Thread 21542172

Today, I woke up to the memory of a dream. In the dream I was crying, tears streaming down my face. Ugly sobs. Why? Because I couldn't eat my favorite foods. Pizza, Ice Cream, Cereal, Oatmeal. Lactose intolerance fucking sucks so bad. I thought I was coping well enough, but the dream made me realize just how miserable I am without these things.

inb4: "Erm, just get lactaid, or a substitute" Don't you think I've tried?! I'm not looking for your help. Just give me your condolences. Or if you have similar anecdotes, feel free to share.

>>21542172 (OP)
Cheese and butter have very little lactose. Unpasteurized yogurt contains bacteria that help break down lactose during digestion. You should be able to have these even if you're lactose intolerant. If you still struggle with them then a dairy allergy might be more likely. You could also try goat or A2 dairy products because some people seem to tolerate them better.

I'm having similar issues with starch though. My body doesn't seem to break down and absorb anything starchy and I get sick every time I eat it. I like pasta and beans and bread but nothing I've tried seems to help.

>>21542172 (OP)
They have enzyme pills you can take that are supposed to help but I've never tried them. Just embrace it, OP. There are things in life we have no control over. Amongst those things is not being able to control how people see us as well as the fact that one day we will pass away. You should see your lactose intolerance as a good thing.

To be able to adapt when you're thrown out of your comfort zone is a necessary attribute one must yield if they wish to survive on this earth. This is a beautiful opportunity to grow in self control and discipline.

>>21542183
Butter is the only dairy based food that is passable. I can have like 1 slice of pizza, if I make it from scratch with low moisture mozzarella. The rest is shitstown, USA.
I never cared for yogurt.

>>21542197
That makes it sound more like a dairy allergy. But like I said, some people tolerate goat or A2 dairy products more. It's a different kind of protein while regular cow milk in the USA is A1. Some people said they've had success with it. It's more expensive unfortunately but it could at least let you have it if it works. Could be why Lactaid didn't work for you.

>>21542195
>You should see your lactose intolerance as a good thing.
Sorry, I'm not one of those people who can build delusions around me as a cope. Reality is: all the best foods in the world incorporate milk in some way. The best cookies and cakes have milk in them. The best sandwiches, wraps, and subs all have cheese and/or milk based sauces. Whole milk is the best substance to eat cereals with. The creamiest ice cream is full milk ice cream.(Not cut with anything)

>>21542204
That's fine, because im not asking you to be delusional. I'm asking you to come to terms with reality and adapt as evry adult should be capable of doing.

>>21542204
Remember, being upset wont make your body be able to properly digestive lactose again. You can let this continue to upset you, or you can come to terms with it and grow as a person. Hopefully even one day realizing that it isn't really that much of a big deal. And I say this as someone with lactose intolerance as well.

>>21542203
Lactaid does work for me. It's just not perfect. While lactaid stops the shits, my bowels still feel weird after indulging in milk products, and sometimes my poops have red in them. My guess is that it's not neutralizing all of the lactoss, so a low grade reaction still occurs. I don't want to be incontinent by the time I'm 50, so I avoid milk to make the low grade symptoms go away. Same reason why I stopped with the butter. Technically edible, but still showing low grade symptoms.

And besides, the money is a factor as well. I get so pissed when I go to the store, and see a gallon of whole milk is only $2.50, but a HALF gallon of lactose free milk is 5 bucks. The fucking audacity of these companies!

Again, I don't want your fucking help. I really hate how every faggot wants to be harry the helper on the internet. I don't care for your recommendations.

>>21542203
this, buy this or Fairlife milk. It doesn't have lactose in it, but not the additives.

Why can't you eat oatmeal?

>>21542208
>>21542222
Oh shut the fuck up, you two. I don't need your finger wagging either.

>>21542225
Yeah they add lactase enzyme to milk but since it has to be kept cold it might not be enough time to completely break down the lactose. It's just odd that you'd have issues with low moisture cheese which should have almost no lactose though. But people with dairy allergies say they can tolerate butter more especially if it's clarified or made into ghee.

>And besides, the money is a factor as well.
Since I can't eat starches I seem to do better eating nuts/peanuts. But other than peanuts, nuts are all pretty expensive too. Sucks because I like the taste of beans and bread and pasta and they're like $1/lb while nuts are $10/lb.

Let's all laught at the brown or asian OP
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA

>>21542225
>sometimes my poops have red in them.
yikes

I get that you are just venting and not looking for advice, but at some point in life you reach an age that money actually does matter, especially if you aren't seeing medical experts. Being the low wage person and participating in modern medical care is quite expensive. Life is expensive. I don't sweat $5 milk, because the milk I think tastes the best is $5 and I'm not compromising the flavor when I do drink a whole glass of it occasionally (versus just recipes), and the coffee I want is $2 more, and the eggs I want are $1 more, and the cut of steak is like $4 more per pound. Such is life.
Make a cut somewhere else in your budget to afford a medically necessary milk but don't cry about $5 being expensive for any milk. That $3 gallon is a loss leader and not even a real price. I also spend $6600/yr for my medical deductible. My sister is a physician and has good insurance too, but her deductible is $7k. It's the norm now.
It might be nice for other people that go to their once yearly checkup and never have to spend a further dime until the following year. Not for me. My copay for the entire year is probably already spent by end of Februrary every. single. year. I see every specialist under the sun (all thanks to covid) and am up to date on all of them most of the time. I'm overdue for a skin cancer screening, which is not optional or vain, that's my hair color sadly. Wear sunscreen.

>>21542247
When I reference lactaid, I'm referencing the popular brand name to the lactase enzyme. If you go to your local drug store(in my case, it's CVS), you will see two brands of lactase on the shelf. One is "Lactaid", and the other is the generic brand. I buy the generics because it's cheaper, but it's still expensive. If you eat dairy every day, you could go through about a bottle every to two to four weeks, and it's about 15-20 bucks a bottle. The bottles have over 100 pills, but you have to take as many pills as you need to prevent symptoms. They suggest about 3 pills per meal. So say you have a 120 pill bottle. Divide by 3, and you have 40 meals. How long can that last if you're having dairy on the regular? Average about 20 days.

And it's not like you can control how well the enzyme works once it's inside of you. How exactly do you ensure the enzyme evenly spreads to all the milk you drank, or the cheese you ate? It's not perfect. That's what I meant when I said I guess it's not neutralizing all of the lactose.

What, does eating this stuff kill you? Just enjoy and doomscroll for as long as you need on the shitter

>>21542272
Aldi brand lactose free milk is less inexpensive. Tablets are for travel/eating out. Checkout the amazon prices on those tabs.

>>21542281
I don't want to wear adult diapers.

>>21542314
You already mentioned blood. So, either you will have some emergency surgery one day, maybe even a colostomy bag, or you get this medically handled. Maybe you need a biologic. They're $1k/month. Do you even have a diagnosis?

>>21542321
The blood stopped when I stopped eating milk products. So I'll probably be fine as along as I don't eat any more milk.
I still remember my first really bad shit. Well my first *few* actually. I was eating cookies and creme ice cream as I loved to do. And I had shits so bad that I must have torn something, and bright red blood dripped out an an alarming rate. But because I'm an idiot, I got more icecream and had more similarly bad shits. And then I finally realized I was lactose intolerant. Which in retrospect makes a lot of sense. I just didn't recognize the symptoms for years. Not until they became so bad that they were impossible to ignore.

After not being able to sit comfortably for a week, the inflammation went away. But whenever I tried to sneak a bit of diary, sometimes a little bit red would return. Not a lot like the first time. Just bit of red dying the turds. But even that small amount was worrying me, so I stopped milk altogether, and the blood stopped.(Except on rare occasions)

But anyway, I'm not seeing any doctors, I have no diagnosis. I'm just going to stop with the milk, and hope that years of clean living will give my bowels longevity.

>>21542183
with intolerance even yogurt is too much. The volume matters more than the amount itself. Its not the lactose directly itself thats the issue its the reaction of it in your gut biome. Its very acidic and the flora start to break it down into lactic acid/sucrose, without having lactose eating bacteria which would break it down into sucrose, fat and glucose. lactic acid as it does in your muscles causes the smooth muscle tissue to contract causing the uneasy bloating and churning sensation. Its a innate chemical reaction you have no control over.
hard cheeses tend to be fine, soft cheese in moderation, butter in moderation. Everything else is shitcan city. Also milk is for babies and manchildren

>>21542405
>Its not the lactose directly itself thats the issue its the reaction of it in your gut biome.
that's why yogurt is usually alright because it has less lactose than fresh milk plus bacteria that break down lactose during digestion

>lactic acid as it does in your muscles causes the smooth muscle tissue to contract causing the uneasy bloating and churning sensation.
i don't have that issue with milk

>Also milk is for babies and manchildren
people who say this are usually vegan or upset that they can't drink fresh milk without getting sick so they're upset and lash out. sorry you can't drink fresh milk tho i guess *sip*

>>21542332
>But anyway, I'm not seeing any doctors, I have no diagnosis.
Well you would know best *rolls eyes* You do realize, any internist or gastro has like 20 years more training than you, right? Why do they put cameras up inside of people, no reason. Just cross your fingers and don't die. What if it's cancer? What if it's auto-immune?

You know you may not even be allergic to milk, that's just your guess from anecdotal evidence. But, a little known fact is that once you do eliminate milk from your diet, you absolutely will stop making the enzyme to digest it, and then you'll be like self-fufilling ignoramus to assume you were in fact allergic all along. The more you know...

>>21542437
>You know you may not even be allergic to milk, that's just your guess from anecdotal evidence.
No, I'm not the one saying I'm allergic. You're the one saying I'm allergic. I'm saying I'm lactose intolerant.

>>21542441
No, I'm saying you stick to that conclusion, and your bloody stool as you self-diagnose and avoid doctors.

>>21542253
I think you're confusing out-of-pocket-maximum with deductible. the national average deductible is like 1700 dollars.

>>21542466
I stick to what conclusion exactly? That I'm allergic, or that I'm lactose intolerant?

I don't get bloody stools anymore. Thanks to simply removing dairy. I think it's pretty clear what the culprit is.

Also, as for doctors knowing better. I actually caught on that triclosan was bad, before the FDA mandated that it needs to be removed. So I think I'm capable of knowing better than professionals. You just have to recognize the symptoms and their triggers.

>>21542497
No, I am not confused. Doctors do not ever ask me for money for co-insurance or negotiated fees. They hit the insurance company behind the scenes, and before I know it, the $6600 happens within a couple of months every new calendar year in lab tests, blood tests, and like one imaging appointment, and like 3-4 pharmacy visits and then I'm done for the year. I probably only cut 1-2 checks to labcorp or Walgreens to do my portion of the bills.

>>21542522
>I don't get bloody stools anymore.
You know this from a stool occult test from the doctor and sent to a lab, right? Because you know you can't see small amounts of blood, correct?

>>21542611
It's fiiiine.
Look, if milk is taking a small unseeable amount of blood, and multiplying it by 1,000, then that means I should be cutting out milk anyway, regardless of what else might be wrong with me.
Blood came and left with milk. I have no reason to think its anything else.