Anyone here ketomaxxing?? I’ve only felt like shit and I miss when I actually had energy. Any good recipes?? I’ve mainly been eating beef and vegs but I crave the bread

Yeah, I eat a lot of badzer cake, delicious

>>21414904 (OP)
>I crave the bread
While nothing beats a fresh loaf of bread hot out of the oven, for low carb, I make mug bread.
Melt one tablespoon of butter in a mug like container. Mix in one egg. Add three tablespoons of almond flour and 1/2 teaspoon of baking powder. Mix (fork mixed is fine). Microwave for 90 seconds.
Tada! Bread.
Like most low carb things, it's a compromise. Don't expect it to be amazing. Adding things like in pic related upgrades it.

>>21414904 (OP)
i tried it for a while because i was told it could help with some health problems. felt tired all the time too. i at least need milk and fruit to actually have some energy.

>>21414904 (OP)
>>21414941
eat the fat, you won't feel tired.

>>21415082
>eat yourself, you won't feel tired.
ftfy

>>21415082
i ate plenty of fat and was still tired. your body likes to have some carbs for energy especially for your muscles. it wasn't helping my health problems and i wasn't trying to lose weight so there was no point in continuing it for me. i felt better adding fruit and milk back in.

most starchy foods seem to cause reactions for me though so i don't eat them as much. or i just try to avoid them sometimes altogether.

>>21415082
I’ve been eating the fats off my meats and it’s nice tasting but that shit can’t supplement the long lasting effect of carbs. I don’t know how carnivore influencers influenced a whole generation to believe all you need is butter and beef to become a strong man, maybe it’s just genetic because I’m a beanur idk

>>21414904 (OP)
I never really felt like shit, but I craved bread and stuff for a couple of weeks.
Once you start burning fat for energy you start to feel full off of less. I have no desire to snack. Even when I smoke weed.
I don't just eat meat and veggies. I eat eggs and nuts and plenty of cheese and I make berry smoothies with yogurt and cream.

I just avoid sugar and bread and pasta and potatoes. And I've lost a lot of weight and kept it off. I have no plan on returning to carbs. I eat a corn tortilla or a little piece of bread now and then when I really want to, but it just doesn't hold the same power over me anymore.

>>21414926
I'll try this. I've made almond flour stevia chocolate cake like that and it's good.
I also just got a recipe for flaxseed bread that's 1g carbs per slice.

>>21415149
>I never really felt like shit, but I craved bread and stuff for a couple of weeks.

My first couple weeks I was dreaming about french fries.

>>21415088
Actually true. With keto your body constantly burns fat so when you're between meals it burns body fat. It is like eating yourself.

>>21415158
I definitely feel way more cleaner now but my body easily felt 2x better when I could enjoy the carbs.

The constant feeling of your body just burning everything and the sodium compensation is so brutal, I normally have to stuff my face to gain any weight so the last couple of weeks have been a mental battles

>>21414904 (OP)
Get almond flour bread to break up the monotony.

>>21415192
Btw I’m doing a keto + anti inflammatory + low iron (haemochromatosis) combined diet which is fucking murder.
You can do standard keto.

god, balding ketolards are still some of the dumbest and most gullible people on the planet lmao.

>>21415196
It only works if you stick with it. Sorry you couldn't manage to stay strong.

>>21414904 (OP)
for what reason are you even on keto? I have tried keto once for about 4 months, it was the most mindnumbing shit ever. you can lose weight without keto, just watch your calories and you can eat whatever you want.

>>21414904 (OP)
keto is hard to lose weight on. Boring. Carbs are fun to eat. No lie, I am fit and have mass, when I need to lose bodyfat, I do an ice cream and chocolate milk diet. So at least everything tastes good.

If youre fit, you can use desserts and carbs to cut bodyfat. Makes cutting a lot easier.

Most people who feel better when doing certain diets, don't feel better because of the diet itself, but because they are making conscious food choices; usually resulting in eating more healthy in general.
They'll eat less processed foods, avoid candy and other crap, eat more fruits, nuts etc...

Problem is that most people are retards and don't adapt their diet to their lifestyle.

If you sit on your ass all day every day you shouldn't eat many carbs. Your body is mainly burning fat when sedentary anyways.
Full keto is retarded, low carb is good.
But the more you're physically active the more carbs you should eat, preferably right before or after said physical activity.
You shouldn't be logging on 25g of carbs. You shouldn't be sitting behind a desk all day on 150g of carbs.

It's really not that complicated.
Are you on a walk, eat an apple. Are you watching TV, snack some meat or cheese but not carbs.
Are you running 5 miles, please stuff a banana and some pasta, you need it.
And please, whatever you do, get enough fiber.

The key with carbs is excercise. We ran around with sticks for millions of years. Today's hunter gatherer tribes eat easily up to 50% carbs but they are moving from when they wake up until they go to sleep. They're burning everything right away.

>>21416178
I’ve been mostly lazy because I don’t have the energy to even move doing a 20g carb limit diet but when I do exercise hard I’m absolutely wiped.

Yeah you’re right though, the discipline and health choices have been great just the aspect of cutting weight can be a journey.

>>21416178
>You shouldn't be sitting behind a desk all day on 150g of carbs.
Your brain burns a good amount of carbs. A quick search says 125g is how much your brain can burn in a day.

>>21417005
This. Frogposter is retarded as usual

>>21414904 (OP)
Keto makes me feel great. Constant stable energy. You either aren't completely cutting carbs or your need to finish keto adaptation.

>>21417005
It can use ketones instead and they are better.

>>21416098
I've done both and you definitely feel less hungry on proper ketosis. If you wanna start dieting and have a hard time getting used to drastically reduced caloric intake I recommend keto for at least a little while, or at least cutting as many carbs as possible.

>>21417075
better how?

>>21417005
Please refrain yourself from partaking in any further discussions around health.
You might not know this because your brain in high on carbs but carbs that you're not burning instantly are converted to fat.
So using your 125g number, your brain would be consuming 5 carbs per hour. That means if you eat a snickers bar (~35g carbs) behind your desk, you have 30g excess carbs that get converted to fat for when you actually need carbs.
If you didn't eat that bar, your body would've simply converted some fat into glucose to fuel your brain.

So your brain is totally fine, you don't need to stuff carbs for that.
Carbs are there for when there's a high energy demand, aka excercise.

>>21417266
>That means if you eat a snickers bar (~35g carbs) behind your desk, you have 30g excess carbs that get converted to fat for when you actually need carbs.
What?

Your body doesn't store carbs as fat very efficiently. It stores fat more efficiently as fat since it's... fat. But only in a caloric surplus. Your body also stores like 500g of carbs for energy as well, and it can just burn it for general energy after you eat, it doesn't all have to be stored. And some energy from carbs gets burned off as heat with thermogenesis.

I like how you immediately went to a Snickers bar as a source of carbs and not fruit or something. Nobody gets fat on a fruitarian diet. Stupid bitch.

>>21417311
> Your body doesn't store carbs as fat very efficiently
What do you think happens with excess carbs you uber retard? It just goes into the magical quantum closet? Excess protein becomes fat, excess carbs become fat. Efficiency is completely besides the point. When not burning carbs it becomes fat, EOL.

> Your body also stores like 500g of carbs for energy as well
You're talking about glycogen storage. After breaking down carbs into glucose it will fill up your glycogen storage, that's correct. This is to free up glucose very quickly when needed. It doesn't do this when you're sitting on your lazy ass. And since your fat ass is eating more carbs than you need this storage is maxed out resulting in turning carbs into fat, once again.

> and it can just burn it for general energy after you eat, it doesn't all have to be stored. And some energy from carbs gets burned off as heat with thermogenesis.
Again, sitting on your lazy ass your body is burning fat, not carbs. The small amount of glucose it's burning is in no way balanced with how much you're stuffing in your big fat mouth.

> I like how you immediately went to a Snickers bar as a source of carbs and not fruit or something. Nobody gets fat on a fruitarian diet. Stupid bitch.
Snicker bar is what you average fat fuck eat instead of fruit. Spiking your insuline all day every day. Apple, whole grains etc doesn't spike your insuline like a Tesla stock. Apple is also full of healthy stuff such as fibers and minerals and you will eat a lot less apples than you would stuff candy. And lifestyle is again a factor as mentioned previously. Somebody on a fruit diet is generally gonna be living healthier overall.

And yeah technically you would survive if you're just stuffing carbs all day and not get fat if you keep the kcal below what you burn, but have fun with your health issues putting your body in panic mode all day. And RIP your teeth. You can do it, but it's not good for you.

>>21417345
>What do you think happens with excess carbs you uber retard?
...it gets turned into fat. That's why I specified "as efficiently". That should've been obvious that I acknowledge carbs can be turned into fat, but still, only in a caloric surplus. Turning carbs into fat is just less efficient than storing fat as fat.

I'm not advocating for a high carb diet, or telling you how many carbs to eat at all. Everyone is different. But I do feel worse without carbs. I'm not keto low but am still somewhere in the vicinity of what some people would call a low carb diet. And I don't have any weight issues.

The only time I really gain weight is if I'm baking a lot of sweets which I avoid, anything with refined fat and refined sugar seems to make me overeat pretty easily. I can easily eat a ton of cookies and drink a huge glass of milk and add hundreds of calories after every meal. The combo of refined sugar and refined fat in a low moisture food is basically the perfect way to become obese. I eat all the fresh fruit I want but generally try to limit or avoid dried fruit too because it's easy to overdo that as well.

>>21416178
>>21417266
>>21417345
kys avatarfag

>>21417385
>acknowledge carbs can be turned into fat, but still, only in a caloric surplus
You realize your body doesn't give a fuck about timekeeping right? It doesn't say, oh damn we got 300kcal surplus today, let's turn it into fat.
No, it says, I need glucose right now or I don't, if I don't I turn it into fat for when I do.

>>21417407
It feels like you're describing overeating but in a more complicated way to make carbs seem bad. Your body will be doing the same thing with fat if you eat more than it needs.

>>21417100
This. You simply get more bang for your buck. But most of us grew up eating lots of carbs and sweets (which is why we're fat in the first place) and they're almost impossible to give up. A lot of people just won't even consider keto. And some seem downright offended by the notion of it to the point they attack people over it. I never thought I'd resort to it and I failed the first couple times I tried it. But once I finally got it right and found a lot of great foods to make and the weight loss happened I knew the hype was actually warranted. It just goes against everything you've been taught and it removes all best junk foods, that's all! Doesn't cause baldness or man tits or anything else negative. Just causes better digestion and energy and sleep and weight loss. Haven't found a single downside besides just missing delicious noodles. And I can resist temptation pretty well. The longer you do it the easier it gets.

>>21417005
I'd rather my body burn body fat than my brain burn carbs instead.

>>21417345
Good posts.

>>21414904 (OP)
I had no energy when I was eating bread and pasta and carbs. Felt bloated and slow all the time.

>>21417416
That's part of it. Fat fills you up and you eat less though, while sugar makes you want more. For people with weight issues it is about overeating, and in my personal experience with fatness I ate more and gained weight when I ate a lot of carbs and I eat less and lose weight when I eat a lot of fat, because apparently at the end of the day with C.I.C.O. it's not a lot of fat. It just seems like it because when paired with carbs a lot of fat is a bad thing. For example, you have a fast food value meal of a double bacon cheeseburger. If I get extra lettuce and tomato and I eat the two burger patties with cheese and bacon and not the fries or bun and no sugary drink, I'm legitimately just as full as if I'd had everything. The greasy meat and cheese and the fiber from the 'salad stuff' is super satisfying and will keep me full. If I ate the bun and fries and all I'd feel sick right after for about 20 minutes, then in 2 or 3 hours I'd be thinking I could go for a chicken burger and fries. That's absolutely how I ate when I ate like that. And because I gave into those cravings I gained a lot of weight. I never knew I could possibly be satisfied with two meals a day and few carbs. But sure enough it actually works. I wish I could still eat everything I wanted but I'm just not active enough and I'd be hungry all the time. Imagine eating a small fast food sandwich and half of the fries. Imagine eating the suggested serving size of Cocoa Pebbles. Imagine if you actually got 2.5 servings out of a box of mac and cheese.
I tried dieting that way over and over. It was fucking HELL. And I never lasted long. Thin people won't understand that. As I will never understand crack addiction.

>>21417311
>Nobody gets fat on a fruitarian diet
Yeah, they just clog their arteries and die at 60.

>>21417496
anyone remember those fruterian vegan horror compilations on youtuber? They deleted them but it was people starting a vegan and fruterian diets and slowly over time they would start looking emaciated, loosing their hair, they skin would wrinkle - basically they started looking like meth addicts.

>>21417441
>For example, you have a fast food value meal
>If I ate the bun and fries and all
Yeah I wouldn't really just consider that "carbs" but junk food. I don't think bread is inherently bad but fast food bread is just white flour and sugar, fries are super greasy and usually dipped in something sugary, and then you probably have a soda with it. Cutting that out is just making healthier choices but if you had water or even something like milk and a baked potato I can't imagine you'd have the same issues after. I used to get stomachaches after eating fast food meals like that but just switching to water and smaller servings of fries made that go away.

>>21417496
Definitely wouldn't recommend a fruitarian diet in general, but it at least shows sugar and high carb diets don't really make you fat inherently.

>>21414904 (OP)
No, I exercise so I don't have to eat like some retard faggot.

This broad beat MS with a paleo keto diet. She figured out a solid way to eat a balanced diet while following a bunch of elimination diet principles. It's geared toward cellular and metabolic health.

>>21417948
>to treat all autoimmune conditions
lol no, aggrandizing hard. not saying it won't work for some people but it's not a panacea.

>>21417954
I'm not saying it is either. This woman was wheelchair bound from MS, and used this diet (as well as extensive electrical stimulation therapy on her muscles), to regain her ambulation. It's impressive, but she is still a grifter. Regardless of that, it's an easy to follow set of dietary principles that work.

I'm posting it here because having a diet which is keto, paleo, and elimination based while still being nutritionally adequate and balanced can help people with some of the pitfalls of keto.

For example, it is a diet plan with three stages. Only the third stage is ketogenic. It is meant to ease a person into an elimination diet, and in this way it is tailored to people who may be suffering from some condition.

To that end, if one follows the diet plan, they would experience fewer cravings and a shorter keto flu than one who just dives right into keto from the standard american diet.

I have used this diet to help me treat not an autoimmune disease but another condition. So I can attest from experience that by following a plan my transition to a ketogenic diet was very easy.