Thread 21401660

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.

90s coffee shops fucking sucked edition

If you're new and confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

If you're old and confused whats the worst cafe you've been in?

Previous thread:>>21391294

i drank the coffee

Ordered a 9Barista and 1Zpressso grinder. Milk isn't a concern of mine and I only plan on making one drink each morning. Please validate my decision.

>>21401632
Imagine trying to give liquid cringe like that a fair chance. I mean to be fair he knew it was going to be shit, every viewer with half a brain cell knew by minute 1, but sometimes it's still entertaining seeing stereotypes affirmed.

>>21401669
The Zpresso is okay, certainly decent value. I'm not so familiar with the 9barista, seems nightmareish to operate at first glance, but it sure looks sexy.

>>21401665
I'm not sleepy right now.

>>21401499
It's better, but that's going to vary. Think of it like craft beer or something. You're getting a product that's "superior" to the normal option, but it may also taste like shit and you're supposed to like it because it's "superior" according to self-appointed internet connoisseurs who will shame you if you say it's bad. Less expensive things get blended so this "bad" quality shouldn't be possible, but they become more "bland" (that is, boring to "connoisseurs" but not to normal people). So try it out, you may find something you like legitimately, or you may just waste a lot of time and money trying to impress 4chan posters.

>>21401699
I splurged on the $200 model with 8 microns per click adjustment. Should be more than enough for properly dialing in.

>>21401499
I'll add this: If you've only had dark roast blends all your life, trying a quality single origin coffee for ths first time, say a medium roast Kenia, can be quite revelatory. It may not taste 'superior', it's more like discovering a new beverage altogether. Fruity roasts taste more similar to tea or fruit juice than generic coffee.

Okay guys, talk me out of quitting my job to open a cafe.

I have entered the advanced stages of cafe delusion where I'm not only daydreaming about my perfect menu, but actually calculating equipment costs and researching the steps to acquire the necessary licensing, insurance and bookkeeping...

>>21401721
start researching how many new restaurants make it

>>21401721
it will fail. It won't bring in the crowd you think it would to be economically sustainable. Honestly, your best bet is to become a money laundering site for organized crime so you can enjoy running a cafe without worrying about actually making money.

tl;dr
unless you have enough money to do it as a passion project regardless of success, dont do it.

>>21401721
Start with a cart or popup.

>>21401716
>Fruity roasts taste more similar to tea or fruit juice than generic coffee.
I will never understand the appeal of this.

>>21401763
I like my top tier coffees to taste of something other than
>brown
>choccy
Pic rel. French roast double ferment double washed gesha.

>>21401763
Would you be shocked to learn that tea is the most popular beverage in the world?

>>21401704
>>21401716
thanks anon i think ill give it a shot
what beans are the most naturally sweet? not artificial flavor-type sweet, but that naturally sweet taste some foods have?

>>21401775
Honestly I think your description of dark roasts as tasting simply of
>brown
>choccy
shows you're not anything remotely like a connoisseur of coffee. Even if you didn't like them, if you had an experienced palate you would not say that.

>>21401778
I like tea as well and drink tea every day.

>>21401784
How many years and how many lbs of coffee do I need to roast to become a
>connoisseur
?

>>21401787
If you're going to tell me now, after your previous act of snobbery, that you claim to have no particular insight or palate regarding coffee, then I think that's all that needs to be said.

>>21401689
why does he spend this whole video moralizing instead of just telling me which one tastes the best it's a fucking taste test give me your opinion
I don't watch internet coffee man for his opinion on randomized control trials and the effectiveness or otherwise of plant medicine
just tell me which one tastes best

>>21401841
Anon they are all dogshit and everyone but you knew in advance. They all taste like dogshit because all of these products are made by scam artists trying to bait health hipsters. I don't know how you didn't catch that.

>>21401721
You shouldn't focus on selling drinks. Work on being a roaster with an online presence. That'll give you way more cashflow.

>>21401845
I've tried the four sigmatic one and it just tastes like nescafe gold
tell me which one is best, I don't care if they are all shit, tell which one is best of the worst

>>21401802
>tea
>fruit juice
:)
>brown
>choccy
:(

>>21401848
isn't the "best" one a cup of normal coffee and a supplement pill
I got bored and turned it off because I'm never drinking any of that shit, but he seemed to be implying that one serving isn't an efficacious dose

>>21401721
50% failure rate for small businesses

iced coffee season is in full swing

>>21402247
Based. What are you sipping on today?

>>21402259
>Based
look at this cool word I use

>>21402261
Not based.

>>21402261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TvxRY0yU5Q

Took apart my Gaggia's boiler today. That was fun and it's not leaking any more!

>>21402362
did you clean it?

>>21402364
No, just pissed inside it to descale using the natural acidity of my urine.

I try new goffee today

>>21402743
it's sideways

>>21402749
Fug

Tried a fancier robusta blend, tastes like a robusta blend

>>21402367
based

>>21402743
had a great cup but its also one of the more expensives coffees ive had recently

Does anyone know what time of day S&W Roasting updates their site on drop days?

>>21402364
Hey anon, sorry for the crude joke, hope you weren't too offended by it, I just wanted to fit in with the 4chan crowd and get a (You) telling me I'm based for doing something gross.
In reality I did clean the boiler. The internal gasket was all crudded up with scale, so washed that with just warm soapy water. And the bottom plate of the top part of the boiler had a bunch of hard scale deposits that I softened with a descaler solution and then scraped off with a knife.
Now I'm more comfortable with working with the insides of the Gaggia, so maybe I'll do one of the more complex mods some day? PID or a full GaggiMate maybe. And I kinda wanna go fix more machines, I heard my friends have a leaking Dedica.

>>21401878
No which one tastes the best, I don't care about the mushroom myths. We get it, the dose isn't enough but which one tastes the best???

coffee mostly taste all the same to me
what's the best method to brew coffee that I can differentiate the tastes

>>21403036
thats ok :)

It's been ~10 hours without coffee. WBU?

>>21403103
12

>>21403103
24, only drink it at work

>buy 7 different specialty coffees
>the first 2 taste, and go through my stomach, like battery acid
5 more to go...

>>21403172
>7
can you list them

*sip*

>>21403172
I hope you can store those before they go stale.

>had no money to buy the refurb mms
>they sold out again
it's over
I guess I will buy a new one later then

>>21403665
that has to be cow dung

>>21403679
:(

why doesn't caffeine work on me?

>>21403172
have you tried grinding finer?

>>21403726
on a K6 i tried going from 100 to 60 clicks and it was still bad, i could try finer...

>>21403712
too little intake

>>21403733
what's your total brewtime?

>>21403733
Grind is rarely that big of a deal (unless your're super coarse or super fine)
what is your water (ml) to coffee (grams) ratio?
Chances are you need LESS coffee in your brew.

>>21403680
>r/indiacoffee
is it a good or a bad thing that they are self-segregating into 'india' subreddits

>>21403773
whatever time the V60 takes to drink the 500g i pour slowly
>>21403797
1:16

>>21403668
>refurb mms
quick rundown?

>>21403043
pour over
>>21403712
genetics
>>21403824
kind of a big dose, what size v60? just doing a single pour? tested your water?

>>21403836
Retard got rid of his coffee machine and constantly posts about not drinking coffee and not buying another one.

>>21403867
it's a V60 02, i do a "bloom" whatever that means with 60g, then slowly 240g, then slowly 200g + swirl a bit at the end. 500g it's for coffees for all day + put it in the fridge for cold coffee

I just got pic rel but my espresso either comes out quickly and watery or super strong and takes like 5 minutes to extract. What am I doing wrong?

>>21403882
>and takes like 5 minutes to extract.
wtf

>>21403882
are you using cement?

>>21403883
Yeah just comes out as a very slow drip/drops

>>21403885
Using this and grinding it myself

>>21403880
yeah thats kind of a large dose for an 02, which just means you need to use multiple pours like youre doing which will lengthen the brew time compared to, say, a single pour in an 03
how long are you letting it bloom? what temp water are you using?
theres so many factors at play in p/o and whether or not/how to adjust them is pretty dependent on the coffee youre using
so unless you provide more information it will be difficult to help you meaningfully
fortunately anon has provided the tools for you to figure it out on your own

PISS
IN
MY
ASS

>>21403822
good because its funny

>>21403712
too much intake

first goff in 23 hours
*ssssiipppp*
damn...
i need to grind finer

>>21403680
Why the hell do poos need a separate sub?

>>21404306
Do you want to talk to street shitters? I don't.

Seeing videos a week later never fails to amuse me, after the clickbait jig is up and the title's changed from "IS THIS THE NEXT BIG THING" to "It's shit"

>>21404488
>after the clickbait jig is up
He's usually completely wrong about something and has to change titles and make corrections in the comments.
>Today we've got the $99 budget espresso maker showdown featuring the Picopresso, Flair Neo, and the $400 Leverpresso pro!

>Hey sorry guys I didn't realize I had the price of that Leverpresso pro. However I still stand behind everything I said and its the best $99 machine at $579.

I got a chinkshit Orea v3 clone (v3 was never officially available in my country), and don’t really trust the plastics. Should I buy an Orea V4? I never could get a negotiator here and wanted to pick up a V4 plus negotiator. Usually I brew with a Timemore B75.

>>21404609
You should get an 01.

>>21404629
Also not going to be available in my country, not even sure why some coffee shops started importing the V4 of all things.

>>21404488
I use the dearrow extension and pretty much every video from non-literal who channels has a fixed non-clickbait title almost immediately after it starts.

>>21403900
What grinder do you have?

>>21403172
i tried 1:15 instead of 1:16 and it come out better, still not perfect

>>21402042
I can beat these odds!

>>21404609
>I use Temu products for food prep

>>21405099
aliexpress but yeah, not smart and I want to toss it.

>>21405121
this meme but on both sides is your picture and the middle is

>>21405133
>is

>>21405121
I always look forward to having some disgusting coffee when I'm on a trip. It makes me pause and reflect that I'm probably clueless about lots of things, the same way normies are oblivious to the fact of how inifinitely better their daily cup could be. I'm only as knowledgeable about 2 or 3 other things as coffee, and there's an entire world out there.

>>21405139
it's a doggy dog world out there

>>21405133
here you go

>>21405165
perfetto

>>21405165
kek

New coffee just dropped

all kettles overshoot why did i just find this out

>>21405285
Everything controlled with a pid overshoots. Better tuned pids overshoot less and rebound/correct faster.

>>21405303
know any of the better kettles?

>>21405343
I've been happy with my stagg EKG for like 6+ years now?

>>21405343
Unfortunately hoffmeme didn't measure the only valuable characteristic of temperature-variable kettles (how accurately they heat water) and instead whined about ergonomics and flow rates, so I guess we'll never know

>>21405165
Nah, the fruity crowd is the midwits (100-130)

>>21405434
>These fruit seeds stop tasting like fruit when I burn all the fruit acids out
Fantastic.

>>21405435
sorry bro I don't make the rules

>>21401721
how the fuck do $3 cups of joe pay $2000 / mo rent bills and wages?

That's over 64 cups per day (8 per hour each day of the week) if you only pay yourself 4k a month.

Good luck wagey

>amazon bots priced down the mm again
>wont have money to buy before the bot increases price again
>slow ass delivery
it's over

>>21403836
I just noticed the official mm store selling refurbs for half the price also saw another store had refurbs in stock
not sure about warranty but considering they are cheaper and I am poor I might consider

>>21403875
I've spent too much money on take away coffee and now my budget is in the gutter it's triple over for me, but this too shall pass

>>21405624
What’s the mm? Link?

Good coffee today.

>>21404629
>You should get an 01.
I have an 01.

>>21405137
today's brew

>>21405514
Owner-operated, so no wages.
Rent would be capped through a special fluctuating contract at 10% of monthly revenue, (you can negotiate with landlords in smaller cities, they're nervous from losing tenants too fast because of the bankruptcy waves). The real issue is actually not the rent, but all the license and insurance bullshit and bookkeeping/tax requirements (the govt are such niggers).
Obviously I'm not in it for the money, I'm a tough bastard, I'll sleep on a matress in the pantry if I have to, but I just can't do the office thing anymore. I'm a Europoor if you haven't figured it out by now, so I would probably be better off just going on welfare than make all this effort, I'd even get to keep my humble savings and stock protfolio, but I just hate the state too much to make the submission. I hate them more than I love coffee and I really love coffee.

Cleaning my cloth filter.

Is there decent decaf out there, or am I doomed to purgatory?

>>21405939
https://www.blackwhiteroasters.com/collections/year-round-coffee/products/r-decaf-colombia
This is good, not great, but good.

>>21405939
what are you looking for?

>>21401660 (OP)
Starbucks with a way overextracted espresso and way too little pumpkin spice, just enough for the first taste and nada afterwards.
Second worst was a walmart where the milk was boiled and tasted like rotten eggs.

>>21405947
I dont know, ive always heard decaf sucks and every day coffee shit sucks.
I was given an old keurig, over the last 2 weeks ive started drinking it like a fiend and craving it all day long. I have to abstain from large caffeine intake, havent had a coffee in 15+ years.

Just saw this thread and am wondering if decaf is going to be worth the effort of higher quality stuff.

>>21405943
Looks interesting, thanks.

>>21405939
>Is there decent decaf out there
no.

>>21405929
Okay my filter is clean. It looks way more bleached than original.

>clean (stained) vs new filter

>>21406183
and after cafiza

>clean (bleached?) vs new filter

Monday coffee in 7 hours

>>21405939
S&W, Sey, and Flower Child all have decaf roasts that are all quite good to my palette
Counter Culture's is decent for grocery store coffee

>>21406183
How often do you have to do a deep clean? How much effort is daily maintenance after a cup? And how much does the taste differ from a paper filter?

>>21405939
Insomnia or cardiac issues?

>>21406748
>grocery store coffee

>>21406869
>not buying le heckin single origin ultra light roasted somalian samurai abloobloo from a local roaster ONLY (remember to tip generously!!)

>>21406748
>Counter Culture's is decent for grocery store coffee
this, they're not bad and they have the roast date on the bag so you can determine how fresh/stale it is. Some bags will be months old, others will be less than a week.

So I brought a Dreo at another anon's suggestion. The milk was really thcik and I couldn't pour any design; I think maybe it needed a lot more swirling than it got. Also is the impeller tip supposed to come apart?

>>21404488
IIRC youtube lets you run multiple titles in parallel, randomly showing people different ones, and then you can choose to keep the one that's doing better in the algorithm.
>>21404715
Nice to see a fellow dearrow user. I think that extension would have more popularity if it's name wasn't so shit

>>21407163
>The milk was really thcik
Welcome to real microfoam.
> I couldn't pour any design
Practice.
>I think maybe it needed a lot more swirling
If it needed more spin, it would be thin. Your milk is thick from all the aeration. You're going to have to play around with what you have available. My local whole milk froths up like paint. Grocery store brands are noticeably thinner.
>impeller tip supposed to come apart?
Nope its one piece(unless they've changed it since the KS). Magnet spins the "impeller" and "screen" while the bigger "fan blades" stays fixed.

>>21407417
Tried again; much thinner. No design happened at all. I think maybe I need to pour faster. I also have to complain to the company that the little impeller tip arrived broken (though usable).

How should I store coffee beans at work

>>21407729
Kino the boomers will love this shit

>>21407729
The best part is that it's plural

>>21407735
>put all your ex-wives ashes in the same earn

>>21407743
Does that count as scissoring?

>>21407701
https://www.amazon.com/Fellow-Electric-Canister-Storage-Container/dp/B0D78LFYQH/

>>21407743
oops urn*

>>21407750
Hoffmeme has a kid confirmed

>>21407808
deranged honestly

>>21407874
Yeah people in the comments are roasting OP for talking and posting that photo. James has always been private about his personal life.

>>21407808
It's hard to gaybait when the jig is already up.

>>21408043
maybe he's on the DL. someone in London should hop on grindr and see if they can find him.

>>21401721
Good luck anon. It's a dumb idea but you've only got one life.
Imo there is a huge market gap for coffee shops that innovate on drink options. Treat it like a craft cocktail bar with well thought-out new beverages instead of fully relying on standard steamed milk drinks.
You could also do what a lot of solid coffee shops do to stay open and just also serve alcohol.

>>21408043
I was never sure if he was gay or just British, but figured he might have been private due to homosexuality. Good on him for keeping his family private.

>>21407808
if he just wore different glasses he would be unrecognizable

>>21408345
>south London brick work

>>21408358
Kek

sleeping so I can make more coffee tomorrow.

gonna make a coffee soon™

>out of money so have to drink one cup a day
suffering

>>21408700
got coffee

>>21408716
Broke ass nigga how is that even possible

>watch video about beginner mistakes when making pour over
>points out mistakes
>uses overly technical terms when explaining how to fix the mistakes
>doesnt explain those terms
>i end up feeling stupid instead of learning anything
I’m just gonna stick with hoffmeme for now

>>21408700
>>21408436
Based

>>21408821
no money

>>21408345
Is it just me or does he look ripped here?

>>21408978
no
it's time for you to hit the gym

>>21408978
look through his recent videos theres one where hes jacked frfr

>>21408716
>running out of beans
>new beans haven't even been shipped yet
>tried to do no coffee on saturday: head splitting headache from caffeine withdrawals
Bros it might be over, I've got like 50g of beans left...

is 45 grams of coffee a day for a human too much?

>>21408992
Do you have a car? Go get some local beans. If they aren't as good, consider it a mild punishment for falling behind, and accept the challenge of bringing out their best notes.

>>21408716
I just found a cheap brand I don't mind too much and tolerate that until I get a job

>>21408999
i'm drinking 30 grams worth of pourover in one sitting right now

>>21408999
i do about 13g of caf in the morning and 14g decaf in the evening

>>21409025
yes, i did 15g in the morning and then 30g pourover for the whole day and to share, but i drank it all myself in like 30 minutes

Had some medium roast I was struggling to enjoy as much as most light roasts. Brought the temperature down to 93c and used a slightly shorter ratio. Very delicious; I’m going to try 91c tomorrow.

>go to shitty cafe
>get over-roasted bitter coffee, tastes bad
>stomach all good

>go to fancy specialty cafe
>tastes like battery acid
>asshole turns into a faucet

what's going on in here? i guess acidity is more dangerous to your digestive system than just killing all flavor by roasting too much?

>>21409012
If you have a membership, go to your local Costco and find whatever beans have a roast date on them. I got two pounds of Two Brothers Sweet Home Chicago blend for $18.99. I found a bag that was 10 days off roast, but did have to pick through for that. If you don’t have a membership, try Trader Joe’s.

>>21409071
Don't got a costco here

>>21408716
250g will give you ~30 shots
Let's assume low-end speciality, $15
$0,5 oer shot, less than Nespresso

Are you living under a bridge or something?

>>21408999
Yes, but you most likely have something else in your diet that's worse.

>>21409070
It seems anon went to anon's cafe
>>21401721

>>21409108
>30 shots from 250g
yeah maybe if you're making tiny single shots
more like 13 18g doubles

so eepy...
but, i can have coffee when i wake up...
:)

i made coffee

>>21409360
how is it?

>>21409370
coarse, rough, and irritating, and gets everywhere

>>21409155
Yeah, well, anon is on a budget, single shots for him.

>>21409370
smooth, jammy, and with a nice body of dark chocolate and lemon zest

>>21408345
That’s so creepy

New beans

cafiza is awesome.

>>21409066
based labeler.

>>21409000
I'm about to have to use my office's super-automatic for espresso tomorrow, it's fucking over

One of my country's most famous paintings is a woman drinking coffee

>>21409807
The White Angel is the most famous Serbian painting, retard

>>21409818
>Serbian
Also I said one of the most famous not the most famous

>>21409822
slovenia is serbia
kosovo is serbia

>>21409834
Bitch there's a croatia between slovenia and serbia

>im not eastern bloc! im serbian.
it all make sense now.
the moccamaster must be a technological marvel to the average serb.

>>21409843
Yugoslavia was never a part of the eastern bloc actually

>>21409844
yes but only a serb would see a difference
which makes it funny.

I got the fellow ode 2 grinder and now all my coffee's taste flat
kinda really neutral

I used to hand grind and the flavors were more powerful before

I mean it's not bad but it's definitely more bland now

>>21409837
croatia is serbia

>>21409855
What part of the world isn't serbia?

>>21409859
the good parts

>>21409859
anything that wasn't ruled by Tito

>>21401660 (OP)
Bros.. I drunk a pumpkin spice latte and turned into a White woman, what do I do?

>>21409973
Bend over

>>21410002
Anon-san..

>>21410002
the hot sorority girls drinking pumpkin spice lattes and wearing ugg boots went extinct in the 2000s

>>21410014
a MILF is fine too

i hope serbanon gets a job and can buy a moccamaster and some coffee

>always used preground for my cold brew because everyone says its super forgiving and a great way to get rid of preground
>on a whim finally make a batch that I specifically ground for cold brew
>made my best batch of cold brew ever
damn im retarded for not doing this earlier

>>21410271
>>always used preground for my cold brew because everyone says its super forgiving and a great way to get rid of preground
this means preground makes bad coffee but if you use it for cold brew its less shit
not that it is best for cold brew and it makes good coffee.

Is there some sort of RSS feed for S&W?

Espresso machine prices are a scam

>>21410702
specially manual ones

>>21410722
If I spend over 1k for espresso that espresso better taste like ambrosia

>>21410724
$300 Flair Classic + 200ish manual handgrinder is all you need to make excellent espresso. But it takes some practice to get it right and it's a bit of a process - 5min if you go at a leisurly pace, 3:30 if you crank the grinder like a maniac.

If you want good espresso AND convenience, 1k is the absolute minimum. Flair58 + a mid-range burr grinder like the Timemore 064S is the next better set-up for value in my opinion (circa 1.2k). Avoid bean-to-cups, they suck.

>>21410702
In Serbia you have to sell your child to afford one.

ahhhh...
coffee
its good
new goffee soon
got 4 bags of some normie blends
i was in the mood for something normal
darker
nutty, chocolate, bitter.
i've been off the fruity train for a few weeks now anyway.
its been good generally
not anything distinct really, like with more wild/fruity cups
more nutty and smooth.

anyone else at that age where you wake up from a dream of you having a kid only to realize you dont?
a wife is never in the dream tho, i mean i know i have one but the dream never features them...

its kinda starting to fuck me up ngl.

>>21410764
show us the normie blends. Also, what is a typical autistic blend?

>>21410724
>If I spend over 1k for espresso that espresso better taste like ambrosia
you arent
in fact you are over time saving thousands on espresso by making it at home with a high quality machine manual or electric.
you are spending at least half per espresso at home than you are at a cafe.
the average cost of an espresso in a major metropolitan area in america is $3.50, meaning if you have just 1 espresso at a cafe per day(most people have multiple per day) you will spend $1000 in 285 days.
so if you spend $1000 on an espresso machine and only make espresso at home you will pay off that machine in less than a year at 1 espresso per day
but more likely you will have 2 which is 142 days, just over 4 and a half months.
so if you plan to have espresso at home you are actually LOSING $1000 a year by not buying a $1000 espresso machine.

>>21410760
If you give me your daughter's hand in marriage, she shall never want for caffeine again, sir, this I can promise!

>>21410778
please, take my trad daughter

>>21410775
>show us the normie blends.
ill show them once they get here and i crack into them.
should be today or tomorrow.
and autists dont have blends they have single origin.

i guess ill show this one.
so normie they dont even say whats in it on the bag.
which they do for their single origins.

also i watched stargate for the first time last night
pretty good.
but also pretty clear that its literally just the Iran-Iraq War/ the Persian Gulf War, complete with arabs grabbing western guns and shooting them into the air as celebration of victory.

have no decent temperarure-controlled gooseneck kettles around $50 hit the market yet?

>>21410815
yes but only cadmium lined ones on temu

>>21410819
Are Temu products actually poisonous? I'm sure they're shit quality, but aren't they just basic amazon and dollarstore products, made in the same factory, sold without an intermidiary? Is a $15 Temu pan really that much more hazardous than a $20 amazon pan?

>>21410821
shh dont use logic here

>>21410815
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BCF4BXHB

>>21410819
>>21410821
the Amazon ones are the same model with the same cadmium, just drop-shitted for a 10x price

>>21410702
GCP is like $400

>>21410776
>the average cost of an espresso in a major metropolitan area in america is $3.50, meaning if you have just 1 espresso at a cafe per day(most people have multiple per day) you will spend $1000 in 285 days.
>so if you spend $1000 on an espresso machine and only make espresso at home you will pay off that machine in less than a year at 1 espresso per day
Do you get coffee beans for free? I don't disagree with you long-term but this is missing a certain cost factor.

>>21410904
>Do you get coffee beans for free?
does the cafe?

>>21410776
>the average cost of an espresso in a major metropolitan area in america is $3.50
I haven't lived in NYC or SF/Bay Area but in my experience most cafes sell espresso for like $2
I just moved to a very expensive town/city and went to a roaster/cafe and it was $5 for a pour over but it was a damn good pour over, they were using an Orogami dripper and a Melodrip and they were using some high quality beans. They were selling the beans for $28 for 10oz.

>>21410904
The idea that getting into home espresso saves money is laughable. My per-unit costs are much lower but I'm also drinking homemade espresso everyday whereas before I was drinking cafe coffee at most 1-2x per week.
It genuinely is a hobby and a money pit.
t. ~1000 dollar setup and go through maybe 30 dollars worth of coffee beans every month

>>21409973
marry a black girl that has electricity

>>21410856
Is that legal? If I buy a bunch of amazon pans, can I send them in for laboratory testing and sue amazon for a million dollars?

>>21410922
>I haven't lived in NYC or SF/Bay Area but in my experience most cafes sell espresso for like $2
i searched for "average espresso price austin texas"
and it said $2-$3.50 so i went on the higher side because that seemed reasonable for a specialty coffee shop and if you are spending a grand on an espresso machine and you are posting here you are likely buying specialty beans even at the lower price range, which would mean it wouldn't be a fair comparison to use the average price of a non specialty coffee shop.
>The idea that getting into home espresso saves money is laughable.
i mean it literally does save money
its like saying you bought only 2 fast food meals a day but now you cook at home and make 5 meals a day so cooking at home isnt cheaper
like ok you changed the variable, no shit it doesnt fit anymore.

>>21410922
>money pit
Only if you have multiple doubles every day, buy outrageously expensive beans, or keep accumulating gear you don't need.
I drink one 50-80 cent shot per day which comes out to less than $5/week or two cafe espressi.

>>21410945
>i searched for "average espresso price austin texas"
>and it said $2-$3.50
Speak of the devil, I just left Austin.
The cafe right by me sold espresso for $2.50
>i mean it literally does save money
You're spending more money on coffee as an enthusiast with a home setup than a normalfag drinking cafe coffee

>>21410950
I switched to doing a triple shot (22g) of coffee every day. Right now I'm working through a 2 lb bag of B&W. It works out to being ~$1.25 worth of beans for every shot of espresso.

>>21401841
>>21401845
Morals are the only way to defend the taste of a peat bog

>>21410954
>You're spending more money on coffee as an enthusiast with a home setup than a normalfag drinking cafe coffee
a specialty cafe uses specialty beans
so if you buy the same price beans you are saving money
im not talking about some dogshit grocery store stale ass burnt to a crisp beans
im also not talking about a normal cafe.

>>21409799
How bad could it be?

>>21411020
I don’t know, I’ll keep you posted

>>21410764
>anyone else at that age where you wake up from a dream of you having a kid only to realize you dont?
>a wife is never in the dream tho, i mean i know i have one but the dream never features them...
Have you been looking for a boyfriend-free girl? Having a kid is truly one of the most satisfying and fulfilling things I've experienced so far in life. Maybe killing an enemy would top it, but short of a home invasion I don't see that happening.

>>21411072
>Have you been looking for a boyfriend-free girl?
nope
im not even remotely in a place where i can juggle a relationship let alone a kid
had a pretty dogshit 8-12 months
and recently gotten a short stint of respite(feels like im getting back on the pain train now) so probably just the body like recovering from stress and exhaustion.
i wasnt really sleeping or dreaming that much anyway.
like 2-3 hours then wake up.
not going to get into it but its an inherited autoimmune disease(not life threatening)
its basically put my life on pause until im out the other side of it.
but at least i can still drink coffee.

also now that im thinking about it my sister is having a kid so maybe its just some kind of subconscious competitiveness.

>>21411020
>>21411033
Honestly not bad. Low 7/10 using beans from a local roaster

>>21409066
91c was pretty good, too. I might have to try using my hand grinder instead of my electric for finer grind control.

Drinking eight o clock in the regular filter Mr coffee. Black.

What peppers do I need to make a pollo Verde that isn't too spicy

At another anon's suggestions I bought the Dreo frother. It seems to be getting the foam texture right, but it doesn't actually draw anything. Is the poring spout not "sharp" enough?

>>21411352
>spout not "sharp" enough
Its not something you're going to pick up overnight. Very high skill cap.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-9nm63LVBJ8
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hsiWuMNAUjs

>>21410758
which manual hand grinder would you recommend for espresso?

>>21411386
Kinu m47.

I'm tired of my shit tier w*lmart scale that only has integer increments and doesn't update in real time, which makes pouring water a pain in the ass. What scale are you using bros

>>21411367
I mean the foam's not even pushing itself forward. Am I pouring too slow?

>>21411563
I have this one (as well as their gooseneck kettle) and I like it
https://www.amazon.com/Greater-Goods-Digital-Coffee-Scale/dp/B09B4CB7C1

>>21411909
>$40
holy fuck i bought it for $20. thanks drump.

>>21411563
Analog scale

>>21411563
walmart weed scale

>>21411563
I'm using a triple beam balance pre-calibrated to my specified target weight.

Bookoo Ultra waiting room
Because the mini is too small

>>21412310
mogged by the normcore for half the price.

>>21412310
I thought these turned out to be dogshit?

>>21405669
the select on amazon

a select on amazon during black week 2023 was 117€ on amazon
>should have bought a mm 2 years ago

What's your favorite coffee?

I bought a DF54 and a Gemilai 3007L from Alibaba last week.
Can't wait, hope I didn't get fucked over. About 750 usd total including shipping and all that.

Next steps: buying a proper scale, a basket, WDT, calibrated tamper, bottomless portafilter... I'm such a soyboy fuck

This goes hard with the Hoffman aeropress recipe

>>21412884
Right now? Wilma Ramon Zamora goes hard.

>>21412885
>Gemilai 3007L
It's basically a GCP with pre-installed PID right?

>>21411991
>holy fuck i bought it for $20. thanks drump.
Mine was 24.99 in December.
Maybe it'll go down for prime day. If it doesn, op can buy a new one and then initiate a return for the previous purchase citing "better price available." Just make sure you send back the brand new one.

>>21412344
Haven't seen anything bad about them online other than they're too small for pour over or two espresso cups. And you can technically use the app to see realtime if the screen is covered

>>21413215
I thought the firmware was fucked on on them. Guess they ironed it out after the first batch.

>>21410931
Based

I drink 100% robusta because I dont want to jerk off about muh fruity tones, I want my coffee to be liquid amphetamine.

I like my coffee black with no sugar. Been drinking it like this since 15 yo.

>>21413616
is robusta more bitter? maybe i'll try it, i hate any acid notes on coffee

i'm gonna make the iced goffee

After brewing with my Clever for a few years, I wanna try conventional pourover. Are there any particular downsides to these over standalone cones? These seem neat.

>>21413620
not always but sometimes
it is generally lower in acidity, with earthy tones
>>21413781
migroblastigs

I have good coffee but my good water won't be here for a few days :(

>>21414143
did you run out of gamer girl bathwater?

>>21412884
burundi

Running out of my decaf and been eyeing the second run of Wilton's Red Bourbon from Rogue Wave...

>>21414183
My nigga wilton benitez doesn't disappoint.

>>21414153
Recreated glacial runoff. Snowmelt is close.
>>21414156
I think I'll deject myself with a little overdeveloped kayanza gakenke.

>>21401660 (OP)
I despise Anthony Bourdain and his entire fart-huffing personality but the lil nigga had the right idea when it came to coffee.

anyone know the exact amounts of the ingredients in third wave water so i could recreate it myself? close approximations fine too.

>>21414570
no but the information is out there
lots of folks make their own formula water
just google it, you can probably find a reddit thread

>>21414583
alright i found something that looks pretty straightforward

>>21414596
coffeewater.app

is synthetic caffeine placebo? because of no coffee I've popped my pills I have laying around
1000mg within a few hours and I literally don't feel geeked off da bean like coffee
is it all placebo? is it all in my head?
maybe I should quit caffeine entirely and just carbmaxx instead
was it all a lie all along?

>>21414711
>1000mg
You are going to have a heart attack, bro

>>21414713
and also my last weeks have been very low caffeine so im not as desensitized as usual, so this should be euphoric in comparison
also no, its been 2 hours since I popped 400mg

>>21414713
I am one step closer to putting in my self remissal to adult psychiatry to get ampethamine meds prescribed
this is too lame, I can't go on like this

>>21414714
>>21414718
You're flying close to the sun according to the FDA anyway. If you gotta get your kick, you might have to try something else. An espresso is like 80mg, a pourover closer to 200.

>>21414711
the experience of drinking coffee (and maybe brewing it too) definitely plays a large part in the energizing feeling of caffeine
psychology is a powerful thing

>>21414711
coffee is digested like a food
so it goes into the blood and brain differently

>>21414728
rookie numbers gotta bump those up

>>21414737
I have never ever felt the same effect from energy drinks or synthetic caffeine as a few cups of strong coffee
can it be purely psychological and placebo?
contrary to quitting caffeine entirely for brief periods and feeling zero energy difference, or rather no crash associated with it also make sense

>>21414758
>both go into stomach
im not snorting

>>21414758
Makes me wonder if taking the pills with something like a fiber supplement would help.

>>21414769
>can it be purely psychological and placebo?
well you cant discount the wide variety of volatile organic compounds present in brewed coffee
both the real (and understudied) physiological effects of these compounds and the importance of these compounds in the production of the placebo effect

>>21413919
>it is generally lower in acidity, with earthy tones
cool, i'll try robustamaxxxing

>>21401660 (OP)
yum
https://youtu.be/34bg_FzIbp8

>get a Kenyan light roast (city- I guess) from a cafe in town
>first attempt at espresso brew is just spray and piss
>end up setting my DF64 to the tightest grind setting to get a slightly turbulent 2:1 shot in 25s
Tastes great, just feels really weird having to grind that fine. Maybe I'll try increasing dose and/or blooming it and see if that smooths out the flow a little more.
It's entirely possible these beans would be better suited to a different brew method, but I'm stubborn.
Anyone here played around with pressure profiles for light roast espresso?

>>21415091
what?

>>21415100
I recommend triple baskets for light roast espresso, having a deeper puck allows for better extraction

>>21415155
Hmmm, I'm using one already (20g dose). I'll try maxing it out and see what happens.

>>21415155
Sure Lance. Whatever you say.

i just use an aeropress for my espresso

>>21415155
>>21415174
Well, the blooming made it very uneven, with large dry spots on the bottom of the basket during the pull. I'm going to try a longer pre infusion tomorrow to make sure the whole thing gets saturated.

Hmmm very robust. Too much extraction.

I'm new to pour over. I have Mugen and some Timemore chestnut grinder

There's just a flavor profile or some sort of aspect about the coffee that is missing when I brew with pourover (aeropress too) compared to a $30 filter coffee machine.
I'd describe it as having no body? It just feels uneven, hollow, like a pronounced peak that taste like coffee but the rest almost like hot water. Wat do?

>>21415231
Based

>>21415468
>>21403773

>>21415492
Around 15 sec pour, 1:30 draw down

>>21415468
Pourover is for third wave fags who want their coffee to taste like tea and fruit juice. Should have bought a french press.

>>21415495
Brew longer. You don't have big fast flowing unimodal flat burrs. You have a small high fines conical. Its going to produce fines. Those fines provide body. Use them.

>>21415520
Thanks I'll try that

>>21415669
>>21415669
>>21415669

>>21401721
Unless you are going to be the best shop in town/area, don't do it. But, if you are going to be the best shop in town/area, then go for it. Life is meant to be lived, not sat on the sidelines like the whining faggots telling you not to do it.