Thread 33468787

I’m 6’4 and get zero attention from women. I’ve hugged a girl once in 2016, and that was at work
I’m white
Literally no one cares I’m taller than 90% of people.
My question is did the incels lie to me?

Same here. We are literally everything an incel is, but stretched out to weakness.

In fact getting trooning treatment from others feels even more insulting and sometimes makes you cry out of humiliation if you are a tall guy wanting to be a man, nut never can due to society pussifying you all the time.

Your face is likely the culprit, or hair loss, or you are obese or look like Slenderman.

Height is more of an augmentation that greatly boosts other stats but it doesn't do as much on its own

>>33468814
this

anytime i see a tallfag complaing they conveniently forget face>height or leave out sever balding

>>33468847
You don't fucking get how humiliating it is everyday to live my life. Every fucking day I get treated like a fucking faggot all the time! Why did God give me the genitals in the size they are if they put it on a fucking girly girl fagboy who should be a fucking man! Why can't I fucking be a man!

>>33468787 (OP)
>Why can't I fucking be a man!

Honest answer? Cause you never made it a serious goal. You had lazy parents who stuck a screen in front of you or school system that you never cared for - i dont know.

But ask yourself, have you really ever tried to be a man? If you were serious, you'd be hitting the gym, maxxing your protein , you would look into natural ways to boost testosterone (which is really all you're missing besides the muscle btw - this goes for any faggot presenting man tall or short) , look at what "men you admire" wear and copy it , see how you feel, etc.

If it mattered to you - you would do everything I'm saying.

>>33468787 (OP)
>I’m 6’4 and get zero attention from women.
This is what happens when you listen to what women. *say* and not what they *do*. Short men get women all the time. Ugly men, fat men, skinny men, etc all get women. Different women like different things. Just like different men like different things. Shocker, right?

What is your style? Do you get consistent haircuts? What exactly do you do to *be* attractive other than
>hurr durr I'm 6'4" and height is the absolute SINGLAR thing that determines whether or not a woman will be with you!!11!!1

>Literally no one cares I’m taller than 90% of people.
Because being 6'4" doesn't make a woman wet. Like. Imagine a set of DD tits, but nothing else is there. What do you do with that? No face, no body, no chest to hold the tits. Just DD tits. What do you do with that? It's one dimensional. You wouldn't want a relationship with that. Now reverse it. Is all you have to offer your height? And that alone merits you a woman? C'mon. You know that sounds insane.

>My question is did the incels lie to me?
>Is listening to men who don't interact with women a bad thing?
Bruh. Do you actually want help getting women or are you just venting?

>>33468814
>>33468847
>Your face is likely the culprit
No. It's more likely that he has nothing to offer other than height. No style. No charisma. Clearly no ability to speak to or approach women. We can intuit a lack of confidence as well. As I said above: Ugly men get women. Hell there are women that specifically seek them out because they don't want a man prettier than they are. They want a man that works hard to stay with them. It's never just *one* physical thing.

>>33468787 (OP)
Are you fat? If you are 6’, white and thin you should be drowning in pussy. You would still be drowning even if you weren’t white. Are you talking to women at all? I suspect the actual issue is you aren’t in any social events where you talk to women

>>33469163
women don't want to talk to you when you're tall. they move away from you like an escaped gorilla at the zoo

talls are only valued for sports and when something needs to be taken down off a high shelf. other than that it's actively intimidating and negative

>>33469171
>women don’t talk to you
you’re supposed to be the one talking to them retard. you are the man

>>33469208
>crosses the street like you were a gang banger
>doesn't even look up at you as you talk directly to her
>*interrupting as you open your mouth* I'm already talking to someone

no shit Sherlock i know you're supposed to talk to them. they don't let it happen when you're tall

Thoughts attached
Idk why I bothered with this unserious half-in-jest thread but I guess I like the sound of my own monologue sometimes eh

>>33468787 (OP)
Have you considered developing a personality?

>>33468787 (OP)
You’re either hideous, anti social to the point you’ve never been exposed to girls enough for them to give you attention, or too self hating/socially inept to read the signs that are there. I was seriously depressed in highschool, thought I was ugly (6’2”, blonde blue eyed and 280 pounds), and that no girl would ever like me. This led to a situation where I was hosting a party, and after I had gone to bed in my room a girl banged on the door and said she wanted to sleep on my bed, and my internal reaction was “this bitch is really gonna make me sleep on the floor?”. It wasn’t until a decade later that I realized she was trying to sleep with me that night, and when I did I literally face palmed and groaned in agonizing realization. I was my own worst enemy socially inept high school, and I suspect your are as well, because you sound like you have very low self esteem. Do something that will give you confidence, like taking up boxing, or getting swole. After that it’s pretty fucking easy to get attention from girls, you just have to socialize enough that you learn what the cues are. You’ve probably missed a bunch of them.

>>33468787 (OP)
>My question is did the incels lie to me?
Incels lie to everyone, including themselves.

>>33469227
Height isn't your issue.
You're giving off the aura that makes people cross the street to get away from you.

>>33469208
LMAOOOOO FUCKING INCEL FAGGOT DETECTED
I all-caps because I am genuinely mad
6'2" reporting in, 240 pounds and lift so bear mode
He is 10000% right about women treating you like Lurch if you're "big" with no or little social clout. They want 5'9" safe sleazy fuccboi delux, not Hugh Mungus.
>>33469591
LMAOOO congrats you won biggest (literally) faggot retard ITT
>You’ve probably missed a bunch of them.
If women want you they make it EAAAASY. EAAAAASYYYY PEAAAASY.
There's no such thing as mixed signals. Once I've gotten every girl I've ever fucked (all six of them LMAO) alone with me, they hopped on my dick like white on rice.

OP is right. Modern dating is fucked, women no longer base dating choices on rational decisions, they base it off algorithmic trendsbecause half of them have no fathers or weak ass mama's boy fathers

>>33469208
>>33469718
Cuz I'm raging drunk I forgot to add I'm outgoing as fuck. I was in Dallas as few weeks ago for a concert and got three instagram accounts and two phone numbers. Nothing happened.
>durr you're just bad with women
C O P E it's you incels that say "durr just be tall da pussy comes flying in." I think I don't hate women anymore, I hate you faggots.

>>33468787 (OP)
You need to have the proper frame as well, being a lanklet is goofy looking. Also face is the most important not height, but some height can make up for the face if you go for smaller girls who get "dazed" by height due to their small nature.

Op here. Sorry answering questions, almost forgot I made this

>are you ugly
I’m not attractive, but wouldn’t say ugly. I’m skinnyfat and kind of average looking. 185lb. Nothing special really, but definitely not Truecel tier. Not balding but I’m greying at 26 kek

>>do you interact with women at all
Aside from work, no. I don’t cold approach. I get zero hits really on tinder and stuff (even putting height in bio) , I just think I’m either extremely plain or come across as boring. I’m also this height in a country where the average is 5’9 so you really think it would help here lol
I guess I’m just crippled by shitty childhood and inaction. I’ve had a date this year in jan? J think but nothing came of it.
My brother is 5’10 and married btw

>>33470309
>I’m skinnyfat and kind of average looking.
Not good enough for women anymore. You should go to the gym and try to looksmax to see if your facial attractiveness can be improved.

>>33470309
>I’m not attractive, but wouldn’t say ugly. I’m skinnyfat and kind of average looking. 185lb. Nothing special really, but definitely not Truecel tier. Not balding but I’m greying at 26 kek
The greying happens to everyone. Irrelevant. But the biggest problem here is your mindset.
>I'm not attractive
That's the problem. You need to work to be the best physical version of you. Not some model, or body builder. Most men aren't anywhere near that and still have women. You've got to be confident about yourself and that comes from knowing you're doing your best. So start doing that.
>Aside from work, no. I don’t cold approach.
You should.
> I get zero hits really on tinder and stuff
Online dating is a time waster. You'd be better off cold approaching.
>(even putting height in bio)
Yeah, because women aren't looking for *one* thing lol.
> I just think I’m either extremely plain or come across as boring.
This is the answer. Work towards your best physical form, whatever that is for you. (you get to decide this). Find your style (clothing). Get hobbies outside of your house, and start cold approaching. You should talk to 2 women a day. Not asking out. Just...talking. Even if you aren't attracted. It's about building the skill so everything flows naturally whenever you *do* come across someone you're attracted to.
>My brother is 5’10 and married btw
So why the fuck are you jerking off to being 6'4"? You know from first hand experience height alone means dogshit.

>>33470309
You are more than your numbers. Height is not the defining characteristic for attractiveness, though in my experience it will make things easier for you than if you were short. Incels aren't lying per se but that's how they operate- they bend statistical correlations into an untrue narrative. You're better off just completely discounting anything that incels or whatever-pill ideology says.
Your number one problem is not being in places where you regularly interact with women. The trick is finding things you genuinely enjoy doing that happen to have women around, and to not do those things for the express purpose of finding a partner. If you have nothing like this right now then that's a good thing- it means there's a lot to try!

>>33470455
>Not good enough for women anymore. You should go to the gym and try to looksmax to see if your facial attractiveness can be improved.
Conflicted because this is so wrong, yet also correct.
>Not good enough for women anymore
Women aren't some hive mind where they're all attracted to the same exact thing. Fat dudes have women. Ugly dudes have women. Short dudes have women. Different women like different things. Simple as. There is no objective "hot" for women just like there isn't one for men.
>You should go to the gym and try to looksmax
Yes, he should strive for his best physical form.
>to see if your facial attractiveness can be improved.
His face is almost irrelevant. This is the same shit as OP jerking his dick about being 6'4". It's about the body / more holistic. Women want a man that looks like he can fuck / is fit. And an ugly faced dude with a built body will get way more women than a model faced dude with nothing else.

Men really need to stop focusing on *one* aspect thinking it will get women. They don't look at ONE thing. It's about being well rounded. For example:

>Ugh, he's short. Buuttt..he has nice muscles and smells good. Forgettable face, but I can deal with that. Nice style though so he definitely cares about his looks and hygiene. He speaks confidently. Probably has a decent job. Sounds good

>MMm, he is 6'4" with a nice face. Cool. But he dresses like a 12 year old. No hobbies. *sniff* has he taken a bath this week? Wow, does he only have one pair of shoes? Those are dirty as fuck. Why does he keep stammering though? I didn't even put any effort in my outfit today. Pass.


>>33470679
This shit right here, too. Good advice.

>>33468787 (OP)
being 6'4'' is a huge plus. but the way you dress or groom yourself can take away from that.

When are you guys going to learn that it has nothing to do with your stats but we live in an anti human apocalypse

>>33468787 (OP)
Not this dickhead again! Moaning that women don't drop into his lap "despite" his height! I won't read it because OP is too retarded to listen to.

>>33468814
idk about this, yesterday i went to a concert and saw this attractive girl who complimented my shirt, then saw she had a bf, and her bf was this tall 6'2 fat guy who was balding, he also isnt rich or anything, he works as a journalist. idk bro height is key ngl

>>33471430
That guy you are talking about was never given attention either if it was solely based on his appearance. If he's a journalist it's extremely likely he has a well defined personality and isn't autistic. In that case yes, height helps him only after that has been established. Also having a "personality" isn't necessarily a positive character trait as a lot of that is just being trendy, fake, or vapid enough, but most women are braindead and respond well to it

>>33471049
>women allowed to select for best genes freely
>anti human
If anything it is zoning in further into humanity's true nature as artificial barriers have been removed

>>33472253
>Also having a "personality" isn't necessarily a positive character trait
Good luck getting a girl while being bland, boring and having nothing interesting about yourself, lol. The fuck kind of logic is this?

>>33472261
Women are largely opting not to even procreate and the selection of men are largely not eugenic. Birthrates decrease as income increases with whites, meaning that the majority of those who are reproducing are not the best we have. Women are not selecting for the most intelligent chads. Stop repeating this imbecilic nonsense. Its a talking point from retards over 10 years ago at this point.

>>33468787 (OP)
You're probably just ugly lol
Being tall is only good if you are attractive (just like everything else)

>>33468787 (OP)
Of course they did

>>33468886
>consooming high protein slop and following the latest cope trends is being a man
Top kek

>>33468787 (OP)
Height is a multiplier applied to your base stats. If you're normal looking you'd be good looking if tall, you'll be bad looking if short.
End of the day a charismatic fatass gets laid more than a lanky chud (you).
Anecdote time: there was this faggot cuck when I was studying that was going out with a girl from class, the dude used to check other guys cocks in the showers and made dick rankings for his gf. Funnily the smallest dick guy was short and kinda chubby, still got laid a lot because he was the funniest one in class

>>33468787 (OP)
>My question is did the incels lie to me?
Because incels are trying to make sense out of something that is fundamentally unknowable.
The human psyche is infinitely complex and getting a girlfriend and female attention, in our age of collapsing social institutions, seems to boil down to sheer luck.

>>33468886
this is retarded
Actually you should KYS as soon as possible.
Getting a girlfriend isn't a goal you can attain. It's not like you can work hard and just get a girlfriend. It demands something of other people, for a woman to like you. You can't force a woman to like you, or work that into existence. If you had an IQ above 90 you would know this.

>>33469163
textbook gaslighting
>>33469591
How are you supposed to be exposed to women in 2025 America?
University, where they're all focused on their career and being party sluts? Church, where you're the youngest person there by 20 years? Or bars, where the same is true?

>>33470648
>You should.
It's impossible to know if a woman is 16, 18, or 22 in modern America. If you get unlucky and you cold approach a 16 yo you can get in trouble. Also this just doesn't work. If it does, enlighten me, how do you actually do it and where?
What's the solution for young men, say age 21-23, where a 16 yo could easily pass as a similar age, but in bars and places for 21+ all the women there are looking for older men?

>>33474382
Gaslighting
Women date ugly guys.
Women date disgusting, fat, ugly people.
Women date criminals.
Women date drug dealers.
Women miscegenate.
And these fucking people will say "oh, you're a tall, white, professional, young man and you're still single? you must have something SERIOUSLY wrong with you, you must be retarded!"
or
"you must be ugly!"
Do the world a favor and jump off a bridge

>>33476136
>If you get unlucky and you cold approach a 16 yo you can get in trouble.
If you're unsure of age, you ask. Young women don't really care about that question. And if she's too young, you immediately say "oh, sorry. I didn't know" and walk the fuck away. Simple solution. The mere ideation of this hypothetical tells me you've never even tried.
>Also this just doesn't work.
Niggers that never try anything or put in genuine effort love to give absolutes, lol.
>If it does, enlighten me, how do you actually do it and where?
Called it. First step? Forget about women. They are meant to be accessories to an already happy life, not to be the center of one. So first you focus on yourself. You find those hobbies or things that you love to do that take you outside the house. But you also introspect and determine who you truly are, what your life goals are, and what the man who's accomplished that (you) looks like at that point. Then you strive to be that. This self generated postive image and self generated drive builds...self generated confidence. Now you have the foundation to even start dealing with women in the first place, because you must be stable in yourself so a woman's ebbs and flows (they're inherently unstable being driven by emotion. This isn't a bad thing, this is just how they are). Whereas if you center your life on her, you're just riding the roller coaster of her emotions and you're *GOING* to fall off.

Next...you approach women you come across as you're doing those self generated things I just mentioned. The goal is finding someone who's game to come along where you're going. You already have direction. You don't even really *need* her. You just choose to want her. But a good thing to do while you're building your self generated ideals is talk to 2 women every day. Even if you're not attracted. Not with the goal of getting all their numbers, but simply building the skill of speaking to them.

>>33476136
>>33476179
Continued
>What's the solution for young men, say age 21-23, where a 16 yo could easily pass as a similar age
Already answered that in the first sentence. You could literally just make it part of the routine. When you're getting the number just ask every time. Again, young women do not care about that question.
>but in bars and places for 21+ all the women there are looking for older men?
False projection. Women do generally prefer older men, yeah but:
1. that's a maturity thing on both the man and woman's side. There are a fuckton of immature women
2. Stop pretending that women don't date men their age. Especially college chicks.
3. Being self driven with inbuilt confidence from following the things I said in my last post increases your maturity. That compensates for a younger age. Again, going back to maturity level.

But getting back to what I was saying about talking to 2 women a day. You need to build the skill of speaking to women in general, so when you do come across an attractive women...you don't fuck up the opportunity. The conversation is smooth and effortless. Also keep in mind: before the internet, all you could do to meet girls was network through friends/family...or cold approach. Men have had to do that for centuries. Idk why dudes have all of a sudden decided it doesn't work, lol. Most women...know other women. And most men know other men. Networking can't get everyone a relationship so cold approaching has its place.

>>33476179
>But you also introspect and determine who you truly are, what your life goals are, and what the man who's accomplished that (you) looks like at that point. Then you strive to be that. This self generated postive image and self generated drive builds...self generated confidence. Now you have the foundation to even start dealing with women in the first place, because you must be stable in yourself so a woman's ebbs and flows (they're inherently unstable being driven by emotion. This isn't a bad thing, this is just how they are). Whereas if you center your life on her, you're just riding the roller coaster of her emotions and you're *GOING* to fall off.
I've literally done all of this already.
Read my thread on the catalog, I am a 23 yo med student who is chronically single.
>>33476196
So your advice is to just strike up conversation with random women at the grocery store and ask for their phone number?
I can't network through friends and family because no one is having kids anymore so they don't know any women my age, let alone any single women my age.

>>33468787 (OP)
Just get leg shortening surgery, bro.

>>33476221
>I've literally done all of this already.
>Read my thread on the catalog, I am a 23 yo med student who is chronically single.
Do you truly have confidence, derived from what's inside you, not subject to external factors whatsoever? If so then you've got a big part of this work done already.
>So your advice is to just strike up conversation with random women at the grocery store and ask for their phone number?
Sorry, I wasn't very clear on this aspect. Yes and no. Speaking with 2 women a day isn't meant to get numbers directly. It's meant to exercise the muscle of speaking to women in general, regardless of outcome. This is why it doesn't matter if you're attracted or not. So just like you practice your instrument, you practice this. You're gonna fail, it's gonna be hard sometimes, sure. But when you *do* come across someone attractive, the conversation flows easily and effortlessly. You're best positioned to actually make good on the approach. Another reason you do 2 women a day is because you begin to build a mental profile of the type of woman that's even interested. Your "tribe" as it were. So over time, you stop talking to any and every woman. You begin targeting those ones who fit that mental profile you've built of women that respond well do who you are. That increases the success rate.

You might try finding places that accommodate classical music. Instrument or music store. Go to concerts. Idk. But your idea that "women don't like classical music" is very erroneous.

I don't know why it's so hard for chicks just to show a little bit of initiative, just a little bit of something that expresses interest other than just expecting all the juice for none of the squeeze.

Try and tell them something and it's all "love languages" and trendy language that was invented in the past two years to try and explain their feelings that were never misunderstood to begin with.

Y'all are a bunch of fucking retarded niggers. I ain't reading all that. I'll just have my gf lick my asshole again while I browse 4chan

>>33476145
Based