Thread 21646400

I'm totally turned off of farm meat. The mommy pigs aren't allowed to move and must feed their whole lives without walking. What the fuck? I'm not eating pork again.

still haven't watched chicken or beef farms...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8doxreBB0E&t=922

>>21646400 (OP)
Not their whole lives. Only when theyre breastfeeding because momma pigs will crush and eat their babies. It's a cruel way to protect the offspring to maximize profits in the long run.

>>21646400 (OP)
But yeah. Cheap factory farmed pork is definitely one of the cruelest forms of meat. Pigs are very intelligent. With all animal products you can pay a premium and get the ethically raised stuff. It tastes way better and is healthier too!

>>21646410
depending on where you live and if you have the freezer space, you can also buy pig and cow shares from local farms.

>>21646427
Thats probably the best way to do it.

>>21646400 (OP)
there's welfare laws for pigs here (uk)

Livestock are a resource not your pets, as long as the quality and safety/hygiene of the finished product isn't impacted drastically you shouldn't care about the process.

Mass farming gives you fast, cheap meat. If you want higher quality from smaller scale farming then be ready to pay the price.

Having sympathy for food is mental wankery, you hurt yourself for no reason doing so. If the result is the same you lost your time with pointless efforts, the result is what matters what you're doing this for. You raise these animals for the meat they produce upon being slaughtered.
Be factual and reasonable, do not give it to pointless empathy and puerile, senseless emotions.

>>21646470
inability to empathise is a sign of autism

>>21646484
I keep my empathy for things that deserve it, not my food.

>>21646470
/thread
I enjoy cheap meat
>>21646484
You're empathizing with swine. That's a sign of retardation

>heh, I'm so smart and reasonable
death to cityslickers

>>21646500
Caring about livestock' feelings is peak cityslicker behavior

>>21646500
Listen here buddy. I'm from the countryside. My family had no hogs but a good friend of mine had. Couple pigs in a barn, "traditional methods" et al. You know what they did with their unbounded freedom?
Mainly sit in their shit and get bit by flies. If you think they're smart I must be a fuckin genius to you.
But seriously, what kind of genetic dead end is empathetic to pigs? That's something wrong with you. Your task as a man is to hunt animals for meat. If you're gonna let them off because of some sort of empathy you're no good to the family. Might as well be a woman.

>>21646500
My BiL calls them citiots

>/ck/ seeing brown people prepare food with poo smeared hands
>"ew do thirdies really"
>/ck/ seeing vacuum sealed food in the supermarket, prepared by brown people with poo smeared hands
>"Yum! And so cheap!!!"
And every time a food scandal like Hogshead happens you lot are looking the other way. Mass produced, cheap meat is pajeet food in spirit, and the industrial revolution just meant proles get to have the poo put in their food where they don't see it

>>21646552
Go back to Leftypol you fucking pinko

>>21646484
You empathize with the idea of a pig you've created in your mind from a youtube documentary. Go be an actually useful human being and go help the people in your life instead.

>>21646402
This. Sows sometimes roll on the other side while breastfeeding, and piglets might not unlatch from the teats in time to avoid momma flattening them.

How do I identify in the supermarket which meat isn't gonna give me depression is I think about it for too long? Like are there brands/farms I should look for? I'm in Florida. Yes I'll pay the extra.

>>21646522
"People" will say their cats are smart then watch it swipe at aquarium glass for hours

>>21646470
the quality is impacted pretty drastically. if an animal is unhealthy and unhappy it makes for products that not only taste worse but are worse for you too.

this kind of mentality feels like a very modern thing where people are completely detached from their food source. i can't imagine people on farms raising their own animals that they have direct contact with every day and actually have to care for and keep them safe and healthy would say things like this.

>>21646679
>animal QOL
People who run large-scale farms take that into consideration long before spending hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars on a setup. 99 percent of the time, animals are not emotionally impacted or stressed out whatsoever. The only real compromises made are gestation/farrowing crates, calf isolation pens, and separate chicken/chick/egg housing because animals are terrible parents and will often kill their young for no reason

>>21646470
Lol this is how we ended up fucking up a good chuck of usable land across the globe by not giving a shit about the process. The most short sighted mouth breathing thought process you can have about anything

>>21646400 (OP)
Based.

>>21646565
nothing i said is partisan, tel aviv shill.

>>21646552
>implying unchecked immigration by the filthy brown horde was an inevitable consequence of the industrial revolution
Yeah, nah faggot, that's unequivocally partisan bullshit. Go back to leftypol.

>>2164674
not what i said, zogbot. This is not about immigration but food regulations, and especially their enforcement. Food adulteration and factory farming are both older than brownoid spam. But the reality is that you are willing to eat foot lettuce and poop ham.

>>21646400 (OP)
>The mommy pigs aren't allowed to move and must feed their whole lives without walking
then how did they reach adulthood, you fucking idiot?

>>21646470
>If you want higher quality from smaller scale farming then be ready to pay the price.
This is a fine trade-off for any form of food. Instead of being a debt-slave to pay for unnecessary shit pay for quality stuff that won't kill you or destroy your country. Which is perfectly doable if you don't insist on living in a tiny goybox in an overpriced city and buying into every new trend.

>>21646522
>I spent 2 minutes looking at my friend's pigs in a barn.
>I know for a fact they are stupid animals.

No. You are the stupid animal. Lol

Piggy oink oink yummy goes in my tummy

>>21646400 (OP)
I don't eat meat simply because it's unhealthy and gross and a pain to store and prepare. I much prefer eating beans.

>>21647165
I have hundreds of pounds of dry beans in my bedroom just in case.

>>21647166
Unmarried farty

No one cares about pigs. The best we've got regarding legislation is that sows have to be kept a certain distance apart for their pork to legally be sold in California.

>>21646470
>sympathy for food
i think i have sympathy for the conscious experience being tormented. I'd probably be more open to this if the mind of the animal were anesthsitized their whole lives or something

What's the scientific consensus on halal slaughter? Outside of bloodletting which looks gruesome ive heard alot of muslims say its painless due to immediately lack of bloodflow/oxygen to the brain of xyz animal

>>21647199
it's fucking retarded, the animal is obviously feeling pain because it's still conscious. you must be brown, kys shitskin

>>21647199
>Muslim intellectuals
It's barbaric, like everything else in sand people culture.
I buy local and farm raised, period. I can't in good conscience buy anything factory farmed or halal/kosher. I don't, and wouldn't, push it on anyone, but I simple can't do it.

>>21647193
They're not you, they're not your family, they're not your people, they're not your pet.
They're food, what they feel is just information and you should only care if it degrades the meat you will slaughter them for.

>>21647212
Cringe pseud.
Don't you have some spec ops larping to do or something.

>>21646679
Heard multiple times that pigs suffering before being killed makes for a tastier meat.

>>21647201
No need to be a cunt i was just wondering you fucking coon

>>21647217
Opposite is true.

>>21646552
It's a total bitch to get paperwork in good order to be able to export meat from third world countries to... well pretty much any country doesn't matter if its poor or rich. So yeah, if brown people want to sell meat to a white country they will take good care of it but that same brown can settle in the same white country and spread his retarded genes however he wants.

>>21647222
It is most likely just a myth, I agree.

>>21647232
>>21647217
It's chink lore.

>>21647216
No argument? I'm just stating facts

>>21647236
this, chinks think bitter = medicinal so torturing animals to make their meat bitter from stress = better more medicinal meat. see all the vids of chinks beating dogs or skinning them alive or boiling alive in oil

this Canadian/American farm reality is not much better than Chinese lore

>>21647232
It is a myth. The last thing you want from any animal is a surge in adrenaline and cortisol before slaughter.

>>21647272
i remember the webm when swine flu hit chongland and the bulldozed live pigs into the fire pits.
you must be nu canadian to excuse their shit

>>21646470
>Having sympathy for food is mental wankery
It becomes your food but is an animal that feels pain before that. You jump through hoops to minimize that which shows you don't believe the words you type.

>>21646400 (OP)
>What the fuck? I'm not eating pork again.
more for me.

>>21646679
People used to stuff animals with food beyond any reason so much that we figured out duck liver made this way is fuckin delicious. You're a retard if you think people gave a single shit about "muh poor animal" or whatever
The modern phenomenon is livestock (goyim) empathizing with other livestock.

>>21647471
It's geese and they'll gorge themselves the french method just helps it along. They'll get fatty liver anyhow if you let access to that much food. Although less reliabily

>>21647199
If they wanted it to be painless then they'd cut the spinal cord. Halal sandniggers explicitly avoid touching the spinal cord so the animal is guaranteed to feel LOTS of shock/pain for the seconds before it passes out

>>21647471
back when people didnt care for lean cuts but actually making it over the winter (fat used as preservent), the slaughter weight of a pig was easily double of today

Don't care hotdog yummy

>>21647684
There's also lard pigs that naturally get fatter than other breeds meant more for meat production. You can harvest 3+ inch slabs of pure fat off them. It's crazy. Not as desireable or economical today because lard is a lot cheaper than lean meat.

This is clearly abuse! We need to add a ipad screen with tiktok so they get entertainment. Fat, lazy, scrolling endlessly and being fed slop. Just like an HR department, true empowerment.

>>21646470
Pigs are as intelligent as dogs, maybe moreso in some ways. Absolutely insane to see them as a resource unworthy of empathy.

>>21646519
It's the opposite, family farms will generally treat their animals better, while factory farms are just conglomerates owned by urbanites who never worked on a farm. The stockyard system and industrialized slaughterhouses were developed in Chicago. Read the fucking book The Jungle. Animals would be shipped by trains to the Chicago stockyards then slaughtered en masse by fresh off the boat European immigrants. Now we have CAFOs all over the country, and the slaughterhouses are populated by illegal Latino labor. What about our current system is traditional or natural at all? Not to mention factory farming and industrialized agriculture has largely destroyed the rural way of life in America and Europe.

>>21647873
People in the country also know that well raised meat is way tastier than factory farmed, and will usually raise a cow or a couple pigs to stock their freezer.

>>21647873
You can also go to a 4H auction and buy some kid's pet pig, cow, goat, or sheep and you know the meat will be delicious.

>>21646400 (OP)
Chicken farms are having their rooster-culling machines shut down, so they're leagues more humane than they were a couple years ago.

neither food nor cooking

>>21648232
get bent habibi

>>21646400 (OP)

Who brainwashed you?

>>21646519
A livestock farmer not caring about his animals is the same as a carpenter not caring about his tools. They'll both be shit and out of work very quickly

>>21648229
What are they doing with the roosters? Raising them as regular chickens for meat, or are they castrating them to revive the capon fad?

>>21646400 (OP)
bro this is inhumane

>>21647808
>Not as desireable or economical today because lard is a lot cheaper than lean meat.
today, lard is a waste product. if you sell a pig for market price and its over the agreed weight limit, they deduction part of the sales price

>>21646470
satanic post

>>21646400 (OP)
Go watch this yt channel to see how ethical farming is done: https://m.youtube.com/@SowtheLand

>>21646400 (OP)
I love me some pork chops. Who cares about factory farming? It produces lots of food for minimal resources. Even in terms of animal welfare it is arguably better than living in the wild. Because many, if not most of those piglets would die before they become adults. Even the mother sows live comfortable lives. They are alway warm, don't have to defend against predators or find shelter against the elements, always have enough food and get healthcare.

>>21647193
Go and try to teach a pig how to write. They won't even pay attention. They are bio robots.

>>21646410
Pigs Are very intelligent and thats why we gotta eat them.
Fuck Oinkers,Total Oinker BBQ

>>21646400 (OP)
Yeah it's sad, but I'd be more sad not eating meat and being a vegan faggot. The end

>>21646410
>pigs are very intelligent
they arent that smart

>>21650385
Neither are you, I'm afraid.

>>21646488
What things deserve your empathy?

>>21647853
This.
>>21649436
This too. Both good posts.

>>21650289
This is insane logic, would you argue human slavery is a good thing because they're provided for with food and shelter?

>>21646500
>>21646522
>>21646470
>tough guy replies

honestly they should just ban factory farming

>>21650420
Historically many people willingly went into slavery to have food and shelter provided or to erase debts. The narratives that circulate in vegan echo chambers are extremely flawed and ignorant.

>>21646400 (OP)
Then eat lamb and wild seafood. Lamb is pasture raised, so are cows.

Eating animals (especially mammals) is immoral and sinful.

>>21650492
According to what cult?

>>21646629
>This. Sows sometimes roll on the other side while breastfeeding, and piglets might not unlatch from the teats in time to avoid momma flattening them.
Like a skinny white guy and his black queen.

>>21650471
And people by and large are okay with being slaves. That's why they parrot whatever narrative is being pushed.

Only in the past year did slaves start complaining en masse about pedophilia on 4channel.org and it's because they are a slave breed devoid of empathy past what they are told to empathize with.

>>21650516
Shut up.

>>21650492
You'll never sleep well again once you've experienced the trauma of a carrot shrieking in pain.

>>21650492
I would eat humans if the law allowed it. Nigga I don't give a fuck.

>>21650571
Big words from a slave

>>21650579
Plants and vegetables do not and can not feel any pain, feelings or emotions whatsoever.

>>21650598
Check you mammalian privilege

>>21650597
I know that vegans believe that all non-vegans are sheeple. But you are just a midwit with an eating disorder. There is nothing special about you. Vegans literally depend on big pharma to survive. Omnivores can at least in theory grow their own food. They are free, you are not.

>>21650598
Define pain.

>>21650697
>nothing special about you
You would be the one talking about people being special.
Did you take it personally and get offended when I called people slaves? Why does that targetless descriptor hit you?

>>21646400 (OP)
buy organic meat
except for chicken, they don't live long enough to taste any different lol

>>21650598
Wrong.

>>21650699
sensory and emotional signal of tissue damage or distress.

>>21650895
Pasture raising birds definitely makes a difference in taste even with CC.

Animals don't have souls.
God created them for us to eat and have dominion over, it says so in Genesis 1:26.
Its of no consequence whatsoever what happens to an animal.
Just eat them and be merry.

>>21651007
Begone Christcuck

>>21651014
Christ is King.
Go worship your gay trees and animals in hell where you belong, heathen.

Where goes the line for you?
When the pigs get enough space to walk a few steps and turn around?
When they get to go outside?
When they are no longer killed for food?
>other?

>>21651007
Animals go to heaven and there will be more of them there than us

>>21650997
>Biochemical signaling: When a plant is damaged, it releases chemical signals to alert nearby plants of the danger, or to trigger its own defense mechanisms.
Uhoh!
Basically it "wants" to avoid pain and has a defensive reaction when it is inflicted upon it. Spending excessive energy to fend off what is hurting it.

>>21647850
underrated

>>21646410
>you can pay a premium
So only richfags get to eat healthy meat? I think its high time we implemented universal food stamps

>>21651056
Buy a freezer and a whole pig, cut and wrapped.

>>21646635
>How do I identify in the supermarket which meat isn't gonna give me depression is I think about it for too long?

>>21651030
Stovokor is like Valhala, it's not heaven and it's not real.
Sci-fi should be banned for filling impressionable minds with such nonsense.
Go to Church.

>>21651007
if that means sick torture for profit is okay you must have fallen for an act of Satan

>>21651109
Animals go to heaven.
I doubt you will.
Read the Bible

>>21646717
mad because low IQ

>>21646470
I felt this way until I saw a video of a bunch of male chicks being shredded. I couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks, not only is it depressing but it shows that our current system isn't even efficient enough to find a use for baby male chicks. I think needless suffering is not justified.
>Be factual and reasonable, do not give it to pointless empathy and puerile, senseless emotions
Empathy and emotion is not puerile, it's clear that you think that emotion and logic are opposites. Logic is guided by emotion, emotion and empathy gives logical decisionmaking value. To think that using emotion and empathy is 'puerile' is a stunted way of thinking.

>>21646402
Notice how the vegans ignore posts that expose the lies.

>>21650417
>>21650417
Humans , even ones that you dont share the same values with

>>21651320
Veganism is pride incarnate
It's a big "Fuck you!" the the circle of life and thus science as a whole

>>21651327
The women are fun to bang though.
Although they are not skinny like they used to be. Now they eat ultra processed crap and are flabby as fuck.

Honestly the biggest problem is that people are too disconnected to where their food comes from. Back when small livestock was raised in villages in cities, people were aware of the meat process, and the animals could roam around.

>>21650417
>deserve
By and large humans don't deserve shit. But life isn't about what is deserved or fair. It just happens
>https://youtu.be/03bOrvlAyeQ?si=Oksd5xKDSlUZtuAO

>>21646400 (OP)
What I like about systems like this is that allows for easy collection of waste.

>>21651310
We should find some way to use them as food.

>>21651310
You can't be vegan and proimmigration

>>21651344
Exactly, meat is necessary but there has to be a better use for male chickens besides just grinding them up. Male animals are gamier, I assume the reason for doing this is because gamey meat isn't liked much by Americans.

>>21651361
They also attack each other and hens

>>21651361
Isn't it the egg industry that grinds up male chicks?

>>21651365
You could prevent this by just slaughtering them as cockerel, they start acting aggressive when they are mature. You could also castrate them. Capon is very tasty.

>>21651370
Yes. Egg laying chickens aren't used for meat because they don't have large breasts like broilers do, which is a big selling point here.

>>21651327
>The circle of life is when you raise millions of animals in tiny cages, slaughter them in an industrialized slaughterhouse staffed with illegal immigrants, package and freeze the meat in tiny 1lb plastic packaging, and ship them across the country to be bought by bloated and red-skinned Americans at Walmart
Appeals to tradition and nature are pathetic when talking about animal ag, which is probably the single most satanic industry in the US.

>>21651395
Don't forget that the animal industry is responsible for 75% of emerging diseases in humans. It's the reason why horrific diseases like mad cow disease exists

>>21651395
Nature is tradition. You can't be pro-nature and pro-immigration

>>21646402
i'd kill my babies too if this were the world they were birthed into

>>21650997
>emotional signal
By your definition this crab is not in pain.

>>21651423
But people are already killing human babies. What's stopping you from killling more?

>>21650886
Tbh I don't even know why you went on this weird tangent. It fits with the air of superiority online vegans give themselves. You are not a good person for valuing some random chicken more than your fellow man. Makes you an asshole.

>>21651310
Male chicks that get shredded don't suffer though. It's a very, very fast death. They get killed so young, they can't know what pain is yet.

>no use for male chicks
No use for male chicks of egg laying broods. There are broods that we use for their meat. Even so, we use the bodies of the shredded male chicks as by-product.

>>21651438
>valuing some random chicken
You miss read my post probably from being tired or angry
It is ALWAYS okay to take a break and leave the internet. There is nothing you can say that someone else can't
This is me >>21650516
Not everyone that responds to you disagrees with you you dumb nigger
I disagree with vegans. They are commies and hate humanity

>>21651344
They're mainly turned into pet food. Any time you see "Chicken meal" in an ingredient list it's mostly whole shredded baby roosters.

>>21651438
Plus, vegans can't insult themselves. Their ego won't allow it, because that would mean that they could be wrong about something.
When I said "people are slaves" I never specified me or you. Doesn't matter how "smart" I or anyone else is, we are all still only human and thus inherently flawed

>>21651453
You are not as smart as you think you are.

>>21651495
At least I'm not vegan

>>21646470
> Livestock are a resource not your pets
It boggles my mind that grown men and women cannot understand this.

>>21651536
So are plants. You still give them optimal room and nourishment for proper and health. Unless you grow shit crops like you grow shit livestock

>>21651423
If you don't use those things you basically have to kill the bad moms.

>>21651611
This mean for
>>21651320

>>21646400 (OP)
Yoy are not a true vegan unless yoy surrender over half your paycheck to guilt trip organizations

>>21646400 (OP)
being anti meat is like being anti-racist. people who want to eat meat are trying to trick you into giving up meat so you and your children will groww up to be weak and stunted.

simarily, people who actively practice nepotism and base their life's decisions around racism want you to 'judge everyone as individuals' so their team can zerg rush your dumb ass in a 1v10 and thus succeed at life a lot easier.

if every single american stops eatting meat, those pigs will still be farmed in their tiny little personal prisons. the meat will just be shipped to bejing instead of new york.

>>21651109

Where’s the difference between sci-if and church?

>>21646400 (OP)
Fuck you. It's 4am here and this video made my hungry

>>21646470
>just consume bro dont think so hard why think when you can consume?

>>21652170
Eternal damnation.

>>21651109
I'd rather go to Stovokor or Valhalla than Heaven.

>>21651151
I'm not mad. Poor farming practices give me work. Tax payer funded a lot of the time. Thank you for the money

>>21652467
Enjoy an eternity of sharing vegan buffet with stray dogs, feral pigs, and barbarians.

Heaven is flavor country. You like red meat? Infinity Passover dinners serving succulent lamb is on the menu in Heaven.

>>21652170
The difference is christcucks can you it as an excuse to ignore it instead of think or challenge their own thoughts.

The retard's quote says nothing about animals going to heaven or not. He is probably some flavour of spic

>>21646402
lot more people know how shit Pigs are at being mothers after Clarkson's Farm, think one of the Sows killed like 60% or more of her litter that way

>>21646470
this guy gets it

>>21646400 (OP)
When I eat them they're already dead.

>>21646484
Why don't you empathize with your friends, family, and neighbors instead of a fucking pig

>>21646400 (OP)
Unironically subscribed his channel.