact that the world government took a fight with the world’s strongest man, white beard, just to kill Ace, son of the world most notorious pirate. They lost thousands of men and destroyed the balance of power. Because of Roger legacy.

They say never meet your heroes and they are correct. Because mystery is derived from the unknown. And when a character is front and center, he cannot always be mysterious and cool, there must be some characters in him that must be shown. And this will inevitably cause Roger to lose his aura.

I won’t blame oda for this, because in a way it’s not really his fault. It’s just laws and rules of narrative writing. He had to give some glimpse of the future since he wanted to make some sort of parallels with the first second third world mythos he’s going for. To me it’s still a sad experience that when we look back at Roger, we will never see the guy that smiled at face of death while he was impaled by just two regular humans. We will never have to imagine what he was thinking or what he was like or any of those sort because his image has been permanently ruined.

>>282215686
based

>>282215637
>sharp teeth
Into my penis they go.

I hope we get to see some actual combat instead of spark notesing this shit. Show us what Rocks, Garp, Garling, and Roger can actually do.

>>282215700
He's still explaining the flashback, remember Harald gave him 3 minutes to explain himself

>>282215637
>>282215727
Anons...that's Doflamingo's auntie.

>>282215520
Wtf it's supposed to be on his left side not right. Dragon is a fake Monkey.

perona out of nowhere

>>282215688
The man who was explicitly given only a tranq gun... used a tranq gun?!

>>282215520
DragonisnotthesonofGarpbros...

>Lunarians are considered extinct
>actually, one horny Celestial Dragon captured and created a haven/zoo of them and his family has been breeding/taming Lunarians and marrying them for centuries
I want to be that horny CD

Wait, is it possible one of those babies Dragon is holding is Shanks? Who could be the other one though?

>>282215737
We're not getting God Valley yet, it will be a standalone flashback later on, if not this flashback would end up being WAY too long. Next chapter will open with Harald's and Loki's reactions to Rocks' death.

>>282215767
Kizaru...

>>282214814
>why do people expect Roger to be the strongest
Multiple stories of him wiping out entire fleets singlehandedly

>>282215766
what

>>282215766
i want to be that lunarian
where are the AI anons we need some Lunarian CD art STAT

>shakky shakky shakky shakky shakky we love shakky we need to rescue shakky shakky will love me i just know she will shakky shakky shakky is so gorgeous shakky will be mine shakky shakky
i literally don't care

How the fuck does Loki know any of this
Did Rocks somehow get out and tell him?

>Imu attacked Cobra with arrows
>that wasnt Imu attacking Cobra but Gunko somewhere in the shadows acting as personal attendant
>we saw her accompany Imu in the flower room when Rocks confronted them

>This ass-blasted that rookie Roger is taking frequent Ls
It was said during one of the Wano interludes that before Roger's era, it was Rocks's era. God Valley takes place during (and ends) Rocks's era. Roger is not in his prime yet

>>282215789
Luffy: I can only get hard with Usopp

>>282215797
Loki is not narrating all of this. The omniscient narrator took over and is telling us everything that happened before Harald's day.

>>282215637
Is she half fishman. If Charloss had his way he would have fucked Camie at some point and he surely isn't the only CD with this taste

>>282215797
>Loki is just sitting there with a blank stare until it gets back to his perspective

I still can't get over the big guy in the back. He doesn't even look like he was part of the original drawing, it's like one of the scanlators doodled him in the back of the page as a joke.

>>282215809
roger was not a rookie when god valley happened

>Find a really annoying anime critic
>They're a One Piece fan
>They never criticize One Piece with the same standards that they do with other shows
Why is this?

>>282215789
It's funny though.
OP is the following in the footsteps of Dragonball sempai.

>>282215737
>showing actual fights in a flashback
Anon...

>>282215766
Imu would smack them on the head and take away their slaves to be slaughtered

>>282215818
okok, that's what I wanted to assume but it just kinda happened which is weird since there's this whole thing going on in Elbaph right now so diving into Rocks doesn't exactly feel like the right time

>>282215777
We won't get the rest of God Valley, until the Blackbeard flashback.

>>282215805
we've known this for months now anon.

>>282215797
>>282215818
>>282215825
he was fucking reading newspapers and morgan was there I agree it's the omniscient narrator now though
but what's funny is that morgan was indeed there, leaking shit, narrating everything and somehow everyone forgot about this in 40 years?

>>282214658 (OP)
Shakky ruined many characters in 1 flashback.

>>282215544
This means Teach will fuck Robin

>>282215637
that is dellinger x inazuma x doffy, but as a woman

Guys
Garp is the most insufferable fuckface I've ever seen in anime.

Irredeemable. I hope Blackbeard finishes him off.

>>282215824
>>282215637
Another half fishman for comparison

>>282215831
Fine, a strong pirate, but he's not yet in his prime

>>282215850
shakky made them ruin their pants thats for sure

>>282215845
I doubt that. I think Oda will cover all of God Valley right now. As for what >>282215841
said, well Oda seems to be rushing things along in the final saga so its likely he will show all of it here and now.

NAHH THAT NIGGA ROGER IS A FRAUD BRUH ODA RUINED MY GOAT NGL I READ THE LEAKS AND HE IS SOME SIMP BRUH AGENDA PIECE IS REAL
MY GOAT ZORO WOULD NEVER

Where do you guys read this online now?

The flashbacks are good. Luffy is not a carbon copy of Roger thankfully.

>>282215777
Hoping that you are right.. Better save it for another time.
We must finish this flashback and return to the present. Mariejoa being half-destroyed will be funny to see.

>>282215849
yeah, Oda really didn't think this shit through. Though I guess you can say Roger simply eclipsed literally everything before him

>>282215688
Yeah he should've lifted the CD over his head, split him open and bathed in his blood.

The flashbacks are shit. Luffy is not a carbon copy of Roger thankfully.

>>282215850
Just look at her as a plot device.

>>282215828
>>282215872
so if one is a fishman and maybe the one in the back is a giant, im now beginning to wonder whether the Gods Knights are actually pure Celestial Dragons or if they are the results of mixed offspring
Adding Gunko into the mix if she was related to Brook and taken or adopted at some point, maybe the God's Knights have to "earn their keep" for the families they are the offspring of

>>282215850
Yeah, but Rocks turned out pretty good, and that was what Oda was going for. Roger is acting like a retarded simp, Garp a WG lapdog, and WB pretending not to be a retarded simp is doing to Rock's popularity that failed with Oden.

>>282215885
Rayleigh: Why? Why I ended with this woman? I was not even interested in her.

Gloriosa&Bakkin: Why I did not made the same with Roger/WB?

Is it Shakkys fault all important characters are simping for her

Actual mass slaughter, children being hunted for sport, pirates trying to get to shacky and stop it, YOUR OWN SON TRYING TO STOP IT

>AHAHA IM GARP LET ME ATTACK THE PIRATES FOR ATTACKING THE CELESTIALS
Also Gunko is just as bad as all the rest, lmao

>this is what average looks like
why does it look so small?

I have the raw for chapter 1161. What do?
Should I send it to TCB?

I forgot all about this last week, but it is very important for you to take your monthly Tamapill.

If Crocodile can be redeemed, anyone can

282215952
Why do you have this saved

>>282215939
>Garp a WG lapdog
Garp is just the typical Anime character who listens His rival name and moves to his position. Only that.
He does not care about the CD. Sengoku said it.

I can't take you fags and your complaining seriously knowing your ilk thought JJK had good enough writing to read every week.

Shakky was friends with Big Mom, why didn't Big Mom ever invite her to a tea party?

>>282215962
Better go on Twitter and post shitty hints for engagement.

>>282214989
Idiot zoro is best zoro.

>>282215964
No thanks, I hate the Shakky plotline. My hate for her can't be cured by loving Tama.

So now one is going to mention how Teach's mom absolutely mog that whore Shakky ?

>>282215872
>A half-fishman HK
The most unrealistic part of the Celestial Dragons is they allow children that are not 100% CD blood to be considered Celestial Dragons. But I guess after 800 years you can only inbreed among the 19 families for so long before you start getting incestuous mutations so that must have been a concession that they had to make

>>282215947
Oda's whole governing system really makes zero sense. You can't really reconcile early OP with post CD OP and Oda is just kinda saying fuck it.

>>282215969
>redeemed
He wasn't really redeemed, just a temporary ally. He's back on his villain shit with Cross Guild.

>>282215964
thanks, can I impregnate tama now?

>>282215970
Kuinas mother...

>>282215998
They were inviting a demon eyed giant like Loki into the fold. You don't have to be a CD to be a GK it seems.

>>282215938
Yeah they're likely bastards with commoner blood flowing through them so they have to work for the saint title. Still it's weird how the rest of the CDs regard them as their equals or even superiors and their leader even has the authority to execute a pure blooded CD.

>>282215999
>You can't really reconcile early OP with post CD OP
Because?

>>282215181
>what's so cool about being a braindead simp and having this entire flashback be almost completely centered around everyone's love for shakky

It's not Oden this time. That's what's so good about it.

>>282215977
still more popular among the west than one piece ever was kek

>>282215991
I can understand you.
Shakky was unnecesary. Roger&Rocks crew could had appeared here only for the DFs.

>>282216014
Loki is super duper special even among giants. A half figger just doesn't compare.

>>282215947
>Also Gunko is just as bad as all the rest
Who said she isn't?

>>282216014
That was only because they wanted Elbaf under their control and Loki is the Real King of that country.
When Loki said no they changed their plan capturing the Kids.

>>282215849
?
God's choosen people can do this easily in the real world, why can't the celestial dragons from a mere fictions?

>>282216019
yeah, garling throws a bit of a wrench in that
gunko somewhat does too being so close to imu
then again, could be their desire to fit into CD society makes them more zealous followers of Imu

>>282215938
Maybe they're the natural result of a celestial Dragon who isn't Habsburg-tier inbred.
Maybe that's a special ability of celestial Dragons, if they interbreed with nother race the resulting offspring is much more powerful and Imu is trying to keep them isolated in Mary Geoise to keep them in check.

>>282216025
>he doesn't deny it

When did you realize cross guild were the good guys?

>>282216021
You have the marines as somewhat gray justice against the chaos of pirates that works fine, but then it turns out they marines all act in the service of people way worse than the pirates and don't bat an eye. And there's no reason to even serve them because they're a bunch of weak shitheels who could easily be toppled (until we're introduced to the cabal of immortal assholes 15 years later).

>>282216014
Loki's invitation could have been an exception because they know that giants will play a role in the upcoming war but they also offered York a spot as a CD (we'll see if that's honored) so idk how exclusive they make becoming a CD

>>282215887
Showing the actual God Valley flashback through someone who wasn't even there or knows the full story would be retarded. And the flashback would be way too long
>Already 8 chapters into the flashback
>Presumably at least 7-8 chapters for the rest of God Valley minimum
>5 more chapters dealing with Harald's deals with the WG, meeting Imu, getting to know Shamrock, ripping out his horns, preaching more pacifism, meeting Shanks at Mary Geoise, and also Loki's growth and then finally showing what happened on the day of Harald's death
>5 more chapters of Loki's life as a pirate for 8 years, causing havoc, and finally getting caught by Shanks.
This flashback would end up being 25+ chapters long.
>>282215895
Yes it makes more sense for it to be standalone. I'm betting we're going to get it through Pudding reading Garp's memories of God Valley, and Gaban telling Luffy about it.

>>282214850
he's just a playful dude

The only good marine is a dead one

>>282215181
he's not a braindead simp, if that's your take on him you've spent too much time online

>>282216075
Of course that they are Good.
Lord Buggy-sama is the Leader.

Maybe turning the CD into the most vile piece of useless shit is part of Imu's plan and he actually doesnt like them either

Has Dragon redeemed himself?

Where was this outrage towards the Marines when Ohara happened which was directly their fault? Why are you people acting like it’s only now that the Marines are enabling evil?

>>282215637
>>282215872
Would and would

We're not getting out of this flashback until November at the earliest. Good chance it lasts until January too

So basically Brook is going to be of the Manmeyer family.
The flashback looked like Gunko was his daughter, lets not kid ourselves.

And it makes sense for Brook to maybe be an ex holy knight. Just look at his poshness and fencing style. It totally matches up.
Even more so since his actual background and lineage (apart from on that pirate ship) was never defined, unlike everyone else's.

>>282215788
no, here is you lunarian nami face

>>282216127
Perhaps the CD are just fodders(to Imu eyes) that live in "Imu Mariejoa" to Imu continue living forever reducing their lifetimes.

>>282215108
Is the same true for Zoros bandana because

garp is irredeemable

>>282216141
I think it's more about how Garp (I don't listen to Celestials) was there this time and didn't give a shit about all the slaughter going on.

>>282216141
Are you retarded

>>282215789
It's Loki's story and he has a fetish for female bartenders due to his mommy issues warping his childhood crush on Yda into a hyperfixation.

>>282215451
not really

>>282216141
Ohara had the """excuse""" that the Oharans were breaking the law, so the sort of retarded bootlickers who favor the Marines convince themselves that abominations like that are for the greater good. But there's clearly no greater good in God Valley, just absolute monstrous decadence.

>>282216153
thanks anon
the cd slave outfits are my favorite so if you or any other ai anons ever get bored...

>>282216163
he doesn't need to be redeemed... HE'S ALREADY MY FUARRKING HERO

>>282216157
I've seen a theory that he uses their evil deeds as a farm to fuel demonic energy

>>282216130
NAH.
With Shanks he was lucky that Roger took him
But the other brother ended in Garling hands.

>>282216152
>So basically Brook is going to be of the Manmeyer family.
Impossible. He is just a commoner. Also when Gunko was a kid he wanted to become in pirate.. Why a CD would want that?

>>282216141
I'm not a big Marine hater but having genocide tournaments for fun is clearly worse than exterminating an island of scholars who were researching forbidden history while being fully aware of what they were doing.

>>282216152
We know he was an army commander before becoming a pirate

>>282216141
As far as the Marines knew Ohara was only about stopping a real danger to the world, with Akainu alone being the one who took the blame for the most ruthless thing done there.

>>282216152
The flashback looks like it happens elsewhere, so Gunko is probably someone who links up with Imu naturally for some reason and was kidnapped, brainwashed, and made into a vessel. Brooke started from one of the blues, so it would be hard to imagine him being a CD, giving it up, going all the way to some shitty BLue and then starting out as a pirate.

Reminder Zoro never tightened his bandana vs Lucci

>>282216091
York requested the spot herself
Plus she's an invaluable asset to the WG and Imu

>>282216141
This feels like people wanting to hate Garp again like shortly after Ace dead.
Someone said something bad and Ace fans revived their hate for him.

>>282216141
As a op citizen I'd be fine with Ohara because what they were doing could have led to the creation/use of ancient weapons.
Just like irl where sometimes you gotta bomb innocent people so that third world countries don't get their hands on nukes.

>>282216127
That's actually what I'm thinking too. Going by Imu's reaction to Rocks kidnapping those kings, Imu doesn't give a shit about anybody besides MAYBE Gunko. Maybe their master plan is to kill them all and start from scratch.

>>282216180
Ohara was a unique case because the rank and file marines don't know what the big deal is about studying history, but they know it's forbidden "for a reason" and that reason is important enough that people are getting killed because of it.
To them (whether they can even imagine the full picture) allowing this "knowledge" to get out compromises the safety of the entire world, so to them this is a crucial issue.

This is much different from Garp and co literally seeing and knowing that human hunts exist and babies are getting murdered for pure CD amusement and as a hobby.
You can't really be okay with that and go "well....it's to safeguard the world".

>>282216141
garp would have destroyed thrown one of his cannonballs at the evacuation ship himself before akainu's ship would have ever gotten the chance

>>282216209
imagine being a slave to a CD York and you have to clean her up after she relieves herself oh god that would suck ahaha

>>282216192
Who knows. Perhaps is possible?
Imu seems like a Nika opposite. That he feeds from others misery.
Even his subbordinates(Gorosei&HK) have certain demonic powers.. While Luffy is the LIGHT/THE SUN.

>>282216195
>Also when Gunko was a kid he wanted to become in pirate.. Why a CD would want that?

idk ask Shanks

>>282215902
I think he's still figuring out where he's going with the celestial dragons, the holy land and god valley. Same shit with the revolutionaries, but I think he's got a good idea of what he wants to do with them.
The more we learn in recent chapters about the world government, the worse the marines look, and it also makes you think about the kuma and fishter tiger backstories.

>>282215828
If you look on the top left he also has big bat wings like Gunko had when she went Imu mode. Weird dude, he doesn't fit

>Roger is literally Luffy
>Rayleigh is literally Zoro
>Gaban is literally Sanji
Is this good writing?

god i wish i was kaido and got to have big mom peg me and drain my seed

bros I love this asshole like you wouldn't believe

>>282216247
>human hunts exist and babies are getting murdered for pure CD amusement and as a hobby
babies from unaffiliated countries which don't have any inherent rights*

>>282216192
Sounds like the concept of loosh farming. I wouldn't put it past Oda considering all the demonic/conspiracy ideas he's put in so far, but I don't expect it to be the case. The CDs are just depraved from being told they are living gods and Mu doesn't care since it doesn't affect him.

>>282215453
Linlin and Kaido's kid would've been Joyboy level

>>282215637
Killingham’s mom is a cute.

>>282215453
he's not into shakky because he's autistic.
come on, figure it out. They're just bantering and being competitive, like Zoro and Sanji always do.
If instead of shakky there was a banana they would boast of who would get to eat the banana first. It's just a
>we are fighting for Objective
>I'm gonna beat you all and Objective will be all mine
seriously what's wrong with zoomers nowadays? why are you so afraid of the idea of men showing interest in women

>>282216272
>idk ask Shanks
Shanks was taken as baby for Roger. He spend all his childhood with him.
Brook was already one teen/adult when he said that. No. Our Brook is not a former CD.

>>282216297
Same

>>282216283
Gaban and Rayleigh actually got laid tho

>>282216163
it amazes me how bb is not torturing this clan traitor piece of shit

Personally, I hate Sengoku way more than Garp. Garp still has the excuse of being a dumbass and clearly not realizing he's with the bad guys. Sengoku okayed a genocide and a manhunt for an 8 year old girl.

If they didn't want to be killed all they had to do was join the wg

>>282216297
>"Getting excited over killing kids again, Sommers? Doesn't that get old?"

>LUFFY AND ACE MY BOIS
>YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOOD DEFENDERS OF SLAVERY AND GENOCIDE JUST LIKE YOUR GRANDPA ONE DAY, RIGHT!?
>KILL THAT PIRATE SCUM TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR NUCLEAR FAMILY!

>>282216335
I don't think BB cares that much about it desu.

>>282216322

Shanks very clearly found out about his lineage and wanted to be a pirate anyway

Will the world economy go stagnant if Shirahoshi was kidnapped?

>Zoomer zoomers zoomers
Not every opinion you disagree with comes from your boogeyman, schizo

>>282216320
>he's not into shakky because he's autistic.
>come on, figure it out.
bro linlin made a move on a 15 year old kaido as soon as he joined the crew
he's basically under her "protection" but like... prison style protection
he needs her hand outs because he's not strong enough to be on equal footing for the rest of the crew
everyone knows you dont fuck with linlin's boy toy

>>282216338
>Sengoku okayed a genocide and a manhunt for an 8 year old girl.

Yeah. He was a WG dickrider in one conversation that he had with Saul.
>Are you doubting of the WG?
Former admiral Sengoku words.

The Manmayer’s seem to be one of the less capable Word Noble clans, falling behind in points even with Gunko’s support

>>282216335
Teach so far doesn't seem to care about revenge or avenging, even him taking his dad's dream of being king of the world is for himself.

What if Garp can't see the CDs?

>>282216341
or evict the Davy clan members which is what lead to garling wanting to host the tourney there

>>282215850
nah you're just retarded

>>282216392
yeah i agree. He never seemed like the avenging sort of guy to me anyways.

>>282216328
Gaban and Roger actually got laid, you mean Rayleigh has no offspring to confirm it, if he got laid then that nigga is shooting blank.

>>282216391
Plus Garling's 100,000 point deficit or whatever he started with

We have 12 of the 20 World Noble familes named, and yet we still haven't actually seen a Nerona yet.

>>282216363
But many years later when he was already used to that life..
With Roger crew favoritism for him(that had a bad effect in Buggy) why he would want another life? He was already Roger spoiled son.

>>282214850
You have to realize that Imu specifically bred the world nobles to be as evil and corrupt as possible.

>both the Rocks spread and Rogers entrance got retconned
Is Oda going senile?

>>282216298
Imagine being this much of a bootlicker

Luffy's mother

>>282216141
This is why I miss the Marines previous to the introduction of the CDs. You had minor bitches like Nezumi and major bitches like Akainu and the Gorosei. Now, it's all just depravingly evil.

Remember that this is canon now

Garp be like, genocide and slavery are fine but interrupting the murder festival is too far. What an absolute cunt lmao. You just know he isn't going to face any accountability. He can't even plead ignorance because he'd know everything because of Dragon

>>282216443
Nah

>>282216401
Stupid words from someone who likes all this "We all Simp for Shakky" shit

I find it very fitting that Shamrock summoned Sommers because he needed someone to run a child torture scheme and there's no one in the world better at that than Sommers

>>282214854
Saturn and the knights would have gotten destroyed by the pirates and their super advanced ACoC.

Guys, gear 6 is revealed femboy luffy

I love how Oda's been drawing the World Nobles lately. Not a single cute girl or handsome man among them with the sole exception of Garling. He wants to make it as explicit as possible that these guys are ugly freaks and you shouldn't be on their side.

>>282216385
and yet she never had a kid from him

>Gorosei have been looking for the Nika fruit for years
>ignore the kid with D in his name who has rubber powers
>also ignore that he’s wearing the same straw hat that Roger wore and Imu has a giant replica of

>>282216471
>Not a single cute girl
Gunko? Manmeyer girl? Goth swordswoman? Killingham's mama?

>>282216454
they're not simps. You are retarded specifically because your conclusion is that they're simps.

Teach WILL kill Imu
Teach WILL have a Celestial Dragon hunt

You WILL like it

>>282216475
yeah she used him for pleasure, not reproduction

>>282215289
I always thought he was a weak ass bum. But at least his heart is in the right place.

>>282216484
>Gorosei have been looking for the Nika fruit for years
They haven't been. Some of their members don't even know why the fruit is a big deal.

>>282216494
yeah this feels like the only way for the CD's to get whats coming to them without making any of the good characters have to kill anyone

>>282216297
Can’t wait to see Gaben put the fear of god into him

>>282215838
>I unleash gooner coc so strong Mary Geoise, Imu and the Gorosei are wiped from existence
>thankfully I had a second haven of even more Lunarian women

>Roger
>Garp
>Sengoku
>Kaido
>Mihawk
>Luffy
>Blackbeard
>All the Admirals minus Greenbull
FUARK black hair is so strong...

So do they still do hunts like God's Valley?
I kinda wanna see what Cross Guild does there

>>282216494
But I like Imu, he's cool

>>282216504
she spent all her life pregnant with the goal of making a kingdom populated of her kids. If she had fucked kaido she would have also got his kids

>>282216520
I think if anyone it's most likely Imu kills them. But that would be Oda taking the easy way out in addressing the CD problem.

>>282216484
That's the biggest problem with the Nika reveal. The easiest way would have been to say the fruit manifests one of several powers to hide itself, but they're the ones who called it the rubber fruit and there's no other rubber fruit in existence. Other than Oda just being a shit writer, the only cope I can have is that there were some memory shenanigans going on, where Shanks somehow erased their memories when he visited Maryjane by using the Straw Hat and Shamrock somehow undid it when he visited them.

Why didn’t he stop the CDs?

>>282216353
Wtf was he thinking

>>282216494
no lol

>>282216494
But how many people will he invite to the hunt?

>>282216541
you can fuck while already being pregnant, anon...

>>282216547
He was a baby in a stroller

>>282216551
he was thinking
FUCK YEAH TIME TO LICK CELESTIAL DRAGON BOOTS AGAIN!!!

>he's a brute from the vodka kingdom
>she's a beauty with big tits who shits out a kid from another man every year
they're an average russian couple lol

>>282216553
K, b, c.

>>282216562
That didn't stop Hercules

Well at the end of the day, Blackbeard WILL be the one to kill Imu.
There's a reason he was so desperate to have the powers of darkness, and its because it is the only fruit that can kill Imu.
He was willing to give up on his dream (because it would have been impossible) without it, and he wasn't going to let dumbass Thatch give Imu another thousand years of domination AND ruin his dream/revenge because he wouldn't give it to him.

Everything became a billion times worse under his watch. Akainu is dealing with the fallout

>I-is that...a SLAVE WITHOUT CHAINS?!!?
>NOT ON MY WATCH!
>GALAXYYYY IMPAACTOOOO!!!

>>282216583
TRVTH NVKE
Shanks the Fraud

>>282216586
Akainu is magnitudes better than Sengoku as a person.

>>282216494
We can only hope so

>>282216562
Why doesn’t he do it now though?

What if the D Monkey clan are celestials?

>>282216599
KOBYYYYY!
REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING!
GET THE WHIP OUT AND PUT THEM BACK IN THE PEN, KOBBYYYYYY!

>>282216545
maybe it turns out that the rubber fruit is just a an awakened paramecia that people started calling a mythical zoan by mistake

>>282216585
>shadow man undone by shadows
mite b cool

>>282216585
The Nika fruit and it's goofy shenanigans pretty much counter Imu's powers. Whatever Blackbeard has is something else entirely. Also no, Luffy will do it.

>>282216619
Too busy plapping bar maids.

Phew! Just helped genocide another Island for my CD masters, hail lord Imu!

>>282216560
yeah and if she had fucked him she would have also fucked him to get pregnant since he's pretty strong and has rare characteristics, being a horned big human but not a giant.

>>282216585
why did he draw him black?

>>282216484
The fruit chooses people who tend to evade the WG and the WG isn't putting all their resources into regaining the fruit because almost no one can awaken it.

Blackedbeard is a fraud. Why didn’t he use his COC to stop the CDs?

so bonney won the namamabowl

>>282216619
What could he possibly do about it? He isn't even the chosen one.

How many times are we going to reiterate this flashback? How many times are we going to see the Roger Pirates, the Rocks Pirates, and Garp all pull up to God Valley? The art is great but we just did this a year and a half ago with Kuma and like a month ago in the anime. I get that we learn a little bit more each time, but dude I get it they all show up at God Valley where the CDs are killing rabbits and Garling is cruel. You did all these pages last year.

Society did this

>>282216580
>she's already pregnant whenever they fuck so she just uses him for his body
>in exchange she offers him protection from the rest of the crew and gives him a good devil fruit when they find one
>eventually they get married when they are both old
based kaido cuckdo?
>>282216656
>she would have also fucked him to get pregnant
or she's just so busy constantly fucking other races it just never lined up
or maybe big mom is actually yamato's mom

>>282216680
Did what? Turn him evil? He did that to himself.

>>282216196
>exterminating an island of scholars who were researching forbidden history while being fully aware of what they were doing.
How the fuck can you write that with a straight face as if that's not diabolical evil?

>>282215493
No, her gag is that she gives you important information too late.

>>282216631
This silhouette in particular looks like Lili.

What would Luffy do if he witnessed the genocide tournaments?

>>282216585
Imu's weakness is reflection and she's scared of her own stolen face, that's why she wears a shroud

I can't believe teach was the true hero of the story...

>>282216707
Researching ancient history can potentially be dangerous so there is a bit more moral gray area in eliminating everyone involved.

>>282216722
Get mad, obviously. He would try to save as many people as he can.

>>282216722
beat his grandpa

>>282214658 (OP)
>Gol D. JOBger

>>282216729
Blackbeard was always the coolest pirate irl, so of course Blackbeard in One Piece is the same.

>>282216735
>Researching ancient history can potentially be dangerous so there is a bit more moral gray area in eliminating everyone involved.
You're fucking diabolical man, I don't know what to tell you

>>282216722
Laugh like a retard while Kizaru cries in a corner.

>>282216705
He isn't evil.
He's pure neutral. All he cares about is his goal. He doesn't enjoy causing pain, but he doesn't care if he does.

>>282216729
He isn't though? Luffy is the hero and main character. Teach is one of the bad guys.

great chapter. the manga should end with tcd.

>>282216639
no, teach will defeat imu, absorb imu's powers, then he and luffy will fight

>the real gay roger is still alive and they killed the cooler body double
how would you feel about this

>>282216760
What do you mean he doesn't enjoy causing pain? He keeps slaves in his island and has no issues torturing people given that he kept Koby and Moria as prisoners (and now Garp).

Listen Chuds
Ohara was researching the Holocaust--I mean void century and the real numbers behind it. They were quesitoning it. Questioning the most horrific event in history that must NEVER be questioned.
OBVIOUSLY those CHUDS needed to be wiped out.

>If half the country would celebrate something like this happening in real life, why do you think its so improbable that it would happen in One Piece?

>blackbeard slaughtering the celestials
>the celestials beg luffy for his help
>luffy protects the surviving celestials
It will happen

Huh, Teach and Robin could be cousins if not straight up siblings if the woman isn't Olivia.
>Timeline fits
>Archeology schtick
>Robin's bounty exploding after Shamrock tells the gorosei about a certain pirate with the subject being wether or not that certain pirate was a Davy, mirroring Garling's conversation with the Gorosei.

>>282216788
Would be kino

>>282216754
If there is knowledge that could endanger the entire world, it is understandable why research on it can be punishable by death. Of course now we know that the WG is just pure evil and Imu a fucking coward.

>>282215849
God Valley didn't happen.

God I wish I could die for a Celestial Dragon.

>>282216760
What would Garp's alignment be? Or other characters like Roger and Rocks?

>>282216814
Kobychan....

>>282216801
>JUST LIKE GRANDPAPPY TAUGHT ME!

>>282216735
>can potentially be dangerous
Like they might discover they belong to a secret masterrace that used to hunt kids fo fun so they pic that back up.

>>282216801
THATS MY GRANDSON, IM SO PROUD OF YOU

>>282216784
Luffy is going to defeat Imu obviously. He can fight Teach afterwards or whatever assuming he doesn't die at laugh tale. There is no chance Oda will not make Luffy defeat Imu, that's not Oda's style. There won't be any absorbing powers shenanigans either.

>>282216814
Borsalino...

>>282215108
based Sweetpea shota rapist

>>282216801
Goyffy...

cds did nothing wrong

Would One Piece have been a better quality manga if it followed Rocks from a young age until he finished his dream?

Not more popular. It would have been WAY less popular. But objectively better?

Remember when Garp didn't want to get promoted to admiral because he didn't want to directly respond to the CD? We've seen instances of 4 admirals now either disobeying or outright betraying the 5 Elders now while Garp continued being their loyal lap dog.

Garp was just following orders, he was innocent all along.

>>282216846
>Luffy is going to defeat Imu obviously
No, Teach is Luffy's main antagonist on both a personal and narrative level.
>There is no chance Oda will not make Luffy defeat Imu, that's not Oda's style
Bruh, Luffy vs Teach is literally the culmination of the pirate narrative. It is literally the style of the manga.
>There won't be any absorbing powers shenanigans either.
You know that Teach's devil fruit... literally.. absorbs things...
Are you from Egypt cuz you live in DENIAL

>>282216801
I mean why not, hunting the other side for fun is nothing good.

I wish my father was here

why did oda torture sanji like this?

>>282216399
>Oy vey, we need to bomb that hospital. Davy clan member are using it as an outpost.

It was extremely irresponsible of Whitebeard to not launch his entire fleet towards Teech. He is at fault.

>>282216882
Given the themes Oda hints at in One Piece, it would actually be better as a seinen where you see more graphic fights and sex scenes
The themes are already pretty dark with what he's able to hint at, but seeing the real thing would take it to another level

>>282216905
Sanji = Krillin of OP

>>282216905
Suffering builds character.

>>282215117
Literally look at the image retard, it’s Nami

>>282216914
SHUT IT DOWN

>>282216494
It's going to be a glorious day when Blackbeard has Catarina turn into Saturn and uno reverse the seraphim.

Any fans of UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE here who particularly like how Toby Fox employs leitmotifs to enhance various scenes? So I was thinking, I've been following One Piece for a good while now, started watching it during Punk Hazard, and then shifted to the manga and have been on and off following it weekly ever since. One thing about the anime is that while the music was very powerful, since the anime had time and budget constraints, they couldn't really do much with it as an integral part of the story. So maybe, in like 30 years, once both the manga and anime are finished (I can swear that Oda will not drag OP into a shippuden/Boruto shitfest), maybe some studio could pick it up from the start again and do the animation and music some justice. It would add a lot of depth I think and I hope that it happens if One Piece manga's ending ends up being as impactful as I think it will be. What do you guys think ?

>>282216905
>torture
He liked it

>>282216821
Garp is that guy who will get into arguments with the DM as to how his paladin is Lawful Good even though he keeps committing crimes against humanity.

>>282216920
I don't know if I want Oda to draw sex scenes.

>>282216950
Summarize your post

>>282216580
I refuse to believe they didn't fuck

>>282216893
I don't give a fuck who the main antagonist is. I just said that Luffy will fight both of them separately.
>You know that Teach's devil fruit... literally.. absorbs things...
I know that. But its not Oda's style to have Luffy fight the same type of powers again. If anything, what is more likely to happen is that Teach will awaken his mythical zoan fruit (oda will retcon it just you fucking watch) which will be another god and then he and Luffy will fight.
How the fuck am I in denial?
>Luffy VS Teach is literally the culmination of the pirate narrative
>anon still thinks this is a pirate manga
Kek finding the one piece is just a stepping stone for luffy. There will be shit afterwards left to do.

REMINDER

Sanji should have come back from the timeskip as a woman. The pervert would have come full circle.
You can just TELL Oda wanted to do it.

>>282216905

Why is one piece so good bros

>>282216950
One Piece is already getting an anime remake soon if that's what you're talking aboutm

>>282216964
I'm trans

>>282216972
Why do you think Sanji lost his shit when he got Nami's body?
Ivan needs to get on that shit so Zoro can fuck him/her already.

God Oda let's wrap this up.

>>282216992
Congrats Kiku!

Why did the WG declare Luffy a Yonko instead of Kidd or Law?

>>282216950
Kys bitch

>>282216722
he'd probably start swinging

>>282216992
We know, Sanji...

>>282216905
still waiting for sanji to finally learned that luffy got to spend time on an island full of virgin girls and have the world's prettiest woman full in love with him

>>282217013
>Kidd or Law
Who?

>>282216970
>How the fuck am I in denial?
I've talked with you before.
>>anon still thinks this is a pirate manga
Oda is telling multiple stories at the same time.
One very obvious layer is the pirate adventure (romance) narrative.
Oda weaves them all together and the story beats satisfy multiple levels.
Luffy vs Imu satisfies the story on one level, but not both.
Luffy vs Teach satisfies the story on all levels.
>kek
still havent gotten over your habit i see

>>282217013
Cuz Luffy has the SH Grand Fleet.

>>282216141
Newfags.

>>282217013
Because SHITdd and Law don't deserve to be called that because they are WEAK.

>>282216972
He'd be too weak, you can't use haki while gender swapped otherwise it flips you back.

>>282217013
Luffy has a fleet and influence, Kid and Law are just strong bums (well, Law is strong at least).

>>282217020
>still waiting for sanji to finally learned that luffy got to spend time on an island full of virgin girls and have the world's prettiest woman full in love with him
He already found out and seethed in Sabaody.

No way....

>>282215108
Oh fuck, LuNa getting stronger each day

>>282216722
He'd clearly start punching people which is his solution to everything and also what he did on sabaody

>>282217013
The guys who had to team up to defeat Big Mom and only won via knocking her off the stage?
The Big Mom that will return?

>>282217037
That was the case with Doq Q's feminization disease but maybe Iva's version is different.

Kid? Coming back bigly

>>282217022
Oh you're that anon. I didn't say he couldn't be the main antagonist I just said that Luffy will also be the one to defeat Imu. I already acknowledged that he can fight Teach afterwards or whatever. Those aren't mutually exclusive.

>>282217037
Can use Haki if you get the Ivan treatment, right?
It's only DocQ that we've seen otherwise. Oda chickened out.

>>282216788
>Everyone who knew him was wondering why he was aura farming so much when everyone was expecting him to slip on the steps and kill himself.

>>282217043
damn
must've been the most nothingburger reaction for me to forget about it

>>282216283
>roger fucks around with women
>rayleigh is a thoughtful reserved person
>gaban got laid
you got it all wrong

>>282217064
Can't wait to see his reaction panel when Luffy becomes Pirate King.

>>282217041
Can Law even do anything outside of his COOM (which doesn't work on anyone stronger than fodder I might add)?

>>282217082
but that doesnt satisfy teach's narrative arc of fulfilling the inherited will of rocks

>>282217098
Law's only move against highlevels is the sword move that goes through you and shocks you from the inside.
Still arguably one of the strongest moves in the series.

>>282216754
>>282216707
nta but the thing is that even thouigh Ohara is unjustifiable to the reader, you can see why an in-universe character that sides with the marines would think it had to be done even though it's wrong, and even then you could see that everyone besides Akainu didn't really want to do it.
With the slave hunts there is no reason in or out of universe to explain why someone who isn't irredeemably evil wouldn't immediately turn their weapons on the Celestial Dragons.

>>282216678
>a year and a half ago with Kuma
It's one month shy of two full years since then.

>>282217100
why does he need to? If anything, it seems more appropriate that he lets Luffy handle everything as he sneaks behind his whole alliance and becomes king of the world.
Can you really not conceive a scenario where BB succeeds without him killing Imu?
Also I'm still not convinced that he won't simply be defeated at laugh tale and laugh tale is obviously not the final arc.

>>282217085
Here
Also I didn't realize Franky was going gaga over Hancock too, lol

>>282217098
How are the fishes doing, Kid?

>>282217143
>Also I didn't realize Franky was going gaga over Hancock too, lol
He's a straight man

>>282217046
No way

I am a real yonkou
I am a real yonkou
I am a real yonkou

>>282217185
We know, Shanks.

>>282217138
>why does he need to? If anything, it seems more appropriate that he lets Luffy handle everything as he sneaks behind his whole alliance and becomes king of the world.
because rocks said he'd be back to defeat imu
rocks failed (fate had other ideas)
teach inherits the will, returns, and defeats imu (and yes becomes king of the world sitting atop the throne at the seat of the world where luffy will have to challenge him for ultimate world leadership probably destroying the seat and the red line in the process)
>Can you really not conceive a scenario where BB succeeds without him killing Imu?
of course i can. the question is - is that the strongest narrative choice?
and the answer is no, there are stronger choices, and oda, despite some flaws, is overall a good writer and has done a good job of weaving a bunch of story threads together on a number of levels.
>Also I'm still not convinced that he won't simply be defeated at laugh tale and laugh tale is obviously not the final arc.
i mean could be, but Teach is gonna be the one to defeat Imu and follow through on the inherited will

So the celestial dragons used the marines to round up the civilians, then made them part of the hunt?

No wonder the marines didn't know what happened here, they all got killed

>>282217185
Shanks…

>>282215998
They were going to let York become a CD in exchange for the Mother Flame, you dont need to be born into it

>>282217207
Garling is definitely going to turn her into a slave. He’s just that evil

>>282217197
No that's just a TCB translation problem.

>>282217207
>Under Garling's supervision
York is currently getting whipped into mass producing the Mother Flame

>>282217046
Bullet would've been a child during God Valley.

>>282217013
because Shidd and Lawl don't have military power, same reason why mihawk is not called a Yonko

>>282217189
I'm afraid simply inheriting Rocks' will is not sufficient reasoning for me. We could use that same logic for other characters such as the Scabbards and Momo inheriting Oden's will and thus being the ones to defeat Kaido. Or that Wyper inherited Kalgara's will and would be the one to defeat Enel. There is also the matter of Law inheriting Cora's will and being the one to defeat Doffy. Of course, we all know how each of these scenarios ended.
>stronger choice
I suppose you and I will have to disagree on this front. I don't see Teach being the one to do it as being narratively satisfying. It also goes against Oda's writing pattern and style as previously mentioned.
>I mean could be
Glad you could see what I was trying to say at least. I do enjoy these debates but I think its time we move onto something else since neither of us are budging it seems haha.
>Lastly
LuNami is canon and confirmed by Oda

>>282217143
Marguerite my love...

>>282216964
>>282216987
I was thinking it'd be nice if One Piece had its music implement leitmotifs, unique for each character, location, event, title etc.

Like part of a celestial dragon leitmotif in Shanks's theme in the first flashback and then when he's shown in present time the Yonko leitmotif gets implemented too. But then you get the actual Yonko and CD themes hundreds of episodes later and it clicks that Shanks was portrayed as one from the very beginning. If you don't know what leitmotifs are you'd have to look them up.

>>282217281
>I'm afraid simply inheriting Rocks' will is not sufficient reasoning for me
i'm sorry anon but that is where I have to say you are neglecting a core part of the story.
>We could use that same logic for other characters such as the Scabbards and Momo inheriting Oden's will and thus being the ones to defeat Kaido.
Yes, but there is also the theme that if someone cant do it, they rely on someone else, and in that case Luffy puts their will on his back and carries on in their stead.
>Or that Wyper inherited Kalgara's will and would be the one to defeat Enel
See above
>There is also the matter of Law inheriting Cora's will and being the one to defeat Doffy
See above (recurring theme)
>I don't see Teach being the one to do it as being narratively satisfying. It also goes against Oda's writing pattern and style as previously mentioned.
before the rocks flashback I could have seen this argument, but after the rocks flashback i think the number of possible directions of the story is narrowing
I would be curious what you mean by
>goes against Oda's writing pattern and style
You've said that a few times but I'd like to see some examples of what you mean
>Glad you could see what I was trying to say at least
its not that i never saw what you were trying to say, and again i think there have been a LOT of different directions this story could have gone, but he's definitely narrowing the spectrum of possibilities as things become more and more defined
>LuNami is canon and confirmed by Oda
its funny of all the things in one piece ships dont even ping my radar haha
I do like crocomom though that shits hilarious

>>282215108
>niece
sister in law

>>282217281
>LuNami is canon and confirmed by Oda
Not even

Which of these translations is correct? It's two very different interpretations of the line

>>282217375
There may never be romance between crewmates, but the rest of it is BS. Oda's packed the manga with romance since then.

>>282217121
One Piece makes no sense when you try connecting the Marines and Celestial Dragons together. There should be no reason to listen to CD's when they didn't have a kill SAT until recently and Imu the devil was content to play in their butterfly room.

>>282217407
2) seems right with the vomiting

>>282217407
The first one
You literally see his unit later talking
The dead people are are locals with targets painted on them and he's reacting to that

>>282217407
I'm going with the first one. Would further radicalise Dragon as doing the right thing got other people killed.

>>282217351
>You've said that a few times but I'd like to see some examples of what you mean
It goes against Oda's writing style to allow someone else to beat the "main villain" of an arc or saga that isn't named Luffy. The best I could see is if Teach contributing in the final battle against Imu and the government just like the rest of Luffy's allies (except in this case Teach would only be an "ally" out of convenience) like Sabo, Koby, Dragon, and so on.
But in the end, when everyone else has failed or have become tired, its always Luffy who saves the day and finishes the job (see the Kaido fight). That has pretty much always rung true in one piece. Sure, Luffy gets help from his allies (thanks to his secret power of drawing people to him) but its always him who gets the job done.
Now, some people think Teach might do a sneaky or do the final blow. But honestly, those arguments sound just like the ones people made with Teach versus Kaido if you're feeling brave then go check out old forum posts where people made predictions of Teach showing up in the final fight against Kaido and stealing his fruit. This is was all before the Imu reveal in the reverie arc btw

>>282217407
How hard is Japanese grammar is anyway that we ended up with two vastly different translations of the same sentence? Surely there is a way to tell past and future tense apart.

>>282217528
yes im familiar with those theories and i agreed with some of them based on the theory that teach could have 3 fruits (based on the 3 heads) and was trying to collect the strongest of each types (Quake Paramecia, Darkness Logia, and Dragon Zoan)
It's definitely in character for Teach
I agree with you in terms of Luffy always being the one to beat the big bad of the arc
The question will become if Imu becomes the big bad for the arc, on whether Imu will be part of in between piece at some point and show off with teach there.
Imu so far hasn't seemed like the "direction action" type and more of an "orchestrate behind the scenes" type which is perfect for Teach's greatest power: defeating someone off screen

>>282217560
The way to tell is just looking at the very next panel with Dragon's platoon asking for him.

>>282217560
my japanese is rusty but it's not necessarily that the grammar is "hard" but that there are situations in which a lot is "implied", that is to say, they will just straight up not say words if they think the meaning is clear or the context has already been relayed
also depending on verb tenses used, it could also be unclear if someone is making a statement about the current state or if its the preceding condition to some hypothetical

that's why sometimes the "official" translations have easier ability to clarify context and arrive at a translation

also its possible the context is clear and its a skill issue on the part of the translators

>>282217609
I feel that it is too early (yes I know) to judge that. Imu has taken an active role in this story right now just as Shanks did in Egghead. And, most recently, it seems Oda is giving Dragon and Garling a lot of attention as well.
That is unfortunately one of his biggest flaws which I think both of us can agree; he introduces these absolutely incredibly interesting characters but holds off on them for hundreds of chapters until it is 'time'.
Its the same case with Imu really. His/Her character is intertwined with the void century and all of it's glories. So, it makes sense that as the Strawhats get closer to the truth that Imu would become more involved with the plot (most obvious was how we learned of his plan to sink the world last arc, and now he is trying to recruit the Giants to join his side).
But his motivations and other aspects of his character have yet to be delved into. And I doubt Oda will go into them anytime soon.
It doesn't really make any sense for Blackbeard to "off-screen" Imu until we learn more about them. We will get some of it this arc via Gunko but there is obviously much more that we don't know.
I completely understand what you mean by "direction action" and I agree that Oda should've made Imu do shit earlier. But hey, what can you do? Might as well do it now or never again lol. Regardless, considering how narratively significant Imu is, I cannot really imagine Oda making them be part of any "in-between piece" arc or what have you. So, let us wait and see.

>>282217737
>I feel that it is too early (yes I know) to judge that.
yeah i'm definitely taking a longer shot but the rocks flashback is solidifying my bet
>That is unfortunately one of his biggest flaws which I think both of us can agree; he introduces these absolutely incredibly interesting characters but holds off on them for hundreds of chapters until it is 'time'.
big true
>Its the same case with Imu really. His/Her character is intertwined with the void century and all of it's glories.
this is kind of another reason for why I don't think imu will be the or main big-bad. Imu is from the "previous generation" contemporaneous with JoyBoy. Luffy doesn't really care about the previous generation in the same way Teach seems to (or rather has knowledge of), so Teach beating Imu would be more satisfactory from a generational revenge thing (especially with the new reveal of being from the Davy clan)
>And I doubt Oda will go into them anytime soon.
Agreed
>It doesn't really make any sense for Blackbeard to "off-screen" Imu until we learn more about them.
I will admit to a bit of meme-ing on that one haha
>Regardless, considering how narratively significant Imu is, I cannot really imagine Oda making them be part of any "in-between piece" arc or what have you
I will say that I was half-joking half-serious with that one. I can genuinely see it going either way and could defend Oda doing either one. Imu is significant to the "plot" but what about to the "story", and specifically "Luffy's story" of his pirate adventure (which no matter how many layers we have it's still a pirate adventure).
Agreed we'll just have to see how it pans out.

Also, im going for dinner great chatting and see you next thread

>>282217914
actually, I don't really think this is much of a pirate story but that's for another time. Bye then.

>>282217954
ha funny enough im still here, gonna big disagree with you here
oda has made it very clear this is a shonen adventure story about pirates
it's one of many threads, but an important thread nonetheless

>>282215717
Appreciate the effort post

NERONA IMU

NERO = WATER IN GREEK
NERO = ROMAN EMPEROR THAT WENT BATSHIT AND BURNED IT ALL DOWN

ONA = WOMAN

>>282215964
No thanks. Already had mine

>>282215783
Through luck. He's like Luffy reality bends to make sure he's in the right place at the right time.

>>282218568
>through luck
naw man Roger could hang with the best of them.

>>282216091
Stulley though he could go from king of goa to CD as well.

There's got to be some process of uplifting.

>>282216338
>Garp still has the excuse of being a dumbass
No actually, he does not. He's worse than Sengoku because he's completely dishonest while Sengoku is very clear about what he is. Garp hides behind his reputation but he's as pathetic and slothful as they come. He's as the kids say, a "fraud" in every sense of the word. He's no hero. Garp went back home because he knows it's his fault Ace died, so Dadan could beat him.

>>282215453
Big Mom and Kaido have a dysfunctional sibling relationship

>>282215527
You can literally see that in Gaza

>>282219198
where they have loud violent sex