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why is Orihime like this?

ishida will never register as a male

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>>282266630
I thought that he was the toughest sternritter to deal with.

>>282266713
And I am the hardest whole dealing with picrel

>>282267112
>Giselle
>Giselle

>>282266134 (OP)
sex

>>282266134 (OP)
Test to register sex friends, one passing the test was her boss.

>>282266134 (OP)
she is a whore, abused by dad when she was a child and daughter of prostitute.
she is gonna be messed up in some areas specially if has no moral values (or just a few picked from tatsuki after she met her a few years before anime started).

>>282266134 (OP)
Imagine the yeast fueld braps from Orihime

>Tons of great art of Orihime with Ichigo's dad
You know I don't even hate it because I have always been into age gaps, and it would make sense that he would fall for someone who looks so much like his late wife, and she would have some powerful daddy/older male issues.
I just hate is always some NTR shit, instead of an alternative timeline where Rukia ended up the main love interest.
Beats she ending up with Chad or Ishida at least.
Plus would be hilarious if Ichigo's step mom was his classmate.

Genuine answers only, would you marry Orihime? Yeah I get that you prefer Rukia, but she isn't an option in this question.

>>282268464
>Fit older Dilf and curvy JK
Why is it such a hot pairing?

>>282268464
>I just hate is always some NTR shit
is not like kubo wasn't winking at that with orihime always arriving with chad at school at morning or her boss being a fat ugly bastard.

>>282268558
shutup faggot just say old man with JK as normal people and don't try to get your faggot friends here.

>>282268611
Chad was a bro, but he never seemed to show any interest in Orihime, would nave been fine if he did and Ichigo ended up with Rukia though.

>>282268748
ahh ichiruki fag, you still promoting your shit.
not minding NTR rukia does make great NTR material specially the whole flat chested body.

>>282268464
Isshin can have Orihime, so long as Ichigo can have the other the Bambis. I actually like IsshinHime with the thought of Ichigo's wife having good conversations with Orihime about their days and marriage

>>282268826
LOL

>>282268951
Which of the Bambis would be the best aunt to Kazui.

>>282266134 (OP)
Does Kazui go through Orihime's panty drawe?

>>282266134 (OP)
cause she lived on her own from age 11-18

>>282268951
>Ichigo has to deal with this walking around the house in her underwear in the mornings and making out with his dad and being very lovey dovey
>Ichigo's sister have quickly completely accepted her and treat her like their actual mom
>Timeskip where Isshin has already impregnated her several times before Ichigo even gotten serious with a girl
I will accept this timeline

>>282268464
>just hate is always some NTR shit,
>Instead of a alternate timeline of ntr
Hmm.

>>282269644
>Different universes where events play out differently is NTR
You are retarded

>>282269279
I said Ichigo with his own girl, not without one.

>The exorcist
>Ichigo

>>282271189
Is Lille Barro a sternritter?

>>282271212
Yes.

>>282267320
What are vowels?

>>282271189
Was Muken designed to hold Aizen as a prisoner from soul society??

>>282271305
Technically Aizen is not a prisoner

>>282271323
Which means that Muken was meant for other criminals

>>282271189
>Ichigo
>Szayelaporro

>Demon Slayer gets a movie
>Chainsaw Man gets a movie
>Everyone is talking about those movies and other anime like Dandadan
>No one cares about Bleach anymore
What went wrong?

>>282271640
Kubo refused to listen to his editors because of NPD and killed all of it's potential.

>>282268826
I wish I could care as much about Bleach as you do, Anon.

>>282268748
Shame Maxi uses his powers for evil

>>282271658
elaborate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fu9ym-EtCE&list=RD6fu9ym-EtCE&start_radio=1&pp=ygUPbmlnaHRtYXNyZSB0eWJ3oAcB

>>282266134 (OP)
She wants to attract older men while Ichigo is away.

>>282268558
It's hotter if it's cheating and they are in-law.

>>282266134 (OP)
>orihime
made for....

>>282271189
…

He makes my pussy wet

>>282272764
I never noticed how fucking huge the crossguard on his sword got in this form.

>>282268558
The bread girl

IchiHina

>>282266134 (OP)
What if Rukia had huge tits and Orihime was flat but nothing else changed?

>>282274517
I think it could be fun, if nothing else. Orihime would be less popular, but maybe at most by half what it currently is. Maybe even her haters would talk more about her personality.
For Rukia, she'd definitely be an even more obvious pick for Ichigo and we'd have all the casual jockbro viewers be Ichiruki as a result. It would be fun to have her border on being a proper shortstack and to be the recipient of more "sexual harassment jokes." I think one of the only times is when she steps on Kon and he looks up her skirt (lucky bastard).

>>282274832
>Kon looking up her skirt

>>282274517
rukia is just a brat and will never become a woman no matter what.
that's the opposite of Orihime.

>>282266134 (OP)
>yfw we never got the Ichihimerukirirunel harem ending
Feels bad bros. Ichigo deserved four wives, easily.

>>282275109
Word.

>>282275109
*Orihime deserves one husband and three wives
fix'd

>>282275337
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>282275349
Whatever works.

Beep beep, best ship coming through

>>282275109
1 wife of each race for the Soul King Heir. Only a combo of wives: A Shinigami, a Quincy, a Hollow and a Fullbring can satiate his thirst.

Yummy

>>282275965
you're not using race correctly

>>282271925
Not like it changes something since his stuff is unfindable on the web for free.

>For years thought all of Ichigo's fights tended to end with him and his opponent clashing cloaked in their spiritual energy
Turns out that only happens when he fights Zaraki and Byakuya and both times Ichigo kinda lost the clash, vs Zaraki he fell to the ground with a "Sorry..guys" and passed out Zaraki fell shortly afterwards, against Byakuya he couldn't even stand anymore while Byakuya could still go if he wanted to but Ichigo's ideals won over Byakuya's stubbornness.

Why did I think he ended a lot more fights that way for years?

For clarification

VS Ikkaku
he slashed him across the chest and in the process broke his zanpakuto
VS Renji
Ichigo ended it by swinging down right in front of Renji causing a point blank getsuga tensho before he knew the name

Vs Yammy his hollow interfered and he had to be saved by Urahara and Yorouchi
Vs Grimmjow, Tosen interfered
Vs his hollow he took his own sword and stabbed him with it
Vs Grimmjow 2 his hollow mask ran out and he got his hands pinned to the ground and had to be saved by Rukia and Shinji
Vs Doradonii he slashed him across the chest in his hollowfied bankai state enough to stop him but not kill him instead he lost his life to the exquitas before being revived by Mayuri

Vs Ulquiorra stabbed in the heart and left to die revived by Orihime
Vs Grimmjow stabbed in the gut and sat down on the ground before getting jumped by Nntoria

Vs Nntoria to weak to defend himself to Tesla took over to beat him to death before being saved by Zaraki

vs Ulquiorra shot through the heart with a cero his hollow revived him and killed ulquiorra

Vs Gin, the fight was interrupted by Aizen through Ichigo had lost the will to fight by then anyway.

Vs Aizen, Urahara's seal activated after he ate Mugetsu

>>282271640
Bleach is getting a movie announcement at Jump Festa.

Further clarification

In the fullbring arc he never gets a full fight as a fullbringer but I'll list them anyway

Vs Mr.Pork he fires off a getsuga like attack ending the battle

vs Tsukishima the fight is interrupted by xcution and Chad

Vs Ginjou training the battle stops once Ichigo's unnamed fullbring is fully awakened as an exosuit with a short sword I hated this design,bro,Ichigo doesn't look right with a short sword.

Vs Tsukishima 2, the battle is interrupted after Ichigo cuts off his arm,Orihime restores it, Chad throws him out the window and Ginjou attacks him from behind.

Vs Ginjou, Ichigo slashes Ginjou across the chest after dismissing his hero like attack which kills him

Vs Ebern, Ebern attempts to steal his bankai fails and retreats
Vs Opie, Ichigo is on the verge of defeating him when the battle is interrupted for him to assist soul society but he gets sealed in the dangai and Opie is killed from behind by Grimmjow

Vs Yhwach
Ichigo is defeated and his bankai broken,Yhwach retreats

Vs Bambies
Ichigo severes Candices arm with a Getsuga Jujisho and the battle is interrupted by the other Shinigami

Vs Yhwach 2 anime only
Ichigo is losing but the battle is interrupted by Uryu

Vs Uryu anime only
Ichigo is shot through the side by Uryu and defeated

Vs Aksin
Ichigo is defeated by his 'Gift bad" technique and saved by Yorouchi

Vs Uryu 2
the battle is stopped when Uryu reveals his intentions and starts to fight Hashwald

Vs Ywach 3
Ichigo's bankai and hollowfication are defeated and his bankai broken but is restored by Tsukishima

Vs Ywach 4
Ichigo bisects Ywach with a getsuga tensho after Uryu fires the arrow that stops his powers in bankai

Yeah the clashes only happened for byakuya and zaraki yet i swear I remember it happening more than once probably filler villains

>>282268393
is this actually true? for some reason i find it endearing when mentally broken people learn morality later down the road

>>282278557
He's only telling a half truth, the truths
Abused by the father daughter of a whore
not true she did not pick up her morality or lack of modesty from them, she was too young to even remember her parents faces Sora took her and fled the household because he feared his shitty parents would end up killing Orihime at some point and it's been them two as long as she could remember, Orihime was bullied in junior high and hid that from her brother and one day they had an argument and later that same day he had been hit by a driver who opted to flee the scene instead of trying to help his victim, Orihime carried Sora's body to the Kurosaki clinic but they were unable to save his life and he died, Orihime's hairpins are the last thing he bought for her so she always wears them to remember him by even in adulthood you can still see them in some of Kubo's drawnings.

In the pilot of the series Orihime's father did end up killing her funny enough kinda like Sora temporary killed Orihime as Acidwire

I wish I could have experienced Bleach when the arrancar arc was new, with how brutal the shipping wars apparently were I wonder how people reacted to the 'He's my Ichigo again" line, like you don't get more clear than that, the anime made it pretty damn clear she was endgame too because at that point she takes his hand, they look at each other and then look at the camera as it fades out and they cut to a filler arc.

>>282274832
It's funny how no one did one with Orihime's face on Rukia body. Maybe because it would look bad

>>282274934
Funny you write that, since Orihime is the one that acts like a child

>>282278776
People argued Arrancar was meant to solidify IR by showing how terrible Orihime is for him by comparison (fearing his mask, going back on her promise to get stronger & not rely on him, begging his corpse to save her, having a moment with Ulquiorra, the arc ending with Ichigo sharing a moment with Rukia, etc.)

>>282266134 (OP)
>Ichigo's outfit on KlubOutside worn by Kubo

>>282279083
>people got bleach wrong
it shows how caring ichigo towards orihime, and how kind orihime is
also orihime fearing hollow is in accordance with ichigo disliking the hollow inside him

>>282279547
Wasn't there supposed to be a plot about Orihime being brainwashed? That's why Ulquiorra notices even Ichigo had some doubts about her loyalty. Anyway, for an IH arc it was really bad. Orihime is inconsistent and annoying and even holds Ichigo back. When it comes down to it's the Hollow who wins the battles for him, not Orihime.

>Reio
>Reiokyu

>>282279756
Reiokyu.

>Reio is my father
>Reio

>>282271189
>Grand Fisher

>>282280079
>Fracciones
>Fracción

He is my love, my life my passion.

>>282280875
What are fracciones?

>>282278380
Where did you get that from? I see zero official announcements.

https://youtu.be/i9aKX4zWK7M?si=3liLsmN0V8kKUT8W&t=66

Kino scene.

>>282281670
>ICHIGO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ALONE COME BACK SAFELY FUCK EVERYONE ELSE
Typical Trashhime. What a worthless character. It's only fitting Ichigo's biggest simp who worships him won the strawberry bowl. Even Chad of all people has dared to talk back against him.

>>282271640
>gets a movie
Nigger, do you even know how many movies Big 3 had in their prime? Zoomer shounens are just embarassing.

>>282281693
>FUCK EVERYONE ELSE
Based Orihime

>>282281693
You missed the ending where she caught Ichigo's friends with her shield out of hell but only had a sign of relief when she saw Ichigo's face.

>>282281704
Shit character, as I said.
>>282281759
Good point.

>>282281698
Bleach only had 4 movies.
Naruto and One Piece outclass Bleach in that department.
Even Psycho Pass has more movies than Bleach.

>>282281693
>>282281804
Orihime was supposed to have more dialogue in that scene, but Pierrot cut it out to make her look bad. Typical agenda-pushing.

Fullbring > TYBW

>>282282014
Is this even debatable? Everyone with a triple-digit IQ who paid attention to the series knows the proper order is Every other arc > Fullbringer > TYBW. People who say TYBW is the best Bleach arc are retards not worth giving your time to.

More interesting to debate which is best among the the other three (Substitute Shinigami, Soul Society, Arrancar) since I think there's some merit to having Arrancar as #1 over SS, which is the typical opinion.

>>282266134 (OP)
I cant find his new drawings nowhere not even kemono, does anyone know a mega or smth?

>>282282075
>please care about my debate fetish

>>282282075
SS is a clean and fun arc with a nice twist and hook at the end. Doesn't have the boring Privaron fights and especially the slog that is FKT. Nor does it have retarded reveals like the 0 Espada reveal or dropped plot points like Orihime plan to reject the Hogyoku. Speaking of her, she was far more tolerable in SS. She turns into this whiny bitch in Arrancar and drags Ichigo's character down with her. Don't get me started on how retarded it is to remove the MC's powers and NOT end the series, since everyone knows by that point he's going to get them back, therefore cheapening Ichigo's sacrifice.

Dunno how you can fairly argue Arrancar > SS. Maybe if you split it into its subarcs like Arrancar Invasion, HM and FKT?

>>282279448
>>282279464
I always liked how some bleach artwork and the opening and endings were /fa/. I don’t even like fashion but I think it’s important to make your characters cool

>>282282075
Fullbring was also more popular than TYBW because of the era it was apart of. And It's manga sales didn't drop as low as TYBW.

>>282282197
>Don't get me started on how retarded it is to remove the MC's powers and NOT end the series
I said the same thing, who the fuck would continue a story where the MC LOSES HIS POWERS IN A MUTHERFUCKING SHONEN. I don't give a fuck about the copers on here, Bleach was obviously suppose to end after Aizen.

>>282282325
I think the issue is there's too many loose threads to finish the manga with Aizen's defeat. But Kubo could've just had Narita make a novel and end it at that, like he did with CFYOW, that was meant to cover all the plot holes and stuff.

>>282278733
Let me guess anime only don't.
The manga makes it clear her mom was a prostitute, the manga clearly states she was being abused by her dad but not in which way it was (either physically or sexually is unknown) which was the reason her older brother took her and ran away.
While orihime was picked on (and tatsuki defending her) it was what made it possible for her to get some friends, probably because of her huge breasts and not wearing underwear (is unknown but wouldn't be weird at all).
By the moment bleach starts orihime older brother has been dead for 4 years, with orihime being friend of tatsuki for 5 years, so she had little to no moral compass despite the little bits tatsuki kinda forced on her.
>busy brother working overtime
>no parents guidance
>living alone 4 years
You get a recipe for disaster on morality since she would care more about surviving then practicality kinda similar to mai from mai hime that is kinda similar in certain points to orihime.
Let's see mai
>moral almost 0.
>will do any kind of job as long gets her money to live.
>started wearing bra when she reached 14 but only because school forced her to buy several.
>didn't mind going no bra or nopan since it was too expensive.
>parents dead since she was 9 years.
I can see orihime going nobra if it means she get some food.
Then we have the "oops i forgot tatsuki thaught me boys and girls can't undress on same room" something she seems to keep doing despite her age.
There is no pilot just the oneshot which is contest entry manga that can be published and you get lot of stuff in jump.

>>282282075
>People who say TYBW is the best Bleach arc are retards not worth giving your time to.
I'm sure that's just an astroturfing campaign to promote the new season to casuals on the internet. Despite that, Bleach has no where near the numbers it use to have during the original anime run where criticism was allowed. As someone who use to have a much easier time finding local Bleachfags in real life, the drop off is sad. Hell, I wouldn't even be here or caring about Bleach if I didn't get a random kick of nostalgia to watch the old show. I had zero clue there was a cour 3 and I was heavily involved in general anime circles.

>>282282392
There’s still too many loose threads in TYBW. It would’ve been better off a novel because all we got were subpar unpopular content and FKT 2.0.

>>282282423
>either physically or sexually is unknown
Read the manga again. It's literally said they would beat her (殴り is the verb used in the original). Nothing sexual is implied (she was literally not even toddler my dude, she was 3 when Sora took her away). Not even worth engaging your other headcanon stuff.

>>282282075
I remember finishing the Fullbring arc kind of satisfied and was sad to see it end. When TYBW happened in the manga, holy fuck I wanted that shit to be put out of it's misery. All I did was skim chapters towards the end and stopped following weekly because it was so boring to read and frankly stupid. That Kenpachi Unohana thing made me roll my eyes. Where the fuck did this plot point come from? And where the fuck is Ichigo? Why are we wasting several pages on these godawful fights with these forgettable villain? This shit was so bad that I forgot Yhwach and the sternritters existed after a long timegap. And I managed to finish every single filler in the old anime, including the bounts.

>>282266134 (OP)
Unyu wouldn't have betrayed Ichigo if he got a piece of that.

>>282282908
Wasn't it strongly implied he crushed on Orihime? Wonder why did Kubo abandon that with no resolution.

>>282282947
Maybe Kubo decided Uryu would be gay/asexual instead.

>>282282947
>>282282971
He was mad fans hated the Orihime-centric arc so he just killed all the ship tease he had with her previously and then drew more Orihime to spite them
>Ulquiorra dead and buried
>Uryuu's fondness for her disappears
>Rukia stops showing up as much
>Orihime and Rukia get stapled to Ichigo's and Renji's hips in TYBW
He also did that hilarious setup where Riruka crushed on Ichigo but that's taken rather seriously even if Ichigo is completely unaware while Shishigawara infatuation on Orihime is completely ignored and treated purely comedically/as immature as he gets written out after FB. The intent was clearly was to show how hot and cool are his hero and heroine but Kubo didn't have the balls to give even a sliver of a competition to Ichigo lmao

>>282283065
Btw, that's also why I think Chizuru gets written out. It would be awkward to have her butt in with her sexual harassment of Orihime's tits if Kubo wants to seriously develop IH (he shat the bed with that anyway).

>>282283065
I think Kubo fucked up here. I really think he should've made IchiRuki work somehow and cut 90% of these filler side character fights that would've erased the slog of the manga and give the most popular ship their due. Instead, Bleach ended up a trainwreck that had over 600 chapters to expand on lore but he wasted it on fodder characters fighting.

>>282283065
>>282283101
What are these insane headcanons? I can maybe accept Uryuu but in what world were Ulquiorra let alone Moe rivals of Ichigo for Orihime's love? The reason he started writing out Rukia is simple: Ichigo can't see her so she's gone for most of Fullbringer and when she comes back it's all fulfill the full circle of their relationship by giving him the power to protect again. Y'know, since their relationship is about partnership/mentorship. That's why her development in TYBW has nothing to do with Ichigo; for all intents and purposes she's done with him.
>>282283179
Samefagging won't help you, IRtard.

>>282283244
I'm not an IRfag I'm just looking at what could've possibly helped Bleach out. And it's just just shipping, I just know that Ichiruki had a bigger fanbase than the other ships. You think I like watching one my favorite series fall apart and spam a bunch of literal who fights to fill up runtime?

>>282282565
Why you didn't post the original japanese page? Could it be because it proved that was ambiguous about orihime abuse.
We know he beated the crap of sora that is crystal clear.

>>282283292
Do you fuckers just ignore Renji or something? Remember when Ichigo threw Rukia at him and told him to never let go of her again? Or how Ichigo is fine with Rukia staying in SS? They are friends. There is nothing romantic about their relationship. Kubo even had to spell it out for you retards in 2008.

He was already writing IH and RR, and wasn't going to change his story due to "popularity". Bet idiots would've still called him a hack if he did that just to appease your seethe.

>>282283353
Kubo is called a hack because his subpar writing with a lack of oversight is what caused bleach to consistently run itself into a corner and lack of good worldbuilding.
>and wasn't going to change his story due to "popularity".
He needs to do something that people like as Bleach's horrible lore and repetitive fights isn't good enough. Instead none of Ichigo's friends feel like friends, the relationships are extremely hollow and rushed. He introduces new characters galore instead of expanding on previous plot points.

>>282283353
Renji is a good character by himself. His “romance” with Rukia is garbage and thin.

>>282282014
Lol.
https://youtu.be/iEq1q1D94II

>>282283413
Don't change the subject. You said making IR canon would've helped Bleach as your main argument.
>>282283446
His story is strongly overlapped with Rukia's. And it's not platonic. Just read his fight with Ichigo ffs. Stray dog and the white moon. I would argue outside of his rivalry with Byakuya and later friendship with Ichigo, there is little going for his character besides Rukia. Similar with how Orihime has Sora, Tatsuki and that's it I guess. It's all about Ichigo. How did you not expect them to be the endgame, is beyond me.

I'm watching Demon Slayer because of all the hype and box office spam, TYBW is nowhere near the animation of Demon Slayer, in fact the direction and music choice and timing is 10x superior. What the fuck was pierrot talking about? Imagine trying to copy something where you don't the foresight or the talent to do so. All that remains is a cheap copy that loses the uniqueness of what made the og animated Bleach work out.
>>282283476
That animation, the red sky, the music in mix with the overall look is horrible. Who directed this???

>>282283511
I didn’t change the subject, re-read it.
> He needs to do something that people like as Bleach's horrible lore and repetitive fights isn't good enough.

>>282283538
To be fair, Bleach doesn't have the retarded flashback spam that kills KnY's spam. Not every villain needs a backstory, especially when most of them sob stories revealed just as/shortly before they died. I know Bleach did retarded shit like having Ulquiorra's backstory in a databook not everyone knows about, but Kubo was quite economical with this stuff and used his panel/pages wisely.

>>282283596
>He needs to do something that people like as Bleach's horrible lore and repetitive fights isn't good enough.
On the flop side, flashbacks would've helped fleshout all these bland side characters in Bleach. Drawing some emotion is better than not feeling anything at all.
> I know Bleach did retarded shit like having Ulquiorra's backstory in a databook
You know damn well that would've helped Ulquiorra's character moreso.

>>282283579
What does IR have to do with this? You think making that canon would've changed the horrible lore and repetitive fights? And you'd need to resolve Orihime's/Renji's love too, or give them a different partner. It would basically be character assassination. Horrible writing.

>>282283596
KnY's pacing*
>>282283634
Didn't people complain about the Shunsui & Nanao stuff in the manga? I think it was okay in the anime.

>>282283636
I said making Ichiruki canon AND cutting most of the fights.

>>282283663
Okay man, tell me what fights would you cut. I assume you just kill characters in FKT or something to make that happen. How would you give them satisfying deaths too, so they don't feel like numbers.

>>282283693
I’m not going through an entire long list of fights to cut, you know damn well what I mean. FKT was shit upon for this reason.

>>282283658
>Didn't people complain about the Shunsui & Nanao stuff in the manga? I think it was okay in the anime.
People complained about the asspull sword, but them having flashbacks is good for the characters. It was just placed in the middle of a shitty fight with a shitty antagonis, should've been done somewhere else. As for the fight itself, the only good thing is Shunsui's bankai which the anime fucked up with all those puke colors.

Fullbring should've only had Ginjo as the new character. It was the perfect opportunity for Ichigo to learn more skills now that he actually had time to train skillfully and buildup a stronger relationship with friends like Renji and Rukia. Ichigo could've learned Kido along with new sword techniques. Where's Isshin or Kisuke? Why not build it up around them along with Karin and Yuzu? Tatsuki got wasted again. The biggest enemy of Bleach is Kubo himself with his character fetish.

>>282283832
Kubo wanted Tsukishima to fulfill his Ichigo suffering porn quota. I agree Ichigo's skillset is super boring and he really could've used more stuff (he can make Ceros but no Kido? wtf?). Isshin and Kisuke were jerking each other off or smth, idk. The dropped plot line with Karin is so stupid. And Tatsuki was wasted the moment she didn't get powers; I've had people unironically tell me that was a good thing and there was no reason for her to join the main cast, which is just retarded to me. She had a much better connection with both Ichigo and Orihime than anyone else, and it's a shame how that potential is wasted.

>>282283740
>asspull sword
Nanao was never shown with a Zanpakuto and her family name literally references a Shinto shrine in Japan famous for its Sacred Mirror artefact.

This shit is why you need a high IQ to understand Kubo's writing.

>>282283730
so you're just being disingenuous and don't actually care

>>282284018
I already knew that dipshit, that doesn't make the fight any less ass or an asspull. And oh look a character they so happened to fight is countered by this niche shit. The fight was peak poor writing.

>>282284018
Ipetgoat is full of symbolism, that doesn’t make the video any less retarded.

>>282284165
>>282284212
It's not an asspull because Kubo already set up there is something more to Nanao that's very likely related to her sword and the IRL connection to the shrine that bears her surname. And lo and behold, that does come up.

Bet you guys are the same retards not understanding the foreshadowing Kubo did with Unohana and call the Kenpachi reveal an asspull.

>>282284254
Again, I already know this shit. It's still an asspull sword and very convenient because the enemy they just so happen to fight is countered by this garbage. It's trash and boring.

>>282284304
>Nanao's godly artefact counters... a god?
>This cannot be! Aspull!
You are clearly too young/narrow-minded to understand subtlety. You are only capable of seeing things through a single perspective.

>>282284353
>>282284391
And there it goes, the Kubo worshipper defending shitty fights. Bleach is fucked.

>>282284353
>defends an asspull sword
Holy cope, touch grass man.

>>282284428
>>282284463
Please tell me how is it an asspull when I literally explained to you the foreshadowing. Do I need to break it down for you or... ? You think just randomly made Lille godly when facing off against Shunsui for zero reason? Or that he's the only Shinigami with two swords besides Ukitake while his Lieutenant is swordless?

>>282283933
Ichigo didn't master a single one of his powers in the series. He can have thousands of new abilities because of his genetics but Kubo didn't bother or care to do anything with it. Lazy motherfucker.

>>282283693
Not than anon, but there are a ton of fights he could have cut in fake karakura town arc. The quincies shouldn't have been the whole alphabet, it was a retarded idea. Masks fight was stupid you could have shown renji use his bankai against ishida like in the anime. The bambies are overrated, they only get one real fight that is against ichigo, and even then, the anime had to extend it cause it was that lackluster. Robert and Nanana are useless. I don't think even the anime showed Nananas death, they offscreened him. The list goes on.

I feel asleep watching cour 2 and 3.

>>282267320
Za Asu man

Yhwach absolutely destroys the emotional buildup of Ichigo's mothers death in the grandfisher fight. Kubo is a fucking idiot.

>>282284873
To be fair, that shit was pretty bad pre-TYBW too. Ichigo's fight with Grand Fisher is unresolved, he reappears as a pseudo-Arrancar and Isshin unceremoniously kills him off, and that shit is never brought up again. Trauma gone, I guess?

>>282284940
The fight in the anime, manga, and OVA is very emotionally charged unlike TYBW which tries but does nothing but make the story worse.
And Ichigo didn't know about Grandfisher coming back as some arrancar abomination
Isshin killing him still seems right because, idk that's his fucking wife he killed.
All I am saying that getting slashed in two by both the father and son feels right.

Yhwach coming in the picture ruined anything before it.

Grand Fisher? Lmao.

>>282285059
I know it's stupid to bring Yhwach into this, but he actually gives closure to his complex about his mother's death (the rain & shit). Without Yhwach, you'd basically need to have Isshin give Ichigo a talk as he says something like "Oh yeah, that Grand Fisher guy? Sorry lad, I wasn't there since my Shinigami powers hadn't recovered, but I killed him, so it's all fine now." I can understand why Kubo didn't want that. But it's also quite stupid how he HAD to tie Yhwach to Ichigo to give him a personal reason for fighting him, so it's cathartic when he finally cuts him down. Why do that when his goal is to destroy the worlds he cares about is good enough alone?

>>282285130
Your comment makes no sense, dude.

>>282285130
Maybe because Yhwach is a bad character with bad writing, and gives no emotional closure to anything.

>>282285130
You do realize we got the worst of both worlds, right? Ichigo STILL doesn't know Grand Fisher is dead (the anime could've had Isshin mention it, but Kubo and the staff are retarded) and we have this asspull villain butting into Ichigo's trauma and "resolving" it by killing his mother's real killed all along (and Uryuu's too, just to make that arc about him too).
>the rain & shit
That crap remains unresolved to the very end. Ichigo still views the rain as a bad thing (unlike his parents) because Kubo didn't bother to change his perception of it. He's only not bothered because he has power, but as soon as he's powerless he turns into a brooding mess. It's also why Orihime wanting to be the rain that connects hearts is so retarded, considering how that philosophy clashes with her husband's so hard.

Kubo sucks at writing. This clown is proof why editorial inference is needed.

Ichigo's trauma was never resolved. His obsession with protection stems from the day he failed to protect his mother as a child.

>>282285266
It's so frustrating because Bleach could've been a masterpiece, far above Naruto and even better than One Piece if that NPD retard listened to advice from competent editors.

You know what's FUCKING HILARIOUS? The anime filler RESOLVED Ichigo's trauma with his mother. Yet Kubo with his fuck ass piece of shit fodder fight obsession couldn't.

>>282285443
What episode is that from?

>>282285405
Yep. I think Bleach has great themes, amazing style and art, potential Buddhist worldbuilding and concepts, but Kubo ruined all of it's potential. He's a stuck up fashion designer who just happened to write a manga.

>>282285335
>>282285443
Don't worry guys, Kubo will fix it by having Masaki in Hell and she'll face Ichigo and it will be super angsty and well-written. He did say Quincies "end up somewhere else" in that Klub Outside answer.

>>282285520
Nah he rather write new characters that ugly annoying gyaru bitch

>>282285553
Kubo's character fetish is insane. How many living Shinigami are there? Like dozens of them no? There are the Vizards too. Why the fuck do you need to make new VCs in a FUCKING ONE SHOT instead of using the character you ALREADY HAVE.

>Bleachfags complain about Kubo focusing too much on the side characters and not enough on the main cast
>meanwhile Narutofags complain about Kishimoto focusing too much on the Uchihas and Naruto's gay drama with Sasuke instead of the Konoha 11 and others
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. You can't win with these retards.

>>282285623
Because Kubo is a fucking idiot with an incurable illness. People with NPD stay like that till the day they die. His ass should've drawn while someone else with a normal function brain wrote the story.

>>282285623
If you think Kubo has a character fetish you clearly haven't read One Piece lol

>>282285695
>Narutofags complain about Kishimoto focusing too much on the Uchihas and Naruto's gay drama with Sasuke instead of the Konoha 11 and others
Watching both, I'm sure as hell glad Kishimoto didn't go the Kubo route. Holy. Fucking. Shit. It's better off that way. Narutofags don't realize how lucky they are.

>>282285729
One Piece has massive adventure worldbuilding to accommodate that.

>>282285745
And Bleach does not? Every arc is about a new faction and learning new lore.

>>282285772
No Bleach has very underdeveloped worldbuilding. It's not even close to one piece, if you think it is then Idk what to say more to you.

Anyone remember this completely irrelevant fuck? Why even introduce him when does LITERALLY NOTHING when Shunsui shortly takes over the Head Captain position with Nanao as VC?

The rain as a symbolism in Bleach is used broadly, reducing it to just Ichigo being depressed is genuinely ignorant. We have examples of Orihime's view of the rain, "connecting two hearts", in the manga such as when Isshin is having a heart to heart with Ichigo on Masaki's death anniversary or when Ichigo's parents met in the rain. It also is entwined with the whole heart motif present throughout the story.

>>282285804
ERRRR KUBO FORGOT

Several bleach threads in a row died without any activity, why did you decide to samefag this one in particular schizo?

>>282285867
If you actually had reading comprehension, you'd realize anons complained about Ichigo's trauma being unresolved, and part of that involves not changing his view of the rain. The rain is not broadly viewed as a good thing except in Orihime's case. It's consistently viewed as a symbol of despair. That's why it rains when Ulquiorra releases, to foreshadow the overwhelming despair he (and Orihime too) will suffer. And the heart motif is not entwined in the story, wtf are you talking about. You have exactly five characters for whom it is important: Rukia, Kaien, Orihime, Ulquiorra, Komamura. That's it.

Rukia should NOT be given tits

Uhh do you guys think it would've been better to cut some of the espada too? It could've been just Ichigo and friends going there.

>>282286339
The Privaron and Zommari definitely could've been cut. Aaroniero also solely exists as a plot device to bring back Kaien and resolve Rukia's trauma with him (which is why I think Kubo is capable of doing a similarly retarded setup with Masaki in Hell) and Yammy is a similarly pointless character who only gets some development through his (barely there) relationship with Ulquiorra and Kukkapuro, the latter of which you'd only even learn about if you read the short story from Unmasked.

>>282286416
Dordoni's fight was pretty good. It was to teach Ichigo to not be afraid to use bankai and finish off his enemies (even if Kubo deleted this development later on) and Aaroniero was used to flesh out Rukia's past with Kaien.

>>282285975
I literally gave you two examples of the rain being used in a non-negative way that don't involve Orihime but do resonate with her view of the rain.
>And the heart motif is not entwined in the story, wtf are you talking about
How can you even read the manga and come out with this conclusion? Kubo wasn't even being subtle, the "Hearts" (bonds) people share and forge with each other through different circumstances, from Ichigo meeting Rukia or his fight with Aizen when he could read his feelings, "The Heart" is not just a meme page after Ulquiorra's death. It's Kubo spelling out the theme of Bleach.

>>282286472
>even if Kubo deleted this development later on
Oh yeah, remember how he called out to Candice to dodge his Getsuga Jijusho? So fucking retarded. This bitch just fried dozens of Shinigami to death and has probably done even worse off-screen. And Ichigo clearly couldn't give less of a shit about the Sternritter, considering how he obliterated Shaz. But Kubo has him do this retarded shit. Typical bad writing. Although I think it's just Kubo's pussy pass in action.

>>282266134 (OP)
she's just a lil weird

>>282286528
Idk how the fuck Kubo can forget Ichigo's anger when in the SAME ARC HE WAS VERY AGRESSIVEAND WAS IN BANKAI IN FULLBRING. All of sudden his personality takes a 180 and he doesn't want to hurt no one. Where's the foreshadowingfags at? He can somehow plan one thing from 200 chapters back but can't keep track of a simple character trait within the same damn arc??

>>282286528
Ichigo’s fight with Dordoni comes full circle with Ichigo killing Ginjo and showing a lack of mercy. Where the fuck did that killing drive go?

>>282286508
Except Isshins's and Masaki's relationship ends up bittersweet due to Isshin's sacrifice and later as tragic due to Masaki's death. Also, Isshin was literally talking about that tragic past to Ichigo. The only good thing about the rain is when Isshin and Masaki meet, and that still ends up with her infected by White. Nothing to do with Ichigo's view of it changing at all, which is my main gripe. If he gets fucked up, you bet your ass it's gonna start raining. If Kubo is smart, maybe we'll see a kiss between Ichigo and Orihime in the rain or something during Cour 4.
>How can you even read the manga and come out with this conclusion? Kubo wasn't even being subtle, the "Hearts" (bonds) people share and forge with each other through different circumstances, from Ichigo meeting Rukia or his fight with Aizen when he could read his feelings, "The Heart" is not just a meme page after Ulquiorra's death. It's Kubo spelling out the theme of Bleach.
Lmao, talking about Ichigo and Aizen sharing a heart is almost as retarded as the moment between Ulquiorra and Orihime. You do realize this is all for naught since she thinks of him again? Kaien left his heart with Rukia as he died and this is only resolved when she finally lets go by killing the fake Kaien. Meanwhile, Ulquiorra has zero legacy for Orihime (he's a forgotten bad nightmare to her). This shit was repurposed from Rukia's and Kaien's backstory and poorly at that. Thinking the heart is a theme of Bleach is stupid. It's something that only applies to those characters I've talked about, and it's not even consistent (Komamura throws his heart away for revenge like Tousen did, for example).

>>282286508
Except Isshins's and Masaki's relationship ends up bittersweet due to Isshin's sacrifice and later as tragic due to Masaki's death. Also, Isshin was literally talking about that tragic past to Ichigo. The only good thing about the rain is when Isshin and Masaki meet, and that still ends up with her infected by White. Nothing to do with Ichigo's view of it changing at all, which is my main gripe. If he gets fucked up, you bet your ass it's gonna start raining. If Kubo is smart, maybe we'll see a kiss between Ichigo and Orihime in the rain or something during Cour 4.
>How can you even read the manga and come out with this conclusion? Kubo wasn't even being subtle, the "Hearts" (bonds) people share and forge with each other through different circumstances, from Ichigo meeting Rukia or his fight with Aizen when he could read his feelings, "The Heart" is not just a meme page after Ulquiorra's death. It's Kubo spelling out the theme of Bleach.
Lmao, talking about Ichigo and Aizen sharing a heart is almost as retarded as the moment between Ulquiorra and Orihime. You do realize this is all for naught since she mever thinks of him again? Kaien left his heart with Rukia as he died and this is only resolved when she finally lets go by killing the fake Kaien. Meanwhile, Ulquiorra has zero legacy for Orihime (he's a forgotten bad nightmare to her) ; there is no heart left behind. There was a golden opportunity for Kubo to have her bring him up when she thinks about peace in those ruins with Chad, but Kubo is allergic to bad writing. This whole heart shtick was basically repurposed from Rukia's and Kaien's backstory and poorly at that. Thinking the heart is a theme of Bleach is stupid. It's something that only applies to those characters I've talked about, and it's not even consistent (Komamura throws his heart away for revenge like Tousen did, for example).

>>282286670
>>282286708
Ichigo must have a soft spot for women. Only logical explanation really.

>>282286801
Then what do you think is the theme of Bleach?

>>282282634
I had the fortune of reading the TYBW arc after the manga had finished, so I didn't have to wait for new chapters. But, holy shit, it was a massive slog and I also wound up skimming because it was hard to care about all these characters that were, quite frankly, less interesting than the usual ones in Bleach, as well as all the technicalities that made up the bulk of the "plot" in it ("ah, but did you know that the condition for my power is actually more hyperspecific than you realized and that I'm about to pull an Uno Reverse on you because reasons?" "Heh. Jokes on you, my new abilities actually activate when you unleash your hidden techniques and will end you the moment you try something." "Ha! You're bluffing!" "We'll see about that!" "Raaaa!" "Hyaaaa!" etc etc).
Even with that, I didn't realize that it is the single biggest/longest contiguous Bleach arc in the whole series by a massive amount. Anyone who pushes the "he was rushed" angle needs to see this chart and revise their argument. He could've made it a lot more to the point, especially if he took a bit more time off the plan the thing (or maybe would discuss stuff collaboratively with his editors).

>>282286821
Nah even Yhwach tells him why do you use the word stop instead of kill or something like that. Which makes zero fucking sense when Ichigo killed before. It’s development erasure.

>>282286835
Death. Every single character grapples with it (or some other trauma). It's why the main duo of the series are Death and Strawberry. And the black and white symbolism too; bleaching your soul and all that stuff. It's in the name. Forcing the heart to be a consistent theme of Bleach is retarded when this is not consistently applied and you can easily overlap it with the nakama/friendship trope every single battle shounen in history emphasizes.

>>282286857
>Anyone who pushes the "he was rushed" angle needs to see this chart and revise their argument
That’s what I’ve been saying. No one forced Kubo to write 10 chapters of one stupid Mayuri fight. He wasn’t rushed, he just drew shit with no plan. Fullbring had more to the point content and that arc is short as fuck.

Friendly reminder that the Soul King was shown with his limbs intact in his first appearance (and had already been implied to be alive with how the Royal Guard previously talked about him). And the anime cut all this shit out lmao

It's 100% clear Kubo didn't plan shit. All the foreshadowing shit those Kubology idiots push is retroactive writing done by Kubo on the fly or hiatuses, which why it's so shit. They cope and make up this crap while Kubo's NPD ass affirms them because they only use Motivated Reasoning to understand this manga, which is not how you critically analyze literature AT ALL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivated_reasoning

>>282286999
How embarrassing.

>>282282197
>SS is a clean and fun arc with a nice twist and hook at the end.
It seemed pretty messy to me with its constant diversions to other characters' backstories and such, especially because the arc itself felt like it should have been just a "distraction" from the main plot. I mean, they went there to rescue Rukia, so why do I need to know the backstory of every fucking lieutenant and everyone's past and present relationships to each other and this fairly boring world (it's just a minimalist take on some Edo period stuff, like "slums," royal buildings, cpurtyard, palace, training grounds, a rocky section, and woodsy outdoors area)? As for the "twist," why the fuck should I care about some random captain getting murdered by (((someone)))? Does it interfere with the rescue plan in any way? Then, after all the extremely hard work and totally unexpected powerup (bankai), this slimey, smug asshole just invalidates all of it (by stopping Ichigo's bankai with one finger and zero effort) and then promises to be a bigger pain in everyone's side at some point in the (near-ish) future.
The arc felt very clunky, but with more stakes than the previous one, and took a lot of time meandering around all this stuff that I'm constantly asking *why* I'm supposed to care about it. But, it still delivered a lot of cool things and very memorable and fun characters, so it paid some of its "debt" through that (unlike TYBW, in my opinion).

Those newfags don't even know Kubo was setting up a good Captains vs bad Captains showdown in SS (you can see this remnant with the Kenpachi vs Tosen & Komamura fight) before he decided he should scapegoat it all on Aizen his two buddies to keep SS as the "good guys".

It's actually insane how he keeps trying to make them morally grey but all he does is clumsily whitewash them with his retarded writing. Mayuri's butchering of the Quincy and Uryuu's vendetta against him? Forgotten, not even brought up in TYBW. Ukitake betraying Ichigo's trust through the badge? Ichigo knew that all along and chooses him to trust him. Absolutely stupid.

>>282282565
>our mother was a whore
Does the Japanese mean she was an actual prostitute or just that she was a "loose woman" with shitty behavior?

>>282287210
淫売 is the word used, which is a very blatant term for prostitution "seller of obscenity/lewdness"

>>282286999
>Wikipedia
Damn, that article was cringe as hell to read. It spent half the time criticizing those darn "conspiracy theories," rather than focusing on more agnostic/less politically charged means of illustrating the concept.
>All the foreshadowing shit those Kubology idiots push is retroactive writing
Absolutely. Especially with Aizen and his "perfect plans," which just feel like utter bullshit. At least Rowling made her obsession with Chekov's Gun feel earned, while Kubo just uses Smuggy McSmug Asshole to "justify" how every little detail that made the first arc messy and interesting was actually part of a hypermeticulous plan to...cause the story to happen, I guess. So, even if Kubo did plan some things out, his execution is...iffy.

any bleach novels worth reading?

>>282286999
>>282288001
The issue with this line of thinking is that Kubo is clearly capable of planning/foreshadowing some stuff. For example the zombie Arrancar stiff is clearly foreshadowed since we actually see Cirucci's boots with the hanging figure Mayuri discovers, but who else gets revived is up to anyone's guess (Luppi fit with the hakama, but Dordoni and especially Charlotte were completely unexpected). Then there's stuff like Zangetsu-Yhwach connection where you can kinda see it but it's also reasonable he made new dots to connect during this >>282286857
break before TYBW (and even then, Yhwach's appearance changes and we see him talking about peace and how he hates violence at first; very different from how he turns into a moustache-twirling villain towards the end wanting to make Ichigo despair). Some stuff is completely "trust me bro"-tier, like Kubo claiming he wanted to end the manga with Ichigo's and Rukia's meeting (which I guess I can accept since IH was in the pilot, so that meant Rukia would eventually get a love interest too).

>>282288178
Ichigo's and Rukia's children meeting*

Can anyone link me to where I can get those Black and White manga editions?

>>282288244
Nevermind I found them, It's called Bleach remix.

>>282286801
>Meanwhile, Ulquiorra has zero legacy for Orihime (he's a forgotten bad nightmare to her) ; there is no heart left behind.
Their relationship was very superfial, they barely knew each other becasue they barely interacted. The meaning of "the heart" is simply to form a bond/relationship, no matter the duration or importance for each other, and in Orihime and Ulquiorra's case, that bond was very sort, only a few seconds where they become to connect.

>>282289435
*short

Did Barragan kill himself?