I was wondering how common it is for the average american/western male to just be a single virgin at 30

normal white man, 6'3", IT job, average body, average cock.

Still never experienced a pink pussy before and never had a relationship. I'm able to be pacified by focusing on hobbies, games, and entertainment but I regret not being to experience young love and hot passionate sex.

At 30, I've mostly noticed women my age that are single wanting "a provider" and someone to provide offspring for them. It's kind of annoying seeing that these same women wanted nothing to do with me at 20.

I'm not sure man, but my whole love life is pretty much fucked and I was wondering how common this is.

>>33324469 (OP)
No, it's not normal, especially with those stats.

You're probably just not applying yourself.

>>33324469 (OP)
No, it's not normal.

Sounds like you have preconceptions and hangups, I bet you probably watch redpill/MGTOW shit.

Yes, a lot of women want someone to raise kids with as they get older. What are you expecting, 30 year old women to act like 18 year old women? If they were, you would judge them for that as well. It's good that they aren't and learned to be more mature, is it not?

What exactly are you looking for/what would satisfy you? You're a timid nerdy 30 year old virgin man who works in IT and posts on 4chan's advice board. Are you hoping to attract young, impulsive, dumb women who like edgy criminals and get knocked up young? Not only is that not gonna happen, but it's best that it doesn't, because they are retarded and will ruin your life. So again, what are you looking for if not a stable, mature lady? Why does that bother you?

>>33324498
>Not only is that not gonna happen, but it's best that it doesn't, because they are retarded and will ruin your life. So again, what are you looking for if not a stable, mature lady? Why does that bother you?
lmao kys
But realistically these worn out whores are the only ones who will be interested in a betabux like op. He can either swallow his pride and bend the knee or remain a virgin but retain his dignity.

>>33324522
Your worldview is a fundamentally immature one. You can't even explain why it bothers you or what exactly it is you expect or want.

>>33324532
>Women spends her teens and 20s whoring around with men she she finds attractive but who see her as nothing more but a cumdumpster. Ignores people like OP who would be good in long term relationships.
>Finds out this isn't a viable long term strategy and then starts searching for men who she isn't really attracted to but would provide a nice stable life for her
>She marries one of these guys and lets him bang her a couple of times in missionary so that she can shit out some spawn and closes off sexually after that
What's the point of being in this kind of relationship? It's cold, calculating, and transactional. If she doesn't want him at his worst, she doesn't deserve him at his best. There's nothing "immature" about not wanting to be an ATM to a washed out female.

>>33324544
The problem here is that you've constructed an entire fantasy scenario in your head and then applied it to every potential woman you could meet.

So I'll ask again, what do you expect/want? Let's say you're OP, you're 30 and a virgin. If you wanted to party with immature hoes - which it seems like you do based on what you're saying - which is stupid and immature - then you're being delusional as well. That ship has sailed. So what now?

>>33324556
>The problem here is that you've constructed an entire fantasy scenario
>Fantasy scenario
Note how OP said he only started getting attention in his 30s. Why is this a fantasy scenario? This is clearly what is happening.
>If you wanted to party with immature hoes
Nope, not what I'm saying at all. You're putting words in my mouth. I imply here:
>>33324544
>Ignores people like OP who would be good in long term relationships.
The ideal situation would be for OP to have someone who didn't spend their time jumping from cock to cock.
>That ship has sailed. So what now?
I agree. The dignified thing to do is to either find someone who hasn't engaged in these activities in their early 20s or stay alone. Becoming a stepdad or taking care of a worn out woman are options too but these are undesirable.

>>33324469 (OP)
>bro wants to talk about his sex life and dating
>first thing he introduces about himself is his fuckin job

people who work at taco bell or even live off welfare manage to have sex, your job has absolutely nothing to do with getting laid.

>At 30, I've mostly noticed women my age that are single wanting "a provider" and someone to provide offspring for them.
No they don't, they still want someone who's interesting and charismatic and can show them a good time.
>It's kind of annoying seeing that these same women wanted nothing to do with me at 20.
They still want nothing to do with you?

>>33324569
>OP said he only started getting attention in his 30s.
No he didn't. He said he thinks that women want to settle for a nerd provider, they don't.

Bro has never been on a single date his entire life it sounds like, don't think we should be taking his word on what women around him are like and what they want.

Normal? No. Becoming more and more common? Yes? Still not all that common though. But it’s increasing, yeah. I’m 25 and only made out and fingerbanged a chick with fetal alcohol syndrome. Didn’t wanna fuck her though. I say this as a guy that has attracted some good looking woman. My social anxiety always held me back

>>33324569
The only information you have to go on is that some women OP knew when he was 20 didn't want him then and are showing interest now. You don't know anything else about their lives, so you're just constructing a strawman based on your own preconceptions and resentments.

Everything you said made it seem like you wanted those women when they were younger and more immature, but fair enough.

The thing is, if OP was a catch, he would have found someone with similar values when he was younger. I know plenty of men and women who wanted families when they were younger and stayed together through the years, eventually getting married and having kids. OP, for whatever reason, is now 30 and still a virgin. That doesn't typically happen to people who have it all together. I agree with you that finding a younger, family-oriented woman would be his best outcome, but it's unlikely. And again, there is no reason to expect a woman his age to still be acting immature. Growing up is still what they should do, regardless of how they acted in years past.

>>33324609
>The thing is, if OP was a catch, he would have found someone with similar values when he was younger.
I agree which is why OP should remain alone because by the time he gets his shit together there will be no one worth dating.

>>33324544
>Ignores people like OP who would be good in long term relationships
How certain are you of this? Do you know him personally or are you just projecting that onto him because you have similar stats

>>33324620
I'd say a childless divorcee is entirely within OP's means right now. That's probably the best he can hope for. Being alone is shit and just makes you weirder as time goes on, I would not recommend that.

>No it's not normal
Yet there is an incel epidemic.
You guys really are in denial that this is a thing happening and becoming the norm.

>>33324839
>becoming the norm
So it's not the norm yet?

>>33324855
We're working on ensuring it's more than normal.
It's a guarantee.

>>33324813
>I'd say a childless divorcee is entirely within OP's means right now.
That may be true but is it desirable?
>Being alone is shit and just makes you weirder as time goes on, I would not recommend that.
Who gives a shit.

>>33324469 (OP)
>At 30, I've mostly noticed women my age that are single wanting "a provider" and someone to provide offspring for them. It's kind of annoying seeing that these same women wanted nothing to do with me at 20.
So why don't you become the guy they would have wanted when they were in their 20's? Except now you will also have the provider qualities they want. Go hit the gym, get shredded and lean, dress nicely - get the fuckboy look they wanted when they were younger but with the more mature personality they want now. That's literally exactly what women what.

>>33324498
>>33324532
Nice to see sane people posting on here. I used to post on /fit/ a lot and it's filled with redpill incels who don't even lift and who clearly don't socialize much outside of maybe their little weird redpill circles.

For all the men complaining about women, you'd do the exact same thing if you were in their shoes. You have to be honest with yourself, would you fuck yourself if you were a woman?

>>33324893
>>33324897
When did 4chan become so bluepilled?

>>33324943
Do you really think women look at a skinnyfat/chubby guy with ill fitting clothes and a scruffy unkempt beard who can barely hold a conversation and think "oh my god i want him to absolutely RAIL me right now"?

>>33325287
I fail to see how this is relevant.

>>33324469 (OP)
It’s not normal.

.t 35 year old virgin

at least you have a job. I'm a poorfag and a neet at 35. When my mother will die i will finally snap. I plan to either become a serial killer or some kind of terrorist, going out in blood and chaos, who cares at that point

>>33324943
That's not bluepill. It's redpill technically. He thinks that action can potentially save you. I'm not advocating for any of the pills. Just clarifying pills. I respect all pills.

better to have a easy job than a easy gf

I'm a 34 year old virgin who makes 6 figures and owns a house. I figure I'm not good enough to attract anyone and if I somehow do it's a serious risk and they'd only want my money. So I just never leave my house

>>33324469 (OP)
"Normal" is a judgmental word. It is not common. Less than 20% of men make it to 30 without any sexual experience.

But you are right about women your age evaluating men on more than looks, and if you have the qualities they are looking for - character, personality, empathy, reliability, etc - your chances may be better now than when you were younger

>>33324839
He didn't say the hates women.

>>33327481
I'm a 34 year old NEET who lost his job a couple years ago and never got another, broke up with his long-term gf and moved back in with his parents, but gets laid regularly, so I'm in the opposite position as you.

If you don't mind, what joh are you doing? I need to get my shit together again and stop chasing ass, I feel terrible about myself.

30% of this thread

>>33324943
NTA
When I first found 4chan I was basically the stereotype. I was a friendless, depressed, neet hermit who had never been intimate with a lady. One day somehow my depression went out and I started to change my lifestyle. many years later I'm just a weirdo with a few friends and a full time job, I'm more social irl and just single after a long relationship.

TLDR
>When did 4chan become so bluepilled?
People grow up, get a taste of real life and mature

>>33327842
Not exactly, I prefer this version.

>>33324532
Catering to the whims of a woman is not maturity. It’s a man’s duty to find a good woman and raise a family. Given the current market and legal dynamics that becomes very difficult. You have to look at it from a man’s perspective, if you were a man would you put your livelihood, wealth, and life on the line for you?

>>33324897
Sane people don’t treat individuality as sin and conformity as virtue.

>>33327843
Real life is suffocatingly boring and bland, there nothing special about it.

>>33327943
>I am an individual and virtuous because I sit inside by myself all day, you are sinful because you go outside and socialize with other human beings
Hm alright, whatever you need to tell yourself to cope.

>>33327948
Perspective plays a huge role.
But necessity's even greater.

>>33327898
me on the left of the last panel

>>33324469 (OP)
>6'3
>30
>a job

dude... get fit, fuck a couple whores, boom, you're a top 5%er
no excuse

>>33327898
Still has a Hakenkreuz and 88 tattooed.

>>33327818
Software development

why is tipster here