Thread 21505776

Had enough of the shilling and the constant disguised promotions. I actually drove through one today for the first time in five years. The greeting when I pulled up was: "will you be using the mobile app today?"
Meanwhile the giant TV screen where the menu used to be was just displaying the last car's receipt. I asked if I could see the menu or if I needed a cell phone to order. They said I should be able to see the menu, but it just flicked to another giant digital receipt for some other person's presumably mobile-app-ordered meal.
The person with the microphone didn't seem to understand there was no fucking food or prices displayed for me to choose from so I said I'd eat somewhere else and drove away.

Is this commonplace? Is it just a place to retrieve your online order now? Should I have gone inside? What the fuck happened in the last five years?
Also, I later checked the prices online and it's just bullshit expensive now anyway. It would be $12 for the meal I would have ordered.

Burger King has way better food anyway and they had a normal menu. It was another big monitor, but the prices stayed up long enough to choose something. Still expensive, but I didn't feel like some clueless old man trying to order either. They actually displayed food they had for sale! Imagine that.

General McDonalds/fast food hate thread.

I can't imagine people being addicted to it. I see fast food as a rare indulgence. A bad treat. It's terrible food, terrible for me, and while it tastes good while I'm eating it, I always feel a little sick when I'm finished. I guess I feel obligated to eat all of it.
When you eat unhealthily all the time it's just normal and you get used to it I guess. It'll be at least another 5 years before I go again. And then I'll just go in and eat there and watch the robots prepare everything.

I only eat sparkling kale and boiled water.

Let's give away some trade secrets. If this prevents even one anon from buying a Big Mac someday I'll have felt I lived a noble life.

>>21505787
Why would you order a burger that is like 70% bread, why is there a third bun

>>21505776 (OP)
You should have gone inside simply to see why you should not have gone there.

>>21505790
Don't ask me. I've eaten them and they're a fucking mess. Remember how things seemed bigger when you were a child? I remember the Big Mac being smaller. It seemed more manageable many years ago. Modern Big macs are a huge mess of a soft bun with too much sauce and lettuce spilling out all over. Can't even contain it to that box they come in. Maybe they started using bigger buns to justify the price increases over the years. They may have changed again since I've had one. Fast food just doesn't seem like a good choice anymore if you've ever had a food epiphany. Like a relapsing junkie I return to it every few years and just can't stomach it like I used to. It doesn't even taste as good as it should for how terribly unhealthy it is.
I've just grown out of eating factory frozen biologically-engineered, chemical-filled frankenfood.
It's fine to eat like that in your twenties. Just unsustainable. And each year the food gets worse. It must. They're always tweaking it in the labs to make more profit. Every time I taste it it tastes less like real food. And strangely there's always fucking BONE. The whopper I ate had a chip of bone. Little one. They always do. So you know the attention to detail and the sourcing of beef has gone downhill. Yet the price goes up.
I just can't support it. Not regularly.

>>21505776 (OP)
its like that because they want you to use the app
the only way its affordable is with the app
there aren't alot of ppl like you who don't get it so they don't care

>>21505790
You gotta try this viral "Big Mac Hack"
You toss away the top bun, remove the middle bun and flip it over
Now you got a better Big Mac with less bread

>>21505821
So you just tell them hold the sauce? Works for me. But at that point I'd just eat something else. If I was stuck with a Big Mac I didn't want that's a solution, but I'm not ordering something I need to modify to make edible. It's not that good to begin with to be worth that. For the price you pay I think you can just make requests now anyway. It's been decades since they operated as a pre-made, as-is cheap burger place.

The prices are just unbelievable for what you get.
If I was feeding my family on fast food like a retard I'd at least be top smart retard by going to Papa Murphy's and getting an entire pizza for the price of a Mcds 'value' meal. Seriously, when the burger combos are all over ten dollars, to the degree that people have to install apps and end up combining a couple sandwiches with some fry coupon to make their own combo meal for $8, it's a completely different enterprise than I remember growing up with. It's no wonder sales are down. You can't just jack up the price and then make any sort of affordability dependent on mandatory spyware and expect the masses to keep on coming. Too many lazy and old fashioned cranks like me who will still expect to be able to go in the drive through and see a menu and see some food for $5 or $6 with no hassle. Something you can get quick and eat on the road. They've changed their business model and expected everyone to go along with it. They raise the prices even more when they do less volume. What's scary is that I think a lot of it is still poor people eating it, they're just sacrificing in other parts of their lives or going into deeper debt to eat it. It's no longer cheap, even factoring in inflation I mean relative to the cost of living and cost of food in general fast food is no deal. I don't think any of it is. You can go into big ass grocery stores and costcos and walmarts and find cheap, cheap ass sandwiches and hot foods and cold foods of all kinds. You can go to gas stations and get cheap food.

>>21505836
Sounds like the most disgusting diet ever. And if you like Mcd's food then you have to stop eating halfway through. lol
$1,000 says he's already gained the weight back.

Anyone ever notice how people season the shit out of their home cooked burger patties while mcdonalds' patties are relatively bland? And people find these plain tasting patties addictive. They're only using salt.

Think about that the next time you're making burgers and wondering what to season yo beef with.

>>21505854
I got some beef for you to season

>>21505849
So it's not like the cheap fast food isn't there; like it's just not possible to do. They're doing it. You just have to get out of your car to get it in one of those places. The deli section has sandwiches galore for $2. They have $5 rotisserie chickens. They have $1 loaves of freshly baked French and Italian bread. They have cheap pastries too.
Do the retards know about it? Are so many of them unwilling to get out of their vehicles? A lot of what keeps fast food afloat is these doordash type things where there's a driver bringing it to you. And I thought it was expensive and not very good before! Double the price and make it cold and soggy. $22 for the quarter pounder meal now. LOL

>>21505854
The thing is they don't want you tasting the beef. Fast food burgers always come stock with sour pickles, onions, sweet ketchup, mustard or mayonnaise, and a sweet bun. It's a wonder you can taste anything about the beef. The cheese they use is also somehow as sweet as it is salty. I think the beef is the least adulterated ingredient, and it's the one they can't fuck with too much. If there weren't regulations they'd do all sorts of shit in that department, and in nations other than the US they might.
People are addicted to the magic salt/sugar/fat ratio applied to fast food to make it addictive. They know that between the salted fries that they know is going into their proprietary ketchup, and the multi ingredient sandwich you ordered, and the soda and dessert you might get, and nuggets, with dips, they got you "high". And you'll return for that dopamine rush again. As long as the food is somewhat warm, it will deliver that bang.
The burger patty itself is not what they find addictive, it's the whole combination of things as well as the convenience and speed of it.
For this they will pay the cost financially and physically.

>>21505787
>tsp of minced onion
>in already half a cup of 'dressing'
what's the point

>>21505879
The "dressing" isn't a prepared salad dressing like a ranch or caesar, it means fake mayonnaise like miracle whip. But why it has fake mayonnaise and real in the same recipe seems pretty retarded.

I used to work with this woman who was super healthy in her diet and even sold whatever the Amway equivalent of health spa lifestyle shit is; lifespring or something. Anyway, despite all this and her whole foods lifestyle, she'd say 'there's nothing like a quarter pounder with cheese sometimes' and she'd get them a couple times a year. I always respected her, and now looking back I wonder if she'd still like them if she took 5 years off and didn't have one for so long. I think they depend on that familiarity and are able milk it for a customer's lifetime. They've discussed that aspect in various documentaries over the years; the 'hook them as a child' argument. But having stopped eating it and trying it again, I find fast food is generally worse overall, and I think that's because they change it so often to maximize profits that only the regulars think it's the same. We know the modern fast food burger is of vastly different quality than it was in the 50s and 60s when all of it was getting going, but just how drastic the changes become over time is unknown to me. I just know what I taste. I'm sure the info is out there; they do have to release their ingredients. But the science stuff is all trade secrets. That's where the suspicious and fascinating things take place. They're like the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries in that regard. It's BIG business, and they're always doing cutting edge shit to shave pennies here and there. They reduce spoilage, they extend shelf life, they pump sugar where it traditionally doesn't belong, they add salt and preservatives. We've all seen the food that doesn't spoil. That shit freaks me out. I guess the healthiest you can eat there is breakfast, because they can't fuck too much with an egg and coffee. I think in Supersize Me their breakfast sausage was surprisingly one of the only 9 things on their entire menu (including coffee, tea, and diet coke) to not include sugar somewhere. Plenty of salt and fat though in sausage.

>>21505879
>>21505893
That minced onion expands as it rehydrates so becomes more significant. And it's odd how they come up with those copycat recipes, but they manage to make it happen. The true combination of proprietary ingredients that go into Big Mac Sauce™ would probably be terrifying.

>>21505897
>They've discussed that aspect in various documentaries over the years; the 'hook them as a child' argument.

It's funny, I grew up pretty healthy. Fast food was very rare and we never went to McDonald's if we did get it. I went on vacation with a friend when I was around 10 or 11. We stopped there and got chicken mcnuggets which was my first time eating anything like that. I remember them being gross, but eating them out of politeness and about 10 minutes later vomited it all up. Never had a mcnugget again and didn't go back to McDonald's till my mid 20's when I was dating a girl who loved their food. Still gross in my books

>>21505776 (OP)
Download the app to get $1 off your next McNuggets purchase. I'm lovin' it

>>21505901
I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually very simple. That said, I don't really know what it tastes like in the first place.

>>21505876
I agree completely: it's the combination of all of that shit even when they have burgers with slightly bigger patties.

The ketchup thing is interesting. The ketchup PACKETS were just heinz ketchup until around 25 years ago. But when it was heinz, the packet ketchup and ketchup from the dispensers were noticeably different.

Remember? Back when they had the tiny paper cups for the ketchup dispensers.

>>21505876
I get a craving for mcdoubles a few times a month. It truly is a drug

>>21505922
"Secret sauce" IS simple at any mom and pop burger place. They even joke about it in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. All American Burger uses ketchup and mayonnaise and the one the other guy works at uses thousand island dressing. It's always been a joke, like in your image.
But absolutely everything like that at McDonalds is down to an absolute science. There's a whole team of people who make flavoring agents for corporations like that. They did a thing on 60 Minutes about it once. They did at thing on NPR about the proprietary recipes at Coca-Cola and all sorts of corporate espionage stuff. The 11 herbs and spices locked away in a vault. With McDonalds it's about addiction and profitability. They are constantly tweaking things to make them a little cheaper, a little more addictive. What can they get away with before people will not only not crave it, but spit it out.
There are people who get paid to taste test laboratory food. I'm sure most of it is delicious, but some of it must not be. The failures. The ones that don't get the high scores. The ones that were TOO cheap even for the fast food lover's palate. lol, I both would love to experience that and kind of fear it as a fantasy. Like jury duty or something. Ending up having an allergic reaction maybe.

Pink slime

And I read mcdonalds owns the farms with the pigs and cows to make their own stuff directly so who knows whats going into it
its not like they get the burgers from sysco

>>21505780
It's just placebo. You feel sick after eating it because you think you're supposed to, because that's what your parents told you would happen. It's not really that bad for you.

>>21505776 (OP)
Everything is going in this direction. There are walmarts being converted so you are not even allowed inside, and it is all curbside pickup and delivery.

>>21505776 (OP)
>Muh pink slime
How new do you think I am, anyone who buys this is a literal child.

>>21506173
I guess you are maybe 30 and an idiot. I know you want to argue and state that you are not an idiot, but that is because you are not smart enough to know any better.

>>21505816
What about all the spiders you swallow in your sleep

>pureed chicken looks like pink slime
yeah no shit

>>21506173
>>21506192
Yeah I worked in a pasta factory for a time on the cannelloni line, it all looks disgusting like that.

Never buy from this company btw. I quit because the food safety conditions were atrocious and no one cared.

For me it’s the 4 dollar McChicken.

The pink slime scare is funny to me because I've worked in a chicken processing factory and it's literally just leftover fat, skin and meat recovered from the carcasses. It's stuff you'd eat just fine on a rotisserie chicken.

>>21505776 (OP)
>le pink slime
2006 called, they want their bait back

I don't eat at McDonalds but I don't think nuggets are made of pink slime.

>>21506528
well, they are. They grind boy chicks feathers, beaks and all to create a pink slurry that is then bleached and boiled.

>>21506560
got any evidence of that claim

>>21506563
It is processed meat bits pressed into moulds. You think companies waste anything they can instead pass on to the consumer? Where is the profit in admitting it, and where is the crime in denying it even if it is true?

>>21506571
>trust me bro

I'm not arguing that companies are hesitant to waste things, I'm aware that male chicks are put through a grinder and then processed for fertiliser or animal food.
The result of chick culling is deemed unsuitable for human consumption. So I ask you for proof that chick culling is used for anything other than fertiliser or protein for animal feed.

You made the claim, back it up with evidence.

>>21505821
>Toss the top bun
Fine, okay, now I have an open faced sandwich
>Remove the middle bun
Now I have bottom bun, lettuce, beef patties, whatever else, cheese probably, it's still an open faced sandwich. How is this a Big Mac with less bread? Here's one for you to try:

>Take the Big Mac
>Shove it straight up your ass

>>21506563
Meat by-products are defined as materials of animal origin that are not typically intended for human consumption but are derived from animals, particularly during the slaughtering process. These include all parts of an animal that are not sold as the primary meat product.

Here's a breakdown of the definition and legal aspects:

General Definition: Animal by-products (ABPs) encompass all parts of an animal slaughtered for human consumption that are not edible or not marketed as food. This can include items such as skin, bones, horns, hooves, blood, fat, and offal (internal organs like liver, spleen, kidneys, and lungs). They are a significant co-product of meat production, contributing to the overall value of the animal.

Legal Definition (European Union): According to the European Commission, "Animal by-products" refers to "entire bodies or parts of animals, products of animal origin or other products obtained from animals, which are not intended for human consumption, including oocytes, embryos and semen." These materials are categorized based on their risk level (Category 1, 2, or 3) for public and animal health.

Legal Definition (United States - for Animal Feed, via AAFCO): The Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) defines "Meat By-Products" as "the non-rendered, clean parts, other than meat, derived from slaughtered mammals. It includes, but is not limited to lungs, spleen, kidneys, brain, livers, blood, bone, partially defatted low temperature fatty tissue, & stomachs & intestines freed of their contents. It does not include hair, horns, teeth & hoofs. It shall be suitable for use in animal food.

These boards would be so much better if you retards just started using ChatGPT or Gemini.

>>21506587
And what the fuck does that word salad coughed up by a robot mean to the post that you replied to.

>>21506571
I know you're almost certainly just trolling, but for anyone not aware...

The meat that goes into shit like mcnuggets is regular chicken meat, all the left over stuff from when they cut the breasts, legs, wings off. They just process it through sieves with high pressure to separate the soft meat from the bone to get that pink meat slurry. It's a fairly simple and inexpensive process.

Baby male chicks are just plain turned into fertilizer or animal food. It would be a shit ton of grinding and processing to turn a baby chick, feathers bones and all into anything similar to the mechanically separated meat they already use. There's no profit in that when dogs and cats will happily gobble it up with far less effort.

>>21506599
Your are sure and confident enough in that to contradict me because Tyson chicken said that is how it goes? You should be careful you do not get tricked into being a nugget. They have no obligation to tell the public anything they would find unappetizing. Feathers, beaks and feet are "chickem" and listed as such. It is all legal.

>>21505776 (OP)

I'm happy to see this thread. McDonald's is fucking garbage.
Even their breakfast sandwiches are better done by Jimmy Dean's microwave stuff.

>>21506606
I mean maybe there's a company out there that does it, but I've been in the food industry almost two decades and never heard of it. Maybe Tyson wasn't happy with how much they got from selling chicks as animal feed, but from everything I know that would be a lot more work to produce chicken nuggets that weren't gritty and weird. But maybe their's are... I honestly can't remember the last time I ate a chicken nugget of any brand.

Your claims sound suspicious due to efficiency.

I only eat there like once every few years and I always get queasy afterwards. Maybe it's just in my head but I don't like them anymore

>>21506617
and your arguments sound baised around a well learned narrative to the point your "work experience" detracts from your explanation of things. You can be suspected of protecting your industry. Good soldier, but bad reporter.

>>21506617
>Your claims sound suspicious
Because he's full of shit

>>21506627
yeah... that is your opinion, and it is arrogant and rude of you to present it like that as if it has any value... punk.

>>21506626
>>21506629
So where do you get the information you are claiming from? Have you also worked in meat plants? For Tyson specifically? What has given you the impression they make their nugget slurry different from the rest of the industry?

>>21505776 (OP)
Just order 2 double cheeseburgers and 2 mcchickens. What else could anyone be ordering from there?

>>21506656
glad you asked. I am the all knowing God of man.

>>21506659
Ohh of course, so everything you say is utter bullshit. Thanks for the confirm.

>>21505821
if i have to dismantle my burger like this, i would order a different menu item at that point

Why do they still try to push this PINK PASTE shit? No fucking shit it's pink paste - literally grind/blend/emulsify chicken even if you raise your own and kill it yourself, it turns into pink paste. That's just what fucking happens, shut the fuck up already.

I haven't had mcdonald's this year
nearly 8 months
BUMP fuck mcdonalds

>>21506241
It should be like two dollars max. Fuck that place. I'll eat at the gas station; it's really no worse.

>>21506501
Pink slime is the hamburgers. The BEEF.

>>21506658
That would be like $17 now, and that's unacceptable.

>>21506744
What's incoherent here, shill? Why do you worship the golden arches? Just how fat are you currently?

>>21506753
I guess it's too much to ask that they use actual chicken tenderloins for their chicken strips. It's chicken hotdogs covered in batter and fried. You shouldn't be proud of eating that.

>>21505776 (OP)
>Is this commonplace?
Although it had been some time since you last went there, going into a drive through line and not already knowing what you probably want is your fault. Walk inside to reacquant yourself with what they serve at McDonalds and stand back and memorize the menu 15-20 mins and make up your mind.

Here's how it should have gone..."uhh, 2 cheeseburgers, do you have a meal for that? yes, perfect, that's what I'll have. Coke to drink" Yup, nothing else.

Morgan Spurlock rose from the dead to make this thread

>>21508059
Morgan Spurlock is dead??? My heart just felt a wave of joy.

>>21508033
Two cheeseburgers meal? What am I, 12? Maybe there's more to the menu now. Maybe we want to see the prices. There's simply no excuse for the menu not being displayed.

>>21508146
Cancer. Probably from his alcoholism.

>>21505776 (OP)
Bitch that's the tubby custard machine

>>21505776 (OP)
Someone share the info graphic on their McDicks rising prices?

>>21505787
>1 tsp sugar
Why would you add more sugar when the Miracle Whip, French salad dressing, sweet pickle relish, and ketchup are all sweet and full of sugar? It doesn't need more!

>>21509475
this is the strangest of the copy cats I've seen.
it should only use mayo or miracle whip, also it should only use dill or sweet relish depending on if you used mayo or miracle whip
and who needs sugar when your using sweet relish or miracle whip
and all the other big mac sauce recipes I've seen, never called for french dressing

Someone pays jeet to spam mcshill threads on /ck/ and I wish they'd kill themselves.

McDonald's treats their staff like shit and charges 6-14 times more than they used to and serving sizes have shrunk to the point it's like they pranked you with a mini meal.

>>21505776 (OP)
You don't need to post the fake pink slime disinfo to prove how low quality Mcshits is

>>21505776 (OP)
>Complaining about Kafkan digital cuck systems in context of considering yourself discerning when choosing which goyslop to eat.

>Chicken paste is the color of raw chicken
STOP THE PRESS!

>>21505776 (OP)
>Burger King has way better food anyway
Carl's Jr is the preferred burger joint for my family and I here in Australia now
Hungry Jack's is still bullshit expensive but something just tastes... Off about their ingredients and you feel sick after eating it
Carl's is still expensive for the most part but there are a few deals like the Tradie Meal Deal and two cheeseburgers for $5 that are worth getting and the food doesn't make you feel crook afterward
>>21505780
>it tastes good while I'm eating it
It tastes like someone has made the ingredients out of sugar to me. That might be pleasant to some but I find it sickening.
>>21505821
>Just throw away half your burger, bro
>>21506748 is right, why even order a Big Mac if that's what you're going to do?

not a fan of mcdonalds, but their scrambled eggs are objectively THE best fast food breakfast item on the market

>>21505945
>NPR
tells me everything I need to know about their research

>>21506571
>peasants grind offal into sausages for centuries
this is fine
>a corporation does the same
what the FUCK!!!!

>>21505945
>They are constantly tweaking things to make them a little cheaper, a little more addictive
Which they accomplished by making expensive food everyone says sucks now?