Thread 23089567

Isn't the mass hallucination cope that atheists use against Christians with the resurrection just special pleading?
They try to justify it with the fact that it's a supernatural event, that it's not real because it's not natural.
Just seems circular all-round, don't it?

>>23089567 (OP)
I would personally just say it's a made up jewish fairytale

I would personally just say this is a politics board

More like
>this guy flew 2,000 years ago
>prove it
>this book says he did
>you're right
>this guy flew 2,000 years ago
>prove it
>how else could it be written in this book?
>the book could be a lie

Jesus was a Jewish street magician

>>23089570
>The Word of God are a bunch of lies, but the Word of Man are a bunch of truths!
pic related

>>23089567 (OP)
Checked

>>23089567 (OP)
I was resurrected. I am god. Here are a hundred witnesses saying I am god. They're all part of my ethnic cohort too. You aren't.

Guess you have believe me now.

>>23089570
That's just begging the question though, how else do you explain the explosive growth of Christianity without it being true Given the degree of persecution, it was all just about sacrificing your life with nothing to gain.
And the "thousands" of witnesses who died for what they claimed they saw, all that is left without an explanation.
Also the completely radical new set of values.

>>23089570
I guess all of the holocaust tales are true because they were written down in books with a lot of jewish witnesses - just like the bible.

>>23089575
How do you explain the growth of all of the people who love jewish comics and movies if they aren't true?

>>23089578
Jewish behavior is the same today as it was 2000+ years ago. They spin tall tales and then a bunch of retards take them as truth. The same arguments supporting christianity can also be used to support the jewish holocaust narrative.

>>23089572
The book is definitionally not the word of God, unless you happen to be a jew or muslim.
I repeat: the bible is not a revealed text.

>>23089567 (OP)
Why should anyone believe such an event happened?

>>23089581
I don't get it, are you denying Christian history all together with Rome and Greek?

>>23089582
I'll ask again. Why should anyone believe such an event happened?

>>23089583
I need you to get a little less vaguer.
Are you talking about the gospel? Or the history?

>>23089584
Nigger what is your OP about? Are you stupid on purpose?

>>23089572

ok but can they?

>>23089585
>what is your OP about?
Both my nigga.
How many reality did you think there are?

I once fought a boxer who believed without a doubt that he would win because he believed in God.
Needless to say I kicked the living shit out of him.
Now who's next?

>>23089587
OK, so it's natural

>>23089589
What now?

>>23089590
You're stupidity. It's natural

>>23089567 (OP)
it's crazy how all accounts of magic are from thousands of years ago

>>23089575
>how else do you explain the explosive growth of Christianity without it being true
you could say that about any religion that got popular, like islam. Most religions are viral, but that doesn't show anything

>>23089591
Well, that was rather quick.

>>23089567 (OP)
You christfags have a really big problem with understanding simple issues when it is through the context of your dead jew on a stick story. When dealing with this childish and insane thinking I make it easier to understand by drawing parallells with other subjects.
Your shit post basically suggests that X amount of people saw something therefore it must be true.
Lots of people see ghosts, are they real?
Lots of people claim to have seen bigfoot, is he real?
Look at the mormons, millions of people believe in a known con man walked into the woods and found golden tablets that only he ever saw and could read which also said he could fuck the wives of his neighbors. MILLIONS of people believe that story.
So when your ancient book says a bunch of bullshit why would anyone believe that after we already know most people are retarded?
pic related this is a true and factual picture of jesus

>>23089593
>you could say that about any religion that got popular, like islam.
How exactly? Enlighten me.

>>23089567 (OP)
>yet another faggot kike flag
>yet another anti-Christian thread

>>23089568
This. It's pretty fucking simple.

>No no no you don't understand several people said the same thing so it's actually verified as true
>Here are some extreme mental gymnastics fused with my misunderstanding of philosophy that I use to avoid the obvious conclusion that it's actually all just Jewish fairytales and I was brainwashed

>>23089567 (OP)
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>>23089567 (OP)
It's curious how after cameras were invented miracles stopped happening.

>>23089567 (OP)
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>>23089568
You say that because the Bible chaps your hide, you don't like the idea that God owns you and that there are rules, thats fine, you have free will, just know there are consequences.

>>23089568
probably, but that made up jewish fairytale has brought civilization to places atheists get literally eaten by

>>23089567 (OP)
How is asking for proof special pleading?

>>23089572
How do you know the bible is the word of God?
Does God run printing presses? Or do humans print it?
Does he type? Or do humans typeset it?
Seems like all words are the word of man.
But for some reason you unquestioningly accept that some of them are the word of God just because they say so.

If I told you my posts were the word of God, would you believe me?

>>23089600
The Bible states the witnesses were over 500 and much more.
There are over hundreds of millions of people who believe they have had supernatural experiences which caused them to give their life for Christ, be it death or living, radically changed people claiming the Holy Spirit and so on and that's just the documented ones.

There's really just no sense to explain its growth without the Holy Spirit at work.
Especially more so now.

>>23089567 (OP)
.,.

>>23089600
They still do. You don't pay attention.

that's perfectly valid reasoning.

>>23089567 (OP)
.,.,

>>23089602
>you just dont believe in dead jew on stick because your a faggot

please stop ingesting crayons retard

>>23089606
Islam has almost as many adherents as Christianity (2 billion to 2.3 billion).
How do you explain its rise?
Does the holy spirit promote Islam too?

how about option C. God is real, the fantastical interpretations of his presence are by retards, his presence is omnipresent but subtle and muted

>>23089606
>The Bible states
kys jew worshiping faggot
sage

>>23089604
Don't forget that Adam and Eve hadn't eaten from the tree of knowledge yet so they had no understanding on what sin was so to punish them for committing a sin when they didn't know what sin was is preposterous. That would be like a kid touching a stove for the first time and didn't understand what "hot" meant and because your kid touched the stove you punished the kid and all of its ancestors.

>>23089595
I'm not denying those but what's the catch with those exactly? What makes it necessarily true without any viable alternatives?

>>23089611
You lash out because you don't want to face the truth. Repent your wicked ways and let his love shine through you. You'll find peace.
Or continue down your path of wanton destruction, you will be judged.

>>23089567 (OP)
Atheists always try to use science to disprove my religion but

my UNBEATABLE argument is that "God invented science" and he defies it

god invented everything including science and so any 'science' argument is retarded

>>23089606
Millions of people believe in X it must be true!
Islam has 2 billion followers therefore mohammad piss be on him flew to the moon on a unicorn and cut it in half. checkmate

>>23089567 (OP)
too bad the same argument doesn't work in family court

even tried to use this as an example regarding all the lies the ex made up about me

>"your honor, he does THIS"
>*i can't prove i DIDN'T*
>especially when i never did

i remember telling them
>she accuses me of all kinds of stuff she can never prove i did, and I can't prove i didn't.. because it never happened
>next she'll tell you i can fly, but "only" when no one is watching

some advice btw, never try using logic to make your point i court after the first time you notice them copletely ignoring it

you're just wasting your time - or at least that's how they treated me

>>23089618
There is no helping you the only person that can save you is yourself

>>23089608
You'll have to link me a video of someone rising from the dead that was dead for a prolonged period of time.

>>23089622
I have all the help I'll ever need with God.
You feel hopeless because you chose to abandon God. Its not too late for his mercy and love.

>>23089576
You say that like we don't have proof the Holocaust was a lie.

>>23089610
Do psychiatrists resurrect dead Palestinians or something? What are they trying fill there?
Damaged brain is damaged brain. It's not a broken leg - there's no medicine to reverse mental damage.

>>23089567 (OP)
Mark 16 was added posthumously

>>23089615
top kek

>>23089617
Nothing, thats the point. Christfags say bullshit like well X eye witnesses allegedly saw some shit therefore it must be true. People make bullshit claims all the time that millions of people believe. It doesnt make them true.

>>23089596
If someone said that "Islam exploding" to 2 billion followers shows that it is true, how is that any different?

>>23089595
lmfao this dude is a troon

>>23089612
Mohammed and his followers were overtly stated to be incentivized by gains.
How are these supposed to even be in the same ballpark?

>>23089624
thats fantastic for you, I just hope you picked the right god, they usually get upset if you guess wrong.

>>23089625
i always wanted to open a pub called The Eagle and Bear Cage

itd have a little hollercoaster that takes drinks around like the neat conveyers belts in jap sushi restaurants

>>23089631
oh look a braindead christfag who doesnt have an original thought in his head immedietly reduced to personal attacks wow never seen this before im sooooooooooo surprised

>>23089630
Again, what's supposed to make that the only explanation?
Sorry for the slow replys, spent the whole day dealing with retards, practically slurring right now.

>>23089635
>Leaf
>Opinion discarded.

>>23089621
>directly talking to the judge
Oof, you didn't get a good lawyer, huh? Protip: there are ways to get that kinda shit thrown out, but it's not by trying to "debate" with the judge. Your lawyer objects to the statements and gets them thrown out.

To anyone reading this: if you're going to court, FOR ANY REASON, GET AN ATTORNEY

The system is NOT fair, it is NOT just, you NEED a lawyer to even attempt to play the game. Without a lawyer, you lose guaranteed.

>>23089633
>Raging troon trying this retarded "gotcha"
It sure as Hell isn't the cowshit-abiding one worshipped by the people your country is importing.

Okay, let’s get one thing very, very, VERY clear. Science is about evidence. It’s rigorous. There are things you can do to determine if things are right, or if they are wrong. If science shows something to be wrong- it is wrong. If religion shows something to be right, but science shows it to be wrong, it is wrong. If religion shows something to be wrong, but science shows something to be right, it is right, It’s non-negotiable, no matter what you say. And no, you don’t need to be atheist to not e a science denying asshat making the world worse. In summary: do better, all of you.

>>23089567 (OP)
All I know is that I try my best to follow the commandments of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ but that the relentless blasphemy posted by Indians on this site is filling me with a murderous hatred. I really wonder if these indian demons would think they were being clever trolls if I choked one to death and watched the shitspirit leave its shit body. I wouldnt do that of course, but /pol is a great place to dream.

>>23089635
>who doesnt have an original thought in his head
Says the retarded troon repeating defeated points the fedora-tippers were making in 2012 and posting arguments take from kikes?
lmfao kill yourself

>>23089632
Half the pastors in America are shameless grifters.
Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen, etc.

>>23089594
I'll ask again, and I'll even quite your OP
>>23089567 (OP)
>the resurrection
Why should anyone believe such an event happened?

>>23089603
Columbus was a kike. 1492 is when the jews got expelled from Spain, so they crossed the Atlantic to plunder another group of goyim, almost too effectively. They were real disappointed when El Dorado ended up being about as real as New Jerusalem.

>>23089606
The bible also states falsehoods immediately in Genesis by saying Earth was made before the sun and birds existed before land animals.

>>23089634
>The Eagle and Bear Cage
no one's stopping you

do it

>>23089639
well we will never know there is 1.2 billion hindus who believe you are wrong and 2 billion muslims who believe you are wrong not to mention other denominations currently in favor and not counting the many gods no one believes anymore. The great part is they are all just as smug and self serving and confident in their belief as you, the mudslimes are so sure theyre right theyll fly you into a wall at 400mph to prove it. They all have scholars with "sophisticated" understandings of their text. You cant all be right, but you can certainly all be full of shit

>>23089619
>Update
Notice how all the religion denyers ignored my post? Bunch of fags.

>>23089636
it's not the only explanation for Islam, and it's not the only explanation for Christianity. Religions spread by human contact, and they are rarely fact checked. Especially 2000 years ago

>>23089607
Kek

>>23089642
thats correct says me no christfag has ever had a rebuttal to any criticism levelled at their dead jew on a stick story.

>>23089648
>well we will never know there is 1.2 billion hindus who believe you are wrong
Bro, when you're unironically arguing that jeets might know better than the people that built the West, it's time to rethink your life.

>>23089619
>my UNBEATABLE argument is that "God invented science" and he defies it
>>23089649
That's not an argument. It's a personal opinion

>>23089652
>Nobody in ten years has ever rebuttaled me!
That tells me it's more likely you just ignore everything that proves you wrong.
Why you parrot jewish talking points tho?

>>23089653
Men built the west, you are a neet faggot who has accomplished nothing in his life. you are probably a gen Z who has never had sex. there is no we

>>23089654
There's absolutely nothing you can do to devalue that general "opinion" or to disprove the concept in any way. Retard.

>>23089602
what is it you need god to tell you not to do?

>>23089567 (OP)
>>23089572
>>23089575
>>23089606
>>23089618
I don't have time for your fucking fairy-tales.

>>23089655
why do you pretend you are distinct from jews you literally worship the king of the jews you

>>23089641
People not wanting to believe in a Jewish book and worship a jewish messiah doesn't make them Indian. Believing in a Jewish book which tells you to worship a Jewish messiah makes you spiritually Jewish, by definition.

>>23089657
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions bro. No reason why anyone should believe them though

Religion is wrong, period. You know why? If every group of people on earth has their book be dictation from god or people who talked to god or know god or whatever, then please tell me why none of them match up with each other?

In a situation like this, it’s impossible for any one to be right- but it isn’t impossible for all of them to be wrong.

>>23089656
>Men built the west
*White Christian Men

>you are a neet faggot who has accomplished nothing in his life. you are probably a gen Z who has never had sex
lmfao tranny is FURIOUS!

Why you allied with kikes tho?

>>23089603
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/cartel-cannibalism-mexico-says-drug-gang-members-ate-human-hearts-idUSKBN0KF1JX/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ms-13-washington-dc-ms13-murder-stab-behead-rip-heart-out-drug-gang-cartel-el-salvador-la-a8071051.html

>>23089660
t.

>>23089664

>literally worships the king kike
>asks why im aligned with kikes

Nice try shlomo

Also, any Christian’s here really don’t want to know this, but… you know that bible? Yeah, that was made of recycled myths from Mesopotamian folklore. I’m not kidding, your faith is LITERALLY a fairy tale.

>>23089650
But there is no other explanation besides it being true, mass hallucinations aren't a thing, much less have the potential to have the kind of impact it did, this is only explainable by divine stuff.
Denial is not an explanation.

>>23089616
>Don't touch this stove, it's hot and you'll hurt yourself
>Kids touch stove, burns self
>Alright get out of the kitchen
>In fact, no more kids in the kitchen

>>23089669
>mass hallucinations aren't a thing
They sure are

>>23089605
>If I told you my posts were the word of God, would you believe me?

No, the bible specifically warns me of false prophets

https://www.openbible.info/topics/false_prophets

>>23089667
>Kike kike kike look fellow pol users i am one of you kike kike kike
>>Posts literal JIDF propaganda
Rebuttal that you do this.

>>23089672
Used car salesman will warn you about shady used car salesmen.

>>23089674
Kek exactly. They say this nonsense while accepting the Pharisee Saul aka Paul

>>23089674
Bruh your analogy gets more retarded the more you think about it.

>>23089633
There is only God, there is no other god, these other religions are worshiping God just in a different way. You'll find they lead far richer lives than those who choose to not believe.
Again you're flailing, looking for anything that gives you justification for your wickedness, there is only one way out and thats through the love and mercy of God.

>>23089671
Ad hoc.

>>23089678
Post hoc I mean.

>>23089576
Actually, the New Testament *wasn't* originally even written down for quite a while, and the stories of Jesus were passed on orally.

>>23089678
Explain what that means and why you used it to hand wave something you were incorrect about

>>23089678
>>23089679
See
>>23089681

>>23089676
Actually your non-rebuttal gets more retarded the more I think about it.
My analogy is spot-on.

>>23089680
The NT was written before the Talmud was compiled. Funny that these supposed anti-semites never acknowledge that.

>>23089673
obvious hebrew is obvious

>>23089677
Not true, millions and in fact billions of people believe you are wrong, they cant all be wrong. Therefore they are right and you are wrong.

>>23089677

Uh, buddy, there’s a lot of religions, and they are VERY not the same. Like, contradicting each other not the same. What about polytheistic religions? There’s more than “only god” there. If you’re going to post about religion, have the decency to know shit about theology.

>>23089572
What hands wrote the book? Did the book materialize from the sand?
>god was speaking through them
It's just cope after cope

>>23089685
Funny how you appeal to man, a creation of God, to disprove God. Repent.

>>23089686
You're trying to use logic, which God gave you, to disprove God. Use that same logic to see the hypocrisy. God gave you free will and logic so you could come to the conclusion to love him yourself. Repent.

>>23089669
mass hallucination of what? only a handful of people supposedly saw jesus' resurrection. most of it spread by "trust me bro" aka evangelism

>>23089661
It's their only cope

>>23089683
Bruh you're peak midwit.
You're not a part of Christian canon. You're relying on the branding of it to try to pass off a belief you know is bullshit. You're not a shoddy salesman, you're a phone solicitor calling "about your car's extended warranty." The whole distinction between "car salesman" and "shoddy salesman" is funny too - you're acknowledging that there is a large market for used cars that operates legitimately to the point where outliers need distinguished as shoddy, which you, in your analogy, place yourself as being represented by.
Your analogy basically means, in both message and usage, is "I am a liar, therefore you cannot be correct." That's not an argument, it's a self-attack on your credibility.
Midwit.

>>51239780

Holy hell, that logic is more circular than a damn hubcap. If logic. Can disprove. God. Then god. Did not. Give you logic. Therefore. No contradiction.

Also, no you repent, you’ve angered the gods of rational thought.

>>23089688
Gandalf said some bullshit in lord of the rings therefore lord of the rings is true. Yawn. Keep slamming crayons.

>>23089688
>God gave you free will
>gave you
>gave
Which demonstrates it isn't free really and your will isn't free when an omnipotent being has a will that oversees and supersedes yours

>>23089685
>Obvious hebrew is obvious
Uh huh.

>>23089695
Im not reading the pics your posting shlomo go steal some shekels and make an offering to your jew king

>>23089666
>>23089664
These posts were obviously made by christcucks with vpns so they could screencap it. It doesn't pass the smell test, Jews do not shill for paganism. Shapiro and Prager tell people to go to church, Jews want people to spread their lore, and they want people to worship a Jewish messiah even if they don't believe he is their messiah. It's a form of conquest, spiritual conquest. You will deny it's Jewish origins though despite the people of the old testament celebrating passover, observing the Sabbath, and practicing circumcision. Despite the fact the they called Jesus rabbi, that Jesus went to synagogues, and that he observed Jewish custom like circumcision, and that he claimed to fulfill the covenant. Despite the fact the setting is the middle east and not Europe, despite the fact the prophecy tells that Jews will have a partial gardening as gentiles join the faith. Who became Muslim and Christians in droves like the prophecy, or rather, instruction manual foretold, Jews? No, Jews still practice the old customs. Who authored the books, who benefits from having a religion which peaches their stories spread across the globe? Who do actual Christians, not e-Christians, have an affinity towards? Which religious ng's are bringing migrants, who thought it a good idea to preach to foreigners and become brothers in Christ?

>>23089567 (OP)
>I am therefore God is
That sounds like a good complex, very selfish at least.

>>23089692
You're so flustered you can't even get the reply right. Its not circular, you lack comprehension. The point was that logic cannot disprove God only prove him. God created logic and every system you use right now because God is outside of our physical universe. He is not bound to logic, he is not bound to space, he is not bound to time. He needs no cause before effect. If you make a world on your computer are you bound to the rules you apply to the world you made? No, only if you make an avatar in that world, which God did, we call Him Jesus, when Jesus was on Earth he was bound to the logic and space time like everyone else sans the power of miracles, which would be similar to admin rights on your created world.

>>23089696
>I'm not reading your pic
>>23089655
>That tells me it's more likely you just ignore everything that proves you wrong.
Looks like I called it.

>>23089567 (OP)
>Isn't the mass hallucination cope that atheists use against Christians with the resurrection just special pleading?
This is a 120+ post thread about something that isn't real. Nobody rejects the resurrection on this basis.

>>23089567 (OP)
>Science and pure physicalism just leads to suicide

>>23089691
ChatGPT is bad at arguments.

>>23089567 (OP)
shouldn't it be the other way around?
how many first hand historical accounts have been dismissed as "mass hysteria" or "ergot poisoning"
dozens, at least

>>23089700
giving up already thats what i thought sad

>>23089697
Your entire post can be summarized as "It's fake! Jews would never lie!"

>Jewish origins
Explain why the Talmud was written after the Bible troon

>>23089699
>The point was that logic cannot disprove God only prove him
You're confusing logic with personal feelings and opinions

>>23089694
You misunderstand the meaning. You have been given the tools and insight to come to the conclusions on your own. You are instead using them to think you know better because you don't like the idea of rules. Repent.

>>23089693
You'll look for any reason even though the evidence is insurmountable. You will know once your physical form ceases and you are back with God. Repent.

>>23089705
Troon mad

>>23089699

Holy hell, dude. Why are you even trying. If you assert that god gave you logic, that’s outside the bounds of logic, and cannot be proven by logic. It also can’t be disproven by logic. Therefore, it is illogical to say that logic proves god, because no it fucking does not. Learn logic.

>>23089699
what logic is not possible without god?

>>23089699
>Sperg out and say woo woo shit like "god isnt bound to logic" like hes an equipable spell
feigns intellectual sophistication

>>23089703
It is.
You should stop using it.

>>23089708
>You misunderstand the meaning
Nope
>>23089708
>You have been given the tools and insight to come to the conclusions on your own.
But if I choose wrong then I'm punished
>>23089708
>You are instead using them to think you know better because you don't like the idea of rules.
Incorrect. Rules govern my daily life..as with everyone else. I don't see why I need to adhere to your personal feelings about "God" though

>>23089709
no you!

>>23089708

What evidence. I’m not kidding I’ll cut you a deal, you complete troll. If you can give me a single concrete piece of scientific evidence verified by scientists who study science that proves god exists, I’ll stop making fun of your dumb ass on the internet. How’s that?

>>23089666
A clever ruse

The atheist response to this as usual is to disingenuously equivocate beliefs that people died for with witness/experience based beliefs (WEBB) that Christians died for.
Both are martyrdom but you obviously can't use the former as if it's the same as the later.
It's a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation.

>>23089715
No U

>>23089716
spoiler alert you wont get it

>>23089718
Well in the case with this thread is just the belief without even the dying part.

>>23089714
You don't, you need to adhere to the rules God laid out, this has nothing to do with me at all and everything to do with your relationship with God.
You know well within your heart what is right and wrong. You keep choosing to engage instead of ignore me because you feel it pulling on you, God's influence, your hedonistic desires disallow you from believing the truth.

>>23089718
Its post like these that I know OP is here to make fun of Christianity. Keep it up OP

>>23089720

I accept your forfeiture. Now stop telling people to repent in message boards.

>>23089567 (OP)
Anti-theists have their reasons for hating God, it's usually because they fell for one of Satan's tricks, and now they're all butthurted.

Jesus said don't waste your time on them, those who do evil and are proud, are no longer your brothers. They can't be saved.
Only a few will make it to heaven.

>>23089567 (OP)
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>23089717
>Jews
>clever

>>23089684
The talmud is commentary on the old testament, so Christians are cut from the same cloth as Jews because both believe the OT, the difference is that Jews are descendants from the people of OT, not Europeans. So there was a schism, one branch became an ethnoreligion and the other became a universalist religion. Who benefits from this state of affairs? Jews are not threatened in the slightest by superficial religious anti semitism because Christians ultimately want Jews to convert, they have an affinity with them because their religion has the same origins. A real Christian believes Jews made a covenant with God that is still in effect to this day, I will cite the verses if you deny this.

>>23089716
The entire creation of everything is my evidence.
We are here, therefore I am right.
If you can give me one reason thats backed by science verified by science that everything came to be on its own, I'll concede.
(Hint science never describes the why only the how, this is an impossible ask.)

>>23089722
>You don't
100%

Again,
>>23089714
>I don't see why I need to adhere to your personal feelings about "God" though
Why should I?

>>23089567 (OP)
Yes atheist fattard hate supernatural thing, they usually also shill for le epic paganism but believe that pagan gods just a bunch of weather anomaly, no wonder athiest have high suicide rate they were cursed

>>23089729
>The entire creation of everything is my evidence that there isn't a God
>we are here. No God in site, therefore I'm right

>>23089724
They call me nostradamus. Checkmate.

>>23089728
>The talmud is commentary on the old testament
Why you lie, tabbi?

>>23089690
They're in their beginning stages of grief, they'll get over it or go further into psychosis. It's a pretty hard pill to swallow that what you think is tradition is actually controlled opposition.

>>23089732
Doesn't hold up when you think about it critically.
I can't see your thoughts do they not exist?
I can't feel your emotions do they not exist?
I can describe them, I can show them on a brain scan, but I can never experience them as you do, does that mean your experience does not exist?

>>23089734
It isn't a lie.

>>23089729
how do you believe things came into be?
what does the bible say about it?
do they match?

>>23089729

>we are here and i am a huge retard who doesnt know how we got here and doesnt know how anything works therefore god

lolroflkmao absolute cinema

>>23089615
The only good post itt

>>23089716
>Give me evidence of the creator of evidence.
Why are atheists like this? Are you trolling? Are you flaunting the fact that you can speak?

>>23089567 (OP)
None of us can know anything for certain. It is ok to admit that. If you don't think that's ok, for anything, then that's a problem.

>>23089736
>Doesn't hold up when you think about it critically
Sure it does. It's the assumption you use
>>23089736
>I can't see your thoughts do they not exist?
Yes you can
>>23089736
>I can't feel your emotions do they not exist?
Yes you can
>>23089736
>but I can never experience them as you do
Yes you can
>>23089736
>does that mean your experience does not exist?
If I build you a car. You're experiencing a of that. And you can see me bud the car and even help build it

>>23089737
Feel free to look up those verses instead of trying to argue the (supposed) honesty of kikes.

>>23089740
You don't either, enlighten us please since you have all the answers. Please tell me how spacetime came to be while in spacetime.
Its very simple for me, God spoke it into existence and separated the light from the darkness.

>>23089738
The Talmud is the central book of law to kikes, the Torah is their alleged history.
It's a lie, rabbi.

>>23089744
No I cannot, just as you cannot see my thoughts. Very simple test what am I thinking at the moment of typing this sentence? What am I feeling?

>>23089746
>Its very simple for me
Of course it is. Super easy to put God in the gaps.

>>23089567 (OP)
>How else could I be suspended in the air?
>You're a tranny.

>>23089749
This guy gets it.

>>23089747
Talmud is oral discussions that are very old and then later written down
>rabbi
They called Jesus that too
Are you going to call me Moses or Solomon next?

>>23089748
>No I cannot
Why not? You're then suggesting that no one can experience happiness with you. That empathy isn't real? Are you really this shallow?

>>23089734
It's a lie that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the old testament? Anon, why do you think they're called abrahamic religions? If Jews have their talmud, Christians their new testament, and Muslims their Quran, but they all believe in the old testament, that's called a schism. They all come from the same tree in the same way the French, English, Russian, etc. come from the same Indo-European tree. They are all semitic in origin, are Europeans semites?

>>23089756
Can you cite where in the Talmud it says this?

>>23089754
So when you feel happy for someone you somehow are in their mind and body? The happiness you feel when others are happy is still your happiness, it isn't theirs. You can't feel their emotions, you are feeling your own emotions still.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia

>>23089746
>you dont either
Yes dummy but instead of blindly believeing in the most popular god fairytale in your geographic region and sperg out and believe in retarded unproveable fairytale bullshit I can be honest and say 3 simple words: I dont know. And its ok to not know, there are many mysteries in the universe and many things we dont know and probably wont ever know in our lifetime. Please put the crayons down and resist the urge to reply with something as equally retarded as what you said last with something like >well im a dumbass who doenst know anything so if you cant explain everything to me right now that i dont understand about the universe in a way that I can understand than my particular sky god is correct by default"

>>23089753
>Talmud is oral discussions that are very old
You forgot the part where it says Jesus is boiling in shit.
Onkelos then went and raised Jesus the Nazarene1 from the grave through necromancy. Onkelos said to him: Who is most important in that world where you are now? Jesus said to him: The Jewish people. Onkelos asked him: Should I then attach myself to them in this world? Jesus said to him: Their welfare you shall seek, their misfortune you shall not seek, for anyone who touches them is regarded as if he were touching the apple of his eye (see Zechariah 2:12). Onkelos said to him: What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement"

Was that an oral tradition before Christianity you kike?

>>23089758
>So when you feel happy for someone you somehow are in their mind and body?
No dummy. You express it and they in-turn feel it.

Again..why are you this shallow dude?

>>23089760
>You forgot the part where it says Jesus is boiling in shit.
Prove it's talking about Jesus

>>23089755
Christians and Muslims do not believe in the Talmud.
Your comparison is retarded.

>>23089761
Its completely besides the point, I'm done here. Re-read what I wrote I'm not going to reiterate.

>>23089764
>Its completely besides the point
Absolutely incorrect
>>23089764
>I'm done here
I know. You have nothing to argue about

>>23089762
>>Onkelos then went and raised Jesus the Nazarene1
Reading is hard

>>23089757
It's funny how you troons try to pass yourselves off as antisemetic but ALWAYS argue on behalf of kikes.

>>23089567 (OP)
Yes, and it is also due to the fact that atheists and other anti-Christians generally don't understand what Christianity teaches or what the Bible says on even the most basic and fundamental level.
Many anti-Christians seem to think that the Gospels say that Christ was crucified, buried in the tomb, and a few days later some of his followers showed up and the body was gone, and Christians see that alone as "proof" of his resurrection. Most them think that the resurrected Christ was only seen by a couple of people before quickly ascending into heaven and never being seen again.
But the Bible (in many different places in different books of the NT) actually says that the risen Jesus was seen by all of his disciples, and many other people. He continued to meet and teach with them, had meals with them, and spent another 40 days with them before finally ascending to heaven for good, an event the disciples also
Paul lists several different groups of people who saw a living Jesus after his crucifixion, including a group of 500 people, many of who were still alive and could personally testify to that at the time he was writing his letters.
One of the main reasons why Christianity was so compelling to people in that period was because it wasn't just a couple of Jesus's former followers making these claims, it was hundreds if not thousands of people who saw a very active and living Jesus for over a month after his crucifixion and death.

>>23089575
When every other religion at the time teaches about wrathful, borderline demonic gods that will destroy your entire bloodline for the tiniest of slights a religion that teaches of a loving, caring god that invites you to paradise for the low low price of simply loving him back would be appealing to anyone.

>>23089766
>went and raised Jesus
The Talmud never mentions the name Jesus
>poisons the well
Very kike behavior

>>23089763
>your point is moot because you said something you didn't
Most intellectually honest Christian.

>>23089765
No, I'm just done being ignored for the goal posts to constantly be shifted by people who cannot read. Not your priest, not your teacher, not here to be patient with dumb fucks, just here to present the fact that God exists.

>>23089767
>But the Bible (in many different places in different books of the NT) actually says that the risen Jesus was seen by all of his disciples, and many other people
Does anybody say this other than Paul?

>>23089755
A jew named Sol wrote 2/3 of the bible.
Rip out those "Catholic" books that have nothing to do with Christianity and the rest is ok. Sol changed his name to Paul, because he knew nobody would believe a lying jew.
Sol never met Jesus. Jesus never set foot in Italy.
The old Testament isn't about jews.
everybody in the OT had fathers.

Modern jews worship their mother, a father is nothing but whatever sperm the jewess could shove in her hole.

>>23089767
Ive read the bible cover to cover it is a disgusting book of barbarism that teaches nothing and and helps you understand less.
I am not anti christian any more than I am anti astrology, I simply dont believe in astrology because its insanely retarded.

>>23089575
>ow else do you explain the explosive growth of Christianity without it being true
It appealed to slave, of which there were many in the Roman empire. After it caught on with the slaves, it was adopted by the decadent liberal elites who had nothing better to do all day than to moralize at others and pretend like they cared about the poor. After it was adopted by the decadent liberal elites, it was adopted cynically by the more "conservative/capitalist" elites as a ploy to retain their wealth and power under the new social morality.

>>23089769
> בִּנְגִידָא לְיֵשׁוּ הַנּוֹצְרִי אֲמַר לֵיהּ מַאן חֲשִׁיב בְּהָהוּא עָלְמָא
Come on, kike.

>>23089577
>How do you explain the growth of all of the people who love jewish comics and movies if they aren't true?
No one is making the claim or even suggestion that MCU capeshit is anything other than goyslop fiction.
If there were hundreds of thousands of people out there who were claiming that superheroes are real and they saw a superhero doing all kinds of things that only a superhero could do, and that they were so completely sure about all of this that they would be willing to endure horrific torture and martyrdom rather than recant, then that would be a different matter.

>>23089771
you are right and the quran says god will punish the disbeliever al ham doo lee lah!

be gone kaffir!

>>23089569
youre a naive faggot if you think religion isnt inherently political. grow up peter pan. count chocula.

>>23089568
No, anon. Jesus Christ is real, and is God Himself. The evidence is irrefutable. He is the most well-documented man in history.

Jesus Christ is Lord

>>23089774
>Ive read the bible cover to cover
No, you haven't, you lying brown shitskin.

>>23089770
>>your point is moot because you said something you didn't
Literally what you just did.
Christians and Muslims literally do not believe in the same book of law as the kikes.
Your argument's as retarded as saying that people who believe the Holocaust happened and people who know it didn't think the same thing because they can agree WW2 happened. It's a genetic fallacy so stupid I wonder how you shills even think it can fool anyone.

>>23089778
christianity built civilization and the country you ran away to

gostfuckery built a sand shithole nobody wants to stay in, so they all run to christian lands. the absolute gall on you.

>>23089640
One thing that all scientists know, as well as every living human knows, is that everybody who is born eventually dies.
The question that religion seeks to answer is whether or not death is the end of life. Some believe the spirit lives on. Others are satisfied that the blackness of death is a fine destination.

>>23089781
My dad has been a christfag for 20+ years and he was always a smug asshole when anyone tried to level criticism towards his dead jew on a stick book he would say you havent read it therefore you are wrong so i made a point to slog through that shit fest and take notes the only thing i learned unfortunately is that it doesnt matter hwat you do christfags will just shift the goal posts at first its aha well you havent read the bible so fuck you but then you read the bible and it changes to aha but your understand of the bible isnt sophisticated enough like mine basically you guys just get butthurt if anyone disagrees with you

>>23089780
>He is the most well-documented man in history.
How tall was he?

>>23089603
>Conquer the shithole masses
>Immediately feel bad about it because gawd loves us all
>Let them overrun you and turn every single one of your le Christian nations into shitholes
So this is the untold power of Christianity.

Also, are you trying to imply that Mexico is not "civilized"? Lmao

>>23089569
Where does it say this is a politics board? It's a politically incorrect board - that is, anything that is not acceptable in polite conversation, faggarse.

>>23089618
>face the truth
Which is what, exactly, that comes from the Council of Nicea, and not observing living reality?

>>23089787
*Now, not not

>>23089785
>Anti-christian subtly admits his religious decisions were fueled by rage against his daddy

>>23089760
Jews hate Jesus like Catholics hate Protestants, that is to say that it is superficial, they are not fundamentally in dis-alignment because Jesus came to fulfill their covenant, he was their messiah and they rejected him. This is a schism which Europeans really have no skin in. This is what you don't understand, we do not say that Christians and Jews are in complete alignment, and that there isn't an animosity between them, but they do share the same origin, and when push comes to shove Christians will defend Jews because they see themselves as spiritually Jewish. It's like how despite the fact Europeans were always fighting each other, they would come together to fight a common enemy, because we share the same ancestors and when there's an enemy which is too different we come together on the similarities we share, that which we hold more in common compared to the enemy. Christianity breaks this natural racial affinity with religious dogma which asks of you to see everyone as brothers, to co-opt Jewish history, and to worship a Jew.

>>23089791
Just the opposite actually
I read the bible to understand my friends
I read the quran to understand my enemies

>>23089783
when will it work in africa?

>>23089567 (OP)
>science says I can fly and no further questions are asked because the science is settled
>religion is somehow the more skeptical one

>>23089782
Learn to read, I never said Christians and Muslims believe in the talmud, in fact I said they respectively believe in New testament and Quran, but they all collectively believe in the old testament.

>>23089780
You are the one that is delusional.
Jesus didn't pray to himself
Jesus didn't talk to himself
Jesus said "don't call me Christ"
stop projecting your mental illness onto Jesus.

Jesus prayed to God, the Father

>>23089792
>Entire paragraph with no source that handwaves evidence
Funny reach.

>>23089791
He doesn't know how to play the french horn. I call bs.

>>23089606
Millions of people see aliens that Christians on 4chan insist are demons because they can't be otherwise according to your theology. But how can Millions of people be mistaken about what they saw, or if they are, what's to say the same isn't true of those that had these spiritual encounters?

>>23089641
One of His commandments is that you should love your neighbor. Don't get vexated by the beliefs of someone else. Hold true to His commandments:
1. Love God and have not other gods above him
2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself
3. Support the widows and orphans

>>23089796
>I never said Christians and Muslims believe in the talmud
I never said you said that, nigger, I'm pointing out the flaw in your false equivalence in >>23089755.
You are trying to evoke a genetic fallacy to redirect Talmud hatred to two religions
that don't believe.
Actual pilpul on your end.

It gets better when you can use some basic magic in their presence like telechrony, and they still pretend not to hear it

>>23089734
is this quote from the talmud?

>>23089567 (OP)
As if scientists cannot lie or misattribute conclusions from observation any more than anyone else

Disingenuous faggot

>>23089794
i dont give a flying fuck about Africa

>>23089798
You just handwaved an entire paragraph with
>source?!
And you use a screencap from leddit, the irony is palpable. What part do you dispute that you need a source for? Do Christians and Jews not come from the same semitic tree? Do Europeans not come from the same European tree? Would people not align on common ground even if they fight against one another? What about these single arguments do you not understand and need handholding for?

>>23089570
>this guy doesn't exist
>literally the most worshiped man in history, and Jews (canonized 500ad) have spent the last 1500 years trying to fight a dead man
Wow I wonder if he's powerful, like the son of God or something?

>>23089804
The line's source is right there.

>>23089806
so christianity's civilization building abilities only work in Europe?

>>23089805
>picrel
The christcuck reverts to pseudo-solipsism when cornered

>>23089809
you're saying "simoen haddarsen" is in the talmud?

>>23089807
>You just handwaved an entire paragraph
Yes, because you're full of shit.

>And you use a screencap from leddit
I'm posting anti-christian hate from troon subs to show lurkers where you fags are coming from.

>Do Christians and Jews not come from the same semitic tree?
Does the Talmud not say that Jesus is boiling in shit?

>>23089800
Read your Bible and tell us what it says angels look like. Demons are literally everywhere on earth, you can't see them.
Aliens = Angels

>Jews kidnap, rape, and eat children
>Christians don't
It's easy who to pick

>>23089810
I guess that's the conclusion but I don't think it's entirely true.
Point is it worked out for everybody with the founders being Christians.
That's a strawman, picking one end of the spectrum.

>>23089776
Again, the Talmud doesn't mention the name Jesus anywhere

>>23089812
No. That one's bullshit.

Science Simplifed:

Smart person: Bigfoot is real
*Tons and tons and tons of anthropological evidence*
Smart learner who could actually critically think: "Wow, you're right"


Smart person: Bigfoot is real
*tons and tons of evidence*
Retards: You're a fucking idiot why haven't we had a body? Bones? Why is every picture blurry? Why is there only one footprint?

>>23089772
>Does anybody say this other than Paul?
Yes, pretty much everyone. The authors of Matthew, Mark, Luke/Acts, and John all mention various versions of these things, in addition to Paul.
Some atheists claim that Mark never mentions the post-resurrection Jesus because some early manuscripts are cut off after the Marys visit the tomb and see the angel who tells them that Jesus was resurrected, but there are also many early copies which continue for a few more verses involving Jesus being seen by and interacting with the disciples in two separate events.

>>23089817
>לְיֵשׁוּ

>>23089816
>the founders being Christians.
Incorrect

>>23089816
Europe failed because of Catholicism,
The US was founded by Protestants who left Europe because Europe was becoming a shithole.

Why he doesnt like show up again? Thats all he needs to do, until then just looks like Made up things

>>23089821
Again, the Talmud doesn't mention the name Jesus anywhere

>>23089818
So you had not actually checked the quotes that you're posting?

>>23089785
You're still lying, you never actually read the Bible, and it's obvious that the real reason you hate Christianity and the Christian God is because you have unresolved childhood issues and are redirecting the childish, immature anger you still feel towards your father because he made you follow rules.

abrahamic religions all root from the same Canaanite polytheist tribal shit. Yahweh was part of a pantheon with El, Asherah (his wife), Baal and Anat. Apparently there was also a god of death Mot but Anat killed him or something. It's an ancient mythology not unlike any other. The whole idea of taking just one God to represent everything came from Canaanite exposure to Zoroastrians. They then went and retconned their god family to all just be one now. This is why Israel, "the rule of El" actually isn't named after Yahweh. Shouldn't it "Yahweh's Kingdom" or whatever? Because El was a fucking different guy, the leader of the council of gods. The entire thing presented to as >it's holy an infallible because, because it just IS okay!?!? Is pure bullshit.

The average Christian/Muslim/Jew doesn't know that Yahweh has a history as rich and real as the fucking marvel cinematic universe and actually God had a wife and Baal is "a demon" only because he and Yahweh were both storm gods and I guess the ancient proto gods got into a Batman vs Superman fight about which one was cool enough to get upgraded in the lore as all powerful. Many things you see in the old testament is retconned stories all now rebranded as Yahweh's Adventures. So what does that make Jesus? IMO not even really of the same god the Jews worship. Shit is all fake and fucked, not worth wasting time and energy on besides to learn it just to geek out over ancient legends shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U

>>23089820
Does anybody other than Paul claim that large numbers of people saw jesus resurrected?

>>23089567 (OP)
Let's test your christ cuck copery.
Millions of black die every second. They're the most Christian race.
Millions go to heaven.

How do you feel about that?

>>23089567 (OP)
Just look at how much everything gets twisted, distorted, misrepresented about the world RIGHT NOW when we have cameras and internet and shit. I'm supposed to believe that these guys transmitted knowledge across 2,000+ years without it getting corrupted into something unrecognizable? I honestly don't know what the fuck is true anymore. Everyone wants to lie to you

>>23089735
They won't learn the easy way. Their punishment must be more severe.

>>23089825
Nigger pop "לְיֵשׁוּ" into Google translate and stop being retarded.

>>23089826
I don't necessarily care enough to edit a pic I didn't make to remove one fake quote if the rest are legit. The supposedly-antisemites here aren't even concerned with checking the quotes anyway or arguing the texts anyway (like what's happening right now).

>>23089831
The bible was corrupted. We have proof.

>>23089762
They use the term "min" which means "idolator" which is a common slur they use for jesus. jesus actually shows up in the talmud at another point and says that jews are the apple of god's eye. He is still condemned to shit hell for being a freir goy lover, though. jews gonna jew.

>>23089810
again, i do not give a fuck about africa. who said anything about speak chucking niggers

>>23089837
spear*

>>23089575
how else do you explain the explosive growth of Islam?

>>23089833
>if the rest are legit
are they? have you looked them up?

>>23089837
The entire NEW TESTAMENT took place in AFRICA
God have mercy on the retards, teach then to read.

>>23089837
>>23089783
>christianity built civilization
so christianity only does this when it has Europeans available?

>>23089829
>Does anybody other than Paul claim that large numbers of people saw jesus resurrected?
The author of Luke and Acts specifically mentions Jesus being seen by people who were not disciples, and travelling around doing things for another 40 days. Luke and Acts were written by a hellenistic Greek physician who decided to investigate the whole thing and write down an account based on the best available evidence and witness testimony, and is the most historically minded of the Gospels.
In the other Gospels, it often isn't clear when the post resurrection Jesus is just meeting with the core 11 surviving disciples, vs teaching a larger group of followers.
In 1 Corinthians, when Paul mentions the resurrected Jesus being seen by various groups including over 500 people at one point, he is repeating a creed or the teachings being taught by the earliest Christians immediately after the crucifixion, even though the letter itself probably was written about 20 years later. But still soon enough that there would have been many living eyewitnesses to these events.

>>23089773
Modern jews worship the jewish male, they do trace lineage matrilineally but females, even jewish females, are considered cursed creatures and there are countless chapters that discuss menstruation and how it makes women filthy. It's one of the main subject matters of the talmud, really.

A woman on her period is literally referred to as a "Niddah".

>>23089810
lmfao I've seen this argument btfo before.

>>23089842
no it apparently only happens when white men are around, practically all human innovation stems from us. which just so happens to also be our religion.

please jump on your flying carpet and return home to your sand dunes

>>23089843
>Paul mentions the resurrected Jesus being seen by various groups including over 500 people
and nobody else mention anything close to this number

>>23089567 (OP)
Christ is king.

Mohammod is a false prophet and doesn't exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_iD6Lf6MY

>>23089774
>Don't drink or do drugs because family super religious
>Go to religious private Adventist highschool
>The dorm chaplains go on and on about how god talked/guided them, one constantly brings up quitting drugs because of it
>Start reading the King James Bible in the dorm chapel waiting for inspiration or something
>Slowly begin to realize I don't believe any of this
>Realize there are 1000's of similar religious schools teaching different denominations/religions
>Think Its all just adult pretend Santa Clause shit

I feel like if most people read the Bible with out a priest or something "interpreting" it for them most would come to the same conclusion. I notice I still have little ticks though, like if someone has a book on top of the Bible/other religious book I will put them on top because that sorta thing was ingrained in me.

>>23089841
yes im sure the new testament discovered the secrets of metallury too and flew them over my house at nintendo

>>23089813
You're the one lurking on troon subreddits.
>>23089802
I do not even understand what argument you are making, is the genetic fallacy you refer to this post?>>23089728 What I'm arguing is that abrahamic religions come from the same tree, that they all believe in the old testament, but there's differences in so far as Jews additionally believe in the talmud (commentaries on the old testament), Christians the new testament, and Muslims the Quran. That the Jews today are the descendants of the people of the old testament, so while Jews are spiritually and genetically Jewish, Christians and Muslims are spiritually Jewish insofar as they identify with Jewish myth and stories. This identification gentiles have with Jewish myth and stories is advantageous for Jews, especially since Islam and Christianity is universalist, and Judaism is ethnocentric. People align based on commonalities they have with each other, even if they fight against one another they will unite against a common enemy. This causes Europeans to fight based on religious affinity, rather than racial affinity, and to protect Jews based on this religious affinity. Any anti semitism Christians have is of a religious nature and ultimately ineffective, Hitler wrote about this actually, I can show the screencap if you wish.

>>23089845
>this pol post told me
i guess he can fly as well

>>23089570
>2,000 years ago
yet your fag science makes claims of 450 billion years ago. kys.

>>23089849
Christ is king.

Mohammod is a false prophet and doesn't exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_iD6Lf6MY

>>23089845
Christian areas have white Christians coming there to help the blacks, or donating money to them, seems like an argument against Christianity actually. If there's something about Christianity which causes Europeans to feel the need to preach and "save" everyone that is maladaptive, that's a mind virus.

>>23089844
on or off her period, all jews are diseased
God curses them more and more each and every year. The head of a jewish household is not the father it is the rabbi who chewed off your foreskin and made it into a yarmulke for you. If he gave you a cheap kippah and stole your foreskin, shame on him.

>>23089851
you're arguing about the talmud with a guy posting fake talmud quotes he's never read

>>23089820
>Mark never mentions the post-resurrection Jesus because some early manuscripts are cut off after the Marys visit the tomb and see the angel who tells them that Jesus was resurrected, but there are also many early copies which continue for a few more verses involving Jesus being seen by and interacting with the disciples in two separate events.
Proof positive, I will now devote my entire life to the resurrected Christ because of some scraps of Mark which kinda sorta show that it maybe really happened

Are you implying "the dude is actually flying" is even in the top 3 most plausible explanations? You have no idea how retarded this looks to anyone who doesn't already assume magic to be real.

>>23089835
Unbelievably Kek'd

>>23089856
jews worship the jewish male and christians worship the jewish male. The pages of the bible are saturated with mentions of abrahamic seed (Formerly Abram)

>>23089848
God sent Moses to try and turn the Jews back yo the true God.
God sent Jesus to give them another chance.
God said enough chances, ans he sent Muhammad to deal with the jews.

It's all one religion, Muslims even accept Jesus as the coming Messiah.

>>23089852
>Nuh uh!
Wasted digits.

>>23089851
>You're the one lurking on troon subreddits.
It really isn't that hard to find this shit. Literally under a minute

>>23089862
Human beings are too complex to exist without a creator. That's why the most complex being imaginable just exists without a creator and created humans. Flawless logic.

>>23089863
It's not. Look up some good apologetics videos.

muohommad is the false prophet and probably the antichrist

>>23089857
I'm pretty sure the guy is a resident spammer and shill for Christianity, I've seen the same screencaps in other threads. Dude lurks on troon subreddits to pwn the pagans/atheists on pol. What kind of mental break leads to someone like that? Reminds me of the other Christian spammers like the turk and the Dane(?), there's just something wrong with them.

>>23089783
Technically it was jewish capitalism that fueled the colonization of this tard farm, christuckery was just the convenient cover as always

>>23089855
>If there's something about Christianity which causes Europeans to feel the need to preach and "save" everyone that is maladaptive, that's a mind virus.
Troon arguing that colonialism is bad. More news at 11.
Bringing in the idea what whites offloading culture is to blame for the increased literacy and quality of life defeats your purpose, since it defeats the point your buddy was trying to make in >>23089810. Furthermore, you're actively trying to argue that whiteness coincides with Christianity and the spreading of Western values. All of that is telling about why (you) hate Christianity.

>>23089865
Again with the fallacy of equivocation. Awesome ≠ complex. God isn't a contraption.
Ag

>>23089865
>Humans are too complex to exist without a creator
I'm gonna need some sauce on that, but let's assume for a minute that humans are too complex to exist without a creator.
>God is somehow exempt from this rule, and can exist without a creator
Why?

>>23089867
>>23089857
>Troons mad they've been found out

>>23089850
When Jesus met Simon in Congo (Canaan) he said Simon thou art Cephas, black as pitch.

Sol was a racist jew, he din't like that so he scratched out Jesus' words and called Simon a dick in latin that's a Peter.

>>23089570
It was written by people who needed to be told to shit outside the camp, not next to their food.

>>23089870
Are you saying your God is a simple being? I'm thinking of a God that is all powerful.

>>23089871
It's a simple proof that no gods exist.

>>23089872
>muh trannies
just make sure when you quote a tranny that it's a real quote and not some fake meme from pol

>>23089876
OH, I'm retarded. I didn't catch you were being sarcastic.

>>23089871
Design requires designer. You can infinitely beg the question but it doesn't negate the fact that design requires a designer.
And since nothing comes from nothing, there had to be an eternal designer, God.
>>23089875
That's what you were alluding when you labelled God as a complex thing which requires a designer.
The whole concept is an oxymoron.

>>23089876
Bad argument from an accident fallacy.
You concept of a "creator" implies causality, and therefore chronology. If any first mover, "God" or otherwise, made the universe, they would logically not be confined to this.

>>23089808
You could say the same about Caesar and have a better argument

>>23089861
the god of Shem is not GOD

Shem's mother was Namaah, daughter of Lamech, sister if Tubal-Cain. Shem is of the blood of Cain. All Shemites (ASIA INDIA)

Noah's other sons Japheth, and Ham were white.

>>512745578
It's really funny that you want to cry about "muh fake Talmud quotes" while circlejerking someone implying that posting troon screencaps is admittance of being one of you.

Really. I'll give you two seconds to think about that one.

>>23089869
You're really too on the nose with the troon this troon that spiel, you should try being less conspicuous if you want to fit in, before you become a lolcow like the turk and discredit Christianity by being so annoying. You accused me of pilpul but when I explained my position clearly and explicitly you just ignored it, because it's hard to twist words and argue in bad faith when it's laid out so clearly. Now you misconstrue being against preachy fags who want to bring everyone under Christ as brothers, with colonialism, as if the argument was against colonialism. This is irony at it's peak, accuse someone of pilpul while engaging in pilpul, Christians are tragic creatures, too lacking in self awareness to realize how hypocritical they are. The cognitive dissonance is too strong, the mind too broken by a Jewish psy-op too see themselves as the golems they are. They've taken after their Jewish masters so well with their lies and schizophrenic babble.

>>23089879
How can you prove that the world had a beginning? How can you prove that your god of the gaps is related to a random book written by scroll translators 2000 years ago? Scrolls that were translated many times over, each time removing and rewriting portions of the scrolls such that we can never know what the originals actually said. Such mistakes were so commonplace that they were even mentioned in the scrolls that the book was based on.

>>23089902
>I'm not an outsider, YOU are!
lmfao
Let me put it in simple terms while you try to evoke mental gymnastics to try to fit in.
There have been several of (you)r friends that have outed yourselves as troons. You all use the exact same talking points and change your arguments at the exact same time. The simplest answer is that you have some place you're pulling your talking points.

>when I explained my position clearly and explicitly you just ignored it, because it's hard to twist words and argue in bad faith when it's laid out so clearly
No u: >>23089782

>Now you misconstrue being against preachy fags who want to bring everyone under Christ as brothers, with colonialism, as if the argument was against colonialism
The nations in Africa with the highest rates of literacy are all from areas which have had the most contact with South Africa as a direct result of European settlement in the region.
It's the same thing you tried to pull in >>23089796, whining that nobody said an obvious point that you hadn't considered that's inconvenient to your argument.

>They've taken after their Jewish masters so well with their lies and schizophrenic babble.
t.

>>23089945
Meant to post this.
While on the topic and taking my victory lap, it's also really funny how many of you fags think posting "dae posting trannies means you are one" is going to fool anyone (more sad than funny usually, but the same logic implies that your buddy upset about "muh talmud quotes" is a kike, so it's funny).
It literally takes under a minute to find these kinds of examples, because of the anti-christian sentiment being so strong among (you)r communities. Pic related isn't from ANY kind of filtering or searching - it really is just as easy as typing in the url, searching one word, and seeing your friends posting the exact same shit you fags repeat when you raid over here.
The whole thing takes seconds. It's not some secret club, it's a bunch of mentally-ill people projecting their hatred of themselves on the West, and the ideology that founded it.

Yo, hey guys, real quick anyone who wants to invoke the existence of god as evidenced by things existing. What created your god?

You won’t believe that the universe has existed forever, but you will believe that your god, an infinitely more complex being, has existed forever?

Smells like a big pile of fallacy to me. Please, exercise your arguments to its conclusion. When you do so, you will find that god existing is less logical than god not existing.

Here’s the cool thing, though: I actually don’t care that you believe in god. Go ahead, nobody’s stopping you. I WILL tell off you god botherers who think atheists existing is awful and the devil.

Forcing your religious beliefs on another would be quite frowned upon by your god, no?

>>23090014
People hate you and other Christians because you are insufferable. Christians are the most insufferable group on the planet. Not even unashamed murderers are so self-aggrandizing and condescending. There is nothing that can be said about you that won't feed into an undeserved victim-complex. My fear of death and nonexistence is assuaged by the comforting fact that all of existence is temporary -- your ilk will, unlike your claims, eventually cease to be.

>>23090040
>Tranny calling anyone insufferable

>>23090053
There is no afterlife. Your successors will drop your antiquated beliefs in due time.

>>23090119
>REEEE!
Dilate, freak.

>>23090160
Don't you have a child to molest, Christcuck? I'd tell you to go to hell, but it unfortunately doesn't exist.