Thread 33513170

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>>33513133
>>33513138
No.

>>33513147
I know mine doesn't smell.

This shit is WWE for women lmao, the only difference is that they actually think it is genuinely real. Why are women so fucking stupid?

>>33513180
all foids have foid smell

>>33513182
I thought you were supposed to believe that you're the prize to have confidence and not get hung up when you're rejected.

>>33513170 (OP)
M or F
Do you know how to ride a bike?

>>33513182
Modern women are fucking delusional. They need a knight in shining armor to come to them on bended knee, to worship the ground they walk on and offer to make them landed gentry or else they're not interested.

>>33513188
F
Yes. Not like that though

Why are foids such evil scum?

>>33513194
take that back
they might be evil but scum is going too far

Hey I need to know if I'm being crazy. I've been with my boyfriend for over a year and I just checked my blocked messages and it shows that I received messages from an old fling last month, saying hi and that he missed me Would I still be able to see those if he had been blocked or did my boyfriend see them and block him in my stead?

Kissing femanons stinky neck

>>33513188
M
No. I tried when I was a kid, but never fully learned and never tried again. My balance sucks though.

>>33513197
Why does it matter?

>>33513194
KEKED

>>33513200
Because we have had history with him doing that and fighting about it

>>33513194
Anon she's not evil because she's a foid, it's because she's a gipsy.

>>33513194
why are you such a faggot?

>>33513203
Why is it a problem if he's blocking people you shouldn't be talking to anyway?

>>33513188
f
yes i can also swim, and glide for short distances with enough wind
>>33513198
good
dont wash it off either, it will protect you from rival females when you leave the house

>>33513182
Just watch the scripted idealized romance betwen the multimillionaires bro It's totally real and not marketing.

Women, did you have sex this weekend?

>>33513206
I just wish he wouldn't feel the need to do that. That guy is literally uglier than him with a bald spot. He has nothing to worry about

>>33513204
It's both
She's double evil

>>33513194
He should have thrown them both off the tower.

>>33513211
Doesn't mean anything. Women do stupid, crazy, destructive, ridiculous things all the time, and if those things blow up their lives and hurt everyone around them, that's even better.

>>33513211
typical foid gaslighting
we all know you only use chad to pump and dump so you can get with the short fat balding incel you REALLY want

>>33513170 (OP)
M or F
Have you ever been in a relationship that allowed you and/or your partner to have sex with other people?
Would you do it again?

>>33513211
NTA
Isn't he a fling tho?

>>33513210
no. not once in 2025

Women, why do you ignore my effort replies to your cringe hinge prompts? Am I really that ugly?

>>33513220
M
Yes
Maybe, it depends

>>33513216
I guess the mate guarding does make me feel loved

>>33513223
Why?

Why do these gay ass dating apps require me to have 17 photos of my self uploaded before I can actually use them?

>>33513220
F
No, and no I wouldn’t want that

>>33513225
be honest with yourself. ARE you?

>>33513218
NTA. Isn't the bald guy the hookup?

>>33513220
Male
I haven't and I never will. If my gf/wife even suggested it, that would be the end of the relationship.

>>33513232
I had a gf in the past that said I was cute so no

Women what are your fantasies or weird things that turn you on? I notice a lot of women are too afraid to talk openly about this stuff. it doesn’t matter what it is I’m curious to hear it and because it’s anonymous i don’t want a half assed answer. I have been with a lot of women and obviously a large percentage of them like choking during sex or bondage but that’s all fairly vanilla stuff. If that’s all you have at least try to explain why you think it gets you going. What do females coom over? I know at least 2 women I was with years back would watch porn and they had a thing for gangbangs.

>>33513229
im scared of getting an std, also im very awkward and dont approach men. but mainly scared of getting an std or some other disease.

>>33513210
No! And instead of joining my friends to see if I like a guy I’m going to work tomorrow

>>33513194
what was bro thinking. of course she doesn't love him

>>33513237
Four wheeler sex

>>33513211
>That guy is literally uglier than him with a bald spot
And yet you still put his cock in your mouth and moaned when he fucked you.

>>33513236
dating apps suck anyway, if you are seriously looking for a girlfriend i promise you wont find one on hinge of all places

>>33513220
M
I dated a girl who saw other guys. It was for a few months only.
Probably. It beats being alone.

>>33513237
i cant tell you that its too embarrassing
but if an outsider saw it with no context they would call the police

>>33513244
I used to bang uglier guys because of my low self esteem it's embarrassing

>>33513244
Kek. The fling got the younger pussy of hers and the current bf got the used up older version.

>I will never make a girl cum
Why even live?

>>33513249
>I used to bang uglier guys because of my low self esteem it's embarrassing
Sure, "low self esteem", whatever you want to call it.

>>33513256
would you agree to have an argument about womens rights where you take the position that they shouldnt have any but youre lying face down on the ground and im stood over you with an axe and i let you just keep ragebaiting me until i choose to win the argument by burying the hatchet in your skull if it made me cum

>>33513248
Tell us anyway :)

>>33513263
But it wouldn't

>>33513256
I don't understand the pic

>>33513182
I'm glad she has that for her.

>>33513263
nta but that sounds kind of exciting.

>>33513237
I mean, I masturbated to men humping train rails if thats what you had in mind.

>>33513237
Men use my fetishes and preferences to manipulate me so I'm wholely rejecting men.

>>33513270
He just enjoyed silly yt girls being silly yt girls back then but now he wishes she just acts like a silly yt girl and actually wants to meet, fall in love and move in together. I think.

>>33513210
Yes

>>33513242
What the fuck is that? >>33513276
Elaborate I don’t understand what you mean. Like you saw a video of this or you saw this in person?

>>33513277
Okay but that’s not what’s happening right now no one here knows you so it doesn’t matter. thanks for the lore I guess.

>>33513237
>obviously a large percentage of them like choking during sex
No.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jul/07/no-safe-way-risks-of-choking-during-sex

State gender
You're sent into an anarchist, walled of NY and have to get someone out in 24 hours. How do you proceed?

>>33513277
You were taking advantage of Ohio Anon. You pretended to offer empathy but you really just wanted to flick the bean while he told you about the abuse he suffered.

>>33513285
Call Snake Plissken ofc

>>33513237
>choking during sex or bondage but that’s all fairly vanilla stuff
Look, I *know* you're trolling, but for the benefit of people who don't: choking is about the most extreme form of BDSM that exists. I've known people who have been into every form of hardcore BDSM you can possibly imagine for decades but who still won't mess with choking because it is simply too dangerous.

"Vanilla". Go fuck yourself.

>>33513292
What abuse? He said he had a normal childhood and his previous relationship breakup was amicable.

>>33513284
Slop

>>33513283
Just a video. But I would not mind seeing it in person either.

>>33513295
I can back this. I don't even like choking. You guys are simply not traumatized enough.

>>33513188
Male
Yeah, although its been a while

>>33513295
Anon just means putting a hand on a girls throat, not that kind where you make someone pass out.

>>33513303
The abuse he suffered as a child. You masturbate to thoughts of children being abused, you sick fuck. Now you accuse him of being a liar just because he won't play your sick games anymore.

>>33513295
>>33513308
Wait why is choking so extreme? I'm into kink stuff but not really part of any community so I'm uninformed about reality

Why can't women be horses

Is the anon that was complaining about a TV being on in the break room yesterday here?

>>33513182
If anyone does this to a real person, where you are constantly looking up to them, that person starts to look down at you.

Women
Is a guy that works hard even at a relatively dead end job appealing? Or no?

>>33513322
Yeah

>>33513315
He said he wasn't abused. I'm half sure he lied about being buggered thinking that would manipulate me.

>>33513322
ideally, all men should work hard at dead end jobs

>>33513328
Why is that ideal?

>>33513239
Just ask them to get an std test, and put the legal document in your hand, and also use protection.

>>33513320
>yesterday
Anon complains about the break room most every day.

>>33513326
Nta but why would saying that manipulate you? Because it makes you more interested in him? Pretty weird.

>>33513316
Choking is part of riskplay because you can cause irrepairable damage and doctors will be able to tell that you do it so you should probably confess so you're not on their domestic abuse that they probably should have reported list.

>>33513194
Based gipsy protecting the gene pool

>>33513326
>being "buggered" isn't abuse, just something that turns you on
For fuck's sake. Imagine how you'd read a male poster talking the same way about a woman who was raped.

How would that story be told to manipulate you when he told that story before he knew you existed? His life doesn't revolve around you, you fucking narcissist.

>>33513244
I don't like the incorrect use of memes, and I particularly don't like the misuse of wifejak

>>33513334
No, saying you have fake trauma so I'd empathise with the fake trauma. He never went into explicit detail and I never asked him to.

>>33513336
Is it the windpipe specifically that can get damaged? I read the proper way to choke during kink is to put pressure on the sides of the neck rather than the center, to avoid actually choking your partner while still giving that sensation

>>33513342
>He never went into explicit detail and I never asked him to.
Then how do you know it was fake?

>>33513183
Is it a foul odor?

>>33513295
Are you retarded or trolling me or something? probably half of the women I’ve dated or fucked have asked me to “choke” them during sex it’s absurdly common. To the point it’s weird. I think it’s partially because of memed and shit that popularized it. yeah like the other guy said not to the point someone is losing consciousness or something but a thumb on one side of the neck and your fingers in the other side and some pressure seems to be what a lot of women ask for once they get comfortable enough to start making sexual requests. Trust me. That’s not even the weirdest shit at all I’ve heard

>>33513347
It's a pleasant scent, with mood boosting powers

I messaged my exgf yesterday, saying I was a bad guy, she replied that I wasn't bad
Today I left a voicemessage making a joke of it, we had dark senses of humors, and we'd make racist jokes/ shit like that, so I said "i regret making you say racist things" but my laugh sounded like a cry a little bit and she responded seriously, like "im sorry you feel that way, I thought of us differently"
Wtf she didn't get my joke or chose not to? Am I retarded maybe?

>>33513350
Oh, alright.
I thought it was like a weird "sweaty armpits *SNIFF* smell so *SNIFF* good" thing.

>>33513343
Not only, it's mostly your neck tendons and your jugular, which are the FIRST PLACE you check for a pulse on someone in case of an emergency. Because if they don't find a pulse there, they usually don't waste time checking a second place to enact emergency protocol. Choking burries that vein more/makes reading a pulse there harder.

Women, do (You) know the power of patriarchy? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yLicMjKagc

>>33513351
>Am I retarded maybe?
Yeah

>>33513352
I mean I also like that
But no foids just have a pleasant air about them

>>33513351
You are too apologetic and that makes her pussy dry

>>33513345
The fake crying.

>>33513263
Hot

>>33513353
Huh, that's interesting
I assume neck biting would have a similar effect? Or would it not put the same kind of pressure?
I appreciate you explaining, you're really knowledgeable

>>33513182
Isn't this the girl who flipped her position on men approaching women.

>>33513361
NTA. How'd you know the crying was fake?

>>33513363
Obviously nta, but I think you'd need to bite down quite hard to apply the same pressure as with your hand. Also, you could press down more things with your hands.

>>33513363
Similar effect yeah, so if you do choking and or neck traumatizing stuff for kink, you should probably have a medical bracelet say "CHECK PULSE ELSEWHERE: NECK TRAUMA" and then you'll probably get a brace placed on you regardless of the situation.

>>33513240
Where are your friends going?

>>33513371
It's the way he was doing it and the frequency.

men
how would you react if you met a girl off an app for a hookup but when you arrived at her place she told you she would only sleep with you if you disassembled her dryer and cleaned it out

>>33513237
>weird things
Sometimes hearing people burp rubs me the right way, back when I was younger I was really excited by the idea of someone being drunk/high and horny in my presence (but that lost appeal as I got more life experience).

I have always felt attracted to pregnant women and have always loved the idea of being pregnant myself, both in general and feeling sexy imagining it.

There are many kinks (notably voyeurism, being invited to watch a couple or catching someone masturbating and staying to watch) that I don't really fantasize about a lot but I am aware they "work" for me and if a situation like that happens irl it will excite me.

I love bisexual guys, crossdressing can be hot too. I don't actively fantasize about it but would jump at the chance to peg a willing guy or girl.

Weight gain can turn me on, both in myself and others, as can overeating. I like hedonism a lot. I love sex on drugs, especially psychedelics.

There is also a lot of flexibility where just because a kink does not appeal to me conceptually, that does not mean it won't turn me on if it comes up at the right moment, brought up by someone who really likes it. In general I love to hear people talk about sex and will enjoy any honest confession regardless of whether I can directly relate to finding it hot.

>>33513377
I've seen interviews with serial killers where they'll fake cry, but obviously lack any tears.

>>33513322
Yeah. You don’t have to aspire to progress forever. If you are content, stay

>>33513378
I'd assume she's lying and leave.

Girl I've been dating is finished college and leaving the country soon. I'll see her one last time in the next week. We both were aware that this would only be something short term upon starting it, but we both get on well and we do have feelings. Firstly I'll have to bring up the subject of the future with her at our last night, what's the best way to do this. Secondly, would it be a good idea to write her a letter and give it to her to be read afterwards?

>>33513378
Hey, she didn't ask me to put it back together again. So why not.

>>33513318
Why can't men have cool, flared penis heads?

>>33513351
>Wtf she didn't get my joke or chose not to?
Either it was just because of how you sounded (you do say yourself your laugh came out like a cry and attempting to joke about an earnest and difficult message is common) or because she felt you were trying to bond or even spark something again and she is looking for closure and moving on.

>>33513373
Hmm, I could see compressing more things with your hands, but I would imagine biting would be a stronger force generally
>>33513374
I see, that would be super awkward but maybe I should look into that if I ever get the vampire gf I've dreamt of. Although it would suck if she eventually struggles to find my jugular

>>33513282
NTA. Are you the femanon who was considering contacting an ex-fwb?

>>33513379
I agree with this anon. I think my main turn on is if something turns someone else on, so if I saw that something turned a guy on like crazy, I'd likely start to enjoy it too.

>>33513387
you must
>>33513385
she isnt

>>33513388
Our penises are bell shaped to scoop out other men's semen from your slutty pussies.

>>33513378
I'd probably do it because I'm afraid to disappoint people but I'd probably feel used and go home after. I don't want hookups anyways so I'd be looking for a relationship with you if I went to your house

>>33513386
It depends on what you want. If you are hoping she changed her mind and is open to either doing LDR or at least revisiting the option after she returns, you should start by stressing how much you like her and will miss her. If you are not looking for anything like that, I would just mention realizing this will be your last time together for the foreseeable future, and asking her how she feels about her upcoming move, is she excited etc.

I think the letter is a good idea and she will appreciate it, assuming it is positive and not angling for anything, just reflecting on the time you spent together.

>>33513388
Girls can wear fake ears and tails but we can't mutilate ourselves like that. It's not the same :(

>>33513399
Delete this.

>>33513360
But she was the wettest pussy i ever fucked even up until the last night. How could it dry up so fast?

>>33513380
Yeah everytime it sounded like whining and not real crying. Look, either he's severely autistic and doesn't want to admit it or a psychopath. I'm not taking any chances on that.

>>33513390
I'm not sure but I think that indeed, a bite can generate more pressure per square inch, it's just that strangling with your hands covers more surface.

>>33513403
You could wear a dick sheathe.

>>33513347
It depends

>>33513394
>you must

That wasn't part of the deal. In any case I would be looking for a hookup, not for a job, so I think I'd pass.

>>33513404
Look it up, it's true.

>>33513392
One of my people! I have often wondered if this is more common for women than men, it seems that way sometimes to me. I think a lot of women would prefer to do something the guy likes that gets him 11/10 horny over them being game enough to try their own favorite kink despite being palpably lukewarm about it.

>>33513401
aww you sound sweet :( dont feel used
>>33513413
whats the difference between paying for dinner and doing a little dryer dis&reassembly

>>33513378
The sex better be amazing

>>33513188
I was getting close but I had to stop and I never really got back to learning it good, not very bike friendly here anyways.

>>33513194
No..?

>>33513210
No, no, nope!

>>33513256
That's not your entire life's purpose, anon.

Gen X niggas really still be out here interacting with relationship advice content "How to keep him interested" lady you're pushing 60, give it up, it's over.

>>33513414
Idc. No cum talk this morning.

>>33513389
she sent a pretty earnest question. I remember her being very sarcastic herself and would tease me constantly, so I'm very surprised. I'm surprised she would be so sad even after a month. She's been on vacation living it up with family, friends, going to festivals. What, I can make a joke and she can't understand it all of a sudden?
Fuck, I really love her. She asked why I messaged, I said:
I have been trying to keep busy and not text you, but I had a moment where I just did it, I think about you every day.
She said she agrees we shouldn't talk to each other and to say my last words.

So fucking cold.

>>33513424
Oh, morning JH.

>>33513402
She's moving back to her country for the time being at least. (She says she could never leave her dad, although intends to live in a different city than him). She told me indirectly through her talking to her friends that I'm amazing and have set a really high bar for what she wants in a relationship.

I don't want to change her mind, she's going back home and that's that. I want to thank her for the time we've spent together, but also keep in contact and see how we both feel about each other in a few months and if there is something there then maybe we can work on it.

I will discuss this with her when I see. I just think a letter might be a more thoughtful way of expressing how I am feeling towards her.

>>33513318
Because everyone would be a half-breed of a zoophile.

>>33513416
I do think so. I feel like my sexuality is very much reactive anyways. Like the frequency, intensity etc. If I'm just left to my own devices, I masturbated maybe 1-3 times a month but give me a man I'm head over heels and my sexual appetite basically syncs up with his. Like I just want to become a pro at draining his balls, lol.

>>33513432
NTA. Based.

>>33513425
Unfortunately people both embracing or trying to embrace single life and feel sad about a break up happens all the time. I understand it feels ice cold, but she is deliberately trying to grieve the relationship and move on. Short term being this businesslike/dry is very cold but in the long term she would hurt you more if she went right back to joking and emotional heart to hearts with you and still reject you in the end. When from everything it sounds like she does want to move on. So then she needs to bite the bullet and being harsh but clear is ultimately kinder than sending mixed messages.

I'm sorry anon. It hurts like fuck, not for nothing so many songs are about heartbreak...

>>33513428
Good morning. Now delete that post.
>>33513437
It can be. I like the idea of a guy using a sheathe sometimes, but not all the time. The ideal would be that his dick is just like that.

>>33513332
at that point id rather just go without sex. celibacy isnt a huge deal to me

>>33513432
Based, and same

>>33513220
M
My gf hooks up with girls occasionally

>>33513419
That paying for dinner is easy, requires no effort on my part and I know how to do it, all of that can't be said about disassemble a dryer.

Also that's from your reply to the other anon, but it's hard not to feel used when you're supposedly looking for a hookup only to be denied of that unless you do something completely unrelated first.

>>33513170 (OP)
Are taller women on average more forgiving on height and more nurturing to their partner than average/short women?

>>33513378
try to identify her biggest hangup and take revenge by using it against her.
like if she's afraid of getting shamed publicly I would be sure to get her to repeat under video record, then upload it to the internet

>>33513431
Yes and?

>>33513419
>dont feel used
But that's your intent isn't it?

>>33513441
False

>>33513414
>some professor sold his fantasies as science
>its parroted by other creepy losers endlessly
it's nonsense

>>33513432
Nice and yeah, this is something I don't relate to as strongly (though I could also definitely have sex every day and won't quickly masturbate every single day) but I know from friends this is far from uncommon and it does make total sense to me. Like when you are with a person and especially, as you say, if you are crazy about them, you are just given lots of sexy fuel, feedback, new ideas, it is only natural to me that this would also make your sex drive explode and to an extent it is natural for everyone I think, like how most couples will easily have lots of sex in the honeymoon phase and things change afterwards. But I think for women it is not uncommon either that apart from that honeymoon phase, they are always more reactive as you say.

>>33513378
>she would only sleep with you if you disassembled her dryer and cleaned it out
I don't know how it's done

>>33513444
>disassemble a dryer
I actually had to do that with mine last month to replace several parts after the handyman quoted me like $500 for the work. As it turns out it wasn't nearly as difficult as you'd think, just watch some youtube videos and order the parts off Amazon.

>>33513450
>it's nonsense
Evidence?

>>33513332
also what guy is actually willing to do this lol. they just want to hookup in the moment. most guys would rather just find some other to fuck rather than spend a few weeks waiting for std test results

>>33513445
Your mom fetish is cringe

>>33513455
Nta
Women really think like this.

>>33513445
Kind of useless answer I know, but from my limited experience tall women are pretty split on it. Some care much less about height because it is a lot less common for men to be very tall in comparison anyway so they are used to being closer together or taller than others. But there's also tall women that are very insecure about their height and have an attitude like "it's one thing if I have to accept being the tall lanky woman in 9/10 situations, but with my own partner goddamnit I want to feel dainty and feminine" so they care a lot about him being taller.

In general I think it's better to focus on who appeals to you and leave it to them to discourage you, than to speculate in advance though. If you hit on a woman taller than you and she responds favorably then apparently it's fine with her right?

>>33513444
>>33513448
:( its not my fault this >>33513453 anon gets it SEE i knew it was a scam itll be so easy and ill be soooo grateful you can even have half up front if youre worried about me reneging
>>33513446
profoundly unsafe male
>>33513452
its easy

>>33513453
Yeah, I know it isn't that hard and that there are many videos around, but I'm sure I'd still mess up somewhere. And I certainly wouldn't do it to earn a hookup.

>>33513444
Yeah but the dryer is all there and it's just do and undo action, they will understand if it doesn't run after reassembly due to you being an amateur, it was just a nice attempt, and costs a little time and no money.

>>33513455
nta, I would assume if you're in a long term relationship it's no big deal, I don't think the guys and girls doing hookups are carrying their papers around or expecting it though.

>>33513449
they celibacy part? yeah i get phases of being crazy horny but it passes. i have no interest in hookup culture

>>33513455
Most apps even have "last date tested" as a part of the bio

>>33513460
It's not about you reneging, the problem is that we're supposed to meet for a hookup. If I call you to have a drink, then tell you that you have to help me out moving my furniture first, you'd probably think that having a drink was just an excuse.

>>33513455
>>33513458
NTA but she's not wrong. I don't think it's just guys either. Internet taught me that it's a totally normal thing to ask and share test results before unprotected sex but I have not once of people doing this irl in another situation than "we were hooking up with condoms and now we want to get exclusive and use other BC".

>>33513464
ive been single and celibate for a while now and i prefer it over hookup culture and relationships. its all too much effort. you get me?

>>33513461
I suppose for me it would depend on what she wanted fixed, I know a lot of jury rigging tricks to make a washer or dryer go another few days so I'd probably just do one of those and lie to her if it was a hookup.

>>33513469
99% of guys will wait a week for the results because it shows she wants to fuck

>>33513473
wtf
this has to be some kind of rape

>>33513463
If it's so easy, why does she need her hookup to do it? Do you think that a person who would do that would be "understandable" of an amateur attempt? I don't care about time and money, I care about being used and saying that I got a good deal because the hookup did what we were supposed to do anyway.

>>33513458
am i wrong ??? if you were about to fuck a girl and she was like "wait i need proof you're clean" would you really go pay for an std test, wait three weeks for the results and show them to her? or would you just say fuck it and move onto the next.

>>33513460
Girl I don't wanna spend my night on a dryer I wanna have a fun time with dinner and something romantic
If we become a couple then I'll clean your dryer on nights we don't have dates

>>33513469
condoms aside, im too germaphobic to even kiss a male stranger out of fear of getting herpes or a mouth disease. i dont know how people do it. i see people making out with eachother at clubs and i genuinely cant understand how they do it

>>33513474
It's not so much about the waiting I think but just everything about it. Depending on where you live it could cost you money, which could be frustrating to people e.g. if you didn't even have sex since last time you got tested. Where I lived it's covered by general health insurance, but it would be a pain in the ass to get an STD test short term if you're not in a risk group, and even then they will test only for the most common stuff, you won't get tested on hiv if you have not egaged in specific behavior (intravenous drugs, men having unprotected sex with men etc) that would make that more likely.

>>33513484
To be fair, herpes can be transmitted without kissing even, by sharing a drink for example.

If the idea of being intimate with someone simply does not appeal to you until after you have grown to trust/enjoy them to a point where they feel more familiar and not as icky, obviously there is no reason to push yourself to have casual sex anyway, though.

>>33513475
One of the things I believe in is that you don't do boyfriend work for friend pay and certainly not for hookup pay.

>>33513182
Men are retreating from relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens, everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable and if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there, in the void, that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness, the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen. Once. As she is in the dark, without distortion, without irony, without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges and where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream, and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire, as visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

>>33513456
My mom is actually pretty short.
>>33513459
I just found in my experience that taller women are the only ones who even give me the time of day. It has admittedly made me attractive to them at least the skinny awkward ones.

>>33513376
Yakiniku place. Like grill foods. Now I’m hungry..

>>33513478
Yes, you're so wrong it's unreal... First it's a week at most and secondly it's gonna take week+ to find a new girl to shag when you're already willing

>>33513493
Also you'd let us do it raw which is always a plus, even if I find a another chick she might insist on a condom which ruins the sensation. Secondly I'm sure I'd get you to jerk me off at least if you're willing to fuck me based on clean results

>>33513493
you wouldnt be put off at ALL if a girl asked you to get tested?

>>33513493
Not her and this might be the case on dating apps, but a lot of hook ups are spontaneous. There's a high chance after the guy got home and slept off being drunk, the idea of sex with this person he doesn't know does not even appeal that much anymore, let alone going to the doctor to prove himself worthy to her.

>>33513465
What about a long term monogamous partner who shows up once in a while, but absolutely smashes you into a puddle when they do?

I'm just gonna remain no-sex until I meet the right person and then we can just be safe and exclusive with each other.

I mean when the solution to not having STDs is that simple I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.

>>33513494
i would not touch a dick that i dont know for sure is clean. i dont know where you stick it in your free time

>>33513498
if i had a long term monogamous partner who was clean we would be smashing on the daily

>>33513490
ok bye! no one cares

>>33513210
Not yet. Going out with friends this weekend and I will 100% say okay to sex if they ask.

>>33513500
Handjobs are STD free...

>>33513499
EXACTLY!!!!! you have the right idea. like yeah celibacy sucks sometimes but it minimizes your risk of getting aids to zero so its worth it imo

Women
Is it normal for an almost 27 year old male virgin to want love, intimacy, and romance above sex?

>>33513478
nta - i always make a new partner give me a clean bill of health before i fuck them. condoms only unless we're in a long term relationship. this is how i'm 35 with a high body count and std-free.

>>33513505
what if i get a wart or something. also are handjobs even that enjoyable for men? like YOU know what you like. i dont

>>33513483
Clean clothing is fucking romantic you disgusting thirdworld mud person.

>>33513508
No, kill yourself.

>>33513508
Yes.

I like feeling my cute cock throbbing in my hard as i orgasm and shoot my cummies all over the floor and feet :3

>>33513499
This is how you end up a 40 year old virgin.

>>33513496
No, not if I think she's hot

>>33513510
Anonette how old are you? Don't you have sexed or something....

>>33513490
This is all factually true and it has made me ignore advances from women despite being actually conventionally attractive which is something many guys would die for. I wish I wasn't a hentai addict but it's the only place where I can get an external path to the eros that forms into some kind of deeper spiritual love even if in a sense it's still pandering to my ego and not a higher cause. Most men crave to die something above themselves while women are stuck on trying to use men for material gain.

>>33513520
id rather be a 40 year old virgin than die of aids or some shit

>>33513447
You really like them, don't you.

>>33513510
>are handjobs even enjoyable
Driving along a scenic mountain road is enjoyable but you've got to be alert and focused so you can manage turns, lanes, other cars, etc. Being a passenger as someone else drives you along a scenic mountain road is a lot more relaxing.

i love my chadlet bf he's cooking me breakfast right now

anons gender and do you /would you ever make breakfast for your partner? what would you make?

>>33513188
I kind of stand when I ride
F

>>33513529
M
of course, I would make her er... well whatever she asks me to make her

>>33513524
im old enough and plus i just looked it up and you CAN get diseases from giving handjobs

>>33513510
he's just filth that's desperate for sex and conceding ground as his goal of free sex is losing, so now he's negotiating for the next thing.
it's why sex predator pozzers and goatfuckers are on the same spectrum. they just go for what they can get
it's just one attempt after another get their willies off

>>33513519
Who doesn't like you doing that?

>>33513534
>im old enough
Just find your first real relationship first and let divorced adults sleep around....

>>33513520
I'd rather be a lifelong virgin than to ruin myself. I'm not a virgin anyway, I've had one partner, and I regret having sex before marriage every day because of it.

>>33513529
eggs, french toast, sausage, coffee, oatmeal, orange juice.

>>33513536
i think they even get off on the fact that we are doing something PURELY for their pleasure even if it doesnt feel that good for them

>>33513529
I peep your brag sis how old is he? To make him wear just an apron. If not you should
I like making my boyfriend and I smoothie bowls, breakfast burritos and biscuits and gravy

>>33513519
Would you like to be raped?

>>33513536
I'm clean you ape, giving an STD without disclosing it is considered battery

>>33513526
Your choice. You don't have to pick one of the extreme options though.

>>33513529
M
If I ever manage to be in that situation yeah, I'd love to make her breakfast. I'd want to know her favorite one, but if not I'd try to do different things every day.

>>33513527
Don't you?

>>33513545
yes but only by a woman

I don't ever want to have sex again

>>33513552
Then don't are you dumb

>>33513544
We're in our 30s. He has some aprons, but only when he's cooking stuff that is messy, lol

>>33513552
I know the feel. Somedays I get a bit hopeful and think maybe there is someone out there for me but other days when I'm more depressed I'm like that too.

>>33513529
I used to make breakfast for my ex and all I can think about is how you're gonna leave him anyway.

I dont get women.
shes probably lying but still
>have 2 dates with a girl
>dont make an effort to hide my smoking habit
>date 3 ask her to a hotel
>she says no
>afterwards texts me "I dont like that you asked me to a hotel and that you smell of cigarettes"
i think the hotel thing is normal by date 3 and the smell of cigarettes ive had since day 1 so why even go on 2 more dates if you hate smokers?
dont understand it

okay genuine question for guys. do you actually approach girls in public. am i hideous or do guys just not approach girls regardless of their looks. is it me or you guys

>>33513560
keep your fanfictions in your diary hon

I've only had sex with one girl but atoga keeps calling me a manwhore...

>>33513188
M
>Do you know how to ride a bike?
Yes. But nowhere near as well as she does.

>>33513316
>Wait why is choking so extreme?
(NTA) BDSM done correctly has a very strong focus on consent and *safety*. If you're going to do any kind of BDSM activity, you need to become an expert on it: you need to learn how to do it safely, learn what to do, learn what can go wrong, learn how to avoid that.

For example, if you're going to hit someone with a cane, you need to know exactly where on the body it is and isn't safe to hit; how much damage a given amount of force will do, and what things can affect that; you need to know what type of cane is safe to use and what isn't; you need to know what kinds of things might affect your aim, or cause you to do more damage than you mean to, and so on.

The problem with choking is that, no matter how expert you are, there simply ISN'T a safe way to do it. I posted a link about this higher up. From there:

>Now thought to be the second most common cause of stroke in women under 40, it can also lead to difficulty swallowing, incontinence, seizures, memory problems, depression, anxiety and miscarriage.

That's the kind of thing that can happen with choking even if you *do* know what you're doing. And, incidentally, the damage is cumulative, so even if you seem to get away with it once and then do exactly the same thing another twenty times, subtle damage (including permanent brain damage) is steadily accumulating each time.

>>33513561
What's not to get? She gave you a few dates and you don't match what she's looking for and she told you that directly. Man to man- what the fuck?

>>33513562
I think it is pretty rare unless you are in a party or something like that

>>33513564
manwhore is a state of being

>>33513536
The sheer rationalization.
You, YOU don't like sex.
Even sex that meets your requirements.

You make those requirements high because you assume others will balk, and use that to sheild your ego from the truth about yourself.
You still reject sex when others meet your requirements.

We're literally unable to get std's in this mongolian basket weaving forum, so you feel safer talking about, but can't leave your baggage behind.

>>33513561
it was just the hotel thing. she just added the cigarette thing to soften to blow i guess

>>33513564
Don't take it too seriously, all women are whores anyway.

>>33513348
>probably half of the women I’ve dated or fucked have asked me to “choke” them during sex it’s absurdly common.
It being common doesn't make it safe.

>>33513570
why did she waste my time when she knew from the beginning im a smoker?
if im dating someone thats religious and they tell me date one it stops right there

>>33513574
yeah I think that too. but im not looking for a sexless relationship either so

>>33513572
Men can't even be whores

>>33513425
Breaking up takes effort, she's just putting in the work. I'm sorry bro. I know it sucks to realise things aren't gonna be the same, but they're just not.

>>33513573
>this sputtering seething and coping
lmao
lol

>>33513561
I assume you mean you wanted to go to a hotel to fuck, in which case I'd say that's not normal.

>>33513578
mind you two years celibate reading this.

>>33513561
or she felt like she could put up with the smoking until you asked her to go to a hotel and then she was like, this isn't worth it. consider that we often make concessions in relationships but there is a point where we're going to call it because it's TOO MANY.

>>33513343
>Is it the windpipe specifically that can get damaged?
The carotid bodies are very vulnerable, and so are the arteries themselves. You can also trigger blood clots that lead to strokes.

>>33513581
ok moidslut

>>33513586
yeah but thats also strange, what was she thinking, a sexless relationship?

>>33513574
also why did you ask her to go to a hotel on the 3rd date. has that EVER worked out for you?

>>33513562
I don't right now, but I want to start doing it.

>>33513580
>why did she waste my time
get over yourself. she didn't waste your time, she gave you a chance it took 3 dates to figure out she didn't like what you had to offer. if she didn't like your smoking she may have tabled that as something she might be able to compromise for, but by date 3 she didn't feel it was worth compromising for.

she didn't do you wrong at all. get over yourself

>>33513561
I would hate being asked for a hotel stay on 3rd date

>>33513591
yeah. 3rd date hotel is my usual go to, always works except this time and 1 time before

if they dont want sex by the third date theyre clearly not physically into you.

I was going to go outside in the sun, but it started raining. Now what?

>>33513562
F but i used to get cold approached a fair bit a decade ago, never anymore. and i think i look almost the same or better now. i think the me too movement and then covid made men far more hesitant and the effects of that never went fully away

>>33513556
Oh I thought you meant he was young not short. Cute anyways

>>33513590
sex on the 3rd date in a fucking hotel? i would have ghosted you, you sound like a nasty trashy moid more suited to fucking prostitutes

>>33513562
>do you actually approach girls in public
Fuck no.

>>33513595
im up for alternatives but theres got to be sex by the third date or shes just not physically interested

>>33513599
Stay in and enjoy the sounds and smells of rain.

>>33513600
as a guy I'll second this with my observation: guys don't encourage other guys to make a move anymore.

>>33513589
I can't be a slut if I've only had sex with my crush

>>33513600
i wasnt of approaching age before covid so it sucks ill never experience that. sounds like it was nice. i hate to admit that i crave some exterior validation

>>33513603
all women are prostitutes

>>33513562
Women told us that that was harassment, so we don't do it anymore.

>>33513603
which date number is for sex?

>>33513609
typical lying moid

>females in this thread dont even wanna put out by the third date
im sure prince charming will wait 7 dates for you, meanwhile hes fucking sluts on the side as hes """waiting""" for you to be ready

>>33513188
M
Yes

>>33513613
this forum makes me think we really do need a cure for autism

>>33513616
Stop projecting.

>>33513606
or she only feels comforting giving her body to someone shes been around more than three times??? are you slow? not everyone views sex as a casual thing

>>33513614
Lying? How...

>>33513611
you sound like a keeper! can't imagine what problem she would have had with such a charming moid

>>33513619
That is not an answer

>>33513220
M
No and no

>>33513616
okay sorry you have no self control and are driven by lust

>>33513220
F
Yes, yes

>>33513616
me and my man waited 2 weeks after we were exclusive.m, after being friends and knowing each other for 2 years. we're in a very happy sex filled relationship now and we're both glad we waited.

>>33513606
iiish… you do you I guess

>>33513439
>>33513582
The way I met her was just so random, so serendipitous.
I talk to girls all the time, try to take them out, get their number, whatever, it never works. The only girls I get come from some portal that appears when I least expect it. Suddenly, there's this girl who appears who likes me and its so obvious and either I think she's attractive or not (9/10 not), so this is the 1/10 and it's fucking horrible because it started so fiery and fast and she opened up to me a lot and said she felt safe with me and I thought this was it, this is my wife, but then NO! NO WAY FUCK YOU ANON FUCK

>>33513625
trying to reason with mentally ill people suffering from black and white thinking, it's just not worth my time desu

>>33513600
>and i think i look almost the same or better now.
Just saying that despite thinking it has indeed become less common and more stigmatized to cold approach in general, it also matters a lot how old you are, not just for how youthful you look but also just how vulnerable and "easy" you look. If guys can tell from your eye contact you will recognize and shoot down bullshit, they are a lot less likely to approach too. I used to get that deer in headlights look whenever strange men made eye contact and it very often was the trigger for them to approach me, I guess it made them feel less intimidated.

>>33513616
Yeah, they would. you should think higher of your own gender

I'm a good partner, but a bad date.
The first time I had sex took forever because I was so fucked up about it, and it took weeks after that before it actually became enjoyable for either of us. I only got away with being such a head case because I was a virgin (consensually speaking, at least). But I've aged out of that expectation now, the next person is just gonna see me as being a pain in the ass fucking weirdo.

Do I even bother, or should I just go live in a cave? How would you feel if you were dating what seemed to be a cool, normal person who suddenly started acting like a fucking weirdo the moment things start getting sexual? All the teary-eyed Lifetime movies and SVU episodes, nothing fucking prepared me for how plain embarrassing this reality would be.

>>33513634
> sex on the 3rd date in a fucking hotel? i would have ghosted you
seems pretty black and white to me

>>33513630
yeah Im sure he "waited" for you
sex is a good enjoyable thing
you shouldnt have some arbitrary waiting period for the heck of it

but you do you, im not dating you so not my problem

>>33513562
I don't know any guys that have approached random women, it's always someone they know from work or school, and they talk to them regularly first

why are cute girls in their mid 20s always dating disgusting boring yuppies in their mid to late 30s who have hit the wall already?
It can't be personality either because they're all fucking boring and meek too

as a moid I would have never have had sex if women hadn't been so direct and aggressive.
I know for a fact I would have dated my crush and not expect sex until we were married if things had gone down that route.
She instead told me clearly she was sleeping over before the start of our second date

>>33513643
>anon seething about that girl that rejected him then started dating and older guy again
Lol

>>33513639
that's called a dealbreaker, and it has nothing to do with the number, and everything to do with the assumption that i would be down (because you already booked the hotel) and the fact that you want it in a HOTEL as if i'm a hooker. nah lmfao i respect myself too much to fool around with greaseballs like yourself

>>33513643
Beta providers.

>men want to have sex with people they like instead of waiting forever
the horror

getting major reddit vibes today from this place

>>33513643
millenial men are weathered survivors while you are still soft and doughy

>>33513643
look at the way you are conducting yourself. why would a cute girl in her 20s want you. also girls typically like older guys.

>>33513643
Generalizing won’t stop you from being incel, be better

>>33513649
you're confused. reddit is the place that pushes for constant casual sex with anything and everything

>>33513600
>>33513610
Kek. You foids wanted this and now you're complaining? Absolute dumb cunts.

Women
Legitimately where can I ask you out? What is an appropriate place? Bonus points if it's introvert friendly. The only place I go with any regularity is the book store

>>33513647
You are just too simple. I asked a question and you made up 100 assumptions and got defensive

>>33513649
No one said it was either or. You are dumb, and you are definitely not above reddit

>>33513655
at the same time theyre all for women making men wait
you'll find losers who wait 8 dates before having sex, whilst that same girl gave it up for chad day 1

>>33513643
Men under thirty can't even form a coherent thought thats not based on self pity.

>>33513600
You've got several problems
>you're older
the ratio of single men to single women has shifted, most guys who are dateable or even fuckable don't have to look.
>MeToo
women tend to go on petty revenge sprees to sate their ego instead of just making up a lie about having a boyfriend these days
>Covid
people just don't go out much for socializing anymore, plus in your late 20s and 30s social outings naturally shift to being at people's place of residence, which means it's less likely you'll run into strangers.
>self esteem
zoomer guys deal with being constantly demonized and shit on by every media they consume and every authority figure they interact with, combine that with unrealistic standards in everything from appearance to earning power and it's no wonder these guys are variously neurotic wrecks or spiteful bastards who think the Screwfly Solution didn't go far enough. Fun fact, steroid use was virtually unknown among high school students in 2010, today 15% of zoomer guys have admitted to steroid use in the past year.

>>33513657
Everyone is online nowadays. Idk, discord servers. Some girls have dated/fucked guys in the ones I frequented.

>>33513638
>How would you feel if you were dating what seemed to be a cool, normal person who suddenly started acting like a fucking weirdo the moment things start getting sexual?
I would dump her on the spot. Not because she had issues with sex, but because she didn't trust me enough to tell me about them sooner.

>>33513610
i struggle with dysmorphia and have massive insecurities so getting complimented by strangers and approached for dates really helped affirm that i was a normal looking person

Why are men so driven by lust, whereas women have self control. If it was truely a scientific thing surely there would be more information and research about it. it really feels like all men care about is sex.

>>33513667
Nta but why would she overshare to a total stranger? Are you retarded?

>>33513643
Mid twenties for women is right around the age where most either sincerely develop new priorities for a partner (stability, communication skills, emotional intelligence, similar life goals/preferences, nice family, stable job) or they feel pressured by friends and family to at least compromise between what they just feel most attracted to and what makes sense for planning out your life.

Of course some of those guys that will seem boring to you will also just be very different when alone with the person they trust the most. A lot of guys act more straight-laced, unemotional, average and so on in public than behind closed doors. But if they truly are boring it'll probably be because they are a dating choice that makes sense in terms of lifelong compatibility.

>>33513657
>Legitimately where can I ask you out?
Anywhere where people go to socialise rather than for any other reason.

>>33513670
There is information on it, you're just not looking for it. And btw, it's actually based that it is that way.

>>33513657
Idk, odds would be low. only place that would fit with outside and introvert is a game cafe.

>>33513638
>the next person is just gonna see me as... a weirdo.
They will find it endearing

>>33513529
I think he'd just like an egg and a meat. If he even does breakfast.. It sounds like he mentally struggles with mornings just like I do.

>>33513657
try bars
only barsluts there tho, not exactly wife material usually

>>33513549
I never got into that stuff.

>>33513671
>Nta but why would she overshare to a total stranger?
If we're having sex, she's hardly a total stranger.

>>33513644
I'd have said we weren't having that second date.

>>33513668
i would kill for affirmation that im a normal looking person in the real world

>>33513657
I feel most any place other than the obvious ones (like a funeral service) or their own work place where they have very limited room to express their real feelings and cannot physically walk away. Also you're better off not approaching strange women on the streets at night with few people around just to make sure you don't scare her.

Being approached when you're busy, having a bad day or simply not interested in the person is fine. It is only annoying if the guy insists on not taking no for an answer, like brushing it off when you mention it's not really a great time.

>>33513643
>yuppies

>>33513682
Opening up about your sexuality is a process too that takes time and trust. You can't demand trust, only earn it.

hey normies, how was your friday night orgy?

>>33513675
based for whom? would it not be better if men and women were equally sex driven. then no one would be bitching about how hard it is to fuck

>>33513683
FWIW I am in a long term relationship with someone who is not a stable choice and while I don't regret it one bit, people trying to shame you for it is a real thing.

Things get much easier when you realize that women are eternally children, and act accordingly.

>>33513692
this

>>33513689
It was great. He came buckets.

>>33513694
>he
>not they
fucking casual. and by that i mean noob.

>>33513690
Based for evolution. Male sexuality is based to trying to impregnate as many wombs as possible, female sexuality is based on trying to get impregnated by the most chad man available.

>>33513689
Guess I’m not a normie then. Good to know

>>33513688
>Opening up about your sexuality is a process too that takes time and trust.
It can take as long as you like; but it's something that you need to do *before* you have sex for the first time.

I just wait for bitches to approach me first now. Putting in effort for used up pussy is not worth it.

All I want is a girl to cuddle and makeout with but girls just want sex without emotional connection cuz feelings make them anxious

>>33513698
He has enough dick to count as two men at least.

>>33513665
How? I don't even know how to find discord servers let alone how to make friends on one
>>33513674
Examples? I don't go out much, or at all
>>33513676
Game cafe like those places where you rent a gaming PC for a bit?
>>33513686
So anywhere barring an obvious inappropriate setting like a doctor's office or funeral service like you said? I don't think I'd be annoyingly persistent but I'm awkward so I might be on accident

Also I should have asked but do women even want to be approached?

>>33513670
>self control

>>33513670
>If it was truely a scientific thing surely there would be more information and research about it.
There has, you just haven't read it.

>>33513692
Eh. What gets easier? Sounds like you are admitting to being a pedophile

>>33513670
I'm built different, I have a craving for romance and cozy relationship stuff

>>33513326
That’s just completely mentally ill of you to say. If he ever does come around here again, I hope he talks about you the same way.

>>33513707
>how
Idk, join random servers you stumble across adjacent to your interests and check them out. Get to know the people, the dynamics and be someone that makes a positive contribution to the vibe. It's really not that hard.

>>33513710
It becomes easier to understand why women behave the way they do when you realize that they haven't progressed mentally beyond the age of 8-12 years old.

>>33513705
Wasn't it usually the opposite..?

its joever, ill never meet another 8/10 that falls in love with me instantly
best i can pull is a 6

>>33513657
German grocery stores. You can pick up the cart with the heart on it and look for other women with the heart on it, indicating that they're single looking to mingle.

>>33513711
liar

>>33513681
>That stuff
I hope you got into YOUR stuff, something at least.
Seems sad if you didn't find your thing.

>>33513707
Ye. Game cafe, rent a spot and play, maybe I would be open to chat

>>33513719
Lol

>have date with a girl
>seems to go well says she hate clingy men
>text her the next day anyway to ask for a second date
>ghosted
>months pass
>she texts me an appologizes for replying so late
>ask her out again
>she says shes busy but will let me know in august when she has time
>its mid august still no response
its joever isnt it?

>>33513720
I promise I'm not lying, I've wanted it my whole life

>>33513182
God I hate women

>>33513692
This

>>33513714
Nah it sounds like you want women to be children

>>33513672
I'll just stick with college dating I guess, der schooler would be proud

>>33513707
>Examples?
Bars, parties, book clubs, societies, stuff like that. Places where you go to interact with people. So not a shop, for example: people go there to buy stuff, not to talk.

>>33513724
What kind of fucking idiot ghosts you for months only to say "sorry, I'll let you know when I care enough to meet up 5 minutes with you"?

>>33513728
youre just being obtuse because you cant deal with the reality of what he says

>>33513707
>Also I should have asked but do women even want to be approached?
Everyone wants to be approached by the right person and not by someone unpleasant. It's like asking if they even want a conversation - a fun one is almost always welcome, a boring or awkward or hostile one not.

Obviously you usually have to talk a bit to even know if you like the stranger in front of you. There's people (extraverted, spontaneous, open) that really enjoy this part so yeah they like being appraoched even if there's no attraction. Then there's people that are awkward with strangers/small talk and they will not like going through it, but most will in the end realize they do still want to meet people they could have lots of fun with so getting through the awkward stage first is a necessary evil. And people in between who don't have strong feelings on it I guess.

>>33513724
bro please get a hold of yourself. stand on business. you dont reply to someone after they ghost you for months

>>33513706
You are a keeper.
Go squeeze his butt, and don't tell him why.

>>33513724
It was over from the months passing.

>>33513724
you are so retarded i actually feel bad for you

>>33513735
she was really cute so i clinged on the miniscule chance it would lead somewhere

>>33513715
Girls just want sex

>>33513724
nah man I am sure she was busy for months on end and is really interested you DUMB DUFKC

>>33513736
Will do.

>>33513722
You wouldn't be focused on your game? I thought they were mostly for competitive games you have to focus on
>>33513730
I guess I need to find more places like that. The only groups I've seen around here are not co-ed

>>33513707
>Game cafe
Nta
https://tokengametavern.com/
This is the one I think of

>>33513738
>>33513739
>>33513743
when I asked /atoga/ whether or not to reply to her after months of ghosting it was split 50/50

>>33513719
They did the half heart thing on Valentine's day here when I was in high school. No girl approached me lol

>>33513633
Wuf, I've been there. I was abroad for work at the time, damn near resigned to celibacy by then. Got told "this job can be a bit wild, you'll probably get hitched before you go home." I thought "yeah bloody right."
Then I met someone who saw right through me. I didn't want a bar of it at first, but they persisted and I relented. Next thing I know we've been together a while and I'm planning our future, thinking about where we're going to settle, where we'll send our future kids to school, how often we'll visit our families (both of which are already throwing confetti thinking this is it). Then out of nowhere, as quickly as I was picked up I was dropped. ME. I wasn't even the one clamouring for it to begin with! Suddenly I'm on my own again, every inkling of my(/our) future now ripped away and needing to be retuned.
It fucking sucks. But speaking as someone from the other side of heartbreak, it's probably a kindness in disguise that she's cutting you off rather than dragging this out, because she could drag you to the end of the fucking earth all for nothing if she wanted to.
The pain is the pain. It's powerful, but it's finite if you allow it to be. You can either have a little over a long time, or a lot over a little time. Feel it for what it is as the opportunity arises, don't bury it, because it'll only evaporate once it's been felt. Then with any luck you'll be able to conceive of a new future ahead of you.

>>33513741
base a girls value off her personality and substance not her JUST her looks. in fact ugly girls will probably be better because they dont have a million guys chasing them

>>33513748
it was already too late by then you gargantuan dunderhead

>>33513744
Unfathomably based

Femanons, do you pay for dates?

How should I approach a guy in public? Whats a line you as a guy would want to hear. Nothing creepy or sexual.

>>33513752
yeah, but im not sexually attracted to ugly women so thats a no go
and in my experience ugly women are just as if not more difficult than hot ones.
looking at my past relationships at least the better looking ones were easier too.

>>33513733
Yeah there are better reactions when hearing a guy being pedo and proud

>>33513751
>Then out of nowhere, as quickly as I was picked up I was dropped.
so many stories like this
women are soulless

>>33513756
I always go 50/50
its worked for me but I dont know how many opportunities ive missed because of it
a friend of mine pays for dinner, hotel and club and usually gets laid 1st date

>>33513756
I dont personally mind too much. But obviously its nicer when he pays because it shows how much he values you. Guys treat you based on how valuable they think you are, so if he doesnt pay I assume he thinks I'm low value.

>>33513712
He is still around.

>>33513757
M

Highly contextual and dependent on where we are and why you're trying to talk to me. Are we at a bookstore? Ask something about what I'm looking for or make small talk about the genre. Are we at the farmer's market? Recommend a stall.

Also be prepared for tension and a general guarded attitude, most women who approach us are part of some kind of scam or prank and that's what most guys will default to for the first few minutes as they look for your angle.

>>33513756
Yeah

>>33513745
Those are popular, but I played Dark Souls in one earlier today. Didn’t finish it though I got a call from work..

>>33513757
Telling you what has worked on me in the past? No way. I'm too jaded and cynical to give women pickup tips anymore.

>>33513667
>implying I'd get that far into dating with a fucking retard
My self esteem's low but not THAT low

>>33513757
>do you have a gf?

No
>look at me, I'm your gf now

Yes
>want another?

What's wrong with 3 in 1 shampoo?

>>33513756
Usually not, but sometimes we split it

>>33513765
But you will lose respect for the guys who pay and you will fuck the Chads who just invite you over without a date. Why would any man pay for a serial dater or a slut? Fucking retard.

>>33513756
Yeah. Before I was in a relationship, if the date wasn't great I would insist on splitting 50/50. If it went well I would let them pay but insist on paying myself next time and we would alternate. Now with my boyfriend we just treat each other whenever we feel like it or there's the financial option, but I have more money so I pay more often.

>>33513707
>Also I should have asked but do women even want to be approached?
"Cold approaching" is a term that was originally coined by so-called Pick Up Artists, and typically describes approaching a total stranger and immediately asking for her number. Unless you have movie-star looks AND the charisma of a highly successful second-hand car salesman, you will almost certainly strike out doing this.

Now, suppose you've gone to a pub/bar with a few people after work, and some other people drop by because they're friends of your colleagues. Under those circumstances saying "Hello, I'm anon. How do you Jackie?" is normal human behaviour, and no one has the slightest problem with it.

>>33513728
What a weak strawman. I shouldn't even be replying to this.

>>33513757
Just like you'd like to be approached, I assume. In a polite way, if possible bringing up a topic related to the place or activity we're doing. If not, a simple "I saw you and wanted to meet you" will do.

>>33513767
For instance I was walking through the city and I saw a really cute guy. He was just by himself walking somewhere, so no convo starters I could think of. If we were at like a coffee or book store it would be easier maybe? But not sure about just in public

I’m in myao’s homeland

in the end it all comes down to looks.
if youre hot shes not going to make you wait 5 dates for sex because she wants to get fucked too
and even if she does, a hot guy has sidechicks to fulfill his needs

>>33513773
Im autistic enough to try this and if it fails I will set myself on fire

>>33513757
as an expert man approacher, get him into a coffeeshop or something asap or if hes busy get his contacts so you can get a casual coffee date lined up
dont give him time to get in his own head, STRESS the casualness of it as much as possible
from the coffeedate you should consider options for where to go for small gettoknoweachother activities afterwards tailored to both parties' personal interests

or just sneak up behind him with a tazer, zap him discreetly, and when he collapses assure the passersby he is your friend and get a cab to drag him home
this is the safer method recommended for beginners

>>33513776
If there's a big change in the last decade or so it's the shift among men's attitudes towards each other when they know a guy does that kind of thing, Marrying a single mom these days is pretty much the death of your career and social life.

>>33513784
>if youre hot shes not going to make you wait 5 dates for sex because she wants to get fucked too
She will if she has feelings and fears the guy will lose respect for her if she has sex with him "too early". More common depending on how conservative your area is.

>>33513774
As a mass produced product It's engineering leaves something to be desired.
Mechanicaly it does some bs you wouldn't actually like.
It's engineered for the most common denominator, and not to the individual.

I'm not sure in this case.

Anti dandruff shampoo actualy make the problem worse because that's not the persons actual problem, but they don't know better, and that's not thier fault.

>>33513784
You'll never be someone's dream person, why live?

>>33513776
I only sleep with people Im in a committed relationship with? Generalising and assumptions will get you nowhere,

>>33513782
Generally I'd avoid guys just walking on the street because you have no idea what they're doing or where they're going, what kind of hurry they're in, etc. A guy at a coffee shop, bookstore, whatever, is not in a hurry and his emotional state is pretty evident.

>>33513793
i was once but i fucked it up
she was hot a buying me gifts from the first date

>>33513757
If a woman approached me in public I'd just assume I was being punked or something.

kissing femanons stomach

my life would be a lot easier if women who werent interested in me simply ignored me instead of playing along out of politeness

>>33513795
Noted.

>>33513786
You're not confident enough for a baller line like that.

>>33513798
that tickles!

>>33513779
Yeah you are defending too eagerly

>>33513784
Nah, you got brain rot

>learn how to make AI slop pictures
>get pretty good at it
>make all my stuff and requests for free
>the slop mafia is after me because I am undercutting their patreons and commissions
>get messages threatening me???
What the fuck is wrong with this world?

>ywn go down on your crush fron lips down
Why even live

>location: within 50km
>get a match finally
>in the conversation it becomes clear she lives in a different country but has her location said to mine
happens far too often

>>33513803
We'll see about that

>>33513816
what location?

Stuff is too bleak right now, bros. Order a pizza and go play some video games. We don't have to win right now, we just have to survive for a bit longer.

Foids you're gonna be left to yourselves for a bit until we circle back later, ok?

>>33513806
Women need to stop being so ticklish! Let me kiss you all over!!!

>>33513783
cool!

>>33513819
i wont tell you because you'll pull the same shit

>>33513820
Surviving without winning is not worth it.

>>33513813
I get threatening messages for playing a funny little shark fella in Marvel Rivals. Getting threatening messages on the internet is easy. Because anonymity and distance makes feel people invincible, so they don't bother pretending to be decent.

>>33513824
i'm too lazy for that

>>33513818
Good luck. I mean it.

>>33513813
>slop patreons
Are there really people so rich and lazy they can't be assed to type "big titty furry girl" on their own?

>>33513801
How haven't you learned then? If she says anything other than yes, I move on, she is dead to me from that moment on. I won't give her any more attention because attention to foids is what sex is to men.

>>33513801
they get off on it

>>33513828
so your saying its not going to work?

What do men have to gain by getting married?

>>33513830
Yes I checked them and even the super meh ones make 200-500 bucks a month

>>33513833
No, I'm saying I hope it does. I don't want you to set yourself on fire.

>>33513834
I just want a loving family that's all

>>33513834
Weight

>>33513762
I mean I was trying to stay coy but ftr this was a dude. Take it from a bisexual, it's people in general, some are just fucking deficient in certain ways, while tantalisingly proficient in others. We can only control how we handle it.

>>33513831
>>33513832
they go on dates with me leading nowhere
im probably retarded but i cant tell if theyre genuinely interested or not.
my last 3 gfs all had some good and bad signals:
>replying late
>being 'busy' and not able to plan a date soon


and it turned out to just be nothing. but at the same time sometimes that stuff means theyre not interested in you

>>33513834
If you have kids together it secures your rights as a father. Tax benefits.

>>33513801
It'd be easier for women if they didn't have to play along out of politeness too
This is hell and we all designed it together

>>33513836
oh ok thanks

>>33513822
Don’t let her know I’m otw though

>>33513813
>>33513835
...
Is this real

>>33513834
in theory, their missing half
in modern reality, divorce rape

>>33513844
NTA
Indeed, but women are the ones saying all the time that they don't really need us or want us.

my arms hurt

>>33513784
*yoink*

>>33513834
Legal rights to your children that are much stronger than a baby daddy's.
>but muh divorce rape
almost all divorce rape horror stories involve boomers who have a wife who was a homemaker for 30 years.
>>33513842
>tax benefits
if anything I don't get enough tax benefits, the childfree should be cut off from social security benefits and have to pay in double as a fuck you.

>>33513853
post em

>>33513842
I hate to say this, but the low inhib "loser" men who get numerous women pregnant then fuck off from their lives are winning and reproducing consistently, and the men who you described that seek being present, stable, and getting tax benefits are losing painfully.

>>33513844
they dont have to play along out of politeness
if youre not interested why agree to go on a date?
why even bother replying to someone? we live in ghost culture, just ghost me if youre not interested instead of cancelling last minute or going on a date you dont want to go

>>33513858
i don't want to attract gooners i just want a massage

>>33513848
Yep go to r34 and visit the AI slop patreon pages, lots of the pics have a mark with patreon link

>>33513859
I don't think this is really true. It's easy to feel okay about your chaotic life when you're still strong, have lots of energy, a good social/working life and all that. When you get old, you have different needs, you don't make new friends easily anymore (or have even stopped being interested in that altogether), stuff you never worried about previously like old break ups, feuds with friends, not being present in your kids' lives etc starts to eat away at you.

I have worked with a lot of elderly people and for every one of them their loved ones were the light of their lives. It is common for estranged fathers to reach out once the kid is an adult and then usually the response is fuck you... Or at best, I forgive you for not being a real father, but you will never be my father now either.

>>33513840
>they go on dates with me leading nowhere
Then they were interested at first. Are you physical on dates?

>>33513826
>he plays jeffy
:3

Women if you could press a button that killed all the moids and replaced them with ideal dream moids directly from every foids mind, would you press it?

>>33513869
sometimes, usually not till daate 2 or 3 i try to hold hands
they plan second dates and then cancel last minute, or postpone, or say they are busy but still have time later
just fucking ghost me if youre interested past the 1st date. id rather have that.

Women, has your reset button ever been hit?

>>33513834
Men don't need legacies anymore. So idk.

a friendly reminder that flat girls deserve lots of love

I really look forward to go on another 20 dates to find a gf
my success rate is extremely low

>>33513880
>lots of love
that is why I'm building the booba machine

>>33513872
Of course I do. Best boy.

>>33513873
They'd press it even if nobody would get replaced.

>>33513182
>professional footballer acts like a monkey to win the "prize" of a BPD slut who rotates boyfriends faster than the UK tories rotate leaders
Thankfully, not all women think like blue checkmarks on twitter. Social media is to women what porn is to men.

>>33513873
No because I know at least one femanon would dream of mechahitler.

>>33513826
I'm judging you more for playing Marvel Rivals, but at least you're playing as the based shark
I think it's hilarious his creator said it's a skill issue

>>33513866
I wonder if people are actually paying for this slop or if most subscribers are fake

>>33513880
They can come and get their love from my cold, dead hands if they want it so much.

>>33513890
Judge as you wish. I can't help playing good video games.

Where do I meet clingy gf

>>33513880
Woo

>>33513834
Well personally I want a best friend I can spend my life with. To me, marriage is basically an extra layer of confidence for us both, so that neither of us will make an impulsive decision and just ditch the relationship, there's at least time to talk about it
Plus legal stuff like insurance and whatnot

>>33513876
No... Some of my boyfriend's bad habits definitely rubbed off on me but I have been a vegetarian since long before I met him and would never even consider changing my mind about that despite him eating anything.

>>33513895
I judge everyone for playing social games because I have no friends to play anything with

>>33513903
Based. People who play multiplayer are not trustworthy.

>>33513903
I've only got one friend who plays it, so wouldn't exactly call it a social game for me.

>>33513562
I don't, no. I get less than nothing out of it.
Virtually no chance of her being receptive, high risk of being seen as a creep if she isn't, and even a "success" means she's the kind of woman who would go out with a total stranger who is clearly just interested in her looks...which isn't the kind of woman I want anyway.

>>33513670
You can thank the sexual "revolution" for unleashing the lowest common denominator on society.

>>33513616
kill yourself, degenerate

a moid and a foid on a date

modern dating is hell for men. we need to go back.

>>33513911
M. There's no going back, so that's not healthy thinking.

>>33513911
Women don't want to go back, and men no longer have a say in the matter.

>>33513911
can we please go back?

>>33513910
Suuure, and then she likes me and asks me things about myself. Go back to /x/

>>33513763
>paying money to be the whore
That's even dumber than the reverse

Might start paying some girl on twitter to act like my gf
Unless there's a good AI gf app out there?

Men worth dating aren't here

>>33513919
he gets laid frequently so I dont doubt his methods
but he spends a lot on the whores. but still its cheaper than seeing actual prostitutes

>>33513220
M
No, and anyone who even considers it should be gassed

>>33513911
how far back are we talking

>>33513924
I’m here :)

>>33513924
So leave then

>>33513924
I'm worth dating!

>>33513813
Do they send AI slop threats?

>>33513924
That's not what some femanons have told me.

>>33513929
i think anything after 40 years would do the trick

>>33513924
True, he's not here.

>chatting with a girl talking about media and stuff
>she starts talking about a male character, how she would like to be fucked by him and how she is biting her lip thinking about him
??? What can I say there past "Haha... yeah I guess girls find him hot."?

>>33513938
NTA but that's not nearly far enough. Everything after the sexual revolution was absolutely a mistake.

>>33513911
Back to when women would let you wrap your entire life around them just so they could have a bank account? While you both drown in children that neither of you want?

Thinking of giving this letter to the girl I'm dating, she's moving home to her country and I'll see her one more time.

xxx
I’m so grateful I met you and that we got to share this little pocket of time together.
Without your persistence, I’d have missed one of the best surprises of my life.
Even though our tastes and interests were total opposites, we connected in all the ways that really mattered.
Your energy makes everyone brighter and happier, I felt that every moment with you, even when we walked home in the rain.
I’m really happy you’ll be closer to your family, friends and Finn, I know how much you miss them.
I wish we had more time, but I’m thankful for every moment we spent together.
Let’s keep in touch and see where the future takes us.
Until we meet again,
xxx

Too heavy? Kinda want to fix the writing up so its a bit more of one paragraph.

Men are unhappy cuz we can't plap
Women are unhappy cuz they don't let men plap

We aren't the same

>>33513941
Say that unlike that character, you're here.

>>33513941
She's flirting. If you're interested in her, ignore the character part and just reply to what she wrote about how she wants to get fucked, by saying or implying she has good taste.

>>33513938
You mean 100. That's after the matrimonial causes act, allowing divorce for adultery alone, but well before the disaster of the pill and sexual revolution.

>>33513941
she's not gonna have sex with you

>>33513947
Nah, they're happy with that.

>>33513948
Sounds sleazy to me
>>33513949
This sounds more reasonable
>>33513951
Don't expect her to

>>33513941
what character?

We need to take women's rights away because women having autonomy over who they can date pisses me off. Anyone who disagrees with me is a simp.

>>33513954
>Sounds sleazy to me

You're not the one who brought up sexual fantasies out of the blue. Two can play that game.

>>33513941
She's a whore, just move on.

>>33513949
>why yes, I also want to be fucked by a man
Fujo detected

>>33513786
Try it on me to guarantee maximum fire resist

>>33513958
Foid hands
Weak strawman

>>33513958
this

>>33513964
How is it a strawman?

Women, do you think babies are cute?

>>33513946
So sweet it made me tear up.
Kind, appreciative and loving. I am going to save this, desu

>ordered my books 12 hours ago
>still not out for delivery
This is bullshit

>>33513968
they dont, thats why they have abortions

>>33513961
>why yes, I also want to be fucked by a man
If a woman says she'd love to get fucked a certain way and you comment that this sounds good, that doesn't imply you want to be in her shoes rather than doing what she talks about with her... If a woman you are dating says "I love being eaten out" and you reply "sounds good" do you also think you are saying you want to get eaten out as a man?

>>33513967
No one is making that argument. We just don't want to get recorded and posted on social media so we can be mobbed and fired from our jobs just because we approached in public and you didn't like it.

>>33513967
Especially when another anon agreed with it >>33513966

>>33513946
Trying too hard to kiss her ass imo.

>>33513930
>>33513932
>>33513935
Prove your worth then

>>33513931
I came here to observe your misery and I'm not done

>>33513946
Sounds good to me, the only thing is "see where the future takes us" makes it feel unclear as to whether you're asking to do long distance or not.

Question of the day:
Do horse girls eat oats?

>>33513973
>If a woman you are dating says "I love being eaten out" and you reply "sounds good" do you also think you are saying you want to get eaten out as a man?
That's why so many guys won't do it

>>33513968
Of course, they are specifically designed to make you forget about the whole childbirth thing. Especially all the dimples are just to die for.

>>33513974
>We just don't want to get recorded and posted on social media so we can be mobbed and fired from our jobs just because we approached in public and you didn't like it.
I like how you accuse me of strawmanning but then circlejerk about how women are awful because of a few social media incidents that you hyperfocus on for a victim narrative and again, another anon did unironically agree with my so-called strawman >>33513966

>>33513978
>Prove your worth then
How? What would you consider proof?

>>33513978
>Prove your worth then

I do it thread after thread, and it's not like anything changes. But test me.

>>33513984
>unironically
You are autistic. Goodbye.

>>33513865
nta, i could make biscuits on them!

>>33513968
My cousin's baby is the only one I've met that I begrudgingly thought was cute. I don't want to think there's a biological component, but there probably is. Generally, babies gross me out.

>>33513985
>>33513986
How do you spend your free time?

Women, why are you all awful? Men why are you all perfect?

>>33513958
I think we need to take (you)r rights away.

>>33513993
>>33513964

>>33513756
>Femanons, do you pay for dates?
Split 50/50 is normal. If he makes much less money than me, I might pay for everything.

>>33513979
Yes I am considering taking that out. I will discuss the future with her in person and she will read this letter afterwards.

>>33513976
Possibly I am yes.

>>33513976
Thank you

>>33513995
Not a strawman if these threads are filled with men demonizing women and acting like men can do nothing wrong and are always victims of women.

>>33513757
Honestly, it wouldn't work on me.

I would be immediately suspicious of a woman's intentions, and even if she's not just the distraction for pickpockets, I assume that anything she does for me, she would do for other guys in similar circumstances. Meaning that if she cold approaches, she's loose.
The only cold approach I wouldn't immediately shut down is if we were both there to do something, and she simply introduced herself. But that's because I wouldn't take it as a sign of interest.

Far better is if she actually has a reason to talk to me, like recognizing a book I have with me. I'd still be suspicious, but I wouldn't write her off right away.

>>33513991
(If it's not obvious from context, I might need to clarify that my cousin is my only relative who currently has a baby. I forget that most people have medium-to-large families that aren't actively begging to die out)

>>33514000
Just upset that men are calling out women's bullshit and you don't have an answer.

>>33513992
Reading, playing videogames, watching movies, going to the gym. Sometimes I hang out with my friends. I'm thinking about going out on walks lately.

Also I'm open to try most things if people propose it or I hear about it.

>>33514005
Yes, women are all evil and men are all perfect. Not a strawman at all. Not all men but yes all women.

>>33513794
>I only sleep with people
>plural
Proving his point. Your commitment is apparently cheap.

>>33513993
>:(

>>33514008
No, it's definitely a strawman.

>>33513992
Mostly learning things, subject matter depends on what I'm feeling like, but I tend to go between programming/IT related things, Japanese, and urban legends/mythology. I also just generally read a lot
I sometimes play games, and I'm almost always hanging out with my cats when I'm home. I sometimes get in the mood to practice archery as well, I have my own recurve bow and a target set up for it.
Uhm, I think that about covers most of it
If I had someone to go with, I'd go on hikes, especially to local haunted places. I don't know anybody irl that has any interest in either though

>>33514009
NTA
Yes having sex with people you're in a committed relationship is a thing that happens and isn't a sign of being a slut. Go cry somewhere else tradcuck.
>>33514014
You're right, no man in these threads have ever victim blamed any women for being abused by men ever. My apologies.

>>33513971
You are incredibly spoiled.
I order something, I'm lucky to get it within a week.

>>33513950
True.
Imagine telling a man in 1925 that men would be desperate to date fatties, single mothers, rape victims and other trash in 2025.

>>33514019
I was being dramatic because I am impatient
But I don't actually expect to get it until Friday at the earliest. It hasn't even been passed to the carrier yet kek

>>33514007
>>33514015
You still haven't given a reason for women to choose you over any other man who does these things

>prove your worth then
meanwhile women: having a vagina and not being obese is all it takes

>>33514027
The incels in these threads never do and think they're entitled to pussy simply for doing the bare minimum as a human being.

>>33514017
Sleeping with one dude after another in temporary relationships of convenience, which by definition can be unilaterally ended for any reason, is a mockery of commitment at best. It's delusional to put that on the same level as a binding agreement to stay loyal for life.

Women
How do you feel about red eyeshadow?

>>33514031
why would men need to jump through hoops to get laid?
if youre hot you dont have to do even the bare minimum as a human being
its all about looks

>>33514026
>I was being dramatic because I am impatient
I stand by my statement.

>>33514030
Oh look it's the "Men have no standards" bullshit lie again. So you'll totally date a single mother with tattoos and a septum ring who was a rape victim, right?

>the writers barely disguised fetish
how often do foids spot it?

>>33514033
It's hard to pull off because it can easily make you look high or like you have hayfever, just cried etc. It can look cool but most pictures online are the exception to the rule. My make up skills are very very basic so I don't feel the urge to go for something that bold. I will appreciate it if another woman can rock it though.

>>33514036
id fake a relationship to fuck her yes

>>33513968
Some babies are

>>33514027
You just asked how do we spend our free time.

As for why should someone choose me: because I'm affectionate, supportive, polite, respectful, hardworking and other things that I'm not going to list here. I want to add to my partner's life.

every man needs 1 chad friend at some early point in their life, to black pill them

>>33513980
Regular girls also eat granola/oats.

>>33514041
Right, you'd pump and dump and then leave her without having a committed relationship. But being used as a sex object isn't loneliness of course.

>>33514037
Hard to say, I only know when I do spot it. A lot of the time I also don't care, though, if I'm generally fine answering the question then I'm not going to feel differently knowing it hits sexual for the person who asked. People can feel sexual inside about literally anything including extremely mundane stuff like someone smiling at them, if I want to feel violated or whatever any time someone privately makes something sexual in their head, I can have a very sorry life.

>>33514027
Your question was about what I do in my free time though
I think the reason to choose me is because I'd be a great boyfriend. I have a strong focus on romance and affection, I have really good communication skills although I'm pretty shy, and I think I'm pretty emotionally available. I also am naturally a very caring person, keeping supplements and medicine and other supplies on me that people I spend time with might need. Back when I had female friends I would keep Midol and Iron supplements in my car along with my regular first aid kit

>>33513873
>Women if you could press a button that killed all the moids and replaced them with ideal dream moids directly from every foids mind, would you press it?
Thats fuck up. I'd bonk you on the head if I could

>>33513757
>How should I approach a guy in public? Whats a line you as a guy would want to hear. Nothing creepy or sexual.
If it were me, you'd have trouble. I've never been approached in my life, and I'm sufficiently past my prime now that I can be certain I never will be. So simply convincing me that you were actually being serious would be a major problem. I'd be thinking: am I on a hidden camera TV show, is she a hooker, is this a police sting, am I being set up to be robbed, is she drunk/high/manic/having a psychotic episode, is she trying to make some point about how all men are horny and desperate, is this a psychology experiment...? Any of those possibilities would seem far more likely than that you were actually interested in me.

Given that I'm autistic (diagnosed ASD) I think I would probably like it if you were really direct. Say something like "Hi! I realise this is a bit weird, but would you like to go for a drink with me?" If you start trying to make smalltalk then, for a long time, I'm going to be standing there wondering what the hell is actually going on, and feeling increasingly paranoid about it.

>>33514048
hey she'll get good sex out of it and attention
thats more then men get. they get literally nothing lmao
men get abused and used with no sex or even a fake relationship, many would switch places with that whore

>>33513873
Nigga, I just want moids to stop blaming women for all the problems of the world.

>>33514035
Listen
You're not entirely wrong but I wanted to at least make it clear it's not as severe as you might have thought
It also doesn't help that I've been trying to get one of these books for a few weeks now at physical stores

How do I get a gf with big tits?

>>33514053
>hey she'll get good sex out of it and attention
The fact that you see being pumped and dumped as a good thing because "AT LEAST YOU GET ATTENTION" explains a lot about the average moid mentality. It is in fact better to be a virgin for life then to be used and abused.

>>33514040
I appreciate reading your thoughts.

>>33513834
>What do men have to gain by getting married?
Nothing whatever. The only reason I would is so that my partner won't have to pay inheritance tax on the house if I die first.

>>33514051
but why is it fucked up? It's not like you're getting rid of moids you're just changing them, right? Isn't that what you want?

>>33514059
NTA
I think you might be onto something. Being a virgin has more connotations of being undesirable or a loser for men.

>>33514059
because the alternative for men is much much worse
you retarded women take an extreme example of an undesirable woman, who stills gets much more than a lonely man (sex, relationships, pump n dumps) and then you cry about it

a man would kill to have what your example gets easily, despite being a whore single mom with tattoos

>>33514056
Course literature?

anons, I just took a shower! are you proud of me?

>>33514060
No problem at all, you're welcome!

>>33514044
>and other things that I'm not going to list here
Now I'm curious. Why can't you list them?

>>33514050
>keeping supplements and medicine and other supplies on me that people I spend time with might need. Back when I had female friends I would keep Midol and Iron supplements in my car along with my regular first aid kit
That's sweet, people don't usually think to do that

>>33514059
Comparing who has it worse is the most retarded and childish game you can play.

>>33513968
>Women, do you think babies are cute?
No.

>>33514069
Yes, good job. Remember to moisturize your skin. Drink water

>>33514068
Nope, just a book I heard about recently and it sounds fascinating, but it's apparently hard to find! Every store said they had a few copies but the employees said they don't carry it

>>33514071
>Now I'm curious. Why can't you list them?

It's not that I can't, I just don't want to make a list of adjectives that are ultimately meaningless because it's not like people will actually care about them.

>>33514066
>because the alternative for men is much much worse
Oh no...Not being in a relationship where you got used and abused. How awful.
>a man would kill to have what your example gets easily, despite being a whore single mom with tattoos
Oh so you would love to be in an abusive relationship with someone who treats you like garbage? I thought moids in these threads always complain about BPDemons and divorce rape.
>>33514072
Yes anon, being in an abusive relationship where you're treated like dirt is in fact worse than not getting laid. That's not oppression Olympics, that's just facts.

>>33514058
Do you have a girthy pp? Women with big tits tend to go for guys with girthy pps for whatever reason.

>>33514066
NTA but it's clear you don't understand that if someone makes you feel like you are special, wanted, cherished etc and then they ghost you after they had theirs, you are hardly consoled by the idea that at least they gave you some attention first. In hindsight you will feel they never thought you were special or interesting, apparently, just good enough because you had a hole to fuck. It's not "you get some good and some bad" it's "you get your self esteem built up and then it's taken away in a way that also makes you feel like you were a dumb bitch".

Of course it's possible to have casual sex without feeling used, but focusing on the scenario where you fake mutual feelings to get laid...

>>33514077
I mean, the ones you did list are still the bare minimum of what a person should have

>>33514076
What book, and makes you so excited about it?

>>33514079
nta but that's awesome news

women:
>women have it bad too! imagine a single mom with tats and piercings who cant get a good relationship!
how retarded is that example
first off the tats and piercings are her own choice
second she can still get plenty of guys to date her, men are desperate enough

men get nothing.
men have it so much unfathomably worse

>>33514033
I like it, but it’s not easy to do

>>33514036
Not that guy, but he simply said men's standards are lower. Which they demonstrably are, and that's not a good thing.
And women's high standards (although I'm pretty sure at least half of the "what makes you worth it" posters are men) that irritate people (to reiterate: people, not incels) are typically the nonsensical ones. Not standards of values, character, or even resources, all of which women SHOULD have high standards for, but things like expecting a dude to have no interests besides those of personal value to her while having chosen those interests before even meeting her.

It's still fine for a woman to have a particular ideal of a guy, even with niche interests tailored to her liking. But it will rub people the wrong way if she says any man outside of that ideal is an undateable drone *in general*, including to any other woman.
Subjective vs. objective worth. The former is harmless, like if a particular woman expects a guy to pass a bunch of convoluted checks for her interest. It's even a good thing for the guy who wants her and does. The latter is demoralizing, since it's treating exacting but ever-shifting standards as social expectations.

>>33514086
And yet many men aren't even that, according to most things I hear.

>>33514080
if a man was in that situation everyone would tell him to stop relying on external validation for his self esteem and to get over it

so for women I say the same thing

>>33514071
>That's sweet, people don't usually think to do that
Thank you, I just like to help and comfort those I care about
Have I proven my worth yet or do you require other evidence?

>>33514088
Tbh im not sure if im right, also if youre skinny fat to average weight. Im always wrong, so pay no mind to what I say

>>33513821
so silly, it's cute!

>>33514089
>men get nothing.
>men have it so much unfathomably worse
Good.

>>33514017
Do you even realize you're doing the same thing you're accusing men of doing?

>>33514089
>A shitty relationship where you're treated like garbage is still better than not getting laid!
Once again, I thought moids in these threads always bitch about BPDemons and divorce rape. Is being in an abusive relationship bad or not?
>>33514093
And what are these "Convoluted checks" for men that I supposedly have Mr. Biologically Male Female Expert?

>>33514074
hmm what are the benefits of moisturizing my skin?
and thanks for reminding me to drink some water!

>>33514095
No, if it were a guy people would tell him to stop crying because at least he got laid. That's harsh and less than ideal, but it rings true in the sense that there's also all the cultural tropes where men are more desirable for having (had) a sex life where women are seen as lowering their worth, self-respect or desirability by "putting out"...

Either way I agree with you everyone should make it their on-going mission to not rely on external validation. But hurting when you get deliberately manipulated and used is a far cry from that imo, it is only human for your self-esteem to take a hit. That doesn't mean you can't bounce back but still.

>>33514087
House of Leaves
I love horror in general, and I've heard this book is a serious mindboggling journey. I glimpsed a few pages from one of the store pages and the way the text is printed in different shapes and styles tells me it will at the very least be a unique reading experience

>>33514102
i said she can get plenty of regular dates, you made it abuse relationships only
youre arguing with yourself

>>33514078
>Yes anon, being in an abusive relationship where you're treated like dirt is in fact worse than not getting laid. That's not oppression Olympics, that's just facts.
Pumped and dumped is not being in an abusive relationship, the whole point is that you get dumped.
Anyway, yes, there are degrees. It doesn't really matter though, these are, in fact, oppression Olympics and it only causes more division. You feel invalidated when I tell you to not compare, that other anon feels invalidated when you say you have it worse, and then he invalidates you. It never ends. What is the goal here? For the other side to just say "yes, you have it worse. I'm so sorry, honey"?

>>33514094
A lot of men present themselves like that for at least the beginning of the relationship. The problem is many of them don't stay that way.

>>33514096
Yeah you pass

>>33514088
Average.
I am skinny though

>>33514036
Are you actually going to pretend that women's standards aren't far higher than men's?
Just admit that you hate men. It's not like we don't already know.

I imagine if the Bildenberg group read these threads theyd laugh their arses off at all the suffering theyve created

>>33512624
>>33512656
>>33512689

Which femanon is MKG taking about

>>33514110
Yes, that's what I've been told every time I mention good qualities that I allegedly have. So it's all meaningless in the end because everybody can call themselves the ideal partner. What is beyond the bare minimum, according to you?

>>33514089
Each gender has it's struggles
Women deal with men deceiving them and using them for sex, or possibly manipulating and abusing them, sometimes worse
Men on the other hand basically scream into the aether 99% of the time and get absolutely no response to anything.
The difference is that one world is hostile and the other is crushingly lonely and isolating

>>33514108
If the woman in my example was a rape victim, then obviously she was abused, no? But again, you're doing the moids thing of "WELL SHE SHOULD'VE CHOSE BETTER". Which is funny, moids in these threads will cry about women having too high standards, and then proceed to shame women in bad relationships for not "choosing better". So which is it? Should women have high standards or not? Because it seems like men don't like them either way.

>>33514110
>Yeah you pass
Yay!
So where can I meet my gf?

>>33514089
You are a whiny retard and your suffering is your fault.

>>33514107
Sounds familiar. I haven't read it but I'm sure I've heard about it before. Can't remember what I've heard though.
Relax. You'll have it in your hands soon enough. Anticipation is a good thing.

>>33514066
I am so sick of you retarded incels creating your own problems.
There is nothing wrong with being a virgin.

>>33514102
>And what are these "Convoluted checks" for men that I supposedly have
I wasn't saying it about you in particular, but ITT, a guy posts >>33514015 when asked how he spends his free time, and still gets blown off as utterly uninteresting. Of course that'll get negative attention. How the fuck else is he 'supposed' to spend his time to be declared worthy?

>>33514114
>But while she'd rather fuck [QT], I would actually fuck her silly. While he's more...polite
>No, being desired is my fetish and her desire to be desired fits nicely.
Who else lusts after QT and has a praise fetish like JH?

>>33514112
Time to show the graph once again. An OKCupid study showed that women are far more likely to send messages to men they're not sexually attracted to whereas men are only interested in messaging women they're sexually attracted too. Now it's time for the statistic loving moids to start coping and seething.

>>33513562
>do you actually approach girls in public
No. My entire life all i heard is that its creepy and it makes women uncomfortable. So even if some girls want that I'm not risking it. Knowing my luck I'd end up getting recorded and posted on tiktok

>>33514123
>There is nothing wrong with being a virgin.

Besides nobody finding you attractive or worthy to have a relationship with?

>>33514125
ur graph got refuted yesterday but you ignored it. sad

>>33514117
yes and men have it worse in the current circumstances
manipulation and abuse can (easily) be avoided but a lot of women are fucking retarded
also the way women play the game means manipulators can thrive. thats on their own.
Ive faked love for sex because it works. women made those rules not me.

>>33514118
>So which is it?
clearly those high standards dont work if theyre dating abusers lmao

>>33514123
>There is nothing wrong with being a virgin.
have you had sex?
its pretty good. virgins are missing out on A LOT. thats whats wrong with it

>>33514129
The graph has never gotten refuted. All it's gotten is cope and seethe responses from moids who claim to love statistics.

>>33514128
>nobody finding you attractive or worthy to have a relationship with
=/= being a virgin unless you're a chimp with no impulse control

>>33513191
Some can be. Not all of them.
If you don't like em, turn gay.

>>33514122
I hope so
And I'm not super impatient just anxious with anticipation, mostly I was just expressing to my only social group that I am excited

>>33514125
thats a bad thing
why are they messaging men they have no interest in? leading them on for no reason?

>>33514125
Men are far more likely to send the first message because that's what is expected of us. So we send messages to everyone we find attractive, because otherwise we're unlikely to get any attention at all.

>>33514132
How come? If people found you attractive, you wouldn't be a virgin for long.

>>33514115
Not losing that energy in the relationship. But also it's easier if you share interests so you have a reason to stay beyond physical/emotional attraction. So for you it would depend on the games and movies you like

>>33514120
Probably not here. You can still try, though

>>33514129
And yet incels keep posting charts from the same study as they were gospel.

>>33514130
>clearly those high standards dont work if theyre dating abusers lmao
That doesn't make sense anon, clearly if these women are dating abusers, they don't actually have high standards and are lowering their standards like you say they should, and yet you'll still hate them for lowering their standards regardless.
>>33514136
Because there's more to people than their looks and women aren't as shallow as the moids in these threads like to lie about.

>>33514133
No, it's basically all of them.