Thread 33462471

It's pretty much daily at this point and probably not very good for my health.

Whanever I see something stupid - something really dumb, or something that pisses me off, I will, of course, think about how stupid it is. The issue is that whanever I do, I *always*, almost instintictively, end up thinking of a "counter-argument" in favor of the stupid thing I saw.

But obviously, defending something stupid is stupid. So the argument to defend it is stupid. So I think "No, that is objectively stupid and here's why." But then I end up thinking of a SECOND counter-argument to what I just said and it makes me even angrier because the counter-argument is even stupider. And the knowledge that there are people who genuinely believe this just makes me even angrier.

The very idea, I suppose, that someone thinks something incorrect is correct, is deeply enraging to me. As though I woke up one day and everyone kept saying that 2 + 2 is 5, and then whanever you kept trying to say "No it's not" they just went "NUH UH IT'S 5, EVERYONE IS SAYING IT'S 5, YOU'RE WRONG"

It's infuriating, really.

>>33462471 (OP)
I do the same thing but it's with specific people in my life. I hope you can get someone tow answer you so I can piggyback off of your success. This shit is intolerable.

>>33462471 (OP)
You need to come to peace with the fact that you cannot make anyone believe anything they don't want to believe. You can have every piece of evidence that the sky is blue and lay it all out with perfect clarity and all they have to do is say "lol no its purple"
You can coerce people physically and you can reduce them psychologically, but you will NEVER be able to truly control dissenting thought. Even if you killed them you haven't controlled their thoughts.
This is a blessing and a curse of our species.
Embrace it.

>>33462545
Okay, let me tell you what just happened in my head when I thought of this, anon

>Yeah, it's probably a waste of time to keep arguing with people who don't care
"But in doing so, you're just letting them have their incorrect opinions completely unopposed. They will keep believing they're right."
>But it doesn't matter, they'd still be believing it anyway
"So you'll just shut up and stay quiet with your opinion? By doing so, you are essentially conceding to them. You might as well agree and say they're right even when they aren't."

>>33462568
>So you'll just shut up and stay quiet with your opinion? By doing so, you are essentially conceding to them
Conclusion does not follow from the premise.

>>33462587
If someone says that the sky is purple, and you say nothing, and they keep saying the sky is purple, and everyone agrees the sky is purple, and you still keep saying nothing and just nod your head and stay quiet, you are, basically, agreeing that the sky is purple. It doesn't matter that you know it's blue, you've conceded the ground.

>>33462594
>If someone says that the sky is purple, and you say nothing, and they keep saying the sky is purple, and everyone agrees the sky is purple, and you still keep saying nothing and just nod your head and stay quiet, you are, basically, agreeing that the sky is purple.
No, you are not basically agreeing that the sky is purple. There are plenty of good reasons to say silent even if you disagree.
I assume you're saying that the outcome of staying silent is the same as the outcome of agreeing. But in this scenario the outcome of disagreeing is probably the same as the outcome of agreeing anyway. You're not changing any minds regardless. You're just casting pearls before swine for self-gratification except the self-gratification comes with enough anger to cancel out the self-gratification.

>>33462624
True, anon, but at the same time, staying silent still feels as though you are just giving up and accepting their reality.

>>33462645
It may feel that way, but it isn't so. You should be proud that you are more skeptical and you should have faith that truth will eventually prevail.

>>33462652
Okay but that doesn't stop me from instantly beginning to argue in my head whanever it happens and getting myself angry over it.

>>33462656
I don't think you can stop that overnight. You need to internalize your lack of power over the thoughts of others.
I know Marcus Aurelius is kind of a meme these days but a dose of stoicism would do you some good, I think.

>>33462471 (OP)
You lack self-awareness and mental flexibility. You, like everyone else, have modules of mind (picrel), and you are letting one (not very useful one) hog the show.

>>33462471 (OP)
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcbglml9KRo

>>33462471 (OP)
To not do the thing, don't do the thing.