Thread 33557981

News all over the world, statistics, my day to day life, the way people interact and behave, media, literature, everything has led me to believe men/human society doesn’t see women as fully human. I like to observe people and how we behave, i also love anthropology, i love being human. But for millenia it seems like women have been denied the pleasure of being fully human, much of it because of our procreative abilities and the creation of private property. Anyways, i can’t help but notice how this prejudice against women escapes trough every single detail of our daily lives, our interactions(even casual ones), our ethics, our sex, our family structure, our jobs, our agriculture, our medicine, our behavior, our perception of beauty, etc. I don’t think things will ever change, even in the most progressive countries i could notice these patterns of subtle(sometimes not so much) misogyny. the only way prejudice against women could ever fully end is if we all died and restarted society all over again lol. After this really, really long rant, i want to ask the most male dominated site, what do you think of this? Do you agree? What do you think of women?

>>33557981 (OP)
Yes but they grow out of it.

>>33557981 (OP)
I disagree, I think the majority of men see women as human and always have. I think that fringe minorities in this social dynamic are always the loudest and they typically control the narrative but their narratives are never realistic. And the reason their narratives are always in our faces is because it’s sensational, and the newspapers and media websites love what is sensational because it makes $$$. Its the same reason we watch brutality on fictional Tv or over the top drama on movies. So Yes theres some men who hate and abuse women, and theres also women who hate and abuse men and they bleat like lambs very very loudly and the media takes their cries or pain and makes it into a money making racket to demoralise the actual majority in real life.

>What do you think of women?
Nothing at all, because I don’t personally know all 4,000,0000 of them, I know about only a dozen. And I know of maybe a half hundred personally. Thats the thing, I can’t say I like women or dislike them because it depends on their personality. And the reason I look for that over their gender is precisely because I humanize them.

dont tell me about your problem if you're not looking for a solution

>>33557981 (OP)
Op you're a woman, and you're falling for the (((feminist))) psyop, especially with the misogyny derangement syndrome. You are not a jew, so that victim mindset will not be as profitable.
Yes plenty of men think this way and that, just like plenty of women do about men. Focus on individuals and behaviors, from both your and their side.
And some incentives do differ (who's got the babymaker, who's got the 10x testosterone levels), but while they do affect and in some ways restrict us, they are not the sole determinant of how we choose to behave.

>>33557981 (OP)
>Do men see women as humans?
Both women and men are of the human species, but men and women are different from each other, they can never be equals in the sense people try to push it.

>>33557981 (OP)
The female sex is indeed completely human, but are immutably distinct from men. This fact has implications about the roles of the sexes in human societies.

Women are akin to older children - not fully culpable for their faults, but also incapable of achieving true agency. This isn’t their own fault, and in my opinion, it is not even a flaw. It is merely the way our species is. Women are important, and when they fulfill their role dutifully, are one of the greatest assets a society has and are absolutely invaluable.

Despite this fact, allowing women to participate directly in political systems is a foolish prospect and a societal delirium. It is like giving 8 year olds the right to vote and hold office. Men should be protecting and caring for women, as is their innate responsibility. But allowing this farce of equal rights has been nothing but destructive to both sexes, children, human dignity, and the species as a whole.

>>33557981 (OP)
People who shout the loudest do not necessarily represent the majority.

>>33558236
They almost never do, that's the reason they have to shout, to push and force their narrative above the massive ocean of mass talking.

I love women because they are very observant creatures and because I was born to one. Without women I wouldn't be here, without women I wouldn't be able to look better in clothes and the likes.

I see women as human because they are far more in touch with their human emotions than my cold ass

>>33557981 (OP)
>Do men see women as humans?
Of course, women literally are humans. When women ask questions like this it really shows a double mindedness on their part. Women put up safe spaces for themselves and harbor secret networks of "female thought" because they know that they don't value the same things as men and that we ideate and cognitize differently.
When a woman asks questions like this is shows a blindness to the instrumental and careless way that THEY TREAT MEN. Men set up walls to protect our interests from LACK OF FEMALE EMPATHY. Women don't give a damn about the contents of our hearts
Crying about not seen as human is toddler tier mentality. I remember when I was a baby crying about how people my age "weren't fully human" because I wasn't allowed to roam the streets, drive a car, get a job, or buy my own house lmao
Take a look at society, what are you being excluded from? Walking the streets because men will hurt you BITCH THAT IS YOUR OWN MIND TELLING YOU THAT. There's no fixing this.
You are hormally disposed to crying about men in the abstract and you will never feel human unless you ontologically seize your own capacity for existence
Fuck off with this neo-feminist defeatist slop

>>33557981 (OP)
Do women display capacity for reason and intellectualism?
>>33558034
I agree.

>>33558376
Not OP but for capacity for reason, absolutely. I'd argue that women are in fact more reasonable than men in terms of relating ACTIONS towards REASONS. For example their tendency to disdain all motives that are not done in the name of hygiene and family.
Even the highest IQ women seem to have a disdain for pure intellectualism precisely because it is unreasonable, the domain of autists and natural philosophers to favor the alignment of abstract systems over the empirical world in front of their eyes is the essence of masculinity in my opinion. Men live for spirit and ideals while women live for soul, community, organic existence

>>33558394
NTA.
Giving women political agency has been disastrous for the community, organic existence, and the collective soul.

>>33558405
I disagree. The problem is that women don't understand men and we've basically yielded child rearing and education over to them completely and thus given them total domain over the inner workings of all institutions. So the spirit of man is left as a bastard on this earth constantly grappling with social mechanics that are not designed for him.

The separation of men from the development of all children was not necessary in order to give women the right to participate in all of societies institutions if we only had the right to be honest about the difference between our values and cognitions

Op here !
> “ I think that fringe minorities in this social dynamic are always the loudest and they typically control the narrative but their narratives are never realistic.”
I partially agree with this and the rest of your reply. I think our notion of someone who is prejudiced against women/doesn't see them as human beings is different. I'm not just talking about men, gangs, or extremist governments that actively want to hurt women. I'm also talking about, for example, men who consume pornography; In this format of media women are literally exposed as pieces of meat to be selected and consumed. I don't know how it can get more bizarre than that. And your average 12-30 year old male consumes this content regularly. For me, this is a form of dehumanization.

>>33557981 (OP)
Rise of the truecels

>>33558484
>pornography; In this format of media women are literally exposed as pieces of meat to be selected and consumed
Women view men as dogs and oxen to produce capital and guard (and build nonetheless) their home. Don't play holier than thou

>>33557981 (OP)
Define human

>>33557981 (OP)
I lost my post (iPad ran out of ram). I’m annoyed now, but anyway, this thread reminded me of a bit from Pablo Francisco: https://youtu.be/RrwaI2vZpFs?feature=shared&t=1540

Men love women, women don’t love men. This has always been the case throughout time. No matter what a man does, women will complain. Men universally will fight for and find pride in dying for their women. A woman could never conceive such a concept. To die for her husband is insane and idiotic, just why would she ever do that? Men are little else but disposable resources and an organic sex toy that’s occasionally fun to leech off. But ultimately most women would rather live alone and take her kids. You can rot in abject isolation for all she cares.

> “ Women view men as dogs and oxen to produce capital and guard (and build nonetheless) their home. Don't play holier than thou”
Maybe if you’re in a country where women still rely on men for financial support.. that kind of mentality isn’t very prevalent in modern societies where women can work and have their own property, bank accounts, etc.. In fact, a lot of women are choosing to abstain from marriage and children because we don’t have to rely on that for survival anymore. The women i know who are dating just genuinely see the guy as a good romantic partner

>>33558541
Alright tell that to the women I see all around my every day in the middle of the USA who literally pick the stereotypical blue collar dude because he pays her bills and it makes her feel "tee hee" girly
I don't know who you are thinking of when you make your arguments

most men see women as humans, just not as people. racism works in a similar way. several morons in this thread genuinely think women don't have real agency or capacity for "intellectualism." fools.

>>33558585

when i wrote my argument I thought of most developed nations like Japan, Italy, South Korean, Finland…who have declining birth rates. And for the girl-going-after-blue-collar-guy situation, I would say this is due to the rise of choice feminism, young women fool themselves thinking that doing traditionally patriarchal things, depending on men for money, using makeup, engaging in hookup culture/support prostitution (because in patriarchy there always needs to be a whore), is somehow empowering because it benefits them individually but doesn’t have any systemic effect.

>>33558628
>hookup-culture
>patriarchal

>>33558484
>I'm also talking about, for example, men who consume pornography; In this format of media women are literally exposed as pieces of meat to be selected and consumed. I don't know how it can get more bizarre than that. And your average 12-30 year old male consumes this content regularly. For me, this is a form of dehumanization.

And I also don't like and oppose the pornographic enterprise as well. But you need to remember that the beast of porn is a beast that is piloted by both men and women. By both the male viewer (or female) and the female actress (or male).
Yes the viewer dehumanizes the porn actress, why wouldn't they? The women are on a screen. Same as you dehumanise an actor in a movie who is a villain, you would like to watch them fail and die right?

Problem with porn is it blurs the line between reality and fantasy. Reality says those are real women allowing the abuse of their own mind and bodies. And i'm sure you agree that's exactly what it is too. But remember, those women aren't the victims you think they are. They know what they are, they choose that life, because they want it. They know little boys barely aged 12 will watch their sexual exploits online and they don't care and in fact they rely on it to make money from viewership numbers.
So why do women dehumanise themselves by taking part?

>>33558484
Whenever you interact with a professional providing a service for you, you are also objectifying them, man or woman. And that's fine. You don't have to care about every single human being beyond some transactional frame

>>33557981 (OP)
What does fully human mean to you? Doing whatever you want with absolutely no cultural and societal connotations or intensions with regards to your sex? That doesn't exist for men either. What is it you think you're missing out on exactly?

>>33558646
I do agree that there are some privileged women who do it because for them it’s “easy money”, im not saying women can’t be morally corrupt. But do you really think all women who prostitute themselves, be it in real life or in pornography, do it just because? Do you remember when porn hub deleted videos on their website wich could contain minors and/or sexually trafficked women and like half of the site was removed? How do homeless women across the globe usually survive? Prostitution. Also, a lot of women who choose that route come from a background where they’ve been abused to believe the only good thing about them is their sexuality, you don’t usually see a porn star or prostitute who had a healthy family or financial condition.

>>33557981 (OP)
This perspective being so popular among women ironically shows them to be NPCs who can’t view the world outside of their bubble.

Most of the “dehumanization of women” is in the context of viewing them as innocent creatures who all of society is designed to protect.

It was men who were tasked with the dangerous jobs and back breaking labor, with going to die by the million in wars, and if you can’t protect and provide, you’re worthless. As a man you are made aware your life is disposable and your only worth is what value you can give to others.

And yes, this is in our culture too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNME0cloyyM

https://youtu.be/Ip7kP_dd6LU?si=g2vZQTMWa7p_X5hN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8mMbi8LhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0ijCXLYrU

>>33558628
>allow women to participate in political process
>allow women to exercise "agency"
>they use it to enable being tattooed community-use whores
>say that doing as such is empowering, sticking it to the patriarchy
>by being the opposite of traditional modest, loving mothers they think they are liberated
>regret their empty, vapid existence
>claim that patriarchy made them engage in the degeneracy they spent decades fighting to achieve

This is why women do not possess actual agency and allowing them to directly participate in political systems is a mistake. They will fuck everything up and then blame men. They are incredibly easy for Jews to manipulate and are allergic to logic and accountability.

>>33558394
I haven't found a women yet whose capacity for reason didn't stop at attempting to use logic to excuse their emotion and instinct.

>>33558695
Not the anon you’re responding too.

You wanna propose a solution for all the bad things in the world? Camgirls, onlyfans, porn, prostis, all of this are things women naturally gravitate to when it’s allowed. It’s easy money for them. Most of the girls in porn are not victims. Women have to make up their mind on being cognizant, responsible adults or children.

90% of women with the tech, even the ones too prudish to go full hoe are posting their pics online right now. No one forces women to wear yoga pants, booty shorts, bare most of their chest when out for a stroll. Or accentuate their sexual indicators with makeup and fake lashes.

Actually, the thing to curb this behaviour, is the strict, puritanical patriarchy which is pure evil. So we get rampant degeneracy instead. This is where women thrive. And still they cry. So in the end there is no winning, ever. Because the world isn’t perfect for women.

>> 33558667
I mean it in a way that i can be seen as more than a source of emotional, domestic or sexual services by the opposite sex. What i think women are missing out on is: a reality where there are no nations or communities where your sex is forced to abstain from living beyond the domestic sphere, not being seen as a object of desire as soon as early puberty hits or even before that , not having difficulties fully experiencing things or developing your intellect because you’re too worried performing femininity, not having your sex seen as a thing to be sold (be it directly trough prostitution or indirectly trough relationships where a man is the sole provider), just being seen as a inferior human in general.

>>33557981 (OP)
fuck no. is this even a serious question?

>> 33558735

Man either your city has brothels instead of neighborhoods or most of the contact you have with women is trough the internet. Women are not this sexually deviant things who are always trying to find a way to make men horny. Just like how i dont think the gym bros who go shirtless to the gym and post pictures doing those poses are whores, they just want validation and it’s funny but it’s okay. We are social beings after all, we want validation from our group, women who dress like that mostly dont even do it for the male lust but for the societal validation that you get for performing femininity (wich is purely patriarchal)

>>33558801
>dumbest bitch ITT

>>33558695
>But do you really think all women who prostitute themselves, be it in real life or in pornography, do it just because?

No, they do it because of despair same as how men nurse their own life problems with porn and hookers they are both despairing souls and what despairing people do is they seek each other out, misery always loves company.

>Do you remember when porn hub deleted videos on their website wich could contain minors and/or sexually trafficked women and like half of the site was removed?
Yeah I remember, that's another reason on top of a list of many why porn as an industry is a societal ill.

>How do homeless women across the globe usually survive? Prostitution. Also, a lot of women who choose that route come from a background where they’ve been abused to believe the only good thing about them is their sexuality, you don’t usually see a porn star or prostitute who had a healthy family or financial condition.

Yes yes we are in complete agreement. And in saying it's still their choice, their decision. Even if their minds are broken from homelessness, drug abuse, an abusive upbringing, whatever. They are adults and they have free will, even if it's blotted out by mental illness or emotional sickness, they are still accountable.

Serial killers come from abusive backgrounds, rapists come from abusive backgrounds, pedophiles come from abusive backgrounds. Should we just paint them as victims just because of a compelling origin story? I don't think so. Because the majority of people don't do that shit even under the duress of abuse or destitution. As I said, they are a vocal and loud minority. The majority do abuse victims don't do what they do, because they chose against it. But they didn't and that's all there is to it

>>33558919
>>33558695
Also human trafficking and child trafficking isn't a female only issue. Males get it too, just not sexually. Just look into how cartels and gangs increase their numbers, they prey on young boys who have problems at home who need a sense of power to feel safe so they approach them and have them run drugs for them and give them free easy cash and then slowly groom them into killing families

>>33557981 (OP)
tldr but the answer is: no, lmao

>> 33558919

You do have a point, it is their choice(expect for the ones who were trafficked). But even in the cases of serial killers and pedophiles and stuff, there’s always something that could’ve been done to stop them or atleast help them be functional humans. And for the case of prostitutes, the anti-porn movement we have now would be really beneficial to them if it was focused on holding the industry accountable for profiting of of abused people, but the movement only became mainstream when men’s personal issues were brought up(like erectile dysfunction from watching too much porn or having social problems), feminists have been opposing pornography since the 70’s but just now we see a good chunk of men going against because it’s not for women’s sake and more about them, they couldn’t care less if they’re watching women who was abused if it means they get to consume a female body in some way

>>33558978
>but just now we see a good chunk of men going against because it’s not for women’s sake and more about them, they couldn’t care less if they’re watching women who was abused if it means they get to consume a female body in some way
Nah, that's not the root of men's problems with porn. The root is it kills their relationships and their marriages if they have a woman already, and if they're single, it prevents them from actually pair bonding and knowing how to love and be loved, that's what kills them inside.

Also the problem with feminism's assault on the porn industry which I do respect, is feminism devoured itself. It hit a big nasty schism internally and split into two camps: sex positive feminism (porn enablers) and sex negatives (anti-porn)

Right now the mainstream feminist talking point is telling the world that sex work is valid, that sexual power is empowerment and that women should go get their money and power from their own bodies. Vanity and narcissism has taken root of the movement and that's why it lost its clout, long before males started doing a thing about porn

>>33558969
What do they see them as?

>>33558715
Truth. Women don’t see men as human.

90% of women out there do not love their man, they don't know how to love anyway; they only tolerate him as long as he provides.
Learn to be stoic and get by without their fake and subpar love therefore about 90% of women should be invisible to you. Rise up above your biological programming.
Take care of your health anons and find distractions to help pass the time, that's all most people do anyway, the difference is they do it with somebody so time wasted together flows differently.

>>33559137
Look at the anon on here crying about his breakup while his woman has moved on. Kek. It’s always the man who becomes depressed and drinks himself to death etc.

There’s also the knocked up femanon who just wants the guy she dumped to leave her alone, while he’s being a pest trying to “trick” her back.

The issue is men are still giving women their capacity for love. Which is a mistake since women do not want it. Women want to be whores.

>>33559257
It's true, almost know women are even capable of love.

>>33559447
No*

>>33558496
Yep, she's a lost cause.
>>33558719
Sadly common

>>33557981 (OP)
The longer I live the more I don’t see women as human. They are inhumane. Think different and live very differently. They are treated differently too.

>>33559137
true, but men do not acknowledge women as real people unless they are providing sex or household/emotional labor. it’s a two way street my g.

>>33557981 (OP)
As a femanon my only advice for you is to take a break from 4Chan and even the internet if necessary. These retards don't represent real life, the majority of men view women as human, as people, and act accordingly. Don't hate men, or fear them, treat them as you would want to be treated, and only welcome kind men into your life. There are some rotten ones, but there are also rotten women too.

>>33557981 (OP)
Feminists are implicitly misogynist because they equate male standards with essential humanity. I.e. their own humanity is defined relative to men, rather than independently.

I reject the premise. I treat women like women. I don't hate women, and I don't think they're worth less than men. But I don't think they're just like men, because they aren't. If this is "misogyny" to you, that's a you problem.

>>33560781
fake: says hes a femanon
gay: likes men

ITT: Men make many points about the innate differences between the sexes. Some men say they don't consider women human. Most say they do consider many human. Many claim to respect women. Almost all explain their thinking and viewpoint.

Then the women just say "men are bad because we don't get to do whatever we want. Except also men are bad when we do get to do whatever we want and then later regret it."

Kek

>>33560781
>Don't hate men, or fear them, treat them as you would want to be treated, and only welcome kind men into your life. There are some rotten ones, but there are also rotten women too.
Amen, sister

>>33560781
It’s the hundreds I encounter in real life that make me not see them as human

>>33557981 (OP)
No, the closest men will ever get to seeing human as women is seeing them as an accesory to their own being, an aid or something like that. They are terrified of recognizing women as intellectual equals. They want them to only exist to take care of them and their tiny dicks. This is because men's eyes can only see inside of themselves. I will now translate some scrote posts for easier reading:
>>33558216
>women are incapable of achieving true agency that's why they should fulfill their more important role of warming up my baby bottle and changing my diapers!
>>33558269
>I love women because one birthed me! My respect for half of the population only relates to how much they help ME
>>33558363
>Women's historical opression is comparable to when I cried about not having a car as a teen!
>>33558719
>Women's freedom is bad because they stop looking like the ones that make my peepee hard!

>>33560781
these are the kind of delusions that get women abused and killed.

>>33562451
>an accesory to their own being, an aid or something like that. They are terrified of recognizing women as intellectual equals. They want them to only exist to take care of them and their tiny dicks. This is because men's eyes can only see inside of themselves.
No man anywhere is terrified of being intellectually outclassed. They're annoyed that women are being loudly precocious about their intellect. You're entire post screams projection. The part that really gets me is
>I love women because one birthed me!
How terrible it is that women think there's nothing powerful about femineity or doing the one thing men are totally incapable of doing and arguably the only thing that matters.
>My respect for half of the population only relates to how much they help ME
This is how men exist in the world.

>>33557981 (OP)
As a man here is my perspective.

Women are human undeniably, and I see them as human. But to be human, especially in such an evil and soulless time as the current modern world of 2025, is to have a large number of conditions. The condition that befalls most, if not all, women - it's evil. To be a modern woman is to be evil. Pick any negative character trait, any vice, any failing of the human spirit, and you will always find multiple of the irredeemable ones in the average woman.

>You're just a misogynist!
No. Its not misogyny. It's looking at the prevalence of OnlyFans. It's seeing whores shamelessly out in the street being drunk and slutty at 3 in the morning on a wednesday. It's being constantly talked down to by women no matter if you're online, at work, watching TV or doing some public leisure activity. It's watching endless scores of women gleefully abort millions of their children. It's watching women fetishize sexual encounters with ghetto black men and literal animals because they simply can. It's being looked at like dirt when you try and put yourself up in the dating market because you are expected to fulfill such wild expectations that a demigod couldn't fill them. It's watching your relationships and those of your friends fail over and over, simply because the women in these situations couldn't hold back their overwhelming desire to lie, cheat, steal and destroy.

You used to be sacred, divine, earth-bound angels, completely unironically. Men worshipped you so long as you fulfilled the noble role of being a good and virtuous woman. Part of the blame for modern women falls on evil men too, of course, but still - as it now stands, you've caused so much damage to humanity through embracing your evil that it's irreversible.

>>33562505
>”No. Its not misogyny”
>lists misogynistic views of women
kek. EVERY man is sexist as fuck.

>>33562505
>Men worshipped you so long
this is actual fucking delusions, i hope you are seeing a doctor for your mental health. there has never been a single moment in history where a man has liked, let alone worshipped a woman. that is literal insanity, you are genuinely retarded if you believe this. it is a lie that men tell to make women feel bad about their distrust of them. history is filled with rape, abuse and murder of women. nothing more.

>>33562507
>The woman cannot refute the actual message and must play semantics over the intentional bait embedded to catch them out in their dishonesty

Congratulations. You have displayed a key evil I am referring to, that of intellectual dishonesty and the impulsive need to twist and manipulate words. Hook, line and fucking sinker.

>>33562509
>there has never been a single moment in history where a man has liked, let alone worshipped a woman
>history is filled with rape, abuse and murder of women. nothing more.

The irony of saying this and then squawking about mental health and delusions is just delicious.

Like, have a moment to really take in your own words - you have just functionally stated that every single relationship ever had between a man and a woman has been nothing more than a vengeful, malicious forcing of rape and eventual death onto them. Not only that, you have just denied every single historical event that has ever happened that did not directly involve a woman. Every single war, every single invention, every single exploration - didn't happen because it's not the rape or murder of a woman.

You are a special kind of stupid I rarely see.

>>33562501
>How terrible it is that women think there's nothing powerful about femineity or doing the one thing men are totally incapable of doing

It's only valued because it's useful to men. I'm not saying it isn't powerful but having your entire value as a human being reduced to how many babies you can give men cause they can't do it on their own doesn't sound that powerful to me.

>>33557981 (OP)
After being in a relationship with my gf for 6 years, she's now in her mid 20's and I have to treat her more like a child than a responsible adult. So in my eyes, majority of women are adult children. They're coddled by society and have this illusion that they're in charge of their own lives.

>>33557981 (OP)
>What do you think of women?
They don't talk to me so I don't think much of anything of them

>>33562516
they are facts then men struggle to comprehend for some reason. they hate the truth about their misogyny and pretend it doesn’t exist while acknowledging their sexist views of women. but not misogynistic right?

>>33562517
The dishonesty here is astounding. You know full well femininity isn't about just shitting out babies. It's about physical beauty. it's about elegance and refinement. It's about being kind and gentle and nurturing towards those who need it. It's about reeling in the pigheadedness of people and providing an authoritative-yet-empathetic guiding hand.

You know that full well, so let's stop the fucking cap.

>>33562525
let me repeat myself: You have just DENIED EVERY HISTORICAL EVENT THAT EVER HAPPENED THAT WASN'T A RAPE OR MURDER OF A WOMAN.

I know you're a complete idiot, but can you seriously not comprehend even slightly how this presents a problem on, gee I don't know, the entire fucking causality of the last 100,000 millenia? How do you suppose you're typing this retarded premise out at me, hm? You don't actually think someone raped your phone/PC into existence, do you?

>>33562530
>The dishonesty here is astounding. You know full well femininity isn't about just shitting out babies. It's about physical beauty. it's about elegance and refinement. It's about being kind and gentle and nurturing towards those who need it. It's about reeling in the pigheadedness of people and providing an authoritative-yet-empathetic guiding hand.
misogynistic jewish psyop language. men have NEVER thought like this about women. all they see when they look at women are:
>available holes
>unavailable holes
>rape/molestation opportunities
>mommy

>let me repeat myself: You have just DENIED EVERY HISTORICAL EVENT THAT EVER HAPPENED THAT WASN'T A RAPE OR MURDER OF A WOMAN.
i’m talking about historical events that involved women retard

>>33562534
>i’m talking about historical events that involved women retard

Weakest excuse for posting a retarded argument I've ever seen. But I'll bite. So I guess the writing of Frankenstein by Mary Shelley was raped into happening? or was she murdered and the ink happened to spill onto the book in perfect sentences?

Or here's one - radium and polonium, I guess they weren't discovered via scientific research but by her being raped, right?

See how easy it is to point out how retarded you are? I'm not even going to bother addressing your lies about "misogynistic jewish psyop language" because you're just lying and doing so knowingly. Your low cunning in doing so isn't intellectual, it just betrays how fucking moronic you actually are that you think anyone would fall for this shit.

>>33562551
you are actually a retard for believing some (very few) men genuinely like women and worship them. that is brain damage.

>>33562565
You can't refute it with anything but insults and lies tinged with salt from your own miserable experiences that happened because you're insufferable and also probably fat and ugly. Go back to college fuckwit, they could use some more suckers like you to pay for the alumni's next wine and cheese night.

>>33562551
nothing i said was a lie. men just get so butthurt when they’re confronted by their deep rooted beliefs of women. they have. created so many psyops to make women victims to romantic emotions:
>disney movies
>the redesigned reason for “marriage” (love)
>the concept of soul mates
they are the true cunning ones.

>>33562530
>It's about physical beauty
To be attractive to men
>Being kind and gentle and nurturing towards those who need it
Being men's emotional support robots

>>33562570
you are spreading misogynistic psyops about how men have historically felt towards women. i hope no women read your response and believed it because they are at risk for abuse, if they trust a man that tells them they will “worship” them. that is laughable. they only worship themselves and each other.

>>33562573
right. they are only interested in bangmaids. if you are not a bangmaid, you will be socially disposed of and treated like a monster or invisible because you are not fuckable to them.

>>33562571
Way to continue edging around actually making a genuine rebuttal of any points I made, dickhead! Try again when you have something that isn't schizoid nonsense to say.

>>33562573
>>33562580
>>33562576
Samefagging and making retarded points based in your own delusions is crazy. You are literally just mad because you are a poor judge of character like all women. Hope getting fucked by some loser and then never called again was worth it considering how bitter you are, I guess maybe you should have shown restraint!

>>33562585
>Samefagging and making retarded points based in your own delusions is crazy.
bro is so paranoid he thinks i’m samefagging lmaoooo. no you are just making retarded points that nobody agrees with or believes because it’s misogynistic drivel bullshit.

ITT:

1-2 bitter femcels make increasingly deluded and retarded posts trying to convince some random that they're justified in being miserable cunts and blaming everyone else for it.

>>33562585
>>33562580 and >>33562576 aren't me you fucking retard. And how am I edging around your points, genuinely.

>>33562425
This is normal. Women see most men as actual garbage they have to wade through to get to “the one”.

>>33562590
another man butthurt by the truth. love to see it.

the opposite of a bitter femcel is a whore and you hate those too.

>>33562589
>I'm not samefagging says samefag

how fucking new are you lmao>>33562595
>>33562594
>>33562592
At least two of these are you and the other person is just an actual fucking schizoid

>>33562594
This is normal. Men see most women as actual garbage they have to wade through to get to “the one”.

>>33562600
this nigger is paranoid as fuck. playing amoogus irl.

>>33562600
Holy shit. You actual FUCKING retard, we're different people. Are you actually just repeating this to yourself???

>>33562595
>In your mind every woman either must fuck everyone they possibly can or be hurt and miserable from being taken advantage of

Holy fucking shit lmao and I'm supposed to be the misogynist, you do realise there exist women who aren't miserable cunts like you, right?

>>33562451
For thousands of years men have carried all the burdens of providing and everything that comes with civilization. Now it's women's time to pick up the slack and carry civilization forward.
My plan is to be a neet and for women wagies to pay their fair share by providing for me and everybody else in society for the next six thousand years.

It's time for men to sit back, relax and take it very easy for the next two thousand years at the very least. We earned it after all.

>>33562606
>>33562605
>Thinks this proves anything

How fucking new are you people

>>33562451
>>33562507
>>33562509

This is so stupid. Talking to women is pointless. They just crawl into their feelings and lie shamelessly.

>>33562612
you're actually schizophrenic

>>33562607
yes and they are the same ones who get abused by men. another man hurt by the truth

>>33562618
You're actually a faggot lmao

>>33562600
My post went in twice for whatever reason.

>>33557981 (OP)
modern democratic society treats women better than any in history. shut up

>>33562610
nothing new. women have had to baby men since the beginning of time.

>>33562616
>They just crawl into their feelings and lie shamelessly.
ITT: men lying about not seeing women as people and “worshipping them” LMAOOOOO

>>33562620
Every post you make is somehow more unfathomably retarded than the last it's crazy

>>33562623
One step closer to isolating the two retards posting schizoid femcel nonsense

>>33562624
delusional

>>33562636
prove it wrong you literal retard. Or just cope and seethe.

>>33562639
just look through this thread and see all the men still spreading lies to women, trying to lower their guard to make them easier to abuse. also the men agreeing with op about not seeing women and human. use your eyes and common sense nigger. their brain has no capacity for empathy.

>>33562610
Problem with female dominating is the vitriol they have for men. The female geist can be seen in the propaganda, and it’s pure hatred, they don’t need men, men are stupid, men shouldn’t even look at a woman etc. This is why the society will collapse. The male geist works because the propaganda is to save the princess, protect and provide and be romantic.

The idea that men don’t see women as human (when women think men don’t even have emotions, and when they show them, they are disgusted by them). Is funny. Every metric indicates it’s the exactly other way around, but women are so insanely narcissistic they still somehow come back around to thinking they are the victims, because how dare you make a request of a princess? You must think she’s an object for your desires. Kek.

>>33562648
>You're lying
>no you're lying

It doesn't work like that you fucking moron you're making a retarded claim so YOU have to back it up with actual facts and real-world evidence, not your schizoid babbling and emotinally-charged whinging.

If you weren't a retarded genetic dead end that even a nigger wouldn't creampie you'd be able to figure that out.

>>33562648
i mean. you can believe whatever you'd like idc. i just know that one visit to afghanistan would have you wishing you were back at home seething online with le incels

>>33562650
These are wayyyy too high-minded concepts for the smooth-brained femcels here to understand. i doubt any of them have ever even encountered the word "geist".

>>33562648
What about the replies from men that didn't spread lies? You are selecting what your mind wants to select, because you are looking for men who hate women and if you look for men who hate women that is exactly what you will find. You have trust issues with men, because you probably got abused. I'm sorry for that, but it does not give you the right to say all men are abusers with no capacity for empathy. I got abused by two women in my life, should I turn around and say all women are evil or psychotic?

>>33562651
>a nigger wouldn't creampie
thank god

>>33562650
>You must think she’s an object for your desires.
Unironically yes.

>>33562658
You don't get approval for that you walking trainwreck.

>>33562657
>I got abused by two women in my life, should I turn around and say all women are evil or psychotic?
you do, it just doesn’t fit the narrative and lies you’re trying to push right now.

>>33562662
but women should choose better right? they shouldn’t fuck niggers and end up with mongrel niglets? but also not fucking niggers shouldn’t be celebrated? men twist the narrative to criticize whatever action they take.

>>33562665
>you do, it just doesn’t fit the narrative and lies you’re trying to push right now.
I don't. I only made a few posts ITT:
>>33558109
>>33558646
>>33558919
>>33558947
>>33559009

These ones. Nowhere have I spread lies about women. My point is, answering my own question: "Should I call all women evil" for being a used by two women before, no I shouldn't do that because that would be very, very stupid.

And I think you shouldn't do the same for all men either, and what will help you believe that not all men are wicked is you need to stop looking for them. And you do look for them, you do that every time to pick fights with them.

>>33557981 (OP)
You have to understand that discussing this on the 'chan is a zero sum game, the emotional hatred of women came before the "logical" arguments for why women are evil or whatever. That's why every misogynist on this website will immediately switch frames and switch the narrative when you refute anything they say. They just hate women and want justification for that and rationalize it post-hoc. You have to let people like this figure shit out for themselves. I used to hate women because I was a sheltered loser until I started having meaningful relationships with them and realized they were more similar than different.

>>33562661
You think men treat women like lamps?

>>33562673
You are just using those women like objects to fulfil your needs. Not seeing them as humans.

>>33562671
>And I think you shouldn't do the same for all men either
why shouldn’t i when they are genuinely all like that?

>>33562666
Let me put this simply for your retarded mind.

The point isn't whether fucking niggers is good or not.

The point is that you made an attempt to gain a bit of approval with that post.

That's pathetic and a cop out. It's also something women do often because it's a character trait common to them.

My response is to treat you as i would A MAN, and to deny you that approval very, very fucking bluntly.

Are you able to fucking understand that, retard? Are you able to understand that whether or not you hypothetically would fuck a nigger isn't the fucking point?

Are you able to understand that I just don't want to give you the cheap bit of validation that you wanted? And that it's because your attempt was pathetic?

Well, fuckwit?

>>33562682
why would i want a man’s approval? they only approve of women if they are fulfilling them sexually or emotionally.

>>33562678
I'm 90% sure you're trolling or false-flagging, but that is not the case, and you shouldn't reprimand men for escaping the misogyny rabbit hole.

>>33562687
>Here's my opinion, please validate me
>What? You didn't validate me? Why aren't you validating me?
>Heh, why do you think I want your validation?

This right here is why men do not take you seriously.

>>33562680
>why shouldn’t i when they are genuinely all like that?
Are they? Because I've never abused a single woman in my life femanon

>>33562687
This is true. Men tend to only like women when they are pleasant to be around.

>>33562704
The irony will be lost on this retard, anon. they'll just use it as a gotcha that men only want to rape or some inane shit they tell themselves to cope with the fact nobody wants to be with them.

>>33562696
idgaf if you validate me or not, my opinions are true but extreme and i didn’t expect any man to agree with them.

>>33562700
you are either lying or you have to wait longer, you will eventually.

>>33557981 (OP)
>even in the most progressive countries I could notice [...] misogyny
proof women are always bitching, right there

anyway, enjoy your brief stint of freedom, because your status will soon be back at the level it always was throughout human history (and still is for most of human females all around the world).
late 20th century in western countries was an anomaly that is being corrected as we speak. on all fronts.
to get an idea of what's coming, all you have to do is check out a random muslim country near you.

>>33562704
men don’t care if women are pleasant or not. if women are either fulfilling sexual fantasies/needs and validating their emotions through mommy/ddlg dynamics or making themselves look good to other men socially, they couldn’t give a shit about a woman’s character.

>>33562714
>even in the most progressive countries I could notice [...] misogyny
>“you are lying”
>”also breaking news: more misogyny coming to your country soon!!!”

>>33562709
No, your opinions are extreme and untrue. if you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd realise that the way to solve your problem of being a miserable, undesirable fucking loser is to go and actually put some effort into being a likeable person and maybe getting the fuck out of your room and buying some nice clothes and some skincare products. Maybe act like a fucking human being and not the spiteful, envious, hideous, insufferable fucking dickhead you choose to continue being at this very moment.

But you are too retarded and probably self-loathing to get off your fat ass and make a decent woman out of yourself - and that goes for if you're a tranny too - that instead you're going to sit here and keep farming our attention and self-actualising your retarded and miserable nihilism.

>>33562700
It’s a feminist who has constructed a wall. You can’t get through to her. Some dude just got his face sliced up trying to be a hero for some women. Anyone with more than two brain cells and a bone of honesty knows men overwhelmingly love and treasure women, to a fault. It’s the reverse that can be argued.

>>33562714
Fuck off Muhammad.

>>33562727
>Anyone with more than two brain cells and a bone of honesty knows men overwhelmingly love and treasure women
get your brain checked out, you have been hit in the head extremely hard and are experiencing delusions.

>>33562704
I’m talking about women, they are too evil to be human.

Femcel disappeared as soon as I told them to actually get their shit together and how fucking simple it is. What a surprise, as with all women the second you try and fix their self-inflicted problem they run for the hills.

This femcel retard is going to die lonely and miserable because it's the logical conclusion to their insistence on being a genetic dead end and terminal loser.

>>33562720
Men sticking around in sexless marriage is so common it’s a meme. Men tend to have these ideas of obligation and sacrifice. And all your posts here about showing men affection of any sort, or their need for it, as being essentially pathetic (and somehow dehumanising to you), pretty well demonstrates the reverse of OP’s implication.

>>33562517
And what is wrong with being useful to men? What is wrong with men being useful to women? That’s the point of the two sexes is that they make a cohesive whole that support each other. Women create new life and new consciousness, men support the process. Both men and women need to sacrifice physicality in order to do this. When you are in a relationship, you do things for another person sometimes at your own expense. Ownership has nothing to do with it.

>>33562758
>you are going to die alone because you do not accept mens psyops and lies

>>33562770
Welcome back retard. I'm guessing that you were busy crying or feeling sorry for yourself rather than doing something useful like, I dunno, throwing out all the shitty snacks you have that made you into the fatass you are? Or cleaning your room because I KNOW that shit is messy as hell.

>>33562760
>Men sticking around in sexless marriage
every man sexless is doing it by choice. all men cheat eventually, women need to accept that because that’s what causes abuse and a high divorce rate. they need to stfu and accept that men need sex every day, if women won’t provide it they will find it elsewhere and if they disagree, they are straight up lying. as long as he is providing who cares.

>>33562773
>all men cheat eventually
Fuck off chimp.

>>33562772
>knows i’m right so derails to insulting my appearance
i won

>>33562775
called me a chimp but not a liar.

>>33562777
You haven't won jack shit. You're sitting on 4chan making random anons give you attention because nobody else will. At least everyone else is here because they enjoy posting.

Looks like i struck a nerve though, go and exercise at the gym you fact cunt, maybe that's why nobody likes you aside from being a miserable twit.

>>33562779
I called you a chimp because you're a low-I.Q impulsive subhuman who thinks everyone is like him.

>>33557981 (OP)
Our women are human, and our natures (psychological and physiological) certainly overlap quite a bit, but the differences between us matter much more than our current heavily lefty globohomo world would let us believe.
A lot of 'redpill' and 'inceldom' is propelled by turd worldoids trying and failing to get with white women, and their pornographiclly fried minds trying to reconcile myth with reality. Their opinions and desperation does not matter, and provide strong reason why our women should be kept separate from them.
As for the women and their treatment in their countries, I don't care. I don't think *any* of them are human, irrespective of sex.

>>33562758
women blame everything on men, nobody told them to have sex with strangers, nobody told them to get tattoos, piercings and orange skin cancer.

>>33562783
proved my point again kek

>>33562801
porn told them. if women don’t look like pornstars, children or a man’s mom, men are not interested.

>>33562805
You're not making any points, you're just spouting sad delusional bullshit and calling it factual. Go take a shower.

>>33562811
again, men are incapable of accepting their nature and continue to lie and manipulate women.

ATTENTION LADS:

This retarded femcel has run their course. They have now made this thread lame.

In essence, it's time to take this to its logical conclusion. So with that,

Kill yourself already femcel. You are fat, ugly, and used goods. Nobody wants you and you are a fucking loser with no prospects. You're a waste of space and the best thing you can do is unironically kill yourself. That will solve your problem.

Please consider hanging yourself. Bye. I pray the other anons will repeat this message.

>>33562807
my idea of a pornstar is a pale white teen with no tattoos and piercings. not some tatted hag with orange skin that fucks monkeys for a couple hundred dollars.

>>33557981 (OP)
women are soft, pretty and they smell good
<3 women

>>33562824
>>33562777

>>33562829
>children
>pale white teen
>teen = as young as legally possible
kek. all men are pedos.

>>33562849
I never said children

>>33562863
you didn’t have to, we all know

>>33562712
>you are either lying or you have to wait longer, you will eventually.
Okay. I've been waiting half my lifespan so far, I'm mid thirties and never abused a woman, dated a bunch before and I'm married and still ain't abused one. In my whole life I got abused twice by women. Never even abused them back, I could have and it would have been easy, but I chose not to because I have my own dignity to keep.

>>33562876
>chose not to because I have my own dignity to keep.
liar

>>33562650
>Problem with female dominating
It's part of the illusion, they think they have power but in reality that is not so. Everything women believe in was created by men, not just any men though but magicians of the highest order. Things might be shaky right now because we are in the process of transitioning, so to you it looks like it's collapsing but women will simply step up to the plate and pick up the slack so that everything goes smoothly just like men have done for thousands of years in the past.

Most women are vaxxed remember that and when the next operation drops they will bite just like they have always done. 80% of women are genetic dead ends and the herd will have to be trimmed slowly. The will have a blast watch it all unfold over the next two decades, I can guarantee you that.

>>33557981 (OP)
>i want to ask the most male dominated site, what do you think of this?
You're a retard, touch grass
>Do you agree?
No, i hate/love people depending on how they behave, there are men/women that i view with less respect then insects and would torture them to death if ever presented with the opportunity, and there are men/women whom i would take a bullet for, it's entirely dependent on how they carry themselves regardless of gender, an evil annoying hardcore feminist wouldn't suddenly become likeable if she turned to a guy magically
>What do you think of women?
Generally? I don't think much about them because generalisations are stupid. You need to be more specific about your question

>>33562872
If 18 is a child then yes I’m attracted to that. Keep seething.

>>33562932
you would go lower if it was legal. EVERY MAN WOULD.

>>33562943
>EVERY MAN WOULD.
This has to be a troll, it would be too depressing otherwise

>>33562948
the truth is depressing

>>33562943
Not prepubescent. Actual children have no attractive features. Keep seething.

>>33562954
>the truth is depressing
Yeah but why though? Why would a woman seethe this hard on a mongolian basket weaving fourm?

>>33558034
FPBP

>>33562962
it’s the nature of all men to find children attractive

>>33562967
that parts wrong, you are talking about women that have sex with little boys under 16 and everyone just shrugs it off because it’s “normal”.

>>33562975
men can’t be raped by women

>>33562977
and this is why women aren’t human.

>>33557981 (OP)
>the only way prejudice against women could ever fully end is if we all died and restarted society all over again lol
In my life as a man, there are certain social expectations of me - when I fail to meet these roles, fail to do these things, I don't think that society is evil or misguided for thrusting these roles onto me, I think I have failed for not meeting what was needed of me. These roles did not float in from the void, but took shape from the material conditions of this world. You might advise me to throw off these standards I may never be able to fully meet - but I would never feel in my heart that I was truly free of them, only that I would be a rebel against a more authentic and truer way of living, the only order that gives real meaning and purpose for social and political animals like us.
Yes, being a woman carries certain roles and expectations. Yes, there are social norms and rules for you that are different from men. Yes, these do come from your procreative abilities, and all other smaller and greater differences that define women. I once mistook this for a horrible double standard - but in time, I realized this was a natural outcome reflecting how truly different men and women are from each other. Even if you tried to restart society, I think it would naturally lead to this present state again, because the material conditions that led us here have not really changed fundamentally.

if some wrinkly racemixing hag touched me sexually that would be rape. It’s unforgivable.

>>33562997
game is game

>>33562999
I’ll play the game by beating the rapist (female) to death. don’t force your degeneracy on me.

>>33557981 (OP)
women are middle-functioning autistic men.

>>33563002
men secretly enjoy it

>>33563007
no, if a coalburner touches me sexually she’s done.

>>33563007
Also you are a pedophile for calling little boys under 16 men.>>33562977

>>33563013
they are. they’re sexually mature.

>>33563016
Lots of guys in my school didn’t have their balls drop before 16.

>>33563022
they still get horny and can have sex though. men or boys can’t be traumatised by sex with women, only other men. this is why they celebrate when they learn school boys have been “”groomed”” by their female teachers.

my coworkers son had sex with a woman in her 50s while he was 14. the father celebrated and took him out for beer, the mother was slightly upset but overall indifferent.

>>33563027
why are women allowed to be pedophiles ? that’s fucked up.

>>33563031
because boys and men enjoy sex. female on male rape will never be the same as male on female. men and boys can always fight back but they don’t. why is that? because they enjoy it.

>>33557981 (OP)
yes we view you as humans
no, being a human does not mean you are automatically given everything you want

>>33562943
pedantry is so boring, everyone knows what a child is and being into that is what makes you a sick fuck
post-pubescent women - even if we say oh no she is 17 yrs and 11 months and 30 days old, that's not a gotcha. they look clearly at the ready stage of sexual development, but we agree on 18 as a convention because pretty much all women have hit readiness at that age
>inb4 muh exceptioooons
who cares

>>33563044
there are no exceptions, all men are pedos.

>>33563049
if I jack off to human shota on female anthro does that count?

>>33563033
females enjoy sex that’s why they have higher body counts than men. That’s why the only “jokes” they tell are all sexual. and you are saying it’s ok that women have sex with little children under 16 because “men can’t be raped and they like it”. women aren’t human.

>>33563049
you are a complete ignoramus, or a third worlder
i.e. the same thing, and therefore any further thoughts you have about anything do not matter

>>33563088
In this same thread that animal said women aren’t pedophiles because little boys are men and men can’t be raped.

>>33563106
so? it’s true.

>>33557981 (OP)
I see women as very implacable, entitled, judgemental, materialistic, pretentious, belligerent, vapid humans *at best*.
At their worst, women are actively vindictive and sociopathically malevolent amoral homunculus kinds of entities that men can never truly escape the torment of.

Men have three options, kill themselves, leave society, or gamble on women.

Women are nature's internet trolls. They like to troll men 24 hours a day from birth to death.
By default, men are nature's lolcows. They *can't* help but be trolled 24/7 by women every day.

So in an effort to maintain sanity, men try to bargain with women, which usually becomes something closer to a transaction,
but because women are also crybullies they very often forgoe the transaction and turn everything into a ransom.

Costs have risen for placating women, and so men involuntarily leave society.
Women like to pretend men got worse, but really female trolling of men has gotten much worse over time.

>>33563110
women have an excuse for everything including being pedophiles.

>>33563161
woman pedophiles do not exist

>>33563113
(2/?)

It's centuries of karmic debt piling on men. Poverty leads to maladaptive coping, maladaptive coping leads to trauma, trauma leads to poverty, the cycle repeats. Women got so used to micro-analyzing abuse patterns in men that they collectively became PhD's on the subject. They know every emotional/psychological manipulation tactic out there. It's like when guys watch 'El Chapo' or 'Wolf of Wall Street' and start thinking they're gonna be rich alpha male types and binge andrew tate. Women learn all these malicious patterns by heart throgh femle-focused abuse media and true crime and then over compensate in a very dystopian way by emulating the very oppressors they stood up against.

>>33563164
Lots of adult women have sex with boys as young as 12.

>>33563113
>>33563168
Posts are good.

>>33563168
(3/3)

They call it 'female empowerment' but the 'feminine' notion of power is derived from a very specific playbook of abusing others. The discourse surrounding power has been utterly warped by the incomplete perspectives of power formed by the traumatic victimhood of the oppressed individuals. Oppressed people due to never occupying power have a very juvenile and crass notion of power that involves waving a "magical wand" and getting any wish that you want. Real power comes from a 'masculine' sense of restraint, consideration, duty, jurisprudence, accountability, responsibility, and other virtues. Power is leadership, not domination.

This inevitably places feminists in a tricky position: Do they succumb to internalized misogyny by becoming 'masculine'? Do they 'regress' back to the stability of modernistic motherhood? Do they declare full nihilism and do as they like? There's no real outlets to this ideological vector. It's cathartic rebellion by way of mutually assured stagnation, and it's happening in all the progressive countries of the world.

The solution is to "play fair". Actively lay down fair interactions, honor those fair interactions, establish clear consequences for defiling those interactions. Regardless of relationships, bad strategies are always destructive, where good strategies are not, and the best strategies involve those where everybody wins. Negotiate those best strategies and life with people gets easier in general.

>>33563239
Men are retreating from relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens, everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable and if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there in the void that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen, once. As she is in the dark, without distortion, without irony, without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges and where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire, as visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

>>33557981 (OP)
I used to (and many still do), then I realized it was a mistake. I saw how shit the society became when we put them in power and kept taking women's advice. I started noticing that most problems are created by women, whereas when hanging out with men, things always go smoothly.

Women are still more intelligent than any pet, and they are great in some emotional and creative domains, but women's tendencies also cause a lot of problems so they should be kept in check. Not sure if that counts as "human", but men and women certainly aren't equal.

>>33562720
>if women [list of desirable female characteristics] they couldn’t give a shit about a woman’s character.
you played yourself
Also, it's the same for women, as long as a man provides and protects, they don't give a shit about anything else.

>>33562943
No shit. A child's purity (opposite of modern women) combined with a few years of sexual development which starts at around 10, means she peaks somewhere around 13. A few years higher or lower depending on how ripe you like. It's the ultimate forbidden fruit. That's why most of the elite sphere took the chance to go on the island when given the chance.

>>33557981 (OP)
I think you should stop reading leftist media and stop listening to your friends who hate men because they have not had success dating. What a load of bullshit you typed. No wonder men are checking out of society when this is how we are labelled. Your replies confirm, you just hate men and are projecting.
By the way, you voted to import the men who make you feel unsafe at night

>> 33563472
Hey, how have i been hateful so far? I’ve tried to keep a respectful debate as much as i could, didn’t expect to get as many replies, people have (mostly) been respectful too. And also, im not American.

>> 33562673
I somewhat expected that, i was just curious. I actually was surprised by how many people gave good and respectful answers, i read all of it (well atleast for a hour or something i dont have time to read all the 207 answers) just didn’t answer everything because its annoying to go trough this captcha just to say “yeah agree” or something. I also had to overcome my misandry some years ago because it just wasn’t efficient for me to be so full of hatred, now i have very meaningful and nourishing social circles. I think we should look at how a system makes people think and behave collectively but on a individual level judge them for their own character. Now ill make dinner and i probably wont access this site again, bye bye

>>33562451
>intentionally bad misrepresentations of every post
gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8

>>33557981 (OP)
>men/human society
by men you mean men of character that there are none. about 50% are literally below average, females make what i see as a mistake of using the word 'man' to describe what is actually a dude/guy/manchild-boy. by extension 50% of females would also be below average and a girl in a womans world wont get far
>What do you think of women?
its simply a different wavelength and both can agree to the stupidity of the other

>>33562451
>No, the closest men will ever get to seeing human as women is seeing them as an accesory to their own being, an aid or something like that. They are terrified of recognizing women as intellectual equals. They want them to only exist to take care of them and their tiny dicks. This is because men's eyes can only see inside of themselves.
I find it interesting how often stuff like this ends up being very precise projection, especially by the manhater type of feminist and womanhater type of incel, respectively.
I'm glad to be in contact with real people of both (and beyond) genders that show they are capable of compassion and understanding even for those that have different struggles and pressures to deal with. I hope you get more of those too, anon.

>>33558484
there is gay porn

>>33562653
>i mean. you can believe whatever you'd like idc. i just know that one visit to afghanistan would have you wishing you were back at home seething online with le incels
Femcel troons BTFO into silence

Men don't see women as men.
We see women as occupying a different sphere of life.
Imagine your boss dressed a chimp in a suit and had it pretend to do your job. The situation would be comical if this wasn't an everyday reality in Western society.
Procreation and the rearing of the next generation is the most important role because 1. It provides replacement humans 2. It determines the future culture of the people. 3. Teaches women not to be selfish narcissists.