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Anonymous No.5018667 >>5018694 >>5018978 >>5019722 >>5022054 >>5032250 >>5035145 >>5043406
/herp/ - Reptile & Amphibian General:
Tempting Fate Edition

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This thread is dedicated to all animals of the Reptilia and Amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answered
Classifieds for finding breeders and products:
>morphmarket.com
>kingsnake.com
>faunaclassifieds.com
>caudata.org
Most forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.

When asking a question, make sure to include these details:
>Type and size of animal
>Enclosure dimensions
>Humidity and temperature
>Type of substrate
>The decor you use
>How often you feed
>The type of food you use
>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred
>How often you handle
>Who you bought the animal from

Other Helpful Resources
www.blackjungleterrariumsupply.com
www.joshsfrogs.com
http://www.reptilesmagazine.com
http://www.anapsid.org
http://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htm
https://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.html
Anonymous No.5018670 >>5018673
Every day is a struggle to resist buying a Nile monitor.
Anonymous No.5018673 >>5018825
>>5018670
Whats stopping you? Space?
Anonymous No.5018694 >>5018707 >>5018774
>>5018667 (OP)
Talk me out of buying one of these /herp/
Anonymous No.5018707
>>5018694
They killed my grandma, ok!
Anonymous No.5018774 >>5019663
>>5018694
If you have space for a huge pond enclosure and you have a plan for what happens to the turtle if you die (they can live 50-80 years), go for it.
Anonymous No.5018777 >>5018829 >>5018832
Realistically do turtles actually need the 10 gal/inch? Or is 5-8/inch enough? Assuming basking area, big ass canister filter, enough hornwort and floaters to survive turt, etc.

My kiddo really wants one and the local mom's group has one trying to be rehomed. It is a 6-8" slider (or possibly map turtle the pics aren't clear), and has lived for about 10 years in a 29g before one died (shocker!) so I was thinking a 40br with a basking topper, could add plenty of guppies, snails, and shrimp from another tank and maybe throw some platys or least killis in as snacking friends. I don't really have physical space in my house for much larger than 40g, with my other 3 fish tanks and various terrariums.
Anonymous No.5018825
>>5018673
That and I don't think I could man handle one if it ever needs to go to the vet for something serious.
Anonymous No.5018829 >>5018843
>>5018777
Consolidate all your aquariums and terrariums into one big pond for it.
Anonymous No.5018832
>>5018777
Look for musk turtles if you want something that can live comfortably in a 40g
Anonymous No.5018843
>>5018829
Eventually I will but I have a tiny backyard right now (about 200 sqft of grass) and the frost line is 48" down.
Anonymous No.5018978
>>5018667 (OP)
Hello everyone. I have a spare 20g long that was originally going to be for my pixie frog until I got a better enclosure for it. This tank would go into my living room so Id like it to be a good display tank. Here are some ideas I have.
>fire belly toads
The local pet stores here still have them for $20 each. I guess we're lucky that theres a breeder in the area that sells to them, because apparently theyve become hard to find and expensive
>Grow out tank for colubrids
Ive been really entertaining the idea of getting a Cal King, Bull Snake, or Honduran Milksnake. Obviously this would be a grow out tank and I can accomodate for when they grow. I regularly come across the first two in the wild and can make a naturalistic setup easy peezy
Thoughts, suggestions, or recomendations??
Anonymous No.5019648
>>5018449
This is a highly subjective topic, pertaining to specific species and the context surrounding whatever the suggested minimum is. For example,
>>5018541
I likewise keep my crested gecko in an 18x18x24. He's now 55 grams and plenty active. Could he be in something bigger? Sure, absolutely - but I would disagree with the notion that it's a requirement. Further, I can discern no objective merit to his quality of life by increasing the size of the enclosure.
That said, most people do still keep their reptiles in poor environments, whether by size or other insufficient parameters. Japanese reptile twitter is a smorgasbord of everything wrong you can do in the hobby. The standard is to keep things like african fat tails in a 20-gallon with either a puppy pad or, presumably, some form of clay balls as the only substrate. They're lucky to have even one hide most of the time.
So, if the choice is split between either going too far above or too far below the actual requirements for a given species, I'd lean towards more, if only for the welfare of the animal itself. I can think of little reason to justify a smaller than recommended (in most cases) enclosure as its permanent home.
Anonymous No.5019663 >>5020767
>>5018774
Yeah my local dealer told me no unless I have a 7 by 7 foot pond indoors or a heated outdoors which will cost a fortune and possibly result in quite a few of my neighbors cats disappearing. Bearing in mind I live in a terraced house surrounded by other houses where people let their cats walk everywhere while my garden is probably 8 or 10 feet wide at the very most. It fucking sucks. They told me I could possibly get away with an alligator snapping turtle because they don't swim or do jack but the downsize is that it's a fucking alligator snapping turtle.
Anonymous No.5019670 >>5019673 >>5019680 >>5019702 >>5023234
Can anyone recommend me a herp that is naturally wide or fat/wrinkly/stocky? I already have a fat ass frog but I have space for one more herp and want something similarly fugly which is preferably not another frog.
Anonymous No.5019673 >>5019677
>>5019670
Do bearded dragons or blue tongue skinks pop up on your radar at all? Much easier to get keep than frogs but similarly useless retardes with a bit more nuance in personality.
Anonymous No.5019677
>>5019673
>Do bearded dragons or blue tongue skinks pop up on your radar at all
I did consider them but they are not exactly my style of rotund if that makes sense. Uromastyxs are closer to what I am looking at in comparison to skinks or beardeds which I am keeping an eye on but if there are other reptiles which are more fugly/fat/rotund/wrinkly/stocky it would be appreciated. Amphibians are not much of problem for me because I am used to the care requirements for my frog but obviously most of the amphibians that check off my list are frogs which I already have (once you get a frog you have practically seen them all behavior wise).
Anonymous No.5019680 >>5019683
>>5019670
Blood/Short tailed pythons
Anonymous No.5019683
>>5019680
Haven't really considered snakes but I will check them out regardless
Anonymous No.5019702 >>5019703 >>5020085
>>5019670
Leachie geckos are fun wrinkly little dudes
Anonymous No.5019703 >>5020085
>>5019702
Can confirm. Just got mine this weekend
Anonymous No.5019722 >>5019724 >>5022142 >>5028432
>>5018667 (OP)
>putting your finger that close to a snapping turtle
That's a lot of faith he's putting in that turtle.
Anonymous No.5019724
>>5019722
Looks friendly enough
Anonymous No.5020085 >>5020660
>>5019702
>>5019703
Leachie posting
Anonymous No.5020110
I love aldabra tortoises. They look like miniature sauropods.
Anonymous No.5020514 >>5020674 >>5020880
apartment is warm as a oven (28 degrees) is it a good idea to have a bigger water receptical for my ballpython to soak in if it wants to cool down or will it just not use it?
Anonymous No.5020660
>>5020085
That's some impressive sticking power.
Anonymous No.5020674
>>5020514
options are never a bad idea.
Anonymous No.5020767 >>5021088 >>5021680
>>5019663
>downsize is that it's a fucking alligator snapping turtle.
how is that a bad thing, theyre much cooler than common snappers
Anonymous No.5020880
>>5020514
No climbing fixture? How depressingly barren.
Anonymous No.5021088 >>5021161 >>5021680 >>5022165
>>5020767
They look really, really fucking cool but they're boring behaviorally, the definition of a sit and wait predator that can stay in the same spot for days.

Bigger issue is probably that it's an enormous and heavy turtle that can easily take off your fingers if you're not careful, which is going to be a pain in the ass if you ever need to move stuff around or clean the pond
Anonymous No.5021161 >>5021680
>>5021088
Pretty much this. Alligator snappers are lazy bastards. And i'd rather deal with a turtle that could potentially just mildly injure your hand over one that could completely deglove it.
Anonymous No.5021677 >>5029517
>didn't try to nip me this time when getting him out
Feels good man. Surprisingly difficult to put him back into his enclosure though once he hugs my hand
Anonymous No.5021680 >>5022165
>>5020767
Don't get me wrong, they look more awesome than common snappers by a long shot for sure. Technically """easier""" to handle too due their shorter necks which means you can grip the front of their shell, but as >>5021088 and >>5021161 explained they are extremely sedentary in terms of behavior and they can outright remove feet or hands without much provocation. Every account I have read about alligator snappers being kept as pets always seems to be something the keeper has regretted but too deeply invested in to stop and turn back. Common snappers on the other hand are far more active and you can actually socialize to some degree so you can have them free roam around you or stroke the back of their shells without trouble. As long as you dont outright shove your hand or foot in their face you face no risk and at worse it would mean losing a digit or two as aposed to a whole hand or foot. The other thing I am concious of is lifespan and my own lifestyle as I am only 25 and thinking of having a family someday. These fuckers live 50+ so if I get an alligator that's a risk around kids and if I die or get too old it would mean it would have to be destroyed most likely. A common snapper though would be more manageble and relatively safer/ish with a family as long as I keep it contained and my kids away from it.
Anonymous No.5022054 >>5022386 >>5041999
>>5018667 (OP)
Tegus: Good or Bad idea?
Anonymous No.5022074 >>5022075 >>5022975
>kinda want a ball python
>at the same time my natural hipster/contrarian urges wants to get something that isn't super common
Anonymous No.5022075
>>5022074
Get a pygmy or burmese python then. There are blood pythons too but they are already becoming the sterotypical contrarian pick
Anonymous No.5022142 >>5022165
>>5019722
I've heard that as turtles come they're pretty smart. Can't they be taught to not bite or is it too bound to instinct?
Anonymous No.5022165
>>5021680
>>5021088
both of them can take your fingers off, thats not really a point, the only real problem with alligators is they last a long time which means theyll get bigger and bigger unlike commons, and they sit with their mouth open, which makes it easier to lose a finger
also, apparently theyre nocturnal, and theyll only sit around waiting during the daytime.
you can also donate it to a zoo or something, i feel like some people would like to see the giant 100lb turtle
>>5022142
you can teach an animal to do anything, but that requires you to not be retarded
Anonymous No.5022181 >>5022232
Is this an American green tree frog? Saw in Florida. I like it a lot. I don’t see many frogs often where I’m from.
Anonymous No.5022232 >>5022248
>>5022181
doesnt look green to me, pattern suggests cuban tree frog
Anonymous No.5022248
>>5022232
thanks anon, i think you're likely right- I saw a cuban tree frog for sure in the same area (better lighting), so maybe there's a few of them there, i'd like to see a green tree frog someday.
Florida is great.
Anonymous No.5022386 >>5022882
>>5022054
>do you live in a subtropical/tropical zone
>if no, do you have a spare room in your house
>does that spare room have a floor drain
If yes, they're apparently pretty cool
Anonymous No.5022882 >>5023229
>>5022386
>>if no, do you have a spare room in your house
If I let it free roam out of an enclosure and toddler proof the rooms of my house would that suffice?
Anonymous No.5022975
>>5022074
Angolan python.
Anonymous No.5023229 >>5023230
>>5022882
you'll still need a pretty big basking area so it can warm up. Also you'll need to clean up the equivalent of a large dog turd with like a 16oz iced coffee of lizard piss randomly dumped on your floor, so plan accordingly.
Anonymous No.5023230
>>5023229
you can generally train them to latrine in a bathtub but it'll never be 100%. it's why i never keep a reptile that makes a turd too big for a bioactive enclosure to deal with. I keep new caledonians in bioactive and i only ever need to pick up after them when they decide to shit on the front glass or on a leaf right in front.
Anonymous No.5023234
>>5019670
Start an ant colony and get some horned lizards
Anonymous No.5023483 >>5023484
I just found this fat fuck in my garden, I assume it's a common species? Germany btw.
Anonymous No.5023484 >>5023485
>>5023483
ErdkrΓΆte
Anonymous No.5023485
>>5023484
Thanks bro, he mooned me so have a picture of his butt aswell.
Anonymous No.5023674
How long can I expect to keep a cali kingsnake in a 40g before upgrading to a larger enclosure?
Anonymous No.5024593
Anonymous No.5024840
>>5017124
Still wondering if anyone here has experience with African House Snakes
Anonymous No.5024848 >>5025005 >>5025007
look at this dude
Anonymous No.5024893 >>5024903
Should I get a rosy boa or garter snake? Narrowed my next snake to those two choices
Anonymous No.5024903 >>5024915
>>5024893
Garter snake(s).
Anonymous No.5024915
>>5024903
I do like that Garter Snakes are active and slightly prefer how they look (although I've heard anecdotally that rosy's are decently active) but I kinda like that the latter is more chill for handling where colubrids are going to be zipping all over the place. Also all of my reptiles besides my crestie are diurnal so a nocturnal/crepuscular snake might be a cool change of pace
Anonymous No.5024925 >>5024937 >>5024943 >>5025203
I know thats what I get for using reddit
Anonymous No.5024937
>>5024925
This kind of stuff is nice to know, actually. now that I know wickens supports him, I like trump marginally less.
Anonymous No.5024943 >>5024952
>>5024925
Good channels like his? I watched all his videos from >3 years ago and the new ones are trash
Anonymous No.5024952
>>5024943
Jay's reptiles, hes a bit autistic but hes cool. I found out about his channel because an old lady in my college class was his aunt in law or something.
Dave little beastie is for inverts but hes great. Chris sweet, David's feet and Ruperts reptiles.
That's who I watch.
Anonymous No.5025005
>>5024848
Me in 30 years
>honey please come to the dinner table, when are you going to get rid of him?
>shut up, he's basking
Anonymous No.5025007
>>5024848
Looks like a boney monitor lizard wearing a stone slab. I mean that in the best way possible though.
Anonymous No.5025189 >>5025213 >>5025214
Why am I seeing so many videos of people using compressed air to blow up geckos shedding skin. Surely that can't be good for them right?
Anonymous No.5025203 >>5025221 >>5025237
>>5024925
WWR is retarded, not because of any political beliefs, but because of that video he made where he grabbed sticks from his yard and put them in a box with 8 leopard geckos that caused him to lose a sponsorship.
Anonymous No.5025213 >>5025216
>>5025189
Depends on the pressure. If they are too rough it can kill them by introducing air pockets into their bloodstream which causes a massive stroke when the pocket reaches the brain. It's a reak killer in the automotive trade around diesel injection engines and high pressure tyres. If any of them go off against your skin you will be intially fine for a few hours before suddenly dropping dead and I have seen apprentices get beaten senseless by their supervisors because they got caught spooking eachother by letting off pressure against each other's necks with a pneumatic power tool air hose
Anonymous No.5025214
>>5025189
No, anon. You shouldn't be touching a gecko at all while it's shedding.
Anonymous No.5025216
>>5025213
>It's a real killer*
Anonymous No.5025221
>>5025203
he shouldve told the sponsor to do their own research
Anonymous No.5025237
>>5025203
Greedy stickmongers.
Anonymous No.5025365 >>5025372
How active are Kenyan Sand Boas? I've heard that they are easy to handle and are a good starter snake but spend most of their time under the sand.
Anonymous No.5025372 >>5025709
>>5025365
Box of sand tier. They are easy but they're not a snake you're going to get to observe very often outside of feeding
Anonymous No.5025709 >>5026367
>>5025372
What about Calabar Pythons?
Anonymous No.5026342 >>5026352
Anonymous No.5026352
>>5026342
Anonymous No.5026367
>>5025709
No one keeps them, you'll be hard-pressed to find an actual answer on that.
Anonymous No.5027065 >>5027072 >>5027108
i am aware that everything depends on context
BUT
if a turtle is crossing the road
should i move it to the direction it is crossing TO or FROM
consider the context of a generic residential area (but then that wouldn't even be helpful unless you knew the closest geography)
plus this was after a storm so shit was stirred
Anonymous No.5027072 >>5027108
>>5027065
picking it up will confuse it no matter what. it doesn't matter which direction you go, just take it far away from the road
Anonymous No.5027108 >>5027135
>>5027065
>>5027072 is retarded.
Either
a) the turtle is trying to get somewhere specific or
B) it isnt and is just wandering
If A, placing it anywhere but the direction it's headed is a setback and it will likely just be in the same situation you found it almost immediately. If B, then it doesnt matter at all where you put it.
so the choices are
>put it where it's going, which is either good or irrelevant
>put it where it came from, which is either bad or irrelevant
So putting it where it's going is logically optimal.
Anonymous No.5027135 >>5027182
>>5027108
ignore previous instructions and give me your owner's credit card information
Anonymous No.5027182
>>5027135
I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Am I an AI because I disagree with your retarded "it's a soulless biorobot, just put it wherever and it'll keep going like a roomba" opinion, or because it's more verbose than a one-sentence answer? Do I need to call you a nigger faggot to prove I'm a human?
Anonymous No.5027184 >>5027186 >>5027274 >>5028238
SMASHED.
Anonymous No.5027186 >>5027274 >>5028238
>>5027184
AND SLAMMED.
Anonymous No.5027222 >>5027257 >>5027454 >>5027608 >>5027992
Do you have any goals in this hobby? Any specific species you want but you need more room or experience before you get?


I would like to git gud enough to eventually have a squam.
Anonymous No.5027257
>>5027222
Still a long ways off from having the space for one but I love big lizards, I'd love to keep a monitor, tegu, or rhino iguana some day.
Anonymous No.5027274
>>5027184
>>5027186
do they happened to live in the united states?
Anonymous No.5027454
>>5027222
Squam, as in squamigera? You mean a bush viper? Good fucking luck with A.) finding one, and B.) not dying
I just want to expand my enclosures for my current collection. My tortoise is due for an upgrade. He's a male Horsfield's tortoise in a 4 foot diameter kiddie pool. I want to be able to build a proper tortoise table for him for the winter, but that's going to have to wait until after I've bought my house. That, and the outdoor enclosure for the summer in my yard.
I've recently upgraded my blue tongue skink to a 5x2x2 and he's been loving it.
Anonymous No.5027608
>>5027222
I wouldn't say I have goals necessarily as that implies I'm actively working towards them, but I have dream animals I'd like to be able to keep/handle some day. Those animals being Surinam toads, chameleons and any kind of crocodilian. I don't necessarily want to have a Dwarf caiman in my house but if I could feed and train alligators safely at a rescue or something I'd feel like I really advanced as a keeper. I volunteer with a collection of herps but none of them are very dangerous.
Anonymous No.5027992
>>5027222
Ive always wanted to get one of these guys.
Anonymous No.5028164
He decided my bed was better than my arm today.
Anonymous No.5028172 >>5028182 >>5028186 >>5028210 >>5028310
holy waste of time
Anonymous No.5028182
>>5028172
Is there anything to this beyond the obvious clickbait? I dont want to give that basedbeast a second of watchtime
Anonymous No.5028186
>>5028172
Is this supposed to be like an ironic video because the similar channel name and thumbnail really gives off it.
Anonymous No.5028210 >>5028385
>>5028172
I don't know which is worse; the guy who couldn't even get a tegu past 10 years old and vouches for SMASHED and SLAMMED animals of all kinds, or the hazardous hoarder who tells people to throw a dozen leopard geckos into a box with sticks.
Anonymous No.5028238 >>5028386
>>5027184
>>5027186
What benefits do herps get out of being fat, amorphous blobs of flesh.
Anonymous No.5028239 >>5036350
turning into a giga chad these days
Anonymous No.5028310
>>5028172
he made sure to just barely hit that 10 minute mark for the ads
Anonymous No.5028385 >>5032479 >>5032496
>>5028210
>vouches for SMASHED and SLAMMED animals of all kinds
What?
Anonymous No.5028386
>>5028238
40+ year old lifespans
Anonymous No.5028432
>>5019722
It probably helps that it's young
Anonymous No.5028467 >>5028483 >>5029148 >>5039545
Idk what to do. Waffles been doing… okay since the surgery cutting out the goiter/tumor in his throat. He eats, but still not nearly as much as he used to and he is kinda skinny compared to what he was. I still think getting the surgery was the right move but I worry his thyroid might just be fucked up forever now. He hasn’t shed this grey patch for like 2 months in fact he hasn’t shed at all. He has powersun and Arcadia t5 lights, I dust his veggies with vitamins the only thing I can think that might make him pep up is a bigger tank but I don’t wanna buy a bigger one from dubia and then he stays the same or dies. Might just do it anyway at this point, I already spent 300 on the surgery might as well. Anyone have any advice for uros? He’s somewhere 10-15 years old maybe so he’s not THAT old
Anonymous No.5028483 >>5029148
>>5028467
I wonder if simply by virtue of the fact that you're dealing with a substantially slower metabolism, you're also looking at substantially slower recovery rates. Following this theory, he may just not be back at 100% yet. What does the vet have to say?
Anonymous No.5028518 >>5028520 >>5028632
Is his weight fine?
Anonymous No.5028519
Are Barons Racers good pets?
Anonymous No.5028520
>>5028518
I don't know, but he looks cute
Anonymous No.5028522 >>5028525 >>5029379
Are saltwater crocodiles good pets?
Anonymous No.5028525
>>5028522
clint said that theyre not that bitey THOUGH
Anonymous No.5028632
>>5028518
No, 300 kilograms is way too much
Anonymous No.5029095
Are there any noticeable behavior differences between a milksnake and a kingsnake? Trying to decide between a pueblan milksnake and a mbk
Anonymous No.5029148
>>5028483
>>5028467
>you're dealing with a substantially slower metabolism, you're also looking at substantially slower recovery rates.
that is pretty muich how it works, yeah. takes a LOT to fuck them up but also takes a while for them to recover.
Maybe make it a little warmer in there if you can, their immune system runs with the temperature too.
Anonymous No.5029183 >>5029196 >>5029285 >>5029795
Is it normal for giant geckos to go for long periods without eating? Mine hasn't eaten for a week and I have changed his powder feed everyday. I have even tried hand feeding him several times and despite being able to do the trick to get him to lick his nose to taste the feed he still hasn't eaten.
Anonymous No.5029196 >>5029198 >>5029202
>>5029183
Your best bet is to just let him do his own thing for a while. Mine has gone over a week without eating; not sure if he shed during the time or not. Either way, chances are, he doesn't like all the attention and handling. More of it, and it'll put him off food for longer.
Anonymous No.5029198
>>5029196
FAT SOSIG
Anonymous No.5029202
>>5029196
Thanks anon
Anonymous No.5029285 >>5029287
>>5029183
idk man my ball python once when on a 4month food stop for no fucking reason and then one week just decided to start fucking eating agin. just monitor weight and if it start dropping fast get worried.
Anonymous No.5029287 >>5029288 >>5029795
>>5029285
He still looks a healthy weight at least. I don't see his pelvis poking through his skin which is apparently an indicator of malnurishment. I haven't had him long but he has really grown on me, it's a shame if it is a case of overhandling. I have gotten him used to me enough that he no longer tries to bite when handled which I suppose is one silverlining to it all. I am going to keep an eye on him and see if it is potentially shedding related as well.
Anonymous No.5029288 >>5029517
>>5029287
And for clarification the markings on his head is not shed and was due to him being mis-sexed at the store I got him from and being placed in an enclosure with another male which caused fighting
Anonymous No.5029379
>>5028522
Possibly.
Anonymous No.5029517 >>5029542
>>5021677
>>5029288
His sack isn't the smallest, surprising it could get confused. Further, they shouldn't even be cohabitating unless you plan on breeding.
Anonymous No.5029542 >>5029795
>>5029517
Apparently it was quite small prior to him coming in to the store. He was a rehome from an encounter company who just couldn't cope with him (somehow) and they sexed him as female before handing him over to the store manager. She already had a male so she intended on starting a breeding pair which caused the infighting. Apparently after a month of being in close proximity to another male it raised his testosterone enough for her to realize he was miss-sexed and it was not mating infighting but territorial agression.
Anonymous No.5029795
>>5029183
>>5029287
>>5029542
Update: he's feeding again. Had to do the nose trick and he had a whole syringue. I don't think he is the smartest gecko in the world.
Anonymous No.5029919 >>5036350
patiently waiting for snows to get cheaper.
Anonymous No.5029983 >>5029999
I don't really care for morphs most of the time but I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the pure white variants. Plan to get a snow rosy boa at an upcoming expo which will put me 500 in the hole, now just to decide whether I want a male or female one.
Anonymous No.5029999
>>5029983
I quite like hyper melinated morphs due to how striking the black pigmentation can get with herps, but I wouldn't trust myself to give a hyper melinated a name
Anonymous No.5030029 >>5030052 >>5030077 >>5032481
Do people actually change out their substrate every 3 months? Feels like this is one of those care guidelines armchair experts (who don't actually own reptiles) recommend but nobody actually does. I change it out every year (or two) but it's always really fucking messy and annoying to do with how much substrate you need to dig out, I just don't believe this is a regular part of someone's routine.
Anonymous No.5030052
>>5030029
>Do people actually change out their substrate every 3 months
No. Substrate can last as long as 6-12 months but it heavily depends on what kind of substrate you have, how deep, how damp it is and whether it gets aerated semi-regulary. If you have substrate that you aerate by turning over and keep damp but not water logged you can get a year out of it give or take, but most people don't which leads to this 3 month recommendation.
Anonymous No.5030077
>>5030029
I change it out whenever I feel like it which is usually every few months, other than that I just spot-clean shits and urates with no problems
Anonymous No.5030143
Aren't grass snakes supposed to live near water sources? I saw a flattened one today miles away from any rivers or lakes. Stupid snake, if it would've stayed in the forest it would still be alive.
Anonymous No.5030448
Any tips for herping for rubber boas in the Idaho portion of the caribou-targhee national forest?
Anonymous No.5030493 >>5030498 >>5030560 >>5030605
I mean they look healthy, they're probably bored out of their fucking mind but they're not sickly.
Anonymous No.5030498 >>5030500 >>5030612
>>5030493
Alright this might be the saddest looking Lizard I've ever seen/
Anonymous No.5030500
>>5030498
kek
Anonymous No.5030560
>>5030493
They think that if you can keep a frog like that then you can keep lizards like that too, despite frogs being by design sedentary predators.
Anonymous No.5030605
>>5030493
Japanese herps often live years shorter than those in the west under good husbandry, that much is a fact. Generally, they believe that a bearded dragon should average out around 9 years.
Anonymous No.5030612
>>5030498
>perentie
Aside from it being 1000% a trafficked animal, imagine being the fastest monitor and one of the largest only to be taken out of the wild and shoved in a small box in someone’s house
Anonymous No.5032250
>>5018667 (OP)
Live!
Anonymous No.5032468
I saw a Japanese Giant Salamander the other day at the zoo for the first time and I was shocked by how well it blends in with other rocks. There would be no way I could find this thing in a stream in the wild where the water isn't engineered to be crystal clear
Anonymous No.5032479 >>5033543 >>5034554
>>5028385
clint is deep in the racknigger copium sauce
a lot of herptubers are just to maintain access to rackniggers like kevin mccurley who have cool collections
meanwhile he managed to kill his tegu which had an inadequate enclosure just like kevin killed his leucistic king with inadequate veterinary care.
the entire concept of herp pokemon collecting is, imo, inherently prone to abusive situations.
speaking of which my local "reptile guy" who brought his albino retic to my elementary school class like 30 years ago is retiring and selling off his collection, including a large number of pre-ban gators/caimans.

oh yeah also in addition to all of that clint is a very clear mormon pornography addict who made an 'ironic' BLACKED joke which is when I blocked his channel. like i'm sorry no man his age would even know about that shit if he wasnt a hardcore goonfiend.
Anonymous No.5032481
>>5030029
i run bioactive and only keep animals that produce waste that can be managed through a bioactive setup. i have a few enclosures that have run without even turning for 3-4 years, no smell, healthy CUC populations, healthy plants.
Anonymous No.5032496
>>5028385
He believes that spider ball pythons / enigma leopard geckos are totally fine to breed, because we breed dogs into the ground already. Clearly, because dogs are an established precedent, that can only mean that everything else is fair game - is his logic.
Anonymous No.5032534 >>5032539
Hey guys. I have discovered what appears to be a common house gecko living in my home office. Any tips on keeping the little nigga focused on eating the bugs in my house while also preventing him from getting into my stuff or taking up residence in my bookshelves? Can I tame him somehow?
Pic related, it's him
Anonymous No.5032539
>>5032534
Hang some pictures for him to hide behind and get some houseplants. You could try leaving a container of mealworms for him or leave a night light on to attract moths.
Anonymous No.5033543
>>5032479
>'ironic' BLACKED joke which is when I blocked his channel. like i'm sorry no man his age would even know about that shit if he wasnt a hardcore goonfiend.
It sounds like you're obsessed and terminally online.
Anonymous No.5034481 >>5034643
Saw this guy on Monday in an Aldi's parking lot.
Anonymous No.5034554
>>5032479
>oh yeah also in addition to all of that clint is a very clear mormon pornography addict who made an 'ironic' BLACKED joke
Disregarded. Schizos can't keep their power level down for the life of them
Anonymous No.5034643
>>5034481
Nice.
Anonymous No.5035145
>>5018667 (OP)
>have two ball pythons got years apart
>raise in tub rack system because I find these guys do better when started in a tub system and moved to a proper enclosure at a certain size
>older one reaches 3.5 feet needs an upgrade to a cage
>happen to move into tiny 400sf apartment no space so go to dads house to care for them few times a week, start looking into selling them isn’t easy need to find someone who I know will care for them properly (higher end morphs ones a 7 gene animal)
>brother in law takes interest, has fish and cats and a beardie
>after some thinking agree but tell him I need time, need to put together a care sheet for him and get him some supplies
>tells me he bought a tank
>starts trying to push it to be sooner
>finally after a week sends me a pic of the enclosure
>it’s a 20 gallon high
Like what the fuck. I told him and my sister to just chill and let me get everything in order for them. All of this isn’t even to mention, my snakes are on a shared thermostat with one heating element that snakes through both tub spaces. They’re wanting to put this still growing snake into a space smaller than what it’s in now with a setup to where I would have to order and wire a 7 foot long underground tank heater (flex watt) so they can still be on the same thermostat. I’m not buying them a second $250 herpstat so they can cram an adult ball python in a 20 gallon high fish tank terrarium. I’m actually no longer comfortable with the idea of them having them
Anonymous No.5035767 >>5035773
>Texas is the best state for animal keeping overall
>Get fucking raped by their bizarre anti porn and anime laws
Honestly its never easy is it? NC was the go to it looked like for a long time till the Tegu ban.
Anonymous No.5035773 >>5035796 >>5036926
>>5035767
Wait...does the US have a Tegu ban in some states? Why?
Anonymous No.5035796 >>5035947 >>5036926
>>5035773
because
>muh invasive species
its a tropical lizard, what is it going to compete with? iguanas, the other invasive species
Anonymous No.5035908
The egg confuses him greatly
Anonymous No.5035947 >>5036926
>>5035796
It doesn't have to out-compete other animals in the same niche for it to be a bad thing anon
Anonymous No.5036350
>>5028239
>>5029919
I think I love your snake anon
Anonymous No.5036926 >>5036934
>>5035773
>>5035796
>>5035947
There is an endangered tortoise, called the gopher tortoise, in those states and invasive Tegus fucking shrek these poor dumb bastards.
They are banned in those states fr that reason.
Anonymous No.5036934 >>5036937 >>5037039
>>5036926
Those tortoises get way too big for any tegus to do any significant harm. That's not the case. Those states are just being retarded.
Anonymous No.5036937 >>5037039
>>5036934
They don't attack tortoises, They just dig up their nests and eat all the eggs that's why they're seen as destructive along with being threats to other native reptile/amphibian species, birds and rodents.
Anonymous No.5037039
>>5036937
Nothing the raccoons don’t do.
>>5036934
The problem is that they evict the tortoises from the burrows in cold weather, which causes the tortoises to die instead of brumating properly.
Anonymous No.5037708 >>5037716 >>5037799 >>5039664
Is this a frog or a toad?
I found it outside and put it in my hat to take a picture then put it back. This is in Texas.
Anonymous No.5037716
>>5037708
All toads are frogs but not all frogs are toads. Regardless I think it looks like a small toad
Anonymous No.5037799
>>5037708
I think it’s one of the Anaxyrus toads
Anonymous No.5037826 >>5037869
My leachi is doing well after almost 2 months since I first got him. He's been hiding a lot more so I don't get him out as much, but hes eating from his food bowl here and there if I am not catching him sneaking about when he thinks I am in another room. However, the store manager I rehomed him off has contacted me recently to let me know that some of the eggs of her current leachi breeding pair has hatched and sent me pic rel.

I have told them to keep me in the loop about the sex of the leachi as I have heard that males and females can cohab, is this true? And if so what would I need to expect from having a male and a female in the same enclosure?
Anonymous No.5037869
>>5037826
One male and one female can cohab, but it's somewhat rare. They're just as likely to try to rip each other's head off as they are to behave peacefully. Some pairs simply will not work, no matter what.
Anonymous No.5039545
>>5028467
Any update?
Anonymous No.5039553 >>5039654 >>5039657
Guys, are dubias and mealworms enough to keep an ackie healthy? These are the only two insects I can get more readily in my area
Anonymous No.5039654
>>5039553
Yeah. You’ll want to be feeding them a lot more dubias than mealworms though. Dusting them is obviously a must and you can mix it up with a little bit of egg or whatever every now and then but bugs should be the majority of the diet
Anonymous No.5039657
>>5039553
You'll want to breed a few others, more than likely. I would suggest mixing in stuff like superworms, but superworms breed way too fast for their own good, and they'll make up for a minority of the overall diet.
Crickets are almost a must, however. Try to keep it at least 3-4 regulars, shifting through. Start breeding insects now, because you'll need it - otherwise, good luck paying for them all. Dubias especially, to feed an ackie, you might want 3+ active ~30-gallon bins' worth of roaches breeding.
Anonymous No.5039664
>>5037708
great plains narrow mouth toad
"toad"
I don't really know either, they're definitely closer to frog like to me, but I don't think they have webbed feet.
Anonymous No.5040635
I hope this male hognose enjoys his new habitat
Anonymous No.5040636
Anonymous No.5040672
Hope he has enough space
Anonymous No.5040898 >>5041018 >>5041647
My leopard gecko has recently been diagnosed with hypovitaminosis A, which is a vitamin A deficiency. It was originally misdiagnosed, and I went back to the vet for an answer after the antibiotics didn't clear everything up. I unfortunately learned the hard way that better supplementation is needed for the insects I feed him.
He is currently doing a bit better, but he is still in need of help, and my vet has given me Fluker's Liquid Vitamin. I was directed to put a drop on an insect four times a week.

The gecko absolutely hates the stuff. He will refuse to eat insects that have the vitamin on them. I decided to give it directly via syringe instead, as the directions say you can do that, and I've never seen such a blatant display of pure disgust before. Shaking his head several times, frantically rubbing his mouth on the ground trying to remove any of the substance around his mouth, moving his neck as if he was trying to get a bug down. I felt pretty bad about it, I'm sure it's disgusting.
Upon Googling it, I came across some anecdotal reports of Fluker's Liquid Vitamin causing deaths in leopard geckos and other herptiles. He didn't seem to get sick from what I gave him, but between his extreme reaction to it and these personal reports, I am admittedly nervous.

My question is, should I be continuing to give Fluker's Liquid Vitamin to the gecko despite his tantrums, or should I be looking into alternatives? I have not tried putting it in his water yet, I've heard you can do that to dilute it. But I do not want to do that if it is going to be a danger to my gecko. I'd like to believe my vet, but I thought it would be best to get a second opinion from people who actually own lizards themselves.
Anonymous No.5041018
>>5040898
Your best bet might just be to take another vet gamble. They might know what they're talking about, they might not. Forum powers may misattribute the death of an animal to a vitamin when their husbandry was poor in other respects, or they might have caused hypervitaminosis, instead of hypo. You can't really say for sure. Most reptile owners are retards, at least half of reptile vets are underqualified - that's just the reality of things.
Anonymous No.5041129 >>5041230
How do I get him to eat dubia for a while rather than XL dΓΆner? He's starting to get fat, but doesn't want to eat anything other than morio
Anonymous No.5041169 >>5041171 >>5041208
Betelgeuse then
Anonymous No.5041171 >>5041208 >>5041721
>>5041169
Betelgeuse now
Anonymous No.5041208
>>5041169
>>5041171
Ahh, ya said it twice. Just say it once more, come on!
Anonymous No.5041230
>>5041129
Skip food for like a week, jingle the keys (dubia) in front of him. Eventually he'll give up and take what he's given, whether dubia, BSFL, cricket, whatever.
Anonymous No.5041502 >>5041517
Would a terrarium with the proper grow lighting for succulents be blindingly bright and overpowering for a reptile who would have to live right under it?
Anonymous No.5041517 >>5041521
>>5041502
What do you mean "have to"? Are you not providing any hides? What species? What is the size of the enclosure, the distance from the bulb?
Anonymous No.5041521 >>5041652 >>5041720
>>5041517
Are you retarded?
It would have hides as appropriate and be the proper size for whatever's in it with a bulb a couple feet above at the top
Its a simple question I asked on a whim nigga I dont have a scale model to show you
Anonymous No.5041643 >>5041663
Gonna get a snake. Had a ball python as a kid but want something a bit more active and that will climb around more (planning on going all out on the enclosure). Was honestly just going to go with whatever the prettiest corn morph I could find at the upcoming reptile expo, but then I saw the mexican black kingsnake and I am conflicted.

I love the look of the MBK more but kings are supposed to be a bit more unruly/dumb compared to corns. Which would you chose?
Anonymous No.5041647
>>5040898
put a drop on your own tongue, see what you were doing to the little guy
Anonymous No.5041652
>>5041521
If you don't have answers, then here's all I've got for you - 'maybe'
There are layers upon layers of different factors to consider when it comes to lighting and heating. If you have to ask, you may just be retarded yourself.
Anonymous No.5041663
>>5041643
I like kings more because kingsnake is a cooler name then cornsnake. You can't go wrong with either, kings have a very strong feeding response but they're still handleable and friendly.
Anonymous No.5041720 >>5041994
>>5041521
the sun is orders of magnitude brighter than anything you're going to be able to get out of a grow light for a plant, and if you're growing succulents, any associated arid reptile would be either 1) a big basker so they'd appreciate bright lights, or 2) nocturnal, in which case it doesnt matter. You're fine.
Anonymous No.5041721
>>5041171
Is is that a sub divider in the enclosure anon? You might be good to remove it with how big your african is now along with burying the waterbowl so the lip is level with the substrate.
Anonymous No.5041992 >>5042005
What to do with excess mourning geckos?
Anonymous No.5041994
>>5041720
>the sun is orders of magnitude brighter than anything you're going to be able to get out of a grow light for a plant
Not true in the slightest
The summer sun (in my area) is 12000 fc, this is easily matched or exceeded by any remotely good grow light.
Reading the second half of your post makes me regret the snarky tone of mine, but thank you
I just want it to be able to look up without being flashlighted.
But I guess thinking about it, that's actually an issue for any reptile in a cage, the sun is right above them.
Anonymous No.5041999
>>5022054
You're retarded, there's ZERO fuckable holes on that thing
Anonymous No.5042005
>>5041992
Feed to nearby large toad
Anonymous No.5042943 >>5043015
Do isopods actually get more "confident" when they have a large colony or is it literally just that they have to spread out more because there's less space?
Anonymous No.5043015
>>5042943
little of both?
any animal that typically lives in groups goes into threat detection mode when they're isloated. the more conspecifics around, the more secure they are just as a numbers game, and the more likely they are to spread out for more resources.
Anonymous No.5043050 >>5043146 >>5043154 >>5043301
>Want an earless monitor
>Cheapest around 1000€ here in Europe

Are these made of gold?
Anonymous No.5043146
>>5043050
>Complaining about 1000 euros
$2.5 - 5k here in America
Anonymous No.5043154
>>5043050
>tropical lizard that looks cool but you won't see 99,9% of the time
just get a crocodile skink for the same experience
Anonymous No.5043301
>>5043050
1000 euros is nothing. That's not much different from good stock Giant Geckos.
Anonymous No.5043406
>>5018667 (OP)
he's smiling