yea or nea?

>>21439178 (OP)
They changed the pasta years ago, it goes from hard as a rock to mush in seconds now. I just stopped buying it

>>21439178 (OP)
the idea of it sounds great but itsnt it freeze dried minced meat in a packet ?
ive never tried it but ive thought about buying a crate/box

>>21439178 (OP)
only retards need help with their hamburger

>>21439254
>freeze dried minced meat in a packet ?
You supply the meat yourself

>>21439280
oh. well, thats a big fucking let down, i thought it was like dried meat you add milk/water to for hydration.
so its just mac and cheese? why the fuck is called hamburger then?

>>21439178 (OP)
Not available in my country, so..NAY.

Stealth ulililililia thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlZd9YSuDg

>>21439178 (OP)
Good shit, although, I don't even think they call it "cheeseburger macaroni" anymore. The only one I see available is called "double cheeseburger macaroni" (don't know the difference).

You do have to jazz it up a bit. I add copious cayenne pepper, black pepper, jalapenos, and a couple slices of American cheese.

I also like Tuna Helper.

But the key with Hamburger Helper and Tuna Helper, is you never go to far off the beaten path. The more exotic the flavors, the more it will suck. Lasagna Tetrazini Hamburger helper is garbage, for instance.

Stick to the regular flavors and it's the bomb.

I know it's considered white trash cuisine, but it's a hot seller for a reason.

>>21439254
>>21439280
>>21439288
I think it's *fucking wild* that people don't know what Hamburger Helper is. I guess they don't have it in Europe.

It's so commonplace with American working class families that I sort of assumed it would at least be commonly available in places like Western Europe and Australia.

My babysitter gave me hamburger helper once and I think I considered it the best thing I had ever tasted. My parents never gave us much processed food so it was kind of like the joke of giving a Victorian child a dorito. And hamburger helper was probably just better back then

>>21439288
Hamburger Helper is a box of dried noodles and powder. You usually add beef, milk, butter, and water; and cook it up. It's fucking great! Tastes delicious.

Tuna helper is the same thing except you use tuna instead of hamburger.

Both are pretty great. It's an easy delicious meal. Not so healthy, but whatever, just don't eat it every day.

The safeway brand is way better, has a good flavor and the pasta doesn't turn into complete mush.

>>21439288
Because it helps your hamburger turn into a full meal.

>>21439178 (OP)
I also like Tuna Helper.

>>21439453
Americans are cooklets confirmed

>>21439483
you don't cook for yourself
you order uber eats and have some pakistani deliver it

>>21439288
It's for people scared to have a bag of noodles and a spice drawer in their home.

>>21439483
Nah, dude. I cook the fuck out of made from scratch meals. I **usually do**.

But there's nothing wrong with boxed meals on occasion.

>>21439483
True. Both of my parents couldn't cook for shit so hamburger helper was always welcome over stuff like steak stewed in canned tomatoes and onions.

>>21439288
>why the fuck is called hamburger then?
It's not called hamburger it's called hamburger *helper*, as in it helps your hamburger. It's a box of noodles and a packet of cheese sauce powder that you add to the hamburger to turn it into something of a meal in a single pot in under 30 minutes.

>>21439178 (OP)
>tfw grew in in Merricka
>in the 80s, 90s, 00s
>never had an Hamburger Helper™ once
what did I miss bros?

>>21439448
Nope, as an Australian I always assumed it was a breadcrumb mix for cheaply adding bulk to hamburgers - this tracked with the fact that I knew it was poor people food. Then I found out what it was and I make a from scratch version on occasion, weirdly I did last night.

There is confusion globally as well as I think only in the US is 'hamburger' a sort of meat.

>>21439535
Not much. Frankly it's worse than just mixing ground beef into kraft mac & cheese.

>>21439535
Nothing much, desu. It's just ground beef with some kind of pasta in a cream or cheese sauce. You can make something like this yourself fairly easily. I think the novelty was in the convenience and that its reputation as a "budget" meal comes from the fact that ground beef used to be cheap.

>>21439547
yeah in Straya Hamburger Helper is a filler. It's basically breadcrumbs, salt, onion flakes, and (I think) powdered milk.

I actually use this from time to time for quick n' easy meatballs or meatloaf because it does taste very nice. It has no overlap in purpose with American Hamburger Helper

>>21439178 (OP)
>Meant to help you with hamburgers
>End up with Mac and cheese instead
Bit shit innit

Fat me would say yea. I used to combine cheeseburger mac in a bowl with rice and corn and keep eating more until I ran out of space.

>>21439178 (OP)
The best hamburger helper is homemade hamburger helper.

>>21439761
>homemade hamburger helper.

>>21439547
>only in the US is 'hamburger' a sort of meat.
Meanwhile they have an autistic breakdown when you mention chicken burgers. Kek

>>21439178 (OP)
It's good, but with the price of beef being what it is these days I usually use either diced up hotdog or tuna.

I recently came in to possession of a few boxes of those elbow noodles and some minced beef. If I were to so far as to try to create this without using the box, what kinds of additional ingredients would be required and in which order should I combine everything?

>>21439761
>>21439766
Hamburger Helpless

>>21439557
Wish we had that in the US. Some of the best hamburgers I've had were made using onion, breadcrumbs and eggs, kind of like a mini-meatloaf.

>>21439276
Fuckin hamburger wizard over here never needed help with anything!

>>21439178 (OP)
Its always worse than i expect.

>>21439822
It's easy enough to do if you have a pantry of crumbs and dried onion etc. But yeah, as someone who prefers to cook everything from *scratch* I honestly make an exception here, I love dumping a packet of White Wings into my ground meat. Pickerel.

>>21439547
>There is confusion globally as well as I think only in the US is 'hamburger' a sort of meat.
Hamburger is a sort of meat. Same way steak is.

>>21439851
It's just mince.

>>21439843
Frogposters all need help.

I got a recipe for how to make it from my virtual assistant Poe and had him convert it into european units for you guys. No need to thank me, just doing my part to help out.

Ingredients:
225 g elbow macaroni
450 g ground beef (mince)
100 g shredded cheddar cheese
500 ml beef broth or water
250 ml milk
1/2 onion, diced
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 tsp paprika
1 tsp salt (adjust to taste)
1/2 tsp black pepper
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1/2 tsp onion powder
1 tbsp ketchup (optional for a touch of sweetness)
1 tbsp mustard (optional for tanginess)

Instructions:
Cook the Ground Beef (mince): In a large skillet or pot, brown the ground beef (mince) over medium heat. Add the diced onion and minced garlic, cooking until the onion is translucent. Drain any excess fat.

Add Seasonings: Stir in the paprika, salt, black pepper, garlic powder, and onion powder. If using ketchup and mustard, add them now.

Add Liquid: Pour in the beef broth (or water) and milk. Stir to combine.

Add Elbow Macaroni: Bring the mixture to a boil, then add the elbow macaroni. Reduce heat to a simmer and cover. Cook for about 8-10 minutes (I think this is 8-10 bings?), stirring occasionally, until the pasta is tender and has absorbed most of the liquid.

Add Cheese: Once the pasta is cooked, remove the skillet from heat and stir in the shredded cheddar cheese until melted and creamy.

Serve: Taste and adjust seasonings if necessary, then serve hot!

Enjoy your meal!

>>21439853
Yes, Nigel. That's what british faggots call ground beef, or hamburger. You might call it 'Minced Beef', but no, you have to be cutesy with your phrasing. That's just as detested here as when lazy cunts refer to mashed potatoes as "mash".

Fuck You.

>>21439862
Every European country calls it mince in their language. Why would you call it hamburger? That's just retarded. Just because you use it for hamburg steaks? That would still be dump as frikadelles are even older.

>>21439816
Make a beschemel sauce, some cheese if you'd like, savory herbs and spices. Maybe add in a little sour cream or ranch spices to give a little tang.

Its not difficult, but to make it fresh takes a bunch of somewhat pricey and not shelf stable items like dairy. This is the reason Hamburger was such a prolific product for the last several decades. A dried seasoning packet to add some milk and butter to makes a serviceable dinner for a middle class family.

>>21439866
In American English hamburger and ground beef just mean mince. We call it mince in our language too, no need to be an antisemantic

>>21439178 (OP)
Basically I go years of not eating it and then buy like 4 meals of it

>>21439866
It doesn't have to make sense to you. America runs the fucking world. So it's inches and yards and miles and gallons and no unnecessary Us in words and it's fucking hamburger or ground beef, not fucking mince. What WE Americans call things is more important just like our media and culture and military and economy dominate the world too.

Fucking "mince" is out. Condolences.

>>21439866
That must be why you posted in whatever garbage language you speak and not english.
Oh wait.

>>21439873
>>21439878
Nobody has a problem with ground beef. Only hamburger for mince/ground beef is retarded.

>>21439886
I am just telling you, if you come across the pond and go into a grocery store asking for hamburger, they will give you mince, if you want premade patties you just add an s and ask for hamburgers, they give you the preformed patties. If you ask for mince, they will look at you like you have multiple heads.

>>21439891
And if those dirty foreigners come here asking for "mince" they'll get sent to the candy aisle to look for tic tacs.

>>21439891
>if you want premade patties you just add an s
Hello, 1 hamburgers pls.

>>21439899
Sir this is America, you're not allowed to buy just one hamburgers.

>>21439899
>>21439910
People trying to buy single hamburgers get put onto watch lists.

>>21439178 (OP)
>yea or nea?
This is the kind of thing that you can make yourself with your own ingredients, with a good recipe, if you wish to do so and make it best.

They are "kits" meaning several packets, seasonings, toppings, etc. You do not have to drain the pasta as a separate step or dirty a different pot, but they cook right in the same skillet with your browned meat. The pasta is more porous or some kind of quick cooking version of pasta.

The rest of the world without imagination, will get these boxes for $1 on sale, or else BOGO sales. I think there may be some variants that have no existing shortcut for the packets, such as the sour cream powder that thickens like gravy mix within the Stroganoff version. It's been a long time, but that's all I remember. A box priced the same as a bag of pasta, is going to to be cheaper than a packet of au jus mix and a box of pasta, There used to be a decent fried rice flavor packet in one of them, as well.

My Mom never once bought this stuff. I bought it maybe 4x and it was really a rare thing to make one. I do however pull 1lb packages of frozen hamburger out of the freezer quite regularly to start dinner from the pantry, typically a chili, spaghetti or sloppy joe night.

>>21439914
>This is the kind of thing that you can make yourself with your own ingredients
It's the kind of thing that's like an MRE kit for civilians. If you're living out of a camper or you don't have access to a full kitchen. Or you do have a full kitchen, but you're just lazy. Just add hot water and maybe some powdered milk; toss in some canned meat. And there's your salty cheese flavored pasta meal.

>>21439178 (OP)
With ground sausage and some added shredded cheddar and cream cheese.

>>21439816
Brown the beef, throw in some flour, add noodles and water, mix in shredded cheese when it's done. Modify this recipe by adding whatever aromatics of seasonings you want.

>>21440085
>flour
Alternatively, use cornstarch at the end with the cheese to achieve the desired consistency.

They're okay. In recent years I've noticed that they don't taste as good; the cheesy ones don't seem to be as cheesy as they used to be. They also never fail to give me the shits within about 10-20 after eating.

Tuna Helper >>>>>>> Hamburger Helper

>>21439479
Generic hamburger helper is the best. I buy whatever the Aldi brand is called, it blows name brand away

>>21440257
You're right about Hamburger Helper not being as cheesy. And it happened right about the time they rebanded "cheeseburger macaroni" to "double cheeseburger macaroni".

Also around the same time, Kraft Mac and Cheese went from fantastic to pure shit.

Both boxed mac and cheese and hamburger helper actually require adding actual cheese to make them delicious these days. I usually put a few slices of American and a handful of cheddar in mine, if I have it.

>>21439178 (OP)
Hell yeah. I enhance mine with peppers and onions.

>>21439439
The double one is twice the volume of the normal cheeseburger macaroni

>>21439178 (OP)
Personally I think it does just fine on it's own

>>21439858
So I went ahead and made this, added some dried oregano, thyme, cayenne and white pepper, mushrooms, jalapeños, and omitted the ketchup... turned out okay, might do it again someday.

>>21439822
>I've had were made using onion, breadcrumbs and eggs
lmao thats a german hamburger that burgers always love to claim is not a real burger

>>21439482
for me it's the broccoli tuna helper, but made with chicken

>>21442536
Why didn't you use chicken helper or turkey helper?

Yeah euros, there are all kinds of helpers.

old hamburger helper? yes. hamburger helper past the 2010s? no. the new recipes suck dick. store brands are better tasting now and closer to the old hamburger helper taste. also you can make hamburger helper using kraft mac boxes instead and its 10x better than normal hamburger helper.

>>21442583
Who gives a fuck?

This brand is way better than Hamburger Helper and it doesn't require milk. The packet in this one is basically just powered tomato and herbs. I prefer it bigly over HH.