Thread 21399895

Oxtail was a hidden gem that us poor folk could eat until it caught mainstream
What is a hidden cut of meat that is good but not expensive because it is under appreciated

>>21399895 (OP)
>What is a hidden cut of meat that is good but not expensive because it is under appreciated
offal, chicken paws, pig's feet, lamb breast, sardines, vienna sausages, pork rinds, and baloney.

>>21399895 (OP)
Beef shank is still pretty cheap

>>21399899
/thread. could throw in swai as a catfish substitute, but the issue being that's it's swai

todays fancy french wine was once for poor people too.

>>21399899
pork rinds are expensive now

>>21399895 (OP)
Chickens thighs are usually pretty cheap and much more flavorful than breasts.

>>21399895 (OP)
depends where you live probably.
I've found the best quality for price is pork loin. really nice cut of meat that's usually cheap. chicken thighs are up there too.
for something real cheap and dirty, chicken gizzards are often overlooked but can be dressed up pretty good.

Huh. Has nobody else ever heard of minced beef?
Americans act like it is some kind of delicacy worth paying a premium price for, as if it was some kind of beef that was marbled with fat like wagyu. I mean, why else would they buy these things at restaurants at an over 500% markup?
And don't even get me started on french fries, Boyfriend. For real, for real.

>>21399895 (OP)
Brisket, pork belly, chicken wings amongst others used to be dirt cheap. The faggots got on board and suddenly they're relatively exorbitant. Sweetbreads, too. Basically give up although >>21399899 shines a little light

>>21399895 (OP)
fucking food tv channels ruined brisket. used to be they couldn't give it away, used to be $1.79lb now it cost almost as much as ribeyes.

>>21400004
minced beef has gotten really expensive lately even at the grocery, at least where I live. I pretty much had to replace it with ground turkey, and sometimes ground pork.

>>21400007
It was possibly TV channels, but it was definitely a clutch of chefs showing off how they could 'elevate' such a cheap ingredient. Then everyone got involved. It's dumbfounding that such genuinely lower grade of cuts could suddenly be so pricey.

I don't buy the trend excuse for price increases. They said the same thing about chicken wings, chicken thighs, pork belly and other stuff. These 'trends' just don't seem to end, the prices never return to normal. It's not like people change how much they actually eat, so surely some other cut would be cheaper now due to less demand, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Blaming trends is a good way to avoid blaming inflation and price hikes.

I feel jealous of all those poor people that can use food stamps to buy things that are too expensive for people like me that don't qualify for food stamps.

>>21399925
this, and it's a similar cut to oxtail but with less marbling usually. you can still make a nice braised roast with it.

>>21399925
the difference is there is way more shank per carcass when compared to an oxtail
if you count foreshank you have even more to work with
one whole oxtail is probably going to provide a family of four with enough meat to eat, probably equivalent to 1-2 slices of shank
if you get about five shank steaks(chops) from a single hind shank, that's ten from hind only per carcass
the fore shank won't yield quite as much iirc, maybe three good cuts
that's about 16 finished shank cuts that are significantly meatier than cut up oxtail, which has maybe 3-4 vertebrae that have any useable amount of meat on them, and the rest are basically just bone
my point with all this is that I doubt shank will be going the way of oxtail any time soone because there is so much more supply, conservatively I would say there is eight times as much available shank meat per carcass when compared to oxtail
I haven't worked as a butcher in over two years but before that I was in the industry for ten years, which included a mixture of regular grocery store boxed meat cutting and true whole carcass disassembly butchery

>>21400013
the prices might increase because of trends, but once prices go up they will never come down. same thing happened during covid. same thing happens during inflation. regardless of what is causing the price increase, it will never decrease once they see they can get away with charging that.

Not telling
:)

>>21400102
Well I will for dickpics lulz ;)

>>21400094
>the prices might increase because of trends, but once prices go up they will never come down. same thing happened during covid. same thing happens during inflation. regardless of what is causing the price increase, it will never decrease once they see they can get away with charging that.
I will never understand how people in second and third world countries can get such cheap food by simply refusing to pay high prices for food. It doesn't compute. How is it that someone selling an essential product will charge less for it instead of letting their disloyal, selfish, greedy customers starve to death?

>>21399895 (OP)
osso bucco

>>21400041

The absolute most that you can get is $300 per month you fucktard.

That’s one singular $10 steak per day, and then have fun starving to death because that’s not nearly enough to survive on

>>21399895 (OP)
penis fish is divine

>>21399895 (OP)
sirloin cap (pincanha)

>>21399970
it might depend on where you live, but where I’m at breasts cost the same as bone in thighs, $2.50-$3 a pound, which makes breasts a slightly better deal since I’m not paying for bone weight.

BEHOLD

>>21399899
Forgot to mention anchovies. Very powerful little fish.

>>21399925
Not near me anymore, they caught on to this too. Literally more expensive than most steak cuts.

>>21399895 (OP)
Chicken thighs and drumsticks are about as cheap as you can get. I can regularly find whole hindquarters for a dollar or less per pound.

The era of cheap cuts of meat is largely over.

>>21400619
>>21399899
I like a lot of these things, but I really wouldn't call any of these cheap.

>>21399895 (OP)
Any high gelatin cuts to make meat jelly, like head cheese or holodets. Feet, hocks, face, ears, and tails are all good.

>>21399895 (OP)
Heart

>>21399895 (OP)
cat and dog
muy Thai ding dong ping pong ho chi minh

>>21399899
Paws? Chicken paws? You mean chicken feet.

>>21400977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qALDxxfrHA

>>21399895 (OP)
Oxtail was unavailable everywhere until it caught mainstream you lying little shit

>>21401289
if i go to the store that has barred windows and entrance with graffiti all over, they have oxtails. you gotta bring your black friend though so you don't get murdered

>>21400525
This. And if you have even a part time job that gets cut down to less than $100. The whole system is fucked. You have to legit be unemployed or homeless to get the $300. I think it's actually $290.

>>21400656
That's about average I think. I buy steaks and roasts when they hit $7.99/lb because that's as cheap as they get. When bacon is $4/lb I load up on it. I get a few corned beefs to freeze whenever there's a holiday sale. And whole turkeys and chickens are always below $2/lb. Pork chops are about $4-$5 lb, so I eat a lot of those too. Pork loin is cheaper but it's so lean and I burned myself out on it. Chops are always awesome.

>>21401311
pork chops are underrated for sure. they get really cheap sometimes.

>>21401296
Nope, oxtail was never available here unless you went somewhere already posh because you're middle class and go to the butchers

>>21399895 (OP)
>>21399899
Chicken heart is absurdly cheap.

>>21399899
yummy carcinogenic food

>>21400982
No.

>>21399899
Offal is fucking expensive per actual gram/calorie. I'm not sure whether that's because it's unpopular though

>>21399970
Thighs are nearly as expensive these days (at least where I am - chicken breast was always expensive but with thighs becoming more expensive and breast having a much lower proportional increase they've basically reached parity when adjusting for bone mass)

>>21399895 (OP)
beef tongue
especially if you cut a big slice off, sear it in and serve it with a wine sauce

>>21399899
sardines aren't cheap anymore

>>21401824
>Offal is fucking expensive per actual gram/calorie.
Imagine in a world where people are so fat they're taking drugs to force them to stop being so fat but they get fat again and form a regular purchase of the slim-down-drugs you're complaining about ultra high vitamin/mineral, inexpensive, and sometimes really flavorful food's calorie density.

Stick to eating little caesars pizzas, its got great calorie per dollar ratio.

>>21399895 (OP)
Araignée (beef)

>>21400656
this is how much it is at my local joint

>>21399970
Paid $0.48/lbs for leg quarters recently. Even with the about 50% yield, that's quite a good deal. Even at their regular price of $0.80/lbs, it's a nice chunk of chicken for the money.

>>21400571
>>21401826
>not paying for bone weight
the bones are valuable though, they make a really good stock. plus you can render the chicken fat from thighs and use that to cook in. you gotta think 3 dimensionally.

>>21402334
Once in a while they have a great deal on chicken quarters. The pain in the ass is using bags to freeze
but just oil and overseasoning the skin, baking for a while, the chickens dark meat is hard to overcook

>>21402347
>The pain in the ass is using bags to freeze
true, that's why I started just cooking them all at once and making soup. I normally prefer using whole chickens, but quarters make a serviceable stock too. cook em normally, let em cool a bit, take the meat off, make stock, use the meat for soup. save the fat that renders while they cook and use it for frying the mirepoix etc. it's a bit of effort but goes a long way.

they're also good for making coq au vin. I'll make a big pot of that and just eat out of it for a few days.

>>21399895 (OP)
I've had this a couple times at a local place cause it gets included in something I actually want. What's the big deal? It's a chunk of cartilage with barely two bites of meat on it.

>>21402395
Do you just inhale food?

>>21399969
Why would you eat them anyway? They taste like the memory of bacon.

>>21402415
They're crunchy, salty, go well with beer, and carb free. They're basically a better potato chip.

>>21401512
you Polynesian with diabetes? it's fine once in a while

>>21402423
>They're basically a better potato chip.
with hot sauce, yeah. I prefer aardvark sauce

>>21401884
beef tongue is like $20/lb where i live, but lamb and pigs tongues are dirt cheap, though they taste like their respective animal, tongue is fucking fantastic meat

>>21400004
What are you talking about ground beef is for poors who don't know what a butcher shop is where I live

Every time I look at red meat at the grocery store it's so expensive I just can't justify buying it. Like I'll maybe get sausage and that's it, everything else is like double the price of any other protein and I don't think it even particularly tastes better. What am I missing here? Is there some secret affordable cut of meat that isn't literal garbage that I'm not aware of?

>>21404021
you're breaking the conditioning.

>>21400013
The trend is 900,000,000 burgeoning middle-class Chinese people that also like chicken thighs, pork belly, and oxtail.

>>21404021
ya know, as a challenge why don't you make those literal garbage actually taste good with technique? try stewing and braising if that isn't in your cooking rotation

>>21399895 (OP)
White people ruined oxtail

>>21404059
>ya know, as a challenge why don't you make those literal garbage actually taste good with technique
Because I want to cook with things that add flavor, not a flavorless tough cut of meat. Thats a waste. Even pork butt is getting expensive.

>>21404021
depends where you live. pork is the cheapest protein where I am by a good margin, and really tasty imo.
beef I think is overrated, I mean I enjoy a good steak but it's not worth the price.

>>21404118
>flavorless tough cut
Thats what stewing and braising is for: tough cuts of meat with little or no flavor. Done correctly it'll make tough stuff tender and flavorless stuff tasty.

>>21401378
post your body lil bro

>>21404118
what >>21404159 wrote...dumbass

>>21399895 (OP)
beef tongue

>>21399895 (OP)
Here in Ireland beef chuck and brisket are cheap as fuck. The people here have been tricked into thinking fat on meat is bad. The 5% fat "ground beef" costs 2x as much as 85/15. 80/20 is very hard to find and 70/30 doesn't exist.
Explains a lot about why Irish food can be so shite lol

>>21404735
The lower fat ground beef is more expensive because you’re getting more meat since the fat just cooks out.

>>21400525
you sound like a r3dditor. fagg9t commie

>>21401311
dad??

>>21399895 (OP)
Offal. Paws. Ears. Hearts. Kidneys. Liver. Stomach.They're delicious when cooked right.

Lots of good fish out there. Quite a few shark species are abundant. You got to shop often though, and buy from fishmongers who buy directly from the harbour. Some nights th fishermen will catch way too many of one species or another and you can buy it at a fraction of the price. 5€ (same-ish in $) for 2kg (4-5 pounds) of fresh fish is a pretty good deal.

>>21400982
Stupid obnoxious faggot trying to correct people on a Lithuanian futanari forum while being so confidently incorrect

>>21405654
but chicken don’t have paws nigga
they have claws at best, but you call them feet, they are not paws

>>21405451
>get called out for bullshit take
>cries reddit
Go back, cunt

>>21400264
Osso bucco isn't cheap; at least not where I live. I wish it was...

>>21404148
Problem is it's unclean bro, like shrimp

>>21400610
I used to live near a Winn-Dixie in 2021, and they'd have chicken quarters for like 25 cents a pound regularly. God fucking damnit do I miss that shit.

>>21406233
You're brown.

>>21406245
you're yellow

>>21406465
nope. pork is the white man's meat. seethe mohammed.

>>21406483
pork is the non-mudslime/kike meat.

I miss when pork tenderloin was ignored. Boomers didn't like it because it it was just meat and not filled with fat & rind. Could buy it for the same price as chicken drumstick. Then those tv chef cunts started using it and ruined everything.

>>21406539
pork tenderloin is still pretty cheap where I am, pork loin too.

>>21404118
>weeb
>defeatist
>stupid
>poor
God I wish you people were quarantined to your own Internet so we didn't have to suffer your dog shit posts
It's not cute, you're a grown man in his 20s (or God forbid 30s) avatarfagging with a little girl.
like holy fucking shit take a step back and look at yourself

>>21406060
You can absolutely live off 300 dollar groceries a month if you don't buy fucking steak every day.
>get other people's money for free
>T-T-This isn't enough! PAY FOR MY LIFE REEEEEEEEE

>>21399895 (OP)
Fuckers ruined beef tongue, now it's as expensive as a choice cut of beef. Normies learned the power of braising and the world is worse off for it

Big food industry prices all meat the same, it's just transport cost. Every part of the chicken is worth the same, it's worth the same as mince, as ground slop, it's worth the same as breast, the bones are worth the same.

I used to be able to afford 4 whole chickens an hour when I started work, and took four whole chicken home to feed the hood. Now I make one chicken an hour, and I might as well buy legs.
I can't get livers at all

there seems to be no way to make top round any good

>>21406724
Probably into MLP as well.

>>21400656
>Literally more expensive than most steak cuts.
For a good reason.
Beef shanks are tastier than steaks.

>>21399899
>chicken paws
feet

>>21399895 (OP)
>Oxtail was a hidden gem
No it wasn't. It's just hipsters driving up price and blacks pretending they invented it.

Cheap food, deals, and savings no longer exist. Now the moment someone finds a good use for cheap food, a thousand tiktok faggots will spam their videos with soyface thumbnails and grocers will instantly pick up on it and adjust prices accordingly.

>>21407411
see
>>21401516