Thread 33456135

When you ask about penis size why do women always say
>oh a big dick isn't everything! i hooked up with this well-endowed guy once but he was selfish and couldn't use it
and that begs the question, what if they DO know how to use it? And why is it always the contrast between somebody with a micropenis who is good at oral (always the 'ex') and the selfish womanizer with a ginormous dick? All else equal in terms of qualities as a lover, which is better? And why limit it to super big? What about the ranges of small to average and above average to big

I think I'm starting to understand now. Look at nature. The girl river fish wants the boy river fish with the largest body and most colorful scales. The proboscis monkey with the biggest dick-nose gets the harem. The deer with the biggest antlers can kill all the other deer during the rut to secure the harem. Only the birds with the most colorful feathers and compelling mating calls get to pass on their genes. It's just sexual dimorphism. We're still animals.

This makes sex a little less meaningless but is necessary to preserve my sanity at this point.

>>33456135 (OP)
>All else equal in terms of qualities as a lover, which is better?
The ones that communicate and actually wants sex to be mutually enjoyable. Only someone into being dominated by their lover (out of self esteem issues or some other mental health issue) is going to prefer someone that is selfish or abusive during sex.
And it's foolish to expect women to know what they actually want or report on it honestly/accurately.
>What about the ranges of small to average and above average to big
Nobody remembers averages, only extremes are memorable.

>>33456156
>The ones that communicate and actually wants sex to be mutually enjoyable.
that's exactly what i said in terms of qualities as a lover. you never answered my question. when both communicate and what to have sex to be mutually enjoyable, what size is better?
>Nobody remembers averages, only extremes are memorable.
that has nothing to do with preference. women have pretty good visual memory for sizes. they obviously don't pull a ruler out for every new man, then consult the latest research on what bone pressed erect length is average in her country

>>33456135 (OP)
>When you ask about penis size
why do guys do this shit? Seriously what kind of answer can any woman give that will satisfy your need to discuss penis? fuck men are so penis centric there is no room for anything else

>>33456230
you're right that it is kind of useless. if you directly call out a woman for lying she doesn't really care. she'll continue living her best life and being attracted to who she's attracted to. it doesn't advance the man's position in any way to expose hypocrisy. nobody has ever changed because some loser man scolded her for what he sees as dishonest/unjust behavior.

>>33456230
just tired of women pretending to not understand their body, their preferences/desires, because they want to virtue signal about how psychological and sophisticated they are in dating but >>33456253 stands. i already know the answer but getting them admit that won't change that behavior. the crux of the issue is that the behavior disadvantages me, not that it is hidden.

>>33456135 (OP)
Actually what women say is that a big dick is at best uncomfortable and at worst painful. But you never listen when they say it.

>>33456265
research says they want above average but not huge penises on average
don't gaf about what they say beyond venting my frustration at how shamelessly they lie

>>33456135 (OP)
When you ask directly about it, women always say it doesn't matter, but when you let women bring up the subject of big dicks on their own, it's always an expression of awe.

>>33456169
>when both communicate and what to have sex to be mutually enjoyable, what size is better?
You generally get the same answer in regards to men preferring huge titties. Yes, most women prefer larger dicks. They are exceptions, but you also have to keep in mind that it's not going to be a primary selection criteria. If it were you're making some kind of compromise in putting up with other cons of that person just to prioritize one physical pro.

Just as mean rationalize "sticking their dick in crazy" women also justify abusive relationships because they made a choice over superficial factors.

>>33456303
>There are exceptions,
fixed

>>33456268
>research says
What research would that be?

>>33456314
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4558040/
one article just as an example. these kinds of studies are the only way to avoid response bias.

>>33456268
>don't gaf about what they say beyond venting my frustration at how shamelessly they lie
so what would be your ideal? women trying to comfort your feelings is a pretty good default. do you wish all women were just like a German dominatrix and totally direct about the ways men are inadequate whenever it comes up?

>>33458893
yes.
>your *feature* is inadequate but we can't all be perfect and sometimes we have to settle. despite this shortcoming i still enjoy being around you, and feel a real emotional intimacy that others lacked. i trust that we can work together to overcome your deficit

>>33456135 (OP)
Bro, don't talk about penis size with women, it's weird and reeks of insecurity

>>33458925
never talk about anything with women or else you're insecure. let them silently judge you instead of communicating. never try. just let a woman pick you. it's an ick to want to improve. he should be perfect right out of the box

>>33458893
Not anon, but yes.
It's unironically much worse if she's clearly beating around the bush when she doesn't like something or prefers something else. Being patronized and coddled is orders of magnitude worse than being confronted with the cold hard truth.
It can also act as a filter, if a guy *can't* handle the truth without being butthurt/breaking into tears, then he is not worth keeping.
You learn very early on as a guy to take things like that on the chin and a woman withholding the truth from you like that implies that she thinks you're too weak to handle it.

>>33458933
this, but unironically

>>33458893
>totally direct about the ways men are inadequate whenever it comes up
Holy fucking shit, yes. Is it that hard to understand.

>>33458893
at long last...anon finally gets it.
Omedeto
>>33459057
>a woman withholding the truth from you like that implies that she thinks you're too weak to handle it.
also this

>>33458893
Yeah? How are women not able to wrap their heads around this?
Anytime anon makes one of his gay ah dick size discussion threads that's literally all anyone expects from women.

>>33458893
>uhh so you want women to be honest?
Is this bait?
Nvm, it probably is, given the amount of (you)s you've farmed.

>>33458893
There really is no proper way to handle this kind of discussion now since most people, but men especially, are subjected to seeing porn from an early age which warps their own sense of being and what they consider the standard. It's why so many young men are more prone to suicide and depression now, they get hooked on porn and tiktok/snapchat/whatever app is hot that shows you cherry picked highlight reels of an unrealistic/fake lavish life which causes them to become displaced in their own lives. Women are emotional creatures and they know better, I think than men themselves do, on average, that discussing anything about penis size is a road that leads to ruin. Being confident, knowing how erogenous zones work, and generally being romantic will get you SO much further than having a big dick. Of course those aren't mutually exclusive things, plenty of guys out there have it all but you've got to remember that women are flawed creatures too, shit, most of them nowadays are BPdemons. Yeah, I know, women have it easier, they always have, even before they had rights, suck it up, that's part of being a man and don't let this pussified modern society try to tell you otherwise.

>>33459170
>muh social media
half cope, half truth. Whatever standards are set by social media and porn aren't unrealistic so much as just not pertaining to a lot of people. In either case the cat's out of the bag and the copes: "it's all photoshop", "the big ones hurt", "more money more problems" or whatever are being exposed as just that, copes. You could live that kind of life you see on social media if you locked in hard enough, but the cold hard reality is that most people don't have it in them to do that (and not having the genetics for it) and thus must resort to fantasizing about it, but that doesn't make the fantasy any less good. Like you said, some guys have it all and they do exist and there is 0 reasons why women shouldn't go for them.
But you're right, men need to stop being pussies about it and soldier through it. Male suicide rates is just cutting the crust of and by and large a good thing.

women are a meme

>>33456135 (OP)
Most women like big dicks.

If women keep telling you these copes to the point you know them all by memory, you have a small dick

>>33456135 (OP)
I bet Tenna has a big TV cock. I'd let him use it on me. I bet it vibrates too.

>>33458391
Average male girth: 4.6". Women's preferred girth: 4.8". Yeah, I can believe that.

They are just being pick mes. But you men don't want to hear the truth. Just yesterday me and some other woman were talking about dick sizes on here and an idiot came in saying we were typing with moid hands. We were literally just replying to each other and he took issue with it because it didn't fit into his narrative. It wasn't even anything crazy. Just us talking about how thick or long cocks impact sex
Sorry I forgot that even anonymous I need to kiss men's asses and insist that beyond 3 inches my vagina has no nerve endings and getting my cervix hit feels worse then a thousand whippings (sorry but I like it deep it doesn't hurt)

>>33460655
Careful, you'll trigger them lol. Then they'll complain about all women being bitches because they don't bootlick them all the time like in their fantasies.

>>33456135 (OP)
A man with a 4 inch dick who fucks twice is equivalent to a man with an 8 inch dick who fucks once.
Do the math, retard.

>>33460655
Still moid hands, sorry.

>>33460677
I fully expected it and there it is above me lol. It's so pathetic.