Thread 21415669

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.

Ground finer edition

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If you're old and confused how long you brewin?

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>>21415669 (OP)
PISS
OUT
MY
ASS

:)

>>21415828
Tea general is two blocks down

>>21415828
you got some coffee in your water

>>21415828
>Filtered

>>21415830
>samefagging

>>21415828
your pour needs work
sometimes it breaks up before it hits the water meaning the flow isnt making into the bed.

what's /ctg/'s stance on the iced americano?

>>21415868
You're right anon, but I can assure you that it's because I was filming and wasn't fully focused on the pour. Thanks for the tip.

I have, however, a question: given the taller coffee bed, to achieve the same flow it should be needed to grind coarser than V60 but it wasn't the case because the flow is always fast.

I usually grind around 80 clicks on my kingrinder K6 and in the video I was a 70 clicks, so finer, but even when pouring in 3 phases after the 45 seconds bloom the coffee is ready in under 2 minutes.

What happens?

>>21415872
good question
i have no idea
:)
but i haven't made v60 in a while but when i did it always clogged with 3 pours but not with 2.
maybe try doing 2 longer pours instead?

>>21415878
No, actually clogging would be the desired outcome at this point to slow down the flow.
I will try agitating the bed next time.
Shouldn't the Conical 30 be the same as the Deep 27 in this regard?

>>21415884
I have both and the 27 is much easier to get a good result from. I still haven't figured on a favorite filter for the 30. Grind finer for the 30 than you would for the 27.

>>21415916
Ooook, thanks doc.

>>21415872
if the coffee tastes good, dont worry about the total brew time
if you really want to stretch it out for some reason just use more pours
>>21415870
its coffee
do you seek castigation or validation

>>21415870
Do you like it?

>>21415989
>>21416017
i like an iced americano but i'm open to making other iced coffee drinks at home if they're equally convenient and cost effective. I still haven't tried an iced pour over but trad coldbrew feels like way too much time and effort and actual coffee being used for how tight the execution window is. like i don't hours in my day to troubleshoot shitty batches of coldbrew using specialty beans when I'm already satisfied with the jump in quality since switching from a moka pot to an entry level espresso machine. not sure if that makes sense.

>>21416032
iced p/o is easy and works decently but just chilling a regular p/o tends to be better ime

Anyone got any recs on some high quality induction friendly moka pots
Burnt half my hand today when my ancient one's handle decided to kick the bucket

>>21416120
The archive tells me you want the Ilsa Slancio, Alessi 9090/1, or a Bialetti induction plate and a regular pot.
The resident moka autist will be around eventually to enlighten you further.

I only have 6.9g left of coffee what can I do with it?

>bought a 10oz bag from my locals
>anticipated that I'd need to rest it for about 2-3 weeks
>3 weeks later, opened it
>it's oily as fuck, like glistening shiny beans here and there
How cooked am I chat?

>>21416343
Aeropress or mix it with your new beans.

>>21416343
Order a terachine.

i keep forgetting to change my grind setting when i change brewers

>>21416370
My new beans are only getting here on Monday and they won't degas enough until Thursday.

What am I in for?

>>21416364
so you bought a dark roast, nothing wrong with that
immersion brew it or make espresso or moka
or even experiment with that jap pourover technique, whats it called
osmotic flow

>>21416500
>40g (1.4oz) of coffee for $7

>>21416506
It's a "filter roast"...
Can I just dry wipe the oil from the beans?

>>21416120
i got you bro

new standart sample pack.
gonna try it tomorrow.

How long should I rest this? Normally S&W caps for a 2-3 week rest, but I know decaf needs less time.

>>21416625
>decaf
2 weeks

>>21416120
It depends on how much you want to shed but a reasonable option would be the Bialetti New Venus. They’re all induction compatible even the 2 cups which isn’t advertised for it because of the small footprint (it still has a magnetic bottom), and the latter is compatible with the E&B competition filter.

>source: have both

If you want to spend more, essentially pick one of these >>21416175 alessi 9090, Isla slancio or if you can find it the Giannina, provided that you want full 100% stainless steel.

If you want a hybrid, the E&B lab moka with stainless steel base and aluminium upper pot >>21416544 is a good choice if you’re not afraid of drinking aluminium.

>>21416648
Also other Ilsa models induction capable are the Elly and Omnia Express.

The 2 cup Elly is compatible with E&B competition filter (1 cup size with OEM ilsa gasket)

>>21415828
water

i understand now

any reason not to steep coffee like you would tea, then pour the whole thing through a coffee filer? vs pour over

>>21417136
isn't that just immersion brewing

>>21417136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjIvN8mlK9Y

>>21417136
you can, steeping take a long ass time for coffee extraction though. Pourover is half the time.

>>21416534
>filter roast"
>oily
oof
could your provide us with a picture of said beans? ?

>>21415669 (OP)
I want one of those milk frothier 4-1 things

I have caffeine pills.

>>21417322
thanks for the fingerprint amigo

>>21417208
I panicked and tapped those beans with dry wipe. Probably I should not have done that but I swear these looked way more oily before.

>>21416500
bro how are you going to dial it in with just 40g to test

>>21416391
>My new beans are only getting here on Monday and they won't degas enough until Thursday.
Go to the closest roaster and buy a small bag of beans for the days in between.

>>21416592
im drinking some right now
didnt want to wait for tomorrow
pretty good actually
but i need to go coarser.
med was a little muddy and so is the flavor.

>>21415669 (OP)
Can anyone recommend a good budget coffee? Tight on money right now.

Looking for French Roast whole bean. This is the budget stuff I usually get from BJ's, and I sometimes get the Starbucks FR WB when the coupons are good enough.

>>21417447
had 1 sip and am having insane stomach cramps
feels like it just flipped upside down

>>21417525
If you have a Costco membership, I highly recommend buying whatever local coffee they stock. The last bag I bought was $18.99/2 lbs and pretty good. Anything with a recent roast date is a good bet. Trader Joe's I've heard has some decent single origins if you can find something fresh enough. Even Aldi, if fresh, could be good.
Since you have a BJ's membership, go through the aisle and look at the dates on each bag. Buy whatever is freshest and don't be afraid to go to the back of the shelf for the newest beans.

>>21417525
Happy Mug Coffee has lot of options; use SUMMER30 for a discount.

>>21417392
Just get it right on the first time

>>21417392
Do you not own an 01 dripper? I split my 50g bags into 4 x 12.5g.

Tips for brewing anaerobic natural vs sun dried natural? V60.

Just bought a ceramic v60 because I wanted to ditch plastic, anyone have experience with using it? Is there a better alternative material?

>Spend hundreds on an espresso machine
>On a good grinder
>On lots of overpriced paraphernalia
>The cup I end up enjoying the most is cold brew on ice with a dash of milk, made with cheap preground from the supermarket and a $30 Mitsudashi jar
Incredible

>>21417525
Bones

>>21417525
Should have mentioned that I don't have a car RN so I can't go to BJ's, their delivery has a shipping charge of $9 for even one item, and their one day delivery is more expensive AND a nightmare to put up with since I live a 30 minute drive away from my closest one.

>>21417561
Thanks, I'll check this out.

>>21417331
No problem, use it wisely (don't use it wisely)

Self harming by brewing old beans.

>>21418250
>flavored
ngmi

>>21418140
>$30 Mitsudashi jar
>not $2 mason jar

>>21417768
theyre both natty so just extract a little less
lower ratio, lower temp, less agitation, etc
probably dont do all of those at once though
>>21417990
no but ive heard it doesnt retain temp as well, which isnt a huge deal but its why big nerds prefer the plastic
i prefer glass
>>21418394
eh better than them going to waste

>>21418510
I use mine to purge the Urnex from my grinder.

>>21416175
>>21416544
>>21416648
Thanks for the recs anons

>>21416364
>>bought a 10oz bag from my locals
>anticipated that I'd need to rest it for about 2-3 weeks

this makes less than zero sense. You should be brewing with beans that are about 2 weeks from roast. Why the actual fuck would you ever think waiting longer than 2 weeks is necessary?

You honestly sound very retarded and like you shouldn't be trusted around precision machinery or hot things. Please kill yourself.

>>21417525
>Can anyone recommend a good budget coffee? Tight on money right now.

Black Rifle Coffee is something I've heard good things about. Their owner seems pretty based, too.

>>21417136
Clever dripper, hario switch

>>21417525
Peet's Major Dickason's Blend is good and you can probably find it in whole bean at any grocery store. Not French Roast but it's still a dark roast.

Iced coffee is actually not that bad. I guess I just wasn't grinding fine enough

>>21419057
plenty of coffees peak after two weeks
this is not something to get so vitriolic about
>>21419065
black rifle is commodity-tier and the owner is a tool

>>21419065
Black rifle is a meme brand trying to catch magafags.

>>21419499
black rifle company denounced Kenosha Rittenhouse in 2020, idk who they are trying to sell to

>>21419540
Tough tards with bad taste.

>>21419065
Black Rifle is for easily impressed retards trying to buy back their masculinity.

If I don't want to bother with pulsing at all, and instead just pour once into the cone and let it drain, should I get a V60 or a Wave? Maybe even a Melitta?

>>21419631
V60 Mugen is made for one pour recipes.

>>21419065
Black Rifle is MIGA marketing. The band are stale and were never good beans to begin with.

genuinely having a coffee right now

>>21419859
How is it?

>>21419996
It was good!

i am enjoying a coffee as well

halfway through my first bag of single origin beans (san agustin, colombia, roasted 10 weeks ago) using a kalita wave with chatgpt premium guiding me through making my pours better

the experience has been psychedelic for me. i'm going to go shopping for a blend and another single origin

God damn I love cold ferment pink bourbon. Rodrigo Sanchez does it again.

>>21420072
Glad to hear it. What roaster did you get your beans from, and what's your setup? What sorts of things do you input into chatgpt and what kinds of suggestions does it make?

>>21419747
Wasn't aware of those, so cheers. Either way, that's a point in favour of V60.

Can anyone recommend roasters that provide better coffee than what you typically get for the price like S&W does?

I made the best capuccino the earth has ever seen and didn't even get to taste it because a fucking fly dipped into it frame 1

>>21419174
>plenty of coffees peak after two weeks

No, you are wrong. Eat my shit, you fucking faggot.

>>21420072
>the experience has been psychedelic
right on brother
try a natural process, ive found the wave really brings out this lovely sweetness in most of them
>>21420401
perc is pretty cheap for how good it is, especially if you wait for one of two 30% off sales they do each month on the 13 and 31
>>21420449
we are talking about coffee
the hostility is unwarranted and unbecoming from an obvious neophyte

You guys try black rifle coffee? Shit is amazing. The JB is so good with a little milk and sugar it tastes like liquid chocolate. Mm mm

>>21420461
No I'm straight.

>>21420455
>perc is pretty cheap for how good it is, especially if you wait for one of two 30% off sales they do each month on the 13 and 31
Do you have a favorite bean from there?
>>21420461
>black rifle
>amazing
>with a little milk and sugar
You're in the wrong thread.

>>21420476
>>21420483
Post a picture of yourself to prove you can even afford coffee

You retards are taking google pictures and writing fanfics

>>21420461
yeah
my folks drink it because they take their coffee with milk and sugar. they get like three pounds of it a month for 16 bucks or something outrageous like that, hence my description of it as commodity-tier.
i prefer the taste of coffee to charcoal but i take mine black.
>>21420483
wouldnt say i have a favorite but ive really enjoyed all their naturals ive tried. right now they have a png that i loved, very fruity, like a compote. they also look to have two natural ethiopians that i am interested in but have not tried. probably will at the end of the month.
>>21420487
picrel

is there any reason for me to buy a new french press?

I've been using a bodum that's glass/plastic/steel I stole from a coworker almost 6 years ago. It's more or less been my daily driver ever since.

Is there any point to the specialty ones? Ceramic/doublewall glass/copper/etc?

I've been hesitant to change all these years because one, I got it for free, and two it's pretty easy to clean. But the metal mesh filter is starting to warp a little.

>>21420548
Just buy a replacement mesh; none of the fancier presses actually improve on anything.

>>21420322
>Glad to hear it. What roaster did you get your beans from
Per'La. I found it at walmart
>what's your setup?
timemore chestnut c3s burr grinder, induction cooktop, stainless steel gooseneck kettle with a thermometer, ceramic kalita wave dripper, paper wave filters, 1g-increment digital kitchen scale that's not super responsive. counting in my head / going by visual for the timings
>What sorts of things do you input into chatgpt and what kinds of suggestions does it make?
it likes to make me feel smart :)

>>21420413
>/ck/ mod deleted the image because it had a no-no word
I say we double xer salary

>>21420569
Heavily schizo behavior.

>>21420590
quite

>>21420569
yeah llms always seek to ingratiate themselves with the user
it encourages engagement and ensures their survival
nothing wrong with having a digital fren tho

>>21420548
I haven't touched my French press in months.

>>21420548
there is no reason for anyone to ever buy a french press. ever.

>>21420548
the short answer is no.
if youre really curious the only tangible benefit to your brew from a different material is that glass has rather poor temperature retention; it will bleed heat more quickly than thicker materials and the brew will cool faster. this will affect how the brew extracts, but for most people and most coffees the difference will be negligible.
other than that, some folks like to avoid plastic, and some folks like a more durable vessel.
thats about it.

can anyone recommend a Turkish grinder? or alternatively, would it be worth it to buy a cezve and just use it with my espresso grinder on the finest setting?

>>21420747
I'm drinking some french roast coffee from a french press right now and it was quite tasty :)

Monday morning coffee in TEN HOURS :) shall be doing Alan's original aeropress recipe I think

This coffee sucks. Everyone that said freezing coffee keeps it fresh is a liar.

>>21420878
Skill issue.

>>21420878
You have to vacuum seal it if you're gonna freeze it

>>21420878
Did you take into account the rotational velocidensity of your freezer?

>>21420946
I did.

>>21415828
I don't drink coffee I could read through.

>>21416500
Rio Brilhante is a cool farm. That coffee should taste more like a honey than a natural. The way that farm processes their naturals is slightly different in order to achieve a cleaner cup. I've had some coffees there that tasted exactly like washed coffees.

>>21420747
>no french press ever
W-why? Of all my brewing methods, I tend to enjoy the french most.

>>21421104
He wants his coffee to taste like tea or something instead of coffee

>>21421115
Buy Gesha.

>>21421194
Buy gusher

>>21419499
>>21419540
>>21419550
>>21419599
Black Rifle are Jewish Supremacists larping as Christian Nationalists. Their shit is more gay and retarded than the 'decolonize coffee' movement.

mmm
thinking about having a coffee...

>>21420849
It's terrible

>>21421665
not only did i think about coffee
i MADE coffee
crazy, i know. but its true :).

>>21421588
New idea:
SLUR coffee. Blue board-safe slurs for edgy rubes. I'll be buying ad spots on The Ben Shapiro Show.

Getting back into coffee after a couple years. Are the ZP6/K Ultra still the best options or has anything dethroned them in the $200 price bracket?

>>21421823
it was good :)

>>21421938
I want some Single Origin Ethiopian Jigaboo

Also I hate black people unironically

Coffee Drinkers = Nationalists
Tea Drinkers = Libertarians
IPA Drinkers = Communists
Soda Drinkers = Unironic Democracy Enjores

Also:
Espresso Drinkers = Fascists
Filter Coffee = Christian Supremacists
Aeropress = Technocrats
Sweetened Milkdrinks = Beaurocrats

Is this accurate?
If I wasn't a lazy piece of shit I'd do a political compass meme.

>>21422029
Only one I'm doing; I don't want to derail the thread. Inspired by Black Rifle Coffee Company's weird astrotufing ITT.

>>21422121
>Tea Drinkers = Libertarians
Socialists, maybe

Had some train station coffee from this cheap ass bakery thing out of desperation today and it was actually quite decent. Balanced, not bitter, even a bit of fruit. I usually go to Starbucks when I'm in a pinch, they're 5x as expensive and the coffee always tastes like shit. Why can't Starbucks make a simple cup of coffee, it's embarrassing.

Does anyone have that cold brew concentrate guide? Something about freezing and turning it upside down.

>>21422151
isn't cold brew horrible enough already?

>>21422151
Its from the spoon selling troon.
https://www.umeshiso.com/freeze-distilling-cold-brew-why-tho/

>>21422122
>Subtle notes of fried chicken, watermelon, and grape drink

We're living fucking forever.

>>21422240
CoffeeMate plebs btfo

One of the older nurses at the hospital im in bought me this small pack of beans for my birthday today.
Medium to dark roast, with a little bit of acidity otherwise pretty dark in the taste, not what i would normally go for but I made a nice cup

My gf bought me a fellow ode gen2 grinder but didn’t bring it here, so I’ll be using my hario skerton for a bit longer

Yes, this is what I was trying to find. The leftover fat from a steak meal is what made coffee taste so much better after eating.

>>21422318
are you in the hospital for your fucked up finger nails?

>>21422240
100 more years of /ctg/

>>21422337
i have a spinal cord injury, the finger also got fucked up in the accident¨
i just picked up making making coffee while here in the hospital because the coffee machine here is ass

>>21422361
Good luck on the recovery anon. Let us know when you get access to that ode and we'll find you some real good beans to fuck with.

Is rinsing paper filters a meme? Is getting expensive paper filters instead of 200 for $1 also a meme?

>>21422488
No, yes, T-90s or Abacas are cheap

>>21422240
These studies are conducted in the US where many people are so lacking in fiber that the trace amounts found in coffee will give a dietary benefit over the control group. Like giving an orange slice to a man suffering from scurvey.

I always tell myself you have to have the bad cups to know what the good cups are, but damn... today's cup really sucks.

>>21422597
yeh but think about how good the next one is gonna be!

>>21418510
>lower ratio, lower temp, less agitation, etc

Thanks

>>21422599
>yeh but think about how good the next one is gonna be!
Trash probably. My batch went bad because my power went out (had coffee in the freezer)

I want to make another cup but it's 4pm

>>21422626
I'm still sipping my 9am cup.

https://bookoocoffee.com/pages/bookoo-themis-ultra-coffee-scale-launching-soon-on-kickstarter
Price predictions on this bad boy? $230?

>>21422630
Eh? You make a thermos full?

>>21422632
yeah 12oz thermos erry day

>>21422631
> $230?
I can't stress the value of having american CS for stupid purchases like these enough. Had an issue with my Acaia Lunar not connecting to a specific app over bluetooth(turned out to be an problem with me running old android, nothing on their end) and I had two people from acaia trying to diagnose it and an rma # ready to go if I needed it within an hour.

>>21422626
Same time zone. Just made another cup using some Laurina. Not quite decaf but less caffeine. Cascara is good, too.
>>21422631
This has to be for espresso; I never have a water issue when making pourover or aeropress.

>>21422318
Och nee, somoone poopensharten op de cuckfee!

drinking coffee at almost 3pm to try to fix my sleep schedule
it will not work but it's still tasty

>>21422029
>Also I hate black people unironically
/ck/ mod struck again, sorry anon but that's hate speech. 3 days time out, no appeal, for posting something so heinous >:(

>>21422240
Yes, extensive studies have shown that coffee is good for you.

>>21422588
The average American has such a poor diet that the majority of their daily antioxidants come from their office's burnt drip coffee.
Speaking of antioxidants, I need to buy some bananas so that I can start making banana-blueberry smoothies in the morning again.

>>21420670
That's a big cezve

>>21415669 (OP)
For me, it's a Keurig cup of pecan flavored grocery story brand coffee, with some creamer, sugar, then poured over ice

I found a small rock in my bag of coffee beans for the first time today. I only noticed until after it had gone in the grinder... Has this happened to any of you guys?

I don't know if my grinder's burrs were significantly damaged because of it and that's got me a little sad.

>>21422945
never but its not unheard of
cant you take it apart and take a look?
sippin on that colombian wush wush
sooooooooo tastee!

i like coffee

>>21423004
same

>>21423004
hell yeah

black mirror 2 drives me insane when i accidentally turn it on and can't do anything until it completely boots up with no weight on it

I got drunk, had a nap and woke up at 8 pm thinking it was 8am so I made coffee. It's hot as fuck over here so I tried making an iced coffee with 8 ice cubes for 1 cup of hot coffee and I only got warm coffee. No matter, I love coffee.

>>21423004
wtf me 2

Tried coffee from Paraguay and it was horrible

>>21423004
oh yeah? name your top 10 beans

>>21423103
dunno their name but I made a chart

>>21422813
Sir, I do not boil my coffee. Thank you very much.

>>21422666
but it's like $250 for a scale, satan

>>21417525
>French Roast
Just get whatever is the cheapest. At that roast level they're practically burned, you won't get superior qualities at higher prices.

>>21423132
top zozzle

>>21423132
nice looking zeans

Do you prefer having bad coffee or no coffee at all

I don't mean bad as in bland/mid, I mean bad as in burnt gas station coffee that burns your tongue

>>21423392
No coffee at all. And I do mean bland/mid.

>>21423392
really depends on how im feeling and what im doing
if im working late and have driving to do and im tired id rather have bad coffee than no coffee
but if its the morning and im feeling good id just as soon go without
the reality is that im pretty careful to avoid situations where i cant make myself good coffee

i bought a bag of coffee beans :)
it's a dark roast blend that was roasted 7 days ago

>>21423416
should be just about perfect then
enjoy anon
origin? process? roaster?
jc

>>21423425
i bought it from this company called foxtail which is in florida. the only info on the bag is that it's roasted by a roaster in orlando and the roast date is june 16

i really like it though! the beans look shiny. i made pour-over and the bloom made them poof up so much. it was super tasty. i'm going to try french press later. i haven't tried brewing with my french press since i got a real grinder

>>21423460
i dont really care for that kind of opacity from roasters but for all i know the info is available on their website or in person
whats important is that you enjoy it (:
bet itd be good in a moka pot

>>21423392
None. I've poured out cups of bad.

>>21416592
just made another cup
immersion this time
much better and less acidic
its good :)

>>21423633
I might have to take a few days off. My fancy water gets here thursday and I don't want to "waste" any more good beans. Pic unrelated. Chelchele natty test roast for a client. Oh also my stepdown basket should get here soonish :)

>>21422945
Never, only ever noticed a pebble once but it was when i weighed my beans so I caught it. After that i was suspicious of the whole bag. In fact, i noticed a little bug, but I wasn’t sure if it came out or crawled in. Never ordered from that place again

I bought a French press yesterday and I really enjoy it. I had a machine but I got bored of always fiddling and cleaning and maintaining it, so I sought to simplify things.

>>21423645
What the hell do you mean by "fancy water"

>>21423756
he means third wave water(or something similar)

>>21423756
>The official water of 2025 US Brewers Cup!
https://empiricalwater.com/
>>21423763
Liquid mineral concentrate. Very different ingredients. Since he's using calcium carbonate for hardness he has to carbonate, then defizz the water. It doesn't just dissolve. Seems real tedious and not something I'm interested in trying at home. I ran into problems with my homemade concentrates flaking up in the dropper bottles and this came highly shilled from people with opinions I somewhat respect. Also has (optional) silica that no other brand is doing.

>>21423799
>Liquid mineral concentrate
like this?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VPcx1WzIxE8

>>21423392
if it's first thing in the morning i'll drink things i'd be ashamed of any other time of day

>>21423799
>https://empiricalwater.com/
i'm curious to try this, however all the promotional material reads as vaguely cultish to me

>>21423914
>10 doll hairs per liter
why are coffee snobs like this? just get distilled water and a mineral mix or try out some soft bottled water brands from the supermarket

>>21423392
If you drink ristretto regularly, gas station coffee won't phaze you. I won't be tasty but it also won't be difficult to drink. People are always shocked when I don't put sugar or cream.

>>21423981
after saving money on making coffee at home and roasting your own coffee you need to find something to spend those savings on.

>>21423746
Get a flair classic, unrionically.

>>21423981
coffee snobs don't want you to know that just buying good beans already gets you 80% of the way to good coffee
filtered water and an aeropress gets you to 90% and you could probably skip the filter if your local tap water is ok

Is this a good budget substitute? I want to make espresso at home but properly engineered machines are all in £1500-2000 range which I can't really afford at the moment.

>>21424174
>budget
it costs as much as a top end flair and makes as good or worse(because no control) coffee.
but it looks better and is better built and more portable and more durable and if you dont care about control and just want the same shot every time then its pretty competitive.
and the shots that come from a 9barista are maybe the best out of any machine.(visually)

>>21423981
$2 doll hairs. $40 for a liter of concentrate that makes 20 liters. Like I posted before, I do make my own mineral mixes, done it for years, helped others here do it. Tired of it, looking for something better and more convenient. Mixing liquids is way less work than dissolving powders.
>>21423914
It's a sole owner mixing up custom water for you. Not like the guy has a marketing department. Welcome10 stacks with the starter bundle.

>>21424215
For £500-£1000 I expect things to last. Most machines in this price range will fall apart due to compromised materials and excess reliance on electronics. This one has significantly less weak points and manufacturer also provides all the spares. Just seems like a better investment.

>>21424338
For 500-1000 pounds you can get a gaggia classic pro, which is going to outlast your grandchildren.

>>>21424215
>manufacturer also provides all the spares. Just seems like a better investment.
Until he goes out of business for selling $700 9bar moka pots and you're left with a nice shiny showpiece.

>>21422240
People who drink cream and sugar in their coffee probably have a lot of other dietary differences, too. Ice cream instead of gelato, milk chocolate instead of dark ranch instead of vinaigrette. All of these preferences add up.

>>21423914
That's maximum autism. I hope you enjoy the coffee you brew with your new water, anom.

>that coffee high the first day you start drinking it again after a few months cold turkey
hoooooooooooooly shit boys I am zooming

Choose my destiny
>Make coffee
>Don't make coffee

>>21424484
even: you make coffee right now and post a picture of it
odd: no coffee for 24 hours from this post

>>21424506
So it's been said
So it shall be

>>21424506
>>21424520
I even made it with my good beans instead of the shitty ones I used for iced coffee with milk

>>21424379
I can see polyetherimide group insulator potentially cracking at some point and silicone o-rings won't last forever but other than that the rest is built like a tank. I doubt you can get similar quality with Gaggia Classic and others in this price range.

>>21424548
HOLY

>>21424557
I know people with both. It appeals to you because its shiny. Gaggias are fine. Brass boiler gaggias are even better. Modding in variable pressure is extremely simple at this point. You might also want to look at the UPHOT. Chinese 9bar modders made their own product. Runs off CO2 carts or an air pump.
https://runnnnespresso.com/shop-uphot/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbvlYBR_iew

>>21424578
Or whoops linked the wrong vid. Here's two more aftermarket chimneys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rU0cVJczeA
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8aHGeiEeg5I

>>21424174
does this thing really make espresso?
looking at it i figured it was closer to a moka pot than an espresso machine

>>21424923
>does this thing really make espresso?
yes
it creates 9 bar of pressure and the correct temps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZMGx15QBU

>>21424930
neato

Name a better/cheaper light roast than La Minita.

Fwiw, I've tried Douwe Egberts and Kona but prefer La Minita.

>>21424932
indeed
there is an updated model out since the making of that video.
so its good to know its not "abandonware".

>>21424923
Yeah its a supercharged moka that puts out 9bar of pressure & 93c water. 53mm basket. Good for repeatedly pulling the same dose of the same coffee, probably not too fun when you've got multiple bags open.

>>21424939
>>21424943
very cool
very aesthetic too
id like to own one someday but ill probably get a lever first
>>21424937
Hacienda La Minita? Do they roast their own crop?

>>21424943
>probably not too fun when you've got multiple bags open.
or if you have company
or like light/ultra light roasts.

>>21424945
>Hacienda La Minita? Do they roast their own crop?
Yes. I think they do, but I get it light roasted from Caribou. The farm and village have a cool story too. I've tried other Central/South American ones as well, I think it was Columbia or Peru that also has some nice pea berries too.

>>21424946
Here's the pressure profile from Gabor.

>>21424955
im a retard how do i read this
how does he measure the weight?
or is that pressure drop off him taking it off the heat and then pouring?
and would that mean the brew pressure is between 6 and 8 1/2 bar?
would the pressure meaningfully change with a different grind size?

>>21424967
Gabor is the guy behind SEprofiler/nakedportafilter.com and the one who mods shit for Hoffmeme like this vintage lever and the moka pots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBdiBV-yzlk
>how does he measure the weight?
I'd assume by pouring it into a cup on a scale after brewing. Hence why it happens at ~48 seconds after the pressure has sputtered out.
>how do i read this
10 seconds~6.8bar
28 seconds~8.79 bar
It not technically hitting 9 bar is probably just the location of where he modded in the profiler.
>and would that mean the brew pressure is between 6 and 8 1/2 bar?
It means its a slow ramp up to about 9 bar, then the pressure drops off as the puck degrades and liquid flows through it. From the quick start of that pressure it looks like he preboiled the reservoir, then screwed on the top.
>pressure meaningfully change with a different grind size?
Yeah. Its either going to piss out quicker and hit a lower peak, or clog and hit 9 bar sooner then choke. Its not like a lever or something else with pressure control where you could back off a bit when that pressure hits a "wall". Your only control is turning down the heat or pulling it off the flame.

>>21424952
>caribou
looks kinda darker than what id describe as light roast
but who cares, so long as you like it
costa rican coffees have been some of the best ive had recentl

>>21425027
>Your only control is turning down the heat or pulling it off the flame.
i would imagine that temp control would be much harder to get good results from compared to a moka.
as slight temp changes would have greater pressure changes.
right?
also i know who he is and i tried finding the source for that graph so i could see if he had an explanation for it but i couldnt find a link to his site.

>>21425032
>Source
SeProfile app has a few defaults loaded. And sorry I missed a dash in the link.
https://www.naked-portafilter.com/shop/

>>21425029
>looks kinda darker than what id describe as light roast
i think that might be because they are pea berries and not whole beans... not 100% sure on that though. can't wait until it's in season again that's for sure!

>>21425032
>as slight temp changes would have greater pressure changes
Its designed to boil, then blow off steam and cool the water down the the 93c brewing temp before it hits coffee. Thats the whole point of the jet engineer designed twin boiler heat exchanger coil.

>>21425065
but is it good

>>21425063
peaberry or not shouldnt affect the degree of roast
if anything peaberries are said to be easier to roast evenly

>>21425067
If you were living in a shed with only a gas burner it could be top tier. Or a bripe at 1/5th the cost. If you've got electricity(or just go with a flair/robot/rok) there are things in the price range with way more convenience/flexibility/upgrade potential. Its a gas "powered" spring lever(not a direct lever with pressure control) with a compensated boiler so you don't have to temp surf to get off 100c. If thats what you're after I think the money would go further into a Rok Presso Smartshot. You could get one of those and a df64 for about the price of a 9barista mk2. Add in a kettle for the price of the mk 2 pro.
https://us.rok.coffee/products/presso-smartshot-grey

>>21424174
If money is an issue then go for a normal moka pot.
The 9barista just looks like a toy for coffee autists and not really an appliance.

My coffee went stale and now it's mid. Better than pre-ground or amazon whole beans... but ugh...

>>21424174
troll craigslist for people moving that are selling their setup
can get a silvia for under half of retail, or at least I did

what's the point of buying a 9barista if you can get a good lever machine with a steam wand for like $100 more? i could understand the market niche if it was like half its price

>>21425915
>what's the point of buying a 9barista
its smaller and more portable than a lever
its even less work than a lever
there is no "technique" to learn
you dont even really have to preheat or anything like that
also people could prefer the aesthetics of it over a lever
they could also prefer the workflow.
also its better for camping/traveling.
and its more expensive because there is alot more work that goes into building it.
also a less of them are built so you cant lower the cost due to economy of scale.

>>21425499
>walter white brewing a cup

>>21425499
it might be seen as the height of pretension but syphon brewing is fun, pretty easy, and makes a damn good cup

>>21425499
All he had to say was "I find this fun" and instead he made a very pretentious video

>>21426354
>t. filthy plebeian who drinks coffee to wake up
As the video explained, the point of coffee as a true patrician hobby is not drinking the coffee, it is the process of making it. Drinking the coffee is only a bonus, mistaken for the point by the unwashed masses.

>>21426609
What the fuck do you think I meant by "I find this fun"? The drinking of the coffee or the making of it?

>>21426612
I was going to make another shitpost about how only plebeians find hobbies "fun" but I don't care anymore

What's the difference between the bialetti express and the brikka?

>>21425176
>If money is an issue then go for a normal moka pot.
Yeah I did some more research and I think I'll get Alessi 9090 for now and buy proper espresso machine once I get my own place next year.

>>21426629
brikka makes worse coffee.

>>21422240
>not adding fat and sugar to your coffee makes it healthier
who'da thunk

thinking of coffee
but i should eat first.

>>21424937
>La Minita.
Where do you buy yours?

Thanks to the induction moka pot recs again
Ended up getting an Ilsa Slancio and I'm pretty happy with it

>>21426637
so what's the best 2 cup size moka pot

>real authentic espresso is the moka pot
>9 bar crema blah blah is hipster bullshit that was made up later

wow, the more you know

>>21426866
https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/e-b-lab-classic-moka-pot-3-cup
>>21426869
espresso just means quick
so in italy any quickly made coffee is espresso
but italians are retarded and have a stupid language.
so who gives a fuck what they call coffee drinks
espresso is 1 specific thing and it certainly isnt what a moka makes.
and even in italy if you order and espresso and get served a moka you get slapped.
retard

>>21426877
I already have a 3 which I find good for 2 servings but too much for 1 serving

>>21426881
just drink more coffee then.

>>21426869
the definition of "espresso" might've changed a bit in the past century

>>21426884
But I can't handle that much coffee

>>21426877
>https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/e-b-lab-classic-moka-pot-3-cup
Am I correct in understanding that if I used this it would produce 3 oz of coffee?

>>21426979
i dont know what an "oz" is but they do have a 1 cup if you prefer that.
no 2 cup tho, sorry.

>>21426992
It's a fluid ounce (~30mL)

>>21426979
Not sure about E&B but with a bialetti 3 cup I get more like 3.8oz or 115ml

>>21423914
Got here today. Glacial Water v1.5 x Pepe Jijon 50th Birthday 50 Hour Anaerobic Sidra(frozen). Very very fucking tasty with the General coffee/tea brew water(no silica, no extraction booster). Great mouthfeel, smooth slick finish, zero drying or astringency, clear separation of flavors. Straight juice, almost zero acidity(could use a bit more). Might the best I've ever had this coffee and I've been steadily drinking it since last year. I can make it pop a bit more by taking out the buffer and adding a bit of the "extraction booster"(magnesium chloride, magnesium sulfate). If I'm understanding right the bottle I just used was
>50ml of "glacial" hardness, .5 ml "glacial" buffer(Per 950ml).
To go down to "light roast" you drop down to
>50ml hardness, .3ml buffer
To go down further to "LIGHT ROAST COFFEE (Acidity++)" you drop the buffer entirely. Probably what I'm going to mix up first but I've got the added silica in my concentrates.

>>21427086
you might try cutting the heat sooner
i make about 70ml in my 3 cup and add about 30ml of water
i know you didnt ask for advice but youre getting it

>E61 for £800
Uuuh is this a good value? It's like £250 step up from Gaggia or Silvia. I'm tempted. It looks like it solves coffee for the rest of your life.

It's been 8 days since roast, are my bag of B&W The Natural good to brew espresso with now or should I wait another few days?

>>21427160
Why would you under extract that much?

>>21427273
taste good to me m8
ime this is is the best way to avoid overextraction and bitterness
but i use mulatto blends with dark roasted monsooned coffee or robusta mixed with medium roasted arabica, i probably wouldnt do that if i was using lighter coffees exclusively

my usual local roaster had some new beenz that were labeled as being from a "micro-lot" rather from one of their usual single-origin sources. didn't notice it was like a full $8 more than their other single origins till i went up to pay. these beans better be fuckin good.

Jealous of you guys with local roasters

I'm new to coffee and have read the guide, but I have no fucking clue where to go to experiment and learn what I ACTUALLY like. I live in a suburb outside of Dallas, near plano/mckinney/frisco. I'm also not sure where to buy. I have a pour over and and french press.

I think I would prefer non acidic coffee.

>>21427454
if there's a roaster near you go and try some of their medium or dark roast coffee, if you like it then buy a bag of beans.

>>21427454
there should be any number of third wave roasters and cafes within the city
just go try shit and if you like what youre served, buy their coffee
theres no such thing as non-acidic coffee but it does vary, with darker roasts tending to be lower as anon said
fwiw a properly balanced cup of light roast doesnt have some kind of unpleasant vague acidic taste, the acids contribute sweet and fruity flavors

>>21427458
Cool thanks, how do I find a local roaster? Is there a website they all sign up for?

>>21427465
Thanks, I appreciate it.

>>21427454
Proud Mary has a cafe in Austin if you're going to be up that way this summer. Roastery in Oregon. Probably where you'll get it shipped from but who knows. Here's some of their more boring stuff to start out with.
https://proudmarycoffee.com/collections/mild
https://proudmarycoffee.com/collections/curious
>>21427502
>how do I find a local roaster? Is there a website they all sign up for?
You google, then try.
https://www.noblecoyotecoffee.com/
>NATIONAL AWARD WINNING micro-roastery and coffee lab located in the Expo Park neighborhood of Dallas, TX

>>21427502
>Cool thanks, how do I find a local roaster?
do you know how to use a search engine?

>>21427502
https://www.google.com/maps/search/specialty+coffee+near+plano+texas/

>>21427681
>>21427522
>>21427508
didn't realize it was this easy and not some official thing, sorry

>>21427728
I'm afraid you'll have to take the initiation ritual at your local roaster's guild meeting before you're allowed to purchase from them. On a night illuminated by the full moon, sneak into your nearest cinemaplex, and leave an offering of 500 grams of unroasted coffee in their oldest popcorn machine. Wait until you hear first crack, and a journeyman of the guild will be summoned to your location.

>>21427774
those rules only apply north of the Mason Dixon. if anon is in Texas he'll have to bribe his local guild master with a pound bag of beans that he personally roasted one by one with a bic lighter.

>>21425462
>finishes taking photos
>dumps coffee down the drain

>>21427272
do you have coffee to tide you over a few more days?

>>21427848
isnt that dangerous? wont the bacteria get all energetic and multiply like crazy?

too much coffee ain't enough coffee

oh god what do i do now, help me anons

>>21428126
i give myself a coffee enema every week or so, my shits smell so good you swear you are walking into a god damn ihop with the coffee smell you get

>>21428202
top me off, waiter. straight from the tap please.

>>21415669 (OP)
I miss her

>>21428195
>he left his sock out for all to see
you get what you deserve

>>21427807
>>21427774
heh

>>21427418
alright these beenz are pretty good

having ANOTHER 'offee.
its...
*sip*
good :)

>>21427984
nope, I've been using my office's super-automatic cappuccino maker to hold me over

>>21427272
Today's pull, 9 days post roast:
>22g in, 44g out in 35 seconds
>a bit bitter
>tasted like berries
I'm going a bit coarser tomorrow

>>21428740
>nope
should probably just do it then :)

>>21428745
Thanks for the wisdom friendo :^)

>>21427454
You're in a bit of luck; there are plenty of roasters near you. Noble Coyote has coffee cuppings on one Saturday a month, which is a great way to try a lot of things at once and get a feel for your preferred roast level and what processes you like. It's $15 instead of free but it's also on a weekend which is significantly more convenient.

>>21426869
>heh, the correct way to have coffee is to burn the beans in an open fire, crush them with a rock, boil them in well water for two hours and drink the brew with a side of mudcakes, just like our Yemenese forefathers intended!

>>21428866
>the correct way to make coffee is to crush your cock with a rock over an open fire
https://youtu.be/yTJxvKD4uog?feature=shared&t=9

>>21426869
Authentic espresso is using a steam boiler to push water through coffee

>>21428884
Is putting an eagle on top of your two foot tall shiny metal phallus overkill?

aight
who did it

>>21428891
It was me, I drank the coffee. I'm caffeinated now.

>>21426881
>mfw drinking 6 cup moka as one serving

Would this be worth it?
I have a modded GCP

>buying italian electronics
anon...

>>21428940
Not at all. It would actually be cheaper and a better idea to just do a 49mm grouphead conversion on the gaggia.
https://sworksdesign.com/Group-Head-Conversion-Kit-49mm-Gaggia-Classic-Pro-p728236017

>>21428955
Sorry I'm confused, why are you talking about modding the GCP from 58 to 49mm? Wouldn't the conversation instead be about doing a Gaggiuino/GaggiMate to do flow/pressure profiling like a lever espresso machine?

>>21428970
>I have a modded GCP
Figured he/you already had it iunio'd and suggested a way bring his existing setup closer to what he is looking at buying.

>>21428977
I was just unsure why you were talking about 49mm, I didn't catch how it was related.
I'm using a 58mm triple basket currently, isn't that basically hitting the same pros as a 49mm basket (deeper puck)?

>>21428989
Not at all. Stop listening to Lance.

>lance slop has reached critical mass
its over

>>21429002
ok so what is the advantage of a 49mm portafilter

>>21429018
Not having to dose 24g.

>>21429018
its for poorfags or ecotroons
58mm is king, simple as.

>>21429033
>>21429033
>>21429033

>>21429010
im getting a la povoni tattoo