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Italians Cry Foul After Minor Change to a Recipe Published in UK Cooking Magazine
>Italians have reacted with fury after the popular UK Good Food website published a recipe for a traditional Roman dish that did not include the correct original ingredients and appeared to belittle it as a quick eat.

>Pasta cacio e pepe is a beloved Roman dish, renowned for being simple yet surprisingly challenging to make - so Good Food's description of it as something that can be quickly whipped up for "a speedy lunch" irritated many.

>The recipe also listed four ingredients - spaghetti, black pepper, parmesan and butter and suggested double cream as an option - when there should only be three: spaghetti, black pepper and pecorino cheese.

>Such was the outrage that an association representing restaurants in Italy took the issue up with the British embassy in Rome.

>The furore has been widely covered in Italian media, with a journalist at public broadcaster RAI saying: "We are always told, you are not as good as the BBC… and then they go and do this. Such a grave mistake. The suggestion of adding some cream gave me goosebumps."

>Giorgio Eramo runs a fresh pasta restaurant near St Peter's square - serving up cacio e pepe and other traditional pasta dishes.

>"It's terrible. It's not cacio e pepe... What Good Food published, with butter and parmesan, is called 'pasta Alfredo'. It's another kind of pasta," he said.

>On his restaurant's board of pastas, he offers cacio e pepe with lime - a variation. But he says that's ok.

>"It's different, it's for the summer, to make the pasta more fresh. But it doesn't impact the tradition. It's not like cream or butter. Lime is just a small change."

Lmfao. What a bunch of hypocrites
Why do Shitalians get their noses pushed so out of joint whenever anyone improves one of their many lacklustre and uninspired dishes? Both French and Spanish are superior cuisines and they aren't clutching pearls every time someone puts chorizo in a paella or adds a capsicum to beef bourguignon. Americans improved their dishes years ago.
Anonymous No.21519324
Adding cream is just a way for lazy unskilled cooks to make the dish without clumping the cheese, but it results in a heavier less cheesy dish.
Anonymous No.21519328 >>21519935 >>21520331 >>21522265 >>21522409 >>21525496 >>21529657
Anonymous No.21519336 >>21519345 >>21519346 >>21522426
I mean it isn't really that hard once you get the hang of it. And adding cream kind of defeats the point of it doesn't it? Why would you do that?

British people have awful taste though so I'm not surprised. This is the cuntry responsible for Chateauneuf du Pape being a "prestige wine" lol
Anonymous No.21519345 >>21519351 >>21522551 >>21527992 >>21529678
>>21519336
>British people have awful taste though
M-m-m-must slag off the brits
Every night I dream of ways to mention brits
I-I-I I can't stop thinking about them
Anonymous No.21519346 >>21519351 >>21519399 >>21519413 >>21519937
>>21519336
>This is the cuntry responsible for Chateauneuf du Pape being a "prestige wine
The Brits created Champagne and Bordeaux, you retard. CNDP is the oldest appellation in France and Rhone wines were boosted by the American Robert Parker.
Anonymous No.21519350 >>21519367
The ingredients look almost like carbonara.
It's rare to see Italians so particular about the small details.
Anonymous No.21519351
>>21519345
Don't take it so personally Nigel, tomorrow it will be the Dutch. God I hate the Dutch

>>21519346
Creating a thing generations ago doesn't mean you automatically have good taste now. Greeks invented democracy and have you seen the way they dress?
Anonymous No.21519361
>>21519313 (OP)
>Roman dish
Ok first off BULLSHIT it's not in Apicius.
Anonymous No.21519367
>>21519350
>It's rare to see Italians so particular about the small details.
Is this sarcasm
Anonymous No.21519384
>>21519313 (OP)
>getting angry over an ingredient change
Alright sure fair enough, that can be a valid complaint depending on what it is
>getting angry because it is described as "a speedy lunch"
This is why nobody takes Italians seriously when they bitch, lmao
Anonymous No.21519391
>cooklet couldn't cook the dish without it turning into a ball of stringy cheese
>finds a shortcut for other cooklets
>doesn't like it if people point out he can't cook the dish normally
git gud much?
Anonymous No.21519399
>>21519346
So many of the French cooking culture w a s created when France was under British occupation.
Britian revolutionized cooking.
Anonymous No.21519413 >>21519416
>>21519346
champagne sucks THOUGH
Anonymous No.21519416
>>21519413
there's a french guy here who has a hate boner for bordeaux, maybe he's up early and can regale us with an angry rant about bordeaux
Anonymous No.21519448 >>21522262 >>21527988 >>21529609 >>21529682
>>21519313 (OP)
Italians are such cucks
Anonymous No.21519450 >>21519464
>>21519313 (OP)
>"We are always told, you are not as good as the BBC…
Anonymous No.21519459
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcDpg-6D9VI
Anonymous No.21519464
>>21519450
yeah i heard that all the time too, feels bad man
Anonymous No.21519666
>>21519313 (OP)
cacio e Pepe.
Anonymous No.21519710
Italians: cringe and gay
Italian Americans: based and cool
Get it straight
Anonymous No.21519717 >>21531286
>>21519313 (OP)
>they went to the fucking embassy
Fucking lmao every country should start butchering Italian dishes now
Anonymous No.21519723
>>21519313 (OP)
>It's not like cream or butter. Lime is just a small change
kek they are so retarded
Anonymous No.21519923 >>21519944 >>21520328
>>21519313 (OP)
>MAMMA MIA THEY MADE THE POVERTY PASTA DISH WRONG NOOOOO WHAT'S NEXT PINEAPPLE ON DA PIZZIA

There's a reason everyone fucking hates Italians.
Anonymous No.21519932
>>21519313 (OP)
>Giorgio Eramo runs a fresh pasta restaurant near St Peter's square
SO LITERALLY SOMEONE WHO RAPES TOURISTS WITH MASSIVE RIP-OFFS WITH SHIT TIER INGREDIENTS AT MASSIVE MARKUP PRICES ALL WHILE TREATING THE TOURISTS LIKE VERMIN AND EXPECTING TO BE TREATED LIKE SOME CULINARY GOD.

LITERALLY THE WHOLE OF ITALY IS A SCAM AND A RIP-OFF.
Anonymous No.21519935
>>21519328
>pasta unbroken
Yep, it's legit Italian.
Anonymous No.21519937
>>21519346
tbf a lot of 'mediterranean' things are credited to france in english
Anonymous No.21519944
>>21519923
I learned about how fragile manchildren Italians are when I went to Italy. They lost a soccer game in the world cup and they all just got up and left without even paying when I was at a restaurant
Anonymous No.21519948
>>21519313 (OP)
>Pasta dish is called "poopoo peepee"
Anonymous No.21519994 >>21522287
>>21519313 (OP)
It boggles the mind how angloids can take a recipe whose name is the literal list of ingredients and still fuck it up
Anonymous No.21520270 >>21520280 >>21521787
>A handful of literally whos on Italian twitter are posting about a retarded recipe on a retarded website, please give me views this is definitely news.
Anonymous No.21520278
>>21519313 (OP)
Obsessed.
Anonymous No.21520280
>>21520270
It’s Italia-sperg.
He’s off his meds recently.
Anonymous No.21520282
Anonymous No.21520293
>>21519313 (OP)
Italians are the worst. We know the British can't cook, but the Italians are the biggest bunch of crybaby manchildren on the planet.
I had to work with them after my company sent me over there to fix their mess, because they literally do everything wrong.
Anonymous No.21520328 >>21521772 >>21525496
>>21519923
We have pizza with pineapple in Italy, though.
https://warosu.org/ck/thread/21391513#p21391599
>>21519313 (OP)
I think the reason the butter is verboten is because that's another dish. Our cuisine is so simple that a minor change makes it a whole 'nother thing.
With butter and parmigiano = pasta al burro (what Anglos conflate with Alfredo, an American dish using cream).
Without butter and using pecorino = cacio e pepe.
Anonymous No.21520331
>>21519328
Genius-tier trolling, no notes. Handcrafted to make Italians seethe
Anonymous No.21521761
Cacio E Pepe A La Anon
Anonymous No.21521772
>>21520328
Commendatori
Anonymous No.21521787
>>21520270
hey man being born with skin the color of shit isn't their fault they can't control their estrogenic gossipy genes
Anonymous No.21521796
>>21519313 (OP)
>It's terrible. It's not cacio e pepe... What Good Food published, with butter and parmesan, is called 'pasta Alfredo'. It's another kind of pasta," he said.
Imagine getting your panties twisted because your favourite subhuman food blogger site got criticized by a real chef.
Anonymous No.21522262 >>21524904
>>21519448
Why are all the innocent bystanders also broccoli-haired zoomers? This kid needs to find better extras
Anonymous No.21522265
>>21519328
reminds me of
Anonymous No.21522269
dagoes should go back to organized killing of each other, then kill themselves
Anonymous No.21522287
>>21519994
based
Anonymous No.21522348 >>21522355
>>21519313 (OP)
Why would you not butter your pasta? Instantly gets 3x tastier
Anonymous No.21522355 >>21522360
>>21522348
Because then it's pasta burro e parmigiano, not pasta cacio e pepe, so it's a different recipe.
Anonymous No.21522360 >>21522390 >>21522596
>>21522355
why would anyone ever eat cacio e pepe when the superior recipe exists already?
Anonymous No.21522390
>>21522360
not our problem
Anonymous No.21522404
>belittle it as quick eat
that's exactly what it is
Anonymous No.21522409
>>21519328
I love stupid american cunts so much bros
Anonymous No.21522423
>>21519313 (OP)
Why would Italian restaurant owners in Italy give the slightest shit about what British people do in Britain? This is why they're not a real country.
Anonymous No.21522426
>>21519336
>Chateauneuf du Pape
>a French wine with a French name made by French people in France
>WHY DID THE BRITISH DO THIS?!?!?!
Anonymous No.21522503
i stand with the Italians on this one
most faggots itt can suck a dick
Anonymous No.21522529
angloids seethe when Italians complain about recipe bastardization but clap and kneel when niggers, pajeets, spics and SEAmonkeys do it
Anonymous No.21522551 >>21522611
>>21519345
It's a British magazine.
Do you just scrub the board for any mention of "british" to get pissy about, regardless of context?
Anonymous No.21522596 >>21522601
>>21522360
Variation. Do you just want to eat the same thing day in day out?
Anonymous No.21522601 >>21522630
>>21522596
I wouldn't eat a worse pasta dish for variation, I'd just eat an equally tasty dish of another variety
Anonymous No.21522611 >>21522669 >>21525463
>>21522551
I think it's a bot. Same with the robotic autreplies when you say something about americans and a bunch of (You)s happen that are just variations on OBSESSED and insinuating that you must be from europe because only europeans can say "american"
Anonymous No.21522630 >>21522642
>>21522601
It's not any worse than butter pasta if you're not a cooklet who needs cream to make it creamy though, it's just different.
Anonymous No.21522642 >>21522653 >>21524000
>>21522630
butter makes anything tastier, it's like msg
Anonymous No.21522653 >>21522661 >>21524862 >>21525639
>>21522642
Parmigiano has literal msg in it.
Anonymous No.21522657
>>21519313 (OP)
Can we all just agree to cut off Italy's internet access until those greasy moorish mafia gypsies PAY DENBTS?
Anonymous No.21522661 >>21522867
>>21522653
so a dish with parmigiano and butter would be so much better than a cacio e pepe
Anonymous No.21522663 >>21524010 >>21525507 >>21529658
>NOOOOO YOU'RE DOING THE PASTA PIZZA TUTTI FRUTTI ARMADILLO WRONG, NO NO NO YOU'RE EATING IT WRONG NOOOO STOP AAAHHHHH
Why are shitalians like this? No one else is so deranged about people making some slop slightly differently. Ugly language as well
Anonymous No.21522669 >>21522884
>>21522611
>I think it's a bot
makes sense, even brits hate britain
Anonymous No.21522867 >>21523001 >>21529484
>>21522661
Nigger then eat burro e parmigiano, just don't call it cacio e pepe.
Anonymous No.21522884 >>21523048
>>21522669
>makes sense, even brits hate britain
I just have have to mention britain and the brits, I am so obsessed by them
Anonymous No.21522926
None of this is real. You're all buffoons playing a role in this mascarade. Go outside.
Anonymous No.21522987
>>21519313 (OP)
Adding lime sounds like a great idea. Im going to try that next time!
Anonymous No.21523001
>>21522867
yeah we've been over this
it's the superior recipe just ignore the other one it's bad
Anonymous No.21523048
>>21522884
yep, bot
Anonymous No.21524000 >>21524667
>>21522642
>literal msg
>literal
i blame guga
Anonymous No.21524010
>>21522663
Why do the opinions of random italians affect you so hard?
Anonymous No.21524667 >>21524768 >>21524862
>>21524000
not uncle roger?
Anonymous No.21524768 >>21524839 >>21524842 >>21524843
>>21524667
The American doing a minstrel show version of a chinaman? Me so solly flied lice ifa u preez .
Anonymous No.21524839 >>21524842 >>21524843
>>21524768
I thought he was british
Anonymous No.21524842
>>21524839
>>21524768
Isn't he Chinkaporean?
Anonymous No.21524843
>>21524768
>>21524839
Don't you see his yellow skin? Obviously he's not American or British.
Anonymous No.21524862 >>21524917
>>21524667
I linked to the wrong comment - should have been
>>21522653
and it was a reference to how guga calls absolutely everything "MSG, resulting in someone needing to specify "literal msg".

Also, uncle roger can fuck off.
Anonymous No.21524904 >>21525174
>>21522262
it looks staged but believe me, it's really, really easy to offend an Italian if you butcher their cuisine. especially coffee, like holy shit.
Anonymous No.21524917 >>21525639
>>21524862
nobody said literal msg but you though
Anonymous No.21525174
>>21524904
>especially coffee
lmao
My mother was like that when visiting me here in the US. She said that I acclimated to American coffee because she "made the mistake" of marrying an American and passing his American genes onto me.
I was born and grew up in Italy to an Italian mum and an Asian-American/Italian-American dad. While my sister and I prefer Italian coffee, we can drink American without complaint. My mother and brother cannot. No one cares what my dad likes.
Anonymous No.21525406
>Okay so we've boiled some pasta strands
>Lets add some olive oil, cheese and black peper
NO YOU USE THAT WRONG KIND OF CHEESE
>Okay, scrap that, perhaps a nice mix of field mushrooms, bacon and plum tomatoes with fusili would be a nice meal.
NO THATSA PEPE CON PUGLIRIGLI YOU SPIT ON OUR TRADITION
>I'm fucking so sorry sir. Perhaps some dolcelatte and spinach penne?
DISGUSTING YOU'RE-A MEANT TO USE DOI POOPELLTI SHITTIPETTI DOLCE FOR THAT OR IT'S NOT A KALE-PENNELITTI.
Anonymous No.21525463
>>21522611
found the obsessed eurocuck
Anonymous No.21525496 >>21525505
>>21519328
I need the exasperated tiktok review guy to do this one.
>>21520328
Yeah, if a dish consists of only three ingredients and you change one, it's literally a different dish.
Anonymous No.21525505 >>21525730 >>21525785 >>21526492
>>21525496
Exactly.
I explained it to an American once by facetiously claiming I made a ham sandwich with Oscar Mayer bologna. He complained at me that if I'm not using ham, it's not a ham sandwich.
"Why not? They're both pink, processed pork products? Same thing. It's a ham sandwich. Fuck you."
When he protested further, I explained "and that's why swapping one ingredient or technique for another isn't really done in Italian cuisine; our dishes only have a handful of ingredients so changing even one changes the entire character of the dish and makes it something else."
When he bitched that it's not the same thing, I showed him a picture of crumble-cooked ground beef with spray cheese on it and called it a cheesesteak, knowing that as a Philadelphian, he'd finally understand.
"Same thing. It's got cheese. It's got beef. It's got bread. It's a cheesesteak."
Anonymous No.21525507
>>21522663
they have nothing else going for them
Anonymous No.21525639
>>21524917
anon...
>>21522653
Anonymous No.21525709
Italians are not human
Anonymous No.21525730 >>21525785
>>21525505
shitalian faggot you know hes right and you have autism
Anonymous No.21525785
>>21525730
Explain how it's different ma'am. I'll wait for you to tuck in your balls before you answer.
>>21525505
Americans don't know anything outside of their tri-state area. Most of us only understand things when explained through analogy. You should have gone with the cheesesteak thing first rather than some hypothetical hamlogna sandwich.
Anonymous No.21525825
>>21519313 (OP)
>CA CA DE PEE PEE
Anonymous No.21525829
Why are Italians like this?
Anonymous No.21525874
Maybe it's my bias because I live in a nordic country where people are all autistic and incapable of expressing themselves, but italian hate is gay and fuck everyone in this thread
Anonymous No.21526492
>>21525505
The only example I could think of earlier was pizza; if someone ordered pepperoni pizza and you handed them anchovy pizza, they'd shit themselves. A better example would be something to do with PB&J sandwiches. Like swapping out marmalade for grape jelly.
Your cheesesteak example is probably the most evocative though.
Anonymous No.21527988
>>21519448
Not even Italian, but I would seriously consider punching him for ragebaiting.
Anonymous No.21527992 >>21529487
>>21519345
>slag off
you're british
Anonymous No.21528018
>>21519313 (OP)
Lol
Italians are such thin skinned little bitches.

Must have inherited their lack of MAOA, DAT1, and 5-HTTLPR genes from their darker southern cousins
Anonymous No.21529484 >>21529497
>>21522867
I’ll call my dish whatever I want and there’s not a single thing you can do about it, cucklet.
Anonymous No.21529487
>>21527992
Very perceptive of you.
So what?
Anonymous No.21529497
>>21529484
You call men in dresses women and niggers doctors and engineers, I don't care what you call your kitchen abominations.
Anonymous No.21529609
>>21519448
>taking another man's ketchup
That would get you shot in the U.S.
Anonymous No.21529649
>>21519313 (OP)
>Spanish are superior cuisines and they aren't clutching pearls every time someone puts chorizo in a paella
lol
lmao
Spain was furious at Jamie Oliver for doing exactly that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBtgYcr8qGQ

Educate yourself stupid mutt
Anonymous No.21529657
>>21519328
kek based
Anonymous No.21529658
>>21522663
your nation's foods?
Anonymous No.21529671 >>21529674
>>21519313 (OP)
It was a poorly written article, of course. Anyone who actually read it had several points of ocntention. Author had an air of authority but was full of ignorance. Most of the average joe's in this thread already know that Italians are sensitive about using named dishes that deviate from the explicit ingredient list. Most anyone that actually travels or splits their time across two cultures knows this, how did the author not know? Probably some non-contract content creator. Editor should be fired. They should have known it didn't pass the muster.
Anonymous No.21529674 >>21531505
>>21529671
As Uncle Roger proved, the BBC/Good Food is fucking awful and they only consult Food Writers, not actual chefs
Anonymous No.21529678
>>21519345
Holy fuck the OP posted an article from a British magazine that the Italians are getting butthurt over are you really that retarded.
Anonymous No.21529682
>>21519448
I dunno why the ice in the wine one is so surprising. You mean to tell me Bogans never visit Italy? I find that very hard to believe.
Anonymous No.21529720 >>21529728
>some retards on social media complain about a recipe
>this is newsworthy
All journalists need to hang
Anonymous No.21529728 >>21529741
>>21529720
> runs a fresh pasta restaurant
>muh soicial media
Anonymous No.21529741
>>21529728
Yes. Attention whores often run businesses.
Anonymous No.21529821 >>21530804
>>21519313 (OP)
To translate this in terms our Yoo Kay friends could understand, this is like having fish and chips without the melted ink from yesterday's newspaper, or eating chicken tikka masala without using your unwashed hands.
Anonymous No.21530804 >>21531171
>>21529821
To translate this in terms our Yoo Ess Ayy friends *can understand, this is like having fried chicken without growth hormones and cleaning it with bleach, or shooting up heroin in your trailer park without using a fresh needle.
Anonymous No.21531171 >>21531188 >>21531278
>>21530804
To translate this in terms our Eee Yoo friends can understand, this is like a christmas market where a muslim doesn't kill a dozen people with a van.
Anonymous No.21531188 >>21531278
>>21531171
To translate this in terms our Yoo Ess Ayy friends can understand, this is like going to school where a schizoid nutcase doesn't kill dozens with a gun.
Anonymous No.21531190
>>21519313 (OP)
isn't caocao the korean warlord?
Anonymous No.21531278
>>21531171
>>21531188
>not food analogies
ypipo got no food
Anonymous No.21531283
/pol/ and /int/ have been a disaster for this website.
Anonymous No.21531286
>>21519717
>Fucking lmao every country should start butchering Italian dishes now.

Too late, America already did
Anonymous No.21531372
>>21519313 (OP)
>there should only be three: spaghetti, black pepper and pecorino cheese.
behold! the greatest cuisine known to man! only intellectuals can comprehend the magnificence of Italian cooking!
How dare you imply that this is a simple dish?

and to think that we get made fun of for beans on toast etc.

>>On his restaurant's board of pastas, he offers cacio e pepe with lime - a variation. But he says that's ok.
made me lol
better than anything an Anon could come up with
Anonymous No.21531441
>>21519313 (OP)
"Today we are going to make classic fish&chips."
"So first we will hammer our pork as thin as possibl- what do you mean it is not fish&chips just because I used pork ?! It is still deep fried and served with fries, of course it is fish and chips!"
Anonymous No.21531505
>>21529674
they should just consult second-rate comedians