Thread 21579110

What are the second-best casks to age Scotch in behind sherry casks?

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(Not displayed, 15 Year Springbank that is on my counter)

I don't keep bottles sitting around open unless they're rare.

I usually just have 1 or 2 bottles at a time and then I finish them before buying more.

I've got 2 Willletts opened on my wardrobe, but otherwise I finished off a bottle of Elijah Craig last week and haven't bothered picking up anything else since.

>>21579351
>I don't keep bottles sitting around open unless they're rare.
Why not?

>>21579352
Because I drink them

I buy 2 bottles per month, I usually end up drinking ~1-1.5 of those bottles and share the remaning 0.5-1 bottles with friends/family throughout the month.

I finished off my 2nd august bottle last week, and probably wont bother hitting up the liquor store until the 14th of september (allocation day for the month).


The Willetts are rare/expensive enough that they only get touched for special occasions.


I've also got a Chinese New Year release Johnnie Walker Blue unopened somewhere that I might crack open if I was trying to impress someone who isn't a big whiskey drinker or had some other celebration/event that I didn't want to bother breaking out the Willetts for.

>>21579110 (OP)
Trick question in that sherry is the 2nd best cask option behind the clear top dog - ex bourbon… anyway with that said I’m going to be picking up a Madeira finish scotch or 2 to celebrate the 250th anniversary of 1776 because I heard that Washington would enjoy a glass or 2 of that wine with meals… probably will be the Balvenie 15

For some reason if I let a bottle get down to about 2-3 pours left and let it sit for 2 weeks or longer, the flavor tends to go noticeably south. Is this just oxidation? Does that happen that quickly? Should I be doing something like letting it air out more after I pour it or storing the bottle upside down?
750ml bottle, artificial corks

>>21579412
Ex-bourbon cask Scotches without peat are so fucking boring.

>>21579423
It's alcohol evaporation.
>Should I be doing something like letting it air out more after I pour it or storing the bottle upside down?
Absolutely neither of these.
Just drink it quickly once the bottle gets low.

>>21579430
2 weeks is enough time for that to happen?

>>21579434
It happens faster as the bottle grows emptier. More air in the bottle = more space for evaporated alcohol to occupy. Then when you open the cork it simply goes poof.
Finish off bottles quickly when they get low.

Why is so much rye "barely legal"? Seems like the majority common brands are. If I'm drinking rye I want fucking rye.

>>21579659
50% rye mash bill whiskies are a lot more NPC-friendly than 90%+ rye mash bill whiskies. NPCs don't like strong flavors. They like "smooth" whiskies.

>>21579664
Well, to an extent it's this, but really the answer is that traditional ryes were made in Maryland and Pennsylvania which grew rye, and had people that grew up distilling rye. Those places long ago went out of business. Now everything is made in Kentucky by people who grew up distilling corn and value distilled corn profiles, so that's what they try to achieve in spite of the 51% limitation. MGP is still high rye still you always have that. I've also found 68% rye hh grain to glass on shelves

>>21579694
Hey, Sagamore is doing decent stuff

just bought 3 whiskeys but no whiskies
i'll sit this thread out for a while

>>21579740
which 3

>>21579694
Best rye coming through. pure Maryland goodness

>>21579743
nah

>>21579769
I'm not a huge fan of the standard sagamore, but some of their releases are fantastic.

I had their 9 year rye last year and it was well worth the price.

>>21579774
I've only had the double oak. It's different but it's nowhere near any consideration for the best. Taste more barrel than rye with that one

>>21579788
Im not huge into super oaked stuff so I never bothered trying the double oak.

I just enjoy buying a maryland made spirit, as a marylander that enjoys bourbon and rye, having a local option is always nice and i'll support them for that alone.

Though they're now owned by an Italian company, at least they seem to be focusing on growing the Sagamore brand instead of just adding it to a collection of brands they own. And since Sagamore is their only american brand, they moved their US company headquarters to baltimore, strongly indicating they plan to grow the brand.

>>21579694
HH is slop

>>21579726
I lived in the DMV area a few years ago and at the time they weren't doing their own distilling, now that they are I really want to pick up a bottle thats their own juice, I've heard very good things

>>21580045
I had one of the early wholly MD-produced batches and I wasn't too impressed, a bit too herbal/mint for me.

>>21579774
>I had their 9 year rye
At that age it's gotta be mgp then. They're not an old legacy distillery and were using MGP until very recently

>>21579913
G2G at six years may or may not be great, but saying that sentence about the distillery that was the real source for all the high aged willett rye products that people kill to pay $8k for now is pretty silly

>>21580337
>dumb idiots spend money on dumb shit
news @11

>>21579110 (OP)
My stomach. Pour it down cunt

>>21580332
I'm fully aware it was MGP juice.

>>21580361
>Something I've never had is objectively overpriced so I have no problem throwing down a blanket statement that the distillery has never made a version of this thing that's even good
But hey I love getting drunk and throwing down immature hot takes too sometimes

>>21581097
>throwing down immature hot takes too sometimes
Like what?

>>21581114
I'll try to get a few belts in me around 8:00 tonight and come up with something. Don't know if I'm going to top that one though

>>21581097
high price =/= high quality
Heaven Hill makes swill

>>21581152
I shouldn't even humor this repeated tard-grunting since they're probably my fifth favorite distillery, but just taking something like elijah craig barrel proof off the shelf for $60, go ahead and give us all your expert takedown of its specific flavors and how they are really bad

>>21581114
Wild Turkey has never figured out how to get their new new still to crank out the same flavor as the old one or any flavor that's even remotely funky or interesting. The hand dialed one that dated to pre-prohibition, that was retired finally in 2012 so they could make more money, was responsible for everything good, and even the recent batches of Russell's 13 and 15 are the last dregs that still came off of it. So my hot take is that wild. Are probably the best bourbon of the late 20th century, is about to become super boring and average and may never recover

I hate alcohol of all types, I did plenty of drinking and collecting and now I hate it.
>>21581379
The whiskey market is peaking in sales right as it is being sanitized and sinking in quality as prices become ridiculous. It’s a terrible time to be buying whiskey. Even high age statement whiskey is trash now and at ridiculous prices.
I see a ton of people buying anything that has a secondary market value higher than msrp too, it’s complete retard behavior. They don’t know what is even decent they just feel like over pay for whiskey is a good deal because the top results on google are stipid secondary market prices. The bubble is going to have to pop eventually and part of it will be from the quality going down making people like me tired of whiskey in general. You can do your part fellow anons by never buying anything at marked up secondary prices and not being a retard.

>>21581347
all HH distillate has a noticeable ethanol note making it all taste cheap. it's not worth paying more than $20 for any of their stuff when you can have any Jim Beam or Barton bottle for the same or less.

>>21581704
bubble on the whisky game popped a couple years ago and it's still deflating.

Good bottle. Might be too sweet for some people.

I kind of want to try it

>>21581762
also this

>>21581762
My local store will have it this month on allocation day.

>>21581736
>all HH distillate has a noticeable ethanol note
okay that's what i thought about you, thanks for trying. you should make sure everyone knows beam is smoother in the total wine review comments

>>21581770
Wow!

>>21579347
blantons is overrated

>>21582046
nigger its tastes bad. it's a known-known.
why do you have such a vested interest in defending shitty cheap whiskey, shill? even the worst Benchmark is better than the best Heaven Hill run.

>>21581762
>>21581853
It's pretty fucking good. especially if you can get it under $80
>>21582192
I agree, but I got it as a gift and didn't pay anything for it so whatever.

>>21582967
>especially if you can get it under $80
For me it'll work out to ~$64 after taxes.

Depending on what else is available I might pick one up, but on allocated days customers are limited to just 2 allocated bottles. So there might be other things I want more.

>>21582294
Honestly at this point, I'm just laughing at your retarded thought process and inability to articulate your feelings in writing. Again, go on the benchmark review comments and say it's smoother than the best heaven hill whiskies. That's your mental level

>>21582192
I have no idea why it's even more expensive than buffalo trace. Buffalo Trace is older, more complex, and off by only two proof points

>>21583052
>Buffalo Trace is older
It's a blend and that blend can contain bourbon anywhere between 4 and ~8 years old on the higher end.

Blantons is a single barrel product, not blended with any other barrels, and is aged between ~6-8 years, but depends on the exact barrel.

This does lead to more inconsistency between barrels as no two barrels will be identical, compared to regular buffalo trace which is blended from multiple barrels to fit a particular taste profile.

And finally, Buffalo trace is mash bill #1 (89.5% corn, 7% rye, and 3.5% malted barley) which is used for E.H Taylor, George T. Stagg, Eagle rare, Bench Mark, Old Charter, Bowman Brothers, and obviously Buffalo Trace.

Blantons is mash bill #2 ( 87.5% corn, 9% rye, and 3.5% malted barley) which is used for Elmer T. Lee, Ancient Age, Hancock reserve, and Rock Hill Frams, as well as obviously Blantons.

There is also the wheated mash bill (76.5% corn, 20% wheat, and 3.5% malted barley) which is used for Weller, Old rip van winkle, and pappy van winkle.

And finally the rye mash bill (55% rye, 41.5% corn, 3.5% malted barley) which is used for Sazerac, Thmas H. Handy, and Van winkle family reserve.

There is also an E.H. Taylor Rye mashbill but it uses 65% Rye and 35% malted barley with no corn and afaik it's the only one using that mash bill.


tldr; regular buffalo trace and regular blantons are two different mash bills and different product categories, one is a blend trying to hit a specific flavor/taste profile with every bottle, the other is a single barrel product that is meant to be distinct and a bit unique from barrel to barrel.

>>21583050
shut up shill

I've been enjoying the bourbon whiskey I bought a few days ago. Soon the bottle will be empty, and then once I empty some more, I might open a scotch or a rye

I enjoy drinking Jameson black barrel.

>>21583179
>I c-can't use big boy words other than one-sentence grunting and mega hot takes so y-you're a shill
Dude I like buffalo trace products, on average matched by age and proof, generally better than heaven hill. I really am just shitting on you for being mentally retarded. If anything, I'm jealous you'll spend your life drinking Beam 4yr peanut oil thinking it's better than parkers heritage, so good on you for that, fucking retard

>>21583121
Did you just post "intro to buffalo trace" chat gpt with a bunch of bullshit hallucination in it? What's your source for any of that info: every leaked rough info source I've ever seen including tours has BT at 7-9 and Blanton and at 7-8, and the exact mash bill numbers are not public

Just started drinking whiskey. woodford. Can someone explain to me that feeling in the prostate/asshole you get once you start drinking booze? I don't quite know how to explain it. Like my ass is getting relaxed

>>21583806
...wat

>>21581770
>Last sold in Sierra Leone in 2011
>$3.65 for 5L

>>21581762
is that a good beginner whisky? I might want to buy it.

>>21583866
It appears as if you are unfamiliar with Kadco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehwSM9n_Ko
Enjoy.

>>21583806
CNS depression and vasodilation. Same reason my legs suddenly feel like they're gained a bunch of weight AND someone else's that happen to just be exactly where mine would be

>>21583806
whiskey dick

>>21583390
>me pay more me better
shut up shill

>>21584059
But do they still make Black Booster?

>>21585412
Looks like it was replaced in their product lineup with "Black Bull"

>>21585008
Yes, you probably are poor, but it's because you're visibly illiterate and stupid and has nothing to do with whiskey

enjoying some bourbon

just detected a note of cinnamon

>>21583214
thank you for this information

>>21585721
Ah, the new truly men's hour.

I open about 20 bottles of whisky over the course of a year, with 3 of them being particularly nice and spread evenly across the calendar on Christmas / Easter / “start of fall”. Anyway just uncorked that last one this weekend and went with Glen scotia 18. I’m really impressed, it seems to get a lot of 85/100 type reviews but for me as someone who prefers the maritime notes of say, talisker or old pulteney, this checks all those boxes and then some for what ends up being a near perfect dram

Does Cognac and Whisky taste in a similar way?

>>21587737
Younger ones, no.
Many older brandies in general will taste more like older Scotches though as they'll develop similar oaky flavors.

You're as smooth as Tennessee whiskey
You're as sweet as strawberry wine
You're as warm as a glass of brandy
And honey, I stay stoned on your love all the time

>>21587740
I find the fruit pretty bourbon-ish in the high aged ones ones, specifically high-funk dusty bourbons. In fact, if anyone is wondering if they would like dusty bourbon and one isn't available or horribly expensive near you, it's worth trying out an older armagnac because the stanky, chewy rancio flavor is so similar to what you're going to get

Day 500 of hating whiskey and having intense buyers remorse over having a collection of whiskey

I just got hired at a liquor store and I have to say. Why does Bourbon have such snobbery or well maybe thats not the right word but...look I see people go straight for the cognacs if they want to look rich. And the actual rich folks come to the bourbon isle and ask for specific shit like Eagle Rare and Blantons which is never ever in stock, but they ask anyway cause its first come first serve and they REFUSE to drink anything else.

Like cmon you really are gonna tell me that all these hundreds of names and buzzwords like "single barrel" "[x amount] year" "Charcoal" "Oak Barrel" "Bottled in Bond" are all making them taste distinctively different? I call bullshit. I think most taste the same, and the brain just makes up a placebo and people with a cognitive bias or have a sunk cost bias fool themselves into it being something different.

Its like fucking audiophiles and designer clothe faggotry

>>21588286
>ask for specific shit like Eagle Rare and Blantons
>cause its first come first serve and they REFUSE to drink anything else
OK it makes sense where you're going with this.

>"single barrel" "[x amount] year" "Charcoal" "Oak Barrel" "Bottled in Bond" are all making them taste distinctively different?
Lol do you even drink whiskey or understand where it gets its flavor from? When you drink whisky you are tasting grain spirit that gets its flavor from the barrels it's been rested in. That's how whisky fucking works. And two different bottles of whisky, aged differently, in different types of barrels, can and will taste nothing like each other at all.

The specific obsession over Bourbon seems to be a very American thing though, where Americans buy a lot of it because it's much cheaper there compared to other world whisky, but at the same time are obsessed with getting super exclusive bottles of stuff at exorbitant prices to distinguish themselves. This phenomenon doesn't exist much outside the states, nobody gives a fuck about Blantons overseas and people just buy good Scotch instead.

>>21585747
you're brown!

>>21588211
Then why not sell your collection? Even if you don't recoup all you've spent, you'll at least get 50-70% back.

>>21588788
Where do I sell it?

>>21589051
There are other collectors out there anon, you just need to publish a list of what you have and a rough area of where you're located to the right group of people.

Assuming what you've collected is "worth" collecting you might even make some money.

>>21579110 (OP)
>Be me never had a drink or had any reason to drink
>Turn 22 decide to try it
>Go to a bar by myself
>Ask for a drink or whiskey
>Bit mad because they poured into a tiny glass but whatever
>Take mouthful
>Mouth immediately starts burning
>Spit it out.
>Leave out of embassment
Maybe I'm retarded but I don't see the appeal in drinking

>>21589108
>his grandfather didn't give him tastings of scotch from age ~8 onwards

oof, sucks to suck i guess.

By the time I was able to buy a drink I already knew I enjoyed peated scotch more than most others.

>>21589108
a bar is probably the worst place to introduce yourself to drinking unless you are with friends
if you go to a liquor store that provides samples or tasting events, you will typically have a better experience

>>21589108
Based desu

>>21588286
>they REFUSE to drink anything else.
God I hate this shit so much. There's nothing wrong with Eagle Rare or Blanton's (I really do like ER quite a bit if I can find it without a markup) but if you do this you don't care about anything but hype and consumption, especially when there are SO many bottles that are the same price or cheaper and you don't have to waste your time hunting them down.

>>21588286
>>21589212
To be fair, they probably DO drink other shit, but they already have that shit and are out hunting for something specific, which if you don't have, they're just gonna leave and keep hunting.

I tend to hunt for some bourbons too, but I also regularly buy Elijah Craig private barrel releases that are my "standard" so when i'm out hunting, I'm not interested in anything else besides what i'm hunting for, as I already have some Elijah Craig at home.

>>21581736
Heaven hill is good Jim beam is bad simple as

>>21589252
Beam gets a bad rap for no good reason whereas HH is given too much praise for one real reason.

>>21589421
The problem that Jack and Jim have is that most people see it as that cheap stuff they drank in college and got black out drunk on. So they rather drink more expensive stuff and see it as an upgrade

>>21589462
I'd legitimately rather drink Jim Beam Red Stag Black Cherry than Elijah Craig, but also would rather drink Henry McKenna Sour Mash, JW Dant, JTS Brown > Evan Williams BiB 2bh

>>21589508
McKenna 10 is a favorite it’s really good. I’ve tried around a dozen beam products and the only one I even kinda liked was a bookers meant to taste like wild turkey. It’s wild but Jim beam white label might be their most tasty. But for that price I’d just grab ew bib or really slum it with Kentucky gent

>>21589561
Deanston 12 no doubt. I wouldn’t call it great but it’s a must-try and a perfect example for how a non peated bourbon finish scotch can still pack a punch.

henlo i live in dogshit flyover and usually drink islay but am looking to buy a non-heavily-peated scotch that isn’t chill filtered, above 80 proof, no e150a, etc for around $50
everything is overpriced in my region so after 3 liquor stores i found no such bottles at that price but i did find
>deanston 12 and glen grant 12 for $60 (incl. tax)
i could also spend $70 to get
>glenglassaugh 12, arran 10, or craigellachie 13
also for $70 is glenfarclas 10 which I love but I’ve already had it (never tried any others listed) so what should I get instead where I won’t be disappointed in its stead
I have varied taste so it doesn’t need to be similar to glenfarclas or an islay or whatever, just what of those 5 is worth trying and not a ripoff at those prices?

>>21589582
thanks (deleted post to reformat)
I saw on masters of malt it going for $40 so I feel like that’s a big spike, though some total wines in other states were still selling it for $60 so maybe not awful. At the end of the day if $60 is worth it then fuggit that’s the one I was leaning toward anyhow from what I’d read

also saw this hilarious review on total wine for glenglassaugh 12 that almost convinced me there and then
THERE'S TOO MUCH FLAVOR lmfao

>>21589605
>(almost died)
lmao drama queen

Went to Target of all places today because I heard they had Yakisoba flavor Buldak.
They didn't have the Buldak, but they had a Woodford Reserve Double Oaked.
I did not expect to come home with a Woodford Reserve Double Oaked today, but I did, so it was a good day.

>>21589514
I've yet to try Old Crow, but I've heard it pretty rough.

>>21589462
yeah I think the problem is that Beam and JD have their reputation built on their flagship/baseline products and most people don't know that both put out releases/expressions that range from "great for the value" to genuinely great

>>21589605
NPC: the review

>>21589605
A bourbon drinker wrote that review

>>21588597
>stupid
>poor
>projecting

>>21590212
The main thing is that they both have a strong profile that comes through in lower aged products. For Beam, it's a nutty flavor, and for Jack it's minerality. These aren't flaws but you either like them or you don't. By the way, Heaven Hill started using Beams yeast in the late 90s, so their profile has the same nuttiness. They seem to be breeding away from it though because it seems to lose strength every year as they seek a fruitier profile

>>21589582
got the deanston and don't regret it

>>21590781
how's your maga hat collection rajesh

Me likes

>>21592337
Yeah, that amount of flavor at that price point is really something.

>>21590170
Not fancy but a great well whisky for mixing. I prefer crow to a lot of other swill

yum
enjoying this single barrel bourbon

I'm drinking a glass of scotch right now but I have no idea what it is because I didn't pay attention to which bottle I grabbed.

>>21592647
Based

Allocated list for the weekend

>>21593479
Probably gonna pick up a Widow Jane Decadence and a Booker's 25-2.

Total of $188.55 after tax.

>>21593479
tater bait

>>21593537
Its all MSRP and limited to 2 bottles per customer (only 1 bottle of any single item, so you can't get 2 of the same thing).

>>21593489
both widow jane and bookers tend to sit on the shelf at my local grocery store

>>21593547
At what price tho?

The Bookers I see on the shelf are going for well above MSRP ($120-200)

This one is $85.

>>21593553
everything there is msrp

>>21593555
Then you live in a very lucky area, since that's not at all how it is in most places.

>>21593561
I haven't seen EH Taylor, Eagle Rare, or Blantons on the shelf since like 2015 though.

>>21593564
Those are available almost every month for me on allocated days, at MSRP.

I've had blantons 3 times this year, EH Taylor twice, and Eagle rare 4 times.

I'd get the Found North if it wasn't going for $220.

finished off a bottle of bourbon
would definitely buy that again

>>21594085
what bourbon

>>21594100
I'm no shill

>>21594154
Telling someone what you're drinking isn't shilling.

You faggots have destroyed what shilling even means to the point you can't even recognize real shilling.

>>21594160
lol nice try mossad

>>21594154
Unfathomably based

>>21594154
Ah so it was Diageo owned, hence you don't want to mention it and trigger the schizo poster. I understand.

>>21594678
it's a relatively newer 100% family owned distillery
single barrel, high rye mash bill at 115.7 proof, aged at least 4 years
not that diageo trash

>>21579360
Pretty based anon, how is Blue Label anyway?

>>21592337
Based, killer value for money, and it's tasty too.

>>21595331
Eh, blue label actually tastes pretty nice, a bit boring, but certainly not bad. It's certainly not worth MSRP, but it's a good whiskey for gifting (giving and receiving)

>>21595339
>a good whiskey for gifting (giving and receiving)
mmm nyo

Happy friday. If anyone is curious about any of this crap, I'll drink some of it and tell you about it with an honest appraisal

>>21595893
How's the Early Times bib?

>>21595954
Love that callout out of all of them. I'm coming off a weird glass of the Calumet 16 which I usually don't drink but is okay for a taste reference.
Fitting because Barton made that and will be making this soon, going forward. Basically, brown foreman has made this on the early times 354 still since the 70s. It was blended crap for many years, but for the last 4 or so, they were selling these beauties in 1 liter as 4 year ksbw and unlike most of the shit out there it's an old still column with actual quirks:
The nose isn't ancient but it has this really unusual thick maple syrup thing going. It's sugary with tons of honey. The sip has the last two but you get a bit of the grain - it isn't ancient, but it's satisfying. It has just a little bit of funk I'd be worried about going out of the world when it's Barton distillate.
Personally, I have a bunch of it and I love it -great call but grab while you can

>>21595975
Thank you for the review. I want to try it.

I think this is my new favorite

>>21592337
the new master distiller sucks, avoid the ones that aren't Chris Morris bottles

>>21596227
>the new master distiller sucks
I haven't seen any evidence that supports this, pre 2023 releases got shat on by reviews just as much as post 2023 releases under the new master distiller.

Sounds like you're just a retard that thinks women are inferior to men.

What's a good whisky for someone wanting to try it out?

>>21596951
Depends where you live, if you're in europe then irish whiskey and or scotch will likely be the most widely available options at reasonable prices.

If you're in the US, it's probably going to be bourbon.

>>21596580
I had a bottle from the new girl last month, it wasn't as good as previous double oaked's I've had. You're free to grab one and try yourself.

>>21596981
Better palates than yours have already done comparisons.

>>21597032
Then go grab a bottle and find out for yourself

>>21597041
I only like their cask strength shit.

My local will have the newest double double oak release tomorrow, but it's $200 and still proofed down to 90.4, so not my thing.

They've also got a batch proof at 121.9 proof, but again $150 and it's only a 700ml bottle.

At the end of the day there are generally just much more exciting bourbons available at a lower cost.

>>21597041
I don’t drink bourbon

death to all simp faggots

>>21597065
simp faggots drink Jane Walker and care about what reviews from the experts say

2 of my favorite whiskies are j&b rare and talisker 10 year

>>21597530
good taste anon

>>21597055
>At the end of the day there are generally just much more exciting bourbons available at a lower cost.

Yeah, pretty much anon.

>>21593479
I saw 3 people waiting in line at 8pm last night.

They don't open for another 90 minutes.

Not even sure if I want to go anymore.

>>21598312
What are they even waiting for? Nothing on that list is SUPER rare or anything. I guess the Found North is interesting since it has 17, 20, 22, and 24 year old juice in there. But everything else is overpriced or not interesting enough to care about.

>>21598322
I'm assuming the found north and the bookers, but honestly no clue.

>>21598325
Could also be the double double oaked.

I'll never understand people waiting for multiple hours, let alone overnight for alcohol.

>>21598342
I dont even understand why you guys drink this crud

>>21598346
I mean, I enjoy bourbon, I just don't enjoy waiting in lines for multiple hours for it.

Well I managed to get everything I wanted.

By the time I got up to the counter the Found North was gone as well as the Bombergers, but everything else was still available so I got what I originally said I was going to get >>21593489

>>21589583
if youve not spent anything yet, get arran

>>21598532
>already opened the bookers
nice, how is it? I've heard bookers batches can be hit or miss.

>>21598827
Has some nice spice to it, very drinkable despite the relatively high proof and young age.
(7-years, 126.5 proof)

>>21598800
it's definitely been on my radar for a while and I WILL try it one day. either it or craigellachie 13 are likely next. when i travel during the holidays to lands with less fucked prices I'm going to also look for benriach and benromach

wound up getting deanston 12 and I'm really satisfied with it. no gimmicks just honest barley whiskey with full flavor
also instead of buying another bottle of ledaig 10 I went with torabhaig (46%, the cask strength was unfortunately a ripoff at the store) and I really like it as well. almost no "downsides" except the fact that it's young but even then that's not unwelcome- would buy again
also got loch lomond 12 which i described to a buddy as the "jim beam of scotch" referring to its rough, bold, cheap, but soulful character. (jim beam as a distillery not the plastic bottle stuff (which honestly still punches above its weight)) conflicting reports of if it has e150a but just looking at it it seems a little too orange but hey pretty good budget single malt that's not some watery bullshit

>>21598532
just opened the Widow Jane.

Not my favorite, not terrible but quite a bite to the sip with a sweet finish that isn't amazing flavor-wise, but not bad overall.

I'd give the bookers a solid 8.5/10 and the widow jane is a 6.5 or a 7 out of 10.

Bourbon is the biggest meme ever. A $1000 heckin rare allocated bottle from the Buffalo Bill distillery tastes exactly the same as a $30 Maker's Mark. Same flavor profile, same overly sweet corn juice, with maybe INFINITESIMAL nuances. And it's not even bourbon, this applies to ALL american whisky: bourbon, rye, wheated, etc- ALL THE SAME SWEET CORN ETHANOL WATER WHICH TASTES 99% THE SAME AS EACH OTHER

Once you've tried any American whisky, you've basically had them all.

It's really pathetic how ameriknobs collect this crap and go "bourbon hunting" for rare bottles when it's literally all the same crap. Peak goy consoomer behavior.

>>21598998
HHAHAHAHAHAHAH

how the fuck are you going to sit here and claim bourbon and rye taste the same.
You've either never had many ryes, or not had many bourbons, or both.

>>21598998
You know we export the watered down stuff overseas for you people

>>21598998
Ryes can be significantly different, it depends on the mashbill. A 100% rye whiskey doesn't taste like bourbon at all.

But all bourbons pretty much taste the same, and Buffalo Trace is overhyped slop. Don’t let the Taters catch you saying that though.

Finnish whiskey recs?

>>21599183
I personally prefer Start whiskies.

>>21598968
I cant atest for the rebranded Loch Lomond 12, but I like it and The Glengarry 12(basically the same with less new oak in the mix). LL18 is a tasty drop as well even if it is a little more expensive than just a couple years ago. all round solid for the price across the range.

I'd definitely suggest Arran 10 over Craigellachie 13 if full flavor is your jam. imo even the Craigellachie 13 Armagnac is light in comparison.

Benromach is real good, but Benriach is hit and miss.

>>21598998
indeed this is true for most new world bourbons. try something from the National Distillers era and you'll see the difference. still doesnt justify the price gouging on shit, but still.

also try Del Bac and McCarthy's ASM's. much better than run of the mill tater bait.

enjoying some of the jack daniels sinatra select as a celebration :)

>>21599217
sweet cheers thanks for the recs

now that's good

Tonight it's Buffy Trace in a minecraft tnt mug

>>21599443
hell fucken yea

>>21599341
>Jack
>mixed
>sideways image
>Chrome
facepalm.jpg

>>21599939
add Razer techslop to the cringe list

QUICK, GIVE ME YOUR FAVORITE REGIONAL BRAND!!!

>>21600675
Sagamore

>>21600675
jack daniels

>>21600302
And Windows.

>>21600675
Im canadian, shit. I guess uhh Seagrams? it's not bad whiskey by any means

>>21600800
windows can be rather based
ganges/leunuchs lost

>>21599225
>sinatra
lemme guess, a barrel they left out in the sun marketed to separate boomers from their money?

>>21599225
>>21600959
It's supposedly aged an additional year or two over the regular stuff on top of being specifically selected for being the "best" barrels in the rickhouse.

Beyond that though it's overpriced as fuck, i've seen it around $150-250 and it's only "worth" $80-100 at best.

Japanese whisky recommendations?

>>21601133
Yamazaki 18 if you don't care about price and just want a great pour.

feels kinda buzzed off the benchmark (full proof) & barqs

>>21601133
None.

>>21601133
Nikka Whiskey from the Barrel.

Has anybody here ever had the Glendronach Parliament 21-year Scotch? I have a bottle of this and intend to give it as a gift but I have no real way of knowing if it's any good or not because I don't drink and cannot taste any of the flavors in alcoholic beverages. How does Parliament compare to Macallan 18-year sherry cask which the recipient did like very much?

>>21602773
A reddit whisky autist has apparently had 2 of the Parliament 21 year releases, a 2017 bottling and a 2022 bottling.

He rated the 2022 bottling at 85/100 which according to his rating scale;
>80-89 Good; tentatively recommended if the flavor profile suits you

And he gave the 2017 bottling a 93/100
> 90-95 Great; strongly recommended

>>21602773
>>21602780
Glendronach was mothballed for a few years so there was this thing around 2015-2020 where some of the 18 yr allardice and 21 yr parliament were actually older than the label stated. Regardless of the exact bottle it’s a spectacular whisky and I can’t imagine anyone who likes macallan not being blown away by the glendronach

>>21602780
>>21602800
Thank you for your opinions. I don't know what year the whiskey was bottled as I don't see anything on the bottle that suggests the year it was bottled) but I'm assuming it's not the 2015-2020 bottling.

It sounds like this is pretty good stuff my uncle should enjoy it. :)

>>21601152
>18
no, 12 maybe but no year is probably the closest to reasonable price....if youre really saying money doesnt matter then get the 25yr or 50yr

Tried the 25 at their distillery and its like drinking port almost, completely different flavor

>>21601133
Nikka Miyagikyo.

Blackbush isn’t as good as black barrel. The boomers lied to me.

>>21603316
who's to say which one is older as they are probably reasonably similarly aged or the ratio of grain:malt being comparable, but its probably more a preference of Middelton(apple) to Bushmills(banana) flavor profile.

>>21602780
not that I care what reddit thinks, but before de minimus stopped I could have gotten the Parliment delivered for less than $250(telling that it had been sitting around in an online shop for years when it had been all the rage not long before that) when the Allardice is pushing that on the shelf in the states now.

I'd be pissed if I had gotten either as I was kinda let down by the 2022 Revival I got for less the $75 after tax.

just stick with the 12 and try to find an bottling from 2019 or earlier if it's under $60 or source some cask strength if you want to spend more.

havent heard anything about the new lines additions, but they came in high in my market at $100 a pop. FUUUUCK that.

>>21604154
Don't forget Canada barring bourbon imports.

last time i bought a bushmills product it was so sulfuric it tasted like the mosquito poison that gets sprayed by the truck in the neighborhood

when i had a bottle of glendronach 12 i tasted something similar and realized some sherried whiskies taste that way. it wasn't as intense as the bushmill's bottle i had, but whether that was because of my own tastes developing over time, i wonder

it seems you'd never taste that in a macallan sherried whisky, maybe because they have more quality selection of casks

>>21604154
>implying they won't just do it like de beers and release artificially scarce single barrels/new lines
this is the classic song and dance
>new single-barrel whiskey
>distiller goes through and submits the absolute best one for judging
>gets whiskey of the year or whatever
>raise price to 90 dollars, even though almost all of the bottles are way worse than that
every time
they will do everything in their power to prevent prices from going down

>>21604692
Sometimes casks that have been treated with sulfur candles slip through the cracks and that happens.
Glendronach absolutely blows Macallan out of the water in terms of price and flavor at every age point.
Fuck Macallan.

>>21604695
But that doesn't make sense. The prices are all secondary market and don't effect the distillers sales.

>>21604698
yeah, it's best to go with the budget option if you lack the funds for the best. it's sensible

(You)

>>21604695
honestly, it may be the opposite. Less and Less younger people are drinking. Partially due to the price being too much. Lowering prices may help attract people.

>>21604707
you misunderstand, look at Henry McKenna 10yr
>used to be 25 dollars
>wins whiskey of the year
>overnight MSRP becomes 60-100 dollars depending on your market
1792 Cask Strength was the same way, allocated buffalo trace shit doesn't really count

>>21604757
$25 would've been a sale price, at least for me.

It was $30-35 for a long time.

imagine thinking and arguing that $25 from years ago holds the same value as today

>>21604757
yeah, but now I find it at $50 everywhere near me.

>>21604768
To be fair, it was $34.99 (for me) in 2019, it's now $58.99

Inflation only accounts for ~$10 of that difference. So it's $10-15 more than it was 6 years ago and the only difference is it won best in show at a whiskey show in 2019.

Not as bad as the other anon is trying to say (going from $25 to $60-100), but it's still kinda jewish.

>>21604776
if that image is accurate then literally every store and service in my area is ripping everyone off

>>21604757
Right, but the highly sought after stuff is primarily due to secondary pricing. In my area Weller SR sells for anywhere from $75-$150 a bottle despite MSRP being like $25

>>21604780
>literally every store and service in my area is ripping everyone off
Correct. I have found really only 2-3 stores within 30 miles of me that actually sell fair priced items.

>>21604790
I'm not just talking about whiskey, I'm talking about EVERYTHING

>>21604798
what area of the world are you?

>>21604801
the midwest

>>21604803
really? I'm Chicago area and most stuff is fine.

>>21604805
I didn't realize Chicago still had the dollar menu.
over here in reality, those same items cost +100% more than they did in 2019, same with groceries, any contractor work, etc.
The only price that hasn't doubled is maybe vehicles, but nobody is buying those.

>>21603888
That makes sense my favorite whiskey right now is greenspot and I didn’t realize it was made by Midleton.

>>21604817
You're comparing 2000s pricing to 2025, not 2019 to 2025.

>>21604958
a chalupa was 99 cents at taco bell in 2000:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msTykJO1iw
I don't think you remember how cheap things were then

>>21604973
Again, you're delusional.

The dollar menu didn't even exist in 2019

>>21605055
my statement was about prices in general but the only thing you can focus on is the "dollar" menu because the only price your foggy brain can remember is the one in the name of the title

>>21604970
>40%
>700ml
GRIM

>>21605088
US legalized 700ml bottles for the US market in 2021 whereas previously if you wanted to import your european whisky into the US for wide-scale release, you'd need a 750ml bottling which just wasn't something smaller distillers could afford.

700ml has been the standard size in Europe since the 1990s (it being standardized over a bunch of european nations previously all having different size standards). Thanks EU.

>>21605102
>>21605088
Oh yeah, this also means companies that primarily produce for the european market no longer need another bottling line for north america.

But something else it started was now american whiskey makers can start doing special releases in 700ml bottles.
Pic related, Woodford started doing 700ml bottles for their batch proof releases, just because they can.

>>21605102
yeah i mean it's fine in principal but obviously they aren't knocking down the price

>>21600675
Berkshire Mountain Distillers

>>21605104
part of it was because in 2022-23 the "glass shortage" became a meme. regular bottlings get rebottled in the UK since they can legally sell whisky below 40% abv.

>>21604769
because no one is buying it more than once nowadays

>>21604692
bad batches happen. what label was it?

Macallan Sherry is notoriously sulphury these days. Glendronach is like 2/3 the price with double the flavor range and very little(if any) sulphur. Shits a no brainer. the new styling is totally unneeded though.

>>21605318
>bad batches happen. what label was it?
bushmills 16 year
i finished the bottle but it tasted strongly of that the whole way
>Macallan Sherry is notoriously sulphury these days
dang really? i haven't encountered any that way yet
well i'm kind of an iconoclast so i see people hate macallan and i play devils advocate. glendronach is pretty cool though. bought some 15 year after i aced my calc 2 class last year and it was delightful, a bit soft around the edges. i have a bottle of macallan 15 year i'm going to open once i work through a couple more open bottles. it was the first scotch i ever bought, as a gift for my brother, way before i ever started delving into the hobby

>>21605415
that macallan might be worth more than you paid for it

New riff has ugly bottles yet the juice is tasty. Weller lottery coming up but I never win I think it’s rigged. Surely the tariffs and bourbon boom dying shit will mean allocated stuff is easier to get but so far it’s just as impossible to find meme whisky

Whiskey needs a proper price crash. They keep raising prices and it’s absurd.
Everyone stop buying it.

>>21605635
these arrived in StL the last couple days ago. NAS and sub 10 year old scotch for $100 after tax? nah.

they did also get Torabhaig Allt Gleann for $50 which I might get if the reviews are favorable.

>>21605635
I think that’s on the horizon sooner than later the economy is screwing everybody lmao

>>21579110 (OP)
Sherry is truly the goat cask for anything. I’m primarily a bourbon drinker but the sherry finish scotch, Irish and bourbon in that order taste impeccable. I had a sherry finished tequila that was awesome. Why doe sherry suck to drink?

>>21605725
i don't think it sucks to drink at all

>>21605722
I noticed prices for Koloa Hawaiian rum near me had dropped from $105 to anywhere from $85 to $95 depending on the store

>>21605415
>well i'm kind of an iconoclast so i see people hate macallan and i play devils advocate
Well now that you've realized you're a faggot you can start putting the work in to change yourself.
People shit on Macallan in relation to Glendronach because, across all year points, the latter is simply way more flavorful while simultaneously being much less expensive.
People shit on Macallan because Macallan INTENTIONALLY prices itself higher than it's worth to make it seem better than it is, to make it a status symbol item.

>>21605725
Sherry cask aged spirits don't actually end up tasting like sherry. The differences in flavor between, say, sherry cask aged Scotch and bourbon cask aged Scotch are down to the differences in wood type used and the fact that the sherry cask's wood has not been charred.
The spirit that a cask used to hold has negligible impact upon the flavor of what it ages next. It's ALL about the wood.

>>21605780
kek tastelet. some sips of a sherried whisky literally taste exactly of sherry. you're so full of shit
>>21605776
sales don't lie. the market likes macallan at its price. the echo chamber that is online whisky culture loves to champion glendronach over macallan but everyone actually knows macallan has superior quality control and can justify their price

>>21605794
>some sips of a sherried whisky literally taste exactly of sherry
They taste like the aspects of sherry's flavor that come from wood.
They don't taste the aspect of sherry's flavor that come from grapes.
Age just about anything else with a similar amount of alcohol in that same cask for the same amount of time in the same conditions and the Scotch you age in it afterwards will end up tasting the same.
>sales don't lie
People are fucking dumb. That's WHY they INTENTIONALLY price it higher than it's worth. Because the psychology works. Because people are fucking stupid.

>>21605725
the casks that the sherry bodegas themselves are no longer old world wood. up to the whisky loch, the wood used to mature sherry was over 200 years old(some some in the 400-600+ range but sometimes the super old one require a delicate touch in both the coopering and maturation) and these days the European oak being harvested is bare minimum 150 years and from less desirable locales. American oak is the same way and a considerable amount of the wood being sourced is coming from Ozark National Forest for Brown-Forman and Suntory-Beam, the specifications are that the tree must be at least 150 years old(i.e. so many rings per inch), must be at least 125 feet tall and must live in the shadow of trees at least 150 feet tall. from there the cooperage will prep the barrels with a #3 char level after being flash toasted. that wood is then sent to the UK in flat pack(disassembled), recoopered and sometimes sent to Spain for sherry seasoning, but more often these days they will have sherry syrup shipped in and they will recycle the juice into a multitude of barrels for a quick rinse and retoasting.

tl;dr it's very superficial to meet increased demand(which dwindled as sherry made for drinking virtually died 40 years ago).

>>21605794
Edrington Group shill detected. only Asians fall for "The Macallan is upper class" meme.

The Macallan-as-status-symbol thing goes back a long time. There's an old Ralfy video where he explains that waaaaaaaaaaay back in the day in the UK, the common wisdom among folks was that the poor drank Famous Grouse and the rich drank Macallan.
This has nothing to do with Macallan's quality and everything to do with Macallan's pricing strategy.
Macallan's pricing makes it seen by stupid consumers as something desirable.

>>21605802
nah, you're wrong bro, i can taste the grape
why would they specifically season casks with sherry for the purpose of sherry cask aging
cognac finished whiskies taste of cognac
port finished whiskies taste of port wine
you are 100% wrong about this

>>21605812
Nah, you're wrong bro, you can't taste the grape. You're placebo effecting hard bro. Bro.
>why would they specifically season casks with sherry for the purpose of sherry cask aging
So they can legally say it's sherry cask aged.
>cognac finished whiskies taste of cognac
LOL
No. Cognac is a very gentle spirit. You ain't tasting shit from that.
You are 1000% wrong about this.

>weebshit
consession accepted

>I am stupid enough to complain about anime on an anime website
Retardation conceded. Qualifications to speak on any subject other than eating boogers obliterated.

>>21605818
this dude has never had sherry or cognac, or is such a tastelet that he can't speak on taste and only on (false) theory
you're just objectively wrong if you think that the spirit aged in that cask doesn't matter. the spirit changes the chemistry of the wood

https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/opinion-debate/the-debate/19020/do-a-cask-s-previous-contents-matter/
>Do a cask’s previous contents matter?
Here, two people give opposing opinions on the question.

>NO… not really: Stuart MacPherson, Master of Wood, Edrington
>‘”No” is probably too strong a word, because what was previously in a cask does have an influence on the whisky... Our belief is that it does have an impact on the development of the liquid and the flavour, but it’s not as much as people think.
>‘I normally tell people that the contribution of the cask is really multi-layered. For me, there are three main drivers, starting with the geographic origin of the oak, down to the terroir it grew in – the soil, hillside and so on.
>‘Then there’s the cask construction – its size, shape and the treatment of the wood, all of which can significantly influence the flavour of the whisky.
>‘After that there is the previous use of the cask, and therefore how active it is.’
So, he states that the three main factors, in order from most to least important, are the wood, the cask construction, and the previous use of the cask.
If you read his entire explanation, you'll see he explains that the influence from the previous use of the cask comes entirely down to what the previous spirit extracted or didn't extract from the wood, and has jack shit to do with any flavor added to the cask from the spirit.

The person giving the opposing opinion is a whisky and food writer, not someone who actually makes whisky for a living, and, more importantly, a woman. Opinion disregarded.

>>21605780
>Sherry cask aged spirits don't actually end up tasting like sherry
>The differences in flavor between, say, sherry cask aged Scotch and bourbon cask aged Scotch are down to the differences in wood type used and the fact that the sherry cask's wood has not been charred
>The spirit that a cask used to hold has negligible impact upon the flavor of what it ages next.
>It's ALL about the wood.

>>21605838
>”No” is probably too strong a word, because what was previously in a cask does have an influence on the whisky... Our belief is that it does have an impact on the development of the liquid and the flavour, but it’s not as much as people think.

so he's saying the previous spirit of the cask is secondary to the wood, while you're saying it doesn't matter at all

glad we could come to an understanding :)

my inifnity bottle is really delicious these days. wish i could remember what i put in there in the past year but i have no clue

>>21605845
I was right when I said the following things:
>Sherry cask aged spirits don't actually end up tasting like sherry.
>Age just about anything else with a similar amount of alcohol in that same cask for the same amount of time in the same conditions and the Scotch you age in it afterwards will end up tasting the same.
>Nah, you're wrong bro, you can't taste the grape. You're placebo effecting hard bro. Bro.
>No. Cognac is a very gentle spirit. You ain't tasting shit from that.
I was wrong when I said the following:
>The spirit that a cask used to hold has negligible impact upon the flavor of what it ages next.
I was wrong because I didn't remember the article posted in >>21605838 correctly.
The spirit that was previously in the cask before it impacts the flavor of the whisky that's aged in the cask afterwards, but not by adding flavor to it. It's all about what that spirit did or did not remove from the cask, flavor-wise.
I was partially wrong, based on my faulty memory of the article I hadn't read in years, but I was much more right than you.

>>21605856
no, still wrong. it absolutely adds flavor to the cask. it saturates the cask with compounds the whisky later pulls out. macpherson doesn't say it's negligible, he says it's secondary. he's basically taking the piss out of marketers/enthusiasts who get so hung up on finishes. he essentially says it's not so much of an impact that he could confidently blind taste the difference between oloroso and amontillado, not that the sherry doesn't matter

you can taste raisin and from sherry casks because of the sherry's influence on the cask. furfural, sotolon, acetaldehyde, and more

>>21605868
Read what he said again.
At no point does he mention the spirit adding any flavor to the cask.
He explicity says,
>‘After that there is the previous use of the cask, and therefore how active it is.’
He's attributing the previous cask use influence solely to what it does and does not extract from the wood.
At no point does he mention the spirit adding any flavor to the cask.

it's only negligible if you are attempting to dissect something that was produced from a vatting of hundreds of barrels as subtlety in that aspect will likely be blended out.

if you were inspecting a single barrel that was heavily charred and only used once for bourbon, you will absolutely taste a corny sweetness, even if its young heavily peated single malt. I have experienced this numerous times.

>>21605880
Full placebo effect.

>>21605878
if 'activity' only meant subtraction then finishing in port vs sherry vs px wouldn't matter as they use the same species and toast level and yet it matters. the sherry is not only subtracting it is also adding

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00226-023-01478-2

so you were wrong about literally everything because you chose to use absolute vocabulary while i was probably wrong about tasting the grape itself

dont feed the troll

>>21605890
>hey look this science says shit you can't taste is added to it
If you could taste that shit, MacPherson would have mentioned flavors being added to the casks. He did not. Because you can't taste that shit.
You status: wrong.

>>21579110 (OP)
Madeira

>>21596227
>>21596981
yeah I thought their was a noticeable difference less like birthday cake spices and way too wood forward.

shame because it was one of my favourite bourbon's

>>21606005
>wood forward
Yeah, I don't mind this at all.
I fucking love wood.
No homo.

>>21605850
When adding to the infinity bottle, do you wait to add the last 1-2oz of the new bottle? I’ve heard the last 1-2oz of bottles tend to be “worse” due to all the air inside the bottle (I haven’t noticed any drastic differences), so some people don’t add the last ounces of a new bottle, they add when the new bottle is closer to halfway.

>>21606320
I've only ever added at or near the end of a bottle. I'd tasted it halfway through filling it and it was so funky and weird in the wrong ways but whatever I topped it off with since then put it in a better direction. It tastes good. The finish is thin but I think that's to be expected

the plain, cold, flame grilled burger reminds me of the leftovers taken home from high school football games. it pairs well with the whiskey, but not sure if the whiskey pairs well with it

thin legs. on the nose: whiskey, alcohol, burnt wood, grape-nuts cereal, cigarette smoke soaked into a musty armchair, nilla wafers with banana pudding
pallet: whiskey, barley, burning, a hint of bitterness
finish: lingering smoke like when you spent last night at a campfire and your clothes still smell like it

pairing with the burger brings out more vanilla with an undertow of waterlogged wood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WO3scR3YM

>>21606583
oops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WO3scR3YMs

mouthfeel and finish is pretty alright. it really saturates, not oily but not thin. supple, perhaps

it's a lil spicy

really starts to grow on you 4-5 pours in

Some people have a gift for describing not whiskey, but not >>21606583
He describes it as tasting like whiskey and burning.

>>21579110 (OP)
no aberlour abunadh
ah alright

>>21606583
I highly highly doubt your notes. Have you ever had peated scotch?

>>21606739
>tasting notes: cinnamon mouthwash

>>21606789
yes many
i should have been more clear - you didn't just spend the night by the campfire, but you doused it with water and it kept burning and you kept throwing water on it to make sure the woods didn't burn down
it tasted a lot of burnt, wet wood, not ardbeg's crunchy campfire smoke. but i did get a bit of cigarette smoke in there. if anything it tasted kind of like jura 10 but think more burnt wet wood and less smoke
as i got an alcohol buzz some of the spice burn and sweetness came out

>y-your tasting notes are wrong!
>did you even google them first?

>>21606922
i was just being silly that it smells like irish whiskey smells :) like barley/cereal. caught the autists who think whiskey tasting is only for practicing seriousness

I'll link my youtube series here when I launch it. I'm going to review the entire bottle instead of a half ounce sip. idk why that isn't common

It's a bit rough and smooth

>>21607155
what is

It tastes of le vanilla and stonefruit. feel free to fact check as I already have
Yes I'm sort of a sommelier

I drank this all in one day after doing a drinking game and ended up blacking out. Felt sick the whole day after. Do not reccommend, it was good going in but its making me gag thinking about it coming back out

>>21607005
>review the entire bottle instead of a half ounce sip
drink it all in one sitting and deny the holocaust

>>21607454
Based

>>21607290
Sounds rough.

this bottle has been good to contemplate today. i'll miss it. every pour, i taste something a little different. notably, on the nose, sniffing the fumes directly from the bottle, i've gotten brown sugar and pancake syrup, and on the front there is definitely some good buttery pancakes with pancake syrup. mid-back palate there's something like some dark loaf cinnamon apple bread that grandma left in the oven too long but we appreciate her so we don't just tell her it tastes good, it TASTES GOOD because it was made with love. with a heat like you were making mac and cheese and put 2x the cayenne the recipe called for in the roux and it's not enough to really light you up but when you swallow it you know it's there - it's got a bite

i don't think the holocaust happened. 6 million is a symbolic number that had been repeated since the turn of the century and census data shows an increase in jewish population over the timeline before and after the war, not decrease. many of the photos we were shown growing up being taught about that stuff were proven to be doctored. zyklon b was used for delousing because of a typhus outbreak. most people will never even consider it because of the cognitive dissonance involved in rejecting something so fundamental to our teachings in school and also just out of self preservation of not wanting to be 'one of those guys'. they talk about this batty stuff like masturbation death machines and these minecarts that launched you into a furnace at the end. to me it's just something else to make you grow up thinking your heritage as a white man is so stained and awful, because white people have empathy and it's a weakness that can be exploited. they want you to reject your family roots, reject your heritage, and just be defeated and pay taxes. everywhere in the world everyone notices racial differences but you're taught in your job orientation that it's hateful to even mentally acknowledge race

next up is old ezra 7 year barrel strength

>>21607648
HH brother

>>21607652
good old heaven hill. might have to get a bottle of ECBP which is aged like 11 years for comparison

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINGS I SAY ON TWITTER
NIGGA FUCK DIAGEO

>>21579446
Or if you're not an alcoholic you can put it into a smaller bottle.

Anyone else has experience with Octomore, I tasted few different ones and they were great.

On a semi-unrelated note /ck/ might owe at least a small apology to Bongistanian cuisine, I had fish and chips at a local pub that serves britbong scran after I was out tasting whiskeys and it's delicious if you're heavily intoxicated.

>>21607702
Topkek

>>21608334
>Anyone else has experience with Octomore
Yes, a bit too peat for me, but not horrible.

>>21608334
I drank a bottle of Octomore 10.2 (8yr Sauternes finish) a couple years ago. Thought it was excellent but I seem to have a heavy psychological bias about a whisky’s age I just can’t bring myself to shell out 200 bones for these new 5 year Octomores idc how good they are

>>21602448
How good is the taste for Nikka Whiskey from the Barrel?

9:45AM opening next Thursday.

If I want any of the rarer bottles i'd probably need to be there by 7AM.


Not sure it's worth it.

>>21608713
>Willett 12yr CAT 3
67.9% abv / 135.8 Proof
$582

>Willett 12yr Part-Time Maison Rye
61.7% abv / 123.4 Proof
$582

>Willett 11yr Sugar on Snow
62.2% abv / 124.4 Proof
$514

>Elijah Craig 18yr
45% abv / 90 Proof
$144

>Double Eagle Very Rare
45% abv / 90 Proof
$3,927

>E.H. Taylor
50% abv / 100 Proof
$73


No idea why they seperated out the Double Eagle and E.H. Taylor and THEN say "Buffalo trace bourbon" cause E.H. Taylor and Eagle rare are both Buffalo Trace products.

And the regular buffalo trace bourbon isn't allocated, so they can only be referring to shit like Blantons, Weller, Stagg, etc but they aren't publishing a list.

>>21608730
EH Taylor is being stacked up all over cuz its mid and certainly NOT worth 2x standard BT

>>21608764
I mean, around here it's still allocated and sells out, but it's available basically every month.

And I agree, it's not worth ~$40 more than the standard buffalo trace.

>>21608334
>Anyone else has experience with Octomore
All I’ve tried have been fucking fantastic, and I consider the 15.1 to be the greatest scotch I’ve ever tried in my life

*blocks your path*

>>21609198
>unpeated
That’s a path I’m not taking

>>21609232
I never viewed drinking piss as a "manly" fetish but you do you

>>21605102
It's more because what's meant to be a premium whiskey is still watered down to match the proof of cheaper offerings

>>21609810
Back to watery baby formula for you

Some AZN sold me on this, said it was wheated and creamy. Is it any good