So after being on the dating scene for ~14 years now and having a lot of different experiences with females, both good and bad, here are my ultimate points I made:

>DiCaprio was right. 25 is the cutoff age for sane women. Anything beyond that is at best pump & dump material. Waste of time IMO.
>Only young women, especially around the age of 18-20 have some healthy attachment ability.
>They are also the easiest when you are already dating, the old hags will play the most games, no joke.
>The only good relations I had no matter how old I was were with young ladies.
>If she likes your looks, she likes you. You don't have to overcompensate with being a good guy or lots of texts.
>As a matter of fact if you give her that (texting, safety) on a silver platter right away, you go straight to the friendship zone.
>So don't be the safe guy. Be flirting, make some sexual innuendos from the get go. Only THEN the relation will go in the right direction (either ONW/FWB or a LTR).
>All of this will filter out the chicks who didn't like you romantically in the first place, so you won't waste time on sensless dates that lead nowhere.
>NEVER show more attention than she does after the first few days. It's necessary in the first day, two maybe three, to show her what she CAN get.
>After that keep texting at minimum, preferably have her initiate 75% of times, but no need to ghost her for hours or days.
>NEVER send long paragraphs, always keep messages shorter than hers.
>Just because she texts back and wants to go out on a date with you means nothing. Don't get your hopes up until you are already kissing/fucking.
>If she doesn't reciprocate some level of intimacy on the 1st date, it's over, onto the next one.
>Only after weeks, months of dating if you want to be in a LTR with her, show her your safe side, sexual tention goes FIRST!

There's probably more which I may add. Some of this may be obvious basic shit but for aspies like me it never was. I had to live it to see it for myself.

Those are way too many rules for me to follow and I don't want to play these stupid games so I guess I'm just gonna keep rotting but thanks for the effort

All good advice

>>33328185 (OP)
I used to be an alcoholic drug addicted club crawler and you wouldn't believe how many guys like this there are. They're 6'3" with hair like a shampoo commercial and a jawline that can cut glass. They're also daydrinking cokeheads on welfare who dropped out of high school, never had a job in their whole life and their only skill is superficial charm resulting from constant female validation since age 13 when they shot up to adult height over the course of one summer vacation. Their girlfriends are invariably beautiful, younger, college educated, financially well off stacies from rich families who binge drink and snort marching powder once a month. They tolerate Chad being a "manchild" that leeches off them just fine until they outgrow the clubs (ie start feeling old next to the pre-wall girls) and get the itch for kids in their 30s. Then Chad gets another. Chad does this until he's 40. These guys really live like those lovable immature womanizer Hollywood characters in entertainment. It really is a different universe for them. Average or below guys increasingly just give up on relationships for good reason. She will never lust after you like she did for that deadbeat junkie no matter how much you make or how responsible you are or whatever else if you're average. Not to even speak of the poor bastards who are short, go bald early, keep a babyface, etc. Nothing can help them at all. Life is a beauty contest, that's all.

>>33328197
Actually they are pretty simple when you realize they can be grouped into just a few groups:

>Date 18-25, preferably 18-20, ignore old hags
>Have the conversations and first date have noticible amount of obvious flirting
>Flirting and romanticism BEFORE showing her your safe side
>Show most attention on days 1-3, then respond with as much as she gives you or less

That's it.

>>33328200
Thanks man! I only realized all of this recently. Took me way too much time LOL.

>>33328185 (OP)
>the old hags will play the most games, no joke
Seconding this. I try to tell this to so many guys in the ever-present "hurr how do I get older woman gf like American Pie MILF durr."
Women' self-perceived value is inversely proportional to their actual SMV. They think having a Master's degree and "going to therapy" makes them more valuable as a loose and flabby 29 year old than when they were a 19 year old cashier in college but had a hot and tight body and pussy.

...boy oh boy I wish I could find a pretty 19 year old cashier who was into me...

>>33328215
Keeping the attention of young women is a boring and painful chore especially if you are 30+ years old and you
>n-n-n-o bro, I'm peaking, I'm at my peak!
You're coping is what you are. I say this as a man in his thirties who is a millionaire and that does less for me than when I was a BJJ practitioner in college. They will fuck you but they will never love you the way they love boyfriends their age. I've seent that with my own two eyes too

If you're a 30+m year old man, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE STARTED A FAMILY BY NOW. IT'S OVER IF YOU HAVEN'T.

>>33328236
*30+ years old and you actually have shit to do and are established in life

>NEVER show more attention than she does after the first few days. It's necessary in the first day, two maybe three, to show her what she CAN get.
I like how you phrase it.
A gamechanger for me was loving myself, having pride in who I was. Living alone for a while forced my to chase the sunlight and in the process I started shining myself. I stopped caring about girls rejecting me because it was their loss.

I have a story about me meeting the perfect 18 year old while travelling like it was a fairy tale and I fucked it up by love bombing her lmao. Im so fucking retarded man. Every single mistake with women that you would think is so obvious to not do, I've done. I genuinely think im either retarded like seriously low iq or I have the most fucked up emotional dependency / instability issues because my mom beat me and said the worst possible things to me during every pivotal moment of my life and my father never really taught me how to be a man. I fucking hate my life.

>>33328491
Yeah. They should love bomb you instead. Even if they don't, still don't give them more than they give to you. But you learned your lesson, good!

>or I have the most fucked up emotional dependency / instability issues because my mom beat me and said the worst possible things to me (...) and my father never really taught me how to be a man.
It's this option, anon. Also you sound like me.

>>33328398
Great story anon!

>>33328236
This is too funny. What you typed fits women perfectly but is not true about men. Women need to find their husband until certain age, because their looks, attachment and fertility deteriorates.
None of this is true about men. Women start off with value, men need to work on it. No man is ever at his peak when he's 22, yet women start deteriorating past that age.
It's even rare for men to peak at 25-26. What you typed is what old hags and their simps say. No one wants either one of those two groups.

>>33328236
And no, young women when they are interested will make it the easiest and will reciprocate the attention.
It's always a chore doing this with older females, they are always unhappy and don't listen to the man.

>>33328600
>But you learned your lesson, good!
Yeah such an amazing lesson! I feel so much better now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>33328185 (OP)
>>DiCaprio was right
I don't take advice from childless men over the age of 50

>>33328185 (OP)
Post makes me wonder if men would stoop for the younger if the legally capable age was less than 18.

>>33328600
First, I never said anything about women in that post. In fact, my opinion about women was here >>33328231
But, it is possible for two things to be true at once, as radical a concept as that might be to you. It could be that both men and women physically peak in their early 20s and only decline from there.
>Women start off with value, men need to work on it. No man is ever at his peak when he's 22, yet women start deteriorating past that age.
If we're defining "value" in this case as SMV and sexual attention then I was more valuable as a broke but in shape college student than an aerospace executive in charge of a multimillion dollar business.
>just take care of yourself bro!
Last year I got close to back in the shape I was in college. It didn't matter because you can't un-age. It's in your face, even if your sin is still smooth and supple. The years take their toll, especially if you're actually a man and you're working towards something.
Girls just want to have fun, and old men are not fun.

>>33328660
>than an aerospace executive in charge of a multimillion dollar business
damn ANOTHER millionaire /adv/ poster... this must be the most successful forum in the world

>>33328185 (OP)
>dating scene
stopped reading

>>33328634
Oh yeah, take advice from worn out damaged good women who tell you to date them. Great idea!

>>33328660
>It could be that both men and women physically peak in their early 20s and only decline from there.
It's absolutely not true at all and you know it. Men peak physically at different times. I'm in my early 30s and I look the best of all my ages.
May be because I aged yet still look young, people generally still think I'm a student sometimes.

>If we're defining "value" in this case as SMV and sexual attention then I was more valuable as a broke but in shape college student than an aerospace executive in charge of a multimillion dollar business.
Absolutely deluded. Stopped reading after this sentence. Maybe you aged like shit, bad genetics I guess.

>>33328747
Kek

>>33328747
if i get crypto rich ill still post here. maybe there are a lot of wealthy nerdy men on the internet.

>>33328815
crypto millionaire isn't high status like an executive, dumbass

>>33328197
>Too many rules
>Not interested in playing games
This.
If a woman can't be genuine and rational about choosing a partner, then I don't want to play these retarded games and waste my time and money on this nonsense.
Women are retards, basically.

>>33328185 (OP)
>>DiCaprio was right.
afaik his current gf is older than 25 tho?

>chuds who hit the wall making threads on /adv/ to seethe about it
damn. wimmin won.

>>33329311
>Women are retards
I cant even count how many times I have seen women giving attention to low IQ blokes, junkies, criminals and basically the lowest scum of society. They hang around with them, get physical, and even have relationships or even kids (often as single moms) with these idiot.
On the other hand I know a lot of good, intelligent and established guys, but having a extremely hard time finding a female who is at least somewhat interested in them.
So yeah, I can agree ... Woman are indeed retarded.

>>33328864
Executives are probably lamer. Their job requires they literally become the most boring milquetoast person possible.

>>33329356
while true let's be fair: there's no shortage of men even on 4chan who obsess over goth chicks/dommy mommys/bpd chicks that would ruin their lives.
we as human beings are attracted to rebellious attitudes that in the long term will negatively impact us. the difference is that woman can pick and choose and men generally can't unless they are good looking.

>>33328769
>Oh yeah, take advice from worn out damaged good women who tell you to date them. Great idea!
two wrong don't make a right

especially when you're one of those "90 year old men are more attractive than 27 year old women" posters

most males peak before puberty, they're cute as babies and tiny kids and then -wham- they get hit with the ugly stick and develop a gamer body

>>33328185 (OP)
I have observed many of those too, but many are not set in stone
yes a lot of girls over 25 will be crazy for one reason or another but it's not such an overwhelming majority that you can instantly discount a 27 yo that shows interest in you on her age alone
yes, if she falls in love of your appearance you have it easier but unless you're one of a kind (and being one of a kind usually means having one ugly trait, attractiveness tends to look very homogenuous the more you approach to perfection), she can easily replace you when you take her for granted

the main rule I'd say I learned and most people take years internalizing is that you have to be upfront about your intentions almost from the get go, not being creepy with your comments but letting you know you're approaching as a potential partner, not just a friend
many guys are too shy to do otherwise and either end up in the friendzone or waste their time on girls that don't even want them in the friendzone
girls do that too, I had a 17yo on the friendzone for 5 months last year (I'm 40 btw and it's legal in my country), I told her I wasn't after anything serious but I guess I kiss too good or I look like her dad or something she just wouldn't let go the idea of us being something. She finally wised up to the whole thing eventually as girls for some reason learn how to play these games way sooner and with less lessons than dudes.

>>33328203
you copypasted this before, and I'm not reading it this time either, be concise or fuck off with your shitty copypasta

>DiCaprio was right. 25 is the cutoff age for sane women. Anything beyond that is at best pump & dump material. Waste of time IMO.
>They are also the easiest when you are already dating, the old hags will play the most games, no joke.
>The only good relations I had no matter how old I was were with young ladies.
>If she likes your looks, she likes you. You don't have to overcompensate with being a good guy or lots of texts.
>So don't be the safe guy. Be flirting, make some sexual innuendos from the get go. Only THEN the relation will go in the right direction (either ONW/FWB or a LTR).
>All of this will filter out the chicks who didn't like you romantically in the first place, so you won't waste time on sensless dates that lead nowhere.
>NEVER show more attention than she does after the first few days. It's necessary in the first day, two maybe three, to show her what she CAN get.
>Just because she texts back and wants to go out on a date with you means nothing. Don't get your hopes up until you are already kissing/fucking.
>If she doesn't reciprocate some level of intimacy on the 1st date, it's over, onto the next one.
>Only after weeks, months of dating if you want to be in a LTR with her, show her your safe side, sexual tention goes FIRST!
Truth and/or good advice
>Only young women, especially around the age of 18-20 have some healthy attachment ability.
>As a matter of fact if you give her that (texting, safety) on a silver platter right away, you go straight to the friendship zone.
I partially disagree but totally can see where you're coming from
>After that keep texting at minimum, preferably have her initiate 75% of times, but no need to ghost her for hours or days.
>NEVER send long paragraphs, always keep messages shorter than hers.
Nah this is just immature sub-20yo stupid games, although derived from remnants of the real deal

>>33328185 (OP)
I ask Very unironicallly
>Should I date girls I don't like if I see them interested in me?
>How do I get interest in women as people if I'm only attracted to their appearance and don't even care about friends?
>How do I flirt with women if I have no sense of humor?

>>33329587
everyone has a sense of humor
unless they are very autistic
it's just that the sense of humor of some people is very... unique, lets put it that way.
you can always find someone into your sense of humor, it's just harder if the things you consider funny are considered weird or not funny at all by most people you've met.

>>33329587
Also
>What to text about? (specially if I don't give a shit about her, or if I'm holding back because I don't want to be a creep)
>What topics to talk in the first few dates? (detailed list please)

My problem is being extremely introverted cognitive wise. My thoughts revolve around my condition, my problems, my schedule, the use of my time. I have zero interest in people as individuals, I don't feel inspired by them, I have no idea how to get joy from them.

>>33329356
OP here, you are right anon and I will explain to you and everyone how it works.

High IQ men have higher consciousness, and thus they are not controlled by the social automatism core, you know, that animalistic instinct.

Low IQ men on the contrary are the most NPC-like - low consciousness, but they are basically controlled by those animalistic instincts.
They basically automatically know what and when and how to say and do to make women fall for them. It's not taught. They don't control it.

That's why they can never tell you how they get women, they don't analyze it. High IQ is a social curse, that's why so many autists are high IQ but socially they are fucked.
Notice how AUTISM is a work "AUTomatISM" but with the inside "core" lacking... This is exactly what it is.

So many men are OOGA BOOGA retards, but majority of women are OOGA BOOGA retardettes.

>>33329422
>especially when you're one of those "90 year old men are more attractive than 27 year old women" posters
None of this was even implied ITT. Fucking retard.

>>33329587
1. Depends on how much you don't like her. If you are repulsed by her and wouldn't want your friends to see you with her -don't.
If you simple are not head over heels but logically you can tell she is cute looking - that's what you want anon.
If a guy really likes a girl and he shows it to her, she loses interest. I know, it's retarded.

2. Find interest in what they do, maybe common hobbies or ideas around some subjects.

3. Flirting and humor don't have to go hand in hand. Ask ChatGPT about it because we don't know how bad you are at either.

>>33329629
But judging by THIS post, you sound low in sympathy levels, you are probably antisocial.

>>33328185 (OP)
>>All of this will filter out the chicks who didn't like you romantically

all of what

The only thing that ever matters with women is looks and dick size.

>>33328769
>May be because I aged yet still look young, people generally still think I'm a student sometimes.
Kek I don't have any on this computer but but this is literally "the millennial AAAAAAAGER" meme
If you were female we'd call you a roastie. And you have the nerve to call other people deluded, fucking waste of oxygen lel

>>33329821
I'm starting to think I should go to prostitutes or titty bars and learn to flirt there. I joined a stupid theater group at uni, it's all girls and a bunch of literal faggots, I'm the only heterosexual guy in the place. The girls are ugly but some have high energy I wish I could have, they seem open enough to friendship but I still cloister up by myself. I have no idea what a scale of progressive exposure should look like ideally.

>>33330237
>dick size.
And how would they even know that before fucking you

>>33330684
prostitutes and strippers and theater girls are all horrible women to develop flirting skills with and will warp your ability with regular women

I agree with most of this ngl. Doesn't matter much to me though now, I never took advantage of the easy opportunities given to me in my 20s so it's kind of just over as far as that front is concerned.

>>33328185 (OP)
>>If she doesn't reciprocate some level of intimacy on the 1st date, it's over, onto the next one.
Do you mean only physically? Strange enough my most sexual relationship we did not even hug on the first date

>>33328185 (OP)
It's funny how as I approach my 30s, I really stopped giving a shit what women think and sometimes I just straight up tell a woman I want to fuck her. Some good comes from it, some not. But women come and go, and frankly enough, I laugh when I was naive with chicks and worried about dating rules and mind games.

>>33328197
NTA but I feel the same way as you, but thats just how it is. We don't make the rules, we only discover them. Your choice to play or not.

>>33329416
because they're so desperate for any form of female affection they'll settle for bottom-of-the-barrel trash because it's better than being alone. There's a difference.

All the simps, young men who feel like their competition grows and of course old hags ITT only prove OP point right. And the "no, you" deflector claiming men are on a time limit like women are is truly pathetic.

>>33328185 (OP)
>Only young women, especially around the age of 18-20 have some healthy attachment ability.

Why is that? And what is healthy vs. unhealthy attachment ability?

>>33333953
>What is it?
Look it up - attachment styles.

>Why?
She rode less cocks and/or haven't been in a very long term relationship with a man whom she slept a lot with.
The older she is, the more attached she still is to the previous guy(s).

You don't even need to understand why that is, it just is, accept it. And ignore the hags.

>>33333961
Are men not the same re: long-term relationships and having sex with the same person? And how exactly does attachment to a previous guy affect future relationships? It’s not like most people want to be with their exes again after the fact

>>33333976
Because when she is with Bob, she will think of Brad and how his dick was bigger, how Steven's car was better, Jack's house had more bedrooms, Zachary was better in bed, Owen was higher in status and Joe made her feel more excited. This should answer all your questions in that post.
This is true for probably all women, they attach like children basically because that's what they are, eternal children. This is why you want a young woman who didn't have many previous attachments.

>>33328185 (OP)
Where can we meet and cross path with lots of women ?
How to get approached ?

>>33334208
Online. There's not a better option nowadays in the west.

>>33334538
Lmao. Good luck meeting anyone through tinder.

>>33334639
Thanks. I went out with a girl a little over 2 weeks ago, another last week and in 2 days I'll be going out with another one. How's it going for you?

I'm 41 and always been hopeless with women. I'm tall but skinny, babyfaced, neurotic and shy. Never had any success other than rare random kisses in nightclubs in my 20s. I'm self-aware enough to know that online dating is a waste of time and women in my age range are washed up and many of them literally insane. You can never truly accept your fate but with every passing year, it just sinks in more and you deal with it slightly better.

I had given up entirely. Then at the end of last year, out of sheer boredom and looking for a social outlet of some kind, I started playing at a local jam night and ended up joining a local band. Been playing guitar for many years but always been too high inhib to get on stage. Since Christmas, I've fucked 6 women and dated a couple of them, all of them decent, the youngest was 23. The only reason is because they see me on stage. I should've done it 20 years ago but was a socially anxious wreck back then. If you are average looking and/or broke, having some kind of status is the only way. You don't have to be Drake, just local status or even confined to a single bar will do it. Our bass player fucks and dates women like you wouldn't believe even though he's 5'7 (huge cock apparently though in all fairness). I don't even enjoy playing cliche rock covers but bitches don't care. I've had more success with women in my 40s in the last 6 months than my entire teens and twenties combined. Can't imagine what it must've been like in the 60s and 70s or what its like for popular rappers and DJ's today.

>>33334668
lmao, anon just got btfo

>>33328185 (OP)
This is all well and good for once she's already interested in you but how do you get that first foot in the door? How do you get that number exchange with her in the first place?

>>33328769
>. I'm in my early 30s and I look the best of all my ages
Hahahahahahahaha

The same years of experience as you, I've been dating 18-20 year olds exclusively lately. I want to settle down now, especially since my current GF is leagues better than any other girl i've dated. She's 20, about to be 21. My last gf was 18 when we met, played hard to get at the beginning but started dropping hints she wanted marriage after a few months. I'm hoping it's the same with my current one. I really just want to stop. She unfortunately, besides being kind of based and into the fact that I'm a little racist, keeps saying feminist type things. Are you trying to marry soon?

>>33328185 (OP)
>25 is the cutoff age for sane women
it's selection bias, anon
anyone reasonable settles down by 25
the only people left single after 25 are unreasonable

>>33337201
Well I'm sorry you aged like shit anon.

>>33337416
How old are you and how much money do you have?

>>33338194
Women, yes. Men still have the ability to healthy attach past that age for decades.

>>33328185 (OP)
>>If she likes your looks, she likes you. You don't have to overcompensate with being a good guy or lots of texts.
good general advice. Desperation does not work.
> >As a matter of fact if you give her that (texting, safety) on a silver platter right away, you go straight to the friendship zone.
God I hate women.
The easiest time to get one is when you dont want one.

>>33328197
good advice

>>33328600
Yeah, you start looking like ass after 30 too

>>33340714
Compared to what? 25? When I was getting maybe 6 dates a year and now I can get it in like a month? Stop the fucking cope.

>>33334686
Why do people keep posting this pasta

>>33328236
>If you're a 30+m year old man, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE STARTED A FAMILY BY NOW. IT'S OVER IF YOU HAVEN'T.
demoralizing retard who never read history

>>33340714
the majority of men of any age are considered unattractive to women. you being uglier at 30 doesn't mean you're attractive at 20

>>33328236
>Keeping the attention of young women is a boring and painful chore especially if you are 30+ years old
as opposed to keeping the attention of old women? that is as boring and a chore except they look worse

>>33328491
>and I fucked it up by love bombing her lmao
was it love bombing or just simping? love bombing means you manipulated her with a lot of affection. doesn't sound like you did or that it worked out

>>33328634
yeah just take advice from childless redditors who call you a PEDO for dating a 19 year old women

>>33329422
>two wrong don't make a right
there is nothing wrong with dating women in their prime

>>33334686
>If you are average looking and/or broke, having some kind of status is the only way.
this is very true. redditors and twitter leftists hate this though and will say you "abusing power dynamics". instead they want you to be incels or simps for 35 year old women done having their fun

>>33340864
zoomers make fun of it because they're too inhibition even though it is unironically practical advice for non-chad men

>>33341887
Women who fuck any old guy playing a guitar don't seem like they'd be too good for a relationship

>>33341915
women in their youth do a lot of things like this. that's why you have to date them before they do

I just wish all my male friends weren't fags I'm good looking enough for women to approach me even if I'm by myself but I don't have the stamina to go out every night anymore

But man it'd be nice to have a dude my age who isn't a complete nonce and would wingman with me

>>33328185 (OP)
Why do only women over 30 flirt with me then?

>>33328185 (OP)
>DiCaprio was right. 25 is the cutoff age for sane women. Anything beyond that is at best pump & dump material. Waste of time IMO.
>Only young women, especially around the age of 18-20 have some healthy attachment ability.
Hi, anon. I'm coping with the one that got away. I am 31, she was 29. She admired me from a distance from when we were 28 and 26 respectively. By the time I found out, she "lost interest". I was left confused, feeling guilty, chased even, and treated like a worthless dog.

To this day, I blame myself to a degree. Mostly for not catching the hint but her actions speak loud as well. I told everyone, to be playing games like this at this age is the biggest red flag I've ever experienced, but then again, I remain single, she found someone else.

WHILE having that someone else, she kept making eye contact with me (but never saying anything). I felt compelled to initiate but I didn't, because I felt the manipulation, I am no dummy.

It's been 2 years and she is still with that guy. She used to orbit my work but I haven't seen her in months now and I refuse to look her up. I want to forget about her.

What do you make of this? Admiration to games like this. I am financially successful, fun and have very good looks. I am uniquely "cute", girls say, and I flirt with everyone, even married people, so she was no exception. One of many, but she stuck in my mind as the potential wife I lost.

>>33343634
You are attractive and appear "easy" for them

>>33344472
Why are you asking OP what they make of your own personal experience like they're some god? You really think life is as simple as OP outlined it? Bro...90% of people are retarded and can't think beyond a straight line.

>>33328236
>>33328215
>>33328600
younger women with older men will always be sabotaged by their friends to get you to break up

>>33344472
>What do you make of this?
A girl was interested until she wasn't. Simple as.
>I was left confused, feeling guilty, chased even, and treated like a worthless dog.
You were treated like a dog because that's exactly what happens when you chase like one. I understand women *say* they want a Good guy who always buys flowers, is emotionally available, etc etc. But it's just words. What happens when you give them that? Exactly your experience. That's what. So part of the problem is learning to focus on how women *act* and what they *respond* to and not what they say.

And why are you obsessing? If you're good looking, this shouldn't be the only woman to ever be attracted to you. So why do you act like she is? And your financials mean shit. yeah they help, but a broke dude with a vision of the future and some personality can get bitches all day. It's about what's inside. You don't get to skate by with looks. So your entire mindset needs to be reformed from the ground up.

There are countless beautiful women. There are very few men with looks, purpose, and personality. Act like it.

>>33328185 (OP)
If you've been on the dating scene for 14 fucking years why haven't you locked one down you mong?
t. owns over Q500$ USD in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, has had sex with probably over 1000 women (stopped counting at 400) all of them at least 8/10, looks like male model, has a 9.8 inch penis (why my primary girlfriend unlocks it of course), and biologically immortalized myself shortly before my 25 birthday ADDENDUM: I CANNOT BE KILLED

>>33345210
*when

>>33345210
You contracted some sexual disease, right?

>>33345271
Nope, they were all virgins.

>>33328185 (OP)
I think I agree with the most part of this but from my own personal experience and preference there are some points that I might change.

> I really do not care for being sexual right away. I might be romantic if it feels right but absolutely not sexual. This is more of a personal preference than anything.
> The texting side of things really isn't so important to me, if I want to send long messages I will, if I want to text less that too, same goes for attention. Personally I've never met a girl who really cared about how I texted, I've always been more of a call and talk person anyway.
>My philosophy when it comes to these things is that it's a numbers game to get through as many people to find the right one and therefore getting caught up and obsessive over a single girl too early is bad probability. I want to be the truest expression of myself, sure it's important to make effort, but I won't hide or change aspects of my personality. Maybe there's some logic that some girls that might be a really good match for you require a little more a attention before they warm up to you simply as a matter of personality, but in such cases they should at the very least give you some kind of indication that they may be interested in you somewhere down the line, I think the best girls are often like this.
> In summary I will be myself unapologetically while doing my best to make the girl feel desired and happy. If I can see someone is getting disinterested I have no problem moving on.

Frankly my ideal girl is someone who I meet as a friend and we develop a relation over time and find we're extremely compatible which eventually flourishes into a relationship. This is hard to come by in this busy world but a man can dream I suppose.