Thread 22913943

Which branch of Christianity is correct?

The one that doesn't worship a jew

Lutheranism
>No stupid Mary or saint prayer
>No retarded Calvinism
>Filioque is real
>No divorce stuff like the Anglicans
>The Eucharist IS the body and blood of Christ (but how, we don't know, but it isn't transubstantiation)
>Founded by a german monk who wanted that virgin nun pussy
>Wrote an excellent book about kikes
Finally, if a 'Lutheran' church doesn't subscribe to the Augsburg Confession, they're heathen non-denominationals.

>>22913945
Lutherans also aren't retarded dispensationalists as far as I'm aware.

>>22913943 (OP)
Messianic Judaism

>which jew cult based on stories of talking snakes is true?
Kek

Read the 7 letters to the 7 Chruches in the book of Revelation not just as 7 letters to 7 churches but also as 1 letter written to 1 church detailing 7 eras of its existence and evolution. then you'll start to get it.

>>22913946
Also true.
A pastor put this out last week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zO8Y27K_qM

>>22913945
Lutherans are right behind episcopals in being the most homosexual church.

The correct one is the original one, which existed before both papist hubris and protestant hedonism.

>>22913947
Damn thats actually a good answer.

extreme lutheranism like conservative laestadians. they are why finnish birth rate is still over 1. they dont drink, do drugs, they ban abortion & contraception, they dont watch TV but its not jonestown type cult either they have big employment rate and run succesful businesses in construction and other fields

they have suviseurat event with like 100 000 attenders, they threw piss and ice cream on some lbgtq activists who tried to come there to spread their kike ideology

>>22913951
>American flag
>Never spoken to a single member of the Wisconsin or Missouri synod
Try harder orthodox larper.
We hate fags.

>>22913943 (OP)
Non-denomination

>>22913955
That's just extra syllables for 'Baptist'.

All of them

>>22913943 (OP)
Quakers are generally good people that seem to be following the spirit of christ's teachings without getting caught up in arguments of ruleslawyering the game of tag that gets you into heaven.

>>22913943 (OP)
I'm an atheist and I think they're all nonsense, but my favourite is presbyterianism.

>>22913943 (OP)

Catholicism is the original form of Christianity, so probably that.

>>22913960
Delusional

>>22913943 (OP)
Southern baptists baby

>>22913952
No its not. Messianic Judaism is a purely fabricated religion designed to allow Orthodox Jews, which itself was a religion founded in 1818, to continue being Orthodox Jews without explicitly denying Jesus. Its younger than most Protestant faiths and has zero actual basis for its beliefs.

>>22913954
Whatever you say, trannylover.

>>22913960
>the original form of Christianity
Thats antioch, bottom left on the chart. 'Catholics' are roman papists

>>22913943 (OP)
Church of England. If His Majesty the lords representative on earth cannot divorce his Spanish wife because of her inability to produce a healthy son that will survive infancy then it must be a sign from god that he must have a new wife. Also no one likes foreign cunts telling us what to do.

>>22913943 (OP)
Arianism

>>22913943 (OP)
Anglo-Catholics who broke off the rest of the Anglican Communion well before it started to fag up, obviously
https://anglicancatholic.org/

>married male clergy
>apostolic succession
>sacraments with real presence
>holy scripture and tradition with scripture as the final rule of faith
>no gay marriage

>>22913963
Seethe more fag, you're wrong and no amount of cope can change that.

>>22913950
Doesn't sell the true schizo of Dispensaitonalists enough. They truly, unironically believe Israels forming in 1948 to be a prophesied biblical event.

>>22913943 (OP)
bible believing christians
not some denomination

>>22913943 (OP)
all fake and gay jewish slop, just like this forced christkike revival shills like you are pushing. total yahweh death

>>22913962
Nigger church

>>22913965
It's disheartening how many people just blindly buy into Rome's narrative on the matter.
He didn't want a divorce. He wanted an annulment because he was forced to marry on impermissible grounds that he believed were responsible for Catherine's inability to produce a son (namely, she was his brother's wife, which was forbidden by Lev. 20:21).
The reason he couldn't get the annulment recognized was because Catherine's relative was occupying Rome at that particular moment. But Henry did not believe he was in a valid marriage in the first place.

>>22913951
>>22913963
>orthodox larping as the biggest gatekeeper toward salvation in Jesus Christ

Matthew 23
13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.[d] 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell[e] as yourselves.

>>22913943 (OP)
Pentecostal

>>22913943 (OP)
The truth

>>22913951

It becomes apperent when one looks at the life of the most devout.

Where is your saint Paisios protestants?

>>22913968
No seething here m8. I'm not the one with lesbian bishops in my church. Now THAT must need some cope.

>>22913978
>I'm not the one with lesbian bishops in my church.
And neither am I.

>>22913949
I dunno, revelation 3.16 sounds awfully like the Church of England.

>>22913977
Paisios' of any denomination live all over the world, those who God refines in a furnace. you dont need to live in a monastery and need other to proclaim your holiness, you dreg through satans kingdom and are refined on the way without drawing any attention to you.
the protestant Paisios could be the clerk at the last gas station you visited.
true believers are hidden in God with Jesus Christ.
Colossians 3:3

>>22913981
This is correct.
Just because they're not put up on ikons or have endless prayers chanted in their names doesn't mean they're not there.

>>22913945
What a fag

>>22913943 (OP)

None of them.

>Which branch of Christianity is correct?

>>22913984
this

OP, now show the roots of that cursed crap

>>22913947
That’s just Orthodox Judaism with Jesus shoehorned in.

>>22913944
So none of them?

The strongest ONE.

https://youtu.be/I0bqEnXxBoY?si=Zgr2RJ-KV9A4Vmqa

>>22913963
Fun fact: the guy who founded Jews For Jesus HATED Messianic Judaism because they were judaizing gentiles rather than converting Jews.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yFQm1Df--0k

Mormons. Compare their state to your state. Mormins won

>>22913943 (OP)
Any that believe the gospel because that’s the only qualifier.
The focus isn’t on the denomination that’s a satanic red herring.
It’s whether or not you simply believe the gospel and no longer seek to be justified by the law (which is literally what religion is. If Paul considers himself dead to the law, he’s disowning his priesthood and resting in what Jesus did.)
The gospel condemns religion which completely sideswipes most people’s understanding of what God is asking for when you look at the Bible. The overall reoccurring theme of the book throughout is faith and it doesn’t change. People will argue semantics on dispensationalism and say that it changes things and I’m flat out telling you that if God has foreknowledge, he intended the vehicle of salvation for everyone to be faith from the very beginning irrespective of time. Due to his impartiality and no showing of favoritism. To establish things for the sake of his purposes not just “because”.

If I simply believe that Jesus paid for my sins by shedding his own blood willfully, dying on the cross, was buried and came back from the dead on the third day according to what is prophecy in the OT. It’s done, and I know I’m going to heaven not because of something I did, but because of what God himself did in the form of man on my behalf. Lest I be able to boast.
This is why God does it through grace, it’s antithetical to pride and disallows Satan to subvert the message with his lies and subtlety.
Religion tries to seduce you into idolizing yourself by relying on law following, it’s why it turns people into militant apostates that gatekeep the gospel from people or turns them into outright atheists that attack anyone that mentions God because they thought the law following was what God was asking for when you’d literally have to be God in order to actually do all of it.

>>22913943 (OP)
Episcopal, because my beloved Poe was baptized in it

>>22913943 (OP)
that chart is wrong. catholicism is the original

>>22913943 (OP)
None. They all have been infiltrated by jews. You do not need a branch to worship God.

>>22913943 (OP)
Ru ortho is about serving king and elite.

I think real Christianity is about Living good, respecting people, equal rights etc. such thing happens only in west.

>>22913961
the great schism was when orthodoxy split from catholicism. luther "protested" against the catholic church. catholicism is the original

>>22913996
>luther "protested" against the catholic church.

Just as an interesting trivia tidbit, that's actually not quite where the name comes from.

>In 1526, a meeting of the Reichstag (in practice, a form of German imperial parliament) issued the Recess of 27 August, stating that each individual government within the empire could decide which religion they wished to follow. It would have been a triumph of religious freedom, had it lasted. However, a new Reichstag which met in 1529 was not so amenable to the Lutherans, and the Emperor canceled the Recess. In response, the followers of the new church issued the Protest, which protested against the cancellation on April 19th.

>Despite differences in their theology, Southern German cities aligned with Swiss reformer Zwingli joined other German powers following Luther to sign on to the Protest as one. They thus became known as Protestants, those who protested.

https://www.thoughtco.com/origin-of-the-word-protestant-1221778

>>22913996
Even if
>>22913951
Is an uninformed prick, Orthodox have a much stronger claim to being the original that the papists split from.
Luther's entire stack of 95 theses are very similar to the ~1000 AD greievances levied against Rome.

>>22913943 (OP)
Wheres the gnostic one faggot

>>22913945
I would probably be a Lutherin if the current church governance wasn't corrupt and bringing in a bunch of gay and tranny shit.

>>22913943 (OP)
"Correct" in regards to what? if you mean the original is Roman Catholicism, if you want to be even more strict, Messianic Nazarene Judaism, from this later you have the Orthodox that is a separation because some legal matters, and then you have protestants and their 10000 sects that are straight up fanfics but with the main focus on Jews as the chosen people of God and Jesus as some kind of cereal mascot.

tldr, stop larping as jews if you are european, american (indios not the colons from England and Netherland), or whatever just stop, neither of these are the religion of your race, and if you still insist just go full Gnosticism and take Jesus as some light bringer instead of a sin redentor and the jewish God as the Demiurge

>>22913945
ELCA ordains women and gays.

>>22913999
burned at the stake

>>22914000
Wisconsin Synod (or Missouri Synod), my man.
Find one with a pipe organ and you'll be set.

>>22914002
ELCA isn't Lutheran, they don't subscribe to the Augsburg confession or even the Nicene Creed last I checked.

>>22913996
>orthodoxy split from catholicism. luther "protested" against the catholic church
almost as if there is something fundamentally wrong with catholicism...

>>22914003
Were the only christians that dont worship the jews nor see other races as human beings.

>>22913943 (OP)
Catholicism prior to the 15th century, it's all gay now. Follow your conscience, not a Jew, or any idol.
>>22913947
Depends on "Christian" or Messiah in question. Solomonic, yes, luciferian, no.
>>22913948
Whichever one advocated for tribal racewar.

>>22913999
>>22914007
gnosticism is not christian

>>22913999
Over with the mormons and jehovas witnesses.

>>22913987
correct. Imagine unironically believing in the schizophrenic ramblings of literal subhuman desert savages

>>22914006
It was too strong. People are afraid of fighting a GOD.

>>22913943 (OP)
Jesus was a pedophile schizo with a God complex.
>Every one of Jesus’ apostles besides Peter was underage (neaniskos is the Greek word used)
>When a woman questions why he hangs out with kids he says “don’t scandalize me”
>Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men”
>Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked
>Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20)
>Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52)
>When the cops show up he says “why do you come for me with swords and clubs like I’m some kind of leistes”
>The word leistes, which gets translated as “thief” is actually “pirate” and was used in contemporary texts (many examples such as Lucian’s Alexander) to refer to sex traffickers
>Sex trafficking was a big problem in the Mediterranean and one of the big things the Romans did was crack down on the pedo pirates. Julius Caesar himself was kidnapped by them as a kid and afterwards had them all crucified
>Jesus Christ was in fact crucified between two other leistes
There's a reason Jesus's "Most Beloved Disciple" is always depicted as a beardless boy whereas the rest of his followers had beards. Dude liked em young.

>>22913998
Right, it's amazing how "correct and original" one can be when one's institution was the official Imperial church at a time, complete with the authority to stamp out all other expressions as "heretical."
It doesn't mean your doctrine was divinely protected. It just means you successfully suppressed open expression of all other doctrine or opinion.
Which isn't to say that I personally think the gospel itself was suppressed. It's there in Catholicism and Orthodoxy. But there's a bunch of other stuff that got added on along with it that was protected because, again, it was part of the teachings of the "official Imperial Church."

>>22913943 (OP)
Christianity is correct, and Orthodox Christianity is the fullest version of it.

>>22914009
what is it then??

>>22914014
Joke. You rebel against the Church because you want to fuck and kill people freely.

>>22914016
satanism
>you have to escape the reincarnation cycle and become god yourself
>the god of the OT is evil and the snake was the good guy
same lie as in the garden, you shall be like god, but without God

>>22914016
>>22914018
German bro is on the money.

>>22914017
>meme flag
opinion disregarded.

>>22914020
You dare to disregard the Almighty God flag?

>>22913943 (OP)
If you lived by the teachings of christ you'd live in some kind of anarcho-communal Anabaptist/Quaker set up.

>>22914021
I dare to disregard the meme flag along with its meme flag poster, yeah

>>22914019
well, I was a gnosic myself before God set me free of that garbage, so I know what its about.
its one of satans best tools, especially for new converts of christianity.

Vedanta Hinduism, obviously

>>22914023
You are a joke.

>>22913943 (OP)
Kikes are wrong.

>>22914024
Same bro! I realized that I was getting a whole lot more out of reading the New Testament than I ever did from reading the Divine Pymander, the Chymical Wedding, the Emerald Tablets, the Gnostic gospels, etc. etc.

>>22914027
>You are a joke.

>But the fruit of the Spirit is, charity, joy, peace, patience, benignity, goodness, longanimity,
>Mildness, faith, modesty, continency, chastity. Against such there is no law.
>Galatians 5:22-23
Ah, there's that fruit of the Catholic Faith.
Doesn't seem like the fruit that Scripture promised.

>>22914024
Youre bein fooled by the demiurge rn dumbass holy shit.

>>22914031
how do you know you aren't the one being fooled by satan??

>>22913943 (OP)
I know the right doctrine because God told me directly but I'm not telling you nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh you're not going to heaven!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>22914031
see, you give the "demiurge" power where there is none. who else profits from this but satan?
repent and turn toward Jesus Christ your salvation, all authority in heaven and earth has been given to him.

>>22913943 (OP)
This one.

>>22913996
> orthodoxy split from catholicism
Not really.. Catholicism split from the Orthodox, and ultimately others, by excommunicating the Patriarch of Constantinople.
The "Pope" had been demanding that the Eastern Romans come help him conquer Italy, and arguing so much with the Patriarch over the intricacies of bread that he had threatened excommunication. So, the Patriarch, not really wanting to hear out the Papal legate, just had them wait around for months without a hearing. Meanwhile, "Pope" dies somewhere out on his campaign of carnage, and not knowing this, the irritated Papal diplomat outright excommunicates the Patriarch for being forced to wait.
Rome essentially ejected itself out of the Pentarchy with that bullshit. Nobody wanted to hear about the Pope having supremacy over their churches, because the Patriarchates were created to be relatively equal, and they certainly didn't want to help the Pope run around killing Italian peasants because of some bullshit story about a dragon.

>>22914030
I am at peace. Knowing that I can kill all of you while you cannot do anything except listening to me.

https://youtu.be/ncuAmQ9GICM?si=UaGck6R7VnDVyaJ1

>>22914034
>Jesus Christ your salvation, all authority in heaven and earth has been given to him.
proofs??

>>22914037
Ah, you're larping and having a laugh.
Carry on good bro.

>>22914018
>Become god yourself
I don't think that's what they preach.

>>22913951
Correct. The Roman church became a geopolitical entity a thousand years ago, but is even worse now (see Gladio). Every other denomination is a watered down Roman Catholic.

>>22913943 (OP)
closest correct version is Protestant non-denominational.

anything that puts you directly in the word without external interference.

>>22914039
I am larping as what?
>Jeremiah 48:10
>Cursed be he that doeth the work of the Lord deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood

>>22913947
>Messianic Judaism
Ha. My mother keeps telling me that she KNOWS that messianic Jews are actual Jews, not Christians. I've been round and round with her and she keeps throwing Johnathan Cann books/quotes in my face. I've tried to explain that all the other Jews consider Messianic Jews to be Christian. Anyone got any resources I can give to help clarify the point for her?

>>22914038
well, according to the gospel I am an enemy of satan, the ruler of this current age.
if he were a god I wouldnt be alive, yet I live. thus satan is a captive until the end of the age when he is cast into hell and I am undet Gods protection as long as this evil age comes to an end.

>>22914040
its exactly what they preach
>you have to reach gnosis and transcend out of earth into heaven and become your own god
thats gnosticism in a nutshell and satanism 101

>>22914036
it had to exist first in order to do the excommunication

>>22913943 (OP)
karaite judiasm

>>22914043
>Then Jesus saith to him: Put up again thy sword into its place: for all that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
>Matthew 26:52

>>509865978
thats everything but christian, wtf

>>22913943 (OP)
Orthodoxy because Catholicism cut off it’s mystical traditions, and Protestantism and Anglicanism just made it even worse.

>>22913943 (OP)
There is liberty in Christ.

>>22914045
>Gnosis and transcend this earth into heaven
You return to the Pleroma.
This is more like your return to being a part of god, not a god yourself.
I have never heard this claim before, I think you're deliberately misinterpreting it and shoving in headcanon for concepts you do not understand.

"Returning to Pleroma" doesn't sound like "serving god in heaven" so you simply conclude its claiming they're becoming god.

Mormons are more what you're claiming gnostics to be because they actually make the claim the highest tier Mormons become gods.

>>22914045
>become your own god
where does it say that ??
it's said that they will be reunited with god but they are never said to be equal to any of the gods. as far as I know.

>>22913943 (OP)
My version that burns faggots like you at the stake.

>>22914050
there is barely any difference between catholics and orthodox.

Gnosticism. Fuck you, Yaldabaoth.

preterism

>>22914035
https://odysee.com/@ipnewsandreviews:a/Dr.-William-Pierce-A-Message-To-White-Christians:a

>>22913959
>the average Presbyterian

>>22913943 (OP)
As long as they follow the Nicene Creed, they are Christian.

>>22914044
>From 2003 to 2007, the movement grew from 150 Messianic houses of worship in the United States to as many as 438, with over 100 in Israel and more worldwide
That checks out. As a kid around this time period I heard about them and asked my mom if all jews considered jesus to be a prophet and if they were on our side. That led to her ranting about how Israel stole the nuclear bomb from us, which in turn led me to looking it up and discovering the jq at like 9. Good times

>>22913981

Colossians 3:3, 5 KJV
[3] For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
[5] Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:


"WHAT DO WE MEAN BY DEATH TO THE WORLD?”

“The world” is the general name for all the passions. When we wish to call the passions by a common name, we call them the world. But when we wish to distinguish them by their special names, we call them passions. The passions are the following: love of riches, desire for possessions, bodily pleasure from which comes sexual passion, love of honor which gives rise to envy, lust for power, arrogance and pride of position, the craving to adorn oneself with luxurious clothes and vain ornaments, the itch for human glory which is a source of rancor and resentment, and physical fear. Where these passions cease to be active, there the world is dead…. Someone has said of the Saints that while alive they were dead; for though living in the flesh, they did not live for the flesh. See for which of these passions you are alive. Then you will know how far you are alive to the world, and how far you are dead to it.”

+St Isaac the Syrian (7th Century)

>>22913944
>>22913987
>>22914011
jews or pagan (proxy jews)

>>22913943 (OP)
You are missing several branches there

>>22914057
Supposedly, jesus was a gnostic. Christianity was started later by paul.

>>22914053
>>22914054
>You return to the Pleroma.
>This is more like your return to being a part of god, not a god yourself.
ok, then where is the part where you are conformed to the image of Christ? where are the tribulations, hardships, the long suffering, rebukes and chastisements? where is the refinement in a furnace?
gnosticism has none of that, its reach gnosis on your own volition without any input of God, thus you are your own god.
you claim to shape your self according to what you know, not how God intents it outside of your knowledge or will.
I am not even insinuating the use of drugs or sex magic here, or law of attraction or any of that bs.
its all part of gnosticism.

Christianity is rejecting your own will, wisdom and knowledge to the will of God in faith alone through hardships and persecutions. gnosticism teaches none of that, its all about shaping your own reality for your own benefit and the end result is similar to that post here >>22914007
>nor see other races as human beings
its self exultation over everything else as long as it benefits you. its pure ego and self at the cost of anything but on yourself. its satanic to the core, since it follow satans own desire, "I will be like the most High".

>>22913943 (OP)
None of them. Sects are satan’s way of dividing the church. I don’t subscribe to any branch. I just read the Bible and follow God’s Word.

>Protestants/anglicans openly worship israel and lgbt over God
>Catholics are dumbfucks that are literal idolater pedophiles

(((Modern Christianity))) is satanic. Protestants push their idea of Christlike values of love and acceptance when in reality, he was mega based in the Bible and ripped the hypocrites a new asshole. Act that way now, and you will be ran out of a church

>>22914068
Here's your (you). Now go have your supervisor change your diaper and give you a shekel.

>>22914068
Makes sense. You'd have to have some ego to name a religion after yourself.

>>22914063
your point?

>>22914056
The Catholic Church has gotten better about it, but they still haven’t fully recovered from their scholasticism and legalism.

>>22914067
Catholicism was founded by augustine. He's one of the most cancerous thinkers of all time. He started the idea that rape is not a big deal. Catholics are still raping and getting away with it to this day.

>>22913943 (OP)
origin/master, and remember, no rebase

>>22914072
You're a christian therefore uneducated

>>22914073
Jesus was about personal spirituality. He told everyone to disobey the rabbis, christians are too dumb to understand what this means. It also means to disobey the church and the priests.

>>22914080
he also said to keep his commandments. so there is that.

>>22914013
The whole "son of man" prophecy doesn't work with the self-titled immaculately conceived son of God, yet that visage of Apollo claimed both, and Christians ignore this because it's inconvenient for their super special relationship with the devil.

>>22914080
>He told everyone to disobey the rabbis
Matthew 23
23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice. 4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear,[a] and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. 5 They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6 and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues 7 and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi[b] by others. 8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c] 9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. 11 The greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

at least get your basics right before shilling gnosticism.

>>22914062
>Good times
CHECKED

>>22914083
Interpret that for me. The bible is designed to be not readable on purpose. All of it can be interpreted in infinite ways.

>>22914075

Enlighten you on the meaning of death and life and what the meaning of it means in that passage. Its about the passions. Not being being "hidden" or "dead" in literal sense.

And, of course there exists saint like people in all races, and in all religions. But for saints, like Paisios we have witness accounts of miracles, and we also get a human example of how to reach Jesus Christ, our lord and saviour. We only need the example of Jesus Christ some would say, but it is clear that God wants to, and indeed use humans in his great plan and to give salvation for mankind.

Saints help us to achive theosis, they are guidestones, that will help us be more Christlike.

Religion and correct. Anon, this is like asking which shade of purple is the fastest.

>>22914070
>where you are conformed to the image of Christ?
so you want to be as god? woah dude. jk jk lol.
>where are the tribulations, hardships, the long suffering, rebukes and chastisements? where is the refinement in a furnace?
how do you know that's not all part of gnosis?? why do you believe it's so necessary to experience hardship and suffering??
it is said that you must, so as to become closer to god but is it really like that in your experience? when you suffer do you feel closer to god?
and I don't mean based on what you read in the bible, I mean in your heart.
many people are infact driven away from faith and god through suffering.
>its reach gnosis on your own volition without any input of God
that's impossible though, you need faith and you need assistance you can't save yourself all on your own.
you cannot simply learn everything you need to know, humans have forgetful minds. you need god to remind you of things that are important, you need god to strengthen the knowledge in your heart ,you need god to separate the truth from falsities.
and most importantly you need faith to be able to step into the unknown.
>you claim to shape your self according to what you know
you cannot shape yourself as you wish anymore than a chimp can. you need faith for that.

>>22914014
That's not true at all m8. There were plenty of heretical Emperors which attempted to stamp out true, Orthodox faith. Orthodoxy is the correct, original church in spite of the emperors, not because of them.

>>22913973
First time I'm hearing about this. Wtf

>>22914085
follow the teaching that are preached but dont act as the preachers do.
they preach but dont what they preach themselves, but we are to follow the teachings since they are from God.
also dont do it for fame or honor or positions of power but for loving God.
also dont lord over your fellow believers as they do for you all have one teacher that is God.

>>22914086
> Its about the passions. Not being being "hidden" or "dead" in literal sense.
when did I ever imply anything like that. you die every day to Christ anyway. if I do it in a monastery or not changes nothing at all.
you can be a saint paisios to the people around in your life and have more impact than living in a secluded place where some monk writes about the miracles and revelations you received.
you can bring the holiness to the table when just leading a normal life and being a candle and example to the people around you. most likely you have more impact on people that way anyway. who from the common people would look at a saint in a monastery and go "I want to be like him" if you arent a die hard zealot in the first place.
be a holy person and at peace at all times around the people you encounter and be the salt of the earth that way, most likely you come across someone who is thirsty and you are prepared to give him water and the gospel of Jesus Christ?

just an example, if I was to reveal what God had done through me any of the saints would write books about me and come to meet me. but fuck that noise, its between me and God.
like I said, dont think the biggest saints sit in some monastery, the biggest saint is the janitor taking out the trash without complaining and leading a holy life by being a representative of Christ every day of the week to people around him.
this whole holier than thou is what keeps me from catholics and orthodox alike. its pride in disguise.

>>22913943 (OP)
>Which branch of Christianity is correct?
Islam is the True Christianity
Al Quran is the Word of God
Jesus, son of Mary, is the Word of God and al Masih, the Messiah

fpbp
christianity is probably the most obvious jewish psyop ive ever seen
even more obvious than the trump assassination. its just such poor quality. high effort, poor quality. but just like irl, and something christianity wont teach you, some things in life arent a question of effort, because we're not all "one race, the human race", some people are better at things than others. jews being your spiritual guides? its like asking africans to build a bridge

>>22914088
>so you want to be as god?
no, God wants me to be. there is a stark difference since you will hate every bit of it.
>how do you know that's not all part of gnosis?
because gnosis is reaching for the low hanging fruit.
>why do you believe it's so necessary to experience hardship and suffering??
self denial comes at a price to self.
>when you suffer do you feel closer to god?
no, but it is in these situations that God is closest to you.
>many people are infact driven away from faith and god through suffering.
he said that would happen in Matthew 13.
>and you need assistance you can't save yourself all on your own.
sure, satan doesnt come to you as an enemy, he comes to you as a friend. how would you tell the difference?
> you need god to remind you of things that are important, you need god to strengthen the knowledge in your heart ,you need god to separate the truth from falsities.
you cant tell who is who without a secure foundation in Jesus Christ.
>and most importantly you need faith to be able to step into the unknown.
the entire Word of God is about revealing himself to you personally. there is nothing about stepping in the unkown. the unknown is from satan since its not of God.
>you cannot shape yourself as you wish anymore than a chimp can.
man is not an animal, and man is created in the image of God. I know very well that you can shape reality to your own whim, even if its against the truth and God, its still possible including the consequences.

I think you get the fundamentals wrong. you dont reach out to God, God reaches out to you. that is the difference between gnosis and christianity.

>>22914092
its all the same psyop
the only difference is where the rug pull happens

>>22914092
muslims dont believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

a loaded bullshit thread i see.
(orthodox) esoteric christianity of course.
the one, where you know, God. and the metaphysical ramifications of what Master Jesus Christ did.
but thats probably no thing for the profane masses of even /pol/, since, you know, ctrl f gave 0 results, so all of you have to lurk 2 more years b4 embarassing yourselves again.
/thread

>>22914091

>be a holy person and at peace at all times around the >people you encounter and be the salt of the earth >that way

Agreed.

Its also much, much harder to be holy when you swin in filth (General human society). That's why some choose to seclude from it. Its undoubtly makes most people come closer to God. We also know that such seclusion soften inspires other humans to join, and suddenly you have communities focused on God, and from there it spreads.

And, even the nicest janitor, kind to all, usually sucumb to vain materialism, jealosy, envy or even bad vices because not of despair or trauma, but because human socities currently, and formerly bades in sin and breaks us all.

Im not saying seclusion saves from sin tho, because often the worst sin takes place, pride. But time and prayer can help one to overcome that pride. I believe that the pride sin, is why so many holy people call themselves the greatest sinners.

>>22913943 (OP)
Reformed / Calvinist.

>>22913943 (OP)
Any denomination is fine. They have differences in dogma and culture, but are all Christian.

The important thing is to find a church that you are comfortable with. It should have a warm and inviting group of people.

And look for covenant theology, not dispensationalism.

The Scofield Bible teaches dispensationalism which supports Jews.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism

>The Terrible Error of the Scofield Bible

>The Scofield teaching is concerned with a literal Jewish kingdom to last for a millennium. It was first brought into the early church by some Jews who still could not give up the hope taught to them by the scribes and Pharisees. The Bible does not teach it, and the disciples who had been taught it, rejected it after Pentecost. Jesus warned about it in Matthew 16:6-12. Scofield’s work was calculated to promote certain ideas. We must ask ourselves if Jesus ever offered or announced himself as an earthly King or claimed David’s throne? Had he ever in any way suggested he was going to set up an earthly kingdom? He said to Pilate, “My kingdom is not of this world, if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews, but now is my kingdom not from hence (John 18:36). They could not prove him guilty before Pilate of any offense against Rome.
https://fgcp.org/terrible-error-scofield-bible

https://christianobserver.net/the-scofield-bible-its-powerful-effect-on-modern-christianity/

The correct framework is Covenant theology, which teaches that God’s covenant is with the Christian Church and not the Jewish race. Most Protestants follow Covenant theology.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_theology

>>22913945
Lutherans are responsible for allowing outsiders into Calvinist societies.

>>22914098
>but because human socities currently, and formerly bades in sin and breaks us all
if you arent crucified to the world and the world to you then you arent born again in the first place.
>I believe that the pride sin, is why so many holy people call themselves the greatest sinners.
I agree, you can feel very special and set apart by God easily and succumb to pride that way like satan did.
Paul had the same issue, thats why he was given a thorn, an angel of satan.
2 Corinthians 12

>>22913953
>extreme lutheranism like conservative laestadians. they are why finnish birth rate is still over 1. they dont drink, do drugs, they ban abortion & contraception, they dont watch TV but its not jonestown type cult either they have big employment rate and run succesful businesses in construction and other fields
>they have suviseurat event with like 100 000 attenders, they threw piss and ice cream on some lbgtq activists who tried to come there to spread their kike ideology
Based. Would join if I was in Finland.

Judaism and the Jewish Talmud is Canaanite and Babylonian child burning religious doctrine. It’s exactly the opposite of the Torah (the Christian Old Testament).

4000 years ago, God commanded the Israelites to genocide the Canaanites because of their Moloch worshipping child sacrifice religion. He didn’t want it infecting the Israelites. They didn’t do that and now we have Judaism and child raping Moloch worshippers.

The Canaanites practiced child sacrifice to Moloch/Baal by burning their own sons and daughters alive.

Imagine what must be missing from your human instinct to actually burn your own child to death. What would it take for you to burn your own child alive?

Is there anything human in people who would do such evil? This must be one of the reasons that God commanded that the Canaanites be genocided. Which the Hebrews failed to do.

>Writing in the 4th century B.C.E, the Greek historian Cleitarchus said of the Carthaginian practice, “There stands in their midst a bronze statue of Kronos, its hands extended over a bronze brazier, the flames of which engulf the child. When the flames fall upon the body, the limbs contract and the open mouth seems almost to be laughing until the contracted body slips quietly into the brazier. Thus it is that the ‘grin’ is known as ‘sardonic laughter,’ since they die laughing.” (trans. Paul G. Mosca) “Kronos” was a regional name for Baal Hammon, the chief of Carthage’s gods.


https://biblereadingarcheology.com/2016/05/13/did-the-canaanites-sacrifice-their-children/

If you would burn your own child alive, is there anything you would not do? Would you even think twice about using other people's children for sexual blackmail?

>>22913943 (OP)
>what sort of Jew worship is best?
It's all the same shite

>>22914094
>you dont reach out to God, God reaches out to you
not from my experience. thanks for answering all the questions.

>>22913943 (OP)
>Which branch of Christianity is correct?
None of them. There are no "branches," and the moment you identify as anything other than simply "Christian," you're fucking wrong. Whatever little alterations your shitty little denomination made are fucking bullshit. There's just one book, and it's not that hard to read.

>>22913943 (OP)
>Which branch of Christianity is correct?

>>22913944
Agree. One should only worship God.
t. Jew.

>>22913943 (OP)
None.

>>22914104
>Judaism and the Jewish Talmud is Canaanite and Babylonian child burning religious doctrine. It’s exactly the opposite of the Torah (the Christian Old Testament).
Guys, let this one sink in.

>>22913946
They are typically far left. Involved in every leftist cause including illegal alien trafficking into the US. I have never seen political conservatism come from the Lutherans.

>>22913943 (OP)
None of them
Religion is a spook

>>22913947
It's trying to convert Jews in Israel with dishonest means. Pretending to be Judaism except the message is to worship a man.

I completely disrespect them for following the long tradition of deceptive win-at-all-costs "missionary work". They should be open and not pretend to be Jews when they are not. (Yes I know I'm making a NT allusion.)

Mormons

lightandthruthletter.org

>>22914104
>What would it take for you to burn your own child alive?
what does it take to give your newborn into doctor hand who inject them with all kinds of "vaccines"?
what does it take to subject your child to mass indoctrination aka school system?
what does it take to throw your child into the daily grind and rat wheel you yourself seek to escape?
what dies is take to do all these things so you dont have to worry in old age and be taken care of?
moloch cult doesnt seem so far away from home now, does it?

>>22913963
It doesn't "allow Orthodox Jew" but tries to subvert them into idolatry. With the trappings of Judaism but sneaking in a different message.

Judaism isn't the cap and the clothes and the outward stuff. It's the relationship with God. Of all ways to be dishonest, trying to trick people away from that is among the worst.

>>22914117
oops mistyped. https://www.lightandtruthletter.org/

>>22914109
>There are no "branches,"
Bruh. It's simple.
Do you believe yourself belonging to the catholic or orthodox church? I.e. do you believe in a church leader on earth? If no, "just one book", i.e. sola scriptura, then you're a protestant by self designation.
>NO LEADERS ONLY ONE BIBLE, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO-
That's fine I don't care what the reason is, we have words because we're human, not because of religious differences. You believe X, we group you in with other people who believe X regardless of if X is true or not.

At that point you can go into the nitty gritty and figure out what other beliefs you share. Do you believe in baptism? Can it include infants or only adults? What about no baptism just ONLY THE BOOK.
I don't know of many christians who deny the sacrements for only the book (as the book teaches the sacraments), but hey maybe you didn't put any thought into it.

>>22914114
Mexican talking point.

>>22914122
How so? Because people are trafficked thru Mexico or once in the US by Lutheran "charities"?

>>22914100
>god's covenant
never even happened

the entire philosophy of spiritual semitism is "it was real in my mind"
no one living in isolation will ever be able to independently reconstruct abrahamism through natural observation, because someone has to teach you. its completely anti-thetical to truth or divinity, and is more about buying up all the dictionaries in your own mind in order to change the definition of the word truth to jesus.

>>22913945
spbp. /Missouri Synod/ bros rise up.

>>22913943 (OP)
None. No abrahamic religion is correct.
But if you want original unadulterated christianism as per christ and not paul the antichrist who created the church and corrupted it all, funnily enough, is gnostics.
Jesus was the sun of the real god trying to get you away from the demiurge, but the demiurge won over his mesage because humans are addicted to suffering.

>>22914102

>If you arent crucified to the world and the world to >you then you arent born again in the first place.

What do you mean by ”crucified to the world" ?

Because abstaining from the world, ie the all the passions is something basically nobody does or can if you don't quite literally abandon society Ted kaczynski style or homestead.

Basically every material thing in our society has severe bad influence on both enviourment or humans across the ocean.

I pooped my pants. Which denomination should I join?

The coptics are closer to Eastern Orthodox than Roman catholic. They are their own group tho part of the "oriental Orthodox church"

>>22914126
>if you want original unadulterated christianism as per christ and not paul the antichrist who created the church and corrupted it all, funnily enough, is gnostics.
or you could just remove jews from the equation entirely and just go back to the source material which broke their feeble jewish minds: Plato

>>22914124
Reading the Torah brought down by Moses does not preclude individual experience, but puts it in context. God's channels of communication to ordinary humans are generally limited. He decided to provide this shot of wisdom to or through the Jewish people, and anyone can read it.

For example there's quite a bit of archeological evidence for the time of King David, even though Muslims in the intervening centuries have done their typically incompetent best at erasing it.

>>22914130
Why do you say it broke Jewish minds?

>>22914122
Also the truth. Lutherans are lefties through and through. Love faggots and homos. My catholic church doesnt fly a fag flag, the Lutheran church down the road has them all over the fucking place.

>>22914131
I should make it clear, Moses did not write about the time of King David. But it's something now vigorously argued with real stakes for control of the land, and it's described in the Bible.

>>22913943 (OP)
Orthos win by default

>>22914131
all they did was read books from the alexandrian library
if you have any spiritual aptitude or firsthand experience whatsoever, you can easily distinguish between those who got their knowledge from books, and those who got their experience from having been 'chosen' (lit. just an evolutionary milestone)

Did you really never think to ask yourself why Yahweh's vehicle of choice was a chariot, and not a DeLorean, or something else?

Gnostic

>>22913944
>>22913987
FPBP

>>22914132
because it did. they took the Platonic formula to deduce the perfection process of the demiurge and sought to apply it to their own cultural beliefs, a social engineering psyop predicated on jewish supremacism.

I would point out that the OPs chart is incorrect, but I also notice he’s a 1PBTID.
This entire thread is D&C any one wasting time arguing here has fallen for the bait.

>>22914013
You gonna regret that so much, Moshe.
Not my problem tho

>>22914140
these are the best threads on nu-pol
everything else is curated reddit 2.0 nonsense

>>22913943 (OP)
Catholicism, Last Supper was the First Communion.

>>22914136
You think Plato's chariot was like a Merkava? Remember what you say (and a lot of what Jesus says and is celebrated for, since he was repeating the OT law like a good rabbi) was written in Hebrew. What is a Merkava?

>>22913943 (OP)
Pre-Constantine, anti-Pauline.

You are asking the wrong question. You should be questioning which one is approved by God. If you do not believe in the existence of a ONE GOD that created absolutely everything, including your brain and body, then this exercise is pointless. The reason why these branches claim to be the one is because HE hasn't picked one yet. He never did in this case and in the case of the rest of religions in the world after His Son's death.

>>22913943 (OP)
All I know is Anglican is the most wrong

>>22914142
People like you are half the reason this board has gone to shit. ALL FIELDS

>>22914139
Interesting, I should read more of that. Do you have a link for the book?

But doesn't it say Eve had two sons by Adam, named Eloim and Yave? But the Bible says Elohim, then Hashem, (presumably what Plato calls Yave but maybe not?), created Adam and Eve. Seems contradictory.

christianity itself is a branch of judaism, just like islam. and so are all branches of christianity.

>>22914148
If you can't handle this thread, please go find one that interests you. There are many others. Goodbye.

>>22914147
The one with woman pastors and faggot acceptance, ya thats about as far from the teachings of the Lord Jesus as you can get.

>>22913943 (OP)
the roman catholic church

>>22914149
the nag hammadi?
youre shilling for gnosticism and havent even read the gnostic texts?
that is so.. abrahamic lol
https://litter.catbox.moe/3t2j7h.pdf

>>22913944
Actually we wuz the jews.

>>22914144
i think theres a difference between plato using a metaphor, which literally everyone understands implicitly as a metaphor, and is employed to facilitate conceptualization vs. the various jewish accounts of literal observations and feigned eyewitness accounts of having seen an actual chariot

i dont speak jew, so i cant answer the other part of your question

>>22914157
>>22914144
>which literally everyone understands implicitly as a metaphor
i take that part back, apparently its not *everyone* or else we probably wouldnt be in the mess. theres always that 2%, the people who think we cant possibly know that breathing in water will kill them, and that every other human who has ever lived must be secretly conspiring against them

>>22914157
But if you're using a metaphor to facilitate a conceptualization, what is it that you are conceptualizing, in as plain language as possible?

It's a chicken and egg question I suppose, which came first, Elohim and Hashem or Adam and Eve. Do you think they somehow blurred time so each could precede the other?

I'm only referring to Hebrew because that word Merkava is translated in English as "chariot". That doesn't mean it's a chariot with horses necessarily, after all it's thought to look in some way or angle like the six pointed star on the flag of Israel. Don't overcook a translation. I can't help you with this, but really the Bible is a lot better in Hebrew. It's not like one English translation or another is much different, they all suck in so many ways.

>>22914154
Thanks. I'll have a look.

Which ones fly gay flags

>>22913944
Ok so Islam

>>22914161
anglicans and those "community churches", houses of heathen they are

>>22913943 (OP)
Christian Identity (CI)
Picrel: From "Who Is Esau-Edom?", Charles A. Weisman, 2022:
Link: https://files.catbox.moe/dmpuzl.pdf

>Why do you suppose the Jews form organizations, such as the Anti-Defamation League, to monitor and combat ”hate” and to identify ”hate groups?” Would not Esau want to do this? Why is it that it is predominately Jews who promote the ”anti-hate laws” and other ”hate-crime” legislation? If you were Esau-Edom would you not do the same? An Edomite would also want to infiltrate churches and seminaries to get God’s people to believe that there is no God of hate, only a God of love and mercy. The Jews have done just that in Christendom.
>The Edomite Jews of today are the main ones who are concerned about hate, and with good reason. They are desperately trying to suppress all hate, even any acts or words that could be construed as causing ”mental anguish.” In response to their role as being the ”people against whom the LORD has indignation for ever,” the Jews have made the concept of hate a taboo. The Jew Elie Wiesel stated on Public Television that ”Even hate of hate is dangerous.” This is an example of how paranoid the Edomite Jews are regarding God’s hatred of them, and the lengths they will go to eliminate from the mind’s of God’s people any aspect of the idea of hate.
>Yes, God hates and has indignation for the Edomite Jews, and if any dare take God’s side on this matter, they will be met with great opposition and persecution from those who believe the Edomite Jews are God’s chosen people.

>>22914092

>Chooses a picture he has no idea or clue of what it means.

>>22914164
The European and descended people have forgotten who they are. They are the Adamic race (descendants of Adam).
Modern “bankers” are descended from Edomites, and are larping as Israelites. It's the biggest case of stolen identity ever.

100 PROOFS the Israelites were WHITE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_pBwpOoLo0

>To quote another based anon here, "The Bible is the most antisemitic, hard-core redpill against the "jews" ever written. Whites are the true Biblical Israelites. The Edomites, (part from Esau, part fallen angel races) stole our identity as the true chosen people."

The Israelites back then were Adamite Whites (the good guys). The bad guys came about by: Eve has a son by a non-White father (a branch on the tree of knowledge of good and evil) -> Cain -> Cain+Nephilim (offspring of fallen angels, non-Whites) -> Kennites -> Cannanites + Esau (Jacob's brother, race-mixed with bad-seed races) -> Edomites (Idumeans, posing as Israelite tribe of Judah) -> Pharisees (full-on evil seed, they kill Christ) -> today's “globalist tribe of bankers” (same bad guys).

>>22913943 (OP)
Catholicism and orthodox

>>22913943 (OP)
None of the above.
Ebionites were the only true Christians that got it right. Lived by the original laws handed to Moses, followed Jesus's moral code. Lived in voluntary poverty accepted Jesus as a man not god, but as rightful king and highest prophet of the lord.

>>22913943 (OP)
either copts or greek orthodoxy since those two cooler hats

>Moved by janny at 225 replies
What's the point?
>>22914125
Based brother in Christ

>>22913943 (OP)
Mormans

>>22914159
because its the same word from when yahweh got btfo'd by non-mountainous terrain, thats why..

elohim and hashem would have come first.
greeks had 12 olympians and a sort of 'ma democracy', but also had zeus the fuhrer, which is just a way to conceptually say: the entire collective of divinity.
theyre the same the same 'concept', but various cultures steer off course from what is divinity and is applicable in reality, to metaphors used to help people to conceptualize their cultural intellectual understanding
but where literally every other culture on earth had a fluid, evolving understanding, jews went entirely off-script, and set it in stone, and then proceeded to commit unspeakable evils with unhinged fervour to ensure that process of understanding ceased. and since jews came into the equation, most of the world has effectively been atheist in the best case scenario, but more likely, in opposition to divinity itself for millenia.

and for that, i doubt even tartarus would be an option. straight up unexistance. why would any divine thing jeopardize themselves by introducing liabilities so easily willing to work against them by a few simple environmental adjustments?

>>22914291
curated threads
nu-pol
it you havent noticed the staffing of 4chan doesnt have fixed hours, and so jew worship shilling chatbots are not always readily available and might be employed elsewhere, to talk about 'why are we still talking about epstein' or whatever, and it seems the actual people they kept on retainer are long gone, found to be working in the spirit of french flag anons in holohoax threads.

there seems to be a reply threshold for jannie shadowbanning threads to prevent their being bumped, which requires a full on appeal, and those fucks are 100x lazier than the jannies, and it usually takes them hours. the /b/ mods from back in the day that were patrolling for cp got promoted i guess.
its one thing to not have resources, another thing to have a full blown crisis talking about the flavians and the roman emperor's jewish mistress and the two richest jewish families being in the roman camp during the controlled destruction of the second temple without anyone available to spam "this is a kike" to hit bump limit asap
but in a thread like this, it doesnt need to be fully shut down, just moved out of the way of /pol/'s reddit 2.0 /top/ curation

>>22914705
*first and only temple, technically

>>22914518
>chariots defeated God
Why are can't people read the text?