>>17988474
>theist stating that everything needs to have a creator except god
Isn't that just atheists being disingenuous as usual with the equivocation fallacy?
When a theist says everything has to be created, they obviously mean the universe, spacetimematter because it can't have an infinite past.
Doesn't make sense unless you're arguing for a spacetimematterGod continuum.
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The atheist response to this as usual is to disingenuously equivocate beliefs that people died for with witness/experience based beliefs (WEBB) that Christians died for.
Both are martyrdom but you obviously can't use the former as if it's the same as the later.
It's a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation.
Both are martyrdom but you obviously can't use the former as if it's the same as the later.
It's a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation.
The atheist response to this as usual is to disingenuously equivocate beliefs that people died for with witness/experience based beliefs (WEBB) that Christians died for.
Both are martyrdom but you obviously can't use the former as if it's the same as the later.
It's a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation.
Both are martyrdom but you obviously can't use the former as if it's the same as the later.
It's a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation.
>>17911428
Mohammed and his followers were overtly stated to be incentivized by gains, I don't know how it even comes into your to compare its growth with Christianity's as if they are even in the same ballpark.
>martyrs
With the dubious exception of Muhammed, there isn't a single followers of his who even had supernatural experience, much less something to die for.
Christians died for their witness-based beliefs, again, how are they even in the same ballpark?
Isn't this just a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation?
Mohammed and his followers were overtly stated to be incentivized by gains, I don't know how it even comes into your to compare its growth with Christianity's as if they are even in the same ballpark.
>martyrs
With the dubious exception of Muhammed, there isn't a single followers of his who even had supernatural experience, much less something to die for.
Christians died for their witness-based beliefs, again, how are they even in the same ballpark?
Isn't this just a classic case of the fallacy of equivocation?