Thread 33289066

Why did I end up as a kissless dateless handholdless virgin at 30 years old, despite the fact that men much uglier/shorter/more autistic than me got dates and girlfriends with ease?

>>33289066 (OP)
You probably already know the answer.

because youre a neurotic narcissistic retard. now fuck off

>>33289074
I don't.

>>33289079
You have absolutely no idea who I am.

>>33289081
nor do i care. youre boring but you think youre unique or somehow special. youre nothing. you never will be. you will die alone. serves you right

>>33289081
>I don't.
Yes you do. Being in denial will not help you.

>>33289066 (OP)
Idk why. You tell me. It is your life.

>>33289087
I am unique. I am the only man in the world who has ended up a kissless dateless handholdless virgin entirely against his own will.

>>33289088
I truly don't. Can you enlighten me? Or else this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere.

>>33289097
Here. >>33289096
Are you one those guys that spends all their day inside their room playing games, and yet you still ask yourself why you can't get laid?

>>33289096
RAT
Is it yours?

>>33289066 (OP)
idk, what are your hobbies

>>33289102
Nope.

I spent 5 years at university and did everything possible socially.

I joined multiple clubs for activities I was interested in, I met literally 100s of people (mostly women due to the gender balance of university), I attended every party and social gathering I was invited to, and I dressed well, groomed myself well, kept myself in good shape etc.

None of it worked. I never once got a single instance of romantic attraction directed towards me from any woman, ever.

Meanwhile, I had friends who were fatter than me, shorter than me, dressed bad, smelled bad, were balding, etc, you name it, and every single one of them got dates and girlfriends without even trying.

It just doesn't make sense. It's just not fair.

>>33289108
if you havent noticed by now, life isnt fair dumbfuck. keep whining. nothing will change for you

>>33289108
Life usually isn’t fair, I’m sorry. All you can do is keep trying

>>33289108
This is so boring.

You're focused on what you find attractive in women and applying it to men. Mom issues

>>33289108
did you made any woman friends?

>>33289066 (OP)
I won't read what has to be a parody threads.

>>33289113
>>33289115
Well 4chan told me that "looks are all that matter" and "the better looking and taller guy will ALWAYS get the girl".

Why did you all fucking lie to me?

>>33289117
Some men are just objectively unattractive.

One of my friends at uni was noticeably balding at age 19, one of his front teeth was rotten, he was chubby, had a funny-looking face and glasses. Nobody in their right mind would've ever thought this man was attractive. On top of that, he had mental health issues and threatened to kill himself on multiple occasions. Yet somehow he got girlfriends and I didn't. How does that make any sense at all?

>>33289126
Because 4chan is a bunch of weirdos with skewed perspectives who haven’t considered that sometimes you might be an unlucky piece of shit. You can have almost everything going for you and still be unwanted. Welcome to being a man.

>>33289119
Yes, multiple.

And in general I knew a lot more women at uni than I did men.

>>33289135
did they give any advice on why you didnt have any success?

>>33289126
>Why did you all fucking lie to me?
Do you believe in everything having a singular truth? I have Jewish desert fairy tales to sell you.

>Yet somehow he got girlfriends and I didn't. How does that make any sense at all?
The grossest man I can think of, fat Asian and stinks of lactose intolerant farts, kept picking up chicks. It really is on a different metric than what gay dudes use.

>>33289140
I asked multiple of them and they had literally no idea what I was doing wrong.

One girl even looked at me with this confused look on her face, and said she assumed I was the kind of guy to have had lots of girlfriends.

Guy friends said the same too. I knew a couple guys who genuinely thought I was a "ladies man", despite the fact I was a kissless dateless virgin while they were guys who had multiple GFs, dates and lots of casual sex.

>>33289155
There’s no rhyme or reason to any of this once you’re in this kind of position. You just have to keep putting yourself out there until you either die or meet someone.

>>33289159
There is a reason. He's doing something wrong

>>33289159
There is no man on Earth who has put himself out there as much as I have without having ever had a single crumb of romantic interest from a woman.

Seriously. It is like women view me as a disgusting leper who isn't even worthy of existing in their presence.

>>33289159
there is 100% a reason, there is no way this guy met 100 women and not a single one had any interest in him.

>>33289171
>>33289169
>>33289166
Then he’s going after the wrong women or he’s lying about something.

>>33289174
I don't "go after" any women, because they never even give me the opportunity to "go after" them.

>>33289178
what is your worst rejection

>>33289180
When I was 16 years old I asked a girl on a date to the cinema and she initially said yes but rejected me a few days later. She also got her friend to send me messages berating me and accusing me of making her "physically sick with anxiety" because of asking her out.

That was the one and only time I ever asked a girl out. After that day I vowed never, ever to do that again because I simply cannot face that kind of life-destroying humiliation again.

>>33289178
So you’re not actively trying?

>>33289188
I actively try by putting myself out there and making myself available around women.

>>33289124
what is pic related from?

>>33289190
so what are you expecting to happen exactly? like in your mind what would a girl be interested in you look like

>>33289190
You know you have to pursue them and ask them out. You can’t just be there like some unc.

>>33289066 (OP)
Maybe just kinda bad luck, high standards, not networking, not refining oneself, not standing out, not engaging... Iunno

>>33289194
She would be showing visible signs of interest in me. Twirling her hair, laughing at things I say, touching me on the arm mid-conversation, smiling at me a lot, flirting with me.

No woman has ever done any of those things towards me, and I don't know why that is.

>>33289196
But other guys don't have to pursue girls. They just attend social occasions and women just gravitate towards them.

I asked all my guy friends who had GFs how they met their GFs and they all gave me the exact same answer:
>I was in *insert place here* doing *insert thing here*, then I met her and things just happened.

Why don't things ever "just happen" for me?

>>33289204
Bruhhhh just because some men don’t have to doesn’t mean you should follow, and for how many years bro.

You didn’t land dates because you never forced yourself through enough awkward rejections to build the basic social muscle others quietly grind on. The guys you envy simply kept showing up, learned to open conversations without overthinking, and created easy chances meetups, hobbies, even random bar chats. If you want a different result, treat flirting like a skill to practice, make small bets on talking to strangers every day, and you’ll start getting those “hand hold” moments too.

>>33289066 (OP)
Because you walk around unconsciously broadcasting signals of "Don't bother with me. I'm not worth your attention."

>>33289066 (OP)
>make an effort to be social/outgoing
>take care of yourself/workout
>have a job.
>actively pursue women
If you did these 4 things with vigor(not half assed) you wouldn’t be here. If you want to learn one thing from this, attack your problems and shortcomings with ferocity in the next decade of your life. It is not too late to change. Stop comparing yourself to others, for some blessed guys it may be easy. That said, for a lot of guys dating is a struggle. I can tell you for myself it took enormous effort to solve my dating problems. It was a struggle. Ultimately if you have a major deficiency in one domain of your life you will probably struggle to get girls unless you are really attractive (which is rare.)

>>33289108
>I attended every party and social gathering I was invited to,
You're not just supposed to attend, Anon. You actually have to make a move on a woman.

>>33289204
Most people aren’t analyzing or thinking about what is happening to them. Let me explain what “just happened” usually means.
>join a group organized around something you genuinely are interested in
>be friendly and outgoing
>be come well liked in the group for your competence and sociability
>maybe even organize events for the group
>this leads to social status
>women in the group are drawn to you
There’s other versions of this, but generally “just happens” comes from being genuinely sociable, interested, and enjoying yourself. Not having some ulterior motive or obsession with getting laid.

And even then usually guys have to do the pursuing even if women signal interest. I mean I met my gf through my group of friends but I still had to ask her out. Anyway, I can tell from this post you have major issues. You either need to build yourself up or lower your standards and bang a 4 or 5 just to get over this psychological hang up. I’d suggest the latter.

>>33289066 (OP)
I'm like you except I'm not dateless because I've been asked out by a girl (when I asked them out it didn't work), but I still acted shy and like a sperg and she wasn't touchy or anything, so I'm still kissless. You're probably low-t and you never learned to escalate sexually. Do you wonder why you had so many female friends but no girlfriend? Well, treating them like friends is the first mistake you might be making.

Is this the schizo who refuses to show sexual intent and who keeps making threads over and over?

>>33289066 (OP)
Have you ever tried dating apps? If the main reason you don't proceed with the interaction is because you don't feel like the other person is giving hints that they want to, a dating app might be the solution for that aspect, since people there are actively looking to hook up with someone.

>>33289126
>Well 4chan told me that "looks are all that matter" and "the better looking and taller guy will ALWAYS get the girl".
You're taking it to its extreme. Looks are massively important, but hardly the only thing, case in point: (You)

Well it seems OP is in his 30s so college parties, social gatherings are in the past.
What are his options now besides dating apps?

>>33289440
Well there are religious groups, or getting into a group hobbie and meeting someone there. Other than that he can try to pick up someone randomly at any social venue, but good luck with that nowadays.

Well, there is also always the chance of randomly clicking with someone at any given point in life...

captcha: D4MNN

>>33289459
How do you approach a woman at church? People just come and pray and when it's over they leave...

I'm a 34 year old virgin. I never went on a date or bothered. I just always thought I was subhuman and it was pointless

>>33289223
>unconsciously broadcasting signals of "Don't bother with me. I'm not worth your attention."
wtf? That seems like bullshit

>>33289483
I mean in religious groups within the church, stuff like a bible study or a prayer group.

Down where I live it is fairly common, but I personally feel sort of dirty for doing that, since I think it is a bit dishonest for the purpose of the group.

>>33289066 (OP)
it probably only looks easy to you or something

>I tried nothing
>nothing happened

>>33289183
And there it is. You HAVE to make the first move. Your problem is you're standing around and expecting women to make the first move which will never happen. You are a prisoner of your own fear.

>>33289503
You're living proof that it's true

>>33289808
Nothing helps more than getting rejected. Become masochist and acquire humiliation fetish. Got it.

>>33289183
This seems like the sort of thing most guys would look back on and think "why was i ever even embarrassed about this?". You asked a girl out and she decided to be a femsperg about it. Really ought to just let it go.

>>33289821
I understand being reluctant about it, it's embarrassing and if it fails you're the one who has to deal with the shame at that moment, but I agree with >>33289808. Men are expected to make the move.

It's like in the animal kingdom, where the male bird has to go and flaunt his feathers to impress the female bird, or when a male bug has to perform a dance to impress the female bug.

>>33290589
Good thing we are making biological women obsolete, because the X chromosome never did anything to earn this kind of ridiculous power

bump

>>33289066 (OP)
>>33289108
These people will always, always say that it's your fault for doing something wrong. It's not your fault. You were born with certain traits that when combined are off-putting to a woman. The solution? Give up on dating. Life isn't fair. These people will continue to blame you for something you never had a say in.

>>33289821
>repeatedly subject myself to pure existential dread
no thanks

>>33289271
>Not having some ulterior motive or obsession with getting laid.
what if i can't not have this?

>>33289266
Why didn't anyone tell him that beforehand?

>>33290639
You have an X chromosome too, dingus.

>>33289066 (OP)
>I'm attractive
>I'm socially active.
>not gay
>still never have a gf

Then you have a defective,abnormal personality that prevents you from asking women then.

Go to a psychiatrist and get antidepressants.
Have a good day.

>>33289066 (OP)
You just wasn't the convienent choice i guess.

>>33295071
>more autistic guys get laid
>more ugly guys get laid
>poorer guys get laid
>bigger fuckups get laid

>>33289066 (OP)
The same here, but at 32. I never figured out how to get a gf.

>>33289108
Yur gay.

sorry you didn't notice it sooner...
Tell me your browsing historu
Tell me there's not cocks in it.

>>33289066 (OP)
What are your hobbies?

>>33289066 (OP)
You know why.

>>33289066 (OP)
https://youtu.be/lqZehFAwoTM?t=32

It's over as soon as you turn 18 and leave the school system without a well established social circle. You go to work, but you won't make any friends, just coworkers. You join a sports club, same deal. It's over, because everyone already has their social circles locked in since childhood. You'll be nothing more than a coworker, destined to be alone for life. Social life and relationships are like trains you have to catch at the quay, a race against time that takes place during adolescence. And by extension, logically of course, no social life and no women.
But normies don't understand this because they are clueless normies who think you can walk into a bar full of strangers and magically form a social life like in The Sims. Only women can start from scratch and create a social life and get a boyfriend from scratch because of their status as women.

Whether you're 30 or not it doesn't change anything, maybe for the normies, but for you and me Chud, a year is like any other, the sands of time flowing towards nothingness, nothing more.. nothing less.

>>33289066 (OP)
Bro, it never began. You either lose your virginity before turning 18 or you might as well die a KHHV. Go on, flip the burgers and put the fries in the bag until a girl settles for you. Welcome to inceldom.

>>33289266
This. Pic related because he's talking a bunch about interest, but I'm not hearing anything about approaching women, asking them out, or striking out. Sounds like he never stepped up to bat, but is complaining he never got a chance to swing.

>>33289066 (OP)
Go take two years worth of weekends with three nightly in-person at-bats asking women either for their numbers for a second date, or to go back to their place. If you actually do it and are still a virgin afterwards, I'd happily buy you a few drinks myself.

I'm confident I won't lose my money on the above, because either you'll come up with some excuse why you won't do it, or if you actually did do it, you'd probably get laid within 2 months and be pissed off like
>wait, it was that easy this whole time???? fuuuuuuuuuck
but either way, my cash is safe.

>>33289066 (OP)
If you are like me you just never made an effort to get a gf.

>>33296682
Also, if you do it, you conclude the interaction with the request, if you are doing stupid shit and your approach to approaching isn't having a full interaction that ENDs with your ask, instead of stupid shit like leading with
>CAN WE GO BACK TO YOUR PLACE AND FUCK?
or
>HEY I JUST MET YOU AND THIS IS CRAZY BUT HERE'S MY NUMBER CALL ME BABY
then your problem is incurable autism and my advice would be "either be less retarded and stop being weird", or if this is not possible, "manually learn a structured dating process by your choice of pickup or dating coach (they all have one for autists) so you can mask this fact at least until after you two smash"

>>33296803
College is not for pussies. Real men and women go there. They go there, get degrees, become high value employees.

>>33289066 (OP)
Because you avoid risk and have avoided risk your entire life since this point: >>33289183 and the price of risk is often embarassment and humilition. Failure and disappointment, in short.
(You) have decided (for lack of a better word) that this anguish is not worth experiencing and to be avoided -- but this is a very stupid idea because the price of avoiding humiliation and embarassment necessitates becoming less visible, less conspicuous. You are a ghost with a hard-on. You are an avid lottery enthusist that has never bought a ticket. You are already dead. No pain, yes, but absolutely no gain either.

So here is your advice: Either nut up and get better at being upset or watch your entire life decay away like a timelapse of a dead rabbit. Your choice.

>>33297073
I choose the Timelapse
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ekj-97s4XC8

>>33296820
>employees
You mean tax serfs

>>33289066 (OP)
Did you actually try or what? You dont even need to be out every weekend on the prowl for poon. There is no way you didn't get some poon unless you are a NEET who never leaves the house.

>>33289066 (OP)
What are your political views? Theres your answer