Thread 33508803

you ever get the “yeah youre right but it doesn’t change the way I feel” line? Aka I know what you’re saying makes sense but it doesn’t line up with my feelings? how are you supposed to deal with people like this? What the fuck dude it doesn’t seem to change either as you get older—these are people with fully formed brains. I just want to talk and treat adult women the same way I treat men but often times it seem like you literally can’t.

>>33508803 (OP)
The meaning is more "you may technically be correct, but you're being an asshole about it."

>>33508823
Argument was a while back with someone mad about something and me explaining the situation to them from my pov that I didn’t do anything wrong and then they told me I know youre right but it doesn’t change the way I feel I’m still upset at you. Great cool awesome

>>33508803 (OP)
Why are men so emotionally stunted?
Why is grass green?

It might be because something something evolution.

Next time, just acknowledge their feelings, maybe empathize a bit and stop being a mental sperg.

>>33508829
Men are REALLY autistic about this kind of thing. Your problem is that you're not listening to the thing you need to be listening to.

For example, a woman complains "We never go out any more". Husband puts on autistic hat and says "Well ACTUALLY, I think you'll find out that we went out just t six weeks ago. In fact, here are the dates and details of three separate occasions when we have gone out in the past year alone. Therefore you are clearly factually wrong when you say that we NEVER go out. Checkmate." And he feels really happy because he thinks he has won an argument.

Now, the man may be technically correct, here: it is not literally true that they NEVER go out. But to take what she said exactly literally and nitpick only about factual details is to completely miss the point. What the women is REALLY saying is "I'm bored, and feeling claustrophobic and miserable, and I would like it if we went out a bit more often." Given that she's feeling like that, turning the whole thing into a factual argument is incredibly unhelpful. What the guy should have said was "How about we go out to dinner this Saturday?" That would have made her feel happier and listened to.

In general, don't argue about details. Instead ask: how are you feeling, what's making you feel like that, and what can we do about it?

>>33508803 (OP)
You win the game by not playing. Getting sucked into emotions and arguing back and forth (different from debating logical points) is for women. As men, we say our shit, leave it at that, and keep moving forward. We proceed with what we were gonna do. Give them the space to fuck up by not listening. And make sure to tell them "I told you so" when things inevitably fuck up. They'll learn the hard way if they don't want to learn the easy way. Either way: you don't break your back trying to make a horse drink water.

But lets expand: you're basically saying:
>Why do these emotional beings....keep acting on emotions?
This is the reality of how women are. It's not good or bad. It just is. Either deal with it or get worn down because you don't accept reality. Again: you win the game by not playing into it. Stay above it.
>these are people with fully formed brains.
Most women don't mature past the age of 14. And very few make it *that* far. Keep that in the back of your mind. You might be dealing with a 8 year old in a 23 year old body. Do you argue with an 8 year old? Or do you say your shit and keep going? You have to keep the correct perspective on these things, anon.
>I just want to talk and treat adult women the same way I treat men but often times it seem like you literally can’t.
Newsflash: men and women are different. Who could've guessed it??

>>33508803 (OP)
>I just want to talk and treat adult women the same way I treat men but often times it seem like you literally can’t.
You are right, but not for the reasons you think. You're basically like an American who has gone to France and is complaining that the French seem to have a different word for everything. Yeah, they do; and if you want to communicate with them, sometimes you need to learn those words. Women communicate differently; the fact that you can't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong. Most of the time, women do a remarkable job of learning your language; but occasionally you need to learn something about theirs.

>>33508829
ya no shit

stop trying to debate women, it fundamentally doesn't work. it's like trying to beat a pitbull into a loveable dog

>>33508829
Okay, so, what do you think the woman was telling you that you weren't hearing?

>>33508803 (OP)
I won't read venting threads.

>>33508803 (OP)
This is why you don't argue with women, Its a losing proposition either way. If you "win" the argument she's still going to be upset with you so its pointless to even try. I recommend dating women who aren't argumentative and side-stepping the issue entirely.

>>33508803 (OP)
some sub humans would rather die than admit they were wrong
>I'll die on this hill
it's a type of ego survival, they wouldn't be able to learn/ change their mind because they doubled down already + their sense of self depends on holding certain beliefs that they established as correct (brainwashed to believe so), so pointing their mistake causes cognitive dissonance and anger

>>33508803 (OP)
>>33512623
I'll add to my post with actual advice:
the way to deal with this people is with disdain, smugness and utter dismissal of their humanity

>>33508914
Men don't just nitpick, women have a tendency to make completely incorrect, unfair, unreasonable, inflammatory accusations when they are in bad mood.

>>33512623
It's basically a problem with men taking women's words too seriously.

The best approach I ever heard that fixes everything is that women should be treated kind of like children. When a child throws a tantrum, you shouldn't take it personally, nor focus on explaining why they are wrong and stupid, but take it as a sign that there are unmet needs you need to figure out and attend to. A child wants to feel safe, loved and emotionally validated. As their guardian, you shouldn't be too vulnerable (women nope the fuck out if you reveal too much heavy feelings). You shouldn't shatter their innocence and fantastical worldviews too much with harsh reality (women can vote though). And most importantly you don't tell them this because nobody wants to be treated like a child.

>>33512950
>Men don't just nitpick, women have a tendency to make completely incorrect, unfair, unreasonable, inflammatory accusations when they are in bad mood.
Women simply communicate differently. The fact that you're even considering whether what she's saying is factually correct or not means you've completely missed what she's trying to communicate to you. What you should be asking is, what is she telling you about how she *feels*? Focus on that, and the entire argument is resolved instantly. Ignore that and she feels (correctly) that you're not listening to her and gets more upset.

>>33508803 (OP)
>illogical
logic is our monkey brains trying to rationalize various beliefs and wishes. you can get any result you want by swapping the assumptions and value systems you use.
feefees on the other hand are some lizard brain shit that was honed by evolution to be the most reproductively successful when we wuz in caves n shiet
got any examples that you're butthurt about? call me the pussy whisperer, since I can explain to your why her illogical woman brain felt the way it did

Bros at this point after dating and dealing with so many biological women and their unpredictability and their ability to flip flop or change their mind at any moment about anything, I’m thinking I might just take the tranny pill and date a shemale for a while and see how that goes. I already know I don’t want to get married to I don’t see any reason to not to for it at this point. I have been with over 30 women but the juice is just not worth the squeeze. The BS made some sense as a teen or a guy in my early 20s but it doesn’t seem like it ever actually stops like I assumed it would.