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Anonymous No.21579110 >>21579412 >>21580403
/wg/ - Whisky General
What are the second-best casks to age Scotch in behind sherry casks?
Anonymous No.21579347 >>21582192
QUICK!!!!
POST YOUR BAR TOP!

(Not displayed, 15 Year Springbank that is on my counter)
Anonymous No.21579351 >>21579352
I don't keep bottles sitting around open unless they're rare.

I usually just have 1 or 2 bottles at a time and then I finish them before buying more.

I've got 2 Willletts opened on my wardrobe, but otherwise I finished off a bottle of Elijah Craig last week and haven't bothered picking up anything else since.
Anonymous No.21579352 >>21579360
>>21579351
>I don't keep bottles sitting around open unless they're rare.
Why not?
Anonymous No.21579360
>>21579352
Because I drink them

I buy 2 bottles per month, I usually end up drinking ~1-1.5 of those bottles and share the remaning 0.5-1 bottles with friends/family throughout the month.

I finished off my 2nd august bottle last week, and probably wont bother hitting up the liquor store until the 14th of september (allocation day for the month).


The Willetts are rare/expensive enough that they only get touched for special occasions.


I've also got a Chinese New Year release Johnnie Walker Blue unopened somewhere that I might crack open if I was trying to impress someone who isn't a big whiskey drinker or had some other celebration/event that I didn't want to bother breaking out the Willetts for.
Anonymous No.21579412 >>21579428
>>21579110 (OP)
Trick question in that sherry is the 2nd best cask option behind the clear top dog - ex bourbon… anyway with that said I’m going to be picking up a Madeira finish scotch or 2 to celebrate the 250th anniversary of 1776 because I heard that Washington would enjoy a glass or 2 of that wine with meals… probably will be the Balvenie 15
Anonymous No.21579423 >>21579430
For some reason if I let a bottle get down to about 2-3 pours left and let it sit for 2 weeks or longer, the flavor tends to go noticeably south. Is this just oxidation? Does that happen that quickly? Should I be doing something like letting it air out more after I pour it or storing the bottle upside down?
750ml bottle, artificial corks
Anonymous No.21579428
>>21579412
Ex-bourbon cask Scotches without peat are so fucking boring.
Anonymous No.21579430 >>21579434
>>21579423
It's alcohol evaporation.
>Should I be doing something like letting it air out more after I pour it or storing the bottle upside down?
Absolutely neither of these.
Just drink it quickly once the bottle gets low.
Anonymous No.21579434 >>21579446
>>21579430
2 weeks is enough time for that to happen?
Anonymous No.21579446
>>21579434
It happens faster as the bottle grows emptier. More air in the bottle = more space for evaporated alcohol to occupy. Then when you open the cork it simply goes poof.
Finish off bottles quickly when they get low.
Anonymous No.21579659 >>21579664
Why is so much rye "barely legal"? Seems like the majority common brands are. If I'm drinking rye I want fucking rye.
Anonymous No.21579664 >>21579694
>>21579659
50% rye mash bill whiskies are a lot more NPC-friendly than 90%+ rye mash bill whiskies. NPCs don't like strong flavors. They like "smooth" whiskies.
Anonymous No.21579694 >>21579726 >>21579743 >>21579913
>>21579664
Well, to an extent it's this, but really the answer is that traditional ryes were made in Maryland and Pennsylvania which grew rye, and had people that grew up distilling rye. Those places long ago went out of business. Now everything is made in Kentucky by people who grew up distilling corn and value distilled corn profiles, so that's what they try to achieve in spite of the 51% limitation. MGP is still high rye still you always have that. I've also found 68% rye hh grain to glass on shelves
Anonymous No.21579726 >>21580045
>>21579694
Hey, Sagamore is doing decent stuff
Anonymous No.21579740 >>21579742
just bought 3 whiskeys but no whiskies
i'll sit this thread out for a while
Anonymous No.21579742
>>21579740
which 3
Anonymous No.21579743 >>21579769
>>21579694
Best rye coming through. pure Maryland goodness
Anonymous No.21579769 >>21579774
>>21579743
nah
Anonymous No.21579774 >>21579788 >>21580332
>>21579769
I'm not a huge fan of the standard sagamore, but some of their releases are fantastic.

I had their 9 year rye last year and it was well worth the price.
Anonymous No.21579788 >>21579793
>>21579774
I've only had the double oak. It's different but it's nowhere near any consideration for the best. Taste more barrel than rye with that one
Anonymous No.21579793
>>21579788
Im not huge into super oaked stuff so I never bothered trying the double oak.

I just enjoy buying a maryland made spirit, as a marylander that enjoys bourbon and rye, having a local option is always nice and i'll support them for that alone.

Though they're now owned by an Italian company, at least they seem to be focusing on growing the Sagamore brand instead of just adding it to a collection of brands they own. And since Sagamore is their only american brand, they moved their US company headquarters to baltimore, strongly indicating they plan to grow the brand.
Anonymous No.21579913 >>21580337
>>21579694
HH is slop
Anonymous No.21580045 >>21580076
>>21579726
I lived in the DMV area a few years ago and at the time they weren't doing their own distilling, now that they are I really want to pick up a bottle thats their own juice, I've heard very good things
Anonymous No.21580076
>>21580045
I had one of the early wholly MD-produced batches and I wasn't too impressed, a bit too herbal/mint for me.
Anonymous No.21580332 >>21580682
>>21579774
>I had their 9 year rye
At that age it's gotta be mgp then. They're not an old legacy distillery and were using MGP until very recently
Anonymous No.21580337 >>21580361
>>21579913
G2G at six years may or may not be great, but saying that sentence about the distillery that was the real source for all the high aged willett rye products that people kill to pay $8k for now is pretty silly
Anonymous No.21580361 >>21581097
>>21580337
>dumb idiots spend money on dumb shit
news @11
Anonymous No.21580403
>>21579110 (OP)
My stomach. Pour it down cunt
Anonymous No.21580682
>>21580332
I'm fully aware it was MGP juice.
Anonymous No.21581097 >>21581114 >>21581152
>>21580361
>Something I've never had is objectively overpriced so I have no problem throwing down a blanket statement that the distillery has never made a version of this thing that's even good
But hey I love getting drunk and throwing down immature hot takes too sometimes
Anonymous No.21581114 >>21581128 >>21581379
>>21581097
>throwing down immature hot takes too sometimes
Like what?
Anonymous No.21581128
>>21581114
I'll try to get a few belts in me around 8:00 tonight and come up with something. Don't know if I'm going to top that one though
Anonymous No.21581152 >>21581347
>>21581097
high price =/= high quality
Heaven Hill makes swill
Anonymous No.21581347 >>21581736
>>21581152
I shouldn't even humor this repeated tard-grunting since they're probably my fifth favorite distillery, but just taking something like elijah craig barrel proof off the shelf for $60, go ahead and give us all your expert takedown of its specific flavors and how they are really bad
Anonymous No.21581379 >>21581704
>>21581114
Wild Turkey has never figured out how to get their new new still to crank out the same flavor as the old one or any flavor that's even remotely funky or interesting. The hand dialed one that dated to pre-prohibition, that was retired finally in 2012 so they could make more money, was responsible for everything good, and even the recent batches of Russell's 13 and 15 are the last dregs that still came off of it. So my hot take is that wild. Are probably the best bourbon of the late 20th century, is about to become super boring and average and may never recover
Anonymous No.21581704 >>21581736
I hate alcohol of all types, I did plenty of drinking and collecting and now I hate it.
>>21581379
The whiskey market is peaking in sales right as it is being sanitized and sinking in quality as prices become ridiculous. It’s a terrible time to be buying whiskey. Even high age statement whiskey is trash now and at ridiculous prices.
I see a ton of people buying anything that has a secondary market value higher than msrp too, it’s complete retard behavior. They don’t know what is even decent they just feel like over pay for whiskey is a good deal because the top results on google are stipid secondary market prices. The bubble is going to have to pop eventually and part of it will be from the quality going down making people like me tired of whiskey in general. You can do your part fellow anons by never buying anything at marked up secondary prices and not being a retard.
Anonymous No.21581736 >>21582046
>>21581347
all HH distillate has a noticeable ethanol note making it all taste cheap. it's not worth paying more than $20 for any of their stuff when you can have any Jim Beam or Barton bottle for the same or less.

>>21581704
bubble on the whisky game popped a couple years ago and it's still deflating.
Anonymous No.21581760
Good bottle. Might be too sweet for some people.
Anonymous No.21581762 >>21581770 >>21581853 >>21582967 >>21583975
I kind of want to try it
Anonymous No.21581770 >>21582061 >>21583866
>>21581762
also this
Anonymous No.21581853 >>21582967
>>21581762
My local store will have it this month on allocation day.
Anonymous No.21582046 >>21582294
>>21581736
>all HH distillate has a noticeable ethanol note
okay that's what i thought about you, thanks for trying. you should make sure everyone knows beam is smoother in the total wine review comments
Anonymous No.21582061
>>21581770
Wow!
Anonymous No.21582192 >>21582967 >>21583052
>>21579347
blantons is overrated
Anonymous No.21582294 >>21583050
>>21582046
nigger its tastes bad. it's a known-known.
why do you have such a vested interest in defending shitty cheap whiskey, shill? even the worst Benchmark is better than the best Heaven Hill run.
Anonymous No.21582967 >>21582971
>>21581762
>>21581853
It's pretty fucking good. especially if you can get it under $80
>>21582192
I agree, but I got it as a gift and didn't pay anything for it so whatever.
Anonymous No.21582971
>>21582967
>especially if you can get it under $80
For me it'll work out to ~$64 after taxes.

Depending on what else is available I might pick one up, but on allocated days customers are limited to just 2 allocated bottles. So there might be other things I want more.
Anonymous No.21583050 >>21583179
>>21582294
Honestly at this point, I'm just laughing at your retarded thought process and inability to articulate your feelings in writing. Again, go on the benchmark review comments and say it's smoother than the best heaven hill whiskies. That's your mental level
Anonymous No.21583052 >>21583121
>>21582192
I have no idea why it's even more expensive than buffalo trace. Buffalo Trace is older, more complex, and off by only two proof points
Anonymous No.21583121 >>21583403
>>21583052
>Buffalo Trace is older
It's a blend and that blend can contain bourbon anywhere between 4 and ~8 years old on the higher end.

Blantons is a single barrel product, not blended with any other barrels, and is aged between ~6-8 years, but depends on the exact barrel.

This does lead to more inconsistency between barrels as no two barrels will be identical, compared to regular buffalo trace which is blended from multiple barrels to fit a particular taste profile.

And finally, Buffalo trace is mash bill #1 (89.5% corn, 7% rye, and 3.5% malted barley) which is used for E.H Taylor, George T. Stagg, Eagle rare, Bench Mark, Old Charter, Bowman Brothers, and obviously Buffalo Trace.

Blantons is mash bill #2 ( 87.5% corn, 9% rye, and 3.5% malted barley) which is used for Elmer T. Lee, Ancient Age, Hancock reserve, and Rock Hill Frams, as well as obviously Blantons.

There is also the wheated mash bill (76.5% corn, 20% wheat, and 3.5% malted barley) which is used for Weller, Old rip van winkle, and pappy van winkle.

And finally the rye mash bill (55% rye, 41.5% corn, 3.5% malted barley) which is used for Sazerac, Thmas H. Handy, and Van winkle family reserve.

There is also an E.H. Taylor Rye mashbill but it uses 65% Rye and 35% malted barley with no corn and afaik it's the only one using that mash bill.


tldr; regular buffalo trace and regular blantons are two different mash bills and different product categories, one is a blend trying to hit a specific flavor/taste profile with every bottle, the other is a single barrel product that is meant to be distinct and a bit unique from barrel to barrel.
Anonymous No.21583179 >>21583390
>>21583050
shut up shill
Anonymous No.21583214 >>21586536
I've been enjoying the bourbon whiskey I bought a few days ago. Soon the bottle will be empty, and then once I empty some more, I might open a scotch or a rye
Anonymous No.21583291
I enjoy drinking Jameson black barrel.
Anonymous No.21583390 >>21585008
>>21583179
>I c-can't use big boy words other than one-sentence grunting and mega hot takes so y-you're a shill
Dude I like buffalo trace products, on average matched by age and proof, generally better than heaven hill. I really am just shitting on you for being mentally retarded. If anything, I'm jealous you'll spend your life drinking Beam 4yr peanut oil thinking it's better than parkers heritage, so good on you for that, fucking retard
Anonymous No.21583403
>>21583121
Did you just post "intro to buffalo trace" chat gpt with a bunch of bullshit hallucination in it? What's your source for any of that info: every leaked rough info source I've ever seen including tours has BT at 7-9 and Blanton and at 7-8, and the exact mash bill numbers are not public
Anonymous No.21583806 >>21583815 >>21584542 >>21584554
Just started drinking whiskey. woodford. Can someone explain to me that feeling in the prostate/asshole you get once you start drinking booze? I don't quite know how to explain it. Like my ass is getting relaxed
Anonymous No.21583815
>>21583806
...wat
Anonymous No.21583866 >>21584059
>>21581770
>Last sold in Sierra Leone in 2011
>$3.65 for 5L
Anonymous No.21583975
>>21581762
is that a good beginner whisky? I might want to buy it.
Anonymous No.21584059 >>21585412
>>21583866
It appears as if you are unfamiliar with Kadco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehwSM9n_Ko
Enjoy.
Anonymous No.21584542
>>21583806
CNS depression and vasodilation. Same reason my legs suddenly feel like they're gained a bunch of weight AND someone else's that happen to just be exactly where mine would be
Anonymous No.21584554
>>21583806
whiskey dick
Anonymous No.21585008 >>21585747
>>21583390
>me pay more me better
shut up shill
Anonymous No.21585412 >>21585721
>>21584059
But do they still make Black Booster?
Anonymous No.21585721 >>21586558
>>21585412
Looks like it was replaced in their product lineup with "Black Bull"
Anonymous No.21585747
>>21585008
Yes, you probably are poor, but it's because you're visibly illiterate and stupid and has nothing to do with whiskey
Anonymous No.21586114
enjoying some bourbon
Anonymous No.21586133
just detected a note of cinnamon
Anonymous No.21586536
>>21583214
thank you for this information
Anonymous No.21586558
>>21585721
Ah, the new truly men's hour.